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Sunday, June 01, 2008
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Things I Don't Believe
by Paul Greenberg
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The day's news continues to deliver a bountiful crop of theories, explanations, analyses, opinions and observations that I don't for a minute believe.

For example:

Raising the tax on capital gains is going to produce more capital. But when you tax something, aren't you bound to make it less, not more, plentiful?

This brilliant idea is as sound as putting a "windfall profits" tax on the oil industry and expecting it to produce more oil.

Didn't we try this with the Carter administration at the tag end of the 1970s? The results were as disappointing as much of the rest of the Carter administration: another bureaucratic maze that did little or nothing to help the consumer and a lot to hurt him.

The windfall profits tax of the Carter years was, however, a dandy way to cap every small well in the country. And reduce production in general. (Why produce more in order to have the profits taxed away?) A tax is a great way to cut down on supply and therefore increase demand and, with it, prices.

(Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, please note.)

Here's another tried and failed idea, or rather assumption: Appeasing dictators - like North Korea's Kim Jong Il - will make them tractable and forthright.

Abandoning the Iraqis will bring peace in our time.

(Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, please note.)

The current economic bump/slowdown/recession will continue indefinitely. But it's no more permanent than the boom that preceded it. Not till the business cycle is outlawed will economic trends go only one way.

Remember how the dot.com boom was the New Paradigm? Before that, the Roaring Twenties were going to be the start of a permanent New Era. Instead, we got the biggest Depression of them all. There is still a tide in the affairs of man, and it goes both in and out.

How about if we wall ourselves off from the world's economic troubles by going back to high tariffs and forgetting free trade? The way the historically high Smoot-Hawley tariffs, imposed during the Hoover administration, guaranteed the prosperity of the 1930s. Right.

The best solution to any economic problem is to lower interest rates even further, print more dollars, and in general inflate the economy.

Economics is an impersonal science in which individual personalities - their innovations and contributions - don't matter.

Politics has nothing to do with culture, and vice versa.

Our basic problems are economic, not cultural.

Ethanol will cure our energy problems without creating others. The law of unintended consequences has been repealed.

Economic reforms will make Communist regimes - like Mainland China and Castro's Cuba - model democracies.

Arms control ended the Cold War, not American determination to win the arms race and confront the Communist threat.

Manners are only superficial.

Abortion is the answer.

Shorter sentences and more paroles will discourage crime.

Leaders don't matter.

Character doesn't tell.

Moral authority isn't essential in a president.

Television is a cultural boon.

The traditional family is outdated.

It takes a village to raise a child. (Actually, it takes a family.)

Teachers' unions have improved education.

Religion is the opiate of the masses. (Actually, socialism is.)

Give people bread and circuses, and they'll be satisfied.

The masses, unlike you and me, don't know any better.

Government has the answers. (It may not even have the questions.)

And so unbelievably on. Name your own favorite fallacy.

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Well put!
Exactly Mr Paul. These are the things the Marxist-socialist dims would have us believe. How could they have such short memories, or low intelligence to want to put us through these horrors again? Weren't most of these tried by that old fool Jimmeh Cotta who nearly destroyed our country? Just shows what one idiot in the executive with an idiot democrat congress can do. God help us.

El Rexbo
Memory has little to do with it. A large percent of those who believe many of the notions Greenberg does not, were not born when they were tried and failed. A dismally high number of these people believe history starts when they become aware. The older folks who persist in sticking to these tempting and fallacious ideas, are just plain out of it. they are incapable of accurately observing what is going on, or deriving any sensible conclusion from what they experience. The school of hard knocks is a harsh teacher, but many people will learn in no other.

What You Should Believe:
The negative list can be long, but it is much more productive to focus on what has made us the greatest country in the history of the world in terms of economics, technology, diversity, military strength, and just about any other measure:
1. Opportunity;
2. Personal responsibility;
3. Care for the less fortunate.

http://www.RightinSanFrancisco.com

"We're from the Gubmint"
"And we're here to help!"

Here is a fallacy
that continues to get wide acceptance:

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

But here is a truism
The friend of my enemy is my enemy. You aid and abet my enemy, you're my enemy, simple as that.

i.e. Homosexual marriage...
will last forever when studies in US and Canada indicate the true "gay" pattern is for many partners over a disease=shortened lifetime.

Tea Party 2008 Urgent !
Subject: Tea Party 2008 - Urgent!
America is taxing and regulating it's way into oblivion and poverty at an astonishing rate. Our "leaders" are nothing but cheap, corrupt con men (and women) vying for votes at all cost, no matter what it takes. Decent individuals won't apply and our country suffers because of this.
On a State level, many have priced themselves out of the market by excessive taxes and regulations and now they expect to be "entitled" to Federal bailouts (which all Presidential candidates are promising). California, Michigan and Ohio are pretty good examples, they are, simply put; bankrupt.
Productive investments are increasingly finding more favorable environments in Brazil, Russia, India and China.
If we, the people, don't start uprising now, it will be too late (might already be too late) so, it's either a 2008 version of The Tea Party or "death".

History is what happens in my lifetime
I have been trying to explain to my younger colleagues, who keep on shrieking that *the era of cheap fuel is over!* that in fact *cheap fuel* disappeared in 1976. The children of Generation Whine will be shrieking that *the era of cheap fuel is over* when they have to pay $7 per gallon instead of $5.

*Cheap* is relative, and always seems to mean *the lowest price I have paid in my lifetime.*

These are the same people who start threads on racing forums asking *Is Michael Schumacher The Greatest Driver Who Ever Lived?* and look totally blank when anyone brings up Fangio. Or even Mario Andretti. Or, these days, Alain Prost!

More malignant fallacies are:
there is no right or wrong, it depends on your point of view.

If it feels good, do it.

All values are equal but different.

The most important things in life are being happy and self-fulfilled as you define it.

We are each our own gods.


Those are assumed truths in the counseling world. All very icky, really.

Another Fallacy
That getting torches and pitchforks and going into D.C. and cleaning out that nest of vermin will do nothing to fix our problems.

put a tax on being liberal
If only we could put a tax on being liberal maybe there would be fewer of them.

Ethanol
"Ethanol will cure our energy problems without creating others."

I'd modify this one to ethanol made from corn. Brazil is doing very well with ethanol made from sugar.

fallacies are seductive.
If economic reforms will not make communist regimes into model democracies, will such reforms turn impoverished third world nations into model democracies?

Or backward Islamic states into model democracies?

I have my doubts.

I agree with Greenberg on the limitations of economic reforms.

It is more than a matter of mere economic reforms.

A cultural awareness that extols individual rights and initiative, tolerance for dissent, respect for other belief systems, and ability to freely criticize the existing order or system, must exist.

Greenberg includes among his fallacies the notion that the masses, unlike you and me, don't know any better.

But I am reminded of the quote from Winston Churchill that "the best argument against democracy is to have a five minute conversation with the typical voter".

Can't argue with old Winston on that one.

Winston also said democracy was the worst form of government, except for all the others.

But Winston's best one is "the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, and the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries".

Media Fallacies
Well written, this commentary points out the obvious that so obviously needs to be pointed out. A media that is populated by "Move On" sympathies does little more than restate old and disproved axioms of the left. There is little new for them to say, even the words "change" and "hope" are tainted by their distain of the American intellect. If they are not spouting or writing the words then the ideas of others are "race baiting" and worse. How arrogant can you get? Wait and see, it only gets worse as you peel away the layers.

Some More
The government has money.
The government paid for my education.
The government paid for my drugs.
Fact: The Government pays for nothing. The government has no money and it cannot earn money. If you went to school on a college Federal Grant, you are a de facto beggar, you could have done the same thing going door-to-door with a cup and begging money from your neighbors. All the government did was save you embarrassment and hide from your neighbors the fact they were paying your college costs.

The pendulum will swing back. This statement is only true in a properly working pendulum modulated clock.

JFP
Yes, Brazil's is from sugarcane, and from what I understand is far, far more efficient a fuel than is corn-based ethanol.

Wow!
This could be a presidential platform!


A big fallacy
is thinking ethanol will solve anything in any form no matter what it is made of.


Filled with bad advice and straw men
I don't believe in misguided, myopic, simple-minded advice like this.

"Walling ourselves off" is not proposed as an answer, nor is "free trade" the answer; "balanced trade" is. Greenberg is unbalanced. Read "Bad Samaritans" that explains how this country was built by protectionism. If you're unwilling to protect this nation's economy, what are you willing to protect? I don't believe the myth that the Smoot-Hawley tariff caused the Great Depression; it was the kind of speculation and wealth inequality (producing too little demand) just like we have now. The $706B "trade" deficit in 2007 reveals that we're in a "trade" war and those like Greenberg have surrendered. Google "Jobs & 'Trade' Data Update May08" to see the disaster "free trade" has brought.

Among other things, I don't believe that invading and occupying Iraq will bring "peace in out time" as Greenberg implies it will.

This is a sad commentary attacking straw men with a vengeance and revealing the delusions of "conservative" thinking.

Obama is a liar .......
I don't believe anything this pandering piece of poofery has to say.

Carter did not fix the price of oil
Nixon did in 1971 in his infamous "90-day freeze" of wages and prices. While most of the frozen provisions were removed before he left office, the baying wolf of hyper-inflation was already evident and Nixon, Ford and Carter all feared revoking the price controls of oil. Nixon believed in the freeze. Ford believed in campaign buttons rather than policy. But eventually, Carter forced Congress to overturn the price control regimes and by 1982, oil prices were again set by the market. Carter was arguably the worst president ever but he can be credited for two accomplishments. That was one and appointing Paul Volcker as Fed Chairman was the other.

Let's try to get our facts straight.

I'm from the govmt and I'm here to help
Yeah, like Social Security is helping us. We were infinitely better off as a nation when help was given from the heart. Now, that help is hijacked from our salaries and squandered by bureaucrats, we've lost the joy of giving, and those who truly need the help don't get it. Mental note to Democrats.

Boutte
A truism for you, "it is best for one to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt". It is indeed disappointing that any Americans believe the pseudo-intellectual crap so common to the vastly deficient left. So you have done your duty for the day, regurgitating the unsupported anti-intellectual spew from left-wing web sites while proving at the same time how doltish and illogical the left truly is, nice work!

2 brownie points for Boutte, marching orders perfectly executed without an ounce of logic or reason!

BTW, the oil/inflation dilemna
The reason removing price controls from oil was so difficult was because Nixon violated the most important assumption that made the Breton Woods I agreement work, he "firehosed" the world with a tidal wave of dollars thus undermining the dollar and making hyper-stagflation inevitable. Just like the Bush administration just did. Get ready for it. It's coming.

How can you argue
with thede statements regardless of party affiliation? How can we convince the liberals when we cannot convince our own party members who SWAY? left? Left turns only work in auto racing.

Monetary Reform
Without wresting control of our monetary sytem from the international bankers, we will continue to have "business cycles",liquidity crises, increasingly worthless dollars.

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws." -Mayer Amschel Rothschild, international banker

The DVD "The Money Masters" (themoneymasters.com) is 3-1/2 hours of the history and misery caused by central banking quoting many presidents and historical figures.

"Money as Debt" (moneyasdebt.net) gives a simplfied understanding of fractional reserve banking.

Much can be learned from these two documents: 1) the need for complete transparency in our monetary policy & decision making, 2) removing bankers from the control of the system, 3)the Federal Reserve CREATES inflation & the business cycle, 4) The Federak Reserve is a privately owned entity, 5)politicians are reluctant to openly discuss monetary reform, as the wrath of the wealth controllers is unlimited.

There are none so blind as those who ..
There are none so blind as those who will not see! This covers most elected officials, but especially the Dumbocrats (forever) & the current bunch of Republicans! And the rest of them are corrupt crooks - Federal, State, & Local!

Hi, I'm a Conservative
You're a scientist, I know better than you about Global Warming.

You're a blue collar working man, I know what's best for you about economics, I mean about free trade, you know, and the free market and all.

You're a teacher, I know better than you about education and teaching kids.

You're a black person, I know that you don't take personal responsibility for your life. Shame on you.

You're a single mother. We'll, you got what you deserved. I never would have done such a thing. I know better.

Hi, I'm a conservative. I know what's best for everybody else.


TruLib #11
Tar and feathers. Don't forget the tar and feathers.

Bob
But I bet you DO believe the science is settled, global warming is a fact and is caused by man and especially his profligate use of fossil fuels.

Proud Lib
You know as well as anyone that personal responsiblity never got anyone anywhere.

You buy the Global-Warming, Man-Made, hoax,
you buy the teachers'-unions-know-best fallacy,
you would have loved Smoot-Hawley.

Dang, dontcha wish youda run for pres? There's a 50-50-50-50 chance youda won!

Pasadena Phil,
Wake up, and read the article, which says nothing about price controls, but refers to the windfall profits tax.

Polly & Global Warming & Breton Woods
Yes, the science is pretty much settled and, yes, it's caused by man. Google: "Global Warming: An Inconvenient-to-Understand Truth" to see why it's so easy to obfuscate the issue.

Also google "The Oil Shocks of the 70s" to understand what happened then. Pasadena Phil is correct on Nixon violating the Breton Woods agreement; what happened then is happening again.

Proud Lib
Tell you what, I'll make a deal with you. You say the repubs don't care about anyone and dems do. 1.) Convince Gore to live the way he wants everybody to and2.) convince the libs to extend a troop funding bill that has no pork what so ever and I'll vote dem. I'm not going to hold my breath, if you don't mind as I don't want to expire. That's die if you don't understand. I'll bet I never in my lifetime, have to vote dem.

Convince Gore to live the way he ...
This is one of the worst of the "conservative" fallacies. This says, "You have no right to work for a change in the rules until you live by the new, not-yet-accepted rules so those of us who are irresponsible can free ride on those who do." Google "Book Review: "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy" by Peter Schweizer" "systems thinking".

And somehow you forget that Republicans set new records for pork when they were in control. Funding the continued occupation of Iraq and war profiteering isn't "supporting the troops" and neither is Republican opposition of the new GI bill providing improved education benefits.

I was a registered R for 17 years out of pure ignorance ... no more.

Bob writes:
Subject: Convince Gore to live the way he ...
This is one of the worst of the "conservative" fallacies. This says, "You have no right to work for a change in the rules until you live by the new, not-yet-accepted rules so those of us who are irresponsible can free ride on those who do." Google "Book Review: "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy" by Peter Schweizer" "systems thinking".

Actually, it is the heighth of hypocrisy to insist that the rest of us conserve, modify ourr behavior, and live according to a new standard of living, while not doing so yourself, ala Gore.

Things I Don't Believe
I like the one about Government has all the answers.

The way I see it, the problem is the politicians don't understand the questions.

Free Trade fallacy
Free trade leads to more properity. That is economics 101.

The theory goes, USA produces food and airplanes more efficiently and so we produce those and let China make garments and electronics gizmos. So in terms of how many hours I work to afford a big mac or a flat panel TV or a car, USA is by far the cheapest and we enjoy the result to excess. (It is not without basis that we are an overweight and a throw away society.)

That said, there must be a strategic balance to the free trade model. One does not outsource airplane making lightly, nor military systems.

If we have a trade war with China, everyone will wear clothes longer before throwing away, and get less goodies for Christmas. Not a problem. But no one can seriously say we as a nation can stop driving.

Energy production as an issue has been under-served since the oil mebargo of the 70's. Export gains lags real cost of oil import and that has been going on since 9-11 (under 50 per barrel to 130 per barrel today). How many million barrels? That is perhaps a bigger trade imbalance problem than China. (At least China would not bid up oil futures.)

So the not-in-my-backyard philosophy of our energy production interfered with the free trade model and until we can demonstrate a will towards obtaining energy independence, free trade is not an answer.

Legal immigrant.

Proud Lib is obviously right
That's why literacy levels have climbed ever since the profession of teaching has been self-regulating.

That's why temperatures have been rising for the last decade despite what global thermometer records have said, and that computer models are more accurate than reality.

That's why professional, successful black citizens uniformly vote Democrat, whilst the poor welfare cases (who don't know any better) vote Republican.

That's why blue collar workers tend to support the Dems and the rich elites in old-money East coast and fantasy proving West coast tend so overwhelmingly towards the Repubs.

That's why more money for single mothers (the best way to raise a child, within a village) always results in less single mothers.

That's for the platform for more items that thinking people don't believe.

Nothing wrong with being a proud liberal
I am a moderate conservative and proud of it also! There is nothing wrong with being a proud liberal. It is what you do as a proud liberal that is important! I find many liberals reasonable and likable. We can disagree and have the factual information, honestly & clearly presented and discussed, for what we believe. It those "proud" liberal who are try to shove down my throat their beliefs, who try to shout me down, and act like I just fell off the turnup truck that I do not care for. So you latter proud liberal take a long walk on a short pier!

Bob
You lack fact with me. See I'm one of those Viet Nam Vets that used my G.I. bill to go to college. The difference from what you want is that I also worked to suppliment what I recieved. I was also married at the time. See, what you are telling the troops is that after fighting this enemy, they don't have the backbone to do what I and many more just like me did.
And as to your answer about Gore, thats just like telling your kids not to smoke dope while you light one up. What, his polution doesn't stink? His Carbon footprint doesn't cause the same said problems as ours? Get real!! He's just looking to make a fortune off the regular person on the street. I wonder how much stock he's got in the companies that make the products used to be "Green"?

Socialism Only Works
When you can get the media to blame the wrong people, fabricate and manage the news and actively promote lies and distortions as the only and sole truths that exist in the universe.... Oh Yeah, they already do that and call themselves "objective"

Perfectly written
true to the last word.

Even the negative responses prove your point. ie, nobody said invading Iraq would bring peace in our lifetime- but that pulling out definitely would not.

Fix one problem, create 3 others - eg, the demand for sugar cane in Brazil for the purposes of creating ethanol to be used as fuel has raised the value of producing such sugar so well that now lots of "useless" forest is being removed and replaced with income-earning farmland.

eastlake joe
Nobody said? Gee, how quickly we forget. Bush and his neocons were fond of saying, "The road to Jerusalem runs through Baghdad." That is, not only would there be peace in Iraq, the invasion and occupation of Iraq would also lead to peace in Israel and Palestine.

eastlake joe last post was to Phanerosis
An amazing display of "logic" which should produce incredible cognitive dissonance. Wanting a new GI Bill for the troops is somehow saying "they don't have backbone." Tell that to Jim Webb.

Media doesn't fail us-we do!
Just looking at the comments here demonstrates that the American people have become rabidly issue oriented. Pick your favorite bone and give your best argument--- and when you do, you become a player in the tragic play called "America Today". It doesn't matter if your argument is logical and backed by concrete facts. The bottom line is that we have lost direction, and we demonstrate that, whenever we debate issues. We are so deep in the trees that we cannot see the forest! If you only do one thing on the internet today, use your time wisely: Go to newswithviews.com and READ the comments by Joe American regarding civics and issues as a distraction. You will see that the real crisis in this country is that it is suffering from ignorance of the Constitution and common law, also known as natural law. The myopic views of the various politicians, groups, commentators, et al are reflected in the media. It holds a mirror to OUR faces individually whether you believe it or not. When enough people wake up and see the insanity we call "intelligent discourse" as nothing but a mud bath that includes us all, we will never survive---- as the United States or as a culture. It's your INDIVIDUAL choice. Do you believe in self reliance? Do you believe that these states were established primarily to "insure justice" for the INDIVIDUAL? Do you believe in economic liberty? THEN STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN AND "JUST SAY "NO" to the insanity.
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