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Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Rebecca Hagelin :: Townhall.com Columnist
Parents Should Raise the Bar for Their Kids
by Rebecca Hagelin
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Spring break is in full swing for many college students across the country. And believe me, when I say "full swing," I mean full-rockin', rollin' party-hearty swinging!

But given that nearly all of these students’ lifestyles are still funded by their parents, and that nearly all are still under the legal drinking age, it makes me wonder: What are their parents thinking?

As a mom of two college men I actually find it fairly easy to boldly proclaim: "If you are livin' on my dime, then you are livin' by my rules."

My rules for them as adults are actually filled with freedom, coupled with the principle of "self government." They were raised with this consistent theme, and they understand that my husband and I practice the "abuse and lose" approach. (I.e., they have both freedom and our full support as long as they follow basic rules that provide for their safety, moral development, and future.)

Of course, I can hear the naysayers now: "But they’re adults. You can't tell adult children what to do." To this I simply answer, "BALONEY!"

I am a much-older adult, and I understand that an employer can impose certain codes and expectations for my behavior on me. That's the deal in life -- you work for someone, you have to play by their rules. (Of course I know they can't trample your basic rights, deny civil liberties, etc. So don't go there. You know what I'm talking about.)

The young college men in my life -- of whom I am so very proud and blessed to be called their "mom" -- also know that my husband and I are fully committed to them as individuals and will provide plenty of opportunities for good, safe fun.

Let's get back to Spring Break as an example. Instead of shrugging our shoulders and letting them go off to some distant beach where mayhem, alcohol and "Girls Gone Wild" abound, I booked a house at our favorite beach, which is located on a barrier island on Florida's Gulf Coast. With no bridge (you have to get here by boat) and no bars, this break is a lot safer and a lot more meaningful than what many are experiencing.

One of my dear friends has a house nearby and her daughter, also on Spring Break, has brought about nine of her "best friends" too. So, there's plenty of social activity, fun and friendship without the nonsense. The kids go back and forth between our houses, so my friend and I both get to spend time with them and listen to their entertaining -- and interesting -- chatter.

Last night the gang was at my friend's house and the main topic of conversation proved an-eye-opening, mind-numbing experience for her.

Most of the girls on this trip are freshmen, and somehow the conversation led to a shared humiliating experience now common at most college campuses: the mandatory co-ed, sex-ed course they all attended during their first few weeks on campus. They described the graphic nature of the class, and how embarrassed and outraged they were when they were shown how to put a condom on a banana.

But then it got worse -- they were all encouraged to do the condom/banana exercise, too. The girls spoke of how a couple of their fellow students seemed to take great pride at their skill in demonstrating what seemed an all-too-familiar maneuver. However, my young friends said they were mortified and left the course feeling "trashy" and belittled by administration officials who expect them to all behave like wild animals in heat. "They seemed to be encouraging us to be sexually active," one member of the volley ball team said. "I was insulted and offended by the entire experience."

This particular young co-ed had gone to a private Christian high school, so she had managed to escape the low expectations that many educators bring to today's youth. She and her mom weren’t aware that in today's public schools, millions of boys and girls are now, indeed, treated as if they are going to be sex-crazed creatures and, therefore, are actually encouraged to engage in risky behavior.

Face it: When an adult in authority stands in front of the classroom and directs graphic discussions of sex in every form, forces boys and girls to sit by each other throughout the humiliating lectures, and then further violates the child's natural tendencies to be private or modest, then you end up with kids who follow what they’ve been taught. On the other hand, when kids are treated with dignity, taught the value of abstinence, and how to avoid placing themselves in compromising situations in the first place, the research shows that more of them do, indeed, respond by adopting a lifestyle of self-control and more responsible behavior than those drowning in "sex ed". Also critical to the delayed on-set of sexual activity is parental involvement. I can not overstate the influence that loving, connected parents have on their teens and young adult children. You'll find loads of data and research on both points at www.abstinenceclearninghouse.com and www.familyfacts.org

Which, once again, brings me back to the plethora of wild Spring Break "pah-tays" going on around the country as you read this. I wonder: if more public junior high and high schools joined hands with more parents in teaching abstinence education, the concepts of self-worth and basic morality, wouldn’t our nation's kids have a higher view of themselves and rise to meet the expectations?

And if colleges and parents expected better of our kids, wouldn’t more of them choose the higher ground? If more parents took the effort to provide safer -- but still "way fun" -- supervised beach trips and other options for college kids, would more of them opt for something other than the drunken orgies that many Spring Break trips have become? In short, are older adults getting exactly the type of behavior from young adults that we expect?

Granted, my personal "focus group" is small. But the data, my experience, and the e-mails I receive from thousands of people tell me this: Young adults are still malleable, still looking for direction, and still crave to rise above the status quo. But they need help and encouragement. They need to be told that they can be self-controlled people of strong character, and they need to be provided with opportunities to thrive, have fun, and become men and women they can be proud of.

Young adults rise or fall to the expectation levels set for them. Will you help raise the bar?

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Rebecca Hagelin is a public speaker on the family and culture and the author of the new best seller, 30 Ways in 30 Days to Save Your Family.
 
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Pablo the activist...
Pablo, what you’re telling us is that since one’s parents were too dumb to teach their children about the birds and the bees the government should do it for them? This is the liberal answer to justify every one of their social programs. Indoctrination has paid off it would seem.

We can both produce evidence supporting our respective views on this topic. Ours was authored by people of faith who were inspired by God, yours from members of the Communist Party. Look it up.

If your grandparents faith was passed down to you, open your Bible to Romans Chapter 1, and pay particular attention to verses 18 through 32. If not, read “Out of the Night” and talk to me again.

-swathdiver

to the Swathdriver & Verbivore
Swathdiver --- you are the useful idiot (your words) of the conservative correctness crowd!

You say "it's the job of the parents to teach their kids about sex".. Well, the reality is that some parents teach their kids NOTHING about sex. If they aren't getting at home, then they should get it somewhere -- learning it @ school is BETTER THAN NOTHING!

My grandma was a teen during the WW2 era! There was no sex-ed, and her parents didn't teach their children about sex. Her parents were conservative Catholics. Guess how old my grandma was when she 1st got pregnant. FOURTEEN! Remember, this happened BEFORE Playboy came! this happened BEFORE Elvis became famous!

so Swathdriver --- don't give me this "it's all the 60's fault that girls get pregnant early". The 60's was decades after my grandma had her early pregnancy!

If she learned about condoms, and practiced with a banana, she might've gotten her 1st pregnancy LATER!

To Verbivore -- Those young ADULT girls should get with the program and be grateful to learn IMPORTANT LIFE SKILLS! Yeah, it may be a little embarrassing, but learning life skills, while sometimes embarrassing, is something they'll eventually be grateful for!

wrong pablo
the girls were the ones complaining about it. They were the ones who felt mortified, degraded, and compromised. Are you suggesting the problem lies with them? That's a shame. It would seem that you too have little regard for your fellow man. This is not a skill one "needs" to learn with a banana. Nor can it legitimately be called "education" funded by my tax dollars.

Dear EOF
What is it about the terms "decency", "responsibility", "citizenship" and "CHILDREN" that you and your fellow degenerates can't seem to comprehend? Kids are not animals unless you make them that way. For liberals' purposes, that's to be desired. Others of us view this quite differently. If the laws of this country were enforced as they should be, kids would grow up in a safer environment and become more self-reliant and morally straight citizens in adulthood. They deserve to be elevated to high standards, not encouraged to wallow in the mud like pigs.

Dear Transplanted
It's only the same depraved talking points that you would normally expect from them!

Hagelin's false assertion
"On the other hand, when kids are treated with dignity, taught the value of abstinence, and how to avoid placing themselves in compromising situations in the first place, the research shows that more of them do, indeed, respond by adopting a lifestyle of self-control and more responsible behavior than those drowning in "sex ed"."

This is not confirmed by the best evidence on
comparisons between sex ed and abstinence ed.

reply to transplanted
"How comfortable are you with the comments of renny and everyonesfacts?
Typical Planned Parenthood/sex educator hypes. They frame their dialogue in a “caring” pseudo intellectual "poor children need to know" air - as if no child coming to school has any parental influence in their upbringing."

Ummm, 1) Renny and I did not agree on much so
I would question where you see the connection
between are posts.

2) It was not me who used evidence to show
that the children should know but Mrs.
Hagelin's example of the girls being embarassed
and we assume ignorant since she does not
mention anything to the contrary.
.

Pablo...
Ever heard of the Communist term, "Useful Idiot"? It refers to those people who unwittingly help further Communist goals of subversion and the destruction of the society they are operating in. You're doing their work.

It's the job of parents and the adult students own personal responsibility to educate themselves about sex, not the government's. If you look back in history, the rise in abortions, STDs, domestic violence, and the destruction of the family unit can be traced back to the government promoting sex before marriage under the guise of "sex education".

Might I suggest the book, "Out of the Night" by Jan Valtin? Read it and then let me know your thoughts. I am swathdiver@yahoo.com.



mutually safe sexual behavior
"good article
comment on comment #28
quoting me quoting Jack:
"mutual safe sexual
behavior....what kind of statement is that?"
Sharesome:
"Sex outside of marriage isn't safe."

Yes and no. Depends upon who is involved and
what they are doing in and out of the
respective relationships.

Marriage is no guarantee of safety or sex
leading to desired outcomes - again reference
Sanger's testimony on the tenement wives

Rebecca Is Totally Correct
There are plenty of kids who are disgusted by our sexualized culture. And, the unfortunate kids, especially girls, who are trapped in it and act out in undesirable ways need our support - not insults. All of these kids are future Moms and Dads. We need them to make a great country. They and us are all victims of The Kinsey Syndrome. That happens to be a title of an outstanding, informative DVD made by Judith Reisman. Everyone needs to see this DVD. Sex ed in schools is huge, disgraceful waste of taxpayer money. It should be abolished immediately.

conservative correctness run amok!
Having students learn to put a condom on a banana isn't "encouraging promiscuity". Saying that it is is as STUPID as saying "martial arts classes encourages students to be violent bullies" or "gun safety classes encourages students to be psychopath killers"!

Learning to put on a condom, gun safety, etc are IMPORTANT life skills! It's not encouraging kids to be "sluts" or "killers", it's telling them what to do if you're in this situation! It's Life Skills 101!

It isn't sex-ed or TV that encourages promiscuity, it is NATURE that encourages promiscuity! If God didn't want 18-22 year olds to have sex, God would've delayed puberty until the age of 30!

Rebbecca Hegalin's article is just another example of Conservative Correctness Run Amok!

websmith and avg citizen
How comfortable are you with the comments of renny and everyonesfacts?

Typical Planned Parenthood/sex educator hypes. They frame their dialogue in a “caring” pseudo intellectual "poor children need to know" air - as if no child coming to school has any parental influence in their upbringing.

1Contnder exposed Chester Pierce's/public education's philosophy. That's where sex educators are coming from; breaking down traditional mores and creating "international children."

Parents Take Action
Agree with the higher bar for both parents and children. More importantly, parents need to push back against the public schools when they see such nonsense. They must review the textbooks being used and see that more and more they are being filled with socialist drivel and immoral values, as well as down right inaccurate statements. Get together with some other parents, review some text books, then go to the School Board meetings and lodge protests and calls for actions. We get the government we elect, we get the schools we allow. Its our tax dollars, we DO have a say.

Dear Websmith
You touch on the heart of the issue. We, as "late blooming adults" ourselves, allowed things to come to this via our own negligence. That careless "go with the flow" attitude has had a devastating consequence to our children and grandchildren.

It's not enough that parents (like Mrs. Hagelin) take matters in hand in their own families. The public schools and colleges (supported by our tax dollars) and the popular culture (much of which we likewise support!) must be brought under control. Kids are being turned into "sexual beings" (and at ever younger ages) through these mediums and beyond the control of individual parents... no matter how dedicated.

We need to unite, take charge of those schools away from corrupters and re-impose the National Review Board over Hollywood and the TV industries. Also: We might press on the sponsors of these "Spring Break" orgies their responsibility for what they encourage for profit. What, indeed, is the moral distinction between the "educators", the hotel owners and the culture czars... and that of a wharfside "solicitor"? And this has originated in the celebration of Jesus' resurrection... now no longer Easter Recess, but "Spring Break".

Parents Need to Raise their Own Bar
Kids are not responsible. Adults are responsible for teaching kids responsibility.

Adults are responsible for the educational system and media deluge that their kids are exposed to. It's easy to say raise the bar for kids when the world around them that is controlled by adults doesn't support it.

good article
comment on comment #28 mutual safe sexual behavior....what kind of statement is that?
Sex outside of marriage isn't safe.

Renny's good questions II
"It will be more demeaning in the future when people have entirely forgotten what the Lenni Lenape were or what *squaw* meant. They are effectively removing all references to native Ams. in the name of *offense.*"

Well, squaw has several meanings and one is
definitely offensive. ALL references like
the name of the state, MA? Not gonna
happen.

"Students should be able to opt out of these propaganda excursions in colleges. Just say, *NO!*"

I agree, as I said the word "mandatory" is
methinks misused.

Renny's good questions
It would seem it is not the left or right
but public safety that makes colleges choose
to have these. Often they come out of a
recommendation from health services

I agree this should be voluntary. And let me
cast doubt on the word "mandatory" in college.

The culture war over the sex revolution might
be related, but is beside the point.

"The left doesn't want self control (repression) or modesty (real self esteem) as they are not as easily subject to brainwashing and intimidation as the true believers."

Self-control and repression are not the same
thing and neither are modesty and self-esteem.
I'm not sure which college presidents he is
talking about who are pro-porn, pro-drug, and
pro-sex. Naming one would help his argument.

"How about, why can't we have a convocation at a graduation without some atheist being offended and demanding the removal or religion from all pub. occasions?"

I don't know, but isn't the bigger point that
the convocation still goes on and the atheist is
offended (i.e. aren't you making the
point the sex ed. class should still go on
and the small # of future abstainers be offended)

"Why can't a school that has had a mascot called the Brave have to change its 60-yr-old image because of a single complaint from some org. located half-way across the country because that group thinks it *demeans* Indians?"

It doesn't have to. We have schools called
the Indians. They can change though.


Love
Love the vacation idea! My wife and I were older parents and never felt so proud when our daughter came home on break and told us her College friends called her a nun. Education on personal matters should start and end at your own door step.

Peers Group Pressure Taught
http://thenma.org/blogs//index.php/libertyforusa/2009/03/08 /parents-don-t-let-your-children-grow-up-

Our children have everything we teach them about morals, personal responsibility, and
individual personal gain undermined by a deliberate system engineered to do so.

We are seeing the results.

Jack has it right
"If that girl who was too embarassed to learn about condoms and safe sexual behavior and feels it's encouraging them to be sexual, that sounds less embarrassed and more paranoid."

As most in the abstinence-only camp know
abstinence-only education has not produced
the results desired because the kids don't toe
the line. I would be against the talk
mentioned if it was promoting sex, but if it
is informational - here is what we know and
here's is how you do it (on a banana). It is
probably good for the kids.

"Why is it that in order to be a good Christian one has to be completely disgusted by the notion of mutual safe sexual behavior?"

Good question, one doesn't.

"It's older than religion itself! It's moronic to say that teaching safer sexual behavior sends the wrong message because it's singling just one thing out that just happens to make certain people uncomfortable."

Well, for most Protestants you're correct. Of
course for strictly adherent married Catholics
the only choice is natural birth control.

"Should society cater to those peoples' squeemishness? Maybe in a dictatorship, but not a free society."

Right, birth control crusader Margaret Sanger
(yes I know about the eugenics) commented on
the ignorance of women who came into her
clinics. So imho it was good for the college
students to see how it is done - or were they
embarassed because - duh - we already know this
stuff

Why is it necessary that the left force
everyone to endure its concept of *sex. rev.*--invented in the 60s--to the great detriment of entire black communities (70% illegitimacy), raging veneral diseases throughout the world that will cause future infertility and physical/emotional distress, damaged newborns--they all cause harm during birth if not diagnosed and treated--and that these *orientations* cannot be limited to students who want to participate?

The left knows that by loosing pornography and holding college *Sex Weeks,* and allowing under-aged students to drink and drug into oblivion, that they are really gaining control of these young persons.

The left doesn't want self control (repression) or modesty (real self esteem) as they are not as easily subject to brainwashing and intimidation as the true believers.

But young people should tell their parents of their experiences. Near me last year was a univ. administering the same indoctrination and touting anal sex as a birth control (have they already forgotten AIDS?), but a young woman told her lawyer father, so that the pres. of the univ. was *shocked, shocked* that gay porno was being shown in TA's rooms as part of *teaching* safe sex. The *program* is now done.

As to cons. being uncomfortable?

How about, why can't we have a convocation at a graduation without some atheist being offended and demanding the removal or religion from all pub. occasions?

Why can't a school that has had a mascot called the Brave have to change its 60-yr-old image because of a single complaint from some org. located half-way across the country because that group thinks it *demeans* Indians? It will be more demeaning in the future when people have entirely forgotten what the Lenni Lenape were or what *squaw* meant. They are effectively removing all references to native Ams. in the name of *offense.*

Students should be able to opt out of these propaganda excursions in colleges. Just say, *NO!*

Spring break
When I was in college, spring break was a time to go home and work on the farm. When did it become this uninhibited "party time"?

WHy
is it so important that conservative children be protected from things that make them "uncomfortable"? These people are 18 years old. They can select the President. They can join the army and shoot people. But an conversation about sex is just too hard for them?

I have two college grads, a law school grad, one in school now and one starting in the Fall. I told them all that part of the process is figuring out the culture around them and figuring out how to function best within it. Be productive. Don't be stupid.

So far so good.

Mary,
Its not about rich or poor, its about parental obligation towards their ADULT children.

Some believe that parents are obligated to provide vacation "fun" for the 18-21yo ADULTS who are going to college on their dime. Hagelin presented her article as an either-or proposition -- either go with the culture and spend the money on sex, drugs, and alcohol or spend the money on some alternative.

Others however, believe that when those 18-21yo ADULTS are home from school that they should be contributing rather than just just consuming.

That's the exact opposite of socialism.

My Story
I moved out of my parents house when I turned 18 and made it on my own. I have a good friendship with my parents, I just couldn't stand the thought of being dependent on someone else while I considered myself an adult. I worked full time and went to school at night. I saved up a lot of money working hard and now I'm just going to school full time, looking to graduate in a year. Under my standards of work ethics, none of this has been hard.

Those that don't live off others dime can usually govern themselves. Until then, welfare recipients off all kinds should be treated like children. Down with these immoral degenerates that are the closing of the American mind. Young people were the only age group ignorant enough to overwhelmingly vote for Obama, they probably need a good spanking.

Public Education is a STATE right!
If a State wishes to have Public Schools, they have the right to do so. Upon forfeiture of that right, it falls to the LOCAL Community to decide to have Public Schools.

The problem with Public Education is not the fact that public schools exist but the fact that the Federal Government is unconstitutionally involved and that the State Government is usually over-involved.

Depends on when it is

I spent my 18th birthday, and my Spring Break, on a troopship in the harbor at Singapore. There were a thousand sunken ships in the harbor, and we didn't see even one building that was standing, on shore.

Now that's an exciting vacation.

===========

A story completely off the subject. We have heard the story of the preacher who was shot while speaking in his church, this past weekend. Well my Father was a minister and often spent time helping other ministers, especially one in what was then called Bloody Breathitt County, Kentucky.

One time, about 75 years ago, while my Dad was preaching, a window was pushed open from the outside, a long gun was stuck through the window and leveled towards someone sitting there. The pastor of the church, a very well known man in the area, quickly took his chair and sat between the gunner and the target.

The gun was withdrawn, the window was closed, and the sermon continued.


Florida resident
Public porno and excessive drinking may be the pinnacle of post-modern American young adult experience, but just because it's expected doesn't make it necessary. The ancient Israelites were given lists of behavior-boundaries as a marker of their unique status. More recently, Jesus Christ gave the church behavior-boundaries that distinguish it from the larger culture. He didn't insist that those boundaries were to be applied outside the church. If modern America wants to be known for its flagrant and blatant hedonism, OK, but there is a price to pay, and a better way available for those who want it. "Squeamish" and "prudish" kids well know this even if they can't quite articulate their beliefs: Adults unite, set the bar high for them. It's in their and our best interest that we do so. Leave the amoral behavior to the amoral.

Spring Breaks?
What's with this business of spring breaks? I made it through 16 years of schooling without ever having such a thing, unless you count a long Easter weekend. Would not the students be better served to stay on campus and learn a little bit? Or is this just another way for the "teachers" to get time off?

As for setting the bar: I remember reading of an incident in which a parent complained that the material was over her son's head. Replied the teacher: Madam, I'm aiming the material where your son's head is supposed to be.

That works for both academic and moral teaching.

Jack in VA
Since when do partying and drinking equal good decisions. My sons are not big drinkers, but they have a good time and are still capable of making good, responsible decisions.

I doubt the young ladies were embarrassed to learn about condoms. The problem was the co-ed approach to it. Back in the Dark Ages when I was in school, the education was sex-segregated. Kids are more likely to ask questions if they are with same sex rather than coed. That's just common sense.

No better way to raise the bar
Get rid of public education, in as much as it is the greatest tribute to the evils of Socialism/Communism! Anti God with all that goes with it!

The Founding Fathers could not stomack the fact that America ever took away the parents' God-given right and obligation to send their children to the schools of theire choice without being punished with what amounts to double taxation.

Yes, what is tuition plus mandated taxes to be paid, other than punishing of all parents, even Christians parents in this nation under God? Yes, who wish their Children to be raised as Christians and sending their children to Christian Schools!


Rasing the bar
Raising the bar is something that should definitely be done, although, perhaps it should be raising the bar FOR PARENTS.

Few high school and college kids could personally afford spring breaks in, say, Aruba.

Parents are responsible for their children. Part of that responsibility is teaching them "right and wrong", how to be responsible for yourself, common decency, and the list goes on.

Spring breaks would be better spent with parents and children having a holiday together, or the children catching up on the family chores to-do list. The kids could even sleep late and just hang out.

This whole issue may be moot anyway. With the economy in shambles, I cannot see a lot of parents being able to spend several thousand dollars for a lavish week in the sun for themselves, much less their kiddos.

Party animals?!
I'm also glad that someone decided to speak out on this issue. I've never been a party person, but I have to admit to wanting to go to spring break to see what it was all about. I'm glad I've never gone. My parents played THE role in keeping me abstinent even while my schools were encouraging promiscuity by claiming "well, they're gonna do it anyway, might as well teach them how to be safe."

I think by staying family-oriented kids more readily hang onto their values. When it's time for them to go off on their own (to college, to start families of their own), they maintain those morals.

1Contender: It's very sad and scary to know that so many are out there plotting our demise and presenting it as something we all need.

I remember in college having to attend a sex-ed course in my dorm. Only 3 of us were uncomfortable with putting a condom over the wooden "member" (or participating at all). Even though we had to be there, thankfully we weren't forced to participate in the activities. It's a crying shame that this has become the norm in schools.

Mother of 4
If Ms. Hagelin and her husband can afford nice things and nice trips for their family, why shouldn't they take them? Because you grew up poor?

And since when are family vacations not meaningful? The boys will have the rest of their lives to work, there's no problem with having a little fun.

Get off your socialist high horse and don't resent others' successes in life.

College kids are just that KIDS
This is unbelievable that any parent would want their KIDS to experience what we see goes on during spring break. Whether we have boys or girls it is insane to PAY for or ALLOW kids to attend or participate in spring break debauchery. How can people even think or picture their precious children who were only babies 18, 19 and 20 years ago behaving in such a manner. It's not a right of passage, they are still forming who they will become and who would willingly want to besmirch themselves with rabid,unfulfilling,mind numbing,pointless,demeaning behavior. How do they escape what they have done to themselves or others? How do they deal with what they may have contracted from someone else?They are kids,just out of high school,they still rely heavily on us for our opinion, wisdom, decisions. That is not to say we make all their choices and decisions for them but we certainly can limit them as least financially. Funny my kids would never ask me for money to go to some wild drunken, sex-laden, extended weeklong break and think I would ever approve or fund it. What on earth are parents teaching their kids, their college kids? Notice they are not called college adults.

My Parents' Version,
Since when are parents obligated to provide "fun" for college age adults home on break?

Except for the year that I took an intensive, one-week, 2-credit class and thus didn't come home, I was expected to be useful while I was around -- giving the house its spring cleaning, spending the week going to work with my mother to clear up some backlogged paperwork from her department's bought with a bad winter flu season (I made $100 -- minimum wage for a 40-hour week at the time), helping my dad cut and split wood, ... .

The vast majority of my peers did the same sort of things except for the son of a Baltimore lawyer who got brief, informal, theater internship.

The idea of spending one, single, parental dime on either the wild spring break of the Florida/Mexico trips or the tamer version Hagelin provided was beyond contemplation for people of my blue-collar, mill-town background.

In this economic situation college age adults should spend their spring break being an asset to their families, not a liability. In the south they could get the spring garden crops in. Further north they could give the house a good cleaning or go through the attic storage boxes to see what's useful and what's garage sale fodder. Anywhere, a week spent on those little, overlooked handyman jobs like tightening screws and patching small cracks would be worthwhile for everyone.

Do something meaningful with your time -- its good training for the real world.

Excellent !
I am so glad someone is speaking out on this. Parents don't even seem to care that their daughters are gladly allowing themselves to be used like a dirty toilet. But the feminists are proud of this because now girls can have casual meaningless sex just like they claimed men do. I thank God that I am a Christian and that my children are being raised in a Godly way in our home school. And you know what? My daughter is always dressed nicely - appropriately...I find it interesting that when we are at the store or the mall and other girls her age (9) see her or are standing next to us they begin to fidget uncomfortably. They have their whole bodies on display because they are constantly bombarded that is the way to get noticed - by dressing in less than a hooker. And when they see a nicely dressed young girl - right next to them - it is painfully obvious to them that they are indeed dressing that way and it clearly makes them feel whorish and cheap. We've had some young girls attend church dressed in such a way. You keep your Godly standards while being compassionate towards them and every time you see them, within one or 2 visits, begin to raise their own standards. At school, these girls are all dressed alike - so when they come to church they see, by comparison, how utterly degrading their attire is and they change it on their own. I'm glad we listened to our parents and followed their example so we didn't have to learn any life cheapening lessons. It's sad that too many feel these kind of life lessons (which they call them out of embarrassment) are somehow "necessary" and to be applauded.

Ha!
That's one good thing about going to a nerdy engineering college that is 80% socially inept boys and 20% socially inept girls - we didn't have to sit through any stupid sex ed lectures! We sure as heck didn't have to put condoms on produce. The most embarrassing thing we ever had to do was dig dirt out of the yard and weigh it!

AudiR10
Talk about completely missing the point. The college kids being funded by their doltish parents to do the "Girls Gone Wild" thing during spring break are the kids we are talking about. It sounds like you had a higher calling for yourself and took it upon yourself to do what you did during your summer breaks. Young people like you don't typically get drunk and debase themselves with strangers during spring break. The point of the article is that for the most part, in our society today, young people still really need adult guidance to make better choices, especially when it comes to situations like spring break. I don't think that the author's sons were "under their parents' thumbs" because they were given an opportunity to interact with members of the opposite sex in a safe, mature environment. Nothing wrong with it all.

Actually
I would have been mortified had my fine, upstanding parents insisted that I spend my college break under their watchful eye and their thumb, and with my sisters instead of with my friends.

There are plenty of good activities we could sign up for, including Habitat type rebuilds and service projects. I worked with Save the Children one year in Appalachia, and on an archaeological dig another. But by and large I chose to find part time work to help pay for my education. I ended up with a round the world cruise in my senior year, which was far better than any Spring Break at Daytona. After graduation I had a few wild years as I learned why my parents had taught me that some things were bad for me; but I never would have learned those lessons if I had spent my entire college years under the thumb of my parents.

Raising the Bar
Wow, I thought I was alone in trying to bring up my children this way. Thank you for renewing my faith in humanity. My husband and I have two young girls and we are noticing the "Girls Gone Wild" behavior has trickled down to the middle school. My 11 year old daughter acts like an 11 year old amid girls who are 11 and 12 going on 25. Their parents are aware of their behavior and some seem even proud of it because their daughters are "popular." I loved your Spring Break idea for your sons and your friend's daughters. We parents need to hear more ideas like these and read more articles like yours. Thank you so much!

Great Subject-much needed timing
Count me in as well...Also go to the Great American Tea Party for info to send tea bags wo the President also.

Had been a Production Coordinator for Regnery Gateway back in the 80's (during RR) and as the mom to teens in Catholic High School.

I fully agree that we need to raise the bar to counteract the permissive environment we all now live in.

Life is like high school, it is all about what you choose to partake in, that speaks loads about you as an individual.

Edna Eagle
Great idea. I love it. Count me in.

Red Envelope Project
I got an email from a friend the other day asking to participate in something -- to protest, peacefully, the President's stand on abortion. Or Voluntary Population Planning, as he puts it.

I believe we should respect the Office of President, But I don’t think that means we should sit idly by while things happen we don’t approve of.

So someone had a great idea of the RED ENVELOPE PROJECT. I hadn’t ever heard of it before, but I really like the idea. A simple, peaceful way to send a message.

Here is the email I received:

Get red envelopes or postcards and mail them on March 31st to the White House
When: March 31st, 2009
Get a red envelope. You can buy them at Kinkos, or at party supply stores.

On the front, address it to
President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington , D.C. 20500.

On the back, write the following message:

“This envelope represents one child who died because of an abortion. It is empty because the life that was taken is now unable to be a part of our world.”

Oooops - correction
Takes me back to 1975-76 when

Should read: ...back to 1995-96 when...

Way to go
Good read. Takes me back to 1975-76 when we mounted our first real efforts to get an abstinence until marriage law in our State. We succeeded but our former governor was then State Attorney Gemeral and he managed to weaken it by his interpretation so much that schools continued to do pretty much as they pleased. Some schools were doing the banana/condom thing with high school freshmen. Our current Governor was in the State Senate then and fought us vociferously.

They were ardent admkirers of such "educrats" as Dr. Chester Pierce of Harvard School of Education who trained teachers working in our schools today. At a gathering of thousands of young teachers he made this statement:

“Every child in America who enters school at the age of five is mentally ill, because he comes to school with an allegiance toward our elected officials, toward our founding fathers, toward our institutions, toward the preservation of this form of government that we have. Patriotism, nationalism, and sovereignty, all that proves that children are sick because a truly well individual is one who has rejected all of those things, and is truly the international child of the future. “

He further admonished them that it was their calling and duty to make these children well by creating the “international children of the future. “

That was thirty-sone years ago, and these public school teachers have well fulfilled their collectivists calling and the NEA’s imposed duty. That is substantiated by the droves of young people who flocked to the polls in November to vote for a Marxist/Socialist for President of the United States of America.

Living what they learn
"When an adult in authority stands in front of the classroom and directs graphic discussions of sex in every form, forces boys and girls to sit by each other throughout the humiliating lectures, and then further violates the child's natural tendencies to be private or modest, then you end up with kids who follow what they’ve been taught."

This is EXACTLY what my older son faced upon entering public middle school (until 7th grade he'd attended a private Christian school where the topic of sexuality was dealt with respectfully and in a single-gender environment). My request that he be permitted to spend the health class time devoted to sexuality writing a research paper in the library got me a mocking phone call from the health class teacher who was extremely dismissive of my concerns and insisted my son would be "better off" experiencing the co-ed sex instruction. No thank you. This same son is now a junior in college, and I could not be prouder of his exceptionally high moral standards (he sets the bar higher for himself than I ever would).

Bottom line: Kids really do live what they learn.
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