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Monday, June 09, 2008
Peter J. Wirs :: Townhall.com Columnist
Die Katze im Sack kaufen
by Peter J. Wirs
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Die Katze im Sack kaufen. (German). Kupic kota w worku. (Polish). Acheter chat en poche. (French). Dar gato por liebre. (Spanish). In plain English: Don’t buy a Pig-in-a-poke. That’s what you’re doing if you support Barak Obama for President.

The idiom "pig-in-a-poke" dates from the Late Middle Ages. When meat was in scarce supply, mischievous merchants would sell a suckling pig inside a poke (bag) to an unsuspecting shopper, who upon arriving home would discover she bought a cat, not a pig.

We have Obama’s slogan for Change. Indeed, the latest Gallup poll shows that 26% of Obama supporters stress that he would bring about change and a fresh approach. Yet, as the Wall Street Journal recently opined "The presidency has to be earned, and Americans have a right to know much more about [Obama] who is the least tested and experienced major party nominee in modern times."

Voters supporting Obama also emphasize that they do not want another Republican or a third Bush term (the latter, of course, echoes an often-heard refrain from Obama on the campaign trail) or agree with Obama’s policies. The balance of major responses are either the respondent always vote Democratic or a mere generic "Obama is the better candidate" response.

Of course, the overwhelming number of McCain supporters also don’t want a third Bush term. This is not asserting a oxymoron, but instead the very heart of what the McCain/ Republican/ Conservative battle cry should be: "Don’t replace Stupidity on the Right with Stupidity on the Left." (If you want a milder version, go with "Don’t replace Inexperience on the Right with Inexperience on the Left").

If Obama’s so-called Change means anything it is Neville Chamberlain Foreign Policy and Herbert Hoover Economics. Obama apparently wants to sit down with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Yea, and Kennedy sat down with Nikita Khrushchev. In case you missed that history lesson, everyone universally regarded the June, 1961 Vienna summit as a total American diplomatic failure. JFK was only able to eclipse the Vienna failure with his famed Cuban Missile crisis response, a crisis precipitated by Khrushchev’s misreading of Kennedy from his dismal performance in Vienna. If Ahmadinejad or another Islamic crackpot determines Obama is weak, will Obama be able to succeed ala another Cuban Missile Crisis response? Do we really want to run that risk?

And then take Obama’s Hoover Economics. Raising taxes and imposing tariffs is the bottom line why America plunged into the Great Depression. We need lower taxes, coupled with lower, much lower government spending. Less is best. Any fifth grader could figure this out.

And finally, just who is Barak Obama? What has he done? What has he accomplished? What achievement will stand the test of time? In time, we measure our politicians not by what they say but what they have accomplished. The more accomplished, the better. Look at our prior presidents. The successful ones had a resume. Reagan two terms as governor of the largest state in the Union. The first Bush as VP, UN Ambassador, CIA Director, envoy to China, and Member of Congress. Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Eisenhower, Truman, FDR. Even JFK had some experience behind, some exposure to the real world, first as a best-selling author, then as a PT boat captain, followed by service in both the House and Senate, including service on prestigious committees such as the McClellan committee.

Even the recently unsuccessful Presidents such as Carter and Clinton had some executive experience as governors before taking residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

What does Obama have to offer. Four years at the bottom rung of seniority in the U.S. Senate which includes the failure to preside over a single hearing as a minor subcommittee chairman, a post crafted for him on a silver platter, along with a couple years as a Illinois state senator. His campaign theme might as well be "but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!"

Compare that to John McCain. Military record. Member of Congress. U.S. Senate. Bills actually passed into law. (No matter if you agree or disagree with McCain-Feingold, at least he did something). Worldwide tours meeting heads of state.

The message is simple (or least it should be). In America, we don’t buy a pig-in-the-poke. On this count alone, Barak Obama should lose.

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Peter J. Wirs is currently the Chairman & Co-Trustee of the Republican Leadership Trust as well as the incoming President of the National Conference of Public Officials. The views and opinions found in this article represent the author's views and opinions and not those of any institution or organization with which the author is affiliated.
 
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Thanks again, Anna!
I'll check out the CFR info.

Cheers!

HEY, EVERYONE, KEEP HITTING "ONE STAR"!
PLEASE!!!

I beg you!

This drek is back up to three stars.

I'm pretty sure that here, as in Chicago, your vote will be counted more than once (although--unlike the Windy City, I don't think TH lets you vote if you're dead).

Hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, knowwhatImean, saynomore, saynomore . . .

This may interest you.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44 841

"Treasonous agenda of the Council on Foreign Relations"

There is a link in the above article to Barry Goldwater writings. Interesting.


http://www.augustreview.com/issues/regionalization/toward_a _north_american_union_200608181/

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html

Norman
Read the comments posted on the article.

Thanks for having an open mind. So few do. I highly encourage you to read everything Corsi has written. He is sane. He is also a Christian. He has no ax to grind. He wrote the Swift boat book.

Another good site is augustreview.com.

"The CFR is the establishment. Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also finances and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high-level decisions for converting the United States from a sovereign constitutional republic into a servile member of a one-world dictatorship." Former Congressman John R. Rarick

"Who are some of the past and present members of this anti-American operation? Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Porter Goss, Alan Greenspan, John Bolton, Paul Wolfowitz, Gen. Richard B. Myers, Henry Hyde, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George Bush Sr., Sandra Day O'Connor, George Soros, Christopher Dodd, Diane Feinstein, Gerald Ford, Bill Frist, Newt Gingrich, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Katherine Harris, Teresa Heinz, Antonia Hernandez – President of Mexican American "

cheers to you as well!

Anna
Thanks for the info. All I know about Kudlow is what I've read here on TH and elsewhere. I've read HIS stuff, but almost no commentaires on him.

I have a less-then-fully-informed, but decidedly negative, sense about the CFR. I'm always careful not to overreact (hard to believe, I know, considering how I haul off on Ol' Loppy here, but true nonethelesss); but clearly I need to educate myself further on the subject.

Thanks for the background info, and the link.

Cheers!

Norman
“For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the
whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.” Patrick Henry

There's a ton of information I could share with you.


This is how they have done it, one leg at a time.

"We are likely to do better by building our “house of world order” from the bottom up rather then from the top down… an end run around national sovereignty eroding it piece by piece, is likely to get us to world order faster than the old-fashioned frontal assault." Richard Gardner CFR



We shall have world government whether or not you like it-by conquest or consent. Paul Warburg (CFR member, before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Feb 17,1950 Also founder of Federal Reserve. He became a director of the CFR at its founding in 1921, remaining on the board until 1932.)


Norman
He is being disingenuous.

Did you read the comments? The truth is in the comments.

Buckelew esp has the credentials to back up his assertions.

Kudlow is CFR. I know you don't want to believe it, but believe me it's real.

I know that there are nutjobs who talk about the NAU, but there are also reputable people as well. Jerome Corsi being my favorite.

Bush has been holding summits on integration the last 4 years under SPP.

The bible predicts there will be one world gov and it is close. Israel becoming a nation set the timer. A couple of years ago when I first heard about the NAU, my blood literally ran cold. I expect the next president, whoever wins to preside over the end of this nation as we know it. As Christians we are to recognize the signs.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=436 95 (read his archives)

YOu are a smart guy, you need to know what is going on.

BTW, I am too tired to tackle it tonight, but I am on this tomorrow. His latest article...

"Big Mac: The Taxpayer-Friendly Candidate"

Kudlow used to shill for Enron!

Bob Munck
"The fast-approaching expiration of the Bush tax cuts was passed by Republican majorities in Congress and signed into law by a Republican president. When taxes go back up, it's the republicans who will have done it."

-- That's ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Because the Republicans voted to pass the cuts it's their fault that Democrats won't renew them. Your logic is flawless. Please tell us where you are teaching Govt classes so we can all sign up; please?

"In the unlikely event that McCain becomes president, how exactly would he prevent that expiration? Nothing to veto; it's already the law."

-- 1) That event is A LOT more likely than you realize. 2) There is no preventing the expiration, short of enacting legislation to make the changes permanent; and if you had done 2 minutes of research on why there is an expiration in the first place, you would know why.

Anna
I don't know whether or not you're still checking this thread, but I read the Kudlow article ("Coal-Cap Disaster").

The article itself seemed quite solid--and exactly the position I have come to expect from Kudlow.

So, is the point that he's a hypocrite, because he has expressed contradictory views elsewhere? That may well be, but otherwise I'm not seeing the problem.

Not being argumentative at all, by the way. I'm truly curious to understand more about why you dislike Kudlow.

Thanks.

GreenDay

GreenDay
Location: OH

Reply # 15
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 4:23 PM EST Subject: 1 vote
for space alien. Seriously, as Wirs begins to thin out, hair-wise, he will certainly take on the appearance of the mental creatures of Talos IV (of Star Trek fame). You can almost see the pulsating veins on his melon-shaped head. Wirs is like those beasts, lost as they were, without any direction towards external goals, living in a sort of a dream world, feeding off the memories of their zoo animals. Wirs is like these aliens as he sees no future direction for the GOP but liberal-leaning lassitude, so that feasting on the memories of Reagan and other dynamic past rational-thought conservatives is the only activity still able to provide any motivation to continue respirating.

~~~

Ah, yes. "The Menagerie" the First Star Trek Movie.

Would that I could have those mental powers!

The entire world would become conservative, quickly!


GreenDay...

GreenDay
Location: OH

Reply # 15
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 4:23 PM EST Subject: 1 vote
for space alien. Seriously, as Wirs begins to thin out, hair-wise, he will certainly take on the appearance of the mental creatures of Talos IV (of Star Trek fame). You can almost see the pulsating veins on his melon-shaped head. Wirs is like those beasts, lost as they were, without any direction towards external goals, living in a sort of a dream world, feeding off the memories of their zoo animals. Wirs is like these aliens as he sees no future direction for the GOP but liberal-leaning lassitude, so that feasting on the memories of Reagan and other dynamic past rational-thought conservatives is the only activity still able to provide any motivation to continue respirating.

~~~

Ah, yes. "The Menagerie" the First Star Trek Movie.

Would that I could have those mental powers!

The entire world would become conservative, quickly!


MRCMRC

"MRCMRC
Location: MN

Reply # 19
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 3:50 PM EST Subject: rat
it should be fairlyn obvious
=by now that a couple of things are true. i am a flaming liberal on what i was warned (exact word used) was a conservative site paid for by the heritage foundation.
imdont care.\
it should also be obvious that i will write what i write and what you write eill only affect me insofar as it has something material to say about that. if you get some vicarious satisfation fom wriing crap like that go ahead, but diont bet the bank on it having an affect on me . "

~~~
mrbumbr,

I do NOT dislike you! I DO NOT CARE whether you are any member of any group, that most people don't like. I am as tolerant of individuality as anyone you will ever encounter. Are you White? I don't care. Are you into beastiality? I don't care. Are you a Feminist? I don't care.

I, myself am bi-racial. I suspect you are also. Again, I don't care. We are all humans!

Please do not get me wrong. You do show promise, as you do have some good ideas. I do not agree with many of them, but, Who do you agree with 100%?

If you find that person, he, or she, will be a waste of time. You will never learn anything new, and you will become bored.

Actually, I like you. You have a few good ideas, other ideas you have, are not.
If you would like to, I am willing to work with you to help you become more effective in presenting your ideas.

Point 1. IF people do not understand what you are saying, it is a waste of time.

Point 2. Writing skills help a person to convey their ideas, when you cannot talk to them, face to face.

Please keep in touch, if you are willing to take some advice. Otherwise, I will continue to poke fun at you. I am not a vicious person, but, I cannot resist poking fun at someone who is determined to be contrary.

Friends?

Anna

Anna
Location: OR

Reply # 37
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 1:13 PM EST Subject: I love
P.G. Wodehouse!


"Sorry I'm late", he said. "I had to wait for Jeeves's brain to gather momentum. He was a little slower off the mark than usual"

"Did he click?"I cried, quivering in every limb.

"Oh , yes, he clicked. Jeeves alway clicks. But this time only after brooding for what seemed an eternity. I found him in the kitchen at your flat, sipping a cup of tea and reading Spinoza, and put our problem before him, bidding him set the little grey cells in operation without delay and think of some way of preventing your blasted aunt from fulfilling her evil purpose of coming to infest Deverill Hall....From time to time I would rise and look in at the kitchen and ask him how it was coming, but he motioned me away with a silent wave of the hand and let the brain out another notch. Finally he emerged and announced that he had got it. He had been musing, as always, on the psychology of the individual"
~~~

Anna, your subtle wit tickles me to no end!

I love that stuff as well as Norman's kick 'em and stomp 'em.

I haven't laughed this much since wirs' last column.

Hey Cap'n Wobbie!
Why don't you tell CVN65 about your heroic exploits as a Captain/O6 in the US Navy?

Are you:
a) Impersonating a naval officer?
Or
b) Violating the UCMJ by attacking the CINC while still a member of the armed forces?


Inquiring minds want to know!


(Too bad your post will be gone in a few hours, so I will soon appear to be boxing with a shadow--but that is after all what you are. A wraith, a hobgoblin, a Will O' the Wisp--forever banned, forever returning.)

Our twin village idiots--Wirs and Cap'n Wobbie!

(Hey Robert, do YOU have a loppy head, too?)

vote change
I think Rat's 7:55 post indicates that he has changed his vote from "space alien" to "mutant", so that the vote count is now:

4 - Mutant
1 - Space Alien
1 - Muppet

Either that or he was making fun us and Wirs at the same time - please correct me if I've misrepresented your position, Rat...

Chris
Thanks for picking up my slack on the vote count. I concur with your tally:

Weird Wirs is a:
Mutant (3)
Space Alien (2)
Muppet (1)


The "Muppet" answer was a brilliant write-in by FMO, and was implied in the following insired bit of Wirs-Bashing:

"You also have to respect the fact that when the Muppet Show was cancelled he didn't just give up, but tried to make something of himself."


Doesn't Wirs even know that he's lying bloody on the canvas, and we're all kicking him in the ribs--like DeNiro in "Goodfellas."

Weirdiwirs is truly a RINO for the ages. I didn't know that one person could TAKE this much abuse. After being the RINO waterboy for eastern PA for so many years, I guess he's used to being the runt of the litter . . .

CVN65
I admire your staunch anti-Wirsism. Truly.

I may play a cold-hearted b a s t a r d on TH, but sometimes I have trouble administering the coup de grace--that whole "but he's such a pathetic loser" thing just pulls me back.

Seriously though, you're right. Wirs is the enemy. He is one of what is now a fairly open cabal, trying to destroy conservatism once and for all.

Wirs delendus est. RINOs omni delendi sunt.

Perhaps mercy really IS a weakness (at least sometimes).

I am appropriately and well admonished. Thank you, brother.

"Faithful are the wounds of a friend."

I will reach deep and henceforth endeavor to raise my Wirs-bashing from merely 99 to 100 percent.


With liberals, it's always....
...style over substance, and that's why they love Obama. He's an empty suit, but oh the symbolism!

OhMy...
chris
Location: AL

Reply # 2
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 5:50 PM EST oops - vote count corrected
Sorry about that - something weird happened on my computer, so I didn't see the most recent 25 posts. The vote count is:

3 - Mutant
2 - Space Alien (or 4 if rat's counts 3 times)
1 - Muppet

~~~


G.D. I made an excellent case! Why can't you folks agree with me?

He IS an alien! Mutants have other features, such as a head, larger than a small body, extremely high foreheads, protruding ears, extremely wide mouths...



OH NO ! OHMYGOSH !!!! You are correct !!!! It is a mutant !!!!

I haven't been SOOO wrong, since yesterday!

I do stand corrected. My apologies, kind posters.




Ron, why not FairTax
Ron, why "one tax and done" rather than the FairTax, which incorporates the same concept, but does a better job encouraging domestic production, respecting privacy, and taxing profits from the black market?

CVN65


CVN65
Location: PA

Reply # 5
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 4:49 PM EST Subject: Ratas
I think that you fool yourself with mbrmbr. And I did mean agida, ask any old Italian what it means. As for me 1998-2003 (now in reserves) CDR, currently. BZ!

~~~

"I did mean agida, ask any old Italian what it means..."

Sorry Doc. You stumped me on this one.

Anyway, mrbumbr is a fun person, and I really think I am helping him make better posts.

He has shown tremendous improvement over the last several days,

He IS on the Fast Track !!!

I do not agree with much of what he says, but, now and then, he does have a great idea.

I believe he can be brought over to the "Dark Side" of conservativism. With a lot of work.

He seems to be fixated on Mr Obama, because of his "persona", but when mrbumbr ages for a while, I suspect, that he will see what most rational thinkers see.

Mr Obama is a great speaker, when reading a script. However, when you can engage him in ordinary conversation, he seems to be a bumbling fool.

Take away, the teleprompter, and Mr Obama sounds like many other, uneducated, high-school-drop-outs.

I think it is sad, that a fine young man, otherwise, has advanced, so far beyond his experience.

Please give him a few more years, to learn more about the real world, and he could be DYNAMITE !

By the way, when he talks, without a teleprompter, he sounds like a fool...


"uumm, you know, err, well, um, you know, but, my stand is... umm, you know..."











tax reform
We the people pay all taxes, and we are the sole ultimate source of all tax revenue. Regardless where government initially collects the money, all tax money ultimately comes from us, the people, even though business has to pay thousands or millions of dollars at one time, and get it back from us one dollar at a time.
Since we the people are the one and only source of all tax revenue:
There should be only one tax to collect all tax revenue.
It should be a single, simple, fair, direct, graduated, individual, full-income tax levied on living persons for each level of government: One Tax and Done.
The best thing that government can do to help the country, the people, and even government, is to repeal all of the many hundreds, or thousands of existing taxes, fees, and charges. These taxes are the federal deficit. These taxes are the high price of everything. These tax eliminations are spending cuts. Every tax that is eliminated is a tax that we the people no longer have to pay. These taxes are the difference between the price we pay for health care and everything else, and the price we would pay if these taxes were repealed. Eliminating these taxes will remove them from the price paid for everything by everyone, including government.
One Tax and Done will provide many benefits to all, even government:
One Tax and Done will end government-caused recessions because governments would cut off their only source of tax revenue.
One Tax and Done will stop reductions in tax revenue because people reduced their use of water, sewage, and other governmental services.
One Tax and Done will reduce the price paid for everything by one-third.

oops - vote count corrected
Sorry about that - something weird happened on my computer, so I didn't see the most recent 25 posts. The vote count is:

3 - Mutant
2 - Space Alien (or 4 if rat's counts 3 times)
1 - Muppet

the vote count
Norman,

If I read FMO's post right, and I'd like to think I did, the count is now:

2 - Mutant
1 - Space Alien
1 - Muppet

Ratas
I think that you fool yourself with mbrmbr. And I did mean agida, ask any old Italian what it means. As for me 1998-2003 (now in reserves) CDR, currently. BZ!

CVN65

CVN65
Location: PA

Reply # 1
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 4:16 PM EST Subject: Don't Feed the Trolls
Ratas, please don't do it. Their posts give me agida and eye strain. I mean, how could anyone issue forth so many misspellings and typos, not to mention the near-total lack of punctuation if not on purpose? If you ignore them, they might go away. Then we can back to the subject at hand- open season on RINOs.

~~~~

I trust you meant Angina...

Sorry, Doc, can't do it.

These fools are just SOOO much fun !

And, on a different note, I am working with one poster, "mrbumbr" , and, believe it or not, this fellow, is actually improving. There is hope in this world, after all !


(USN 1960 - 1966), FTG2... You Swabbies... GO, GO.

1 vote
for space alien. Seriously, as Wirs begins to thin out, hair-wise, he will certainly take on the appearance of the mental creatures of Talos IV (of Star Trek fame). You can almost see the pulsating veins on his melon-shaped head. Wirs is like those beasts, lost as they were, without any direction towards external goals, living in a sort of a dream world, feeding off the memories of their zoo animals. Wirs is like these aliens as he sees no future direction for the GOP but liberal-leaning lassitude, so that feasting on the memories of Reagan and other dynamic past rational-thought conservatives is the only activity still able to provide any motivation to continue respirating.

To All...

To all you fine people who are critiquing Mr Wirs.

Please pause a moment, and think, what a loss it would be if this fool were removed from TH.

This clown has provided more humor and entertainment than most other columnists.

He is OK in that regard.

Again, he has to be a space alien...



Don't Feed the Trolls
Ratas, please don't do it. Their posts give me agida and eye strain. I mean, how could anyone issue forth so many misspellings and typos, not to mention the near-total lack of punctuation if not on purpose? If you ignore them, they might go away. Then we can back to the subject at hand- open season on RINOs.

A BUG !!! Give up guys !

Can I vote twice, like the dems?

I swear, the clown is a space alien !

No one from Earth could be be so vapid and ignorant!

I mentioned the Movie "Men In Black".

I swear, this single movie, has convinced me !

Tommie Lee Jones, would smite this slug, and perhaps, even call him scurilous!

Definitely "A BUG" , I rest my case.


rat
it should be fairlyn obvious
=by now that a couple of things are true. i am a flaming liberal on what i was warned (exact word used) was a conservative site paid for by the heritage foundation.
imdont care.\
it should also be obvious that i will write what i write and what you write eill only affect me insofar as it has something material to say about that. if you get some vicarious satisfation fom wriing crap like that go ahead, but diont bet the bank on it having an affect on me . it doesnt , you havent shown me yet, although you have come close a couple o times, enough sense and rational thought for me to xare one wway or the other what you think of what i write. (Izsincerely hope you are not disliking ME. you dont know me. you certainly dont know that i have a conservative name which i use in these threads to play with the other side. so you can dislike anything you like but it wouod ba a big disappoinr=tment if you didnt like a ghost (ME). you dont even know whether im 12 years old or 102. man or woman or boy -or girl.straight or homosexual, bi tri etc. in effect you should feel constrained as alogical individual to comment to only comment on my writing. im sure youll make the effort who my conserbvative alter ego is. i promise i wont lie if you guess correctly as long as you dont shotgumn.
as for anne, unfotunately there is little that can be done for her. she has not denied it when i asked her if she had a long series of die=seases fless, crabs, numderous patrasites. so be evry careful,when you vusit her in that hoel room. just spray her all over with DDT and shell be all right. dont tounch her too much though. i dont think yioull be too tempted. well happy hunting, by the way i will promise thatif ther are at t least 10 threads i will be sure to include both liberal and conservative. oh you dont haveto play

Norman
To answer your question, "No". I keep reminding myself what his goal is: to soften us up and promote McCain. Insulting us didn't work and trying to shame or cajole us didn't either. Now they must be doing what Jerry Lewis did with his telethons- show us someone pathetic and hope for our support out of pity. It's nothing personal about Wirs, but a representative of Arlen Specter's brain trust (the other member is the guy who hands out paper towels in the men's room at the Senate Executive potty) ought to have a better grasp of spelling, grammar, syntax and content. He ought, at least, to be able to make an argument better than "you guys s uck if you don't support McCain" or "vote for McCain or you will be stuck with Obama". I have no doubt that you would be better suited to the task and you can't stand McCain. In fact, I would love to see that little love song. Have a great day, from your #1 fan.

Meanwhile, back at the article...
The question was; "what does Obama have to offer"? That's easy to answer.

Obama is a black liberal meaning he's right-brained and socialist. This means he'll do everything inefficiently or backward, and establish committees to figure out our needs to provide handouts, uh, I meant, "entitlements".

This guy with both his race and beliefs, is tantamount to a pope in the religion that is liberalism.

With Obama, it's free stuff for life, and he's a bona-fide brutha. Well, half of him is. But it really is that simple.

No one knows how all the free stuff will be paid for, but have faith, sheeple. He goan do it, and if you like third-world Detroit, you'll absolutely love brutha Obama.

As for McCain the RINO, I'll vote for him only because the middle east towel-heads fear his leadership. At least we'll be safe while lowering our standard of living.

Peter J. Wirs is an Idiot

"Of course, the overwhelming number of McCain supporters also don’t want a third Bush term"

"McCain/ Republican/ Conservative battle cry should be: "Don’t replace Stupidity on the Right with Stupidity on the Left.""

Peter J. Wirs is an Idiot.

His latest RINOGram proves that he doesn't have a clue what conservatism is, or who McCain is.

First of all: Of course, the overwhelming number of McCain supporters also don’t want a third Bush term.

McCain supporters are RINO's and big government liberals.

Bush has made a lot of mistakes, But at least he has made an honest effort of doing what is right for America.

McCain isn't qualified to clean Bush's dirty underwear.


Second of all: McCain, Republican & Conservative do not belong in the same sentence.

McCain is a lying liberal who wants big government/UN control of every aspect of our lives.(McCain-Fiengold, Cap& Trade, Open Borders)

The Republican Party has become the Liberal-Lite Party.They love to spend money and grow government. They think the only way to beat the liberals is to run a liberal against them.

If Obama was the Republican Nominee, Peter J. Wirs would be telling us how conservative Obama is and how we should all rally around and support him.

I do not vote for liberals, regardless of what logo they have by their name.

I do not vote for liberals, regardless of how many RINOs tell me that I must chose the lesser of two evils.

I do not donate money to Party's who run liberals or promote liberal policies.






Admirably Attuned . . .
. . . Allitertive Aspersions, FMO.

Friends fear not failure in the face of fearsome foes (or even Weird Wirs).


Peter J.'s PJ's
Pachyderm Print Dr. Denton's, I am willing to wager, and that Donald Lambro lounges in the same dubious duds, doubtless.

CVN65
You get my vote for:

"BEST NEW WIRS BASHING" with your reference to ol' Loppy as "The Assymetrical One."

Brilliant!!!

We're running dry on new material, so we need to encourage this sort of anti-Wirs innovation.


(I'm sorry, man. I know you're gonna call me a WHINO again, but I just gotta say something. This guy is taking it SO hard that it almost hurts ME, and I have NO feeling for him at all. Just the opposite. It's like watching somebody get grabbed by the hair and have his head slammed into the pavement, repeatedly. I just wanted to shame him into going away voluntarily, but he's a demented Energizer Bunny. He just keeps coming back for more. If he were a boxer, I'd be yelling, "STAY DOWN! THEY'RE GONNA PULVERIZE YOU!" So, I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel a little sorry for him. It's just brutal! I mean, I practically hear bones cracking when we go after ol' Loppy. Don't you EVER feel just the least bit sorry for this pathetic sacrificial lamb? It must be me. I guess there really IS a bleeding heart somewhere under that conservative exoskeleton of mine . . .)

Norman
Hey, pal, I'm still your #1 fan. Thanks for the missive; you are certainly not a WHINO. I had just thought of something that seemed kinda funny and wanted to use it a second time. Did you get my vote for "Mutant"?

VOTE UPDATE!!!
The vote of CVN65 for "mutant" changes the tally to:

Weirdiwris is a:
Mutant (3)
Space Alien (1)


KEEP THE VOTES COMIN'!
(If I missed your vote, please forgive my oversight and please bring the error to my attention, so that I can update our stats.)

AND KEEP HITTING "ONE STAR"!!!

THANKS!

Wirs
I for one will be very disappointed if he goes away.

He gives us so much to work with.

this is interesting
Our country needs a solid group who really understand how our money is manipulated and what the solutions are, because if a depression comes, there will be those who will come forward advancing solutions framed by the international bankers.

Beware of calls to return to a gold standard. Why? Simple. Because never before has so much gold been so concentrated outside of American hands. And never before has so much gold been in the hands of international governmental bodies such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. In fact, the IMF now holds more gold then any central bank.

The Swiss are under intense pressure from the Money Changers to dispose of their gold. This is most likely either a prelude to the complete demonetization of gold (like silver before it), or to its monopoliation and remonetization by the Money Changers.

Therefore, to return to a gold standard would almost certainly be a false solution in our case. As was repeated in the Great Depression: "In gold we trusted; by gold we're busted."

Likewise, beware of any plans advanced for a regional or world currency - this is another international banker's Trojan Horse - a deception to open the national gates to more international control.


http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/money-masters.html

"The Money Masters: How International Bankers Gained Control of America"


Bankers and multi-national co. are working in concert.

This election was over before it even got started.


I have to get to work!


CVN65 (2 of 2)
CONT.


And he started down the path toward second-class stoogehood, back seat toadyism, and shameless, unprincipled boot licking.

Here he is today: No degree, no grasp of the English language, no backbone, no integrity.

The dye was cast, decades ago, on that fateful day . . .

So that, dear DVN65, is why Weirdiwirs has both my pity and my grudging "admiration" for the lofty heights he has attained from so low a station.

Judge me, if you dare!!!

Brand me a WHINO (Wirs-Hater-In-Name-Only), if you MUST!

Here I stand. I can do no other.


FIN

CVN65 (1 of 2)
You caught me again. Gotta get up pretty early in the morning to slip one past you.

I hope to avoid the WHINO appellation this time ‘round, but you’ve got me pegged.

The truth is that Wirs is inspirational, in a perverse sort of way. He is living(?) proof to cowardly toadys everywhere that they too can reach the high summit of the world-renowed Philadelphia Republican "Machine."

(Well, it's actually not a real political "Machine," a la Chicago/Daley Dynasty. It's more like more like a bottle opener, or maybe a rusty old weed whacker with a bad choke.)


One day, long ago, the blue bloods hanging out at the 19th hole noticed this backwoods, hillbilly-bred "arriviste" polishing the mahogany bartop, keeping their martini glasses filled, and generally trying to rise about his station, despite his many, and all-too-obvious shortcomings.

He just put his little Kilroy of a nose on top their windowsill of privilege so many times, that they threw the guy a bone.

Or so he thought.

I can see it now, sixty years ago, when the youngest notary public in PA history hit paydirt.

“Hey there, young Wires. Come on over here! Have a seat, lad!”

“Me, sir?! Why THANK you! My name is ‘Wirs,’ not 'Wires,' though, sir. My name is Peter Wi . . .”

“Yes, yes, Paddy--fine Irish lad! Odd head, though! Well never mind that! Sit down my boy, sit down. How are you, how are you, yes, yes. See gentleman, this is the young man I was talking to you about. Youngest notary in history! Graduated in the top 25% of East Philadelphia Tech. This is a young man with ambition. He’s going places, I tell you!”

“Why, thank you sir, I don’t know what to . . .”

“Now, listen Pritchard . . .”

“Um, it’s ‘Peter,’ sir . . .”

“Of course it is, Paulie, of course. Now see here, we’ve a little proposition for you . . .”


CONT.

It is so obvious
"We need lower taxes, coupled with lower, much lower government spending. Less is best. Any fifth grader could figure this out."

Any fifth grader! Exactly! Which is why I believe that the real agenda of the Left is to destroy America. Political careers aside, I think the upper echelons on the Left want the destruction of the United States more than they want anything.

We continually hear people like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama described as “intelligent”, and yet, they and all their supporters advocate a philosophy that will bring about the economic and political collapse of this country.

So, the question begs to be asked, are they stupid, or do they want something so vile that no one can even dare to think it?



the Fed
I can't find the stats on how they constricted the money supply. dang

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is master of all it's legislation and commerce." James Garfield



Congressman Louis McFadden, the Chairman of the House Banking and Currency committee from 1920 to 1931 remarked that the Federal Reserve Act brought about:

"A super state controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure."

"In the United States today we have in effect two governments ... We have the duly constituted Government ... Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money powers which are reserved to Congress by the Constitution."



...
"But would some of the richest men in the world financially back communism, the system that was openly vowing to destroy the so called capitalism that made them wealthy? Communism, like plutocracy, is a product of capitalism. Researcher Gary Allen explained it was this way:

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool for power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."


Tariffs or money supply?
Remarks by Governor Ben S. Bernanke
At the Conference to Honor Milton Friedman, University of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois
November 8, 2002

On Milton Friedman's Ninetieth Birthday

Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve.
I would like to say to Milton and Anna:
Regarding the Great Depression.
You're right, we did it.
We're very sorry.
But thanks to you, we won't do it again.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/BOARDDOCS/SPEECHES/2002/20021 108/default.htm


from another poster...


Not a single Tariff before 1930 caused a ripple of depression, and to say Smoot-Hawley was the cause is lying.

We have the Head man of the Federal Reserve accepting blame and some of you still want to deny it and blame Smoot-Hawley.
Transparent lie in view of all these Tariffs of former years and no such distress as the Great Depression happened.

1890: McKinley .... no depression
1894: Wilson-Gorman .... no depression
1897: Dingley... no depression
1909: Payne-Aldrich... no depression
Underwood Tariff of 1913 .... no depression
1922: Fordney-McCumber ...no depression

1930: Smoot-Hawley ...no depression

Bankers cutting off all loans and cash (liquidity) and the Great Depression.



"The Federal Reserve System is a legal private monopoly of the money supply operated for the benefit of the few under the guise of protecting and promoting the public intent."
Anthony Sutton


Obama Carter redux
No doubt, except much further on the continuum.

He is endorsed by Brezinzski.

“There is a need for a fundamental rethinking of how we conduct world affairs,” he added. “And Obama seems to me to have both the guts and the intelligence to address that issue and to change the nature of America’s relationship with the world”



More words of wisdom by Brezinzski...

Brezinzski wrote..."people, governments and economies of all nations must serve the needs of multinational banks and corporations". He dismissed the constitution as "inadequate".

"the old framework of international politics, with their spheres of influence...the fiction of sovereignty...is clearly no longer compatible with reality," and proposed "the approaching 200th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence could justify the call for the national constitutional convention to re-examine the nations formal institutional framework...to discuss the relevance of existing arrangements".

I love
P.G. Wodehouse!


"Sorry I'm late", he said. "I had to wait for Jeeves's brain to gather momentum. He was a little slower off the mark than usual"

"Did he click?"I cried, quivering in every limb.

"Oh , yes, he clicked. Jeeves alway clicks. But this time only after brooding for what seemed an eternity. I found him in the kitchen at your flat, sipping a cup of tea and reading Spinoza, and put our problem before him, bidding him set the little grey cells in operation without delay and think of some way of preventing your blasted aunt from fulfilling her evil purpose of coming to infest Deverill Hall....From time to time I would rise and look in at the kitchen and ask him how it was coming, but he motioned me away with a silent wave of the hand and let the brain out another notch. Finally he emerged and announced that he had got it. He had been musing, as always, on the psychology of the individual"

Obama is the youngest candidate...
...with the oldest ideas.

Hillary delenda est.

Hey Norman!
Your #1 fan here. I referencing your 11:07 post, I discovered an oddly positive note to Wirs. Something about almost admiring his perseverence. This has got to stop. I cannot tell you the pain it caused me to label you a WHINO last week; I can't do it again. Seriously, strong work; I only read articles by The Asymmetrical One to enjoy your rebuttals. I vote mutant, by the way; an advanced space alien breed would do a much better job at blending in physically. No deal, McCain!

Correction to my Previous Post
". . . while you're deliberating . . ."

My brain works faster than my fingers (which isn't saying much, alas!).

MMC


Norman, and Jeeves...

Norman. Dang it. I thought this was a contest. You have hurt my feelings.

I thought we could go head-to-head, and really come up with some good ones. clearly, though, you have me 'whupped' GOOD JOB !

~~~

Jeeves,

Thank you for the historical references. That's neat.

~~~

Norman, You are a tough case! I AM GLAD I AM NOT WIRS!
If I were, I would have a vasectomy, so you would 'Lay-Off'. Oh heck, scratch that. He already had that operation. Just guessing, from his writings.

Dang it! I thought I offered good evidence that he is an alien, not quite comfortable in his new skin. Ever watch "Men In Black" ?

I loved the character who was the "BUG". I did a fair imitation of him, and cracked up everyone who heard it. "...From my cold, dead hands". Bug, "That is acceptable... slurp..."



Dear All
Mr. Wirs deserves credit. He provides consistent opportuntiy for much needed comic relief.

You also have to respect the fact that when the Muppet Show was cancelled he didn't just give up, but tried to make something of himself.

I take comfort in the fact that so many have broken the code.

However, Taft brought up President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Mahmoud and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Malaki now have chats in Bagdhad. Something like this never could have taken place under Saddam. Somehow Mr. Wirs could put a positive spin on this vis-a-vis the efforts of the last five years and three months in Iraq.

If he can rationalize McCain-Feingold, what can he not rationalize. If McCain picks Michael Bloomberg as his VP, Wirs will spin this as an effort to shore up the base.

This is what comes of watching too much Barney.

Mutant:2 Alien:1
Although I strongly and respectfully disagree with my learned colleague, Ratas y Ratones, we now have one vote for Weirdiwirs as a Space Alien.

Any other votes?


While you're deliberately, please remember to vote "one star" early and often!

We had it down to two stars, but now it's back up to three.

And we we doing SO well . . .




Jeeves
You're not a butler by chance, or perhaps a slightly out-of-date search engine?

:-)

Seriously now, such learned eloquence, in this Romper Room of childish Wirs-bashing (in which I am one of more rambunctious ADHD children off his Ritalin).

Thanks you, sir. I knew the basics that Weirdiwirs had in his RINO-dropping, but after reading your comment I can now say that I learned something today.

Cheers!

Jerseyvet--NR, Nest of Necons
In re National Review.

Jonah Goldberg is on record as favoring both reparations for slavery, and a Democrat running mate for John McCain. (On the plus side, I understand that his "Liberal Fascism" is excellent.)

John Derbyshire is a cranky old paleocon who sees a rain cloud inside of every silver lining.

David Frum, as Bush's speech-writer, was largely responsible for Bush's lurch to the neo-con mushy middle.

Rich Lowry, who now runs the show, shows very little in the way of conservative backbone.

As a group, the NR folks are heavy on wonkish policy prescriptions, and rather light on promoting the principles of "three-leg" Reagan conservatism.

Since libs are the ones who love five point programs and the like, conservatives who buy into that way of looking at things are likely to remain conservative very long.

None of this should come as any surprise, given that most of these folks breathe the rarified air of the NY-DC salons.

The fact that you are linking your defense of NR to your even more tepid defense of McCain is telling. NR is still more conservative than McCain, but so the NY Post--so that's not saying much.

McCain will cave to the libs in Congress, and the conservative movement will take the blame for the next four years (which are going to be abysmal, not matter whom we elect).

Hunker down, vote for real conservatives, and work toward better days.

Rewarding the RI-NO-P for nominating a liberal with an "R" after his name is unthinkable, if one values the long-term viability of conservatism over the short-term prospect of electing a feckless RINO.

Pigs and Cats (for Ratas)
Maybe the English never thought of cats, unlike their continental counterparts.

From Charles Earl Funk's book, A Hog On Ice: "Other languages have similar expressions, all dealing with the folly of buying something that one has not seen. In England, from time immemorial, it has been a pig, a young or suckling pig in a bag, for in ancient days the term 'pig' was used only of very young swine, three or four months old, and still small enough to be carried to market slung over the shoulder in a stout 'poke,' the old-fashioned name for a bag smaller than a sack. The peasantry was apparently not above taking a runt to market and trying to sell it without opening the bag, because, as was undoubtedly the excuse, everyone knew how hard it would be to catch the piglet if it got loose. But the peasantry was also not above other tricks. Some investigators into bygone practices allege that, instead of a runt, it was a cat that was offered to the unwary customer. This view is supported by the French saying, 'acheter chat en poche (to buy a cat in a sack)," a saying used, in translation, by John Wyclif in the fourteenth century. A canny purchaser, doubting the integrity of the dealer, however, might refuse to buy without an examination of the contents, thus giving rise to the related saying, 'to let the cat out of the bag.'"

Ratas y Ratones
As I've written previously, no competition here, my friend. We're all on the same team. I'm thinking of having T-shirts made with a picture of he-of-the-crooked-head inside one of those red circle with the diagonal line through it--like on "Ghostbusters."

"We ain't fraid of no Wirs!"

I'll be they'd sell like hotcakes.

Nice posts, and a fun Wirs-bash was had by all.

It's gotten to the point that most people on the thread don't even mention the article.

I avoided doing so this time, because this one was almost on the 7th grade level, and its grammar was only "awful," rather than the usual "horrendous."

Still, ol' Loppy keeps comin' back for more. If I didn't have such deep and abiding contempt for him and all he stands for, I might almost muster some sympathy for the poor sap.

Norman


Okay, I concede, you won this one hands down!

Excellent job, I might add. After being Awake, since Noon yesterday, and working a 12 hour shift to help support those on welfare who are to lazy to work, I cannot keep up.

I suspect that normal people give this clown a one checkmark, and "abby-nermal" people give him five checkmarks. Don't know.

Anyway, I hope we can be online the same time, when "Our Hero" writes his next "clum". I can't call it a column, even with the great improvement over his last.

Cheers!


Anyone, Seriously...

Die Katze im Sack kaufen. (German). Kupic kota w worku. (Polish). Acheter chat en poche. (French). Dar gato por liebre. (Spanish). In plain English: Don’t buy a Pig-in-a-poke. That’s what you’re doing if you support Barak Obama for President.

A question, seriously, why is it called a "pig-in-a-poke" when in all those cute foreign languages, it is a "cat-in-the-bag" ?

Why is it not "a-cat-in-the-bag" in English? Does anyone have an answer for this?

i be cornfussed hoosier...


mrbumbr...

Ratas y Ratones
Location: IN

Reply # 37
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 9:05 AM EST Subject: MRCMRC

"Location: MN

Reply # 26
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 5:38 AM EST egon
name your sources. i believe you are either exaggerating the remarks of one or two people out ot 330,000,000 or lying. you can make a complet fool, out of me by quoting your sources.

~~~

Sorry, egon has been beaten to the task :

"you can make a complet fool, out of me..."

by yourself. Hey, Good job.
We all knew you could do it."

~~~

OK, mrbumbr, I see where you got confused about the meaning of this.

The funny little marks " and " indicates the start and finish of a quote. This time, by you. I quoted your words, and added a comment, indicating, you did a better job of making a "complet [sic] fool, out of..." YOU, yes you.

Oh, and the funny [sic], means I left the spelling as it was.

You're welcome.


mrbumbr,

mrbumbr,

I know your reading comprehension is sub par. Please forgive me for not being more direct.

The poster "egon" will have a hard time making a bigger fool of you, than you have done for yourself, with every post you make.

Is that more clear?



I do see you took my advice and dicovered your "space-bar", that very long key at the bottom of your keyboard.

Next week, we continue our tutoring, with learning to use the "shift" key. This concerns capitalizing certain letters to improve readability.

OK, Lesson #1 At the beginning of every new sentence, use the shift key as you type the first letter of the sentence.

OK, I do not wish to tax you. That's it for this lesson.


And, again,
Good job so far.


Next Time you Fill Up the SUV..
"This latest confrontation with the U.S. should have been the capper to a bad winter for Ahmadinejad. Strangely, though, it may instead have brought about an upturn in his fortunes. Soon, oil prices started to rise, jumping twenty per cent in just two weeks. As a result, the Iranian regime suddenly has an extra twenty million dollars or so to spend every day, a windfall that will help Ahmadinejad to placate his critics and solve some of his country’s more pressing economic problems.
The jump in oil prices wasn’t entirely a geopolitical phenomenon—the cold snap in the U.S. was also a big factor—but it was driven in part by an increase in what oil traders call the “risk premium.” When buying and selling oil, traders don’t just look at today’s supply and demand. They also try to forecast the future. And if buyers think there’s a chance that supply is going to be lower down the line—because, say, Iranian oil fields will be shut down—they will be willing to pay a higher price today in order to guarantee that they will have the oil they need. "

mrbumbr,

mrbumbr,

I know your reading comprehension is sub par. Please forgive me for not being more direct.

The poster "egon" will have a hard time making a bigger fool of you, than you have done for yourself, with every post you make.

Is that more clear?

I do see you took my advice and dicovered your "space-bar", that very long key at the bottom of your keyboard.

Next week, we continue our tutoring, with learning to use the "shift" key. This concerns capitalizing certain letters to improve readability.

Good job so far.


Norman

HAY Norman, lest I forget. Congrats on that 1066 thang, and the Battle of Hastings.

I know, John Bull had been ravaged by
I know, John Bull had been ravaged by Viking raids for a long time prior, and was severely weakened, but you still did a good job.

Sadly, John Bull has now mutated into Joan Cow.


Anyway, you have done a similar job on this guy.



Cuban Missile Crises
This revisionist history is counting on readers to be lazy and stupid. Kruschev was a moron who liked to take off his shoes and make big noises. When JFK decided to put nuclear missiles under the USSR's belly in Turkey, Kruschev wanted to even out the game. Thank God there wasn't a president Cheyne around then! As for talking with Iran, its just more stupid rw nuttiness. Israel is talking to Syria and Our man in Iraq is talking with Iran, we are being left out and gas prices are souring because this war talk make the gas prices go way, way UP.

NR vs. Neocons
A subscriber to National Review for many years, I would like someone to explain to me how it has changed. After all, Ronald Reagan was National Review's candidate and the magazine writers and editors all assiduously worked for his election.

I know John Derbyshire is an agnostic but he still supports conservative principles by and large. There's no question NR regularly publishes the best conservative articles. I'm not familiar with the Weekly Standard but I do understand that neocons write for that publication and I do understand that their articles reflect an allegiance to Israel.

But Israel is the canary in the mine and if it is destroyed we know we are next. I believe that Obama, despite his appearance and testimony before the Israeli lobbyist group, is not really a friend of Israel because of years of propagandizing by Rev. Wright and the liberation theology nutcases, one of whose bugbears is Israel.

Conservatives do not have a good choice this year. But an old warrior is better than an untested tyro who has never managed to escape from the prickly thickets of real and imagined racial complaints while the rest of us just want to move on and continue to grow an economy that helps everyone climb out of poverty.


.

Good article, but the problem
is that after 8 years of Bush, a lot of poeple are looking around and thinking I (or my Mom/Dad) would be a better President than Bush. In that context, people don't really care that much about experience.

r and r
what in the world does"sorry egon has been beaten to the task" mean? does this sentence make sense to you who or what is an egon. you should proof your letters before you send them ask anne she knows all about that. egon

And another thing...

Mr. weird, is sheisstenkoff a genuine German word?

I am not sure, and I have no sure method of verifying this, but I did hear the word many years ago.

IF, and that's a big IF, it means what I think, then this surely describes you.

OBTW, what part of the Quadrant is your home planet in?

Is it part of The United Federation Of Planets, or the Klingon Empire?

Just curious.



Norman


Norman, Norman. Hmmpf you are incorrigible, and funnier than I can believe !

Sadly, I just got off a 12 hour shift, and can't access or post from work.

I missed the best time, and with your lead, I'll probably never catch up.

I will, however, attempt to add some mild humor to bring the other posters down off their euphoric glee.



Mr. weird,

Mr. weird, I am ashamed that the poster, "Norman" would call you a mutant.

It is obvious to me that you are a Space Alien, and it simply takes time to learn to disguise yourself as a Human, after assimilation of same.

I offer this evidence... This column sounds a tiny bit more rational than the last.

I believe that within 20 years or so, you might pass for a liberal-leftie-commie.

Good luck, and do get back with us when you succeed.



MRCMRC

Location: MN

Reply # 26
Date: Jun 9, 2008 - 5:38 AM EST egon
name your sources. i believe you are either exaggerating the remarks of one or two people out ot 330,000,000 or lying. you can make a complet fool, out of me by quoting your sources.

~~~

Sorry, egon has been beaten to the task :

"you can make a complet fool, out of me..."

by yourself. Hey, Good job.
We all knew you could do it.


Obama is Democratic nominee
Obama is the Democratic nominee not because his 'marxism' or his blatant 'racism' or his 'islamic ties' are overlooked.

Obama is the Democratic nominee because he is a 'Marxist and 'racist' and has strong 'islamic' ties.

Democrats should be bold enough to have the campaign slogan "Destroy America 08".

Obama and Naivety
“I am decisively announcing to the whole world that if the world-devourers [i.e., the infidel powers] wish to stand against our religion, we will stand against their whole world and will not cease until the annihilation of all them. Either we all become free, or we will go to the greater freedom which is martyrdom. Either we shake one another’s hands in joy at the victory of Islam in the world, or all of us will turn to eternal life and martyrdom. In both cases, victory and success are ours.”
–Ayatollah Khomeini
================================================

What will Obama the Appeaser sy to this threat?

"I am all ears."

Obama has NO experience in providing security for this Nation or any resolve to provide security.

The Ayatollah will not 'faint' or have 'involuntary orgasms' in the prescence of Obama only disdain for the Obama apostate from Islam.

A brief pause in this bash fest...
although it has been fun in reading some of the creative offerings.

I believe the Constitution needs to be amended to change the minimum age requirement for president. It currently is 35 but I feel it would be better to have that raised to 55 or even 60. We live longer now and an ex-president like Carter is certainly a pain in the a**.

Now we return you to the bash fest already in progress.

Has Wirs hired a ghostwriter?
--
While still present, the number of grammatical errors have dropped off significantly, and there's actually something resembling a framework of lucid argument in this yutz's yet-another-McCainiac shovelful of bullpuckey.

Assuming that we're *NOT* reading the pure-quill Wirs we've all come to know and love, let's take the present ghostwriter to task.

It is unlikely that - even with a Congress firmly in the hands of the Evil Party - a President Barack Hussein would be capable of "[r]aising taxes and imposing tariffs" to the degree managed by the Hoover administration.

First, Herbert Hoover's mistakes were predestined by a series of Rotarian Socialist (read: "Republican") congresses that had been working to jack up tariffs since well before 1921. The egregious Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was chugging out of the roundhouse in 1927, and was actually handed to Hoover after he had asked for a *reduction* in tariffs.

High tariffs, "infrastructure" and "farm bill" boondoggles, currency inflation, and corporate welfare have been GOP objectives ever since Abraham Lincoln was registered as a Whig.

Not that I consider the Evil Party any better, but you've got to acknowledge and deal with the warts on your own side before you start talking about the cancer your enemies represent.

The better comparison to draw with regard to Mocha Marvin (the Mulatto Miracle) is Jimmy Carter.

Despite his tenure as governor of Georgia, Carter's sole advantage in '76 was that he came to the election as absolutely unknown throughout four-fifths of the nation. This against a weak Republican candidate (Gerald Ford) tarred with the reeking pitch of an odious predecessor (Nixon) who had unarguably run the nation into the proverbial ditch.

For Carter now substitute "Obama." For Ford, read: "McCain," and for Nixon insert "Dubbya."

And you've got it. 1976 redux.

--

Constitutionality Fraud
Obama the teacher of law. Clinton was a con-law proff. Libs have little use for the written law as demonstrated by their unending champion of federal supremacy in all areas of life (except porn - that gets a free pass.)

Yet this gem remains unamended in the Constitution, _as written_,

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Show me a Dem who cares a wit about that. Flexible, "living" law is what they have in mind.

Gambles and Lies
Contemporary socialism itself is a lie. It is a large package of promises including a top-down, heavy management scheme that has consistently proven a failure, but only where tried. Given the last 90 years of demonstration, anyone still peddling it is, or ought to be, aware of the false promises they make. Obama may well be ignorant of the failings of his sensibilities. We'll all suffer mightily should he gain power.

Personally, I see McCain as a shoe-in, even if unenthusiastically so. I'd rather another choice - call it a "change" - but it is not forthcoming. Unless the vote is rigged (or sued out of existence in close contests) Obama will fail utterly in November.

: “Review Bush Constitutionality”


Obama says he would ask his AG to review all of the laws and executive orders executed under the Bush administration for constitutionality. Isn’t this music to the ears of those who routinely scream about constitutionality? Has John “I’ve changed my mind, Bush-style torture is actually OK” McCain made the same pledge?

Reuters: Maybe it’s his background teaching constitutional law. If elected president, Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama said one of the first things he wants to do is ensure the constitutionality of all the laws and executive orders passed while Republican President George W. Bush has been in office. Those that don’t pass muster will be overturned, he said.

read more

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/obamas-1st-100-day s

Our Beloved Republic will survive.
On the disastrous Bush legacy and apprehension some folks want change from that era so much they'll opt for the inexperienced and leftist Obama, I was smitten with Wirs' suggestion to McCain campaign: "Don't Replace Stupidity on the Right with Stupidity on the Left".

Catchy.

On Khrushchev's "sizing up" of JFK, it was not only the Vienna summit but also the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion attempt that convinced Khrushchev he could bully JFK(on missile crisis).

And the U.S. did guarantee it would never invade Cuba, and did remove missiles from Turkey.

So I ain't sure Khrushchev got that bad of a deal.

Ahmadinejad has not one nuke.

Khrushchev had lots.

And the same arguments some now make on the "nutty and unstable" Ahmadinejad, were made a year or so ago on Kim Jong-il of North Korea.

Most intel now concludes Kim Jong-il does have a number of nukes.

I agree we should do all we prudently can to keep Iran from obtaining nukes.

But I'm not ready to throw in towel, declare Armageddon is upon us and the world is at an end, if Iran does get a few nukes.

Nut-case Kim Jong-il has not nuked anyone yet.

And you can't tell me he was not considered as loony as Ahmadinejad.

Norman(post #23): I fear NR has been infected somewhat by that same toxic neocon virus that so damaged the Bush whitehouse, but compared to "Weekly Standard", the "National Review" at least periodically tries to mount a defense against this pernicious virus(which has totally taken over at Weekly Standard).


Another Attack On Weirds
Pete, your fabulous grasp of languages is astounding but your collection of thoughts about McShame is dreadful. McCain really did something -- as mentioned, McCain-Feingold, plus McCain-Kennedy. What more could voters want unless they were for more lobbyists and 527s, and for more money to the "educators" so they can teach mooslim studies. The old saying, Pete, if you can't say anything nice about someone, say nothing -- about McShame and Obamamama.

Of course!
President-Elect Obama is a gamble, but so was Lincoln.

I hardly think we can rely on resumes any more after this looser administration.

I'm going with judgment: and Obama had the judgment to realize that we were all being lied to about the war.

egon
name your sources. i believe you are either exaggerating the remarks of one or two people out ot 330,000,000 or lying. you can make a complet fool, out of me by quoting your sources.

Schadenfreude
Even some friends overseas, who never liked the US of A, have begun asking: "Has America really dumbed down this much"? The signs are unmistakable. While we tend to glorify dopey dumb sluts such as Lohan, Spears, Hilton and so many others such as hundreds of TV commentators,no wonder our collective judgement in choosing our politicians is becoming a total disaster. They see Obama as the beginning of the end to America's freedom and prosperity and, for now, seem happy about it. They will be sorry if it does, indeed happen.

Anna--National Review
The late, lamented Mr. Buckley rightly gets the lion's share of credit for "standing athwart history yelling 'STOP'!" at the encroachment of liberalism, but I don't think he ever entirely escaped his own blue-blood education, background, and contacts. He was a great and brilliant man, and, if he was not always a "conservative's conservative," he did a great deal of good for the conservative movement, which would not have been possible without him.

That said, National Review has been trending leftward for a number of years now. Neocons like David Frum and Paleocons like John Derbyshire are fighting for editorial lebensraum with folks like Jonah Golberg (the author of "Liberal Fascism," who is actually a fairly reliable conservative but is subject to the occasional rectal-cranial infarction--as when he recently suggested that McCain pick a DEMOCRAT or Veep--jeepers, creepers!)

I think that Buckley's successor, Rich Lowry, is both in over his head and is at best a neocon. NR used to be my favorite conservative journal, but I let my subscription lapse some time ago, and now I rarely even check their website--which used to be a daily pilgrimage for me.


ONE STAR, FOLKS, ONE STAR!!!
Wirs has THREE stars, everyone!

Please, please, please, hit that "one star."

We've got to get this down to two stars, at least.

Thanks!!!

Anna
Yes, I am one of those TULIP Calvinists (an Orthodox Presbyterian, to be precise).

It is easy to get caught up in conspiracy-theorizing (not saying you've done so, of course, just making the obvious point that it's easy to do).

As I leave early middle age and approach its "center of mass" I become more, not less, sanguine about the prospects for our beloved, God-blessed country. I honestly do not know WHY God takes it so easy on us--blessing us far more than we deserve, both individually and as a nation--and I do fear sometimes that He will let us be carried off into our own Babylonian captivity.

I don't think that will happen, at least not for long, and even if it does, I believe He will send us a Darius to loosen the fetters of our self-imposed slavery.

So be of good cheer, sister. All will NEVER be entirely right with the world, but neither will He allow everything to go entirely wrong, either.

Cheers! ;-)

Hey, Wirs!
I guess some new polling data came out, huh?

Found out that you couldn't win without us, right? Well, the RI-NO-P has lost me already.

I have changed party affiliation to Libertarian. Bob Barr will be getting my vote in November no matter WHAT Melanoma Man does.

Too little, too late.

Nice job, though, trying to convince conservatives not to vote for Obama!

Yeah, that's really likely. I'll bet you're in the habit of bringing coal to Newcastle, eh?

Do you also routinely admonish Roman Catholics NOT to make the pilgrimage to Mecca?

Or lecture Britney Spears fans on the dangers of chastity?

Talk about preaching to the bloody choir!

I have--seriously now--NEVER, ever, not ONCE in my longish life encountered anyone as obstinately, persistently, and doggedly clueless as you.

That's why I believe that you are a mutant, rather than a space alien. No one who managed to get here from another planet could be this plain dumb.

Let me explain it to you S-L-O-W-L-Y.

The problem is not that we like Obama. We don't. We think he's a airheaded socialist clown.

The danger for you RINO's is that that we loathe McCain (and, in an inversion of a common Christian prayer, we loathe him, because he loathed us first).

GOT IT NOW?!


Bob Barr '08!

Vote early and (if in Chicago) often!

...
Angelina is stunningly beautiful, and into being a mother which impresses me. It was disappointing, but not surprising I guess that she buys into the delusion about the "new world order".

I noticed on a different thread that you are a Christian? The world does fall for the delusion of the anti-christ.


You are more optimistic than I am about an Obama presidency. I have been reading all I can on the NAU and it is well advanced. 2010 is their latest stated goal and I will be surprised if they don't make it. I think we are in a perilous condition. I am not sanquine about getting our Republic back once we lose it.
Can God bless America?

I think I am ruining the fun.....sorry to be serious.

Bash on.


In Case My Earlier Post Gets Pulled. . .
Here's an abbreviated, PC version . . .
******************************

Hey, Wirs! It's official!


You are an (expletive deleted--meaning "person of less than optimal intellect who may or may not suffer from a congenital condition affecting IQ and normal higher-order brain functions").

I don't generally stoop to personal attacks of this sort, but when the (RINO) horn fits, wear it.

How you manage to maintain your (offensive phrase deleted--meaning "anatomically unlikely if not impossible contortion in which the subject's head either enters his rear-end or where the head and rear-end exchange positions--whether temporarily or permanently).


(Long live the First Amendment!)


Brutus
“One of the most curious publications to join the list of CFR interlocked journals is the ostensibly conservative magazine National Review. Although National Review has in the past claimed to be an opponent of the Eastern Liberal Establishment, it has never called attention the conspiratorial activities of the Rockefeller Dynasty- and, it fact, has bitterly ridiculed anyone who suggested that there were any conspiratorial wolves mixed in with the Liberal sheep. Many well-informed conservatives were puzzled by National Review’s refusal to consider the possibility that most of the liberal “mistakes” the magazine decried were actually carefully planned and deliberate acts; their bewilderment is bound to increase when they learn that editor-in-chief William F. Buckly,Jr., who has boasted of his personal friendship and warm admiration for such important insiders as Henry Kissinger (uber globalist), and who enthusiastically endorsed Nelson Rockefeller for Secretary of Defense, is himself a member of the Counsel on Foreign Relations.” Gary Allen

Kudlow and their ilk
Here's what gets me about Kudlow and his ilk. Fred is CFR, Kudlow is CFR. They know exactly what the plan is. Yet they come on here and talk out of both sides of their mouth.

Kudlow acts like cap-and-trade is an outrage, but they are really for it.

They are globalists. For the NAU and ultimately one world gov.

It is SO FREAKING INSULTING. Exactly how can you be a "conservative" and support the abolition of our constitution and Republic?

Scumbags...that includes Wirs, who would treat conservatives the way Dems treat blacks.



Anna
I heard something about the Angelic Angelina spouting off about something or other. She seems a bit brighter than the typical dim Hollybulb, and I have trouble saying anything bad about her because I'm male and she has sculpted herself into something that resembles a walking (and bustier) version of the Venus de Milo.

Like most men, I lose control of my intellectual faculties when faced with striking beauty (even the silicon based variety . . . alas!)

Sorry, but your coworker/friend/some guy is a moron. As you well know, O'Barry is a just standard-issue socialist with dark skin. (He is FAR more liberal than most people think. Hillary was actually starting to look CONSERVATIVE at the end there. I actually suspect that it may be more accurate to call him a Communist--just in the clinical, descriptive terms of political science--than even socialist. He's WAY past being just a liberal, though.)

He WILL be our next President, unfortunately. Melanoma man doesn't have a prayer.

The good news is that he will not be re-elected. It may be so bad that, a la LBJ, he doesn't even run.

Gonna be a lousy four years; we survived Carter, though, and we'll survive the Socialist Messiah.

We are the fortunate citizens of a blessed land.

cont.
"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.
"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.

From a speech he gave in OR. Went over BIG here in PDX. (I'm looking at the picture on Drudge and the stats, biggest crowd ever... and I'm thinking it looks familiar. Then I realize it's
MY freaking city!) The godless are ready to race to see who can get over the cliff the fastest.

What countries get to decide what temp we have on our thermostat?

The bad news is McCain is on board too!


We have all eternity to celebrate our victories, but only a few hours before sunset to win them.
Amy Carmichael

someone posted this...VOTE FOR ALIBAMA
I'm tired of waiting around for the end.


Manischewitz







Ladies and Gentlemen! Votes, Please!
Please let us know whether you think that Weirdiwirs is:

a) a mutant (specifically the untermensch, or "underman," the next stage in RINO evolution)

OR

b) a space alien (and honorary member of the Al gore "Hey, that picture of the earth is upside down!" Global Warming Brigade!

Your opinion matters! Make your voice heard!

Mutant or Space Alien???

(I'm not kidding. Please vote. I'll keep track, and then I'll email the Hon. Peter J. Wirs the results.)

Heh, heh, heh . . .

Norman
"Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are said to be big Objectivists (followers of Ayn Rand), so perhaps TH will sign them up for a combined column soon."

Ange gave a speech at CFR recently. On some global education thing. Nice.

There's some guy who likes to give me grief because I point out that the NAU/new world order is around the corner and we already know how that story is going to end. (That is if you read the bible. I'm thinking the bible bit is what sticks in his craw the most.)

He posted this today...

"Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul."


So we get to choose between the mulatto messiah, who barely disguises his dislike for us and his intentions to reduce us to just another province in the new world order......and McCain.


Where's Dreadwirs. . .
aka "Dreadnaught" (sic)?

He's been strangely silent, since he identified himself (perhaps erroneously) as a sock puppet for Wirs.

All of Wirs' other defenders have fallen away, too.

Funny how, like Superman and Clark Kent, one never sees in a room with Weirdiwirs at the same time." Hmm . . .

Hey, Wirs! It's official!
You are an idiot.

I don't generally stoop to personal attacks of this sort, but when the (RINO) horn fits, wear it.

The lovely and talented Anna has already referred to your comment about McCain-Feingold. to wit: "No matter if you agree or disagree with McCain-Feingold, at least he did something."

That is simply inane. There is no other word for it.

"No matter if you agree or disagree with Dred Scott or Plessy v. Ferguson. At least the high court took a firm stand on one of the most pressing issues of our day."

Seriously, I'm flabbergasted, and I didn't think that you could surprise me, but this did it.

How you manage to maintain your rectal-cranial infarction with this sort of surreal, disembodied thinking is amazing.

You have earned your title of RINO Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to the Kingdom of Conservatavia.

Anna
Sorry about my late arrival on today's thread. At least it gave you some room to open up your own can of whip a s s on ol' Weirdiwirs.

Good stuff. You've got both barrels blazing. Good on ya!

I'll check out the Kudlow article. I haven't had a strong opinion one way or the other on him. I'm generally "up" on the guy, since he's been speaking truth to liberal power on the strength of the American economy, as the libs have been talking it down to pave the way for B. Hussein.

Keep pounding this ueber-RINO. I'm enjoying your posts!

Hey, Wirs!
Norman, here! Your #1 Fan!

Whazzup with the new quasi-RINO tack you're taking?! I think you only directly insulted conservatives ONCE in this article.

Yer slippin' Petie ol' boy!

In other news, the vote is not going well for you so far, but there's still time for you to kick it up a notch.

Here is the running tally from last week's pressing poll question, "Is Weird Wirs a mutant or a space alien?"

Mutant: 2
Space Alien: 0

The question emerged toward the end of the last thread--hence the very low "turnout." I'm sure a lot more folks will be chiming in.

I say that it's not going well for you, because --whatever the truth of the matter may be--I'm sure that big government lovin', phony-RINO-cons like you admire the father of both the internet and the hoax of man-made global warming--the Oscar and Nobel Prize winning Algore.

Since Algore is a well-known extra-terrestrial--having been born nine months after the Roswell incident (when some randy Olgaxians flew too low while buzzing some cows they were scoping out), I'm sure that you wanna be like Al.

Heck, it could be the new Weird Wirs theme song:

"I wanna be, I wanna be, I wanna be, I wanna be like Al. If I could be like Al!"

Dream on, MacWirs!

Republicans Raise Taxes
The fast-approaching expiration of the Bush tax cuts was passed by Republican majorities in Congress and signed into law by a Republican president. When taxes go back up, it's the republicans who will have done it.

In the unlikely event that McCain becomes president, how exactly would he prevent that expiration? Nothing to veto; it's already the law.

Norman
I wouldn't cut Kudlow so much slack. He is CFR and used to shill for Enron.

Check out his "Coal Cap Disaster" article. We took care of him on that one. LOL


Might not change the outcome, but it is cathartic and better than crying in one's beer.

You're right: RNC doesn't get it
Let's talk about some real cuts that won't have the slightest negative impact (except for bloated bureaucracies): abolish the department of education. Spending on education has dramatically increased, but has education improved? Abolish the department of energy. What has it done except spend untold zillions of dollars? Abolish housing and urban development. A ride through any major city will show what HUD has done to improve cities: nothing. Nada.

The RNC might want to dust off the US Constitution and read the 10th Amendment--and then abide by it.

Those would be good starts.

Waiting....
For Norman to show up and bust some moves...


I say bash on. I am sick of being asked to bend over and take it in the rear. Now they've got Fred (the CFR man) on TH with his palliative tripe.

Have to admit, if you are looking for material to lampoon, a Wirs article is a target rich environment.

He's got McCain, Republican and "Conservative" in the same sentence.


He pulls out the old canard that Smoot Hawley and not the Fed tightening the money supply caused the depression. (Nice try Peter)

Here's a good one.

"We need lower taxes, coupled with lower, much lower government spending. Less is best. Any fifth grader could figure this out."

Any fifth grader except Wirs, since his boy wants cap-and-trade.


"cap-and-trade “would impose the most extensive government reorganization of the American economy since the 1930s,” including a huge tax increase, higher prices across-the-board, and significant losses to economic growth in the decades ahead."

Not to mention the real aim, to kill the middle class and to ration energy.


Manischewitz. Do they really think we are that dumb?

Wirs outdid himself with this one..."No matter if you agree or disagree with McCain-Feingold, at least he did something."


Gawd.

RNC Still Doesn't Get It
Yes, as Chris says above, you might be "getting it" - lower taxes, coupled with lower, much lower gevernment spending.
But I don't hear from your anointed one, McCain, anything about either one. He makes noises about keeping the Bush tax cuts in place, but nothing about reducing them even more, let's say abolishing the Death Tax altogether, abolishing the Capital Gains Tax (which is a tax on a tax), or even considering the Fair Tax.

Nor do I hear McCain saying anything about reducing government spending "much lower"; he talks about getting rid of earmarks, but even if he did all that, it would be a drop in a barrel. MUCH LOWER spending means cuts in the budget on the order of 10% or more; abolishing whole departments and agencies.

And from what he says in support of the Global Warming Hoax, I have absolutely NO faith that he will veto any legislation the Democrat run Congress puts forth to increase energy costs and reduce consumption.

Yeah, if we vote for either one, we will have got a pig in a poke.

I'm either impressed or depressed
that Wirs gets it BETTER than the RNC. Either that or he's been reading these posts. Or maybe he's actually reading the feedback on his new site:

"We need lower taxes, coupled with lower, much lower government spending."

Thank you! Exactly right!



Gotta take issue with this one, though:
"This is not asserting a oxymoron,..."

side-bar: get a proof-reader, Wirs.

"... but instead the very heart of what the McCain/ Republican/ Conservative battle cry should be: "Don’t replace Stupidity on the Right with Stupidity on the Left"

What's been going on is NOT stupidity on the right - it's stupidity from people who originally claimed to be conservative, but have stupidly drifted left to the point that there won't be much difference between the country under McCain vs under Obama.
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