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Friday, November 09, 2007
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Out of It
by Paul Greenberg
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It's time I faced it. There some things that are just beyond my limited understanding. Like the latest hubbub over the concentration of wealth in American society. It happens every time the economy has a growth spurt. Naturally those at the top, often enough the entrepreneurs and investors who made the growth possible, reap the benefits. As in the 1920s, aka the Roaring Twenties. Or throughout the late 19th century as the country underwent perhaps its most intense period of economic development. The more wealth is created, the more envy.

The latest report from the U.S. Census Bureau confirms that there hasn't been so great a difference between the incomes of the richest and poorest Americans since, well, since the Census Bureau began measuring income inequality some 40 years ago. The highest-earning fifth of the American population now accounts for slightly over half (50.4 percent) of all U.S. household income, while the bottom fifth earned only 3.4 percent of total U.S. income in the year being measured (2005).

Yet real median annual household income - the midpoint of all American incomes - rose in 2005 by 1.1 percent to $46,326. The income of the top fifth of American earners rose by 2 percent, bringing their mean annual income up to $159,583. While the mean annual income for the bottom 20 percent of American earners rose 0.6 percent to $10,587. Result: the percentage of Americans living below the poverty level fell slightly - by 0.1 percent - to 12.6 percent of the population.

What these figures mean, if anything, or how fair or accurate they may be, or how much they reflect the effects of immigration or single-parent households or technological change Š all that can be left to economists and sociologists to argue over.

But this much is for sure: Separate but equally partisan politicians - and pundits - will make the most of the numbers they carefully select to buttress their own prejudices. The only thing this flood of data means to me is that the rich keep getting richer while the poor get a little richer, too. So this is news in America?

Others may get excited debating the significance of these latest stats, but my first reaction to them was to get another cup of coffee in a vain attempt to stay awake. I know there is something about economic inequality that is supposed to rile Americans, and indeed it does, almost instinctively. But I find it hard to summon up the expected ire. What does it matter to me if other folks' income is up so long as mine increases, too?

Of course great wealth, like great power of any kind, can be abused. That's why we have criminal laws and a plethora of economic regulations. But it is the very existence of great wealth that seems to offend some of our politicians and various others with a gift for agitation. Me, I figure all those wealthy entrepreneurs and successful investors are providing more jobs, higher incomes and greater opportunities for the rest of us.

There must be something wrong with me. I find it hard to resent the Bill Gateses and Warren Buffets of the world, or the Tysons and Waltons here in Arkansas, for that matter. I just wish we had more such. On the theory that we'd all benefit by their investments and philanthropy.

Tocqueville depicted democracy in America as a constant tension between liberty and equality. Things haven't changed all that much since the 1830s, when he pointed out that policies which favor liberty for the individual tend to discourage equality in the whole society.

It would take a far-seeing statesman like James Madison to argue in the Federalist Papers that a proper constitution would restrain democracy's leveling tendencies so it might support rather than subvert individual liberty.

Whenever figures likes these from the Census Bureau come out, we're all supposed to be disturbed about the growing gap between rich and poor, or even upper-middle and lower-middle, but I'm still waiting for someone to explain why. And not just repeat vague pieties about the need to keep everybody roughly as rich, or rather as poor, as everybody else.

A professor at Syracuse University, Arthur Brooks, notes, "income is just one item of importance in the lives of Americans. There are many others - from love to faith to happiness - that we care about, some of them far more."

Certainly no one sane cares about only money. Whatever the distribution of American income, Professor Brooks notes, survey after survey indicates that Americans are among the happiest and most optimistic of peoples. Maybe because most of us know money is important but not all-important.

The view that life is good in these United States must be widely shared, for so many elsewhere are trying to make it in - while few if any Americans are rushing to get out.

No wonder the politics of envy doesn't work as well here as in other places. Are we really supposed to be unhappy because somewhere in this country others are richer or happier than we are?

It may not be done to admit it, but Americans are basically a forward-looking, enterprising and confident lot who aren't much for envying the rich. Especially since we hope to join them someday.

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if everyone were 2x as rich, gap doubles
between rich and poor.
Abra-cadabra, wave a wand, everyone's real wealth doubles:

Men with 5 suits suddenly had 10.
kids with 1 pair of pants suddenly had 2.
Everyone had 2x as much living space.
Those with 10 yr old old cars now have 5 yr old cars. Something like that.

Everyone, even those at the very bottom would be better off than they were before.

But you'd find people who would complain that things are worse, since the gap between rich and poor had doubled/

if everyone were 2x as rich, gap doubles
between rich and poor.
Abra-cadabra, wave a wand, everyone's real wealth doubles:

Men with 5 suits suddenly had 10.
kids with 1 pair of pants suddenly had 2.
Everyone had 2x as much living space.
Those with 10 yr old old cars now have 5 yr old cars. Something like that.

Everyone, even those at the very bottom would be better off than they were before.

But you'd find people who would complain that things are worse, since the gap between rich and poor had doubled/

if everyone were 2x as rich, gap doubles
between rich and poor.
Abra-cadabra, wave a wand, everyone's real wealth doubles:

Men with 5 suits suddenly had 10.
kids with 1 pair of pants suddenly had 2.
Everyone had 2x as much living space.
Those with 10 yr old old cars now have 5 yr old cars. Something like that.

Everyone, even those at the very bottom would be better off than they were before.

But you'd find people who would complain that things are worse, since the gap between rich and poor had doubled/

As It Should Be
In a free society there are going to be those, who through ingenuity and tenacity, rise to the top of the pile while others who lack one and/or the other don’t fair as well. Why shouldn’t the producers reap the rewards of their labors?

If Hitlery “we’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good” Klinton becomes president, you can bet there will be a massive redistribution of wealth through taxes and entitlements. Instead of “winners” and “losers,” we’ll all be reduced to mediocrity.

The competitive spirit of a free market economy is what has driven America to be the wealthiest country in the world. Where is the incentive to prosper if the fruits of your labor are stripped from you and given freely to underachievers?

Of course there are exceptions; those born with a silver spoon and those unfortunates who through no fault of their own have been dealt a bad hand. Many who gain wealth with such ease live in misery while those with less material wealth, who value things like love, friendships, and spirituality, are indeed rich in ways that money can’t buy.

We are largely free to rise to the level of our own incompetence just as it should be; let’s hope it remains so.

Everyone is a self-man person; only the successful admit it.

http://klintons.com

GrabbyBaby Nation
Just walk through the toy stores now that Christmas is coming. You will see what causes this toxic envy (and envy, I do believe, is the most toxic of the deadly sins). Watch the weary-eyed parents loading up carts and carts with four-figure loads of Goodies; and watch for the screaming, flailing tots in these stores demanding something that Mama says (temporarily) that they cannot have.

Kids Rule. And when Kids Rule, its all about Gimmee and nothing about Giving. Well, the only kind of Giving you hear about at this time of the year is the kind where nine different groups of shills for ThePoor shake cans of change in your face and demand that you pay cash so Goodies Can Flow.

We got our annual Push from the office already yesterday, and the most discouraging of all is that they have focused very hard on discouraging people from providing actual presents for TheNeedy. CASH! They demand CASH! Do not bother to think nabout ThePoor as needy individuals; they are simply ThePoor, and they NEED your CASH! Let people whose job it is to spend that cash take care of individualizing them, if they feel like it (and they do not) -- just write that cheque and forget it!

America has always succeeded beyond the dreams of the envious socialists abroad because it is a nation of individuals. Canada is failing because it is a nation of Proletariat Groups whose sole focus is on the Group who has more than they have.

Let us turn back the tide of GrabbyBaby Nation and stop the idea of forced equality For The Good Of All. Individualism is what brought down the Berlin Wall. Socialism puts it back up. Choose.

Mike Huckabee RIPS CEO PAY

Sorry...
But you're only as poor as you label yourself. My own mother is still busting her asss. 40-60 hour work weeks, some college. She barely makes 25k a year at 63 and lives in CT. But you will never hear her say "boo hoo somebody has more than I do". Instead she holds her head high and says I can do anything a person with money can. And she does it without credit cards or the attitude of many who believe the world owes them.
She raised 3 kids on an income of less than 10k and at the time, the rent we paid was 300/month nothing included. Go figure that I never called our family poor. Our needs were always met and then some. Nope, no envy here, just a solid woman making her way.

What the left isn't telling you
The left loves to talk about the growing inequality, but they don't like to talk about how many of those who are wealthy are themselves leftists.

Another thing they don't like to talk about is how those wealthy leftists would rather be taxed to the gills than to be forced to have their children suffer any sort of disadvantage (like having them attend a public school, for example). The result is that those kids get the best jobs, and the rest of us have to scramble for the crumbs.

Consider the columnists for the NY Times. Is this something the average person can aspire to? Of course not. Every one of them either went to an elite school, or an Eastern school, or both. I don't know their class background, but it's a good bet that all of them came from wealthier backgrounds than I did.

Another thing leftists don't like to talk about is the ever rising cost of tuition at our colleges. For some reason, the left never takes a jab at the greed in "Big Academia," in spite of those out of control costs, while always socking it to Big Oil.

And why is college so expensive? Partly because it takes a lot bureaucracy to administer all the fussy little rules the left wants in the name of "fairness." Then what happens is that the poor can't afford college any more, as though that is fair.

There's a lot more to this issue than the left wants to admit.

Tax breaks and shipping jobs over seas
Bush's tax breaks did indeed help make the wealthy wealthier, plus it helped to put the deficit to breathtaking heights. We are now paying for that as I hear that China is thinking about dumping the worthless dollar in favor of the stonger Euro. Now with that out of my system the other thing that has make the gap widen is the export of family wage jobs overseas.

Ever call to get technical advice on your computer or cell phone. The folks answering are in India or Mexico and can barely speak English. Not to mention the manufacturing industry. The Corporations can make big profits by using cheap overseas labor while the average working American is push to the edge of poverty.

Part of the Corporations incentive to go overseas, is that they then don't have to pay benefits, such as retirement or health benefits. They must compete with car makers in Japan and Germany where those benefits are covered by the government. It is not an even playing field.

S-P-I-N
Yes, we can all spell S-P-I-N.

"Income is just one item of importance in the lives of Americans...there are faith, hope, and charity" (or words to that effect). Mr Greenberg forgot "Money doesn't buy happiness" and "Look for the silver lining". Actually, he could just look up the lyrics to the popular songs of the Depression, which so often were about finding joy in spite of poverty.

What has been the increase in CEO salary? I'm tired of looking it up every time the subject of income disparity comes up. It's something like 500 x the salary of the average worker, astronomically beyond the divide in any other industrialized nation and shockingly increased during the past seven years of Republicanworld.

The other day while strolling through a department store I stopped to look at a display of men's shirts. They weren't gold-plated, but they cost $180 apiece. Then on the way home, after passing half a dozen restaurants where dinner runs $150 pp and dodging the odd occasional Lexus or Bentley as I crossed the street, I observed the usual mentally ill homeless men still sleeping in the park. This troubles me. Something is horribly out of fit here. And no, townhallers, I'm not a Communist.

Out of It
No, lilly (s-p-i-n) Your not a communist. Your a bloody liberal who can't fathom the only way to improve living status is productivety. Produce more expend less. Prices, cost goes down. CEO's earn their income by improving productivity. Cost per unit produced.

The Lucky Poor
Greenberg has a point -- we should not focus solely on how much money everyone is making.

Instead, we need to focus on the conditions that lead to income inequality. Are people in the bottom 20% of all earners from households where good schools, good jobs, and health care are adequately available? Were those in the top 20% of earners given an equal playing field for realizing success? Do upper and middle class youth have more access to capital, test preparation, and transportation alternatives than their lower class counterparts? I would say they do.

It is time to stop pretending that income inequality happens in a vacuum and that all those in the upper income levels are "entrepeneurs and investors who made the growth possible." Rather, some are just lucky.

Lonny Stern | http://www.hopestreetgroup.org

Liberty Lilly
is not defined by taking from the rich to give to the poor. But I hear the Democrat mantra now echoing down to the unwashed masses "we must make the rich pay their fair share" - which means elect us and we'll get even with those rich #$%^@s. Seems the Democrat play book since I've been alive is to play class envy...

lilly
I understand your compassion but the problem won't be solved by adopting a Robin Hood mentality of soaking the rich to give to the poor. As many posters have noted the productivity, creativity, and entrepeneurism of our capitalistic system do more to help the poor rise above their situation than socialism. I don't have an easy answer for the homeless problem although I suspect more of it is due to drugs and alcohol than just bad luck or circumstances beyond ones control. I do not envy Bill Gates or Donald Trump. Their ability to create wealth also creates many jobs. I am just an average working stiff. Between my wife and I we gross about $50,000 a year. So unlike Gates, Trump, and others I don't have millions of dollars in the bank or credit access to the same to grow the economy and increase the number of jobs available to people. Taking from the rich to give away is like killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

Not all that much wealth is inherited.
The harder I work the luckier I get.

I came from modest beginnings, very modest. I worked from the time I was eleven, paper routes, bus boy, gas attendant, construction.

Paid my way through the 11th best school in the nation. No scholarships, no loans. Lived in a mortuary for a small stipend, worked in a fancy restaurant for cash and meals.

Started my business from savings and savvy.

Bill Gates perfection of the Windows OS made my business model possible and prosperous. I don't begrudge him a nickel.

I am in the top one percent. I earned it. I earn it. I give to charity regularly, not because I owe it but because I want to. I don't pretend I'm "giving back" because I never took in the first place.

Poverty is a transitional state. We will always have the poor, but they will never be the same individuals.

I agree with the esteemed Mr. Greenberg, it's mostly boring pseudo-intellectual half-wit jibberish. It's a search for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

The "rich"...
...are already "paying their fair share". The top 50% of wage earners in this country are already paying 96% of the taxes. What more do you people want?

Of course, the truth is that for commielibs like Lilly and Lonny, etc, it's never enough. And that is even though most of that top 50% are not what the average thinking person would consider "rich".

And what is even funnier is that, yes, most of the so-called "rich" are themselves flaming libs. Guilt over being wealthy is the only reason I can think of to account for it. Of course, that guilt does not extend to putting their money where their collective mouth is and giving their money to the "poor". Even if the tax rate were jacked back up to FDR's level of 90%, they will still have their assorted tax shelters, trust funds, etc, so that they will still be living in style with their guilt. Go figure.

Oh, and Lilly; the reason those "mentally ill homeless men" are still sleeping in the park is because they won't take their meds. Period. And you can't make them either. If anyone tried, you'd have ACLU lawyers coming out of the woodwork, suing everyone in sight over such a "craven violation of their civil liberties". I don't know about where you live, but here in Houston there are plenty of places for people like this to go for help, too. But they have to want to go. I don't know what the solution to that particular problem is, but soaking the rich certainly won't solve it.

Remember
Today, nearly 24 million (eight percent) of our countrymen are veterans. Of those, 33 percent served in Vietnam, 18 percent in the Gulf War, 14 percent in WWII and 13 percent in Korea. About three percent served in Iraq and Afghanistan and other counter-terrorism theaters. More than 25 percent of those veterans suffer some disability.

Please pause with us at 1100 EST this Sunday to pray for all our veterans.
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