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Monday, May 05, 2008
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Wright Stuff
by Paul Greenberg
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If the Rev. Jeremiah Wright will just keep talking, talking, talking on television and in the pulpit, before the National Press Club and who knows where next, he may yet succeed not only in sinking Barack Obama's presidential campaign but stirring such a reaction that, against all odds in this year's anti-administration climate, he'll succeed in electing the Republican presidential nominee.

It's happened before in a way. All the yippiefied tumult at the Democrats' Daley-dominated convention in 1968 drove Americans to reject both warring factions, recoil in disgust from the whole orgy of anger and disorder on display, and elect the original comeback kid, Richard M. Nixon, president of the United States.

A spectacle that could make the ungainliest of politicians, our own Richard III, look irresistible had to be mighty repellent indeed - much like the rhetoric of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago. As a preacher he's one heck of an effective politician - for the opposition.

A former congregant of the Rev. Wright's is now of some prominence in national affairs. The Hon. Barack Obama first tried to dismiss his old mentor as some kind of eccentric uncle. But the senator may have grievously underestimated both Jeremiah Wright's staying power and his sheer, inexhaustible capacity for embarrassing the nice, reasonable Barack Obamas of this world. For the senator's opponents, the reverend is the gift that never stops giving. More, surely, is to come. And the senator's critics can't wait.

The Rev. Wright's latest tour de farce took place at the National Press Club in Washington, where he claimed his critics were really attacking his church: "This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright. It is an attack on the black church."

Goodness. I've been in more than a few black churches in my superannuated time - and have found myself unable to keep my arms from flying up in autonomous exaltation at certain uncontainable moments. Nor could I keep from joining the chorus of affirmation after affirmation (A-men! Yes-s-s-!), and from wanting to shout Hallejuah! at climactic points. Just writing about the black church makes me long for its warm comfort and restoring strength.

And the music! If you have not prayed with Mahalia Jackson, wanting deep in your heart to Move On Up a Little Higher or sought strength to Keep Your Hand on the Plow despite everything, well, you have a wealth of spiritual renewal ahead.

But as usual, I've gotten carried away when the subject is the black church, which, come to think, may be the whole object.

And yet for all the stirring sermons and songs I've heard at such churches, at little AME chapels in the heart of Dixie or in the majestic halls where famous gospel singers perform, not once, never, have I ever heard anyone demand that God Damn America a la the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Or try to deflect criticism by saying it's really his church that is being attacked.

How brave of the Rev. Wright to hide behind his church. As if it were responsible for his offenses. And what a slander to blame the black church for his own cheap provocations, his base entertainments offered in the guise of spiritual nourishment like stones in place of bread.

At the National Press Club, the reverend said he would "try to respond in a non-bombastic way," but of course he failed. He could no more stop being bombastic than he could stop being the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Faith? Hope? Charity? Love? His bombast obscures them all. But not till his performance at the press club had I realized the extent of his blind rancor, his addiction to empty polemics above all, his spiritual bankruptcy.

Barack Obama was quick to respond this time. He's learning. The senator said he was "outraged" by his former pastor's attempt to blame his own failings on the black church.

Not just Barack Obama should be outraged, but all Americans who understand that the black church, like the black family, is an institution and inspiration that all of us should support, for on its health depends so much of this country's. Jeremiah Wright has defamed his church, not glorified it by identifying his hateful views with his church's invaluable and eternal teachings.

In short, when Dr. Johnson famously noted that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, he may have overlooked the rich possibilities of the church.

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In Context
Like most everyone that follows politics, I heard the inflammatory sound bites of Rev. Wright and in particular the one how he says "no, no, no, God Damn America!" We then heard the apologists say this was unfair and that we needed to hear the entire sermon in order to understand the context of these statements.

Friday I was caught in congested traffic while listening to the Glenn Beck show. During the hour I was in the car, Glenn played the entire Rev. Wright sermon referenced above. I heard the entire sermon and I will agree that it needs to be heard this way to be fully understood. The bottom line: The sermon is even worse than the soundbites. This man hates American and conservatives with more passion than is imagineable.

How this church retains tax exempt status is beyond me. This was the most hate-filled, anti-american speech I have ever heard. The most egregious of his comments were that our soliders are the equivalent of those of Al-Qaida.

Actually, I do know how this church retains tax exempt status. It is because Rev. Wright is black. In one of the great ironies of our times, Rev. Wright claims to live in such a racist society, yet no one would dare go after him out of fear of being called a racist.


So much has been said about
Wright's appearance at the NPR and his talk with Moyers on PBS that little attention has been given to the Sunday Night address to the Detroit Chapter of the NAACP, self described as the "biggest and baddest".

The serious person must see this introduction of the Lion of Judah, the very reincarnation of Jesus......according to the introduction by Reverend Anthony.

It is long, full of bluster, intriguing and frightening, something that every TH'er should see if you really have any further doubts about Barack Obama's mentor.

Start with the introduction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTFMl2vlow

If you wish to skip forward to Jeremiah waxing eloquent, showing his true beliefs, then go to Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXibQ5Fm8vo&feature=related

But if you have the time & interest, watch the entire presentation, you won't be sorry.

Obama
I think this whole mess says more about the American people - many of us anyway - than Obama or Wright. Here's a guy who we've learned over the past few months is friendly with William Ayers, a terrorist with blood on his hands; refuses to wear the American flag pin on his lapel (and makes a point of telling us why); whose wife is ashamed of America and thinks we are a "mean" country; whom Hamas wants to win the presidency; whose pastor laudes the likes of Louis Farrakan and Moe Qadaffi and has an obviously intense hatred for "White America" and America's history, and there's more we'll hear about as time goes on; who says he cannot disown Wright, yet a week later does exactly that because of politics (certainly NOT because their beliefs and values clash), and yet there's still a good portion of Americans who are in this guy's corner and want him to be our president. That is absolutely frightening to me. What has happened to us? Can you imagine America's "Greatest Generation" wanting a man like this to lead them?

Wright gets away with this
because of white guilt and political correctness.
If a white guy said what he says, the race would be over for the candidate and we all know it.

I'm loving this, clinton is rebounding yet cannot beat obama's numbers because of their own arcane system, the dem bigshots don't dare to give it to her knowing full well McCain will beat him like a drum in Nov, because to do so is to risk getting a few cities burned and looted by their base voters whose votes they've bought for decades with our money.

I'll bet the folks in Denver are having buyers remorse about now about the convention.



my 3 cents
Don - Good post. Well said.

Let me add this - according to the Chicago Tribune online a certain HUGELY successful black entertainer/entrepreneur of the female persuasion who operates a daily TV show out of Chicago and has a magazine with her picture on it EVERY issue was at one time a member of the same congregation but she left because she realized that Jeremiah's rantings and ravings were a bit much and would offend her fans.

Right now bo reminds me of a tar-baby - he is stuck with wright and the democrats are stuck with him.

This is gonna get even uglier in democrat land

p.s.
Forget the polls - I think that this fight between bo and hillary is gonna go on and on until who-knows-when, and increasing numbers of middle of the road voters - the ones who hold the key to the vote - will be going to the polls on November 4, holding their noses, and voting republican.

I have no problem with a black man as president. I DO have a problem with THAT

whoops
black man as president.

I have no problem with a woman as president. I DO have a problem with THAT woman as president.

Does the name "Condeleeza Rice" ring a bell?

We DO need a democratic party with some grown-ups.

Paul, This is getting old and tired.
Please bring some inspiring material to our American conversation.

We rely on writers to write good material.

So that we may read it and be inspired to contribute to our American Culture from it.

Enough already, about wright. Write.

Don, althougth, I don't necessarily
agree with your sentiment, I am thankful for your writing your beliefs in a respectful style.

This can be generated for the American debates to come...for America's good.

Thank you!

I do not care about Rev. Wright , I care
that Senator Barack Obama listened to the Pastor for 20 years and did nothing to try to bring his pastor and the congregation to a different viewpoint. That is what a leader would do, if he beleived that white America was not bad.

He also listened to his white grandmother express her fears of the black people, over more than 20 years and again, did nothing.

Senator Obama, to me, seems like an opportunist just sitting there and getting in good with both sides.
And by the way, if he expects to negotiate with the leaders of North Korea and Iran and Syria why is he not now negotiating with his pastor?

No Nellie....
Mr. Greenberg needs to keep reminding America about Wright. Mr. Wright is an insult to every man, woman, and child in our great country.

To speak about wrongs that need to be corrected; this is a good thing. To preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ; this is a great thing.

But Wright does non of this. He preaches hate.

He and O'Vomit need to be called on it. Wright for preaching it and O'Vomit for not speaking against out it for 20 years.

Mr. Greenberg,
Have you ever read Town Haller's views and how they defame our American people???

On this topic, I suggest you direct some critiquing in their direction, for a change.

They do damage, daily.


Anyone else notice
how many of Obama's friends and relatives hate America? Makes me wonder what Obama's true feelings are. Birds of a feather, and all that.

Oh Nellie, Quit Tattling - 8:27 post

All you TH posters out there had better start agreeing with Nellie, or Mr. Greenberg might have to write a critical article about you.

COLLEGE VOTE
WHAT IS REALLY SAD IN THIS COUNTRY IS OUR MAJOR COLLEGES! FOR YEARS THEY HAVE HIRED PROFFESORS THAT SPILL THE SAME KIND OF HATE AMERICA FIRST AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES. JUST TAKE AYERS FOR EXAMPLE- AND THAT LIAR-WHO SAID HE WAS AN AMERICAN INDIAN FROM COLORADO. WHAT GREAT MENTORS FOR OUR UPCOMING GENERATION.NO WONDER THEY ARE ALL FOR OBAMA- THEY HAVE BEEN GROOMED- JUST LIKE WRIGHT GROOMED OBAMA.

The myspace generation
The myspacers are blind to the real world and look at Obama for his hip-hop rap entertainment. Probably 80% of Obama's supporters have myspace accounts and post pictures of themselves in compromising poses.

Something to consider
Martin Marty has known Rev Wright for more than forty years. So it's fair to say that he knows him far better than any of you do, including Mr. Greenberg.

Martin Marty has recently written that he denounces Rev Wright's infamous comments, but he also knows that Dr. Wright brings a lot of positives to the table too. And in weighing all of the good and all of the bad, he still considers the man a friend, and an excellent preacher of the Gospel.

So to all of you who, with blood dripping from your fangs, want to crucify Rev Wright, I have a question: Is it possible that your extremely limited experience with Dr. Wright is at odds with the reality of who the man is?

Is it possible that Rev Wright isn't the horrific monster you imagine him to be?

Is it possible that Martin Marty and Barack Obama have made the correct assessment of the man: Yeah, he's a bit theatrical and bombastic on occasion, and he has some anger issues, but he also brings a lot of positives to the table, and it would be foolish to throw the baby out with the bath water? Is that possible?

Just asking.

Phylo out.

Phylo - of course you're right.

But this isn't about Rev. Wright. It's about Obama.

The man is a cipher, and can offer very little by way of substance to get a sense of what kind of commander in chief might turn out to be.

If all we have to chew on is his associations with some very curious (to say the least) associates, then so be it.

Obamabluffism
Obama's mad at Wright now - not because of the absolute ignorance of Wright, but because Wright has now messed with Obama's cardboard image: politicans say what voters want to hear: THAT's OBAMA, Mr. Self-serving. BHO's just a lousy naive politician doing what politicians do - THAT is what has Obama's underpants twisted. Wright was kind of thrown under the bus (Obama's such a wuss) BECAUSE "that's a show of disrespect to me." NOT THE USA, but Obama - it's all about Obama, NOT America, NOT her people, NOT the USA, but homely,pathetic,Wright-kicked-sand-in-his-face, whiny Obama!
Obama's going to take his saute pan and go home if Wright won't play according to Obama cook book.
Obama is an adolescent, overindulged, specious tot, throwing a tantrum.
Obama is pathetic.

Politically, not morally wright.
Actually I disagree that obama has finally come to realize true right from wrong. Rather, he has learned what is POLITICALLY right (ie. what is better for his campaign, now). As the consummate politician, joining the church in the first place 20 years ago (and not leaving, probably because the support of that community outweighed any disgust obama may have had with wright's anti-American and racist rantings) is exactly7 like his dumping wright now. When he thought sticking to his guns and backing wright may have shown loyalty and strength, he now sees him as a liability and decides to cut his losses. Imagine this clown on the world stage with REAL issues. Weak as hell! Well, I guess all this talk of bringing a new style to Washington apparently is like Yugoslavia stating in the '90's that they developed a new style of car: the Yugo.

Boutte
Boutte-hole: no one pays attention to cbs anymore. They have thier tongue stuck so far up barack's Boutte they can't see the truth of the situation because of all the poop in their eyes. Now if you want to see some enlightening material (but not in the hysterical style of the moveon.org and the daily kook berating their own candidates for appearing on FoxNews), check out the following video re: the connections between black lib theology and the way barack acts and talks. Wasn't present in church that day, eh?

http://eyeblast.tv/public/searchresults.aspx?Keyword=Lorne% 20Baxter&Arr=0&type=8

Copy and paste into address bar, if you dare liberals!

Who is pandering to whom?
I love watching the sport that is the race for the democrat party nomination. Each candidate is tripping over all the PC landmines that the party has put in place. Vote for Obama and your sexist, vote for Hillary and your racist.

Obama criticizes Hillary for her gas tax holiday, stating it is just empty rhetoric and pandering for votes and his declaration of same is literally and figuratively the pot calling the kettle black.

Then, Obama comes out and says he actually was for Revend Wright before he was against him. That has a vaguely familiar ring to it doesn't it?

Erratum:
Please search and replace the word "your" with the contraction "you're" in my previous post (damn voice recognition software".

OK Don
Can anyone imagine BO as a candidate for president in the 50's, not because of the color of his skin but because of the hate America first of some many of his closest associates. Just to name a few Rev Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Michelle and Rev Moss.

Moss is the "new preacher" at Trinity UCC where BO continues as a member. Moss's first sermon as the new pastor was about the "high tech lynching" of Wright. There has been no change is the Black Lib Theology at Trinity they are just trying to hide it better by taking DVDs of Wrights sermons off their website and removing mention THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM which has been a pillar of their faith for over 25 years. Hypocrites!!!!!!!

Either Rev Wright is wrong or he is the victim of a high tech lynching. Trinity and its continuing member BO are trying to have it both ways. Rev Wright might actually be right for once when he says BO says what politicans have to say!

Now
hussein is "outraged" at the hatespew from the racist he calls his mentor and spiritual advisor for the last 20 years?

Appalled at the level of pure hatred this "dear friend" displays, yet asked him to marry him and baptize his kids?

Shocked at the seething venom of the hatemonger that he actively sought out and chose PRECISELY for his hatred of America and the white devils?

Sure you are, hussein.

Don @ 06:17 wrote about oblahma
"...whom Hamas wants to win the presidency..."

Eh, enough said to prove oblahma should be avoided even with barge-pole--that a group with an extreme hatred of America wishes his victory!

Good or not
Phylo Se Fiser:

Perhaps, I just think he isn't very snae.

A few points. He claims that governments lie--true, but then goes on to claim that the US knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor--nope, they had intelligence that war with Japan was imminent-after the 14th part of the message was decoded, FDR said to his adviser Harry Hopkins--this means war. But the US had no idea where war would begin. The US didn't create the AIDS virus, there is no evidence it allowed drugs to be imported to the US, and on and on.

He is one of these far out conspiracy nut loons--you have them on both right and left, he just happens to be on the left, but do you think you want a president that has as his spirtual mentor someone who is insane? Says lots about judgement, no? And presidents have to at times be brutal...he would have done himself more favors if he had brutally cut himself off from Wright once the story broke, perhaps Obama is too weak to be president.

Way to go Obama, the uniter?
Obama has presented himself since his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech as a leader who can unite America across the political and racial divides. Obama's long association with minister Wright contradicts this assertion.

While invoking God and Black Theology in the pulpit, Wright says the federal government manufactured the AIDS virus to kill black people, celebrates Louis Farrakhan as a great man, and likens American soldiers to terrorists. While Obama has admonished Wright for these comments he definitely tolerated them for a long time. This suggests if not proves Obama is a divider and not a uniter. Obama's association with Wright has unintentionally but effectively employed the "race card".

Ninety eight percent (98%) of blacks in Pennsylvania voted for Obama, a statistic that is believed to be repeated nation-wide! This is an exemplification of racial politics that along with Black Theology is expressively anti-white! Does Obama admonish blacks to be objective in their voting? Has he specifically admonished Wright for his politically motivated anti-white diatribes.? Absolutely not. Obama relishes the dedicated black vote.

Are Democrats serious that this man should be their nominee for president? Obama has probably ruined Hillary's once certain election to be the next Democratic president. Way to go, Obama!

The Wright Stuff
Check out BOs new pastor at yesterday's WorldNetDaily. I don't see any change ...
Is it just me?
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=6337 7

We all know why BHO sat in that pew
For twenty years BHO sat in that church to try and become accepted by the black community as being black. For a hafrican, he had to establish his bona fides with them. Yet, to anyone who listens to BHO speak, he sounds very white, very articulate, speaks Harvard english not ebonics. He is more Clarence Thomas, Conde Rice, Colin Powell, than Rev. Wright-like. If he were a conservative the Democrat party would label him an Uncle Tom sellout to whitey America.

Apparently, it was his half-white genetics that allowed him to go to Harvard, since Rev. Wright claims blacks cannot learn that way.

So WHO is BHO? He cannot lay claim to the victimhood of ancestors who were slaves, yet he conveniently avoids that fact in front of black audiences, and touts his Harvard achievements when talking to white audiences. He is more chameleon than politician, and is just another empty suit looking for the sympathy vote.

You have to be
very naive or a bigotted a@@ to even remotely believe that Socialist - Obama does not hate America and white people.

Hussein Muhammed Obama & the "REV." Wright have been together 20yrs, so it is hard to tell which one taught the other to hate & g@d damn America.

They are two peas in the same pod.

Wright
I suggest to you all that Wright is not a racist. Why should he be when he is bi-racial, raised in a mixed neighborhood and attended a 90% exclusive, white school where he excelled. Now he has chosen to live in an exclusive, all white neighborhood. Why? Because of his background, that is where he is comfortable, not in a mixed neighborhood or not in the neighborhood of one of his congregation. He used the church, probably mostly disenfranchised, to advance his personal agendas and to gain national attention and wealth. He and Obama have common backgrounds - I don't think Obama is racist either, but like Wright, is an opportunist. Wright used the church, Obama used Wright to build a political base which the pundits thought belonged to Hillary.
The real loses in this case are the members of Trinity Church.

Obama is not hearing anything that Wright didn't say 20 years ago, could he just now be finding it offensive because it has put his political career in jeprody?

If Obama needed a mentor, why not someone like T.D. Jakes, Bishop Eddie Long or others? They strive for reconciliation not alienation. I would say that he has not exercised good judgement in this area.

Why
Just curious, why do people over and over again link Powell in the same list as black conservatives like Thomas? You know there are black liberals that can speak English well too, why not add them to the list if you are going to have Powell? He is pro-choice, pro affirmative action, supports gun control and supported Clinton's don't ask, don't tell policy on gays in the military. He has not ever rejected the idea of running on a Democratic ticket or serving in a Democratic administration.

Please don't dishonor real black conservatives by implying he is one.


Anyone...
Who says the US created the AIDS virus so they could engage in black genocide is INSANE.

Oh and Hitler was a brilliant speaker too and he too was INSANE.


for Phylo
Phylo writes: "So to all of you who, with blood dripping from your fangs, want to crucify Rev Wright, I have a question: Is it possible that your extremely limited experience with Dr. Wright is at odds with the reality of who the man is?"

You Obama supporters are having real trouble staying on message.

Obama already dumped Wright and said he was "outraged" by Wright's comments.

You, on the other hand, haven't expressed any such "outrage"; and are in fact trying to salvage Wright's reputation.

By doing that, you are giving the distinct impression that Wright was right when he said that the only reason Obama distanced himself from him was political gain, not philosophical disagreement.

Your credibility on this issue is shot. My suggestion is to just drop it.

Rev. Wright
The "Rev." made me think about joining the 'victums of racism' club. As a Native American, I wasn't taken from my 'Motherland' it was taken from me. I know prejudice and having family members lynched because of it. Maybe if there is ever a Native American candidate running for president, old wounds will be acknowledged of how my people were treated. Either way, God has blessed America. We have a future to shape.

Bottom Line for repubs/cons
I you dont like barack obama, should he win the democratic prez nomination dont vote for him in th general election, which you were not going to do i the first place. its as simple as that.

the problem for repubs/cons being that they now have to convince dems/libs and independents to not vote for him...good luck with that one.


Otis & Akaqi
Otis,
You said: Ninety eight percent (98%) of blacks in Pennsylvania voted for Obama, a statistic that is believed to be repeated nation-wide! This is an exemplification of racial politics that along with Black Theology is expressively anti-white!

Black Theology had nothing to do with it. If Sowell, Elder or one of your other black cons run for president, see how many black votes they will get. Guarantee you it won't be 98% or even close. Colin Powell, oh yeah, he would get plenty of black votes but you guys don't like him because he is for truth and will not carry the rhetorical banner of the right while losing everything decent he believes in.

impeachbush
Hear that sound? That faint whisper? That is the sound of the rotors on the black helicopters hovering over your house at night, because that makes as much sense.

Oh want to know the first case of HIV has been identified from...the 1950s.

As for your story about the microbiologists, well they all died decades after HIV appeared, so I am unsure what this has to do with Wright's comments.

Akaqi
Neither of us know where the AIDS virus originated from for sure. One theory holds that Africans contracted the disease from eating monkey meat but they have been eating monkey meat for generations. Another theory holds that humans had sex with monkeys and the virus was passed. Leonard Horowitz states that the government was experimenting with creating vaccines using blood from primates and accidentally created HIV.

Without definite proof, we cannot say that either of these theories are right or wrong. Wright's allegations regarding the government and AIDS can be considered off base because of making his accusations without the benefit of substantial proof. He should have maintained that in his opinion, the government could have possibly been responsible for such atrocities based on the Tuskegee experiment. Remember, these alleged experiments were conducted sometime in the late fifties and early sixties. The government at that time was not exactly known for its polictical correctness.In any event, using the pulpit may not have been the best venue to voice such a controversial opinion.

Galatians 3
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

I accept the fact that because of where people live they are likely to attend church meetings with the people who live closest. And I accept the fact that the distribution of the races in America has been affected by racism. However there is no such thing as a black church, or a German church, or any other division conceived by sinners. The Church is the Bride of Christ and will not be divided by humans.

Powell speaks the truth
"We want to see both sides not take unilateral action that would prejudice an eventual outcome, a reunification that all parties are seeking," Powell told CNN International, according to a State Department transcript released in Washington.

Of course that isn't US policy to favor any outcome one way or the other in regards to Taiwan. And at the time Powell said this, it was of course not the policy of the Chen Administration to seek "reunification" (nor even the Ma administration).



"Taiwan is not independent. It does not enjoy sovereignty as a nation, and that remains our policy, our firm policy," Powell told Phoenix TV.

Really I guess those green passports with the words Taiwan on them must be a figment of my imagination then...

Oh why don't your read this interview he gave to that little maggot Anthony Yuen.

http://www.fapa.org/referendum/POWELL-PHEONIX-011604.htm

He can believe in anything he wants, I wish he'd just be honest and go where black liberals belong...the Democratic Party. He is no more a Republican than I am a member of the National People's Congress.

HIV
Well, we know there is a body of a person who died in 1959 who was infected with HIV. If the US was going after genocide using HIV, pretty ineffective way to go about it.

Like me to cover some of his other insane comments? Oh and the science on HIVs origins is actually quite well documented as is how it got into the US.




Akaqi
There may be documentation for how the virus got into the US but concrete information on where the virus came from is still a mystery.

The Tuskegee veneral experiments
started in the 30s when antibiotics didn't exist and siphylis was virtually incurable except through an arduous arsenic *cure* that could be very damaging and fatal all in itself.

But Rev. Wright was not really exposed to such gov't idiocy. He grew up in integrated, surbuban Germantown outside Phila. in the 50s and 60s where liberals involved in civil rights and the freedom rides abounded. I went to college there in the 60s.

HIV is carried by Central African chimpanzees, altho' they do not deveope AIDS. How the contagion leaped to humnas isn't known, but all of our *flus* have from from birds (avian flu) and pigs (swine flu) where they may or may not have been dangerous to the host but proved debilitating to humans. The first influenza of 1918 started somewhere in KA in the US and was taken by soldiers to the front in WW I France. In the end, it's estimated the virus killed more people than the war.


more
My father said he remembered that his school was closed and everyone wore garlic around their necks, good for warding off vampires but I don't know how good at preventing contagion. Maybe the garlic kept people from getting too close and spreading the virus through contact and fluids.

Wright may have his reasons and in the US, he has free speech protection, but that doesn't mean that he HAS to say what he does. Were he in Magube's Zimbabwe (former Rhodesia) or South Africa during apartheid or the Congo, which has been in civil war since the 1960s, he would find his ideas were likely not welcome or publishable.

Sometimes, those who are so hateful of the US but freely use its freedoms that are virtually unknown in vast stretches $of the earth seem just a bit narcisstic.

There were 3.64 blacks in the US when Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation. Hundreds of millions more filled the Spanish Empire in Carbbean, Central, and South Am. and around the world. When Am. won the Spn-Am. war in 1898, we freed those remaining slaves.


even more
Europe took up slavery when Portuguese and Spanish explorers were looking for a route around Af. and located the W. African Gold Coast. Africans had been capturing and selling their brothers there for many 100s of years. On the E. Coast of Af., the Arab Moslems captured and sold blacks. As horrendous as this was in its time, it was eventually white European Christians who became the abolitionists and campaigned for the end of 1) the international trade and then 2) localized slavery.
Slavery is still thriving in Africa and parts of Asia today, but the media can't ever work itself up to publicize the degradation (I think) because the trade is conducted by Africans against Africans (esp. Moslems against Christians--Darfur) and Arabs against Africans and throughout China.

Maybe Rev. Wright does castigate Africans for their slavery activities or their genocides or their chronic tribal warfare but he seems particularly focused on Am., which though not perfect, is the best place for any minority to succeed in the world.

Why are people packing themselves into boxcars, daring the criminality of crossing our borders, journeying for days in sealed cabins to cross oceans to get to the US? Because, regardless of racism, sexism, et. al., Am. is the best place in the world to live and succeed.

An Indian student of mine just returned from a family wedding in Madras and reports that even with education and money, the caste system is still so strong, it is almost impossible to break out of. Here, where his family is now, no one hears of caste or station and what you make is what you earn.

Barack and his pals are all patriots...
Just look at Bill Ayers prove it with an improvised patriotic dance: http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/bill-ayers-step ping-on-us-flag-in-2001.html

Actually no
"information on where the virus came from is still a mystery..."

Actually where HIV came from and that it is of natural origin is also well documented.

Any other Wright myths you'd like to explore?

Slavery
Actually ended in Cuba in 1886, it ended in Brazil in 1888--the last country in the Western Hemisphere to end it.


Akaqi & Renny
Akaqi,
I assume that you are saying that there is substantial docmentaton (not theories) acknowledging that the HIV virus did indeed cross over from primates to humans that is accepted by the scientific world. If so, please share your resource for this info with me. So far, I've found only theories on how this occurance happened.

Renny,
Your criticism of Wright may have missed its mark. Your opinion is that Wright's tirades occurred because he hated America. Actually, Wright's personal feelings toward America are probably the exact opposite of what you think they are.

Have you ever been on a job where you disliked the way policies were enforced, where you noticed favortism toward certain employees, and where the morale was low for some emmloyees due to these issues? The pay may have been fairly good and otherwise it was one of the better places to work so you liked working there but employees felt that still improvements could be made to increase morale, which in turn would also improve prouctivity. If so, this is an example of how Wright feels about America.

I am a child of the sixties growing up during the era of riots, gestapo police tactics, a south dominated by the KKK, and a government trying to find itself regarding race relations. During this period, I heard my share of American hate talk and hate against white Americans. That is why blacks (particularly boomers)do not view Wright's comments as hatred for America or for whites. We know firsthand what such talk really is. Now if you want to state that Wright is a little over the edge, eccentric, bombastic, etc., you might have something there.

Obama wasn't worried about the church...
...when he struck back at Wright. He didn't like the "disrespect" Wright showed toward *him*.

It's all about Obama. Indeed, to me the comment that really upset Obama was about him being "a politician...saying what he has to say", not about aids and the other stuff (which Wright had said many times before).

wolfie
i suspect that in the oblahma world, just as with the clintons, anyone and everyone is easily sacrificed to advance the ambitions of ruthless politicians'

But the oblahma thought he had a compliant msm that would continue to give him cover. The dims and the left still can't understyand there are other ways to get news and comments. The oblahma believing he had the media in his pocket couldn't imagine anyone would dare question his honesty.

But it seems that the crazy uncle was the one with the credibility over this issue. I guess when the oblahma was seeking his black identity he didn;t understand that politics require a certain amount of street smarts and the ability to roll in the mud with your opponents

Wrong approach to Wright
Town Hall 050508
It is blatantly obvious that Jeremiah Wright is a bigoted anti-American. But that message is more of a Red Herring than not. Oh sure, there is truth to it. But it is not the most important issue. The most important issue is his Marxist Liberation Theology and his political aspirations for Marxist influence in American politics; and how Barak Obama relates to that. Jeremiah Wright is not running for president, Barak Obama is, and we need to ask Obama if he is also willing to tell us truthfully what his position is on Black Liberation Theology. In fact, we need to hear from Obama about exactly what he believes in real terms. Everybody likes hope. When I was a kid someone told me to hope in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up first. Hope has its place but we cannot run a government on hope. Change is not good just because it's change. We don't need to change from the frying pan into the fire. Just what is this new political order that Obama wants to create in America? Just how does he intend to create jobs? And if Obama is so interested in the American worker, then why has he sponsored a program to saddle the American worker with a hefty United Nations Tax. Does the American worker need another tax coming out of his paycheck? Someone needs to hold Obama accountable and the media is not up to the job. Obama is trying to "pull the wool over our eyes" and the media is culpable.

A few comments
1. Wright does not hate America. He hates white America. This is obvious.

2. What did Wright say differently in his recent interviews/speeches that he had not said before that caused Obama to now disown him? Does this mean he can now disown his white grandmother?

3. How is it possible that Mrs. Obama, with her life of privalage, is just now, "for the first time in my adult life", proud of America?

4. Why does anyone care about this subject? Presidential elections have become a grand illusion. The three "favorites" are totally interchangable. All three are supporters of the CFR and support that organization's globalist agenda.

King Liberal
"This is why the GOP is bleeding minority voters-they have no sense of the history of minorities in this country."

I think you need to go back and read your history. The main proponents of segregation were Democrats, not Republicans. Lyndon Johnson himself acknowledged that he could never have passed the Civil Rights Act without the support of Republicans.

Please don't give me the usual drivel about how southern Democrats supported Nixon in 1968. Most segregationists supported George Wallace, not Nixon.
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