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Monday, July 28, 2008
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Class in America
by Paul Greenberg
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Why do politicians pride themselves on being working class, or at least having working-class origins? For the same reason 19th-century presidential candidates were almost required to have been born in a log cabin. Seven of them actually were. Then there were those who would like to have been for political purposes. It was a way of identifying with The People.

The People, not The Masses. In this country, we don't have Masses, unless you write for the Daily Worker. It would be un-American.

Also unrealistic. Americans may be farmers, but we've never been peasants. (Slaves, maybe.) It probably has to do with having skipped the feudal period. The very first Europeans to observe this strange new species of man in the New World tended to comment on our lack of subservience. Which cheered some, but horrified others.

"What then is the American, this new man?" Crevecoeur asked in his "Letters from an American Farmer" (1782), and answered: "He is an American, who, leaving behind him all his ancient prejudices and manners, receives new ones from the new mode of life he has embraced, the new government he obeys, and the new rank he holds. He has become an American by being received in the broad lap of our great Alma Mater. Here individuals of all races are melted into a new race of man, whose labors and posterity will one day cause great changes in the world."

A forerunner of Tocqueville when it came to analyzing/diagnosing this new kind of man, Crevecoeur tried to sum us up, but it's an impossible job. If we left behind old prejudices, we soon acquired new ones. And we've turned out to be less a new race than one that hasn't congealed yet, and may never, what with new ingredients being added all the time. Let's hope not.

It's always been a myth that America is a classless society, though it's a myth that has its uses. For what begins in myth may end in reality. If we pretend class doesn't matter, maybe one day it won't. At least not as much. Let's just hope we never reach the point of glorifying poverty, of extolling downward rather than upward mobility.

But romanticizing the poor has always been a staple of American discourse. William Henry Harrison, he of Tippecanoe and Tyler, too, used the log cabin as his campaign emblem. And he set the fashion.

Working class may be a term of opprobrium in some societies; here it is a term of approbation. At least publicly. It's the one class Americans feel free not only to recognize but laud.

A presidential candidate (Hillary Clinton) can risk sounding like a sociologist as long as she's identifying herself with the working class. Or at least claiming that it identifies with her and not her opponent. As when she asserted that "Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again," while whites "who had not completed college were supporting me." At least she didn't use euphemisms like "blue-collar majority.''

It's hard to imagine a presidential candidate, at least one with any political sense, running as the Candidate of the Upper Crust. ("I was born in a plush penthouse on Park Avenue.") Instead the lower crust is shamelessly flattered. It's the contemporary version of the old log cabin theme.

Something else hasn't changed: Much as the Andrew Jacksons and William Henry Harrisons extolled log cabins, they weren't about to live in one. Any more than today's politicians are about to take a vow of poverty.

I live for the day when some politician comes out and admits that, while being poor is no shame, it's no great honor, either.

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There Must Be A Study.
I can't prove it but I think being poor in America depends on how much booze one drinks and/or how well one socializes, with or without the booze.

I come from a rather large family that had very poor beginnings, immigrating here in the 1890s. Of the nine children of the original immigrants, the ones who drank a lot of booze stayed poor; the ones who sobered up by mid-life did very well from there on; the ones who never drank got very rich.

Yes, this is anecdotal and personal, however, observing all the other families I came to know, the same is true for them.

It's really that simple. Maybe that's why Hillary liked to be seen drinking booze: drunks are more easily convinced of anything, but they contribute nothing -- for the most part.

I know, I've been both drunk and sober. Sober is richer, long cabin or no long cabin.

Therefore, appealing to the poor is rather unseemly and untoward, and foolish. "Working Class," I don't know. Who isn't working class, except for the Kennedy types?

Class in America
What does it mean to say a society is divided into classes? If it means economic stratification, the concept has very limited utility. I thought the main feature of class was that it defined or limited your prospects in life and even those of your children. That certainly isn't true in America. The comment from the other reader "There Must Be A Study" is a case in point.

achievement versus genealogy
Americans have never observed the kind of class system that existed in Europe.

Yes, the Kennedy's and Bush's sent their sons to ivy league schools, but their families were not based upon European models of royalty.

In America, class and social status is largely dependent upon what you do, rather than who you are.

Bob Gates' activities placed him where he is, not his family name or heritage.

I am not much impressed with that part of Greenberg's piece which quotes Crevecoeur's definition of America as "individuals of all races...melted into a new race of man...".

There is no distinctive American race.

And some might argue with the suggestion that being American would or should consist of merging or melting all races into one, a kind of composite mixture of all races of mankind.

That sounds like social engineering to me.

At any rate, what is distinctive about America is that one's place in society is largely due to one's achievements, not one's familial history thru the ages.

And one's achievements irrespective of race, which is as it should be.

Populism
Populism has become tool #1 in securing votes in this country.

It works best when you take both sides of an issue, like Bush did not long ago, and many others did before his time.

That's the way it is.

And bi-partisan politics is at the very center of that problem.

I join our first president in protest.

Of course my only protest is not voting, and merely spreading word, but the past few elections have done wonders to get people to listen to what I'm saying about the issue.

Class Barriers
Class lines here are economic and permeable. In other countries class means your lineage, we mean your wallet. Having poverty in your past is a good thing, assuming your good fortune was earned because most people admire hard work and success. There is, however, undeniably a strain in certain of the Irish that find success unforgivable.

Class is only a big topic with Democrat academics and pseudo intellectuals. They use it to incite envy.

How curious
Most, if not all of the self-proclaimed champions of the working man are flaming libs who never held a real job in their lives. Their knowledge of work approximates my cats' knowledge of quantum mechanics, yet they shamelessly attempt to pawn themselves off as anything but the arrogant elitists they are. In private, they hold the great unwashed masses as stupid hicks who should kiss their feet, then work their way up. To wit: Yomamma's remarks at the SanFran fundraiser, or John Effing Kerry looking at a Philly cheesesteak sandwich with the expression of a man who just picked up a turd.

our ruling elite
We have become a country with a ruling elite. Another responder referred to the kennedys, he could just as well have included the Bushes, the Roosevelts, the Dodds, the Gores, and yea verily, the McCains and Jacksons also.
The days of the insurance man or the haberdasher ascending to the top levels in national politics are long gone. Presidential aspirants these days must begin plotting their strategy at an early age, including, but not beginning with the requirement of an Ivy-league background.
Senatorial and Congressional seats are now handed down from generation to generation. It has always been so, but it was never so obvious that the current generation couldn't carry their predecessor's underwear.
I'm always disgusted when a politician is rewarded with some Medal of Distinction or is lionized for "his 40 years of service to his country". These people are exceedingly well-paid, often with perks that would have made Cleopatra blush. They receive housing and travel subsidies, and very often leave public office much richer than when they entered it. Certainly no one leaves "public service" for a job at the local Burger King.
I am reminded that there are several definitions of service in the dictionary...very often the one that seems to apply is the one regarding animal husbandry.

There is also a different kind of class
The kind exhibited by the Ivy league libs who think their turds don't stink [bambi comes to mind] which is not very "classy" and the kind of real class exhibited by most of the good folks who make this country run and who have fought it's battles over history.

The first group seems to gravitate to democrat politics as real work offends them and their sense of elitism convinces them that the rest of us somehow need their enlightened "leadership". Pelosi and reid have done such a great job, [for their greenie friends]they have actually doubled the price of gas in just 2 years, imagine what bambi will do, he doesn't want to drill anywhere or build any nuke plants.

Periodically the American people get very sick of this hypocrisy and elect republicans to straighten things out.

This would be a good year to do that.

Class matters
Class matters today more than it did when I was a kid several decades ago. Back then Nixon could choose a Supreme Court head who had been to a law school no one had ever heard of. Today, it would have to be someone from Harvard or Yale. That's where the Dems get their presidential candidates these days, from Harvard or Yale. And most people who go to those schools are rich, or else they got lucky.

Yes, class matters, but the Dems don't do class very well. They used to own class, but now they don't because lots of poor people now vote Republican. Most Dems don't really believe this when I tell them, and they continue to think that the Republicans can't really be attracting poor people. But they do.

Seawolf, right on brother!
"Periodically the American people get very sick of this hypocrisy and elect republicans to straighten things out."

Americans elected George W Bush to clean up Clinton's mess.

Bush is a man from the heartland....he didn't attend some elitist snobby eastcost Ivy League that only wealthy hippie libs like the Clintons did.

Americans elected Bush, as Seawolf pointed out, to straighten out the mess that Clinton left America.

George Bush fixed the crappy economy that Clinton years left us, by finally cutting taxes...I heard Warren Buffet saved several million in taxes the first year of the Bush tax cut! And now, the wise one, Rush Limbaugh, will save another hefty millions of dollars from his newly signed $400 million contract. God bless America, God bless the conservatives and lets hope the commie libs never get their socialist fingers on OUR government again!

Vote McCain!

It seems today...
...that being "working class" compels one to demand extras or handouts from the government while making sure business is kept hamstrung. It also makes one easlily plucked by those who exploit their prejudices.

Being from solid working class origins, I've heard the standard cliches' all of my life such as "the Democrats are for the working man", or "for the little guy". By reciting those idiotic mantras, they believe they don't have to think, reason and read. And they don't.

They also perpetuate their own difficulties in life, but you can't convince the typical union member of that. Someone has made up their mind, and they'll willingly bash a skull or damage property in order to get their way. After all, it's "for the workin' man".

btw: I have a family member that has made millions representing the so called "working man". He has his multi-million dollar spread in Michigan and when the temperature drops, he heads south to his mega-expensive spread in Florida.

All he's ever had to do was demonize those who don't belong to unions and those who prosper by their own intelligence and personal risk. He knows how to play on the fear, envy and simple thinking of blue collar people, and it has paid off for him handsomely.

He even belongs to an exclusive club where working people couldn't afford the green fees.

I wonder if he sometimes hums the tune from Camelot, "what do the simple folk do?"

One melting pot, hold the ruling class
I have to respectfully dissent from everyman’s pessimistic view. Though at times it looks as if we have an elite class of rulers, there is still plenty of room for party-crashers.

I’ll offer up a recent example. Certainly most people on TH (including me) would not identify themselves as fans of his, but there is little doubt that Bill Clinton rose to the top of the political heap despite humble beginnings. Further, one doesn’t need to be a mendacious scoundrel like Slick Willie to achieve success. Look at the collection of names being tossed around as potential running mates for McCain. With the exception of Romney, who is far from a sure thing, where is the life of privilege among this field?

Sure, the elites (aha!) of the drive-by media like to spotlight their own kind, but we real people have a talent for throwing around our still-considerable weight in the political arena.

Class:
Your genetic make up is a big contributer toward what class you are in.

Trace your family & you will see that is true.

Prince Liberal
You have a really weird sense of humor:) Either that, or you don't seem to be aware that W is the the son of a president and the grandson of a senator with degrees from Yale and Harvard.

Everyman #7
Also, these 40-year-seniority members of Congress have not had a new thought or idea in the last 35 years. The only thing that occurs to them is more or higher taxes that they don't have to pay.
The idea that they won't acknowledge is the one to repeal all existing taxes, and replace them with a single, simple, fair, tax levied on living persons, which is all any level of government needs to funds its legitimate needs.
The democrats continually shaft the union members who keep voting for them. They haven't learned that taxes destroy their employers and their own jobs.

Class
We are all human beings with particular characteristics according to our heritage and genes, and to try to classify people into certain groups is really an excercise in futility! This only gives writers and politicians fodder for their talking points, and is a disservice to thoughtful people who know who they are and are not concerned about what how they are classified. The really important concern is how we relate to others and our creator. Every man's opinion is his own, mine as inportant as anyone elses! Relax, live and let live!!!

TR, "America's Elite"
One of the few elites who were capable of pulling this off was Teddy Roosevelt. He was able to because he was sincere in his admiration for common hard working Americans. He did this despite coming from a background of privilege as well as attending Harvard University. A sickly child who by sheer act of will transformed himself into a healthy vibrant young man who led troops(American Volunteer Group) in battle during the Spanish American War. The group of men he led in Cuba had Ivy League graduates serving next to illiterate cowboys, yet Roosevelt was able to mold them into a potent fighting force. Roosevelt was maybe the most well read and prolific author of any president to serve our nation yet is best known as the embodiment of the , “The Man in the Arena”(one of America’s greatest speeches). After serving as President, life became too tame for Roosevelt so he decided to take a trip down the Amazon River. His trip which is excellently chronicled in the book, “River of Doubt”, almost killed Roosevelt but highlights America’s admiration for elites who lead from the front.

Class snobbery
This is a favorite peeve of mine. America is a classless society. The most important feature of class systems is that everyone is set by law to follow in the footsteps of his father. Working is not a class and neither is middle income. It is just snobism on the part of what I call the self-appointed elite. Think about who pretends to be in this category, pols, media, and college profs. None have any real esteem. Polls show they are down there with used car salemen in terms of respect. But they pose and patronize those they call working and middle right up until they are convicted of fraud and locked up.

Elitism
We do have a definite class system. The problem being, the people occupying the neo-upper class are the actors and athletes that believe that the rule-of-law doesn't apply to them. Of course, without them, most "news" outlets would have nothing to report.

Prince Liberal:

Sarcasm aside, George W. Bush did inherit a mess from Bill Clinton. The great economy that we endured from Clinton was based on false, on paper only, businesses. Think the dot.coms, Enron, Worldcom, Tyco, etc. It seemed to be a great time for investors but the bust was on the horizon. I don't completely blame Clinton, but there was an atmosphere, at the time, that government wouldn't look into anyone's business, and didn't. Government oversite was downplayed over building a smoke and mirrors economy. Clinton left office just in time andt he doesn't get any blame for the bust that happened.

Government works on a 5 year plan. I think it's remarkable that the economy didn't go completely into the dumper in the early 2000's.

Also, I'm not rich but I really appreciate the tax cuts.


Prince
is trying to use sarcasm. Don't quit your day job...being a liberal. you probably don't have one

Class in America........................
Paul has hit a nail squarely on the head with this one. We are the people who toil and build this nation, not the bureaucratic self enamoured quick to make themselves rich politicians.
BO supposedly went from a life style of poverty while his father went to school and his mother worked maybe or lived off support from family or the government, I do not know. What I do know is he went from law into politics to Senator and is now running for President.
Only in America can the aversage joe go from poverty to being an overpaid wealthy person.
More Millionaires came out of Congress than Harvard or Yale combined.

The mulching of class and status........
To mean the same thing is a favorite past time of the under privillaged, and poor.
You can have all the money ever dreamt but have 'NO CLASS'.
Where as you may have class but no stature in society. We as general put the two into the same group and we should not.
Class is something you are taught as a child and nurtured into you by your peers and family. Class cannot be bought, rented, enherited or stolen, While wealth and fame can and most often are.
Everyone has their 15 seconds of Fame and fortune, for some it is more and others less.
My wealth comes from my children, grandchildren and my own labors. My class, what little remains of it comes from my parents and my wife, as well those I choose to associate with.
Dems and Bo Have none or even less than I do.

Lepanto and others
Oddly, I just read "River of Doubt" about a month ago, and yea, you're right: Teddy R. was an incredible one. I use the "R" so as not to confuse him with our current Teddy "K".
And yes, over the years America has produced as many (maybe more) Bill Gates and Henry Fords as it has Bush-leaguers 1 and 2.
Can "Right makes Might", who claims to be from Pennsylvania, deny the ascendency of the ruling class? PA includes Scranton, which every two years gives us a candidate by the same name. Our grossly oversized state legislature is full of former insurance men and car dealers, but then they accomplish very little besides voting themselves a pay raise every 4 years or so.
OBummer isn't elite? Don't tell his Harvard buddies that.
One abiding thing about America: in times of crisis we have been blessed with leaders who could say (and do) the right things. While I don't necessarily believe that WE are always on the side of the angels, I DO believe that God has always been on our side.
Somehow or another we will muddle our way out of this mess we have gotten into in the last 8 years. The presidency has lifted lesser men than Obummer and McCain to great heights, and w can only hope that it will happen again.
Where is Teddy R. when you really need him?

Here's My Take On It...
"Let's just hope we never reach the point of glorifying poverty, of extolling downward rather than upward mobility."

Too late! With the policies of the socialist Democrats, there will be no room for upward mobility. Even now, they want to tear down the upper class with their oppressive taxes.

They don't want to improve the lives of the poor by making them wealthier, they want to ruin the lives of the rich by making poorer. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I want to meet Bill Gates on my up, not on his way down.

Say NO! to socialism ... say NO! to Obama.

Follow in Dad
"The most important feature of class systems is that everyone is set by law to follow in the footsteps of his father." The American twist is this: most people follow in the footsteps of their father; and, furthermore, are given advantages to do so, advantages not available to people who want to follow a profession different from their father. (Examples abound, including George H. W. Bush and son; former Gov. John Sununu and his son, presently the Senator from New Hampshire, John Sununu; lawyers of the office of XYZ and son; father-son doctor practices; the "family farm", with the sons taking over from Dad when they get older; soldiers where Dad and Son (and maybe even grandson) are all in the Service; etc, etc.) Coalminer's sons typically become coalminers, and on, and on, and on. America does not require this by law, but it happens by custom, and individuals who wish to enter a profession different from their families' start with a disadvantage. This is especially true with the more lucrative professions. The ones who break the mold and succeed anyway get all the press because they are unusual and unexpected.

What do you think the American Dream is?
More "no harm in being rich" rhetoric. We may have finally come full circle where we worship the rich, and call the poor nothing but a bunch of losers and "whiners". If you start at the bottom and make it to the top, that was supposed to be what the "American Dream" was all about - that is part of the greatness of America, that there really are opportunities here that are not available in most other countries. What we are seeing though is too much of the rich getting richer at the expense of those trying to make it up from the bottom. And if you're black and made it up via the bootstrap approach - watch out - you're in danger of being labeled "arrogant" and "elitist". America at one time welcomed the poor; now we despise them in some circles.

Formerly "Soms"
You said, "It's really that simple. Maybe that's why Hillary liked to be seen drinking booze: drunks are more easily convinced of anything, but they contribute nothing -- for the most part."

To my recollection, I have only seen one photo of Hillary drinking, and heard one story about her drinking with McCain - yes, McCain - some years ago. what am I missing? How do these two occasions translate into Hillary being a "drunk"? Is McCain also a "drunk"? How are Hillary and McCain "easily convinced of anything"?

I'm sure, if you really believe what you write, you can back it up with facts and reason.

I'll look forward to your reply.







Russ
"Class is only a big topic with Democrat academics and pseudo intellectuals. They use it to incite envy. "

If this is true, and I'm sure you think it is, then Greenberg, who I always thought was one of the more thoughtful columnists on TH, must, in your eyes, be nothing but a pseudo intellectual and a Democratic academic.

Who knew?

Moonbat
"Most, if not all of the self-proclaimed champions of the working man are flaming libs who never held a real job in their lives"

My Gosh, you really believe this, don't you?
Where do you live? Who are your friends?

The only libs I know who never held a job in their lives are extremely physically disabled , and I only know one of those.

You obviously know a lot of people who have never worked - sorry! Maybe you could raise yourself up and find a better class of friends.

Seawolf said
"The first group seems to gravitate to democrat politics as real work offends them "

Are you a neighbor of Russ'? How come you guys know so many people who have never had a job? I don't even know conservatives who have never had a job.

Perhaps you should also improve your lot in life, you might meet more people - liberals and conservatives - who actually work for a living.

Butcher
Sorry, I was right with you about "class" being different from pure wealth and status, but your closing sentence, "Dems and Bo Have none or even less than I do. " was a definitely low-class thing to say.


Class warfare is big gov't business
Its why I have the job I do. At this point, I find "class" and personal prosperity is directly connected with personal values and priorities. Having more children than can be afforded is a common reflection of toxic self-will and ensures poverty- no gov't program can fix this. Drug and aclohol habits can take someone born with every advantage into homelessness and abject poverty. Unfortunately, our drug and alocohol services are well entangled with psychiatry/medical model treatment, which is expensive and largely inept in dealing with addicts and addiction.

My poorest kids all have cell phones, girls get nails and hair done, have ipods, regularly eat out, and get these amazingly expensive sneakers. My kids who are more middle class in terms of family income tend to have less frivolities than those on public assistance.

Bobzmcisch ( I think)
I don't find Americans despise the poor. What I see is a growing frustration with the incessant pillaging of hard-earned income, the mismanagement of tax dollars, and the creation of more "poor" and "downtrodden" by our social policies. People who plan their family size based upon what they can afford are rightfully angry when they are taxed to pay for those who do whatever they want and somehow are elevated as victims to be catered to.

Most Americans- in my estimation- are angry about behaviors rather than the financial standing of American poor. Some of the newer social workers/school staff are shocked when they see our "poor" driving nicer cars than we can afford. That's one of those things we are told is a "myth" in college.

Bobzmcishl: American dream
I always thought that the American dream was the idea that if you worked hard and played by the rules you could enjoy a fairly prosperous life. When I was growing up near Pittsburgh some 40 years ago, a young man could get out of high school, get a job in the mill (with good wages, benefits, and stability), and make enough to buy a house, raise a family, and take a vacation every now and again. That's why their grandfathers had come from Poland and Italy and that's why their fathers had built the labor movement.

You really can't do that anymore. Certainly not without a college degree, and even then your likely to phase a stagnant income and the risk of your job being sent off to India:(

oldsocialworker
"Most Americans- in my estimation- are angry about behaviors rather than the financial standing of American poor."

I agree with you to a great extent, but I'm curious about (and I really don't know) to what extent the poor that you see in the course of your work actually represent everyboy in America who is sinking below the poverty line.

There are homeless people who work every day - we've all seen them, or know people who work with them. In the course of your job, do you have much contact with these people? Do you see many elderly who are barely making it but also don't leave their homes?

Generally, when you read or listen to people who wer born into poverty but have risen above it, you find that they had at least one role model who worked every day, whether it is a parent or a teacher. I'm not saying it's all as simple as that, but I think it makes a difference.


Colorado Dems FORCE Co-ed bathroom bill
SB 200: The Bathroom Bill: Colorado recently enacted SB 200, a law that opens "public accommodations" - including public restrooms - to members of the opposite sex. In the name of protecting trans-gendered individuals from discrimination, Colorado has paved the way for sexual predators to take advantage of the confusion caused by this law - and endanger women and children. Read the bill in its entirety below. SB200 is the bill. Cut & paste if neccessary. TIM GILL is the financial backer for the bill.
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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26781&s=rcmc#cont inueA

My brother the union member 1
You oppose my Total Tax Reform plan called “One Tax And Done”. Do you really enjoy seeing many union jobs taxed out of existence? There is something that you haven’t considered:

It is your duty to sell the plan. It is your duty and responsibility to your union, to go to your union meetings and remind the other members that they pay a lot of money to the union as dues, and that a lot of that dues money is given by the union bosses to state and federal Democrat-party politicians to keep them in office. It is also your duty to remind the membership that these Democrat-party politicians are constantly passing more and higher taxes. These taxes have forced and continue to force many tens of thousands of employers out of business, out of the state, and out of the country, along with all the many jobs these employers provided. This is called outsourcing, and taxes are one of the main reasons for it. Hershey’s closing of the Luden’s Candy factory is a good example of this. Luden’s is a union shop, and the union jobs are going to Mexico, India, and Red China.

These same Democrat-party politicians are also trying to get amnesty for the many millions of illegal aliens. Ask members of construction unions, who have already lost their jobs to illegal aliens, about this.

The politicians you are paying to keep in office are taxing millions of union jobs out of existence. Remember that, in 1990, these Democrat-party federal-level politicians greatly increased these taxes to force tens of thousands of employers to put millions of Americans out of jobs, to anger the people and get President Bush out of office. In 1991, the democrat-controlled state government did the same for no apparent reason other than “they could”. How many union members lost their jobs? Did the politicians ask for union permission to destroy jobs? All union members are paying the politicians to cut union members’ throats!!!


My brother the union member 2
You must get the membership to send the local union boss to the state union boss and to the national union boss. The state and national bosses should go to the state bosses and national bosses of all the other unions. All the union bosses should go to the state and federal politicians to tell them that they will not get any more money, support, and votes until they repeal all these destructive, union-job-destroying taxes and get rid of the illegal aliens who are taking union jobs. If they don’t repeal the taxes and deport the illegal aliens, use the primary election to give your support to another candidate.

At this time, the state and national bosses can give copies of “One Tax And Done” and “How To Get Rid of Illegal Aliens” to each politician. I’ll follow this letter with state and federal versions of it. You probably haven’t thought about it, but if all those taxes had been repealed by 1946, we would have one of the best railroad systems in the world, and you wouldn’t have to worry that Amtrak might go under and your job might not last for ten more years – a concern you’ve expressed to me. The money that these taxes take from Amtrak is needed by Amtrak to stay in business and provide jobs; and the jobs taken by illegal aliens are needed by you and your union brothers.

claire scott
you said "This is a favorite peeve of mine. America is a classless society. "

This is so wrong, so naive that it hardly deserves a response. I have travelled with the very poor, the working class, and the very rich in my life and if you think there are no classes in America you are living in a closet.

Classes are characterized by differing senses of entitlement, opportunities, world views, social views, freedoms and choices.

It's time to get out a little and see for yourself.

obama-new-deal plan mike-tex
if your new million dollar home is complete with large patio area a nice swimming pool it will be part of obama,after school program.called-fun-start.also starting around 8pm.tents will be set up for the homeless around pool area.obama man talked with castro,and in his first state of the union-speach said it worked very well there for years.
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