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Friday, March 07, 2008
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Nominate in Haste, Repent at Leisure
by Paul Greenberg
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This front-loaded presidential election year is spinning past at dizzying speed. It's all happening much too fast to think. Which isn't good for the voters, the country, or the candidates, who no longer get to wage a long, drawn-out national campaign for their party's nomination. To run a presidential marathon requires endurance, thought, organization and grace under pressure. Maybe even high principle. Or at least low cunning. Reduce the race to a sprint and you get, well, what the country's got in 2008 - too many elections too soon. Result: The chances increase of electing a chief executive unprepared for the job - and Lord knows the country has had enough of those.

Some of us can remember those long-ago times, like four years ago, when a proper pace was maintained in these presidential sweepstakes. The campaign would essentially start off, as long custom dictated, in New Hampshire in February, proceed in measured steps to big states like New York in the late spring, and then conclude with the biggest prize of all, California, at the beginning of summer. This long, stately procession of primaries set the stage for the big show, the nominating conventions, at the end of the whole, and possibly even deliberative, process.

Well, deliberation ain't got a chance in 2008. Not in all this swirl. Those of us who are supposed to comment on these hasty proceedings barely have time to scrawl a few notes, let alone go beyond the horse race to discuss the great issues at stake, if any.

There's just barely time to count the votes in one primary before the country must move on to the next crucial/decisive/must-win primary or primaries. Super Tuesday is followed by Super Tuesday II, which will be followed by what? A sudden-death playoff tonight? A slow swan song over half a year? A helluva trainwreck at this year's Democratic national convention that'll derail the surviving candidate in the fall?

Through the grace of history or maybe just happenstance, the United States of America had developed just about the best of tests for a prospective president: the long, well-paced campaign. Now we're busy junking it.

The only sure thing about this year's presidential election is that it's going too fast. The effect is like running an old movie at twice the intended speed, or a 33 rpm record at 78. Everything is reduced to a high-pitched whine, a montage of jerky movements. Think? Americans are too busy voting - early and often.

In such an atmosphere, the press is as subject as the voters to mindless enthusiasms, maybe more so, for we've got deadlines to meet, copy to file, air time to fill, judgments to rush to. Consider the whole phenomenon known as Obamamania. This kind of political intoxication deserves a chapter in the sequel to "Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" that I'd long intended to write if only I hadn't been swamped by the sheer overabundance of raw material.

Oh, the swooning of the crowds, the adulation of the political junkies! The whole thing has been sweeping over the country like a great national revival, or maybe just the flu. Whatever it is, it's contagious. The media-ocracy, formerly known as the press, seems unable to control its attraction for this bright new star flashing across the political heavens. To cite a few symptoms of the effect St. Barack Chrysostom has had on some of us taking notes out in the pews:

Chris Matthews, who once prided himself on playing hardball, went all weak in the knees, literally, after one of the Sen. Obama's many victory speeches, saying he felt "this thrill going up my leg." Contrary to Mr. Dooley's oft-cited dictum, politics is beanbag once Barack Obama casts his spell over formerly hardened observers of the game.

Tough, probing questions are transformed into sweet nothings as Sen. Obama enchants the smitten fourth estate. Bob Schieffer of CBS, who's been around so long you'd think he'd be resistant to puppy love by now, confessed that he got all choked up just watching the pro-Obama video "Yes We Can."

Grown men have been known to tear up at the sight of Mister Cool wooing the masses, making comparisons to JFK, William Jennings Bryan and the Beatles at the drop of a notebook. Somebody really ought to tell these fans in the guise of commentators to curb their enthusiasm before they say still more embarrassing things. Is this a presidential election or the Second Coming?

Hey, what a country. There's a war on, the economy is having a case of the vapors, uncertainties abound at home and abroad, and the two surviving candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination have been busy exchanging sound bites. Has anyone heard a great idea out of either of them?

Instead we get only alternating team yells: Change! Experience! Is this a race for president of the United States or a high school popularity contest? It may all be riveting for us political junkies, but it's scarcely serious.

The two contenders, having forgotten that they once praised free trade, now try to outdo each other at bashing NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement - at least in Ohio, where it makes a handy scapegoat. (In Texas, where NAFTA's been a great success, they tend to grow silent on the subject.)

When the subject is the all-important one of war and peace, notably in Iraq, each tries to outdo the other in defeatism - as if The Surge hadn't started to turn things around. It's as if neither has read a paper for the last six months.

Meanwhile, the GOP is preparing to crown its presidential nominee - if only that good ol' boy from Arkansas would get out of the way. Republicans must be watching the proceedings in the other party with a mix of amusement and dread. For the longest time they'd been preparing to campaign against an op researcher's dream in Hillary Rodham Clinton. It was going to be like running against Lady Macbeth. The low campaign Mrs. Clinton et vir have conducted against this bright young comer only added to her voluminous dossier, which just waited to be reviewed at length by her opposition in the fall.

But the prospect of going through all those old scandals - again - was deadening, which may explain why voters flocked to a newcomer on the national scene whose scandals would at least be new. And now the GOP may have to run not just against a candidate but a political phenomenon. No wonder so many Republicans find themselves pulling for a Clinton for the first time in their lives. Which is one more delicious irony in a campaign full of them. For connoisseurs of irony, this has been a veritable banquet. But it's been conducted at breakneck speed. The guests barely have time to study the menu before it's whisked away. And the choices to be made are much too important to be rushed.

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Well, Mr. Greenberg...
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...you've got to shove something as rank and rotten as John McCain up the nation's collective cloaca as quickly and ruthlessly as possible.










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"McCain is at his most unintentionally revealing when writing about his Republican predecessor in the Senate, Barry Goldwater. 'I really don’t think he liked me much,' he wrote in *Worth the Fighting For*. 'I don’t know why that was. He was usually cordial, just never as affectionate as I would have liked.'

"That it never occurred to McCain why a libertarian Westerner might keep a 'national greatness' conservative and D.C.-bred carpetbagger at arm’s length is both touching and deeply worrisome. Does he not understand that there are at least some people in American life who take liberty as seriously as McCain takes his notions of national duty? Judging by a comment he made recently on the Don Imus radio show, the answer seems to be no. Defending campaign finance reform, McCain said, 'I would rather have a clean government than one…where "First Amendment rights" are being respected....'"

-- Matt Welch

Greenberg is Great
Earlier tonight I was talking about the samething as Mr. Greenberg wrote about, how our electoral process, with these early primaries, is giving us terrible candidates.
Campaign finance reform has been a bust. Barack has so much money that he might be able to buy this election no matter what is written about him. Let the democrats have it. The country will just go down the tube even faster than it already is. Good, I'll be taken care of in my old age. I can now stop saving my money like a damn fool, and let the government take care of me. I can't wait...all you suckers.

Observation
Any success of The Surge does not change the fact that we are spending something like ten billion dollars per month to play out this scenario, money that is desperately needed here at home. And the four thousand dead military will not come back to life no matter how well The Surge works. This war WAS an unnecessary disaster, and the majority of Americans think so. Do you really expect candidates of the party opposing the GOP to praise Bush's war?

In any case, The Surge can only be judged after it's ended because it's like holding the crocodile's mouth shut: what happens when you let go?

Nice try Greenberg
It's true many Conservatives would like Hillary to win the nomination, because they feel McCain would have a better chance of winning the Presidency. To say Republicans finds themselves supporting a Clinton for the first time is misleading. Any support of Hillary by the Republicans are only meant for the sole purpose of McCain. What your talking about is what Hillary's team came up with. You only put it in different words. It's called buyers remorse. Hillary's wins are suppose to be the results of the Democrat voters seeing the mistakes they made in supporting Obama, and with Hillary's wins, they righted a wrong they made in supporting Obama. You went the long way around, but said the same thing Hillary's team wants the voters to think about Obama. They bought into what Obama had to sell, but now want a refund. Hillary is that refund.


The topic was?
Once again the topic of our disfunctional primary systemhas been lost on the back-biter crowd.
Solutions should be the answer instead of carping at the various factions.
The idea of 5 national primaries a month apart where 20% of the delegates are awarded in each would both spread out the voting and give all of the states the same slates of candidates.

Never have
i seen something as sad.

On one side, there is McCain who can't decide whether he is a liberal(not socialist liberal) or a conservative(American Patriot).

And on the other side, a muslim who has no knowledge of how government works and could, possibly, even be working with our enemies.
And then, there is hillary. Her criminal past is well known.

In the middle, are people like LILLY, who are not qualified to vote.

THIS may be America's exit from the land of the free & the home of the brave.

Its Depressing!
John McCain is looking tired, and the real campaign hasn't even started! In Florida this week he was hassled with minor microphone problems that seemed almost enough to make him call it a day!
Obama is an inspired speaker, but he’s also an empty suit! I don’t think allegations about his being Muslim hold water, but in the end it doesn’t matter, he’s not qualified.
And what can we say that’s good about Hillary! Does anyone trust her to do anything that’s not strictly in her own interest? As I recall at the end of the last Clinton administration we barely kept them from stealing the furniture from the White House on moving day!

Hill/ McCain/ Obama
All three of these people are results of a most powerful news media.They have sheltered Hill her and her semi-socialist or fascist(take your choice)ideas.She was a student of socialist Saul Alinski for years.She will destroy what is left of life as we know it.Capitalism will ne no more,if she suceeds.-------------------
They have elevated Obama to his lofty position by fawning over him like a rock star (Elvis has NOT left the building). They listened to how he spoke,but not what he said. Or maybe they really LIKE what he says. He is totally a media phenon. Only since he sort of "turned on them,have they ever criticized him at all. His ideas are even worse than hers and that is saying a lot.His mentor wasFrank Marshall Davis.A socialist-------------
Now media gave us McCain,with the aid of Independents,liberals and Democrat voters.We have the media to thank for all threeof these candidates.It will be interesting whose side they take now. It won't be McCain unless his liberal tendencies are to their liking.

3 Candidates
All three talk differently than before they chose to run. Tennyson, in Ulysses, wrote that "I am a part of all that I have met." In some small way if you believe this, then forgetting about the past of McLame. Obama, and Hillary is our future downfall. It means that history will in some form repeat itself. History, for them, is part of their pasts, as it is for all of us -- good and bad. Feel good, not, all are true politicians, paid to say what people want them to say -- then deny when the opportunity requires something different.

We need campaigns of 7 weeks
like Britain.

As soon as Bush was reelected in 2004, the MSM started predicting 2008. CNN was a major culprit.

Too much time, money, newsprint, and electronic media are wasted on US pres. elections.

With primaries structed so Reps. can vote for Dems. and Dems. can vote for Reps., the idea of party members choosing their flag bearer is entirely corrupted. Then the Dems. have devised a nitwit super-delegate game. We'd be just as well off with pol. professionals in backrooms smoking cigars. At least they would know the people discussed and nominated.

The only good outcome this year is the Dems. will chew their party up in fighting for the nom. And McCain isn't the perf. cons. for Reps. but he has never had an earmark,
has never voted for new taxes,
has an 83% ACU rating,
is a genuine war hero, and
will have no problem as commandeer in chief. Neither Dem. is qualified for anything except 19th C. socialism and post-WW I pacifism. Both will bring foreign and domestic insecurity.

In the meantime, let the Dem. games begin.

Renny
The news media will NEVER promote a Republican,especially a conservative one. The ONLY time they loved Sen.McCain was when he was Bush-bashing during the 2000 election. now that he is running on the Republican ticket,they will do ANYTHING to destroy him. Chris Matthews practically worshipped him when he was anti-Bush,but has ignored him since .They will pick their Democrat and be his or her lap dogs as they have been always been.

The current process
to nominate candidates must GO. Early voting, allowing open primaries where republicans, democrats and independents can vote in any party, and winner take all states that give all the delegates to a candidate who doesn't even get a majority of votes, has given us this disaster in the republican party. Without crossover voting by democrats and independents, and winner take all states, McCain would have been an asterisk. We need regional primaries, delegates awarded proportionally, and a much shorter campaign season. Most of all, WE NEED TERM LIMITS! Until "we the people" speak up and make our voices heard on this, we will continue to have nominees like the current 3. Pathetic!

Actually, it's taken too long
None of these candidates are worthy of any National office, how any of them got this far is a reflection of an adulating press, being manipulated by puppet masters from above. Being the first woman or black in this nation's highest office, is merely a sidenote, not a compelling reason. Votes should be based on abilities, not on novelties. The lack of any true vetting is indicative of the demise of one of our most sacred institutions, the free press. We are being sold empty promises, that foretell an ominous undercurrent of sinister agendas. I see the writing on the wall and am prepared to face the worst of things to come.

Lightning Speed?
ITS BEEN GOING ON FOREVER!

Chris Matthews
The man went after Bill when the Monica thing hit. Now he is for Obama. If Hillary gets the nod he will have some very soft balls.

Say goodbye to Mr. Hardball.

Going on too long?
It has been over two years, and the problem is that we have nothing to show for it! The reason is that the DEM/GOP/MSM propaganda machines control the election process. Indeed, it has been rigged to assure the elites power, and that is what this is all about.

Those of us who are tired of the lies, the scams, and the outright theft of our birthright need to wake up. We need to reject the biggest lie of all, re-iterated by Greenburg, that only the elites have the necessary wisdom, knowledge, and experience to govern. This is pure nonsense.

On April 5-6 in Cincinatti, I and at least 25 other independent candidates will hold a convention/debate on the U of C campus. It will be an opportunity for America to see that we have other choices and other opportunities, if only we had the guts to actually do something different. I urg you to visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG and see one place where the choice of common sense prevails over the lies of the elites. You will also find out more information about this Indepedents' Day convention.

Check it out why not? Aren't you fed up yet with always having to vote the lesser of two evils? Our inheritance has been stolen from us, let's do something different this time. Thanks, Joe


RGP
Calling Hussein Obama a muslim is not as big a stretch as one might think.
His brother is an active militant muslim.
Do you think a brother could not have influence on the other?

PLEASE BOOKMARK THIS
This is HILARIOUS ROFLMAO

MYOPINE caught this. (MUST give him credit)

HAL D was reciting his typical bs. After a few minutes Robert would respond to HAL D. This went back and forth awhile WHEN.

HAL D/ROBERT Forgot he was posting as HAL D and signed his post as Robert. HAHAHAHAHAHA

PLEASE for now on whenever that person signs on as HAL D or Robert. Beat them over the head with this link and what pathetic liars they must be.

George Will Article
Thursday, March, 06, 2008 9:24 PM
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2008/03/06/fd rs_young_admirer?page=full&comments=true
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