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Saturday, March 03, 2007
Patrick Ruffini :: Townhall.com Columnist
The New Keys to the White House
by Patrick Ruffini
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What does it take to win the White House? Books like The Keys to the White House have tried to answer this question since time immemorial, this one spelling out thirteen (count 'em, thirteen) keys to winning the Oval Office. Those of us who aren't academia nuts speculate on more pedestrian measures, like, "Who's taller?" Or the outcome of the last Redskins game before the election.

Most of these formulas try to predict the winning party, but Presidential elections are tests of will defined by individual leaders. What qualities do the winners of the last few elections share that the losers didn't? I think you can boil it down to five: executive experience, warmth, authenticity, electability, "the 14 year test," plus bonus points for incumbency or past national leadership. Get the most points and you have the most appealing general election candidate.

Here's a spoiler that doubles as full disclosure: I consult for a candidate, Rudy Giuliani, who comes out strong on these measures. But I'm utterly shocked by who else is near the top. Overall, the index does a decent job of explaining the appeal of the current field on both the Republican and Democrat sides. And the last three two-term Presidents -- Bush, Clinton, and Reagan -- scored 4 or more on this scale before being elected.

Executive experience. There's no disputing that the record of sitting U.S. Senators or Congressmen in seeking the White House is none too stellar. The last three two-term Presidents all hailed from executive offices. A direct promotion to the opposite side of Pennsylvania Avenue happened just twice in the 20th Century -- 1960 and 1920.

Score one for Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney; they've managed complex bureaucracies bigger than a Congressional office. A successful tenure at the head of a large organization is the job experience most directly applicable to the Presidency. Rudy Giuliani was a mayor, but for eight years was the leading political figure in a place larger than 39 states. Governor's mansions aren't the sole province of successful executives; Dwight D. Eisenhower managed a little thing called D-Day.

Warmth. This one is as close to an Iron Law of Presidential Politics as you can get: Warm beats cold. Bush beats Kerry and Gore, Clinton beats Dole and Bush, Bush beats Dukakis, Reagan beats Mondale and Carter -- they all fit the pattern. Since the advent of television, the candidate perceived as warmer and more approachable has never lost a general election. (The elections in the '60s and '70s that departed from this pattern were Cold vs. Cold elections.)

This election is an embarrassment of riches when it comes to extroversion and warmth. Count in Giuliani, Romney, Barack Obama, and John Edwards on this one. The jury is still out on John McCain, who was warm by virtue of his kinetic insurgency in 2000 but is running a different kind of campaign in 2008 (I'll grant him half a point because I'm a nice guy). The only one outside the Circle of Warmth is Hillary. As a candidate, she still has to prove that she would be more than an incremental improvement over calculating and technocratic Democratic nominees in the mold of Kerry, Gore, and Dukakis.

Authenticity. This represents a newer dimension in American politics, but one that was instrumental in both of President Bush's election victories. It was summed up by this line in Bush's convention address in 2004: "Even when we don't agree, at least you know what I believe and where I stand." Bush won those elections by being real and building a connection with Americans that transcended poll-tested 14-point policy prescriptions. Democrats have never adapted to this new model.

Authentic politicians speak more freely and are confident enough to acknowledge disagreements with the voters without pandering. Who has authenticity (or the perception thereof) on their side this time? Giuliani, McCain, and Obama.

Electability. This would seem like circular reasoning -- you can only be elected if you're electable. But if you have everything else going for and you're not seen as electable, the chances are you won't make it to the big show. John Kerry was nominated because of the perception that he was "electable." Potentially the biggest exception to this rule was Ronald Reagan, who trailed Jimmy Carter by 30 points or more in early 1980 ballot tests.

On this count, I see most of the major candidates on equal footing. Giuliani, McCain, Clinton, Obama, and Edwards can all be said to meet a basic threshold of electability, having led or been within the margin of error in most general election polls. The only one who consistently trails is Mitt Romney, and we wouldn't know until March 2008 (if he were the nominee) if this was because of his low name identification or something else. He doesn't get zeroed out just yet, but he does get docked half a point.

"The 14 Year Rule." In 2003, Jonathan Rauch posited the "14 year rule" -- the maximum amount of time it takes from when you're first elected to public office to a spot on a winning Presidential ticket. Call it a politician's "sell-by" date. It almost never goes wrong as a predictor of Presidential victory.

Kennedy, Reagan, and Clinton all were elected precisely 14 years after winning their first major office. Others like the current President Bush were even fresher; more experienced hands like Nixon and Bush 41 attained the Vice Presidency within the 14-year window. Romney, Obama, and Edwards are safely inside their sell-by dates. Rudy Giuliani (first elected in 1993) and Hillary Clinton fall right in a gray area -- Giuliani because municipal elections fall on odd-numbered years, Hillary because she has been a constant presence for 16 years, though she has been in elected office for eight. John McCain would nearly double the 14 Year Rule, with 26 years in Congress.

Bonus Points. Incumbents win most of the time, and people who wouldn't otherwise be considered Presidential frontrunners attain that status because of a little thing called the Vice Presidency. This year, we extend that definition to a former First Lady who is widely considered the Democratic frontrunner because of her past national prominence. She gets a half-point bonus. Why just half? Though past national leadership may get you into a general election, it traditionally hasn't trumped factors like executive experience in an open seat election.

The final score: Giuliani 4.5, Obama 4, Romney 3.5, Edwards 3, McCain 2.5, Clinton 2.5. How do past Presidential winners stack up? Bush arguably swept all 5, Clinton had 4 (minus authenticity), Reagan had 4 (minus electability). George H.W. Bush was arguably in the 2-3 range.

Though these may be dismissed as the ravings of a committed Giuliani supporter, I do believe this goes a long way towards explaining the current national momentum of both Giuliani and Obama. And yes, Obama's presence near the top of the list is surprising. Whether someone so inexperienced in public life can get elected hasn't been tested, but past experience shows that Americans may prefer fresher faces when it comes to the Presidency.

Am I wrong? And if so, how would you score both current and past candidates? Weigh in in the comments.

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Patrick Ruffini is an online strategist dedicated to helping Republicans and conservatives achieve dominance in a networked era. He has seen American politics from every vantagepoint — as a campaign staffer, activist, and analyst.

Don't forget the Social Schism Factor
Reagan and Kennedy, both elected after a major social schism of voters. So too with Lincoln, FDR and Andrew Jackson.

Will there be such a shift - we are on the cusp of it. Change is coming.

perceptions and possibilities
This will truly be a bit different election in that each side must choose a non-heir apparent. Money is more critical than ever as is the desire of the MM to decide who has a chance. No question that they embrace Rudy and McCain because they are more liberal kindred spirits, but when you hiccup like Juan Mcquisling has, the MM become sharks smelling blood in the water... he seems to be fading like fog in the morning sun-- good riddance!

Rudy is sounding more liberal every day... I am not concerned about his social issue views per se, but his liberal court appointments and embracing of ILLEGALS are stoppers for me. We will lose America irretrievably to the ILLEGAL invasion if we do not stanch it soon.

Perhaps Hunter CAN get traction... the power money and MM will oppose him because they want those ILLEGALS here. I hope that he hangs in there, though, because Middle American voters are sick of the Scamnesty sell out America's future for cheap labor, miscreant employer $, and latino votes agenda. Only the conspicuous talking heads have caught onto this sentiment so far-- great patriot Lou Dobbs, Rush, O'Reilly, Joe S., Chris M., Glenn Beck... most of the MM erroneously blow off anti-ILLEGAL sentiment as "a fringe issue on the far right," but in reality 68% are truly concerned about it:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back906.html

I have been scared to death of Shrillary, but she is her own worst enemy. They can try to package her and program what she says, but she is simply not the skilled liar that Slick Willie is. Remember how Nixon looked shifty? Hildabeest is like a bad poker player-- you can read the deceit on her evil face. Familiarity might actually breed general contempt.

you forgot an important factor:
the support from AIPAC and the jewish lobby.

The flaw in the model
is the fact that we are in a war with these arab loonies.
Unless the people are totally ignorant they will understand that even though McCain and Rudy are social libs or Rinos, if we lose it won't matter a whit.
This election requires that the next POTUS has the experience and the guts to do whatever is neccessary to protect our way of life.

No dimocrat and especially the hildabeast with her record of distain for the military can do that.

McCain has been to the war college, that makes him unique among the candidates, Rudy certainly has the skills.

I'd like to see Newt in there from a purely idealogical bent, I think the majority will dismiss him though as they ain't smart enough to understand what he says.

If the war is still raging, my money is on McCain and I see him picking Lindsay Graham as Veep, a very tough and smart guy.

Nitty Gritty, part 121
I guess only the intelligentsia can comprehend the intellectual subtleties of Newt.

Too complicated for the typical voter.

Cough.

Talk about "nuanced"! I thought that was what the right so disparaged about Kerry..the arrogance.

I have nothing against Newt, but if his solution on Iraq is a continuation of the disastrous policies of Bush, then he ain't going anywhere.

On McCain, his support of Bush on Iraq is precisely why his candidacy is in a freefall, moronic musings by Rush Limbaugh notwithstanding.

I agree the Hildebeast is anti-military. I don't trust her.

MSM has already coronated Obama. And for what? Has he ever offered a logical, rational position on any issue of import to the nation, or is his smile and blackness sufficient to become president?

I also think, as do a few posters above, that if we lose this battle against Islamism, it won't matter what type of judge a president nominates, or where he stands on abortion.

In this new type of warfare, I don't believe attending a "war college" where tactics on conventional warfare are studied, has much applicability. McCain gets no points there, in my estimation.

At this point, Giuliani seems the most viable candidate to keep the whitehouse out of democrat hands in '08...but if this war continues to go badly, I don't think any GOP nominee can overcome the handicap the war presents to the party.

And for that, thank G.W. Bush.


HUNTER 2008
Conservatives can nominate a conservative. All it takes is not acting like sheep and getting herded into nominating a northeast liberal. 49% will never vote for Hillary, only 60% voted last time. Turnout was the difference. Give Americans a chance to vote for somone who will secure the border and watch turnout soar. Americans want their government to fulfill its most basic resposibility.

The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can't be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don't stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat.


Baaaaah
Baaaah, we need to get behind Rudy, baaaah. Don't let the MSM and the big money players dictate the Republican nominee. Rudy will not get this conservative's vote and I suspect many, many others. Rudy would cause turnout to drop or cause a third party vote split. Not voting for a New York liberal, R or D.

LA Law's Thompson & WI's Tommy Thompson
Former Senator Fred Thompson (the DA from LA Law) debating the 'NASTY' woman, would set a TV ratings record. Fred's all the 'buzz' at CPAC this week. Tommy Thompson is quietly gaining ground in primary polls which is being ignored by the 'drive by media'. This is going to get good!

Ruffini
has a fascinating idea, at least as far as the candidates go.

As Pirate pointed out, there is also the environment that the candiadates have to campaign in. In the 2007 - 2008 environment, we have the Islamofascist War and a major offensive conducted by the Socialist-Democrats to diminish/destroy free-market capitalism.

As for Rudy G., we could do worse, and we could do better. Fred Thompson, Newt Gingrich, Duncan Hunter are but a few viable Republicans. They (including Rudy G.) are head-and-shoulders above socialists like Hillary and Obama.

Run, Fred, Run!
If Fred Thompson gets in the race, that would be one of the most exciting developments I could think of. The conservatives in the Republican party desperately need an injection of adrenalin, and FT could do it.

Personally, I would love to see Obama beat Hillary for the Dem nomination. If he does, then the race will be about philosophy because he approaches issues from a conceptual level. In such debates, conservatives are bound to win, and a philosophically oriented campaign would provide us with a tremendous opportunity to educate the American electorate about the fundamental differences between liberals and conservatives.

If Hillary does win, and I agree with posters who say she's her own worst enemy, the race will be about the so-called "Clinton legacy." I can't imagine anything worse for the country than 12 months of Lanny Davis and James Carville on TV telling us what a great president Bill Clinton was.

Romney/Rudy
When you take a look at all the candidates, Romney and Rudy are the only ones with any meaningfull, successful exeuctive leadership experience. Clinton-nothing unless you give her credit for Bill's time in the whitehouse. Obama-nothing unless you count his time as editor of Harvard Law Review. McCain-none.

On the flip side, Rudy has several years of experience as Major of NYC, and Romney was the CEO of a multi billion dollar company, CEO of the Olympics and Governor of Mass. These are the guys that are qualified to be the next President.

Here's to hoping for a Romney/Rudy or Rudy/Romney ticket in 2008.

Pigpen
You've GOT to be kidding!

Guiliani is

PRO- OPEN BORDERS
PRO - GUN CONTROL

No self-respecting conservative would vote for him.

The Rudy waffle.....

Ron Paul for President in '08
Dr. Ron Paul is a true conservative and constitutionalist, who has shown through his voting record that he walks his talk.

http://www.myspace.com/congressmanronpaul

Voting record:
http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BC031929

An archive of his articles:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

Newt's my man
My first choice is Newt because he is taking on the issues in a very direct, no-spin manner. Seawolf suggests "the majority ain't smart enough to understand what he says." While I will agree that their are some on both sides of the political spectum who won't "get it", I think the bigger problem is they won't take the time necessary to fully comprehend the scope of the issues. With the MSM/Cable News insistance on sound bit mentality and jumping to the next glitzy story (Nicole Ann Smith, etc), they will never get enough facts without investing some time and energy. I have come to the opinion that it will take another 911, of a much bigger magnitude, to wake up the rest of America. And even then some will still find reasons to deny what is behind it. Heaven help us (literally).

Duncan Hunter's standing
Duncan Hunter's standing in the polls may be really 'shocking' to Mr. Ruffini. Notice that Rule of 14 has been doubled by the durable and effective Representative Hunter. Governing experience a real plus? That was the chorus behind the 2000 Bush theatrical. What happened on the Presidential level? I listen to WBZ-AM, and don't hear many things complimentary about the ex-governor; mostly a sigh of relief that he's ex. Duncan Hunter appeals to us who want a candidate who lives and talks the RINO-less way.
He will appeal to rank and file of all parties, and be swept into office; unless the RINO's prevail in the convention. RINO's don't like hunters, naturally. Thanks Virginia Patriot for your persistence, too.

Rudy
For those conservatives who like Newt, Ron Paul and Fred Thompson, apply the five criteria to them. They don't make it. To those who feel that Rudy will appoint liberal judges, you haven't been listening to what he says. Don't look at the judges he appointed in New York without looking at the rules for appointing judges in New York, and at the overwhelming liberal pool of judges to choose from. For those who are concerned about Rudy being about open borders and gun control, he is not. Listen to his own words at:
http://beartotheright.blogspot.com/2007/02/rudy-publicly-states-positions-on.html
when he appeared on Sean Hannity's show.

If someone is going to state a position of a candidate, any candidate, then he should really be informed about where that candidate stands on that issue.

By the way, people do mature politically. Look at how Romney has changed positions over time. So has Rudy. What you want to know is what is that candidates position NOW, not 20 years ago.

I only see Two...

.....real conservatives that would get my vote ...unfortunately neither one has put his hat in the ring (yet) ...Newt and Santorum ...

.....Newt would have to overcome past mistakes and learn how to connect with the common man ...Santorum has the credentials but is still green ...maybe eight years of seasoning as VP would set him up for 2016 ...

.....my fantasy ticket ...Newt/Santorum .....COLOSSUS

Giuliani - No way!
See my on-topic glog essay, a real rebuttal to this lollipop column, by clicking my name. It's entitled "Principle versus Expediency"; talk about being timely!

Rudy can't get the flyover vote
Liberty & Virginia Patriot stated that case well. Guns & Borders will do him in.

As for the model, there is a HUGE shift in our general population: More ignorance, more apathy: 50% of those who voted, voted for KERRY; my logical mind cannot rationalize the man as senator, much less contender for President.

While we've been forced into WW3 to defend ourselves, it would seem a HUGE number of us prefer to pretend it "isn't real," that we can pack up our marbles and go home because it isn't fun anymore and wasn't over in a week. The reality is we may NEVER get to leave the Middle East.

We also have the most subversive national media in known history. While historically people may individually and privately have called the President names and belittled him, it was never a national team sport led by congressional traitors, much less in war time. We have reached a new low: there is almost no dignity, honor or integrity.

Further, as others have stated so much better, it seems we have a new breed of citizen - socialist - who will vote for anyone who will give him the most goodies - with no regards to the financial collapse of the country, or regard for small businesses which are the backbone of our economy.

We've never had so many in this welfare mentality state. Some of this stems DIRECTLY from such massive numbers of unassimilated foreigners coming in here for their piece of the American dream still clinging to their socialist models and not adapting to being capitalists Americans. They like the 'make money any way you want to and pay no taxes' part but they want social medicine, housing, education, etc. too. The rest of us carry the tax burden.

Summary: highest ever level of voters w/ apathy, ignorance and welfare mentality, national lack of integrity, and subversion, unassimilated socialist foreigners - may skew the model.

I pray God change is coming in correcting this insanity.

Amen LadyRebel
Well said. If we foolishly make citizens of those unassimilated foreigners, we're done. Democrat(ick) majorities forever and socialist utopia(cough,cough) will reign supreme. What Rudy said on H&C was that he favored "regularization", the latest "new path to citizenship" pushed by those in favor of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform". Wrong approach, what we need is comprehensive immigration enforcement. Any law officer, anywhere, anytime detaining any illegal alien they run across for deportation. We have to make it clear that you CANNOT BE an illegal alien in the U.S. No other country puts up with this. We have the right and responsiblity to uphold our laws. One reform we probably do need is to end anchor baby citizenship and adding a provision that if we have to deport you, you would become ineligible for U.S. citizenship. The flow would reverse. We have a path to citizenship, illegal aliens have ignored it, sometimes bad choices have bad consequences.

Fred Thompson
Love the guy, but will he run?

Virginia Patriot - illegal entry would
void future citizenship possibility is an EXCELLENT solution. One of the only regulations that I can see working. That leads down an ugly road, too though. We'd have to implant a microchip or code of some kind to identify them.

you said: What Rudy said on H&C was that he favored "regularization", the latest "new path to citizenship" pushed by those in favor of "Comprehensive Immigration Reform".

Interpretation: Surrender to the illegals. Gag.

A friend is a sherrif's deputy in a very large, afluent county here in TN.
When he arrests illegals, he has to TURN THEM LOOSE. There is no method of dealing with them. INS will not come for 1 or 2. A one way bus ticket to the border doesn't work. Besides who would pay for it? The deputy?

He brought to my attention the shear scope of the problem. The only way INS will come is if they have a busload of illegals collected. But, deputies do not have orders to collect them!

We're TN - heartland, no borders for thousands of miles. And our brilliant legislature offered driver's licenses to illegals, who didn't speak English! Fortunately that program blew up in their faces.

When the illegals have guns, the sheriff's dept. calls ATF, so the illegal gets federal jurisdiction. Also, in the case of violent crime they are also detained. Thank heaven for small favors.

One possible solution: A private business group to hire a small force for the sole purpose of rounding up and physically taking illegals back to the border. But, then I can see the border patrol refusing them re-entry! Not to mention the jack-booted thug picture the collectors would present. Maybe the national guard? Nah. Lefties will scream like banshees about soldiers taking over America.

We have a TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE problem on our hands. It is like a wart that became a metastasized cancer. It is so big and complicated as to be almost impossible to save the patient. Some of the pols recognize that and see the easiest fix is to make that illegal part go away, as opposed people.

correction - last line: "easist fix is
to make that illegal part go away as opposed to the making the people go away."

Sorry for errors. If you can understand what I am trying to say - I don't fix it, i.e. typos, to save space. I know I'm long-winded. : )

Fingerprints
Oldest law enforcement technology out there, still works. I believe illegal aliens are already fingerprinted when deported. Coupling the threat of refusing re-entry and citizenship with heavy employer enforcement (drying up the jobs is key) massive roundups and deportations would not be necessary. The argument that it is beyond solution is a straw man designed to get us to give up and go along with another amnesty. Unfortunately that is also what's been behind this administrations decreasing enforcement. They wanted the situation to get much worse to force us into an amnesty. I am not surrendering!!!

Virginia Patriot
I agree. They create the problem and then wait until it gets overwhelmingly bad and then come in with a worse solution, that threatens our liberty.

I firmly believe this is the agenda. I hope we don't buy it.

Gary_Aminoff
You said, "For those conservatives who like Newt, Ron Paul and Fred Thompson, apply the five criteria to them. They don't make it."

That's the biggest crock I have ever heard. Now, you're going to let the blogger who wrote this article dictate who is "electable". What a joke.

Ron Paul is the most conservative rep in D.C. Bar none! If you want a RINO, by all means vote for one of the elite-approved so-called "leaders". If you value freedom, consider voting for Paul, Tancredo and possibly Hunter.

The choice is yours.

No surrender!
Virginia Patriot - I agree with you about that and I also agree with you that I was buying into the fix it overnight dilemma that is being pushed, especially after talking w/ people whose hands are tied.

I love talking w/ people who can punch logical holes in my arguments and show me something I'm not looking at.

You are very wise. I appreciate you sharing your insight.

It is a big and messy problem. But you are right, it is not impossible.

Rice for VP 2008, Pres. in 2016
Like it or not Guliani is a legitimate hero and viewed by most Americans in that light. Heroes are difficult to beat. McCain is done- somebody for God's sake have mercy and take him out of the oven. He looks old and withered. America will never elect him just based on his physical appearance- he looks to feeble to be Commander-in-Chief. Newt has too many enemies, is still portrayed as being Grich-like and an ogre to win a general election. It will be Rudy- no question about it. The fat lady has already sung. Hunter and Tancredo will be viewed as too polarizing to be acceptable as a running mate. Santorum and Romney would be good VP material.

I think the best VP candidate is C. Rice. She would make a great President. Therefore she needs to be kept in the public eye in the coming 8 years, as does Santorum, either retained as SOS or take the next step up as VP. She cannot be demoted or kept out of government or the public eye altogether. She is a living embodiment of the American dream and given that she is a she and black, difficult to beat in say, 2016. What an impeccable resume she would have at that point. Her Achilles heel is that she is unmarried and childless.

At some point, Republicans/conservatives, if they are serious about practicing what they are preaching, will have to put a woman or minority up for the top spot. The country and is now and will be increasingly tired of seeing us trot out the usual suspects- two middle-aged white men. Whether it is true or not, this only reinforces the widely held perception that we a a rich white man's party. No woman or minrity need apply since we will never give you real power or authority. The time to break this pattern and the perceptions it engenders is now.

Liberty
While I don't buy into the globalist illuminati one world govt idea, I do believe there are elements of truth
operating in this illegal situation.

I always want to know "why" whenever I examine something. If I can't know why, I want to know who benefits, and what their agenda is - motive.

Why has this been allowed to continue? Do the mega wealthy want cheap workers this badly? Is this a concerted effort to simply destroy us? Or is it power seeking for its own merits without regard for the fallout? A deal between would be leaders? Who is seeking the destruction of our way of life? Why? Power? Ruling a ruin? A George Soros is easy to understand. Are people like him "they?"

These questions are hard for me to answer unless I put a spiritual spin on it - evil. Evil seeks the destruction of good. Evil doesn't have to be logical. I'm too existential I guess. Just thinking out loud.

LadyRebel
Well, you say you don't believe that there is a concerted plan for world government, so I'm not sure what to say to you. You do know, right, that many in high places have warned us of this throughout time? I have posted a few of those quotes before. Even David Rockefeller admits it in his autobiography, Memoirs. Have you read any of the UN docs such as Agenda 21 and Sustainable Development? All this global warming crap is right from there. If you keep reading, you will understand what is going on. Their hubris has gotten so elevated they even come right out and say it and still, no one listens.

At this point, this is the best thing I have to offer you. I ran into this article a couple of days ago and it's pretty darn good. It also has good links and explains quite a lot. See what you think. Remember to follow the links.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=20963
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Another good place to read is http://www.newswithviews.com. I particularly like Devvy Kidd, because she documents well. http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kiddA1.htm

I also like Deanna Spingola. http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deannaA.htm

There are a lot of good authors that are on that site.


Gasman
Unfortunately, Condi sold her soul to the Council on Foreign Relations. This is the same organization that brought us the plan, "Building a North American Community", that we are currently executing.

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

Listen to what the President of the CFR wrote in 1974. The article is entitled, "The Hard Road to World Order".

“the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down ... an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault.”
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/19740401faessay10106/richard-n-gardner/the-hard-road-to-world-order.html

How about the current President, Richard Haas?
"State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era

In the age of globalization, states should give up some sovereignty to world bodies in order to protect their own interests"

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021


Condi: NO Go
Since Secretary Rice started pandering to the Palastian THUGS, I question her judgement! The Palestians elected their terrorist government and now they should have to live with it. Our trying to rescue them from their own folly is outrageous. By all means Ms Secretary Rice, give them, whatever, so they can buy more ammo and keep killing each other and the Jews. Sheer stupidity!

The Candidates
The following are personal perceptions, no more and no less. It doesn’t come from research, data banks, opinion polls, etc. If I don’t mention a possible candidate’s name, it’s because I know very little if anything about them.

John McCain – D.O.A. I’m an Arizonan. Most of us do not like him and we do not trust him– period. While working on Bush I’s campaign, I came face to face with that infamous temper of his. It’s real. His volatility and nastiness are legendary when his temper gets the better of him. He is neither conservative nor compassionate, just a greedy pol in the worst sense of the word. To know how far back this goes, reference his part in the “Gang of 14.”

Newt Gingrich – I don’t think he has Mr. Ruffini’s point on electability. He just doesn’t.

Hillary Clinton – See most of the John McCain description. Eerie, the similarities between those two. Another nasty temper and very greedy pol. Add also extremely power hungry. Not authentic. Not likeable. About ZERO on the Ruffini scale. She is however about as savvy a pol as I have ever seen, so I wouldn’t turn my back on her for a micro-second until this election is over. I have a feeling she has a TON of markers she can call in to help her try and win this thing.

Barack Obama – I do not want a mind or philosophy like this man has to be the president of the United States of America for any reason or under any circumstances – ever. I don’t know what he is, but by my personal definition of same, he is not an American.

Rudy Giuliani – The caveat here is just a tad of suspicion that Mr. Ruffini’s “model” may have been invented so that the one candidate who could wear it like a suit is – surprise, surprise – Mr. Giuliani! That said, I wish I could vote for this man in so many ways. If his chaotic personal life history doesn’t render him “DOA,” he has a very real chance at the nomination. He has great and proven courage. He is an AMERICAN down to the very fiber of his being. He loves this country with his whole heart and soul. Sound like funny things to say? With this North American Union thing already in the wind, it could prove very important. Where does he stand on this issue? He presents the usual problems for conservatives – illegal immigration, gun control, abortion. IMHO, with the exception of illegal immigration, these things should be left to the states to legislate and control, not the federal government. He can handle the job of POTUS. I have absolutely no doubts about that. (I do have those doubts about some of the other proposed candidates.) Should he be the one? He does talk an awful lot like a liberal about some things……

To the nominated Republican candidate for President: We live in the greatest country ever seen in the history of this planet. Please remember how and what we have done to achieve this. These things are and always will be our greatest strengths. Cherish them and keep them safe with everything you have in you.

Closing personal note: We are at such a gigantic crossroads in this country right now and have had to handle so much since 9/11, huge issues both foreign and domestic. If we don’t get this right, we are going to wake up one morning very soon in a country we can no longer recognize in any way, shape, or form. There are elements, both foreign and domestic, that are trying to tear this country to pieces. We need a candidate who can and will engage those elements and defeat them. The candidate that will do that can count on one thing without question, I will have his back 24/7.

Pipe Dreams
If the GOP nominates Reps. Hunter, Tancredo, or Paul it would be mindless. Beyond the fact that these are parochial candidates who have not likely even held a statewide office, they have 0 recognizability to the general public, who are the ones who will determine this election. Adding Newt Gingrich to that list is laughable. If he had a chance to win, he'd be in. His negatives towards Dems, rightly or wrongly, are larger than Sen. Clinton's are towards the GOP. People would be lining up around the block to vote if he was the nominee.

At this time, people are lining up hard against the GOP, and the candidate that the Republicans must put forth is the one that can make some inroads to gather Independents and Democrats who are Conservative towards security/defense and social moderates.

At the moment, that leaves three candidates to consider, and of the three I feel Rudy is head and shoulders above the rest on many levels, and his increasing numbers in national polls show this. Rudy runs very well with Independents, Moderate Democrats and Women. That means he keeps the coalition that Reagan formed, which made the Big Tent, and he adds a constituency that Reagan never added in women.

Republicans need to run on their strength, which has deserted them because of the ports issue and Iraq, security. Who wins on that one?

The other factor is that even though the harder right parts of the GOP see the President as a damned RINO, the nation perceives him as extremely Conservative. The GOP will do well to consider that and put forth a moderate candidate who will be able to win. I have a feeling that any of the three frontrunners would tend to be rather Conservative. I doubt that abortions will be performed in the West Wing, that homosexuals will be taking taking vows in the Rose Garden prior to honeymooning in the Lincoln bedroom. Nor can either of the do any worse than the last Congress, controlled by the GOP did with regard to illegal aliens.

None of these three are inane idiots, and will govern from a Centrist/Right frame.


Jeff
Oh, by all means, Jeff, let's just elect a RINO again! Boy, oh boy, that's intelligent. All the front-runners are new world order globalist sell-outs.

Good 'ol Rudy is anti-gun and pro open borders. You really like him do you, Jeff?

We have been voting for this same type of scum for a long time. That is how we got all this socialism. We don't need more of the same. I myself choose to vote for someone who has shown through years of action that he stands up for the Constitution and our liberty. Not some of the time; ALL of the time.

Liberty
Thanks for the links. Yes. I'm familiar with this. I left out the "completely". I agree some of this is going on, has been for years; there are some problems with the concept though. Knowing human kind, the bad guys will destroy each other. More than one will want to be the leader. Then it gets into the Ultimate bad guy being the leader. Then you get the radicals who think the 9/11 tower hits, especially the pentagon hit, were part of the one world plot, - and I tune out to keep sane. It makes me nuts.

Lots of evil men, sure. I buy that. And I've heard my grandfather talk about the 7 men in the backroom - the ones who rule the world.

But, what can we do about it? I haven't a clue. I flailed and fought the school system to get one child out 30 minutes early one time a week to take ballet and wound up pulling her OUT of school to homeschool - after being patronized, then threatened. And this is a Good school! I am her mother. I fully believe the publik indokrination system is the lynch pin of "their" global socialist agenda. Whomever "they" may be.

One of the best ways to combat darkness is to shine a light which is what you are doing. I fear for my children and grandchildren's future, but, ultimately trust God. This is more than a man vs. man battle. It is a spiritual battle. Good vs. evil. That is why there is no place or time to stop fighting. How to fight is the question.

In our choice of a Presidential Candidate, if we have enough sanity as a nation to elect a strong constitutional leader, we may be able to continue a bit longer. Which leader? Ron Paul? Duncan Hunter? Who is strong constitutionally, that can also beat the lefties? 50% of voters voted for Kerry. Boggles the mind.

HUNTER 2008
For a review of his speech at CPAC look here:

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=23212

LadyRebel
I am a strong supporter of Ron Paul and have been for well over 20 years. I support him because I have listened to his talk and watched him vote the same way. He is without question the strongest advocate of the Constitution and limited government in Washington, D.C. He actually has a fairly large following that cuts across party lines. He is a rare gem. I can honestly tell you that I know of no one that has more integrity than this man. Did you know that he consistently votes against salary increases for the House and has turned down his government pension? This man is not "owned" by anyone and he does not sell out.

http://www.myspace.com/congressmanronpaul

Voting record:
http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BC031929

An archive of his articles:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

Charon
You said, "If we don’t get this right, we are going to wake up one morning very soon in a country we can no longer recognize in any way, shape, or form. There are elements, both foreign and domestic, that are trying to tear this country to pieces."

None of the mainstream media endorsed candidates that you listed will do this. That is why they are endorsed. We didn't get where we are today by accident. Who was it that said, "nothing in politics happens by accident".

There are others running that do in fact have some or all of the qualities we need. In my opinion, those are Paul, Tancredo and possibly, Hunter. Although I am concerned about Hunter's sponsorship of the Military Commissions Act.

Regardless, one man is not going to be able to do it all by himself. We are ALL going to have to get involved in our state and local governments to be able to start turning this whole thing around. We have sat idly by watching this happen for far too long. It's time for us to stand up and remember the government belongs to US, not the other way around.

Liberty & Virginia Patriot
Both of these guys look pretty good to me - especially Paul. The BIG question is will either of them appeal to enough of the neutral zone, where elections are actually decided, to win a national nomination and election? We know the left is going to be pulling out all stops at this juncture of the hijacking of America. They can see the light at the end of the tunnel after 40 years of planning. Let's make sure that light is a very powerful locomotive.

Liberty: BTW - I've been reading the sites you posted, Liberty, and while they make me positively ill, I have a renewed dedication to fight this spiritual battle. Thanks. I could tell you stories from my personal life that would curl your hair.

baseballdoc
posted, "Newt would have to overcome past mistakes and learn how to connect with the common man."

But Doc, the common man is so . . . common! Not to mention boring. And rarely votes anyway.

David Mac

.....I consider myself a common man and I have been voting since JFK/Nixon in 1960 ...

.....I disavowed my Democrat roots during Vietnam and have voted Republican ever since because the GOP leans Conservative while the DEMs lean toward Socialism ...

.....I like Newt and if I had the power of a King maker I would make him the President but he does not seem to be actively seeking the nomination and if he waits too long I think he will be unelectable ...

.....The Clinton attack machine will dredge up all the "Gingrich who stole Christmas" crappola and the Democrats will be energized to come out to vote against him ...he is too polarizing ...

.....The way I see it the Republican race is down to Giuliani or Romney ...whichever one gets the nomination will get my vote because I would vote for the Devil himself to keep a Democrat out of the White House ...

.....There will be two ...maybe three openings on the Supreme Court in the next eight years ...try to imagine the type of judges that would be appointed by Hillary or Obama .....COLOSSUS

baseballdoc
Doc, I was being facetious about the "common man". I'm happy to hear that you are a common man. You're one of the best posters on TH.com.

The left insists that Republicans aren't for the "common man" and are only concerned for the corporate good. In practice, of course, the left doesn't care about the "common man" any more than Joe Stalin or Pol Pot did.

The left is touting McCain as the Republican candidate. Why? Because McCain is a RINO and will shut down many Republican voters. The two-pronged attack by the left during the 2006 mid-terms consisted of:

1. Run leftist candidates as "conservative" Democrats, and

2. Suppress the Republican vote by keeping RINO's in the public eye (that was the MSM's job). Many conservative TH.com posters stated they wouldn't vote in the election because of the RINO's existence and wanted to "teach the RINO's a lesson".

Slick Willie ran in 1992 as a "New Democrat" who was for tax cuts and at the same time villified G.H.W. Bush as a lying Republican who RAISED taxes. It worked. The Dems are trying a similar strategy for 2008.

Newt, Tancredo, Hunter, (even Romney!), but never, EVER McCain or Guiliani.

What's Bush's Score?
Here's an exercise for you: measure George W Bush on your scale and try to figure out what went wrong. I remember reading somewhere, early on, the opinion of one voter: "I voted for Bush because he seemed like a guy I would like to have a beer with"---the likeability factor trumped the experience/knowledge factor. Two days before he was elected President of the United States, Bush revealed in a speech that he didn't know Social Security is a federal program. He had never been outside the United States. And since being elected, he has repeatedly amazed the public both at home and abroad not only with his utter ignorance of issues but his utter lack of curiosity about issues. Being, to put this as nicely as I can, naive, he has been easily manipulated by others, leading to major tragedy (see: Iraq, Katrina). The public has gradually been finding out about the man behind the curtain with the result that Bush's ratings are now somewhere under the toilet. So, back to your Presidential Measuring Stick: what went wrong?


Romney's a better candidate to capture
the votes of not only Conservatives & pro-life Christians, but also Independents and moderate Democrats.

On Dec. 23rd (on a TH article) "Bookie" posted:

"No one on the American political scene has a resume that approaches Romney's. He is clean as a hounds tooth, no skeltons in his closet. Stelar academic history, extremely successful in both the private and public sector. He has years of executive experience. He is articulate and can handle the media as well as anybody. As far as I'm concerned he's the total package. As far as conservative voters go he is as close to perfect as you will find."

Romney's exec. experience includes the private sector (running his own capital markets firm), turning around the 2002 Winter Olympics from disaster to profit, and as Gov of liberal Massachusetts putting their budget into the 'black' (after huge deficits).

Also, Mitt Romney is strong on protecting our Nation (and its borders). A March 2nd TH article lists some recent statements by Romney, including:

"I do not believe amnesty is the right course for the 11 or 12 million illegal immigrants who are living here. It didn't work in the 1980s. It's not going to work in the 2000s either." The article also noted that "Romney said he favors securing the U.S.-Mexico border with a fence and wants to institute an employment verification system through high-tech identification cards."

Mitt Romney favors constitutional amendments to protect the definition of marriage as being between one man and one woman. He is also supported by evangelical Christians, as shown at http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org.

The criteria seems suspect to me
Interesting analysis from Patrick Ruffini. But this seemed to me to be one of those analyses where the author starts with the result he wants and then proceeds backward to justify his result. Was Nixon a warmer, more personable candidate than Humphrey? Jimmy Carter won in 1976 even though he was first elected as Georgia governor outside the "14 year rule." And George H.W. Bush was first elected to Congress 20 years before he became president. So much for that ironclad rule.

Any analysis that ignores the economy and the Iraq war is meaningless in my view. Here's my analysis. If the economy is strong and the Iraq war is going markedly better, the Republican candidate wins. If not, on either matter, the Democrat wins.

Lydia, what "racist god" would that be?
Mitt Romney, as do all members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, worships our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ--as the name of the church would indicate to any thinking person.

Do you believe that Jesus Christ (the literal Son of God the Father) who died that ALL might live-- is racist?

rudy??
Untrustworthy, betrays his family, supports killing of children, promotes gat marriage, never served a day in uniform....a sorry picture of the caricature of a rockefeller republican trying to appear manly!
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