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Monday, January 07, 2008
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Laugh's On Us
by Paul Greenberg
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"I know of no American who starts from a higher level of aspiration than the journalist. He plans to be both an artist and a moralist - a master of lovely words and merchant of sound ideas. He ends, commonly, as the most depressing jackass of his community - that is, if his career goes on to what is called a success." -H.L. Mencken

There was once a Broadway play - it was really a less than subtle campaign ad for Adlai Stevenson - called "The Best Man." The plot? To sum it up, Our Hero decides to do the right thing and so loses the presidential nomination to an unscrupulous Richard Nixon type. The message? It's better to be able to live with yourself than win a political race. How quaint.

Columnists and editorial writers and other assorted navel-gazing types are always calling for a presidential candidate who'd do the right thing, who'd stay positive, who'd refuse to be dragged down the muddy road by his hot-shot advisers even while an opponent is plastering him with dung. So finally the press gets such a candidate.

And what do we do? We laugh at him.

It happened on the road not to Damascus but to Des Moines. A presidential candidate named Mike Huckabee, a Baptist preacher from Arkansas whom the sophisticates in the trade long ago tagged as some kind of hick, was about to unleash a negative ad against a sleek opponent from the Northeast.

And so the former pudgy governor, and current Next Man from Hope, stepped out in front of a pack of salivating campaign correspondents to describe his pain over the last few weeks. His record, he said, had been distorted. Mitt Romney was behind it. And he planned to hit back.

Ho boy. The papers here in Arkansas that morning were reporting that Mike Huckabee was doing some serious praying in preparation for what he planned to do to his opponent. As if he were seeking divine dispensation for the heckuva hatchet job he was about to do on a fellow Republican. It was like asking for forgiveness in advance. Not very pretty.

But when Mike Huckabee finally took the pulpit - I mean rostrum - dawgone if he didn't say his conscience had just kicked in, and he'd told his surprised staff a few minutes before that, no, he wouldn't go negative even if that's what the conventional wisdom called for. Mike Huckabee announced that he'd just ordered the hard-hitting commercial pulled.

That's when he made his big mistake. Just to prove he really had a negative ad in the can and wasn't trying to pull a fast one, he announced that Š he'd go ahead and show the clip anyway. Right then and there. The press just about laughed him out of the room.

The press types' reaction to the Reverend's announcement was just brutal, merciless, and it seemed to go on forever. The Washington Post had a video of the press conference on its Web site. It was painful to watch. You could tell by Brother Huckabee's fallen face that the guy had been utterly serious. But the laughs kept coming. He looked like he'd just been hit in the face with a cold, wet towel.

No, no. I have this ad, you see? It was negative, but I pulled it. I wanted to show it once in this room - I'm not handing out copies afterward - just to show y'all in the business that, yes, we had this commercial produced. But we've canceled it, see?

When there was a momentary pause in the derision, Mike Huckabee was asked what exactly he thought he was doing. Was he trying to go negative without going negative? Show his ad and get credit for pulling it, too? Sure, it was a mistake to show the press the commercial. Somebody in the Huck's campaign (Ed Rollins, where were you?) should have seen this one coming. But none of them did. So much for high-paid help. Mike Huckabee made a mistake, all right, but it was made out of naivete - not political cunning. (BEGIN OPTIONAL TRIM)If he'd been as sharp as Richard Nixon, he'd have said only that he was pulling the commercial - and then had a staffer leak a copy of it to the media on Deep Background. Instead, he became a figure of fun. (END OPTIONAL TRIM) You know who really looked shameful at that press conference? The press itself, or at least the bunch who cover presidential campaigns, aka the national press or Them Bastards, depending on whether you're in polite society at the moment. Listening to that seemingly endless laughter, one can understand how the press gets a reputation for being a hopelessly cynical bunch. What did Mencken call us? The most depressing jackasses around. He was right. If Frank Capra's Mr. Smith ever went to Washington again, we "ladies and gentlemen of the press" would probably laugh him right back to Des Moines or Peoria or wherever the poor sap came from. (BEGIN OPTIONAL TRIM) I've got a theory about Mike Huckabee's curious course in this whole, strange episode - first his authorizing the attack ad, then his deciding to pull it, and finally his showing it to the press anyway. But do I dare share it? It's not an orthodox, acceptable theory in this oh-so-enlightened age, but here's my take on the Affair of the Cancelled Commercial: Just suppose for a moment that Mike Huckabee's prayer the other Sunday for the strength to cast aside his best instincts and rise above his own standards, or rather fall below them, really had been answered. And the answer was No. As in Thou Shalt Not. And that it just took a while, like 24 hours, for it to dawn on him. (Even the Lord may have trouble being heard in the tumult of a noisy, muddy political campaign, for they say His is a still small voice.) And when the Reverend got the message from On High, he really had no choice but to reveal it in the spirit of his denomination's tradition of public confession, foolish as it might make him look, and embarrassing as open confession is to us more buttoned-down types. Such things are simply not done in the dawning 21st century, not by a supposedly serious presidential candidate, and certainly not in front of the press. The Boys on the Bus who cover presidential campaigns were bound to laugh at such a confession, or look for some self-serving motive to explain it. Naturally, they promptly did both. For their "analysis" of political news begins and ends with the self-serving motives of politicians. Anything beyond that is beyond them. The cynical types who cover presidential campaigns in mod America tend to be Level One types - that is, they never get to that second, intuitive level that surpasses all understanding. Surely we've all had that sensation at one blessed time or another, but we may not care to admit, lest we be thought weird. Such thoughts are not expressed in the highly politicized world that Mike Huckabee has entered, where "God Bless America" is just an ornamental phrase tacked on to the end of presidential speeches or a car bumper - not a desperate plea like one the Psalmist might have uttered (BEGIN ITALICS)in extremis. (END ITALICS) And so Mike Huckabee wound up looking like a fool. But better to be such a fool - God's fool - than to be the most clever, calculating, successfully triangulating, never-at-a-loss-for-words politician in the country. Good for Mike Huckabee. He'll sleep better for it. (END OPTIONAL TRIM) (Paul Greenberg is editorial page editor of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. David Barham, an editorial writer for the Democrat-Gazette contributed to this column.) © 2008 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.

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Good for Mike
Doing the right thing is a good attitude for a president.

Oh come now
Do you really believe Huckabee is such a naif? The man ran a successful gubernatorial campaign, was a state governor, is running for president, yet we are to believe he has no idea how the press works?

I do see one naif, but it isn't Huckabee.

Huckabee is honest and sincere
He did the right thing for the right reasons
anbd the voters of Iowa apreciated him for raising the level of the debate.

As for the laughing hyenas, the press is a bunch of cynical hate filled
scornful, Godless, anti-Christian bigots.

But Mike will prevail in South Carolina and Michigan and get the nomination on Super Tuesday-


another HONEST mistake
paul... here is another HONEST mistake on the HUCKSTER for ya...

1998 Huck is the keynote speaker at the SBC convention in Salt Lake City. He is part and parcel of the Baptists push to bring Mormons into THIER christianity. They pass out ANTI-MORMON literature and give speechs on the supject. (you are also probably aware that Preachers such as Huckabee consider mormons as a cult, and do workshops on the issue)

Knowing this how do you reckon another HONEST mistake by Huck... when he told the reporter "don't know much about mormons, but don't they believe jesus and satan are brothers?"

HMMMMM,,,, Huck does not know much about mormons? HMMMMMMM

Just another HONEST mistake i guess. LOL

Try real hard
What is missing from the neocon movement is "big picture". We all have our checklists of what we want our candidates to be. But what we need is to know why our candidate believes his position. Democrats know why they believe what they believe and they connect to America people.
Half liberal neocons flip flop so much because they lack character.
Maybe Huck didn't go negative because he knows he couldn't. That he would get run over. We don't know.

When I vote for a guy I must know why he believes the way he does. Not sufficient to be anti amnesty but you need to say why you are. Then explain what happens when you do not believe the way you do.
They need win the battle of ideas. We need to explain why corporatism is bad and capitalism is compassionate. And why fascism and liberalism are bad.
My fear is that NeoCons are half liberal and they do not think it is bad so they cant explain themselves.

scooter
Have you ever been a Keynote speeker.
I have and I assure you, you do not know every detail of the event. In a case like the one you described; Huck had no reason to ask about anything.
Literature was passed out at an event that he spoke at, and you want to blame him. You sound like a Ron Paul supporter. Get over it.
You can argue that Christians saying Mormons are not christians is anti Mormon. But that is the weak liberal victim card. You can just as easily argue that Mormons are anti Christian by claiming Mormons are Christian.

Huck's campaign lacks adult leadership..
...that's the real problem. If he can't get people around him who can give him good advice on how things will play out, then how will he get these people as the President?

Naive and inexperienced are the two words that describe Huckabee the best. Both can be overcome if you surround yourself with competent people. Huckabee has not done that and is showing why he can't be the President.

Mitt has been and will continue to be the best man for the job!

Best man?
"Mitt has been and will continue to be the best man for the job!"

Well, except for Fred Thompson.

And Scooter, Seeker is right. Whining that a Christian like Mike Huckabee is calling out wanna-be Christians in a speech is actually the more honest position. Romney, despite the fact that he is my second choice for Pres, still seems to claim that he is a Christian believer, something that is profoundly dishonest.

And may I also mention that I see Mormons all over these discussion threads saying that even Christ was not a Christian (I guess he didn't believe in Himself then?). By that definition Joseph Smith was not a Mormon nor George Washington an American.

Get a grip!
Stupid press jumped up and down to show it

Cost to Huck, zip!

Be prepared to be laughed at
I am what is known as a Prude -- someone who does not like or listen to dirty jokes, smutty conversation or relentless profanity, and who says so in a polite but definite way. It saves me from having to put up with a lot of wearying rubbish, but it gets me laughed at or jeered by those who consider such conversation *modern* or *just the way people talk* and sometimes who have fallen into sloppy habits just because nobody ever said them nay. Going against what the Popular Kids think is The Norm is going to get you laughed at. And Mr. Huckabee, if he survives after Super Tuesday, ought to be prepared to hear a lot more of it.

P.S. Did anyone ever answer the query about Satan and Jesus being brothers? By citing scripture or in the case of the Mormons *scripture*?

my personal perspective
after watching huckabee answer questions about this and his group's rush comments, i think he is just like bill clinton in doublespeak and tap dancing. and just like bill clinton from the first accusation on jennifer flowers that later turned out true, this guy's behavior sets off my b.s. detector big time. (especially the way he claims to be conservative and simply ignores his past actions.)

I don't know...
I've had God speak to me a time or two in that still small voice, and if I heard Him say "No", I would take that to mean "No". My conscience would not permit me to go ahead and show the thing God said should remain hidden.

If God said No, and Mike was really trying to obey God, then Mike would have wanted the offending commercial to stay buried, period. His actions don't wash with a clear conscience.

It all sounds a bit bogus to me.

I
am still laughing,at the huckary of it all.

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The Only Naif I see
The only naif I see in all this is the columnist. Huck's move at this conference involved the deepest type of political strategery in which several problems were dealt with in one stroke. First, Huck played to his evangelical base in at least two ways: 1) By his description about prating over whether or not to run his negative ad, and 2) by allowing himself to be martyred for his "faith" by being torn apart by the media "lions," perfect Christian theatre, a modern-day passion play. Second, the media was completely taken on this one inasmuch as Huck made use of it's cynicism to his own ends, making them his megaphone to broadcast exactly what he wanted. Third, Huck got to bash Romney on the cheap, getting the same bang as Mr. Mass for far less $$. As much as I might not care for Huck, it would be a BIG mistake to underestimate his political savvy.

-Trentamj

lack of evenhandedness is the problem
Everyone bashes the media. And the media should be held up to scrutiny, because it can influence opinion.

I usually find Greenberg to be interesting... and this article is just that...but except for noting how utterly cynical is the media regarding any presumed "crisis of conscience" on the part of Huckabee, just what was the point?

That a presidential candidate can actually exhibit remorse, and pull a negative ad?

I happen to like Huckabee pretty well, but I am still leaning toward McCain, even Ron Paul(anyone but Romney or Giuliani whom I view as heirs to Bush). Huckabee seems like a decent man, and his decision to pull the ad, even if he had media view it on one occasion, may well spring from noble motives.

I know this sounds callous, but we need a cynical media. My only complaint with media is its lack of evenhandedness...one might say its rank hypocrisy.

As an example, it needs to extend that same cynicism and critiquing of Mike Huckabee's motives, to Al Gore's and the environmentalists' ideas and motives concerning global warming.

There are countless examples where the media is loath to go after its "sacred cows".

Now maybe that is my cynicism, but I think it's grounded in reality.

New Political Parody
Huckabee-do-dah! see my blog!

You're joking, right?
There is a candidate who has consistently stuck to principle during this campaign -- given the party exactly the kind of thing they've been asking for -- and has been all but totally ostracized for it. That candidate ain't Huck.

Does anybody seriously believe that Huckabee was showing the -PRESS- his ad because he -didn't- want it seen? Really? The press, for once, got it right in laughing at Huck. They saw through it. That Mr. Greenberg didn't suggests that perhaps it's time he take a vacation. Get some rest. Clear his head.

Huckabee has had his 15 minutes of fame!
Huckabee is not ready for prime time. He isn't presidential material period. He is out of his league. I think he would make a nice man to have over for dinner but he cannot possibly make a good President for heaven's sake. He has to meet with world leaders, if President. Can anyone possibly see him in that role?

Huckabee
He seems sincere. I'm not as impressed with him as some seem to be, but he would have been crucified if he'd not shown the ad. Then he would have been accused of making up the story out of whole cloth.

Or if he had just ignored it altogether, and pulled the ad and not said anything, some numbskull would have leaked it and he would have been pilloried for that.

It is never a Win Win situation in Politics....Especially when you are trying to do the right thing.

showing it
Where was it shown? The only place I know of is on Fox, and they scrounged for a tape because they don't like him. The thing was weird but it's over, he won Iowa.

Huck is a disaster waiting to happen!
I agree with M. Sederoff above. If he wanted to be virtuous, he should have not shown the ad, particularly to the press.

As Romney pointed out, it's like saying, "I'm not going to call you names, but if I were going to do it, these are the names I'd call you."

Huckabee is not presidential material. I would be embarassed to have him be my president, just as I was with Jimmy Carter.

for _Seeker of Truth_
_Seeker of Truth_ writes: "We all have our checklists of what we want our candidates to be. But what we need is to know why our candidate believes his position."

Bingo!
That's EXACTLY right!

You summed it up perfectly.
Can I quote you on that sometime?

Huckabees
campaign is being hurt by his campaign manager Rollins. It does help Huckabees image for this man talking about kicking in Romney's teeth and other tough speech he was over heard indiscreetly talking about in a booth in a restaurant.

There is a sense that Huckabee and McCain are ganging up against Romney and that doesn't help their image either.

Both are angry at Romney's ads, calling them negative because they reveal parts of their records they want kept hidden. For instance, McCain got all huffy because Romney called his plan for immigration amnesty and that is exactly what it was. Just because some stipulations are posed for citizenship it is still amnesty for those who came across the border illegally.

As for Huckabee, he doesn't like his raise in taxes advertised.

The truth hurts.

Press is silly
It was obvious Huck was playing a game. I dont want to air this because its negative and I dont play that game but here it is if you want to see it! A cheap way for it to get plenty of air! Nice move.
But what is a negative ad? If you rightfully point out the differences of positions thats not negative as long as you dont spin the differences as criminal and they are legitimate positions. Now if you broadcast an ad saying your opponent was cohabitating with camels and was taking money from Osama Bin Rotten that would be negative? Only if it was untrue.

Hoof-in-mouth disease
Barack Obama is he black enough ?

Rick Lazio was too confrontational with Hillary Clinton in their Senatorial debate when he approached her podium with a pledge for her to sign on the conduct of the campaign. A man being confrontational with a woman. Poor hillary. Notice how the attack ads on Barack are not working? He is a nice black guy. It didn't work for Rick. It won't work for you...not this time.

Romney is too Mormon. Huck is too Christian. Rudy cheats on his wife. Fred has no fire.

I promise you that if Barak Obama is the Democrat nominee for president and he loses, it will be said that "America is a racist country, that is why he lost".

If there wasn't a controversy the media would have to create one. It sells. Actually I rather enjoy seeing candidates screw up. But what I really want to see is how they handle it after. If you think politics has become a rough game then you have never read the history of the United States. Educate yourself. Read a book.

Tibby


"Some Kind of a Hick"
Yes, Huckabee has been tagged as some kind of a hick because he is some kind of a hick. When he chose a college, since he was a bright kid he could have gotten a scholarship to a recognized school. Instead, he went to a small Christian college in the South. When he got there, he could have declared a substantial major. Instead, he majored in Bible Studies. When he graduated, he could have gone to law school or graduate school. Instead, he went to a southern theology school. When he was enrolled there, he could have stayed around to graduate. Instead, he dropped out to become, of all things, a televangelist.

When you hear Huckabee speak for a while, it becomes apparent that he is an intelligent man. Nevertheless, he is branded by his origins. This will forever keep him out of the same league as better-educated politicians. (If you don't think we are a class society, look again.) And keeping a grinning past-it television sheriff always at his elbow shows the level of his taste.

By now, Huckabee has served as a state governor and has traveled. He's had a chance to see the larger world and he chooses to remain a populist, probably for reasons of political expediency. Thus, even though by now he probably knows which fork to use, he still appears to be a hick. "I am taking back this country for Christ" said Huckabee.

And when his supporters say things like "he has learned all he needs to know about the Middle East by reading the Bible" (as one said yesterday on townhall), his entire movement is perceived as a hick movement. Populist=hick. Nobody can be blamed for his origins, but some people learn along the way how to behave. A man who chews gum or tobacco, wears a Western tie, makes racial jokes, talks about guns all the time, and thinks Patsy Cline represents the pinnacle of American music (I am not speaking of Huckabee, just giving examples) will be viewed as a hick. Get used to it.

huck
perhaps huck is a nice fellow and accepts the adage that wrestling with pigs only leaves you both muddy. But these are not days when nice fellows inspire others to act likewise. We live in a dangerous world inw hich the enemies philosophy is that being a nice fellow is also being a weak fellow. The dims in wash do not respect nice. The leftist parasites, swimmer kennedy, tough talker durbin, land deal redi and red pelosiwould rather see the repubs lose than america win, but of course that all changes when they are in charge. With a dim as president the left will take what ever course of action keeps them in power even if the same plans were previously advanced by the repubs. But the dims have so poisoned the well of co-operation that even should a dim become president, they will find themselves helpless to get much accomplished unless the dims also have an overwhleming majority in both houses and that probably won't occur either. We what a man of the cloth to be a nice and pleasant fellow. But we need a president who is both tough enough and reslient enough to makje the hard decisions that come with that office. I suspect huck isn't that type of person

tibby, hats off to ya
Worse if Hillary is nom.'d and Barack is veep, you'll be a sexist and racist when you don't vote for them.

People should get over Giulinai's wives and see he is the only tested leader we have against lawlessness (he was an outstanding prosecutor-- even illegals), civil disruption (he made NYC streets and parks walkable again--after all the experts now harping on his private life said NYC was ungovernable), and he lowered taxes 20%. All that Bloomberg raves he did for NYC, actually all comes from Giuliani.

If not Giuliani, then McCain. I'm not waorking for a Huckabee or Romney who will both turn the entire election into a debate on religion conducted by a leftwing secular media that isn't religious and can't report on it.

Fred will make an ex. veep for either.

commence spinning at 2500 rpm
So let me get this straight. Huckabee is either a nasty fake Elmer Gantry type (my suspicion) who used a trick to get a negative ad dispersed for free while remaining clean in his followers' eyes, OR

He's a naieve waif who can't see how his actions will be interpreted by the media or those who aren't exactly enamored of him (folks such as, oh, I dunno....Muslim terrorist groups?)


Do you really want either of the above as your president?

But let's not forget, while he assumes a nice-guy persona, he's hired one of the nastiest meanest guys in the biz as his campaign manager. Yet this writer and others think he's a prince of a guy.

Now who's the naieve ones?

renny
the dims like to flaunt the missus clinton's devotion to the sexual predator bubba. But there is one difference in comparing the clinton's to rudy. Rudy hasn't been lucky in love and probably has mishandled ending his marriages but when you see rudy and his wife at least they look happy and act as though they like each other. The clinton's always act as though their time together must be planned and for as short a period of time as possible. I would rather listen to someone who is upbeat on life rather than be lectured by someone who sounds and acts as though life is a trial to be endured.

Huck the liar
Somehow in all this everyone has forgotten that Huck is the ONLY one who has gone negative. He attacked Romneys Religion and constantly Mitts Character based on lies and half truths. Made ads to "not run" only to show to the media and now can be easily found on you tube.

Mitt has done nothing but compare their records and as Mitt has said, if that counts as an attack ad then perhaps there really is a problem with the guys record.

But this notion that Huck is taking the high road and refusing to attack his opponets is complete BS as Huck is the ONLY person attacking other candidates religion and character!!!

Iowa victory!
The MSM wouldn't know what to do with a genuine act of repentance if it hit'em square between the eyes. I think that was a good lesson for Mike to learn. Nevertheless, it didn't seem to hurt him in the end now did it?

Gullible Columnist
Okay, if Huckabee was really honestly changing his mind about going negative, etc. as described in this column, where did everybody get the broadcast quality copies of the negative commercial that you can now find on youtube and the websites of every broadcast outlet in the country? "I decided not to run this negative ad, but not before giving a copy to every television station, so that they can lock it away in a closet and not run it"? You want me to believe that? Huckabee is a huge shyster, or even a huckster.

Huckster
def: a person who employs showy methods to effect a sale, win votes, etc.: the crass methods of political hucksters.

I think it fits, I like the way Thompson handled NBC this morning not saying whose campaign lied that he was withdrawing but rather, told the News media to verify their stories with him first. He's a class act and more to the point, shows leadership and puts the media where they need to be put - silenced on false stories.

Thompson 08

Impossible...
...for anyone wanting to be President to be that much of a naif. The whole thing was chorographed by Rollins. Pleeze people. Everything is analyzed by these staffs. This was a political move, just like the "cross" in the ad. Anybody thinking that was a coincidence is a fool.

Thompson 08 Come Hell or High Water. Get a real conservative.

Huckabee = Bill Clinton + Jimmy Carter
This guy is so far from conservative, it's not even funny.

Can't we have Joe Lieberman as the GOP nominee? That way, at least we'd have a deeply religious social liberal who KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY...!

Huckabee=ProLife Democrat
Reagan is spinning at 50k rpm about now...

lilly
lilly writes: Monday, January, 07, 2008 11:39 AM
"Some Kind of a Hick"
And when his supporters say things like "he has learned all he needs to know about the Middle East by reading the Bible" (as one said yesterday on townhall), his entire movement is perceived as a hick movement.

----------------

Really lilly. When you were fantasizing that you actually learned anything concerning the middle east a fair number of the posters here were actually involved and doing something about it.

Please speak when you have something relevant to say about an issue. These constant vitriolic episodes are tiring.

Just curious
We get hammered with the approval ratings of the Prez and Congress all the time, but what's the approval rating of the MSM?

Mud
When you pray for rain, you gotta be ready to wade in mud.

Fivo
"Really lilly. When you were fantasizing that you actually learned anything concerning the middle east a fair number of the posters here were actually involved and doing something about it."

What the h*ll is that supposed to mean? Don't get me wrong I am not writing this because I feel Lilly is in need of help defending her positions (some of her positions are pretty much indefensable). But where did Lilly say she knew anything about the Middle East? Perhaps I am wrong (and I am sure you all will let me know just how wrong I am) but one's knowlege of the Middle East has nothing to do with pointing out that at least one Huckabee supporter believes all anyone needs to know about today's Middle Eastern situation can be learned by reading the bible. To me that is a sign you may just be a hick.

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