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Monday, August 11, 2008
Phyllis Schlafly :: Townhall.com Columnist
Who Will Protect Us Against Invasion?
by Phyllis Schlafly
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President George W. Bush, in China attending the Olympic Games, responded promptly to Russia's invasion of Georgia with the caveat that "territorial integrity must be respected." We're still waiting to hear the Bush administration's response to this month's invasion of Arizona's territorial integrity by the Mexican military.

More than 40 times this year, the Mexican military has crossed the U.S.-Mexico border. The Mexicans even held a U.S. border guard at gunpoint.

How long are we going to put up with Mexican impudence and federal neglect of duty? One of the most emphatic duties set forth in the U.S. Constitution is that the federal government "shall protect each of them (every State) against invasion."

Some pretend there is a "misunderstanding" about exactly where the border is. But border guards say there is a barbed-wire fence at the point where the Mexican military entered the United States.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., immediately pointed out that if the Bush administration had built the double fence Congress had ordered, the Mexican vehicles would not have been able to invade U.S. territory. The open-borders crowd claims that a fence is useless because people can easily climb it, but a Mexican army truck can't do that.

Nor can Mexican vans loaded with illegal drugs climb a fence. All the talk we hear about our "war on drugs" is totally hypocritical so long as no fence is built to keep out the drug-laden trucks.

It's not just Mexican military vehicles that are invading our space. Again this month we read about an SUV packed with illegal immigrants that evaded detection by our Border Patrol and then rolled over on a highway southeast of Phoenix, killing nine people and injuring the other 10 on board.

They were crammed into two bucket seats in front and three seats in the back of a speeding Chevrolet Suburban. A border patrol spokesman commented, "The smuggler doesn't care if their cargo lives or dies" because he's already been paid.

But we care about the law, about highway safety, and about the cost. Ten people with critical injuries, who had no right to be here, are now being treated in Arizona hospitals at U.S. taxpayer expense.

These latest Mexican invasions come on the heels of further depressing news about the mistreatment of border guards Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

When federal prosecutor Johnny Sutton embarked on his national public relations campaign to defend his prosecution of these border guards for allegedly shooting a professional drug smuggler in the rear end, Sutton's most impassioned argument was that Ramos and Compean obstructed justice by failing to report the incident. But on appeal the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeal overturned that part of Ramos and Compean's conviction, even though the court upheld the jury verdict and the 11- and 12-year prison sentences.

It's time to question not only President Bush but also the presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama. Will you pardon these two border guards who most Americans and 75 members of Congress believe are the targets of unfair prosecution under a law never intended to be used against border guards, an unfair trial in which the Bush-appointed judge withheld from the jury damaging information about drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, who was the key witness against the defendants, unfairly long sentences (years longer than the same judge gave the professional drug smuggler whom Ramos and Compean intercepted), and unfair prison treatment in which they were beaten by illegal-immigrant prisoners?

In another recent flouting of the law, the Bush administration quietly posted a notice late on Aug. 4 that it is extending from one to two years its plan to allow Mexican trucks to enter the United States and have free access to our highways and roads. Only the week before, the House of Representatives Transportation Committee voted to terminate the program.

There are few issues on which Congress has demonstrated its will so emphatically with a bipartisan vote as the matter of Mexican trucks on our roads. Both houses of Congress have voted overwhelmingly against the invasion by Mexican trucks which do not meet U.S. safety standards, driven by Mexican drivers who do not meet U.S. safety and language standards.

On May 15, 2007, the House of Representatives voted 411-3 against the entry of Mexican trucks, followed by a second voice vote on July 24. The Senate voted likewise, 75-23, Sept. 11, and this law was signed by President Bush on December 26, 2007.

When will the Bush administration stand up for the territorial integrity of the United States against foreign military vehicles, vans with illegal immigrants, truckloads of illegal drugs driven by professional drug dealers, and unsafe trucks and drivers that don't meet U.S. standards?

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They should shoot them or arrest them
Seriously, why is this tolerated?

I am sure we will get a flood of McShamnesty comments over this, but any American should be offended. This is not a Bush thing, a McCain thing, a Barr thing, or an Obama thing, it is an American thing.

Sorry, the US border is different
Our border is apparently situated on the lip of a worm hole where the laws of physics don't apply. It's one of those bizarre scientific oddities that occur but can't be explained. Like those areas in the South Pacific where compasses spin instead of point north/south. No matter what kind of wall we build, it will never be able to keep those magic Mexicans from walking right through it as if it isn't there.

Recommendation: let's build the same kind of walls that they put around the White House. Worth a try.

Pasadena "Don't Fence Me In" Phil
Phylis is right about defending the border. Note how she mentions the fence Phil, here is what your boy Bob Barr said:

BECK: Do you build the border fence?

BARR: No.

BECK: You got to explain that one. Why not?

BARR: First of all, I think it would be terribly costly. And whatever border fence you build, people are going to find a way to get around it, go under it, go over it, somehow.

I think it would look absolutely awful. And even though it`s a fence to keep people from coming in, as opposed to the Berlin wall, it gives the same impression. Not the impression I want to give the world about America.

BECK: I mean, what am I on "Curb Appeal" all of a sudden? It looks bad? All right, we'll put some flowers there.

http://americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/ELECTIONS/2008/B ARR-BOB/GlennBeck080514.htm

Here is what McCain said: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/68db8157-d301-4 e22-baf7-a70dd8416efa.htm It includes building a fence.

Great column--
Another excellent column by Phyllis. Like when will peso george stand up for the borders of the US, fully support the building of the fence, and expedite quick deportations of criminal illegals. Oh yes, and pardon Ramos and Compean?

Not illegals it is "HIV illegals"
I think the globalist want to reduce the population by 60-80% in the US. Why not infect the public with AIDS.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/national/us_acts_to_open_b ordersto_foreigners_with_hiv100.html

North American Union checkpoints (armed Mexican Troops in US is being set up in the United States (driving) 5 years ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMbY8u8c0oE

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Phil, try not to be such a hypocrite
Just admit it, anything for Obama!

Mexican troops used for US Checkpoints.
In the next 5 years there will be North American Union Police starting with Mexican police to serve as protectors of "US Checkpoints". Bush, McCain, and Cheney are planning to implement additional "United Nations troops" that serve as these human checkpoints for the NAFTA Superhighway (Trans Texas Corridor).

All cars in the next 5 years will be required to have Transponders built in them. The US government is going to first bring in Mexican troops and then other UN Peace Keeping Troops to prevent a tyranny uprising.

US Citizens are being taxed to have transponders in their vehicles in the next 5 years along with having a National ID Card. Radio Frequence Identification Chips in the next 5-10 years are being produced on all products that entering I-35 corridor in Texas. Walmart is in partnership with the United States government in this RFID container agreement.

This has all been documented. Bush, Cheney, and our government are so arrogant that they have openly stated to the Americans that they plan on doing this. Bush, Cheney, etc openly state this in in public because they think Americans are a bunch of sheep.

(You Tube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMbY8u8c0oE

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George W.
is either stubbornly stupid or stupidly stubborn or both. The net effect is the same; he does not take care to secure an area that would secure our country. His appointee, the cadaver they call Michael Chertoff, is no better. They spent millions for a 'virtual fence' that didn't work. Even had it worked, there were not enough Border Patrol Agents to assign to the areas where crossings were being made. George W. does not want this fence and he has made it impossible. He just needs to hang a sign on the White House fence that says "There will be no border fence and I don't give a damn what you think, America."

Bush got his rump over the dashboard for firing U.S. Attorneys but left Johnny Sutton in place. Johnny Sutton hid the information on the drug smuggling activities of Davilla, even that Davilla was highly placed in the drug smuggling operation. He hid the fact that Davilla continued to smuggle drugs between the incident with Ramos and Compean and their trial. Johnny Sutton should have been fired and disbarred. Bush would not do that as Sutton is doing just want Bush wanted. Bush is a disgrace.

At El Paso, Texas, alone, illegal immigrants from 174 nations have crossed. Remember the Syrian brothers caught last year planning the bombing of a military facility in North Carolina? They came in illegally across the southern border.

Have you seen the traps that have been set up on our side of the border to decapitate any Border Agent riding a four wheeler? Have you seen the rocks thrown and dropped on their vehicles? Have you seen them shot at? Now the Mexican Army makes forays across our border when it pleases with no consequences.

Best of all are the ads to get people to join the Border Patrol. Great working conditions, as described above, with the option of spending your retirement in prison. George W. Bush is a liar and a traitor to the American people.

Who will protect our country?
Not George W. or his cronies.

Give me a gun and I will go. Better yet, I will take my own gun. The first thing I will do is shot holes in the water station barrels. Neither will I leave an illegal who has to be treated for injuries. I had rather have $50 a head lettuce.

employment tv ad
I think about Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean every time I see the Border Patrol employment ad on TV.


N. American Union - REX 84
The elites run the US Government which puts sodium floride to make Americans passive.

The elites have their water purifed through a 14 step process. Oh yes there is no minerals or any compound chemicals. The water they drink is down to a science. They also get the best natural compound foods grown from the most purified soil.

The elites talk about a sub human population. It is called global feudalism. It was written 100 years ago that the United States was to be dumbed down through sodium flouride water, mercury shots, etc. They would then move to make sure schools became a source of collective information where no independent throught could occur.

What does this all mean? It means these elites control the schools, the food, the races, the issuance of currencies which can buy off politicans to architect a "North American Union Agenda".

The elites have bought the "congress off" by promoting US legislation by enacting "HIV illegal immigrants to come to the US.

The elites have bought Barack Obama and John McCain through our Federal Reserve System by the control of the issance of currency. Expect militarized UN force and mexican military in the next 5-10 years.

They have already building FEMA Camps and over 100,000 caskets. Don't believe this check out.

Oliver North part of Continuity of Government team that suspends the constitution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpXh7DCptaQ

Rex 84 - Martial Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gD25lwjAk&feature=related


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Who will protect us?
Not the current president, nor the other two candidates.

So how did we end up with two open border candidates anyway?

Which one did YOUR voting machine choose?

new zealand
friend of mine spent a lot of money to go hunting in new zealand. government constantly needs more and more money. think what american hunters would pay to be allowed to hunt in a border zone. mr "one we have been waiting for" proposes a civilian force as large as the military. i think he might be onto something there. an entire covey with one stone.

No one will, that's who.
No one will protect us because 99% of the political leaders have no problem at all with the invasion, in fact, many support it.

In the now tragic, 1986 Immigration Reform Act, there is a declaration that says something like - "it's not common knowledge that a great many people in Mexico and Central America feel they have a "right" to come to the US". The Act goes on to say (back in '86) that the US should severely cut back all forms of immigration in order to change this mindset.

This won't likely end until half of Mexico's population is here. There is no political will among our elites. Even when they say "we must secure the border", that does not mean stop the flow of foreign nationals across that border, they mean make the "flow" safe, routine and legal.

typo....should read - "now"
That should read: In the now tragic, 1986 Immigration Reform Act, there is a declaration that says something like - "it's NOW common knowledge that a great many people in Mexico and Central America feel they have a "right" to come to the US". The Act goes on to say (back in '86) that the US should severely cut back all forms of immigration in order to change this mindset.

When Will Bush Administration Stand Up
for American territorial integrity? Uh, duh, never? Bush does not take seriously any of his constitutional mandates and he's giving Mexico money to invade us. Isn't that by definition, a traitor? Bush is doing everything he can to destroy our sovreignty, our economy and our global supremacy. He has bankrupted us, violated the Constitution and he should be thrown out on his keister.

The Bush family is nothing more than a bunch of globalist traitors with drinking problems and a family history of lying. That family has done more to subvert American prosperity and liberty than any foreign invader. Bush Senior's close ties with China undermined American manufacturing power and Bush Junior is undermining American wages, jobs and the rule of law with his open borders policies and push for amnesty.

Let's all agree that a Bush presidential library NEVER gets built - build it in Mexico.

Sealing off the border
Don't expect either Republicans or Democrats to seal off the border, either to the north or south of us.
Bush met with the Canadian and Mexican leaders not too long ago. Bush's meeting only advanced that which Jimmy Carter had long held a belief in and that is Trilateralism. Dividing the world into three power structures. One exists to this day as we have come to know as the Europeon Union. I suspect that another is not too far off on the horizon. The Americas Union.
If we looked at the situation concerning illegal immigration, it should wake us all up to the coming Americas Confederation.

No help.
No one currently running for office will protect the border. Oh, they'll talk - but god forbid they'd actually put a program on the table to do it. Obama doesn't pretend, whereas McCain likes to have it both ways. He says he'll protect the border - but hasn't done a single thing to demonstrate any follow up. Does he have a plan that he'll present to the American people? How about a budget? How about offering to pardon the border guards? No. Just words. And his 25 year track record runs entirely counter to those words.

In the end, it probably doesn't matter any more. We've already reached the tipping point. Bush and McCain had the last 8 years to take some form of definitive action - but neither chose to do so. They did offer amnesty twice without a concurrent bill to protect the border. That we know.

Now, they, and the GOP elite have conclduded that they must have hispanic votes. Currently, hispanics have 14% of the population. Census predicts that this population, even if we don't include amnesty for the illegals currently here, and actually protect the borders and enforce immigration laws, will grow to 25% in 30 years. In a number of states, such as California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada etc., they will constitute over 50% of the population. This growth is fed by a combination of birth rates and chain migration, whereby those having citizenship can sponsor in relatives. And, I might add, one more year after many others of refusing to control the border.

Tandcredo Would Have Protected U.S.
Bush, the RNC, media, CFR didn't want Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo messing up their master plan for global government. Nor do they want the lucrative international drug trafficing stopped. Someone gets a cut. Import slave labor, drugs, low class subjects that will always need government help and you have the ideal set up for global government. And they will vote for you into perpetutiy.
How do you like my guy Tom Tancredo now?

Whose Country Is It?


We the People of the United States of America have the right to have our borders and our laws respected and enforced.

Citizens of other countries illegally in our country have no right to demand anything from our government. They most certainly have the right to petition the governments of their home countries for change if they are unhappy with their home country. If they want to be Americans, we have a path to citizenship, more generous than any other nation, and it starts in their home country.

We need to insist on the equal protection, application and enforcement of the law or devolve into anarchy. Our Republic only functions if everyone follows the same rules. We should not change the laws to accomodate those breaking them.

If America annouces to the world "We can't stop you, so come on in" with another amnesty, the deluge will be overwhelming. If 3,000 a day didn't get your attention, then wait until it's 10,000 a day. We cannot sustain this influx and survive as a nation. We must speak up and speak to each other about this and not let false claims of racism or bigotry be used to intimidate us into silent assent. America is not Congress' to give away. America belongs to We the People. Speak to your neighbors, speak to your coworkers, but please speak up to your Congressmen and Senators. It's O.K. for us to enforce our laws, no really, it is.

Someone please tell Sen. McCain.

Really
Dis Schafely really just compare a series of incidents in which Mexican police were briefly on our side of the border, most likely because of accidents of location, with an invasion of Georgia that has led to the deaths of thousands?

It seems to be what she has done. But the truly twisted nature of using the tragedy in Georgia in this way makes me hope she is not really depraved enough to have done what she seems to have done.

Were there no other large death tolls around the world she could use to score cheap political points?

McCain Lied About Hearing Us



When I heard McCain's Hispanic Outreach guy was none other than Smiling Juan Hernandez, I knew John McCain has heard nothing we have had to say.


Smiling Juan Hernadez
We know who he is, we know his loyalties are to Mexico, we know he wants to erase our borders and immigration laws.

JOHN MCCAIN, YOU NEED A NEW HEARING AID

Smiling Juan Hernandez
In case you don't know him, he used to work for the Mexican govt., lately he has been shilling for "rights" for illegal aliens in this country. He has said he wants Mexicans to remain Mexicans even if they are living here. His loyalties are to Mexico, not U.S.



Questions for illegal alien apologists like John McCain:

Why does The National Council of the Race (la raza in spanish) and the Chamber of Commerce get to negotiate a "Comprehensive Shafting of The American Citizens" behind closed doors? Since when does an organization representing foreign nationals breaking our laws get to rewrite our immigration laws to suit the lawbreakers? Isn't this akin to allowing NAMBLA to rewrite our laws regarding child predators? Or allowing organized crime syndicates to rewrite racketeering, gambling, prostitution, and extortion laws?

We The People are being told by our representatives that we should sit down and shut up while they invite in the entire world. We The People should get some say in this matter. Another amnesty will set off a stampede like we have never seen before. There is not much time to save our country. All the power and money are on the side of shoving this amnesty down our throats. The RNC wants an amnesty candidate, don't vote for one.

the staggering cost of "cheap" labor
The Mexican govt. bullies us in multiple ways because of the Faustian deals that too many pols have made for business lobby $ and a few Hispanic votes. Presidente Jorge BUSH has tried hard to represent his constituents well- the citizens of MEXICO!

There are SO MANY fatuous myths about the supposed benefits of tolerating ILLEGAL aliens. A key verity is that they are SURELY NOT cheap labor all-in... miscreant employers simply pocket the "savings," but YOUR hotel room or lettuce is no cheaper. The all-in costs of ILLEGAL aliens to taxpayers and society is DEVASTATING.

The apologia for them smacks of the same arguments which had been used to defend slavery, and the legacy will be just as terrible. The 'Crats are already effectively reprising "40 acres and a mule-- then you can vote like your friends do." If we legitimize them with licenses, etc., we will doom America to morphing inexorably into a third world welfare state. The demographics are easy to project --> per the highly respected Heritage Foundation:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/bg1936.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/upload/wm_1076 .pdf

Support politicians everywhere who commit to reversing the trend-- while we still have a little time.

Support the SAVE Act in Congress. Here is the official contact site for Congress-- bookmark it and contact them often... it is EASY and FREE to do so... see also the free, targeted e-mails you can send from NumbersUSA:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm
http://www.numbersusa.com/actionbuffet

a concurrent post here about...
how Mexicans view their ILLEGAL incursion into America, which is aided and abetted by open border NAU quislings Presidente Jorge Bush and Amnesty Juan McVain:

(slight editing below for clarity)
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My Take--

I have many Hispanic friends, and I speak enough Spanish to understand practically all of what I hear. This is what I have found:

Mexicans truly believe that California and much of the U.S. western states were wrongly taken from Mexico. This is their land, their ancestors were here first, and some can trace their ancestry back to before their land was taken away. Hence, the Reconquista (re-taking, or re-conquering) agenda.

They truly believe that the U.S. liberals stupidly passed the laws that give them all the freebies: free health care, zero will to enforce immigration laws (cannot ask a Hispanic person for immigration status), and others. And all those laws are there for them. If not for them, then why were they passed?

The also know that their rate of having children is far greater than that of Anglos. They understand that it is only a matter of time before they become the majority of the voting populace because they are willing to have children.

Middle American views on the invasion
Several recent polls indicate that independents now rank ILLEGAL immigration as their GREATEST CONCERN for America. It is an arrant disingenuous farce when the PC ilk, MSM, and Hispanic apologists posit that Middle America is divided about what to do about ILLEGAL aliens, or suggests that it is a serious concern only among "fringe conservatives."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/content/search?SearchText=i mmigration
http://www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006pollrelease.html
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_res earchd74c
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1328
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back906.html

The general public overwhelmingly favors REAL immigration reform (BUT not Scamnesty posing as "C.I.R."). Poll after poll shows that Americans want well-enforced, sensible, and sustainable immigration laws.

* 89% of Americans think ILLEGAL immigration into the U.S. is a problem (30% "extremely serious," 33% "very serious," and 26% "somewhat serious."
(Time Magazine, Jan. 2006)

* 82% think that not enough is being done along the borders to keep ILLEGAL aliens from crossing into the country.
(New York Times/CBS May 2007)

* 68% feel that the number of immigrants who cross the border, whether legal or ILLEGAL is "too high".
(Polling Company, Sept. 2006)

* 62% oppose making it easier for ILLEGAL aliens to become citizens of America.
(Quinnipiac Univ., Feb. 2006)

*71% believe that ILLEGAL aliens should not qualify for in-state tuition rates at colleges and universities.

*77 % oppose making drivers' licenses available to ILLEGAL aliens.

*71% favor requiring foreign visitors to carry universal I.D. card

*77% say that employers can require English-only on the job

inconvenient immigration stats- part 1


Since 2000 an estimated 10 to 12 million immigrants have arrived, representing the highest seven-year period of immigration in U.S. history BY FAR. If immigration were to continue at this rate, the nation's population would increase from 301 million today to 468 million in 2060, a 56% increase.

One in eight U.S. residents is now an ILLEGAL or legal immigrant.

Research on the impact this is having on the U.S. economy reveals that Americans are spending between $11 and $22 billion on welfare to ILLEGAL aliens each year by state governments. Of this, $2.2 billion a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps and free school lunches.

An estimated $2.5 billion a year is spent on Medicaid for ILLEGALS. The demands on American hospitals have forced some to close emergency rooms as ILLEGAL ALIENS crowd them and the law requires their care despite their inability to pay for it.

Approximately $12 billion is spent on primary and secondary school education for children that are here ILLEGALLY, many of whom cannot speak English.

It costs Americans $3 million a day to incarcerate illegal aliens, and 30% of all federal prison inmates are ILLEGAL ALIENS. The crime rates of ILLEGAL aliens are estimated to be 2.5x higher than native-born Americans for crimes that include illicit drugs, rape and murder.

Native-born Americans are losing an estimated $200 billion in wages that have been driven down by the influx of ILLEGAL aliens. This particularly hurts minorities and the young seeking employment.

Meanwhile over the past five years ILLEGAL aliens sent home remittances estimated to be between $25 and $45 billion to their countries of origin.

inconvenient immigration stats- part 2

We are arguably at a critical moment in our nation's history when a moratorium on virtually all immigration is needed. We have had such a moratorium in the past following the vast immigration of the late 1800s and early 1900s.

At that earlier time America needed immigrants to help build the nation's infrastructure and participate in its industrial growth, and we could absorb the ignorant and poor.

Things are very different today, as we have progressed to an advanced service economy calling mainly for educated, skilled workers-- NOT the ignorant, indigent, culturally disparate flooding across the border and willfully overstaying visas-- ALL committing felonies to work here and seek social services.

What America needs now is a period of stabilization and a period in which to
reduce the population of ILLEGAL aliens through attritive repatriation, and to temper the entry of legal immigrants to confirm desirable assimilation, lest the melting pot go into meltdown.

If we do not, we risk so overburdening our economy, our schools, and our health and justice systems that we do grievous harm to present and future generations of all Americans.

the Conspiracy Of Evil


The biggest challenge to stopping ILLEGAL aliens is that the money and organization (hence power) is mainly on the other side. The pro-ILLEGAL forces include an unlikely, strange bedfellow alliance between groups which want to USE them in different ways--> the Conspiracy Of Evil.

Miscreant employers simply want to exploit their labor-- screw the myriad egregious socio-economic problems they foist on America. The PC left wants to get them voting and seize permanent control for the leftist "elites" via
big entitlement government. The scandal-plagued Catholic Church needs bodies for the pews; and ILLEGALS can put more in the collection plates in America than in Mexico. Ethnocentric Hispanic groups really do want an effective
Reconquista, so they hide behind claims of racism and pleas for PC multiculturalism and one world kumbaya.

Finally, the remote elites, including the liberal MSM, do not see what all the fuss is about. Besides, they LIKE their cheap ILLEGAL maids and yard-workers, and THEIR kids will not have to go to schools enervated by "those people."

Most of America is understandably righteously indignant about ILLEGAL aliens invading America, pervading and permeating pandemic social pathologies (violent crimes, gangs, drugs, illegitimacies, dropouts, barrio blight, social service enervation, willful cultural disparateness):

Per TIME magazine (2006), fully 89% of Americans think that ILLEGAL immigration is a SERIOUS problem --> 30% "extremely serious," 33% "very serious," and 26% "somewhat serious."

See how YOU can get involved to save YOUR country at my posts below. America would be a terrible thing to lose!

Lets move the White House
To El Paso Texas and watch and see if they build a fence around it.

Now why is it so important for the White House to have a swarm of Armed Guards?

What does "Homeland" Security mean?

All I can tell its good for is at airports, checking out law abiding US Citizens.

Nothing to be concerned about on an open border, unless that border is in Iraq, Georgia, or Afghanistan.

I say the enemy of the United States of America are the people in our own government.

loss of sovereignty
Today's Dallas Morning News has a front page photo of a large Mexican flag that flies in a commercial neighborhood in Dallas. Down the street, one can see an American flag. They both look the same height, which is against the rules of flag etiquette. More importantly, this signals the melding of the two countries. Can Canada be far behind? The North American Union is alive and well in Dallas and many other cities.

Not Bush, not McCain, not Obama
In fact, neither party will protect our nation because they are both infiltrated and controlled by internationalists. These are the people who want to see the New World Order/One World Government agenda fulfilled, and they are working hard to bring it about.

The biggest obstacle to the NWO/OWG agenda is American sovereignty based upon the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. In order to eliminate that sovereignty it is necessary to do the following:

1. Flood America with foreign immigrants, legal or illegal, who have no understanding of or appreciation for freedom, including how we got it and how we keep it. As a corollary, dumb down American schools so our own kids have no understanding of freedom as well.

2. Weaken the American military by using it as an international police force, stationing troops around the world, and sticking our noses in everyone elses business. This has the added benefit of making America look like a bully and keeping up anti-American sentiment.

3. Weaken the American economy by continued deficit spending, borrowing from our enemies, creating additional entitlements, and spending foreign aid to save the world from poverty, hunger, disease, etc.

4. Submit to international NGO's, giving them credibility as authorities that we must obey because we want to further international understanding and cooperation.

the worst hypocrites about ILLEGALS

... are the wealthy remote "elites" (see Geraldo, Smilin' Juan Hernandez, and Linda Chavez). Linda Chavez is a case in point. She writes routinely here about the alleged benefits of ILLEGAL aliens, BUT she never fesses up that she sits on the board of a huge janitorial company which employs them! Consider uber lib Nancy Pelosi... she brays about compassion for ILLEGALS and supports scamnesty, even as her crooked wealthy husband employs them to work ILLEGALLY in their vineyards. And how about Sen. Martinez delivering Fla. to quisling Amnesty John because ethnicity was more important than patriotism to the wealthy Cuban.

ILLEGALS are simply "the new slaves" in a very real socio-economic sense-- the relative few in America benefit ILLEGALLY from their labors (YOUR hotel room and vegetables are NO cheaper to YOU), but the legacy will be DEVASTATING for the many (citizens and taxpayers) who will inherit the pandemic social pathologies and pay for the re-stoked welfare state, which the prolific ILLEGALS will soon insist upon with numbers.

Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history are condemned to repeat them. Much of Europe now faces the inevitable hegemony of Shariah Law in a generation because they myopically imported Islamic Arabs to do its mean tasks... the native populations never fathomed making them equal citizens, but they are inexorably being outbred.

Guest worker programs nearly always backfire UNLESS rigidly enforced. Worse still, "amnestia" only begets a bigger invasion... RR admitted that the worst mistake of his political life was getting snookered into amnesty for just over 1 million (which proved to be 3 million!) in exchange for a promise of tough enforcement... the left then winked at each other and refused to fund the approved enforcement.

How much do ILLEGAL aliens cost us?


Notwithstanding fatuous claims that America truly benefits from the labor of ILLEGAL aliens (actually, only a relative handful of miscreant employers do), there are myriad and snowballing direct costs of ILLEGAL aliens to contemplate...

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.htmlG ALS

Try BUSH for treason
The congress is equally corrupt so count that out.....I've feared this country becoming a third world banana republic...unfortunately it already is!
And the Ilegals are NOT the slaves. The American people are who are working 2-3 jobs to keep up with the tax bills and cost of living to support these lawbreakers. Like a pressure cooker left too long on the stove this situation is gonna blow,....I just hope it will be sooner than later!

Dallas Morning News is a joke...
DMN is nothing but a Latino rear-end kissing rag that glorifies the "noble migrant" 24/7/365.

I'm afraid there are basically no American nationalists anymore, in the good sense of the term - common sensed patriot. The nation has gone wild for "diversity" and "multi-culturalism". It has permeated every school, every firm's HR department, every movie, tv show, etc.

Still most Americans agree with we patriotic immigration reformers but alas, we don't have the levers of power.


Not Bush, not McCain, not Obama Part II
5. Squander American resources by not drilling for oil, keeping the lid on nuclear expansion, supporting extreme environmental positions, and ruining our ability to feed ourselves with foolish ideas like ethanol.

6. THE KEY ENDEAVOR - Keep the sheep in line by convincing them that they have no other choice, nowhere else to go, that they must vote the lesser of two evils. By employing the old technique of telling a lie over and over until accepted as true, the DEM/GOP/MSM propaganda machines have secured a virtual lock on power for the two major parties, allowing them to pursue their global agenda.

This is the time and this is the election where "we the people" must re-assert our authority to govern ourselves according to the principles of the Decaration of Independence and the Constitution. We can no longer afford to have another elite assume the Presidency!

If you care to see how the elites have perpetrated the greatest scam ever, I urge you to visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG. It is the one place that will explain in detail the outright theft of our birthright and inheritance.

As Einstein said, doing the same thing expecting a different result is insane. This is the time to do what we have been taught not to do, reject the elites! Check out the website, you will not be disappointed. Thanks, Joe

And my question would be
"Today's Dallas Morning News has a front page photo of a large Mexican flag that flies in a commercial neighborhood in Dallas."

So what and who cares? If someone on their own property--a residential development is still private property no--wants to fly a Mexican flag--great. if you don't like it, feel free to build your own development and fly whatever flag you want. I've seen "multifamily complexes" have all sort of flags--Vietnam (three red bars on gold), Taiwan, Mexico, and a host of others, car dealerships often have 10 or more country flags flying. Hotels as well.

This is as silly as people getting upset over "the Confederate flag."

Not the fences
"Recommendation: let's build the same kind of walls that they put around the White House. Worth a try."

Its the hordes of Secret Service on the grounds--sure you can crawl over the fence, but you won't get too far. You going to be able tp put that manpower on the border? You can build a DPRK-ROK border fence too--few cross that border, but how expensive will that be and unlike the Korean border, the US-Mexico border is much longer.

The Great Wall of China (and there were more than one--hundreds of walls in fact) did work to some extent--The Qin stopped the Xiongnu, but the wall didn't stop the Nurchen during the northern Song nor the Mongols. The wall failed and the Mongols basically took Beijing again during the Ming nor did the impressive Ming wall--the wall you see today as "the Great Wall", stop the Manchu.

As long as there are jobs in the US that pay better than jobs in Mexico and in other parts of Central America, they will still come--wall or not.

Maybe you can get the Chinese guy from South Park to help you build it.

who will protect us?
Great questions Phyllis. The answer is US! The borders remain open and I believe its for profit, namely drug money. Those in government have no integrity and have proven they cannot be trusted. They continue to turn a deft ear to majority of Americans. Every illegal immigrant that kills an American has committed an an act of terror. Our elected officials by refusing to enforce our laws have willful and knowingly committed the act of treason.

The media refuses to talk about it. Just as they refuse to cover Ron Paul , Alan keys , Bob Huff and Chuck Baldwin and others that are running for the office of president. Instead they focus on two people that in my opinion are not qualified to fill the seat of president. They certainly do not represent me and others like me.

Lodestar
Must you paste the same tired posts you cut from CIS everytime there is a subject on immigration? We've all seen them before--a number of times by now--thank you.

Why don't you make a blog and post them there and then everytime there is a column on immigration (which is about every 2-3 days here) you can simply post the link to your blog and it'd save you time and us time not to mention space on the TH servers.

Our Daunting ILLEGAL Alien Problem-- 1


Not so long ago, some were defending ILLEGALS with the globalist, open borders PC litany such as "The undocumented are just doing jobs Americans won't do that our economy needs done." The MSM kept trying to refer to ILLEGAL aliens as "undocumented workers," as if the only result of ILLEGALS being here was that they worked. Those who opposed ILLEGALS were dubbed racists, xenophobes, and nativists. We were artfully told that today's ILLEGALS were not only making net contributions, but would gradually become assimilated Americans. There were warnings that the Republican Party would tear itself asunder if it allowed "a radical fringe" to alienate Hispanics (still only 6% of the actual vote in 2006), though about half of Hispanic Americans OPPOSE ILLEGAL aliens pervading their country.

Some vacuously posit that the angst about ILLEGALS is simply the current iteration of historical resentment toward arriving aliens which vanished after they were absorbed, but this is artful dodging at best. As Pat Buchanan saliently points out, an ocean separated prior immigrants from home countries, and THEY came here to BECOME Americans, and embraced and took pride in assimilation. We could absorb and assimilate the poor and even ignorant in the past because our economy was much simpler and agrarian-based for generations.

(please see part II below)

Our Daunting ILLEGAL Alien Problem-- 2


Today's Hispanic ILLEGALS (about 80% of all ILLEGALS per PEW) have a different mind set entirely, their home countries are close by such that the socio-cultural umbilical cord is not cut, and today's advanced service economy really needs the educated and skilled. These Hispanics are clinging tenaciously to their culture and language, and the PC and globalist ilk is trying to accommodate them with bilingual education and accommodations.

Middle Americans who actually live among the pandemic pernicious social pathologies which accompany the permeation of ILLEGALS are called xenophobes, demagogues and demonizers for pointing out these major differences from the past, and the red herring straw man challenge that "we cannot simply deport 12 million" is used to justify "regularization" (see Rudy and the Huckster) or "Comprehensive
Immigration Reform" (read: scamnesty).

But about 3/4 of us are waking up to the disingenuous drivel, and familiarity with the pernicious concomitant social pathologies (crime, gangs, drugs, balkanization, school and social service enervation, illegitimacies, drop-outs) breeds contempt and righteous indignation.

WHY ILLEGALS COME HERE IS IRRELEVANT-- ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL! Congress, which has TOTALLY misread the pulse of Peoria, tried to cram through scamnesty in several shell game forms, but was soundly rebuffed. Senator Sessions and Cong. Peter King said that Congress had NEVER seen such wrath in the heartland.

The governor of N.Y., a relatively liberal state, was adamantly opposed by about 75% of N.Y. residents who saw through the drivers licenses for voter fraud scheme. As Bill Bennett notes, "There is real fire in America now on (ILLEGAL) immigration unlike on any issue I have ever seen."

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Subject: Lodestar
Must you paste the same tired posts you cut from CIS everytime there is a subject on immigration? We've all seen them before--a number of times by now--thank you.

Why don't you make a blog and post them there and then everytime (sic) there is a column on immigration (which is about every 2-3 days here) you can simply post the link to your blog and it'd save you time and us time not to mention space on the TH servers.

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As a regular reader here, it would seem that it is YOU who obsesses with immigration issue columns, specifically in an iconoclastic mode versus TH posters' prevailing sentiments. We have all heard ad nauseam your supercilious, petulant, chip-on-the-shoulder tirades against Middle America because it does not always embrace foreigners as YOU fathom that it should, though America is EASILY the most successfully diverse nation on earth by any reckoning... and you have graced us with WAY TMI about how things are done in Taiwan-- as if relevant to discussions about ILLEGAL alien incursions in America.

Lodestar's posts are surely redundant (many here are occasional readers who would not know to check out one among myriad individual blogs), but unusually well-sourced (C.I.S. is rarely used by her/him), articulate, and generally cogent... you are free to pass them by.

akagi
Of course you dont care. Why would any non AMERICAN citizen care what flag flies you ignorant north korean troll.

akagi
And with regard to your reply lodestar. Most of us American citizens here are tired of your "I'm always right and you are always wrong" posts. You are not liked here. You have been told this. You know nothing of the soul of America.

no more a nation of immigrants
We have become a nation in our own right. We have citizens for generations who were born in the U.S. legally.
We no longer need to have immigrants to populate the U.S.
We have our own language (hopefully it is English), culture and traditions.

By the by the dialect spoken by a lot of Mexicans is not true Spanish it is Tex-Mex, which can not be understood anywhere else in the world.
Castilian Spanish that is spoken and understood world wide.

Illegal Immigration
is not the problem as much as the lack of assimilation.

I have no problem with immigrants, but I do have problem with them trying to turn this country into the sewer they left.

UncleB
You are right I don't care nor should you what flag someone chooses to fly over their own property.

North Korean Akagi
You do not have the right to TELL me what I should and shouldn't care about. You have PROVEN to most of true Americans here that you care NOTHING about America. True citizens take PRIDE in our flag. What I do care about is fools such as yourself trashing MY country.
Troll. Just go away

The Mexican Military
Has anyone heard the reason the Mexican military keeps coming onto our side? I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with being a distraction for our side while drug trucks sneak through elsewhere. That would be illegal! They wouldn't do anything illegal, would they? Particularly not in our country.

Or do they still consider Arizona their country? I know a lot of Mexican people believe that everything back to and including the Louisana Purchase should be returned to Mexico. (After the Americans living there now move back to what is left of the U.S., of course. They don't want them; just the houses and factories, and businesses and banks and money ...)

recent advice from M. Malkin
While Amnesty John might go down in flames this fall, partly because of stunts like Kennedy-McVain scamnesty, we MUST also think about electing true conservatives (not RINO's like Presidente Jorge Bush and Amnesty Juan McVain) to Congress and to state level positions. Things went fairly well despite Slick Willie BECAUSE true Republicans in Congress made them so (spending restraint, balanced budgets, welfare reform, crime fighting).

The open border/embrace amigos, RINO, neoCON and profligate spending types have sorely sullied the Republican brand, but we need to minimize the bleeding, correct the course, and then rally behind someone for 4 years from now.

from Michelle Malkin:
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"Some on the right advise their readers and listeners to vote Democrat or sit home. My advice is exactly the opposite: Get off the couch and walk the walk for conservative candidates and officeholders who need all the help they can get defending free markets, free minds and secure borders -- no matter who takes the White House in November."

foreign outlaw gangs
My family & I had Mexican illegals move into our area who were violent gangsters, selling heroin on the streets. I tried to notify local officials of the foreign criminals by stating that there were "heroin dealers in front of where some Latinos live" A City Council member and future Mayor and State Representative had a press conference in front of my family home and said they could tell what I meant was that some of the drug dealers were Latinos, and that was racist. One pointed to my family home and said my family should be punished. A Judges' commissioned study came out then and was published in the local paper that said there were heroin dealing gangsters that were in the US illegally from Mexico. That didn't stop the targeting of me and my family by local officials and their followers, as well as the foreign outlaw gang itself.
Jane Baer
Santa Cruz, California

Jane
For Gods sake be careful. Protect yourself and your family.

Invasion
Who will protect us from Phyllis Schlafly???

flying a foreign flag was bad taste...
There was a time, not too long ago, that flying a foreign flag in the US (on private property)was not considered terrible or horrible but it was considered bad taste. On public property, as a few public schools and post offices even, absolutely should be forbidden.

Those who don't have a problem with foreign flags show their true colors. They are not really Americans - they are "trans-nationals" who move around the world in search of a job offering better and better pay, but alas, they have no real home or heritage.

We Americans know Mexicans are obsessed with encouraging half of their population to "migrate" to the USA. It makes up for their pathetically run nation, which is rich in resources but mis-managed for decades (centuries?).

But it's not all Mexico's fault. It also the fault of the US government for allowing this all to happen and the fault of US businesses who seek cheap labor with no "messy" social security tax to pay.

It won't end until a little healthy nationalism returns. And based on the Chinese, Russians and Muslims, even some "free trade" advocates are re-thinking the wisdom of unrestricted "free trade" and suggesting the US needs to create more things and energy domestically.



Bean counting
It's time to throw their bodies back over the fence. Enough.

Akagi
You of all people should know better than to fly the flag of another country other than your own. Why don't you try it in your home country of North Korea. Yea try flying an American or South Korean flag in your country of North Korea. Actually that is a good idea. If you tried it you would never been seen or heard from again.

reply to Jane
If it is possible to move on, I would... but then the ILLEGAL alien drug pushers crashing your neighborhood might have already compromised your ability to sell by eroding your property value.

It is truly unconscionable what your local pols did to you... it is a helluva thing when ILLEGAL alien drug pushers can do as they please, even as citizens are beleaguered by PC grandstanding demagoguery from egregiously self-aggrandizing pols.

When I see some here bray about the supposed virtues of diversity and open-mindedness amid apologia for ILLEGAL aliens, one wonders what they will say when it is THEIR daughter who is raped, beaten and brutally murdered by the ilk of Jose Medellin, then in the middle of a "Black and White" gang initiation.

http://townhall.com/columnists/JanetMLaRue/2008/08/08/new_y ork_times_bemoans_killer%e2%80%99s_execution

Granny is off her medicine
Nice "War of the Worlds" style hyperbole. We're being invaded!! Oh, who will protect us, someone please think of the children!

"against the invasion by Mexican trucks"

It seems we don't mind actually invading another country, and bombing thousands of people, but the moment a foreign truck with no violent intention comes rolling across our border, people scream bloody murder.

Boycott Mexico
The goal is to make the invaders' lives so miserable that Mexico looks better than the US.

Boycott Mexico. Don't hire landscapers, housecleaners, or construction workers. Don't do business with any company that hires illegals. Boycott B of A and other banks that make it easy for illegals. Don't buy Mexican produce. Don't attend Catholic church, and don't drop any money in the colection plate. Call your Congressman and ask why the federal government is the biggest employer of illegal aliens. Don't buy from companies that use Mexican language advertising - and tell them why you are boycotting them. Don't send money to the Democrat or Republican party - tell them they get no more until they get serious about the borders.

It's racist to look the other way as our nation is being invaded. Take action.

aliens
Bring home our soldiers and equipment from FDR’s War, before they are surrounded by the Islamo-fascist-terrorist murderers that are overrunning Britain, Germany, and France. Have the infantry round up and deport the millions of illegal aliens. Have our tanks and helicopters patrol our borders, firing on the Mexican army trucks that escort drug dealers and fire on our border patrol people. Have the Army Engineers build the wall along our border. Fund this with the billions of dollars presently paid out to protect Germany.

Enforce existing law, and deport all illegal aliens arrested by police in all levels of government. Deprive illegal aliens of jobs and homes. Fine and imprison persons who hire illegal aliens. Fine and imprison persons who rent homes to illegal aliens.

Make Spanish-language radio and TV broadcasts and ads in newspapers saying, “Mexican illegal aliens, Go Home. Return to your homeland and make it your own. Get rid of the corrupt politicians in the government. Get rid of the gangsters. Use the money received from oil sales and other sources to build schools to educate your children and provide jobs. American entrepreneurs will help you set up businesses and provide jobs for your people. Remember, too, that it is not macho to have a wife that is always pregnant and sick, and many children that are underfed, wearing rags, living in a shack, and uneducated. Macho is two healthy, happy, well-fed, well-housed, educated children and a wife who is the same. There are millions of you. Go home and make Mexico the place where you want to live and work.”

Shouting
A WORD TO THE WISE FOR NANCY PELOSI, ET AL, HARRY REID, ET AL, AND SCOTUS: REMEMBER

WHEN KING GEORGE III AND PARLIAMENT CAUSED THE FIRST AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THEY HAD 3000 MILES OF OCEAN AND A LARGE ARMY AND NAVY BETWEEN THEM AND THE VICTIMS OF THEIR TYRANNY. THAT IS WHY THE AMERICAN PATRIOTS DIRECTED THEIR DISPLEASURE AT A SHIPLOAD OF TEA.

NOW, WHEN U. S. CONGRESS MEMBERS ARE CAUSING THE SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THEY ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE PATRIOTS THEY ARE BETRAYING, AS WERE THE FRENCH ROYALS WHO WERE GUILLOTINED. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WHILE THEY’RE SPREAD OUT IN EACH CONSTITUENCY AREA FOR A FIVE-WEEK VACATION.

NOW, THEY CAN BE TRIED FOR TREASON BY THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHO WILL NOT TOLERATE THE LIBERAL BETRAYEL OF OUR NATION AND OF OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL. WHEN BOTH SENATORS AND SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM MANY OF THE STATES COMMIT MULTIPLE ACTS OF TREASON AGAINST THE NATION AND THE PEOPLE, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE CONSTITUENTS TO PROSECUTE THEM, SELECT APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT FOR THEM, AND CARRY IT OUT.


Build the fence
Build the fence!
Bush will not get it.
Obama will not get it.
McCain says to build the fence first!!

Don't follow an Issue
All these posts are just repetitous. You all just want to gripe. If you were interested in having an impact, you would follow those who are working for change. I'll bet you all missed the census report that shows illegals down by 3 million.

talent scout and va. sam
2 ol buddies wracking up some more truth!
Sam is right, and Talent is right ...our own gvmnt is becoming our enemy!Who caused the big
dollars to go to Illegals? Our excrete brains
in wash. d.c. The courts,the politicians,etc!
Who said they can just walk in and get free medical care...our courts!
Who made all this mess possible....?! Our
gvmnt! Therein lies our enemies...!
elvis

It is about the 2nd Amendment
The founders had the foresight to interject the only right in the Bill of Rights, that being the right to own and bear arms.

We are being attacked by the Mexican military who make daily incursions into our country as armed protectors of drug runners. Graft and corruption are rife in Mexico, especially in our border areas.

Americans are being threatened by these goons daily, along with the brave men and women of the Border Patrol.

If our government doesn't want to stop this invasion of our sovereign states, then we may have to depend on the right to bear arms at two hundred yards to stop it.

If enough heavily armed citizens converged on the border with Mexico it would definitely get the attention of those that break our laws through their illegal and strong arm activities, and of course our do nothing government that would surely threaten us with legal action for defending our states from armed incursion by Mexican troops and thugs.

That is when we remind those elected officials that would so threaten us that the founders made law the Second Amendment just for that very reason. It is to defend ourselves from petty bureaucratic tyrants. If the government wants to start another revolution, them being the targets they it is time they stopped kowtowing to their special interest sugar daddy's and mommy's and started doing what we hire them to take an oath to do, or become targets of opportunity.

The Turban Torpedo

yea jagoffmaster
We are a terrible country. I dont know how you can live here you being pure and all. Maybe you should find a conutry more to your liking and get away from us heathens.
Just in case you can't take a hint.......
L E A V E

Oh Clairesoft
I'll bet you really do believe that ALL illegal aliens here were good little soldiers and ALL of them reported to be counted by the census takers. Well that was chitty chitty bang bang nice of 'em wasn't it. Now that was nice. What will be your next FAIRY TALE?

How to stop invasion
We need that double-layered border fence, 25,000 Border Patrol agents and 100,000 National Guardsmen, with guns loaded and ready to fire, to stop this insane invasion.

Will it ever happen? No.

Virginia Patriot...post 21
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Don't know where you get your numbers of 3,000 a day. It's more like 10,000 a day.
When I lived in Houston in the mid 70's the Chronicle openly said that three thousand (3000) were coming across every night of which we were catching 1,000 most of whom just recrossed later.

It is true that an important percentage cross and recross as they go home for a few months of rest while their compadres from back home in Mexico, who recently crossed going north, do their job. Just a game of musical chairs, but the numbers are far, far larger than anything talked about publicly.
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ClaireSolt,
You state the Census as proof illegal immigration is down. Did it ever occur to you that the census might be inaccurate? Did the Census Bureau ask every Hispanic if they were citizens or not? Did every illegal admit to it when asked? Are you asking us to not trust our eyes? In Tulsa, OK, where I live, the Hispanic population has doubled over the past 10 yrs. I'm sure this is the case in every city and town across the country. Tell you what, take a vacation to Laredo, Texas or any other border town and see the future of our country for yourself.

reply to rdk
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Subject: Build the fence
Build the fence!
Bush will not get it.
Obama will not get it.
McCain says to build the fence first!!

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I am all for the fence, irrespective of whether it works entirely... it sends a changed message from our quisling government to millions more invaders. But I trust Amnesty Juan about as far as I can throw him on the ILLEGAL alien incursion issue. He groveled to La Raza recently promising amnestia for the many millions now here-- because he made a Faustian deal years ago for votes and employer lobby $. He has NOT "gotten America's message"-- he has just polished up his act to get elected.

IF we make citizens of 12-20 million [the REAL numbers proved to be about 3x as great when RR was snookered into a "one-time amnesty for 1.1 million" in exchange for tough new enforcement laws-- that were never funded], we will end up with 60-100 million mostly poor and ignorant future crime stats (3x as likely) and welfare seekers per the highly respected think tank the Heritage Foundation:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/upload/wm_1076 .pdf

Amnesty Juan is old and stubborn... he would like nothing better than to shove amnestia down our throats as part of his legacy. Beware the changed tune of this aged Pied Piper.

it's the topic the media won't approach
There still really isn't any MAINSTREAM discussion on the seriousness of 2,000+ crossing our southern border each and every day.

When a mainstream mouthpiece (like Miquel Medved) brings it up, it's to say how good it is for the economy. How shameful. To endorse a quasi-like slavery and the deconstruction of the traditional American heritage demographically, how shameful.

Our government by action and inaction, is forcing a cultural change onto the people, for the betterment of business and foreign elites, who want their "excess population" sent to the US.

The American people have not been asked whether or not we want to be changed, whether we want to become a bilingual, Latino-oriented culture.

reply to BETWyan
I agree w/you about the MSM not wanting to focus on the ILLEGAL alien incursion, pervasion and enervation of America... here is my assessment of why:

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The biggest challenge to stopping ILLEGAL aliens is that the money and organization (hence power) is mainly on the other side. The pro-ILLEGAL forces include an unlikely, strange bedfellow alliance between groups which want to USE them in different ways--> the Conspiracy Of Evil.

Miscreant employers obviously simply want to exploit their labor-- never mind the myriad, egregious socio-economic problems they foist on America. The PC left wants to get them voting and seize permanent control for the leftist "elites" via yet more inexorable big entitlement government... power flows to 'Crats/the left when YOUR tax $ flows to Washington.

The scandal-plagued Catholic Church needs replacement bodies for the pews; and ILLEGALS can put more in the collection plates in America than in Mexico... and still has mega-millions to pay out for priest perversion (after deciding to forgive each priest one act of perversion-- Jesus!):

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/15/local/me-priests15

Ethnocentric Hispanic groups really do want an effective Reconquista, so they hide behind claims of racism and pleas for PC multiculturalism and one world NWO kumbaya.

http://www.illegalaliens.us/aztlan.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/mexico_immigration/2007/09 /28/36496.html?s=al&promo_code=3A98-1
http://www.libertygunrights.com/NAUFactSheet.pdf

Finally, the remote elites, including the liberal MSM, do not see what all the fuss is about. Besides, they LIKE their cheap ILLEGAL maids and yard-workers, and THEIR children will not have to go to schools enervated by "those people."

the myth of the fence cost
One of the egregious red herring canards about building the border fence is the projected cost. POPPYCOCK! What will REALLY be staggering are the colossal socio-economic costs associated with the tsunami of ignorant, indigent ILLEGAL aliens if their invasion is not stanched and reversed via attritive repatriation following REAL enforcement of EXISTING laws.

For several billion AT MOST, we could have an impenetrable fence.

the myth of fence cost -- part II
Your federal government spends about $6 billion of your tax $ A DAY! Worse still perhaps, it is paying for its profligate ways by borrowing WAY TOO MUCH and printing $, making your fuel price soar, which multiplies through the economy, even as global companies outsource your jobs overseas.

Your government is substantially squandering $2 TRILLION all-in (per TIME) on Iraq because some neoCONS around Presidente Jorge (Wolfowitz, Perle Libby, Wurmser... and buddies Kristol, May, Ledeen, Gaffney, Krauthammer) wanted permanent bases there to protect Israel... the REAL reason we took out Saddam, who was an ENEMY of Osama.

For what we spend in a few DAYS on Iraq, we could have a border fence that would last like the Pyramids! And BOY would it FINALLY send a different message to the millions of largely ignorant indigent who want to milk America for its currently unprotected bounty. So much for Presidente Jorge's Oath of Office, "to defend and protect the borders of the United States..."

Bobby
As I am not a citizen of the DPRK nor have I been there so I can't say for sure what flags are indeed flying there. But in Taiwan, major hotels often have had other flags beside the ROC flag and yet no one got concerned over the American or British or German flags being displayed.

A bookstore I used to visit had for sale all kinds of flags--current and historical--including German Imperial, the Japanese jack, the flag of the USSR, etc.

Again, who cares if someone on private property wants to fly the Mexican (or Confederate) flag. If you visit Atlanta on West Paces Ferry Road, there is a residence flying the French flag from a high flag pole. Should that bother you?


Join the fight to save America!


Presidente Jorge has put out a, "Bienvenido, amigos" sign down on the border. It is CRITICAL that we force the political will against the powerful Conspiracy Of Evil... > 70%+ of Americans want the result. The very survival of America depends upon enforcing EXISTING laws.

Many pols have been bought and paid for by the miscreant employer/Chamber lobbies who bray the disingenuous drivel about "America must have that cheap labor to do those jobs Americans won't do."

HOGWASH! Americans simply expect a living wage to do those jobs. When the govt. makes token show raids on meat plants, etc., Americans return to reclaim those jobs immediately. ILLEGAL alien employers are NOT saving YOU money-- your hotel room or head of lettuce is NO cheaper to YOU... the lawbreaking employers are simply pocketing more profit at great citizen expense.

The above forces of evil are aided and abetted by the PC multicultural cabal, including the remote "elite" MSM, and the scandal-ridden Catholic Church trying to fill those vacant pews with better paying ILLEGALS.

Keep rattling the cages in Congress so the money flowing from the special interests will seem less "special" to them. It is easy to reach them at numbersUSA.com with prepared, targeted e-mails, OR you can send direct e-mails or call them at their official contact sites and offices just below. BOOKMARK these sites and contact legislators OFTEN and with vigor... tell them you support the SAVE Act:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/content/6/3105
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/congress/phone-numbers-an
d-mailing-addresses-memb.html
http://www.numbers.usa

other solid groups/sources of info:

http://www.teamamericapac.org/
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_aboutm ain
http://www.cis.org/
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/bg1936.cfm

Obeying Our Laws
This is our country,everyone must obey our laws,citizens or illegals.It's time to crack down NOW.
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