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Sunday, September 30, 2007
Paul Jacob :: Townhall.com Columnist
Is the U.S. Senate the world's greatest deliberative body . . . or merely a hundred Lily Tomlins waiting for the phone to ring?
by Paul Jacob
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Congress passes many bills without reading them. Some are prepared so close to the vote that not even their sponsors really know what they say.

That's nothing new. We all know this. But here's a surprise: Now the Senate can push through the legislation no one reads even faster, lickety-split. It's called hotlining, and it was designed to get nitpicky business-y kinds of things done quickly.

But recently the business has turned serious.

Here's what happens: The Senate Majority and Minority Leaders agree to pass a bill without a vote. They call all senators on special hotlines installed in each office, giving a specified amount of time to object — sometimes as little as 15 minutes. If no objection is registered, the bill passes.

Welcome to Washington, D.C., folks, where quantity of legislation is more important than quality. Yes, our nation's capitol is filled with people so motivated to do their job that they can do it with their voting hands tied behind their backs. In the buildings that Madison once walked, where the Adamses deliberated, where Webster, Calhoun and Clay orated — and where Preston Brooks took his Gutta-percha cane and beat Senator Charles Sumner into unconsciousness — today time is of such essence that the Senate must pass bills while the august solons frolic with staff, pages, and the habitués of airport bathrooms.

In a four-day period this summer, of the 153 hotline calls made 75 were legislative measures, 61 were nominations, and 17 were post-office-naming bills.

Naming post offices? Well, I can see hotlining such tasks. Heck, the U.S. government shouldn't even be in the postal service biz any longer, so why bother the Senate with such trivialities as naming each post office? So maybe the expediting of that kind of legislation makes a certain kind of sense.

But real laws? Real money? You'd think the senators could bother to gather in chamber and push a button for the crucial stuff.

And maybe even prick up their ears and limber up their tongues to discuss, debate, perchance to deliberate.

But no, hotlining is apparently all the rage. A few of these bills authorized hundreds of millions of dollars in new spending.

Thankfully, some rage against the political machine has been building. In a floor speech last year, Sen. Jeff Sessions from Alabama noted that these bills can be as long as 500 pages. Many staffs simply ignore the calls, he said, and "the Senator is deemed to have consented to the passage of some bill" without ever been told diddley or squat.

This issue made a ripple in the news last month. An article appeared in Roll Call. The heroic Mark Tapscott explained hotlining to his audience at The Examiner, and opined that "Democracy itself will soon become a joke, or worse, if drastic reforms are not soon forced upon this Congress and all that follow."

If anything, Tapscott understates the case. Congress is already a joke. It has been for some time. It's a bipartisan joke, and I get the feeling that the Old Guard in office — the long-term incumbents resting in secrecy behind their oak bookshelves of leather-bound editions and stashes of half-drunken bourbon bottles — shout out a whoop every night, jeering at the taxpayers who keep them in office.

And the situation is only getting worse. Nearly 400 bills and resolutions went through the senatorial mill this year. Only 29 were approved by a roll-call vote.

This is not representative government. How can anyone be represented when the stand-ins are, well, out? Out to lunch.

And, as Sessions suggested, that's just how many in the Senate like it. The leadership likes to "get things done" without all the constitutional bother of debate and voting. Rank-and-file senators themselves like things done without them bothering to . . . bother at all. Besides, if someone complains, he (or she) can just say, "Well, I was out that day." Can't stand by the phone every minute!

You might be thinking, along with Tapscott, something to this effect: "But doesn't the Constitution require that federal spending bills be approved only after a public debate?"

Well, yes. But that and a nickel will get you five pennies. Sure, senators took an oath to uphold the Constitution. But actually stick to their word? Play by the rules?

How retro.

What could you be thinking?

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Paul Jacob is President of Citizens in Charge. His daily Common Sense commentary appears on the Web, via e-mail, and on radio stations across America.
 
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Representation? WHAT Representation???
It seems like each day we get closer to taxation without representation in Washington. And the lazy bums use redistricting to help ensure that over 90 percent of incumbents will remain in power. I would love to see a grass-roots effort sweep across this country to impose term limits on Senators and "Representatives".

Sam,
I'm with you on Ron Paul. I'm 47, and I've never sent any money to any political candidate. Until now. I've sent money to Ron Paul. Twice. I will send more. I have never put any bumper sticker, political or non-political, on any car I've ever owned. Until now. There's a Ron Paul bumper sticker on my car. Every article Paul Jacob writes further illustrates how evil our federal government has become. Only Ron Paul will make the changes necessary to preserve freedom. If he isn't elected in 2008, America is done for.

Sam...
...exactly when did "The American People" elect you to speak for them?You always seem to know what "The American People" are going to do.

Face it,Sam,you are projecting.Why don't you just say what YOU want instead of putting words into "The People's"mouth?And Ron Paul has as much chance of getting the nomination,let alone being elected,as I do,and I ain't even running.

Nam
Shhh, you will give away the dirty little secret: that Ron Paul is supported as much by Democrats who want the non-Democrat vote splintered, as by the lunatics who actually think Ron Paul has a chance of winning.

Oops, now *I* spilled it!

Sam
If you are right, the voters who voted this country to the brink, may pull it back. 1980 and 1994 were good starts, but fizzled. Maybe third time would be a charm.

REPEAL THE 17TH AMENDMENT
It will make congress better.

Hotling makes no difference
Over the years I have always asked my congress critters this question when talking with them, "have you read the bill". I have never been given a yes. So why send them paper work or ask them to appear to vote and interrupt the lobbyist and campaign fund raising.

There is no reason these
clowns should be in DC full time.
They spend very little time working anyway and their "work" is mostly self-serving and costly to us.
They should be citizen legislators with a 90 day session maximum to debate the citizens business instead of thinking up ways to extort more money from us to expand ridiculous programs that expand their power over us or advance the agenda of special interest groups.

The Sons of Liberty through a helluva tea party over a tax on their breakfast beverage, yet we sit back and allow our own reps to do far worse.

We should throw them all out and start over and I agree that the 17th Amendment needs to go.

Quoraum Requirements
From the Constitution:
Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.
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What this means in it’s original text and intent is that a MAJORITY of the body be present to do business. That is hardly possible if NONE are present and they are calling offices. Now I haven’t seen the actual congressional rules that describe this practice but I suspect that if what is stated here is true and it were to somehow be challenged in court by someone who was able to gain standing it would be shot down.

This is somewhat supported in this case involving the constitutionality of a law that was passed over a veto with less than 2/3 of the congress present, but had backing of 2/3 of those present in a quorum. The SC went with the "present" theory. As long as a "quorum" was "present", the 2/3 requirement was of those present. There has not been a lot of jurisprudence in this area.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=248&invol=276

As to stuff like "Post Office Naming Bills" and other low value legislation that they do not wish to use valuable floor time for, if it is that low value, then WHY are they doing it. And as to approving spending measures using this method, if they don’t have time to vote on important bills because they are spending most of their time in Special Committee Hearing so they can get PRESS ATTENTION and free publicity (harmful to the other party), then something is ROTTEN in Denmark, USA.

I guess it is time for the "popularity" ratings of Congress to drop even lower.

If only...
the American public would pay attention to what is happening and not continuously put these miscreants back in office, the problem would be easily solved.

Unfortunately, many people vote without having any understanding of the issues or of the shenanigans that go on in Washington. Voters also keep returning corrupt politicions to office because their votes can be bought by special "earmark" projects. Two egregious examples: Ted Stevens of Alaska and John Murtha of Pennsylvania. There are many other porkers just like them in Congress, thanks to greedy voters who put their own intersts above that of the country.

"two party system"
No change possible. The electorate is polarized into Dem and Rep camps and even those whose hearts tell them to vote for anyone on a ballot other than a Dem or Rep are likely to betray themselves out of fear that they will help a Rep, if they have been a Dem, or a Dem, had they been a Rep advocate in their lives, gain the office.
If somehow "we the people" could have political parties done away with, things would change (although for good or ill I can not predict).
Face it, the USA is doomed to undo itself, like all great societies of history.

Charlie
You got it right.

SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?

.....Jacob ...

.....Anyone who doesn't know that we are living under a Government Dictatorship ...and have been since the Civil War ...a dictatorship that is getting more oppressive every year and is soon to become a Socialist dictatorship with authoritarian control not far behind ...has just not been paying attention ...

.....If Lincoln could suspend Habeas Corpus during the Civil War ...then a Hillary type could suspend the entire Constitution including the Second Amendment under Martial Law ...

.....there would be pockets of resistance of course but they would be dealt with the same way Ruby Ridge and Waco were dealt with ...Winchesters and shotguns are no match for helicopters and tanks ...

.....Impossible you say! ...if I can think it ...it could happen ...The Roman and British Empires collapsed ...so can ours .....COLOSSUS

Vic
You're close on the popularity angle. Most Senators look on their voting record as being the modern day equivalent of Colleridge's albatross. To wit no sitting member of the Senate has won a Presidential election since JFK in '60.

In the good 'ol Days
Federal Senator Paul J. Fanin AZ, asked me to present my idea of a needed IRS law, to his staff, and staff members of other Senators, in his office in the U. S. Senate Office Building in Washington, DC.

I sure was impressed with his request, they liked my presentation. Don’t think the idea was passed into law. Well I was almost famous! (1969)
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During many visits, over many years, whenever I had to be in Washington DC, I made sure I had time to visit the Capitol building, and spend time in the gallery of the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Once I was supposed to be at a cocktail party of some kind, and my boss was very unhappy to find I would prefer to visit the Capitol Building, instead of joining fellow employees in the cocktail lounge at a fancy hotel.

Among other things, I would ride the little subway cars from the Capitol building to the Senate office building, and would make sure I got to sit next to Senator Taft, Senator Bricker, Senator Knowland, and others whose names I don’t remember at the moment.

I always made sure I had a question or comment that was germane to the issues of the day, and they were always polite to me.

Rein in Congress
Sometimes i think the only way we're ever going to rein in congress is if the American people storm washington with torches and pitchforks.

I do belong to one group trying to make a difference, although i don't agree with some of their politics, (They tend to be of the ron paul variety) they do have some really good ideas for controlling the congress-critters.
it's called Downsize DC and you can read their "Read the Bills Act" and "One Bill at a Time Act" at http://www.downsizedc.com

THIS
Is a great dishonor on Lily Tomlin, for she is funny and THEY ARE NOT! Fact is with so many RINO'S there now, what makes the difference? Look how fred helped author mcqucack-findmegold-trompsomerights (is that close to thompson?) bill. That is the question that begs answers!


HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com


This information should be made public!
If the public was aware of this our Congress would loose more of their 11% approval rate.

Maybe we should e-mail a few links to this page?

Part-time job
The Founders envisioned pol. office as a part-time job for citizen-leaders.

It's too bad AC was invented, in that for decades DC was uninhabitable in the summer, and Congress adjourned nearly half a year to get away from the swamp and the heat.

Now they spend all their time figuring out ways to
1) spend money
2) raise taxes
3) regulate our lives
4) and take away freedoms
5) make running a business a dodge-ball game
6) aggrandize themselves
7) attack and cripple the military
8) attack and demoralize the presidency
9) reward its chosen victim groups
10)skew public pol. and business with targeted taxes and buraeucracy
11) investigate their perceived enemies
12) decrease public debate and discourse through intimidation and gov't extortion


START WITH MASSACHUSETTS:
START WITH MASSACHUSETTS:
Can anyone from there tell the name of the senator that took a young girls life?

Does anyone from there know the name of the young girl killed?
Do they know the age of the girl when killed?
Where she died?
What was the cause of her death?

How aqbout the name of the senator's 100 year old Hersheloff yacht? PATRICIAN, like in the royal caste in ancient Rome with the Claudians, Julians, and ScrewUians.

JAMES

.....You write of Chappaquiddick Ted & Mary Jo of course ...but it does not matter to the residents of Mass ...Teddy has his job for life ...the fix is in ...

.....Which makes me wonder how a Republican was elected Governor ...who was Romney's Democrat opponent? ...does anyone know? .....COLOSSUS

US Senate = The Life of Ease
Too bad that not everyone can be a US Senator. It really is a great life. They have power and prestige. They have great salary and benefits. They have a huge staff to do their work for them. They can play hooky as much as they please, without any accountability. The get to belittle and besmirch other politicians, bureaucrats and most anyone else at committee hearings. Now they don't even have to vote and/or debate any bills. Etc and etc. What a wonderful life! No wonder they stay forever.

charlie no change possible
What would happen if a third party received an overwhelming majority of the votes in all states? I know it's unlikely to happen...but I am curious...

Being a senator is so important
that Bill Bradley--a senator I voted for once--spent $13,000,000 in his last sen.'s race for a job that at the time paid $125,000.

A modest proposal
Why is it that in the 21st century, our country is governed by a body that seems to be run like something out of H.M.S. Pinafore? In what other business do you have pages bustling about with papers, and the higher-ups meeting in cloakrooms.
Why not keep the congresspeople at home, and have conduct their business over the internet. They would be more accessable to their constituents, and less accessable to various lobbyists and hangers-on. They could do with fewer staff (think of a small insurance agent or lawyer's office).
Unfortunately, I do not see my plan ever seeing the light of day. In addition to the aforementioned lobbyists and hangers-on there is an entire industry in metropolitan Washington, D.c. devoted to the care and feeding of the Congress and it employees.

PUZZLE
BASEBALLDOC: THX; my time in Mass reccollects that it is the D of Motor Vechiles that maintains the votor lists for the counties. In the Comm of Mass you register to vote by the county but pay taxes by the town (Boston is in Suffolk County is made up of several towns (Rorchester, Roxbury, Brighten, etc) and I lived is a small town on the South Shore which collected the property taxes. Leaving Mass it is very conceivable my name remains on the votor list and has been registered in different counties depending on the payoff and needs of the candidates. Statistically, whenever the man who killed Mary Jo (27)has an election the number of votes cast doubles the norm. Where do these extras votors come from is the puzzle.

THE ENTERTAINMENT OF C-SPAN & C-SPAN2

It has occurred to me that perhaps we need a Congressional hearing to find out where our elected lords are when there is a vote in the offing.

The hearing could be, probably would be, televised on C-SPAN or C-SPAN2.

Until then, much of my television entertainment derives from watching the antics and posturing of some of the lords when they are in full swing. One comes to mind quickly, the inimitable (thank goodness) Byrd.

The posturings of Durbin are quite entertaining as well. So entertaining that on more than one occasion that he has propelled me to log on to the Internet to write very quick e-mail messages to my own lords of the state.

Too often, such entertainment raises my blood pressure, however, and I must tear myself away in order to look at the real world around me -- not some fantasy world created out of whole cloth by fantasy people attempting to create a fantasy that some of us will buy into, hook, line and sinker.

Most of the time, these lords are, or seem to be, AWOL. Perhaps they are, like me, being entertained by C-SPAN or C-SPAN2.

I wouldn't bet on it.

The one thing I have concluded, from listening to the common-sense oratory of Senator Tom Coburn, is that he walks on water. Well, practically.

If he were running for President, I would vote for him in a heartbeat.


Renny Writes

I like what Renny writes.

Senate voting
And we are touting demoracy arount the planet when we have forgotten the meaning of the word.

The definition of insanity:
Doing the same thing (in this case voting for the same people) over and over again hoping for and/or expecting a different result.

Reforms
Term limits would help. Repealing the 17th is in order.

And how about this? All bills proposed must be penned, personally, by the sponsor.

As for expectations, I have none. The next, next November elections (13 months from now) will cause a little shift in Congressional makeup, probably a marginal advantage to the Dimz.

"We" aren't going to clean house by the ballot. It never really happens that way.

more like the cell phone guy...
"Can you hear me now?"

Unfortunately most Americans don't hear them and aren't aware until it is too late the damage these public servants are doing in the hallowed halls of Congress.

I watched Ted Kennedy throwing a temper tantrum over the "Hate Crimes" bill the other day. Did he hate MJK or did he just hate what getting caught might (but didn't) do to his career as a US Senator (the great American pickpocket profession). It apparently does not matter to the voters of MASS, he keeps getting elected.

The world's greatest deliberative body
For the world's greatest deliberate liars.

Check out what Harry Reid has been doing to besmirch Rush Limbaugh's good name on the floor of the Senate.

Read my web site. Read "Rush Limbaugh and the Phony Soldier."

:P
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