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Friday, October 31, 2008
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Joy of Losing
by Paul Greenberg
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These are times that try conservatives' souls. The polls all say so. Yet there are satisfactions. For some of us would rather go down with the U.S.S. McCain than join the multitudes at the shrine of the Savior of the Moment. Duty calls.

Also judgment. For there's never been any question who's the known quantity in this presidential race, is there? John McCain has been around for what seems like forever, or at least since the Reagan Revolution. He's served his country in war and peace, generally with distinction, regularly with heroism.

Agree or disagree with Sen./Naval Captain McCain's stands, he's taken them. Including some that were not popular with his political base, like trying finally to fix the country's broken immigration system, or joining with the reasonables on the other side of the aisle to fill all those vacancies on the federal bench. He's been his own man, gone his own way, and never tried to cover his tracks. If he had, it wouldn't have worked. Unlike his opponent in this election, he lacks the rhetorical talent to obfuscate eloquently.

If there is a single issue, stand, time or decision that sums up the choice in this presidential election, it is the contrast between these two presidential candidates on what has become known as the Surge.

Only last year, even the name for this new strategy in Iraq was debatable, and the odds against its succeeding disheartening. Well, at least the left was disheartened. And maybe most of the middle, too. In January 2007 -- not so long ago, really -- one poll showed American public opinion on Iraq to be sharply divided: A majority of Americans -- 71 percent -- was split between those who thought the war was going only badly and those who thought it was going very badly. Not since Vietnam had Americans been so demoralized in wartime.

Any presidential candidate in these dismal circumstances who would have thought, let alone said, that the country could yet pursue a winning strategy in Iraq would have been inviting defeat. Which is what John McCain did. It wasn't the first time he'd shown extraordinary courage. And leadership. By now he's been vindicated by events. For only those in ideological denial still refuse to recognize that the Surge has worked, and that victory in Iraq is within reach. If we don't let it slip away.

On this key and representative issue, Barack Obama's statements could sum up the whole difference -- of attitude, personality and direction -- between these two candidates. "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq are going to solve the sectarian violence there," he said when the Surge was still only a plan and hope. "In fact, I think it will do the reverse." And throughout this campaign, he's held on to his unshakable belief in American defeat -- even as victory nears. To quote Joe Lieberman, one Democrat who has never lost faith in the American cause, Sen. Obama's policy has been simple: "Hear no progress in Iraq, see no progress in Iraq, and, most of all, speak of no progress in Iraq."

Even though by now all five combat brigades involved in the Surge have left Iraq, a free and independent Iraqi government takes precarious hold, and American deaths in combat reached a new monthly low in July (5). Every American casualty pains, but that doesn't make the success of the Surge any less important. Or less revealing when it comes to choosing the next president and commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

Ah, but that's just foreign policy, they say, and who cares about that? For American public opinion is making its inevitable swing back to an almost instinctive isolationism. After all, we came to these shores to get away from the world's problems. (Even if the world's problems will scarcely stay away from us, as we have learned, or rather should have learned, time and again.) So what kind of domestic policies would each of these presidential nominees follow if elected?

There, too, on issue after issue, the choice is clear whether we're talking about taxes, health insurance, free trade, education, congressional earmarks, protection for the unborn and even the newly born, the federal deficit, energy policy, the kind of judges appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court and the rest of the federal judiciary, and even freedom of speech. (Barack Obama doesn't dare say so openly, but he hints at subjecting the airwaves to a revival of the old Unfairness Doctrine to rid him of those meddlesome talk-show hosts and Fox News types.)

On all those issues, John McCain comes down on the side of greater freedom, less spending, more choice and a greater respect for the individual. The choice between these two candidates may be clearest when it comes to two signature issues: keeping the secret ballot in union elections (Barack Obama would abandon it) and taxing the capital that creates jobs.

Sen. Obama explains that he'd raise taxes only on the other fellow, that is, The Rich, as if the rich didn't have the sense or at least the lawyers and trust administrators to start moving into all the numerous and not very productive tax shelters available to them. (In anticipation of an Obama administration, estate planners are already pushing new ones.)

Tax increases that are supposed to affect only those in the upper brackets have a sure way of drifting down into the middle class as the government reaches for ever more revenue. Because that's where the unsheltered income will be. Call it the Obama Shift. One candidate, John McCain, would let small businesses, individual entrepreneurs and capital in general create jobs; the other would just squeeze it.

None of this is to deny Barack Obama's charismatic appeal. He is not so much campaigning for president as announcing a messianic era. ("I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal!") Barack Obama's rhetoric can be blinding (if a little silly), so shiny yet vague that any voter can project his favorite fantasy onto the screen he projects.

In this, the Age of Celebrity, the coming election of President Obama -- for don't the polls say he can't lose? -- would be the crowning triumph of personality over character. But who is he? There is still a hollowness, a cultivated distance, at his political core, however obscured it may be by his undeniable, even attractive manner. In that respect, he resembles Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man, who moves through events coolly observing and analyzing them rather than taking part in them.

Is there any doubt who is the unknown quantity in this presidential election?

In the end, what matters most in this presidential election, as in life perhaps, is not who was right but what is right. And that is the ground on which any conservative should stand. With John McCain.

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GOP Titanic Taking on water
Captain Queeg will go down with the ship. Palin shares his views on not enforcing our immigration laws, so she's going down as well.

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/23/its-official-pali n-supports-path-to-citizenship/

Dear God
Why do Conservative pundits bring up John McCain's immigration stance as a selling point? It's not just conservatives that oppose it! SEVENTY PERCENT OF THE COUNTRY (including 60% of registered Democrats) OPPOSES AMNESTY!

The "reasonables" on the other side of the aisle to fill the bench? Mind naming a Democrat representative who has any sanity when it comes to judges?

Bringing up the surge is fine. Bringing up how he voted against Bush's energy bill is fine. They're points on which he opposed the party for losing its way. Bringing up how he fought "Conservative" earmarks is fine by trying to enforce some ideological commitment on the behalf of those representatives' constituents. In each of these instances McCain did a genuine service to his country.

But if we are to be Conservatives, let's not celebrate when our candidate tells us to go suck a lemon. If you get punched in the face, you don't say, "Please sir, may I have another?" If you're going to be a Conservative columnist, then please, when you dole out praise, do so for Conservative behavior!

Apologies will be approxicate on the 6th
The polls look bleak and the media are discouraging a November surprise but the people have not yet gave up. This is the first election when the voter turn out will be high no matter weather because of the importance it is to so many citizens. The change block will actually vote but the silent block is the undecided and the conservative crossover registered democrat voters that gave Clinton large wins after McCain had locked up the Republican nomination. A McCain victory is the product of talk radio, way back in the spring because I could answer a poller I am a registered democrat and plan to vote as I normally do in the presidential election and be considered a democrat voter.

Vote for the Honorable, Barack Obama



Aren't you fed up by the misery of the past 8 years of Bush/McCain leadership?:

Average wages not keeping up with the rising cost of living in recent years.

Nearly 800,000 jobs lost nationwide so far this year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Consumer confidence found to be the lowest in 40+ years.

Home values in many cities have fallen 20 percent or more in the past few years, and are expected to fall further. Each day, 10,000 homes are being foreclosed across the country.

A multi-billion dollar and wrong Iraq War that has killed 4,100 Americans, wounded 30,000 soldiers, and John McCain wants to drag the war on for many more years.

Lawbreaking Republican legislators like Sarah Palin who violated state ethics laws and Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska, who was found guilty of seven charges this week.

McCain, who voted 90 percent for Bush’s failed policies, and plans to continue most of those policies.

A US government that most countries worldwide do not trust or admire.

Leaders who are erratic, angry and divide the country to achieve their goals.

Yes, America, it is time for REAL CHANGE – Vote Obama/Biden. Vote early or by Election Day, Tuesday, Nov. 4.

And remember, John McCain is neither a maverick or honorable. He proved that throughout his campaign.

John
"Aren't you fed up by the misery of the past 8 years of Bush/McCain leadership?"

If you're talking about judges, the death penalty, or giving more funding to the U.N. then not particularly. If you're talking about funding the troops, creating a missile defense shield, creating the Do-Not-Call registry, getting Libya to abandon its nuclear weapons program, achieving free elections in lower levels of government in Saudri Arabia, and removing a dictator from Liberia, then no, not really. Did I also mention the appointment of 2 fantastic SCOTUS judges?

Bush is not responsible for job losses. Investor's Business Daily had a great, 3-page article going over the timeline of the disaster that is the Community Reinvestment Act. Consumer confidence is not Bush's fault. That is the product of individual fear and expectations, which in part can be artificially and deliberately harmed by politicians (see Chuck Schumer's commentary prior to the crisis which essentially attempted to trigger a bank panic)

John McCain has not said he wants to "drag" the Iraq War on, but rather end it successfully rather than engage in a preciptious withdrawal that loses everything we've gained. Iraq now controls 13 of its 18 provinces, and we lost zero soldiers this month in Baghdad. As for the war itself being wrong, I seem to recall a Resolution 1441 being passed that basically said the rest of the world signed off on it (even if they were too craven to back up their own word when Saddam violated 17 UN resolutions and did not provide full cooperation).

As for Sarah Palin's lawbreaking... uh... you mean, putting pressure on a guy (Monegan) for not firing someone (Wooten) who was a cop that hunted illegally, got drunk in his cruiser, issued death threats against Palin's dad, tasered his own 10 year-old stepson, and word has it, beat his wife? If that's a scandal, I wish every politician was so scandalous.

John2
Stevens is the one point I'll give you.

Bush's "failed" policies? Like what? Open borders? How does taking my vote elsewhere solve that one, hmmm? That certainly won't change with an Obama-I-give-every-illegal-a-license-policy.

A U.S. government that other countries don't like? I don't care what they think. I am not some international, sycophantic suck-up. Show some independence of thought and will for the love of God.

As for leaders who divide the country to achieve their goals, what does someone who keeps referring to "failed policies" and insults the other candidate as "erratic" do? Or someone who says that others will exploit race, and then repeatedly points out his own race to synthesize sympathy despite no offending remark? How about someone who attends a racist, anti-American church for 20 years, whose wife is only proud of the country when her husband leads in the polls?

If you want unity, do the honorable thing: concede.

Republicans have slipped!
Republicans: I've fallen and I can't get up!

The GOP has taken the conservative vote for granted, the Democrats have dismissed the conservative vote altogether. But the responsibility rests in the hands of the voters. Our politicians have slouched because we have allowed it. We have to be more active, more organized. We have to be ready for BIG fights. Not just this election or next election. Not just local elections or national elections. We have to fight in every election from now on. We have to fight for every vote in every legislature. We can do it, but we will have to work hard and invest lots of time (and some money too). And we can't get lazy (when we inevitably have great successes). Complacency is what got us into this mess. This is a great and powerful nation and we enjoy incredible freedom and wealth and security. But we will lose it all if we stay lazy. I think our nation is "circling the drain" politically, and that is SCARY. But as a nation, we have overcome much greater obstacles with our traditional values and we can do it again if only we set our minds to it.

*Final Note: Obama is ahead in the polls. Sitting out the election is a vote for Obama. You don't even have to get out of your chair to help Obama win!
http://rightklik.blogspot.com/


Illegal immigrants and 3rd world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7C31DJsmGg

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Stoic Patriot.
After reading your words, one may wonder if you know what a "Stoic" is -- which may lead one to wonder about the other word you claim.

In your first little epistle, you do illuminate that Paul Greenberg is an American, before he is a Conservative.

And my goodness, what has an illegal immigrant ever done to you?

For most of us, if we are honest, not much.

You Cannot Trust Barack Obama
Barack Obama was mentored by Communist Frank Marshall Davis, Communist writer and poet (1905-1987).

Frank Marshall Davis was identified unequivocally as a CPUSA member in a 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities.

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Barack Obama carefully chose William 'Bill' Ayers who said, "Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents."

In the 1960s, Bernardine Dohrn and her husband Bill Ayers were leaders of the "Weatherman" faction, which in 1969 went underground to become America's first terrorist cult.

Barack Obama launched his political career in the home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

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Alice Palmer met Barack Obama during meetings at the home of Bill Ayers and hand picked Obama to fill her newly vacated 'State Senate Seat'.

Alice Palmer served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group.

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Michael Klonsky was chosen by Barack Obama as a blogger on the 'Obama official Website'. Klonsky a former leader of 'SDS' - Students for a Democratic Society and a leader of the 'New Communist Party'.

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Tim Wheeler is a National Board member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and has been a key figure in the party's Baltimore chapter since the early 1970s. He helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for Obama, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the Obama campaign website.

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Jeremiah Wright was carefully chosen by Barack Obama to 'Mentor' him and be his spiritual guide.

Mentor Wright became famous for screaming 'God Damn America' from the pulpit at TUCC.

http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/21/obamas_radical_ and_communist_alliances.thtml

THE FAT LADY DOESN'T SING UNTIL
THE LAST POLLING PLACE CLOSES....

On Tuesday, November 4th,the MSM will be doing its best to discourage Republican voters that all is lost and that they just might as well stay home and get drunk, get depressed, or what ever else they can come up with.

On that day the MSM, the unpaid full-fledged wing of the Obama campaign, will state one or more of the following:

(1) Calls for McCain to just give up and quit, because the race is over.

(2) Wild claims of Obama winning states that shock and surprise you.

(3) Repeated insistence that blacks and young people will decide this election, and they are all going to vote in record numbers for Obama.

This is the same game they tried is 2000 & 2004 and we know how that turned out.

Republicans get out and vote

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/three-things-the-o bamedia-will-do-to-depress-republican-turnout-and-help-obam a/

Vote for the Honorable, Barack Obama #9
John are you that uneducated or have you been at the Kool-aid stand once too often.

Following 9-11, the stock market fell lower that it did during the most recent plunge. The it rose to over 14,000 in October of last year. In 2006 the Dems took control of the House and Senate...a case of cause and effect?

The lack of consumer confidence, the housing collapse, and resulting credit crisis and stock market plunge are a result of the Community Reinvestment Act whose goal was to put low income people in homes they could not afford. They were really good at that and developed Zero Down 100% financing, No income verification loans (aka Liar Loans). This was served over by Barny Frank, Christopher Dodd and Barbara Boxer. If you think I'm lying, you can find videos on U-Tube showing those hearings when Republican Regulators were trying to rein them it.


Michael
I happen to know quite well what a Stoic is. The name for their movement derived from the Greek word for porch (stoa), and they advocated for a couple of simple ideas:

(1) Apatheia - not to be confused with apathy, it merely meant employing reason from a standpoint of disinterest (in other words, use formal logic that start with premises and reach conclusions without becoming enthymemic)

(2) Natural Law - Stoics believed that every individual possessed rights that were intrinsic to their being

Unlike the epicureans (essentially an intellectualized hedonism that preached balance only when it increased pleasure), the competing philosophical group at the time, the Stoics encouraged active civil engagement.

Michael2
If you wish to know what is "wrong" with illegal immigration, I suggest you look at the first word in the term: illegal. There is a legal process by which one may immigrate into this country, and we, as a sovereign nation, possess the right and ability to make agreements with those outside it as to who we wish to let in.

Why is illegal immigration bad? Here's why:

(1) Undermines the rule of law (as does any criminal activity)
(2) Acts as a drag on wages and loss of citizens' jobs as citizens that our government exists to serve are underbid for their labor
(3) Attracts those who are unscrupulous enough to break other laws, resulting in a correlation with an increase in other crime (e.g. sex-slavery, drugs, identity theft and other forms of robbery, murder)
(4) Drains the coffers of the government when it comes to entitlement programs (e.g. those who make claims on social services such as Medicaid)

Have I personally suffered from any of the above? With the exception of point 4 because I pay my taxes, no. Regardless, I object anyway to points 1-3, even if my own welfare has not been affected on the grounds that these are grossly unjust. Stoicism is not a self-centered philosophy where one is capable of forming an opinion only if one's activities are directly a detriment to oneself.

Greenberg is of course entitled to his opinions. Where I take issue with him of course are his stances (ideological), but I also have a practical objection: I object to the particulars which he uses to try to convince others to like McCain without making an argument for those positions. Anyone can be outspoken, but it only becomes an attractive quality when one is found to be correct, and on illegal immigration, that is one matter that I, and the vast majority of Americans have found McCain to be on the wrong side of.

Stoic Patriot.
Yes, indeedy, you know whereof you speak, as do I. And onward to their interpreters, Ennius, Lucretius, Cicero, Tacitus, Livy, etcetera, et al -- name-dropper that I can be, if I like.

The prime virtue of a Stoic, however, is acceptance. I see none of that in your opinions, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Since you think of yourself as of the classic intellectualism, a good thing and you probably are, you might re-think the immigrant situation. The Pagan Romans handled it well, for a thousand years. It was when they resisted it, they failed.

But yes, we do need to do "something" about it. And McCain is much closer to the classically smart idea, than I think you might be.

Paul Greenberg said,
"A majority of Americans -- 71 percent -- was split between those who thought the war was going only badly and those who thought it was going very badly."


I believe that 71% of the American people have the attetion span of a fly. Those of that 71% that are liberal have the attention span of a flea. Their postings here at TH prove this.

History, no doubt, will demonstrate that 'W' was one of the best this country has produced.

Michael
Where I'd have to take exception with what you say is on the idea of "acceptance."

Stoicism, I would say, instead stresses perseverance. For instance, assume your home burns to the ground. The Stoic acknowledges that that may have been a lousy event, but realizes that the event has already passed, there's nothing which can be done, and so there is no point in dwelling on it.

Stoicism always realizes one's own constraints, and acts in accordance with those constraints rather than trying to fight an unalterable reality. I may wish and wish that my house did not burn down, but all that wishing will not change anything, and so I may as well move on.

A word as broad as "acceptance" I find to be too vague, because it requires that one treat any happenstance as a constraint, regardless of one's ability to influence the outcome. The Stoics preached acceptance only in so far as they offered a recognition that one does not possess the ability to control or influence events. That's part of why they kept preaching against a fear of death: because for each of us it is ultimately inevitable.

Events such as illegal immigration though are not beyond a measure of control. And when it comes to criminal acts, such as theft or murder, while we may not be able to prevent a wrong that has already occured, we can nevertheless strive to mete out justice according to our convictions concerning natural law.

Michael2
You mention the Romans. I would point out that while some later Stoics were Roman and cosmopolitans, the Romans were nevertheless conquerors (and major slaveholders, as were the Greeks). Nothing about their philosophy said that we must capitulate to abuse, be that of the law or ourselves. If it is within your means to resist or fight, by all means do so. I do not oppose immigration. Merely illegal immigration, and that is something which the government can fight, and why I take the political position I do.

Stoicism's wisdom lies in the ability to differentiate between the things we cannot change and those we can. In the case of illegal immigration, I would like us to adopt Mexico's own policy -- illegal immigrants are imprisoned for 2 years and given minimal food and water before being deported.

Man I'm so sick
and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.

Lesser of 2 evils

I agree. However, even my preferred candidate, Fred Thompson, was not perfect either. And Huckabee had some things I did not like. It is apparent that I will not find the perfect candidate. If I vote for a third party, I have just wasted my vote. So, at what point do I just vote the better of 2?

Greenberg is a Zionist
and that's all he really cares about-- choosing a president who will carry the most water for Israel.

That's why he quotes Lieberman, an ultra-lib who nonetheless is always right behind Tel Aviv.

McCain is the one who wants to bomb Iran, so Greenberg endorses him.

I'm sick of these dual loyalist neocons muddying the waters. Let 'em emigrate.


Zogby Has Us UP by One (1)
Not so fast on the pessimism. Zogby shows up by one. We're surging.

Obama is an existential threat to America. Sunday November 2nd is a National Day of Prayer devoted to the election. Church officials of multiple faiths across the nation are asking people to pray for God's will in the election because there are so many critical issues at stake. This election is as important as any this country has faced in its 232 years. If you can say a simple silent prayer Sunday asking for God to be present in the election, it could be a powerful force on the many life and death outcomes hanging in the balance.

Also please vote and get as many people you know to the polls. Turnout wins this thing.


I've been to several threads this
morning. One thing has been consistant.
Liberal trolls have consistantly written vile racist remarks to downplay any and all comments that might be construed as pro McCain based on thier race. Thomas Sowell was another one that was called an Uncle Tom, now Mike is here calling Greenberg a Zionist. I thought Liberals were for the minorities, beyond race or creed. The platform that trancends race creed, religous affiliation.....

RIGHT ON PAUL GREENBERG ! A GOLD MEDAL !
MCCAIN-PALIN IS OUR ONLY CHOICE!NOW IS THE TIME TO GO AND VOTE MCCAIN-PALIN!THERE IS OBAMA TROLLS ON THIS WEB SITE FROM CHICAGO,THEY ARE EMPTY!AND UN-HAPPY.IT IS A JOY TO READ YOUR ARTICLES THANKS PAUL!!!TO RICHARD IN CHICAGO I LOVE ISRAEL,IM A CHRISTIAN AND I LOVE ZION!IF WE EVER TURN OUR BACK ON ISRAEL WE ARE TOAST!SO BE HUSSEIN DONT SOUND RIGHT!

and before I'm called a racist
I like this guy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mteMQh5zD0c

CHANGE
Communists
Hoping
Americans
Not
Getting
Educated

RIGHT ON PAUL GREENBERG ! A GOLD MEDAL !
MCCAIN-PALIN IS OUR ONLY CHOICE!NOW IS THE TIME TO GO AND VOTE MCCAIN-PALIN!THERE IS OBAMA TROLLS ON THIS WEB SITE FROM CHICAGO,THEY ARE EMPTY!AND UN-HAPPY.IT IS A JOY TO READ YOUR ARTICLES THANKS PAUL!!!TO RICHARD IN CHICAGO I LOVE ISRAEL,IM A CHRISTIAN AND I LOVE ZION!IF WE EVER TURN OUR BACK ON ISRAEL WE ARE TOAST!SO BE HUSSEIN DONT SOUND RIGHT!

The Evil Empire
The Evil Empire spawned by Ronald Reagan and replete with Warlords Cheney, Rumsfeld, and architects of propoganda Lee Atwater through Karl Rove and of course America's Worst Family The Bush's may be coming to a close.

The Republican Party leaves our country weak, poor, despised in the world, a floundering empire in great debt that lies to its own people and cannot even win a war even with imperial outposts all over the world. Democrats might be left to clean up the mess much as they did from Herbert Hoover's failures.

McCain is not evil enough a character (as a Cheney would be) to please the warlords and lovers of violence, yet not good enough to woo Independents or Democrats. He is stuck being half of one half of the other depending on the stump location. McCain (because of his failure to be a maverick and leave the party after being bashed by Bush and sidelined by the establishment in 2000)has had to be the apologist for 25 years of Republican disasters while running on a message of change.

Sarah Palpatine-shameless as she is in her serial lies about being a Walmart Mom (with a $150,000 wardrobe,) Ebay selling lies, abusing her power as govenor for personal vendettas and keeping the money for the Bridge to No where- has invigorated the denialsit base by being consistently anti-American in favoring endless war in Iraq, taxes for the middle class and poor and a free ride for the rich, and reinvigorating the culture wars.

Should McCain win, we can be assured of a quick and violent death of what remains of America. Lacking the intelligence and good judgement to right the ship from a litany of errors and blunders on the world stage, America will join the Titanic on the bottom of the ocean of failed empires.

BIRDMAN
I know what you're saying but this is getting ridiculous.

I'm not looking for perfection; I'm just looking for a candidate that isn't either morally flawed or politically frightening.

First
And the Democrat Party is blameless in all of this. Right.

*sigh*

Can any conservative think rationally...
Can any conservatie think rationally about the possibility of restoring the 'equal time' regulation? No one has every provided a coherent argument for why restoration of this regulation would remove Rush Limbaugh and other conservative media folks from the airwaves. If the audience and advertising base remained for conservative talkmeisters, radio and TV stations will still carry them. I think what you rightwingers really mean is that you don't want ideological competition, that you prefer a monopoly. Sounds like pretty typical conservative thinking to me.

Gestell
If Liberal Talk Radio could make money they would be on now. The problem is they can’t compete with the Conservatives for whatever reason. The Fairness Doctrine much like Affirmative Action is about controlling outcomes not about having an equal playing field. If Liberal Talk Radio made money stations would be broadcasting them.

McCain's duty.
It is Senator John McCain's duty to win this war. er election. Our nation is depending on him and therefore all the good people in the world are too. I'd like to point out that all of the bad people in the world are hoping for an Obama win. I know, I know the Libs don't believe in good and evil. But they sure believe in POWER.

What's that quote from William Ayers? Oh Yea!

"Kill your parents ! ! !". (is that what you call anarchy or is it nihilism or is it change)

Just the kind of guy we need as an advisor to our president.

CONSERVATIVES-----IF McCAIN DOES NOT IT WILL BE ALL OUR FAULT.

VOTE___________McCAIN__________________________

First
No it is the Democrats with their power hungry,nontrustworthy socialist agenda that has disgraced and maimed us. But we can go back a few steps to the years of Reagan. With deep repentance we can go back and strengthen the good that remains.

Honesty and faithfulness to our spouses were 2 major character flaws we developed as a nation under the leadership of Bill Clinton and we have not recovered yet. George Bush's leadership has taught us how to be a caring, more humble people yet to fight for and protect our American way of life. But his questionable trust in the free market and his desire to show conservativism in a more caring light has gotten us into trouble.

Gestell
I can answer that for you..
The so called Fairness Doctrine will force stations to air something that doesn't SELL. If people wanted to hear liberal propoganda, they would have a market for it, and it would be on the air. From what I've seen, every liberal site FAILS! You are forcing a market based system to defeat itself by making them provide a service that no one wants to pay for....
I know, you feel like it's your RIGHT for others to do for you, so you won't agree with a free market. I also know trying to explain how business works will be merely shoved aside and I will be chastised by phrases such as neo-con, so some such rubbish. Realistically, I am a small business owner. I know what sells, what makes profits, and how the government can undermine my ability to compete in the market place. If that makes me a neo-con, then so be it.

Gestell
You are incorrect in numerous ways.

1) Newspapers and television are not included in this fairness. Why? because they are totally/ socialist/humanist/progressive whichever word you like.

2) The liberals are allowed now to have radio talk shows and do. They are not successful because well they don't have ideas just namecalling. So we already have fairness.

3) Talk radio has liberal callers. We do hear all sides of an issue. So it is more like open debate. If you have ever listened to Rush you will hear all sorts of juicy things that the libs in government and on television are saying. We also have pointed out all of the hypocracy of the left and that is what libs don't enjoy. It's all very entertaining and not angry. You should try it.

First
You forgot WARLORD BILL. He blewed up an aspirin factory. Didn't he?

COMING:THE CONSTITUTION v COMRADE BARACK
If, by some chance, a historic election upset doesn't happen on Tuesday (which I confidently predict WILL take place), and Comrade Barack Hussein Obama is the President-elect, please know that the truth abou his foreign birth WILL
come out shortly thereafter. When it does, America will purge the Kenyan-born Marxist from the White House. Hopefully, the truth will be known before January, so that the American people will not have to witness the oath of office being taken by a non-American.

My fellow citizens: Avoid this chilling scenario all together...just make sure that you, your relatives and friends get to the polls on Tuesday, and cast a vote for a true American hero, JOHN McCAIN!

Interesting tidbit
I saw a report today that there are 150,000 Federal Government Employees that make above $100,000 a year. How can business compete for a labor market that is outbid by the federal government.
I think there ought to be a $50K or 75K cap on Federal Government Employees so people will be less inclined to feed off of taxpayers money.
The Free market doesn't need a cap, it will be regulated by profits. The government doesn't have to worry about profits, if they don't make enough, they either print more money or raise our taxes to pay for it.
No free market system should have to compete with the federal government!
How many average Americans make that kind of money?

OBAMA & MYTH OF THE 60'S PARADIGM SHIFT
Excerpt from "Barack Obama, the Spirit of the Age and His Coming Defeat on Election Day


"In 1976 and 1992 conditions were ripe for a Barack Obama presidency. Those elections would have been his to win had he been running then, as would have 1964 if he had different color skin

But these are not those days; and today is not Obama’s day, no more than it was Hillary Clinton’s who would have taken the election if Obama hadn’t run. Obama wrongly believes that there’s been a major paradigm shift to the Left and that we’re in a 1960’s moment of radical change when its more like 1980 the year Reagan beat Carter for the Presidency and the Philadelphia Phillies won their first World Series Championship (see Chapter IX of John McCain, Hero of Destiny). Obama’s big government solutions, spread the wealth ideology (echoing the false promise of the War on Poverty where everyone would prosper) are as naive as they are obsolete and detached from living reality.

Click ApolloSpeaks and read my piece:
Barack Obama, the Spirit of the Age and His Coming Defeat on Election Day for new insights into the man and the resaons for his coming defeat.

THE FAT LADY DON'T SING UNTIL....
THE LAST POLLING PLACE CLOSES....

On Tuesday, November 4th,the MSM will be doing its best to discourage Republican voters that all is lost and that they just might as well stay home and get drunk, get depressed, or what ever else they can come up with.

On that day the MSM, the unpaid full-fledged wing of the Obama campaign, will state one or more of the following:

(1) Calls for McCain to just give up and quit, because the race is over.

(2) Wild claims of Obama winning states that is to shock and surprise you.

(3) Repeated insistence that blacks and young people will decide this election, and they are all going to vote in record numbers for Obama.

This is the same game they tried is 2000 & 2004 and we know how that turned out.

Republicans get out and vote

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/three-things-the-o bamedia-will-do-to-depress-republican-turnout-and-help-obam a/

My Laugh of the Day
Wobbie telling someone to grow a brain!! What a scream! I'll be laughing all day long! Oh, that's rich. I couldn't have made that up! What a riot!!

debt
The national debt now stands at 10.5 trillion dollars.
The interest on this debt for fiscal year 2008 is 450 billion.
To give an idea of how much a trillion is, if you went back in time one trillion seconds it would be before the Roman Empire.

Question
"The choice between these two candidates may be clearest when it comes to two signature issues: keeping the secret ballot in union elections (Barack Obama would abandon it) and taxing the capital that creates jobs. "

Is it possible that if secret ballots in union elections are done away with - that the same could happen in elections for public office??

Wal-Mart Wobbie
Good Day Robert, I didn't realize you have gotten off of the jet in front of Wal-mart. I figured this late in the day, that's where you would be.
Ok, for lesson one! the FREE Markets didn't dictate that any Bail Out money would be paid to anyone. An actual free market would be allowed to fail as well as succeed. The problem with the bail out, is the government stuck their nose in private enterprises, namely making sure people that couldn't really afford a mortgage were able to get one "No money down, low interes, no job, bad credit OK. When the government mandates, then the government must accept at least some of the responsability.That's what you libs fail to realize. If you leave business alone, it will thrive. If you dictate thier methods, they are at your mercy.
You take quite a bit of license with my statement and move the discussion on to General Petreaus. The study, for the public schooled, was federal employees. Not military, so don't try to stretch the argument to your agenda.
If these large divisions you are citing to me are so cumbersome, they should be done by private enterprise, the way every other company competes via FAR. It's the government that mandated that they are more able to deal with FAA, NASA, and CDC. How are they working out Robert?
Would you say these alphabet organizations are working at the peak of efficiency?
The only way you couldn't develop a level of expertise in the private market is if the market is overcome by Government meddeling

My My My
the trolls are out in full force today!

McCain Mutiny
Obamessiah may find those youngsters who were at first so enthralled don't all vote the way they were first inclined. And there are many, many African American voters who would fear for their lives if they admitted to voting for McCain.

Now that Joe the Plumber has arrived and exposed Obamessiah for the wealth confiscator that he is, and that Governor Palin has become the voice to articulate things that most conservative voters - white and black - feel, there is a mutiny against the press. Even ABC is starting to understand that it may have backed the wrong horse - even though it was one of those who helped make the race unfair and unbalanced. There is a mutiny afoot - and if Obamessiah does win, he'll have a huge number of Americans who will boo him at every stop and every word.

Like they did to Bush.
What comes around, goes around.

Oh, and Wobbie
Of all those institutions you mentioned, the David Petreus/Military example you mentioned is the ONLY one the Constitution gives the government the right to administer.
How's that for home-school?

OH
you're using a government mandate to override the need for a government mandate...
Ok, I'll accept your argument for pretty weak.
hahahahahahahahahahah

I pledge
to give as much support to Obama (if he wins) that George Bush got after people started forgetting what happened on 9/11 and started porking up the bills he needed signed just so he could complete the war.

Your argument that "whoever wins is going to inherit and (an) America that is in the worst shape and the most danger since the Great Depression" sounds like a perfect reason not to put an "on the job training" experiment into the Oval Office.

To borrow from you:
John McCain
Master and Commander

By the way, our Wal-Mart in Livingston got a new F-14 in the lobby. I know you'll enjoy it. I left a quarter under the coke machine for ya!

Are you better off than two years ago?
Obama asks if we are better off than we were eight years ago. That's not the right question. The Democrats took over congress two years ago. Once that happened gas prices went through the roof, deficits tripled and we had this economic crisis. Whenever Bush tried to veto a spending bill, like the farm bill, he got overridden. Now, after using the House and Senate to tank the economy they are running against McCain saying it is his fault? That is clearly absurd.

An Obama election would continue the failed policies of the last two years. We can't afford that. We also can't let somebody appoint Judges when they say, as Obama did in a taped interview, that they wish the Court system would do more to redistribute wealth.

He also believes that Born Alive infants after botched abortions should be left to die. His position is to the left of 97 Senators who voted for the Federal Law that mirrored the Born alive act that Obama voted against in the Legislature. Don't by his excuses now, listen to his words at the time. He said those infants had to be left to die because giving them medical care would "interfere with the women's choice to have an abortion." Apparently 97 Senators did not share his concern. That puts him to the left of the likes of Dianne Feinstein. He is simply too radical.

McCain is an honorable patriotic Conservative that has served his country his whole life. He's pro-Life and he understands that we need to cut taxes that are anti-growth. He will make a great President.

No votes have been counted yet. If you haven't already voted get out and vote McCain/Palin Tuesday, November 4th!

Stoic Patriot.
I didn't get your next lessons until I returned from my round of Golf.

You're good, really good. And here's the "but," You did not address my point about Paul Greenberg being an American first, though I admit I made that point rather subtly.

Also, the subject you raised, and I check-raised, is our handling of illegal immigration. As Louis B. Leaky proved, and pointed out, humans have been immigrating since their beginnings. The Romans were stoic enough and smart enough to handle it to their advantage. They failed when they tried to stop it -- all of it "illegal," by their rules.

And, every nation has acquired its riches and its workers by military conquest. That's the point of being a "nation," tribe, or clan -- as history proves. Yes, certain nations, us and Western Europe are trying not to do that anymore -- 63 years experience, trying to change a practice over 100,000 years old. The other 90% of the world are guessing that we will fail. I think they're guessing right. Vote for Americans, Conservative Americans, who value our military fist and foremost.

The illegal immigrants are about tenth down the list. I agree with you that we must turn it to our advantage, however we do it. Hey, we might just need their services in our military, as the Romans did. Many are already serving, and make up for all the college kids on student loans.

I better shut up.

Is McCain the perfect
Republican candidate? Certainly not. But he is a better alternative than Obama and his leftist illuminati ideals that are all about lying, racism, Socialism and the destruction of our Constitution.

Excerpt From "The Broken Branch"
How the Congress is Failing America and How to Get it on Track, by Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein:

On the explosion of Washington earmarks:

The House especially saw the danger in this process. The Senate was much happier to open the spigots and use the appropriations process to logroll and make each member happy. Earmarks took off in the Senate in the 1990’s and have risen exponentially, with senators of both parties eager to take advantage. Only Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has stood up strongly against the practice.

Vote for a proven leader on November 4.

McCain wrong on Iraq
John McCain's defenders keep saying that "we know him" (McCain) and "we don't know who Barack Obama is." (Of course, not knowing who Obama is doesn't prevent anyone from assuming he is a monster combining all the worst qualities of Robespierre, Benedict Arnold and Genghis Khan.) The trouble is, a lot of what I know about John McCain I don't like.

Example: Mr. Greenberg suggests we should judge McCain by his views on the "surge" in Iraq. But shouldn't we also judge him by his views on whether it was a good idea to invade, occupy, and take responsibility for Iraq in the first place? McCain supported invading Iraq and still apparently thinks it was a good idea; he would stay there another 100 years if he could. (Fortunately, even if McCain is elected, it doesn't look like either the American or Iraqi people will stand for his 100-year commitment.) A majority of Americans, on the other hand, now think invading Iraq was a disastrous mistake. So does Barack Obama. And by now, so do I. On that issue, at least, Obama shows better judgment than McCain. Maybe we are better off in Iraq because of the "surge" than we would be without the "surge". But we are worse off than we would be if we had not invaded Iraq on premises that were either mistaken (Saddam had weapons of mass destruction) or irrational (we can plant "freedom and democracy" at gnpoint in an Islamic country that has never known such a thing).

So that's one reason why, though I have little use for Obama, I'm not voting for McCain either (I'm voting for Bob Barr, the Libertarian).

WRH Bill
You probably heard McCain's remark about being in Iraq for 100 years in one of Obama's attack ads. The remark was taken entirely out of context. As Paul Harvey would say, here's the rest of the story:

McCain was comparing our commitment to a free and democratic Iraq to our many other commitments around the world, for example, in Japan, Germany, and Korea, noting, quite rightly, that we still have troops there 60 years years after the fighting ended. McCain did NOT say specifically that he "supported" keeping troops in Iraq for 100 years in the flippant manner that you (and Obama) portray. In answer to a question during a townhall exchange, "How long would he support troops in Iraq," what he said was that it was impossible answer, but that he supported keeping them there under certain conditions: 1) as long as the Iraqi gov't wanted troops there, 2) as long as our presense was needed to sustain the gains we made with respect to our reconstructure, counter-insurgency and political unification efforts, 3) until the Iraqi gov't could guarentee its own security (tied to the first condition) and 4)as long as American troops weren't dying there (like in Japan, Germany, Korea, etc). This was the historical comparison he made with repect to our troop commitments elsewhere in the world.

Obama had a lot of fun with McCain's townhall exchange, until even he stopped running the ads after hearing from his adoring press how misleading his ad was.

As for McCain being "wrong on Iraq," I'm aware of the conventional wisdom that is was as mistake. Reasonable people can disagree but the reality is history will judge and it may take many years to know. Remember what Mao said when asked what the consequences of the French Revolution was. He said it's too early to tell.

One thing we do know for certain: Obama was wrong on the success of the Surge, but he's not man enough to admit it.

And they said Bush was stubborn.

The Historian
Good read. The article underscores the American left's most politically potent little lie (among many) about Bush: That American foreign policy under his leadership has been a dismal failure. He’s certainly had his share of failures. All presidents do. But the reality is that the leaders who opposed Bush at the U.N. (notably in France, Germany and Italy) have long since been defeated, replaced by conservative, pro-American governments, who, while not entirely embracing the Iraq War (for domestic reasons), have supported American efforts to stabilize Iraq and bring peace and democracy to a region many thought impossible. Unbeknownst to most deranged Bush-haters, Bush has quietly built solid relationships with Western European gov'ts, including the UK, whose new PM Gordon Brown was expected to be Bush's biggest headache.

Likewise, Arab countries historically allied with the West quietly support American efforts in Iraq even while publicly calling for the immediate removal of American troops In reality that’s the last thing they want to see. While they may not be too crazy about having a democracy next door to them, or American troops on Arab soil, they are much more fearful of a resurgent, nuclear-armed Iran. Anyone who knows anything about diplomacy in the Arab world will know how the game is played there. The lesson is: Don’t believe everything you hear coming out of the Middle East.

Don’t get me wrong. As a Republican I would not vote for Bush again if he could run. But American leadership is needed more than ever, not a “peace at any price” administration more bent on precipitous withdrawal from Iraq so it can pay for it’s trillion dollar campaign promises and get the world to like us again.

va patriot
be careful what you wish for. you might get it. i agree with you regarding mccain's anti american attempt to encourage even more illegal immigration. if a miracle occurs, and the obamanation loses, then we will have our jobs cut out for us strenuously opposing the mccain and palin's desire to destroy our country by illegal immigration. unfortunately, obama shares mccains love of illegal immigration, and is wrong on every other point he has ever expressed an opinion. if obama wins, we will have our jobs cut out for us trying to stay out of the concentration camp. what do you think that large well funded civilian force is all about? brownshirts. it will be hard to oppose illegal immigration while in a concentration camp. ok, obamas preferred evildoers call them the gulag. think of being in the gulag, and quit pushing for an obama win. vote against obama, then we can oppose mccain as strenuously as possible regarding immigration. and i do mean vote against obama. there is no way i could ever vote for a proponent of national suicide, which, unfortunately, they both are.

garryb
"By the way, our Wal-Mart in Livingston got a new F-14 in the lobby. I know you'll enjoy it. I left a quarter under the coke machine for ya! "

LOLOLOLOL

Still laughing.

We have a new generation of voters...
...and through each new election cycle we have historically had a lot of disillusioned young people voting for a symbol instead of a man.

If we do indeed have a President Obama it won't be long before the newest generation of voters discovers that a liberal politician promising lots of "free" stuff will in reality deliver nothing of the sort.

Sometimes, voters need to learn a tough lesson.

Nausea
It sickens me to read some of these posts! Smug,lazy , and ill informed you keep posting.

The choice is so clear. We either vote to keep the U.S.A....,or we vote to lose it.

Barry Dunham has no sense of this country because in his formative years he did not live here.

We live in the greatest country in the world.Who are these absolute IDIOTS that would vote for hope and change with absolutely no idea what HOPE and CHANGE entails?

I don't take any satisfaction in
supporting McCain, though obviously McCain/Palin is a much better choice than Obama. I expect that should Obama win as expected, the US will emerge after 4 years closely resembling European states. Even casual observers are aware that their GNP growth does not compare favorably with the US. Neither does their inflation statistics, nor their unemployment statistics. So we can get used to tepid growth, high unemployment and high inflation. The only bright spot is Europe is essentially in a death spiral due to ignoring their own problems with unassimilated minorities. Their stats will rapidly grow much worse. I give us 25 years before we follow them.

moventure
We don't have 25 years.

At the rate we are going, what with the educational system already wedded to the collectivist ideas of European elites and the growing number of citizens inculcated with the idea that our health and welfare are products of government intervention, an Obama presidency, along with a Democrat control of Congress and the media, will cement our slide into Global homogeny.

The fix is in.

John in IL: couldn't read past the title
"Vote for the Honorable, Barack Obama"

If the subject line has a lie in it, what good is your post?

Barack Obama is not honorable.

End of discussion.


garryb: "ballot cattle"
That guy is AWESOME!

He's seen the damage and escaped from it. But like a conductor on the Underground Railroad of yore, he's come back for passengers.

Godspeed!




Historian: world opinion rant, part 1
It just kills me every time I hear about how much the world will love us if we elect Obama.

Yeah, sure, if they're talking about the machete-wielding, car-overturning, window-smashing, "necklacing" world of "community organizers" and their "coalitions of power" for "redistributive change", then yes, they'll love us.

But if you're talking about the working middle-class "first world" voter, who squeezed past the angry screaming wad of fascistic protestors in order to cast his ballot for Merkel, Sarkozy, Berlusconi, Harper, Klaus, Kaczynski, and all the other leaders who stand with us in the free-market world and in the War on Terror, then they're apprehensive, to put it mildly. All the effort they put in to align themselves with us, and we're about to drive off a cliff.

People, look at the elections in free countries around the world these last several years. The world has not rejected us like the Democrats keep saying it has: it has joined us, like we said it would.

Inevitably, when the Left jumps up and says, "no, it hasn't; you're just looking at the...," cut them off! The proof is in the ballot box!


world opinion rant, part 2
You owe this to your children and grandchildren. And yes, we even owe this to the children and grandchildren of the people who have voted around the world to stand with us. We owe it to them not to fall to the socialists.

We are the last best hope. To whom will they look if we fall?

People stand in huge lines to get to this country. People risk their lives crossing dangerous terrain to get to this country. (However you feel about immigration, everyone concedes what this says about us.) Where will YOU go when opportunity in this country belongs only to the government? What line will YOU get in? What desert will YOU cross?

NONE, because THERE AREN'T ANY. This is it. Right here. Right now.

It's a bad year for turning back ALL the socialists: they have the upper hand in this year's Congressional races. But if we give them the presidency too, nothing will impede them as they trample our Constitution, our way of life, into the dust.

"It doesn't matter." "I can't be bothered." Defeatism leads only to defeat. "Bush this, Bush that, and Cheney the other thing." They're not even on the ballot. There are no excuses: defend your country, and do it now while you still can.

For the love of God and Country, please vote for John McCain.

Europe: Security Welfare Queens
Europe wants Obama. How interested am I in Europe's opinion? The history of Europe is one of constant war, including the 100 Years War and two unnecessary catastrophic world wars. America prevented the third world war, standing up and defeating communism without blundering into a global holocaust. Europe creates monsters like Hilter and Stalin and then leaves it to the U.S. to stop them. All of western Europe would be a colony of the Soviet Union if it weren't for the United States. And don't forget their history of brutal colonialism. Apartheid, the Holocaust, colonialism, Stalinism, Communism, Facism -- all the horrid spawn of Europe.

Today they outsource their national security to the U.S. -- we pay to protect them, call that 'free security' or 'security welfare.' They are 'security queens' who bite the hand that saved their sorry asses. So I'm not interested in Europe's opinion of the U.S.

If Obama wins, America goes down -- that's what Europe wants. Then what --- the European Union runs the world's economy?

Martel said
" We owe it to them not to fall to the socialists.'

For the love of God, Charles, this country is not going to fall to socialists. For that matter, we already have socialist programs (railroads, mail, medicare, to name just a few) and McCain and Palin have hired very expensive writers to convince you that we are headed for some kind of commie-dictatorship.

Get a grip, ask yourself what you are personally getting from all this fear. Is it turning you on in some way? Do you not read enough differing points of view? Why are you choosing fear over reason?

Gut instincts
If you look into the eyes of the two presidential candidates (and that goes for their VPs as well), you will see which is the more authentic. And if you lack that discernment, just read their resumes. The illuminati trying to get one of them elected think most Americans are illiterate, apparently.

Sheer Faith
Do you mean the way Bush looked into Putin's eyes and found the same authenticity?

We have truly serious problems right now - gut instincts and "looking into the eyes" of the candidates just isn't enough. I wouldn't choose a baby sitter in such a way, why would I choose a president?

BTW, I've read the resumes. I've also been in AK. Enough said.

VA patriot
In the past 24 hours, I have read some interesting posts.

In the past 24 hours, a few obama supporters have let these things be known in advance:

HEAVYDOUG wrote alot of angry stuff on a thread about the Bradley effect and a possible McCain win. Among the things he said was that "white people deserve to have their throats slit in their sleep."

WILLIAM IN NJ warned another poster that "We have alot of bullets in the HOOD."

GEORGE in NY said that obama's victory will mean the "end of white rule" and that "white people must suffer humiliation" for a long time before being re-admitted to civil society.

And you're worried about those poor mexican yard men?????

jay cee
I think you're on to something there. Those of you who've looked into obama's eyes are likely to feel like President Bush does about Putin. Sorely disappointed.

Look on the bright side
Our soldiers will be part of NATO and can thus refuse to participate in actual combat.

There won't be any hurricanes. If there are, we can simply sit on our roof and wait for the government to come get us, give us money for new TV's and pay our rent for a couple of years in better places.

All those pesky Mexicans and Cubans will stop coming here seeking opportunity and freedom. It won't be any better, and at least in their own country they won't be part of the wrong race.

Europeans will have to look after their own backs for a change. No more Mr. Nice Guy coming to your rescue. Same goes for Canada.

Michelle will go to the UN to dispurse our global tax (a couple thousand per household is what barack has proposed) and she will end poverty in Africa.

We will understand the truth of Rev Wright's chickens coming home to roost.

Then the next term...

The stepford candidate
Ever notice there is no passion coming from Obama. yes he has a nice smile and his voice rises from time to time, but it's monotone. He has everything under control. But where is the passion. Everything scripted just right. Stepford like..when he has the teleprompter.
The glimpses we have of the real Obama speak volumes, even though he talks out both sides of his mouth. He has the art of Doublespeak/doubletalk down perfectly.

Charles Martel wrote:
"...who squeezed past the angry screaming wad of fascistic protestors in order to cast his ballot for Merkel, Sarkozy, Berlusconi, Harper,"

Just for the record my friend, there were no "angry screaming wads of fascist protestors" last month when I went and cast my vote for Prime Minister Harper (that is in Canada for those who don't know). He would have received a huge majority in Canada if not for one single province which wields way too much political influence, that being Quebec who fancy modeling themselves after leftists in France, of course.
Please don't lump my country in with the whackjob European socialists. If you elect Barack Obama you will have succeeded in placing into power someone who makes even the Liberal Party of Canada look far right, something I dare say, even left of the NDP which is quite an accomplishment!
Heck, even if you elect John McCain you have still moved well left of my government.
I know it is a favourite pastime of Americans to mock Canadians but we actually are the best positioned country, economically, in the G8 and it is largely because we have started to move back right after many years of disastrous leftist rule.
You are about to make the same mistake.

burkanuck: O[ops] Canada
Sorry, didn't mean to include Canada in that list. I realized that I had omitted Harper when I first typed it, then put him in there without noticing the unfortunate implication. No Canada mocker, I. (In fact, Dad was born in Manitoba.)

For the record, there aren't any angry screaming wads of anything in Canada, except maybe hockey fans.


Jay Cee in WA: nothing to fear!
"McCain and Palin have hired very expensive writers to convince you that we are headed for some kind of commie-dictatorship."

Actually, the writer worked for free. His name? Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

Q: "commie"?

A: "spread the wealth"; "coalitions of power [for] redistributive change," with the Constitution as an obstacle to be shunted aside when inconvenient.

Q: "dictatorship"?

A: "civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

You know, like Mexico's Federales or Haiti's Tontons Macoutes or maybe East Germany's Stasi. Harmless jobs programs for otherwise idle urban youths.

Oh boy. Can't wait for them to "get in [my] face".


America Hellbent on Suicide
America is hellbent on delivering itself to a young Hitler. For this we can blame George W. Bush and the neocons, who, with their senseless and ruinously expensive Iraq war, have engendered such hatred and revulsion that Americans can't wait another two months to get rid of them. Of course, with McCain you would get more of the same, because McCain is under the same neocon spell as Bush. Americans, wisely, have never wanted foreign wars. It is always an over-ambitious President and his followers who drag us into these disasters. Our war-mongering is now gong to result in a marxist revolution that will strip us of liberty, and the ironic thing is that the Republican party that is so eager to start foreign wars will do nothing to stop Obama's treachery, because they are cowards, frightened of being called "racist". All of the pseudo-courage that Republicans display when it comes to bombing goat herders 5,000 miles away suddenly disappears in the face of an Al Sharpton mob.
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