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Wednesday, February 07, 2007
Paul Greenberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Molly Ivins then and now
by Paul Greenberg
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"Every village is about to lose its idiot." Molly Ivins on the convening of the Texas legislature

"If his IQ slips any lower, we'll have to water him twice a day." Molly Ivins describing a Texas congressman

"There are two kinds of humor. (One kind) makes us chuckle about our foibles and our shared humanity. The other kind holds people up to public contempt and ridicule. That's what I do." Molly Ivins in an interview that appeared in People magazine.

Before the snow started falling here earlier this week, this was going to be a different kind of column. It was going to be oh-so-serious, high-toned, eloquent, Churchillian even. But as the deadline neared, the snow started blurring all the edges - outside on the still street, and inside my mind. I realized I'd been writing an editorial, not a column.

If there is any one thing that distinguishes an editorial for a newspaper from a signed column, it's that the column ought to have something more personal about it. It should sound like someone you know wrote it.

That's the way Molly Ivins wrote when she was the Molly Ivins of the old Texas Observer, but of course no one could write like that forever, not even Molly Ivins.

As the years went by, she wrote less and less like that. She got so busy being Molly Ivins the legend that Molly Ivins the fresh voice faded, replaced by a reprise of her favorite lines.

Whatever the reason, Molly went from being a writer first and last to being a kind of performer, giving her audience just what they demanded, felt comfortable with, and loved her for - like a chanteuse always being asked to sing her best-known songs, never having a chance to try something different.

But right up to her long expected demise at a much too young 62, there were flashes of the big ol', good ol', raw-boned ol' Texas girl she'd always been. It came out when she talked about her illness. ("I'm sorry to say (cancer) can kill you, but it doesn't make you a better person.") That's what some of us liked most about Molly - not an ounce of sentiment to her. She was vinegar all the way through.

I won't deny being envious of her talent on at least one occasion. That's when she used the perfect phrase to describe an event I'd witnessed - but didn't have the wit to sum up in single phrase. It happened when Molly encapsulated the whole, hateful spirit of Pat Buchanan's beer-hall harangue at the 1992 Republican convention in a single phrase. She said it "probably sounded better in the original German." Perfect.

Some of us may have disagreed with Miss Molly about a few things like politics, life, art and just about everything else. But we carried her column in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette out of respect for her sheer natural talent. Till it got so we could anticipate her every Texanism before she repeated it. After a while, that kind of thing gets to be old sombrero.

You have to feel sorry for a younger generation that never knew Molly Ivins in her prime, but only Molly Ivins the public monument, the folk heroine who was rolled out on appropriate occasions to delight those of the right, or rather left, persuasion.

But there was a time when Miss Ivins delighted all, when every column was as wry as a really good margarita, as doughy and nourishing as a hand-rolled tortilla fresh off the griddle. As when, always a Fort Worth kind of gal, she described Dallas as the kind of town "that would have rooted for Goliath to beat David."

Miss Molly was a Smithie of the old, pre-politically correct school, class of '66. She was at her most adorable - how she would have hated that word, adorable - when mixing her Smith Latin and Old Texican, as in: "The sine qua non, as we say in AmarilloŠ."

I was once married to a lady like that (Waco High, '54; Smith College, '58), though she would never have thought of showing off her learning. And there's just no other word for that combination of Texan and Terence but adorable.

Finally, let it be said in tribute to Miss Molly that, even when she stole a line or three, inadvertently of course, she stole only from the best: Florence King.

You have to admire somebody with both that kind of taste and that kind of nerve. No wonder she didn't last at the New York Times.

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I'll miss Miss Molly. We all will
She could sure reduce a Texas pol's Stetson hat size with her wit. One Molly Ivins column about W was worth a lifetime of Will Ferrell imitations of the smirking Bush of Crawford.

It must've galled W's mom, a Smith College dropout, to have read so many columns about her Yale boy's intellectual and political prowess, that were so so elegantly scribed by Smith grad, Miss Molly.

Real classy tribute from Paul Greenberg.

Is this a conservative column?
Mr. Greenberg is certainly entitled to his warm feelings about Ms. Ivins. I question its appearance here. Ivins weekly diatribes epitomized the modern liberals viewpoints. Ivins' columns were almost always very nasty, and full of personal attacks on George Bush, and other Republicans. The gist of most of her articles was how stupid all conservative are, and how much she loathed us. Her pieces rarely contained anything of substance, and her level of vitriol was surprising even for modern day liberals.

Churchill59
It never surprised my how mean, nasty and vitriolic she was in every column. Maybe 40 years ago she was witty, but I doubt it. The left is so full of hate for everything American that the venom simply flies out of their mouths every time they open them. Ivins would not have recognized the truth if it bit her. Truth and facts have no place in a liberals diatribe, they have a nasty habit of getting in the way of their lying rants. Mrs. Parker wrote a similar column about Ivins and it got the exact same reaction as every misguided attempt by Bush to be compromising with the traitors in congress. That is to say that the conservatives rightly bashed the attempt at conciliation and the liberals used it for more propaganda. We have to understand that in the war for civilization, the left-wing nutcases are the enemy every bit as much as the Islamofacists they are aiding.

Rich
Here here!

Rich and Churchill
I agree...this collumn would be better suited for The Nation. Perhaps she was different in her Texas prime, but the Molly Ivins I read was, like all liberals, grindingly angry, hateful and unfunny. Perhaps she crossed the same line as George Carlin...from wit to bitter cynic.

Liberals like Steven loved her for propping up their myth of Bush's stupidity. How it must have galled them to learn that Bush's academic record was superior to John Kerry's; how desparately they try to escape the fact that Bush is intellectually superior to them (as if their own education and achievements can hold a candle to his)

While I regret her death, I will miss her collumn in much the same way as I miss an irritating and unsightly rash.

Commenters missed the point, I think
I think the commenters above might have missed the point of the column, at least as I read it.

The column acknowleges that in her later years Ms. Ivins was a shadow of her former strength and wit. She has been phoning in boilerplate vitriol for years, and the column points that out, while noting that it is a shame that more people couldn't have read her in her prime, which some of the commenters obviously haven't.

Also, I don't think it is that unusual for a newspaper or columnist to note excellence in the opposition. For example, I am as conservative as they come yet will bow to no one in my admiration of Nat Hentoff, who is an outstanding and insightful writer even tho he writes for the Village Voice and even when I flat out disagree with him.

One could write similarly about Garrison Keillor's Prairie Home Companion, which was an American institution before Mr. Keillor succumbed (hard) to Bush Derangement Syndrome. Even in spite of itself it acts to support conservatism in the musical acts and it's traditionally structured comic acts.

It wouldn't be betraying conservatism to point that out, and it wouldn't be betraying conservatism to note that Molly Ivins was someone worth noting before she became a hard left ranting loon.

Now, some Righties even kick the dead.
Paul Greenberg's column about Molly Ivins was right on the mark. It just seems as if some self-styling "conservatives" are so ideologically brainwashed that they can't even take a moment to just let Miss Molly pass away quietly.

If our more ideological-minded conservative friends would just lighten up, learn to laugh at themselves more and recognize that the other side isn't any dumber, they might just get the gist of what Molly was trying to do with her political writing -- get people not to take themselves and their pet ideas so seriously.

But, I guess some conservatives will never get this gist. And, that'll give Miss Molly the last laugh -- on their dime.


Say Hi to Saddam & Ken Lay for us.....
She never did get over being stood up at the Prom by George Bush.

I_Know_---_It_Makes_Too_Much_Sense
Her roommates Jimmy Carter and his gay lover Fidel Castro will be arriving one day for H*ll's Uglyfest.

Um...
I keep hearing (in essence) "Come on! Get a sense of humor and laugh at her spiteful, hate-filled, mean-spirited, single-minded bashing of Bush and conservatives in general! What? You don't find her vitriol funny? You have no sense of humor!"

And, of course, for pointing out that she has been for decades (if nto for her entire career) a mean-spirited, hateful creature, I will be accused of being heartless...

Yet these are the lefties who gleefully keep count of American dead in Iraq... but I am the hateful one? Because I think an angry harpy is not someone to lionize?

Molly Ivans
I must have missed Ms. Ivans when she was funny and witty. All I ever read was hateful,spiteful and not funny. I am sorry for her early death, since my mother died at 54 with cancer. That does not make me stupid or hateful to not miss her articles. She never found anything good about conservatism. She was a bleeding heart liberal through and through. I quit reading her long ago. She never saw anything good in either President Bush.
I don't see her having much in common with Rush Limbaugh, though he also harpoons liberals and feminists with sarcasim and irreverent humor. This country is largely patroitic and conservative except for the welfare states who will always have their hand out and expect the rest of us to "take care" of them. It was a fellow Texan who started this "Great Society" mess. She probably loved Mr. Johnson. Goodbye Ms. Ivans, I will not miss you.


Kimberly
I'll drool over Michelle with an AK. H*LL, I'd LOVE to take her SHOOTING!

Who do you drool over? A picture of Lynne Stewart or maybe Andrea Dvorkan?

EWWWWWWWW!

Please explain
I too found Molly Ivins to be mean and ugly and certainly NOT funny-(and I avoided her columns like the PLAGUE that they were)-- what I would like to know though, is what the comment (I see it too often on TH)- what does Here Here mean???
I supposed it to be like saying "Hear, Hear"--as in agreement with a comment. But if I am wrong, I would like to be enlightened!! Thanks

Wow...who knew?
Who could have guessed after all these years that liberals were concealing this deep font of merriment and mirth? I suppose we could have gotten an inkling of it from their leaders; after all, who can't appreciate the humor of "Lurch" Kerry, Al (The Human Toothache) Gore and Shrillary Clinton?

They must have been hiding this humor, along with their "plan" for Iraq, under their public veneer of relentless anger, vitriol and shrillness. When they are unable to silence their critics, they resort to profanity, then violence. I guess this is funny stuff to them. And no doubt meetings of feminazis, eco-weenies and "peace" activists produce plenty of belly laughs; we just haven't been privy to it.

Steven tells us that we must learn to laugh at ourselves and realize the other side is no dumber than we. Perhaps he can enlighten us on which liberal has done this. How does finding clever ways to call Bush (and Reagan, Ford, etc.) dumb equate to laughing at yourself and admitting that the other side is no dumber? What conservative has ever called liberals dumb? (Joe Biden and Alec Baldwin don't count, for obvious reasons)

And sorry, Kimmy, we're not buying the Left's argument that the "victimhood" of their mouthpieces immunizes them from any examination of the lies they spew. Rush wasn't making fun of Fox, he was exposing his lies and the fact that he uses his affliction as a tool to spread his lefty propoganda. And it won't work with Cindy Sheehan either, even if she does look like Bob Denver.

Come to think of it, your assertion that the Left has a sense of humor is probably the funniest thing I've heard from liberals in quite some time, at least since Kerry's "botched jokes".

Sorry Steven
I hope Mrs. Ivins finds more peace in the hereafter than she did in life. Admittedly, I missed the writings of her early years, but her later writings were often bitter, cynical, shallow, and factually inaccurate.

She reminded me of an old grandmother, who used to rant and rave about politics, but no one took her seriously.

I always made a point to read her columns (and I even encouraged people at work to read them), but not because they were enlightening. Quite the contrary, they were the stuff of comic relief.


@Kimberly and animalgirlisback
Actually, I find liberals themselves are a laugh riot. You just can't buy that much comedy with the likes of Clinton (both Bill and Hillary), Gore, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, et al. running around shooting their mouths off.

*I* never called any liberal ugly, by the way. I just thought that was patently obvious to anyone with an iota of common sense. :evil:

Iacobus
Actually, I find them scary as H*LL! Anyone with that thought process, with access to a voting machine, is damaging to the nation if they are on the loose.

In fact, Rove told me that when he picks up Kim's thoughts on his "Liberal Mind-Reading Gizmo" that her every thought weakens the nation.

Greenberg and Buchanan
Paul Greenberg's only use in political discourse was his wide knowledge and explanations of Bill Clinton's Arkansas shennanigans before he was president. But Greenberg was never a conservative and his approval of Molly Ivins' childish slur against Pat Buchanan's 1992 GOP convention speech just shows how liberal Greenberg is. Buchanan's speech to the convention was thrilling, a vigorous defense of conservative values. Sadly, conservatism has been expelled from the Republican convention ever since as the GOP has cowardly run away from its conservative base.

Hi Gunny
I was just goading the girls because, like Ann Coulter, my favorite conservative lady, I like to annoy liberals.

I certainly empathize on the issue of the incompetence of liberals.

Paul Greenburg keeps it in check
I would only expect that as a journalist yourself, Paul, you would never talk ill of the dead, but rather focus on Molly Ivin's one talent: she could put a few words together, and not make all that many grammatical errors.

Once David Duke (heaven forbid!) passes on, one could say he spoke quite eloquently in public. Or, after Saddam's demise, one could say that he indeed struck quite a handsome pose for statues.

Similary, now that Miss Ivin's is gone, we can all agree that she wrote well. And leave it at that.

Oh golly, Miss Molly
Molly was an entertainer not an educator.
I doubt very much that she ever thought that her articles were persuading anyone about anything.
She took Bushisms and elaborated on them with Mollyisms.

I agree...
...with churchill59 and Rich. Is this a conservative column? No! We conservatives should NOT be carrying water for lefties! The only real role Ms. Ivins played is in helping write the hypocrisy of the left large, to wit, the left adored her while vilifying Ann Coulter for being mean-spirited.

And, unfortunately, this Greenberg column does not help. I refer specifically to the part about "it happened when Molly encapsulated the whole, hateful spirit of Pat Buchanan's beer-hall harangue at the 1992 Republican convention in a single phrase. She said it 'probably sounded better in the original German.' Perfect." Would a conservative call that Ivins phrase perfect? Would a conservative refer to Pat Buchanan's convention speech as a "beer-hall harangue" that had a "hateful spirit?" No on both counts. That speech was a masterpiece and those who vilify it have only two motives: outright jealousy and/or because the speech was so truthful it must be shut out.

The only real conservatives are pro-lifers and those who defend traditional marriage. Everyone else is either a pretender or a liberal lefty!

Animalgirlisback
Don't you mean "Mann Coulter"? If you forget the M don't they withdraw your DailyKos day pass?

And, to be honest, I don't expect you lefties to laugh at anything, as generations of PC-ness have made you humor impaired. Just look at how you took any number of decent comedians (early Lenny Bruce, early George Carlin) and turned them into humorless shrill paranoids.

No, humor is the antithesis of the left. After all if you think "Chimpy McBushitler" is the height of humor, you have a real problem...

When she jumped the shark
I think if forced to make a final judgment, what I will always remember about Molly Ivins is that she was the first person (only, actually) I ever heard use the BIG C-word (the one that pertains to the ladies) live on national television, on C-SPAN. I'm guessing it was around 1988 or 89.

No matter how well she could string together sentences in the (distant) past, this tells me all I need to know about this woman's character. Brian Lamb was clearly taken aback, but being the consummate professional that he is soldiered on without comment...

Too bad TH has featured not one,
but two, columns on Ms. Ivins. Both of these columns would have best been shared in private with her family and friends. Personally, I don't care how good of a writer she was, specifically because she fanned the flames of hatred and disrespect for President Bush and this country. Unfortunately, whereever her spirit resides, she is probably thrilled that we are still talking about her even though she's dead.

Speaker For The Dead
I am the 'Speaker For the Dead" (abridged version):

Molly Ivins: first-rate personality (and part time plagiarist) supporting a second-rate intellect.

RIP. The dustbin of history awaits your arrival.


Ms Ivins' writing
At least this column was better than the fawning smooch-fest written by Kathleen Parker last week. I've read Molly off and on (who could tolerate any more?) for many years, and I don't recall this funny, witty person of whom Mr. Greenberg speaks. Perhaps she was at one time, but it was brief enough that I missed it.

Bill O'Reilly made the mistake of trying to ally himself with her as a new analyst in contrast with Al Franken, who is... well, Al Franken. She turned on him quite quickly, chummed up with Franken, and then called Bill a "verbal bully" as I recall. This, coming from Molly Ivins.

Like any sensible person, I'm not glad she's gone, but I am glad that she will no longer be writing her regular ill-informed hate-filled missives. I can honestly say, of all the liberal writers that I've ever had the opportunity to read, she was one of them.

Tyypo
Should be "news analyst" in 2nd paragraph. Whups.

Animalgirlisback: Really?
Rush's attacks on children, sick people, people in third world countries, or anyone else who is weak are just a laugh riot to these people, but not sharp and pithy attacks on the most powerful man in the world.

+ Marxism as an economic model is an abject failure, but it is an appalling success as a tool of social engineering. Left-wing philosophy: members of “victim” groups (women, hyphenated-americans, sexual dyslexics, etc.) are automatically granted gravitas that should shield them from the insensitive comments of big, bad evil white men (members of “oppressor” group) like Limbaugh. However, any convenient white male that assumes that level of responsibility that is far above the conception of the average pedestrian left-wing intellect is of course fair game.

Even in these comments, you have people calling liberals 'ugly.' (A favorite attack of the superficial right. Very intelligent rhetoric, that.

+ I think that the modern left has a clear monopoly WRT the tactics of “invalidation”: all Republicans and anyone that votes Republican must be stupid, a sexist, a bigot and/or racist. Leftists (like the late Ms. Ivins) seem to think that their particular ideology imbues them with an esoteric insight on all matters pertaining to the reality in general and the human condition in particular. If the rest of us were intelligent enough to appreciate the subtle beauty of social engineering (gender/racial quotas, wealth-redistribution, etc.) we would of course be leftists as well. Hence, because we don't agree with the dominant leftist-paradigm we must be stupid.

Very revealing about conservatives, isn't it? They think it's funny to pick on the little guy, but howl if you in any way threaten their power or expose the foolishness of those they want to demagogue.

+ So the left represents the interest of the “little guy”? You mean George Soros & assorted billionaire social engineers, the NEA, the Association of Trial Lawyers of America, ACLU, etc. Sounds like big $$$$ to me. What about the "Welfare Industrial Complex"?

When it comes down to it, though, I think a lot of it is that conservatives don't get wit. They like the moronic puns of Ann Coulter or the blunt attacks of Sean Hannity. I think the cleverness and the wordplay of people like Ivins escape them.

+ There is nothing nuanced about the same old Marxist canard replayed over and over again, and nothing witty about banal feminist entitlement in print…

please
Let the ugly Ms. Ivins go. We all need the rest.

Drive by Kimmy & animalgirlsback
For example, Rush Limbaugh mocking MJ Fox's Parkinson's Disease, or comparing a 14 yr. old Chelsea Clinton to a dog is called "satire" in wingnutville.

Never happened Kimmy. You and animalgirlsback haven't listened to Rush ever. You just get the talking points from the liberal kooks.

By the way, the deal with Chelsea happened about 8 years or more ago on his tv show.

Now both of you go fix me a sandwich.


Molly Ivins' greatest triumph
I thought both Kathleen Parker and Paul Greenberg were gracious and generous in their comments on Molly Ivins, something I have missed in many of the comments to this article.

For the record, I didn't always agree with her either. Yet she was a talented writer who always had a remarkable gift for poking fun at the high and mighty, which is a valuable and worthwhile tradition in American journalism.

While she didn't always aim her barbs at conservatives (read some of her old columns on Lyndon Johnson, John Kerry, etc.), she clearly had a point of view. And that's the job of a columnist: to take a side, make you think and hopefully do so with writing that sometimes makes you think, "Gosh, I wish I'd come up with that line."

In the case of Molly Ivins: Mission Accomplished.


Venom?
It sounds to me like some of you folks have more "venom" for one departed writer than most liberals have for the whole neocon movement. And Ann Coulter is a total sweetheart. Too bad Molly's not here to set you straight. Thank you, Paul Greenberg, for having a sense of humor and having the class to acknowledge the contribution of someone on the "other" side of the aisle.

I Read Her Work When
She was truly witty with a unique outlook. I rarely agreed with her but I could enjoy her style and writing. It is, as Paul Greenberg has written, in recent years that she grew sloppy with the facts, cynical, nasty and pit bull. I shall miss the old Molly. But then I have missed her for years.

Kudos on the classy article, Paul.
Molly should have stuck to her 80's commentary on Texas politics, for which she was dynamite. She had an impressive wit, despite her naive perspective.

Side note: I suspect that if he reads this, Paul is bemoaning the growing element of the pseudo-con blogosphere. Spitting on the dead? You all sound exactly like the petty, classless liberals that you love to hate.

Thank you Kimberly
You are truly a poster child of tolerance and it leaves me in a state of near disbelief that you stoop to soil your garments among us, the vast unwashed neanderthals. I cannot fail to notice how those who share your ideology are so exempt from vitriol and hate, as is evident by a visit to DailyKos.com where the love pours forth in words that often require just 4 letters. Why, I'm just tingling with warm fuzzies as I think of the outpouring of tolerance and inclusiveness.

May I make a suggestion? Perhaps you could seek a career in molecular biology and isolate that hate gene unique to conservatives of which you speak. Put that formidable intellect of yours to work for the betterment of humanity by proving once and for all that conservatives are the hate-filled bigots that you so earnestly want us to be.

Then again, you could also continue to drive by in your '72 Pinto throwing rocks out the window - an art you've perfected to world-class levels.

And Kudos to JohnnyRingo
Pseudo-con blogosphere??!! I love that!

BTW, have I mentioned what a great, big teddy bear, what a creampuff stuffed full with love for his fellow human beings, be they liberal or conservative, what a great uniter of the populace and inspiration to all of us, Rush Limbaugh is? But of course Molly Ivins was nowhere as near as clever, nor as able to soften her barbs with wit and humor as are such warm and funny conservatives as Limbaugh and Coulter, or even some of the warmhearted contributors to this board who are kind enough to point out just how horrible Molly Ivins was, so we can be sure we remember her in the correct fashion. Seriously, love you guys and thank you for your tributes. We really must go funeral-hopping sometime -- our hilarious comments from the back pews will really liven things up.
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