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Tuesday, March 17, 2009
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Of Patriots and Assassins
by Pat Buchanan
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During Nixon's historic trip to China in 1972, his interpreter and I, free for a few hours, conscripted a driver to take us on a tour of Beijing. Somewhere in my files are photos from that day we toured the grim city of Chairman Mao in the time of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution.

The interpreter: Charles Freeman -- the same Charles Freeman Adm. Dennis Blair chose to chair the National Intelligence Council that prepares National Intelligence Estimates on critical national security issues such as Iran's nuclear program.

Educated at Yale and Harvard Law, Freeman has served his country in Delhi, Taipei, Bangkok and Beijing. He was Ronald Reagan's deputy assistant secretary of state for Africa and Bill Clinton's assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs. George Bush I named him ambassador to Saudi Arabia. Freeman was our man in Riyadh when Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf and 500,000 U.S. troops arrived to evict the army of Saddam Hussein from Kuwait.

In 1997, Freeman succeeded George McGovern as president of the Middle East Policy Council -- and he began to speak out.

He opposed the bombing of Serbia and said aloud what few privately deny: Reflexive support for Israel's repression of the Palestinian people is high among the reasons America is no longer seen as a beacon of liberation in the Arab and Muslim world.

Freeman echoed the Obama of yesterday, who bravely blurted, "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people."

At MEPC, however, Freeman committed a great crime. He published "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" by Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, which went onto the New York Times best-seller list -- and put Freeman on AIPAC's enemies list.

Hence, when his name surfaced as Blair's choice to chair the NIC, the Israel Firsters went berserk, with Steven Rosen declaring him to be a "textbook case of the old-line Arabism" that infected the Department of State when Gen. George Marshall was secretary.

And who is Rosen?

A former fixture at AIPAC, Rosen faces imminent federal criminal prosecution under the Espionage Act for transferring top-secret Pentagon documents to the Israeli Embassy. Rosen's accomplice, Larry Franklin, is serving a 12-year sentence.

Picking up the Rosen dog whistle, the neocommentariat came howling. To Gabriel Schoenfeld, late of Commentary, Freeman is a "China coddling Israel basher." Tom Piatak of Chronicles found no fewer than five blogs from National Review Online, in two hours, savaging Freemen, two by Jonah Goldberg and two by Michael Rubin.

Rich Lowry of NR calls Freeman "Chas of Arabia," a diplomat of "odious" views, a "lap dog" and "blinkered ideologue" who enjoys "pandering to and making excuses for the world's dictators and terrorists."

To The New Republic's Jonathan Chait, Freeman is a "fanatic." To Jeffrey Goldberg of Atlantic, formerly of the Israeli Army, Chait's piece was dead on. To TNR ex-publisher Marty Peretz, Freeman is a "bought man." To Michael Goldfarb of The Weekly Standard, Freeman is a "shill for the Saudis," who defends "corrupt Arab states that foment and support terror."

Freeman is denounced as a shill of Saudi Arabia -- by people who have spent careers shilling for the Israeli lobby and Likud.

Within this smear bund (Murray Rothbard's phrase), who has given America a tenth of the patriotic service and loyalty of Chas Freeman?

What were the specific charges? That, in private life, Freeman advised a Chinese company. Would the Israel Firsters have used that argument against Al Haig or Henry Kissinger?

Saudi contributions to MEPC should disqualify Freeman, they say. But what did they say when Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, David Wurmser and the rest with inextricable ties to Israel stove-piped to the press the cherry-picked War Party propaganda lies about a "Prague connection" between Mohammed Atta and Iraqi intelligence, yellow cake from Niger, Saddam and al-Qaida, Saddam and the anthrax attacks, "mushroom clouds," "aluminum tubes" and WMD?

Who among them questioned State's decision to hand the Iran portfolio to Dennis Ross of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a creation and front of AIPAC?

Realizing the assaults would not end, Freeman last week withdrew, saying, "I do not believe the National Intelligence Council could function effectively while its chair was under constant attack by unscrupulous people with a passionate attachment to the views of a political faction of a foreign country."

The foreign country is Israel; the political faction Likud.

Nor did Freeman shrink at naming the source of the noxious campaign of slander against him.

"The tactics of the Israel lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation, the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods and an utter disregard for the truth."

"A lobby," Steve Rosen confided in an AIPAC internal memo, "is like a night flower; it thrives in the dark and dies in the sun."

Yes, and long ago, Al Smith addressed the age-old problem of the Rosens within: "The best way to kill anything un-American is to drag it out into the open, because anything un-American cannot live in the sunlight."

Well done, Ambassador Freeman.

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What can one do? We keep hearing these
statements of retribution against the US for our position on Israel. No doubt it is true. We didn't start the hatred. It is centuries old. There is absolutely no quitting Israel. Everyone knows that. So what to do? After the way our country has been run the last decade nothing we do is surprising.

We do believe the electorate is better informed than ever and perhaps that is where the sun will shine again.

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Screw AIPAC
"What were the specific charges? That, in private life, Freeman advised a Chinese company. Would the Israel Firsters have used that argument against Al Haig or Henry Kissinger?"

Or for that matter, against the Wall Street Journal editorial page where some of Freeman's worst critics praise "constructive engagement" to China to no end.

Pat's right. The Israeli tail through its fifth column of traitors in AIPAC must be made to stop wagging the American dog.

"A lobby," Steve Rosen confided in an AIPAC internal memo, "is like a night flower; it thrives in the dark and dies in the sun."

Rosen should know all about this, as it pertains to treason and conspiracy. At the very least, AIPAC should be made to register as a foreign lobby for Israel.

Five stars.

Pat, you are just "eaten up" with it...
Pat, I have admired you and your positions on many issues for many years. I even once hoped that you might become president. You are an intelligent and well-spoken man. HOWEVER, your deep-seated hatred of Israel has always baffled me. You remind me of the rich young ruler who came to Jesus with the intention of becoming a disciple, only to turn away because he could not give up his wealth. You have so much going for you, but your one odious attribute, anti-semitism, is a deal breaker.

I have to wonder how you can turn your back on God's chosen people and, instead, champion a race who are the most destructive, detestable force of inhumanity ever seen by mankind, the Arabs ( and other Muslims ).

Pat, you truly are an enigma.

What A Guy!
And to place Pat's outrage in proper perspective, let's never forget his immortal characterization of Waffen SS members buried at Bitburg as "victims."

The Chinese
Hey Pat isn't that the same Charles Freeman who sided with the Chinese in their killing the student protesters at tiananmen square? Well n'uff said.

Israel...
Well, Pat, I suppose you won't be surprised that I, as a Noahide, find your logic reprehensible, your facts questionable, and disagree with your flattering remarks concerning Freeman.

An Israeli Shill,
Turtle

Pat
And Pat he is also the same Freeman that is very very very pro-Beijing. He may have "served" in Taipei, but he is no longer on Taipei's side. He has said among other things:

"...that Americans are too ignorant of Chinese history.." well this is true, but Americans are ignorant of everyone's history including their own so why should China be any different? He has stated that China is not a threat to the US and the US should stop treating it as such). True, but it is a threat to Taiwan and the Philippines and various other states with claims in the SOuth China Sea. And stated that US criticism of China is realted to America's Humanitarian-Industrial Complex.

Freeman is a super "panda hugger." Pat does the State Department term "gone native" mean anything to you? Freeman went native years ago. Thank whomever you wish he'll have no connection to US intelligence or any thing else connected to the US government.

He blamed US policies for 9/11. He's right on Israel and Iraq. A broken clock is right twice a day too. No doubt his balanced view to the Israeli-Arab conflict cost him his job, but he should have been thrown over because of his views on China. If the Israel lobby got him--good. I don't care who killed the enemy as long as he is dead.

Since it is said he is fluent in Mandarin, I have a phrase for Freeman. "Gan Ni Lao Mu" on you and all your line and that goes for you too, Pat! I knew where you were going once I read the first line "During Nixon's historic trip to China in 1972, his interpreter and I..."




Good call, Pat...
... on the Israel "Victimology" smear lobby. Still, Freeman has some major 'splaining to do on kissing up to China.

(BTW, don't you hate it, on TownHall, when you type a good sentence, only to find it didn't "Take" due to TH stuffing the bandwidth with popups and the news feed at the bottom?)


Hosquatch
Pat has more than just anti-Semitism. He is racist (if not why care what race immigrants are--Pat isn't against immigration, just non-white immigration), supports idiotic trade policies that have been proven to have failed in the past, supports "fotress America" isolationsim which has also been proven to have failed and seems to have a deep admiration for Hitler and blames America for Russia's recent aggressive moves.

What Pat is is a paelo-Republican from the 1930s. He should be placed in glass in a museum some place next to a Pierce Arrow with "the Gold Digger Song (We're in the Money)" playing in the background.

The paelo-Republicans disliked Jews too and were favorable toward Hitler until 1941. Pat's political movement also has the same name as the isolationists from the 1930s--America First, rather telling isn't it?

Freeman should change his mind
"I do not believe the National Intelligence Council could function effectively while its chair was under constant attack by unscrupulous people with a passionate attachment to the views of a political faction of a foreign country."
I can think of no better reason for him to pursue the position. Why wilt in the face of attack?

I'll believe Chris Nelson of the
Nelson Report before I believe the professional liars of AIPAC over this charge regarding China:

“Unscrupulous opponents have given sections of the memo to gullible commentators with the lie…no other word for it…that it is Freeman talking for himself, with his personal views and analysis of Chinese government actions in 1989.

“In fact, as any reputable China person could have told the non-expert commentators, the Freeman memo, on a now-defunct China listserve, was Chas’s very accurate summation of CHINESE government analysis of what happened, why, and what lessons should be drawn from it.

“And as the conclusion of the memo makes clear, Freeman was personally heart-broken with the policies implemented, and the deaths, possibly in the many thousands, which ensued.”

http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=235

Leave it to the professional liars of AIPAC and the media to take this out of context for Israel's short term benefit.

RW
Nothing to explain. He is pro-Beijing. He went native. End of story and he has been pro-China for decades. In some cases, his views on China are correct, but in other cases, his views are no different than those inside Zhongnanhai. Perhaps he should apply for a job there instead?

The fact that the Israel lobby killed him off. Well, don't look a gift kill in the mouth.

Views
"...unscrupulous people with a passionate attachment to the views of a political faction of a foreign country."

This seems to me to describe Freeman, was he talking about himself? Since his views are pretty much the same as those working inside Zhongnanhai. That political faction being the CCP and that country being the PRC.



Buchanan is correct.
More Americans were killed by Israelis during the attack on the s.s. Liberty than died at the hands of the Chinese at tienanmen square.

Our bonds are purchased at the behest of the Chinese government, along with the governments of other nations.

Since we have been operating recently under huge deficits begun by Bush 43, it is fair to say these bonds helped to finance an array of U.S. government actions, including the disastrous Iraq war.

So the outrage over tienanmen is not so great as to have us eschew Chinese money, or that we tax ourselves whatever it takes to run our government.

Buchanan is correct.

Faux righties, with their snouts deeply immersed in the neocon trough, squeal like pigs on the noxious filth, oblivious to the admonitions of the Father Of Our Nation who exhorted us, in his "Farewell Address To The American People", to be wary of forming unnatural attachments to peoples and nations, such that they blind us to our own interests(which is exactly what our relationship is with Israel).

Netanyahu, Peres, Barak, all exhorted the Bush administration to go to war in Iraq.

Israeli shills such as Perle, Wolfowitz, Wumser, helped to sell an ignorant G.W. Bush on the war, although to be fair Bush had already made up his mind on Iraq by the time he was sworn in back in 2001.

I suspect they had been "advising" him well before he became president.

Good site:

http://www.lrb.co.uk.v28/n06/mear01_html


Akagi
Instead of posting the same lies about Pat as you did at 9:56, why don't you back them up for a change? You use this same post everytime a column by Pat goes up here.

rdk
I wish Freeman had done so as well. The Israeli lobby is one of the biggest problems confronting the US today due to the way it is able to corrupt the political process through the means of bribes (campaign contributions by surrogates) and intimidation.

What is particularly disgusting about this affair is that it was Steve Rosen, a person undergoing trial right now for passing secrets to Israel who was the pointman for this latest smear by the smearbund. Talk about an obvious conflict of interest that is overlooked by the media and covered up by the shills.

p.s.
The site I cited at the end of my rant of 10:16 may not be available, but the article can probably be accessed by googling: John Mearsheimer, Stephen Walt, 'The Israel Lobby', dated 23 March 2006.

Speaking of Shills...
There are some shills alright! How about the whole democrat party? I'm glad we ousted Freeman and I hope the other dubious appointee by Blair is ousted too. This gang of rivals is only rivaling those who are bent on the greedoms, not the freedoms of our Republic. Barb #2
God bless and save America and God protect and save Israel!!

jerabaub
This link works for the Mearsheimer and Walt article.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

Isn't it a shame when the Israeli lobby has so much power that it can get this article unpublished here and only in Britain does it get published.

Funny to see all these folks so upset over "human rights" abuses at Tiananmen Square and totally unconcerned about those the Israelis commit on a regular basis in the occupied territories.

Ryan
Freeman's support for China go far beyond just 6-4, but every major Chinese policy from its military buildup, its human rights--does the phrase Humanitarian-Inustrial Complex ring a bell.

See his article from 2007.

http://www.theglobalist.com/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=6179

Sorry, Ryan, he is not just an apologist for 6-4, but the entire regime. He is right on some points, but overall, he is a pro-China panda hugger and one the US doesn't need as a key voice in regards to US intelligence.




Pat's INSANE AGAIN!
Here's all you need to know about Pat's latest screed against Israel ... "Reflexive support for Israel's repression of the Palestinian people is high among the reasons America is no longer seen as a beacon of liberation in the Arab and Muslim world."

"Repression"? That must be a new world record in idiotic statements and can ONLY be accounted for by Pat's long hatred of the Jews! Israel ONLY wants to be left alone in peace ... the Palestinians can't successfully run their own affairs ... it's so obvious even the INSANE can recognize it ... except for Buchanan, who, I guess, would want to help the Arabs slaughter the Jews! Sickening!

Ryan
Go back and read his columns. He laments the influx of non-white immigrants. Now if he was just against immigrants, you could say he was just a garden variety xenophobe, but he's not--he's worse--he is at best a bigot and at worst a racist.

He supports the same failed polices of the 1930s--such as Smoot-Hawley and US isolationism. He blames the US for Russia's reactions in Georgia and elsewhere and he seems to be an apoligist for Hilter--saying Hitler wanted only the Polish Corridor and the UK and France declaring war on Germany was needless as Hitler had legitimate claims to the corridor. Pat has said these things in his columns here on TH--go back and read them.

You want to kiss Pat's feet--fine--but don't ignore the facts that look you back in the face--and that face is an anti-Semite, bigot (if not racist) paleo-Republican for the 1930s. Perhaps you like Pat because you and him are ideological bothers, if so, not my problem.


Akagi
Why should this bother you? After all, China is one of our biggest traders, that should appeal to your love of "free" trade and on top of it, China is the banker to America. It would be bad form to anger the folks you expect to buy up all this fiat money the govt. wants. Frankly, I hope the Chinese do the US a favor and say "no" to buying this crap. The empire needs to go and that means over commitments to nations like Israel and the $3 billion dollar tribute we pay them ends. Let Madoff give them the money.

"He is right on some points, but overall, he is a pro-China panda hugger and one the US doesn't need as a key voice in regards to US intelligence."

Taking this at face value, on the other hand it is perfectly acceptable to have people in an administration who have very close ties to the Israels in intelligence positions like Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, I take it?

Palestinian Suffering
Sixty years ago there were no Palestinians. Those people were Jordanians or Egyptians. But, the people are so disagreeable that no other country wants them. It is obvious that the Palestinians themselves are largely the source of their own problems. Rival factions routinely kill each other. They can't negotiate with Israel effectively because they do not accept Israel's right to exist. Around the entire world Muslims cannot get along with people in close contact with them, and the Palestinians are Muslims on steroids. Jews are anti-social but don't typically attack everyone near them. It appears to me that the Palestinians and the Isrealis are living in the same environment where Israel is an economic success while the Palestinians are a basket case. The Palestinians are not trying to create anything but chaos.

Akagi
I don't need to re-read his colunms nor his books again. I know what he says. On the other hand, I've seen you take him out of context and lie about him, but I understand people like you and your pathological hatred for Buchanan. You can't argue with him, only attempt to smear him and the only thing you accomplish is to cover yourself with what you have thrown.

Ryan
As you know, I lament the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis in the occupied territories as liken it to the treatment blacks and coloreds received from the Nationalists in South Africa during Apartheid.

But look at Freeman's comments on Tibet where Chinese acts are nothing short of Genocide or in Xinjiang as far as that goes and on and on. He gives a pass on the Draconian Chinese population control. Must I note that Taiwan is more densely packed, has less arable land and has never had a need for forced abortions and a one-child policy. Most Taiwanese are non-Christians but Taiwan doesn't feel the need to suppress Christians or the Falun Gong. Three of the presidents of Taiwan have been Christian--Chiang Kai-shek, Chiang Ching Kuo and Lee Teng Hui. Think the CCP would name as president a Christian?

Freeman is nothing but a pro-Beijing stooge.

Ryan
I am no fan of Israel--so no. I don't mind trade with China so much. After all, Taiwan sends billions across the Strait each year--in 2007 nearly 70 billion worth (dollars not NT).

I don't take PAt out of context at all. You want to be a paleo-Republican fine, but don't then try to cover your views.

Shells
Where is Shells, our resident Israel-firster when you need her?




Buchanan
If Jew hating didn't exist, Buchanan would have invented it. He has been doing it for years, and always reverts back to it when he runs out of things to say. Buchanan, like other Jew haters, is a coward. He moderates his views when he is on MSNBC (jolly old Patty), but then goes full throttle in his columns. The boy is a one trick pony. Fortunately, one day he will die. Unfortunately, Jew hating will not, nor will all the other bigotry Buchanan represents go with him. His views are distorted, rabid, and vindictive. For example, here is a man who rails against the government and the media, but has spent his entire adult life working (and thereby receiving income from) the government and media. Buchanan couldn't run a business, operate a machine, or do manual labor. In short, he is blow hard. Those of you who rally around him should beware. He is a false prophet.

James L
"Sixty years ago there were no Palestinians."

There were no Israelis either prior to 1947 and no Americans prior to independence either. No East Timorese before 1999, no Malaysians before 1957, Indonesias before 1949 and on and on. So?

"Around the entire world Muslims cannot get along with people in close contact with them."

Really? Is that the case with Malaysia? Have they attacked the Christian-majority nation of Singapore lately? Made moves on Australia?

"Jews are anti-social but don't typically attack everyone near them."

Nor do Muslims.

You might note that the PLO was made of of mostly Arab socialists who weren't religious at all--some factions in the PLO such as the PFLP were Marxist.

"It appears to me that the Palestinians and the Isrealis are living in the same environment where Israel is an economic success while the Palestinians are a basket case. The Palestinians are not trying to create anything but chaos."

After getting the best land and billions in US aid--any wonder? You try living in a refugee camp in Gaza and see how you feel toward Israel.




sides
Buchanan's weakness is not in finding with Israel, but in finding cause with Arabs.
Whatever virtues Palastinians once had are irreversibly gone in the culture of Arafat.

Barbara
Freeman is an equal opportunity hack. Worked for LBJ as a FSO in the 60s, was Nixon's chief interpreter when Nixon went to China in 1972 with Pat in tow. Then back to Taiwan under Nixon and Ford in the mid-1970s, then to Beijing and Bangkok. Was Asst. SOS for Reagan for African Affairs and Ambassador to Saudi Arabia under Bush 41. Under Clinton he was Assistant Secretary of Defense. He left government "service" and went into the private sector. One of which was to serve on the China National Off Shore Oil Corporation (Zhonggou Haiyang Shiyou Zonggongsi). One of China's national oil companies. So we can see how his Chinese support fits, eh?

He also became head of the Middle East Policy Council which is heavily supported by the Saudis. I wonder if Ryan and his pal Pat support being a shill for the Saudis and Chinese?






The Main Palestinian Problem
Most people blame Israel. Others blame the U.S. But the REAL Palestinian problem are themselves and the other Arab nations. The Palestinians are decendents of Arabs who were run out of everywhere else in the world. The other Arabs don't want to have anything to do with them. The Palestinians themselves cause most of their own problems such as the recent Gaza affair. The other Arabs like to have Palesinians in the shape they are in simply because it causes tears in the eyes of all the people we used to call goody-two-shoes ... i.e., liberals. So they won't support them in financial or political matters and they won't allow them back into their countries.

There are things I don't like about Israel. On the other hand there are a LOT of things I don't like about Palestinians. And I can't blame Israel for defending themselves. Frankly I think they are more careful than I would be in a similar situation.

Akagi
We agree more than we disagree, I suspect. I question the "racist" view of Pat's immigration stands (if he's demanded that we close the door to Asians and Africans, it's news to me). On protectionism, Pat's definitely out to lunch, though.
Oh, and, you're right -- where IS Shells? This thread won't be complete until she shows up and starts flinging poo.


Mr. Hate the Jews
Sorry Buchanan, but it wasn't Israelis that attacked us numerous times, it was Muslim fanatics. All the Jews ask for is peace and all they get from the Muslim world is war.

If the Arab/Muslim world actually made peace with Israel, they would all benefit. Why should our nation support the corrupt Muslim world? Let's drill for our own oil and let these fanatics who are even now indoctrinating Arab students here in America go to H---!


Akagi
The beginning of the Palestinian "problem" of last century can be traced directly to the Balfour declaration of 1919.

Since "Palestine" had been wrestled from the Ottoman empire who had ruled it for centuries the British I think looked at it as a escape valve.

Perhaps posters here do not recognize that"Palestine" covered a lot of territory and people on the 1919 map.


RW
Plenty of Pat columns attacking non-white immigration (he even blames it on the GOP losses).


Generally Speaking
What Israelis consider right and proper involves the survival of these United States
as a free and independent republic.

What Palestinians think right and proper involves the extinguishing of these United States.

Therefore I am supposed to condemn the Israelis
and support the Palestinians? What part of "Go To Hell" do you not understand?

As far as immigration goes, back in 1992 Pat demonstrated that he did not know, nor care to learn, the difference between a Mejicano and a Tejano. Doesn't look like he has improved
any since then.

BTW Akaqi: What I said about Israel also goes for Taiwan. In contrast the PRC wants a hegemony that would make the USA subservient.
Therefore, I will be with you on Taiwan.

That means that when I rule it advisable to invade Lower Slobbovia, you get to quit annoying me.

Brilliant!!
Amazing. Standing Ovation!! Steve Rosen a man about to go on trial for treason against the United States leads the charge against a man who has spent his life working for the United States. Simply amazing.

Who's Afraid of the Israel Lobby?? Everyone!!

http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=11719

Do not forget who you are --they won't
Americans put America first, we don't make excuses for other countries! No matter how friendly they are, no matter how well we may see eye to eye they are NOT Americans. Israeli or Palestinian-it should not matter because they do not share our points of view or our national interests. We forgot this and it has cost us dearly, sadly it still does.

Let them kill each other, why should it matter to us? I have found that people who are so sympathetic to these countries consider themselves "citizens of the world", which is just another name for traitor.

Does Israel have strategic importance?

Regardless of your views regarding Israel, the truth is this. Israel is the only thing keeping Arab anger from its full expression towards the rest of the world. There main focus is the elimination of Israel and all Jews! Always has been, always will be so long as Israel exists, or there are Jews in this world. Over 4 thousand years of documented history on this ugly little truth!

Profits from Arab Oil empowers those nations to propagate and expand their only other big export. Religious Hatred and global conquest. To talk about the atrocities of Israel regarding the Palestinians is to ignore the reality that Israel only has two other options, cease to exist, or kill all the Palestinians!
How do you live with neighbors who are willing to kill themselves, their children, and their way of life just to kill a few of you?
Lasting peace is a myth in the Middle East! Unless of course you kill all the Jews and all the Arabs! Arabs will simply transfer their anger outward towards the rest of the non-Arab world, just as it has since pre-biblical times! Before Oil, they could not afford to force their religious hatred much past their own borders.

Nobody in their right minds would support killing all the Jews, and nobody would support killing all the Arabs either so let's get real and support Israel at least until we find a way to stop needing Arab oil!

Blind support is wrong, but we need to realize what we are supporting is not Israel, but our own way of life.

Pat, I would think you would understand that!

Bad day for AIPAC
"EXCLUSIVE: Israel's national security aide barred from U.S.

Former Israeli spy linked to Pentagon leak
Eli Lake
Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Uzi Arad, who is expected to serve as national security adviser in the next Israeli government, has been barred from entering the United States for nearly two years on the grounds that he is an intelligence risk.

Mr. Arad, a former member and director of intelligence for the Mossad, Israel's spy service, is mentioned in the indictment of Lawrence Franklin, a former Pentagon analyst who pleaded guilty in 2005 to providing classified information about Iran in a conversation with two employees of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/17/israels-nationa l-security-aide-barred-from-us/

Good.

Of course, Gary Rosen, the smearbundist behind the Freeman lie, is a part of the Franklin spy affair.

All you "sayanim" out there will have to make other arrangements.

Steve
How does supporting the building of settlements on Arab land in a sea of Arabs further US interests and the American way of life?


Pat is a particularly vicious
anti-Semite. And the fact that Freeman doesn't think that the communist Chinese were tough enough at Tianneman Square shows what a crack pot Pat is. I guess he is angry because his friend, Demjanjuk, has finally been charged with thousands of deaths by the Germans, Demjanjuk being the concentration camp guard that Buchanan is so fond of.

John
Most people that are so supportive of Israel don't see themselves as citizens of the world? Does Hannity? He was basically orgasmic over the victory of Benjamin Netanyahu. He was totally 100% a Bibi win. Don't you think it pretty unseemly for someone that has no connection to Israel to be getting involved in another country's election? What if some Labor-leaning talk show host had supported Obama over McCain?

Traitors? What enemy are they giving comfort too--absorbing a little too much language erosion for Skeletor (Ann Coulter)?

"Let them kill each other, why should it matter to us?"

Because sooner or later, as often is the case, they start to kill you too. There is also the little matter of the US signing on to treaties that obligate it to stop genocide too.

Excellent article Pat
You are once again 100% correct. Israel's interests are not the same as America's interests. The extremist in Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians from the occupied territories. That is obvious to any observer of region . Those comments who say that Pat is anti-Israel are wrong ! Pat is pro American. America had no interest in invading Iraq. Israel did ! America has no interest in attacking Iran. Israel says that it does. I do not care what is good for Israel. I care what is good for America and so does Pat.

Alice, . . .
When you cannot convince someone by rationality and reason, you pull out the old canard of "antisemitism".
Demjanjuk was found INNOCENT by no less than the Israeli court system. It seems that jews outside Israel are looking for vengeance and don't care if they have "the right guy". Thus the reason for trying Demjanjuk in France.
Alice, you might be interested to know that there is much more spirited discussion and dissenting opinion concerning the Palestinians, borders and political situation within Israel that the rest of the world news media does not cover. The zionist point of view is the only one that has any influence in the halls of the U S government.
Am I an "anti-semite" for pointing out the TRUTH?

Alice
Freeman's point in regards to Tiananmen was the Politburo should have acted faster to keep the situation from getting out of control and then it would have been easier to control and less people killed on and on. You can disagree with this or not, but his point wasn't that China should have acted harsher on 6/4 but that China should have stopped this on April 14 or April 15 after Hu's death and not waited until June 4.

There are other more problematic areas in his Chinese resume--he serving on the board of a state-owned Chinese oil company, his support or acceptence of Chinese acts in Tibet and his insistence that Taiwan is part of China a "greater" China.

Of course, to some Pat lovers like Ryan--the CWF post is a fraud spread by Jewish spies or some other globalist cabal of Jews.

Joseph
"You are once again 100% correct. Israel's interests are not the same as America's interests."

Nor is China's and what you get with Freeman is a pro-Beijing stooge. The fact that it was his Middle East opinions that got the pro-Israeli lobby all upset and got him killed off is besides the point. Freeman would have been a Chinese plant inside the highest circles of the US intelligence community--not unlike the pro-Maoists at State that were purged by McCarthy in the 1950s.

Conservatives usually oppose liberals and applaud their downfall. Anyone who is going to replace George McGovern--liberal, anti-Vietnam war, got destroyed in 1972---remember him?--on anything is proof he is not on your side.

But Pat is so blind in his hate for Jews he can't see this.


tj
And why would Pat support someone who is as left as McGovern, a person that was on the board of a PRC-owned oil company, backs Chinese acts in Tibet and supports Chinese claims on Taiwan--and since Chas is such an expert on China, he knows does he not that for most of Chinese history Taiwan was unknown to China, Chinese settlement of Taiwan didn't begin until the 17th century, even when the Qing got control of Taiwan it only controlled a sliver of the west coast and most of Taiwan was out of its control. Japan only renounced its claims on Taiwan, it did not transfer title as it were to China--US and UK actions at Cairo in 1943 were gross violations of internatioal law. So basically, a Chinese regime occupied the whole of Taiwan for some 3 years and 11 months--from October 25, 1945 until October 1, 1949. Yet he supports Chinese claims on Taiwan?

Are Pat and you Pat fans comfortable with a Chinese plant inside the US intel community?


Where is MY COMMENT on Buchanan?
I just attempted to post re: Buchanan and VOILA!, it Vanished in Cyber-Space.
Is there a Problem with Identifying WHO and WHAT Patrick Buchanan is?
I sincerely hope that a Patriotic Site such as this would ALLOW UNCENSORED commentary to threads by registered users.
So, Once more:
1) Buchanan is a Life-Long Anti-Semite raised by an American Supporter of Hitler.
2) Contrary to America's Interests, Buchanan is in the "Amen Choir" for America's Islamist Enemies due to a mutuality of Anti-Semitism with them.
3)Buchanan is a Fascist disguised as a Conservative .

Response to Eu Wei @ 14:07
Reading it as multichoice test, the answer is....
(1), (2) and (3)!

And responding to Akagi's 14:00
My guess is, since they survived having PRC plant Bubba occupying oval office, one occupying top intel chair is less egregious.

Pat
"Freeman is a "China coddling Israel basher."

And Israel does a good deal of China coddling too though and to a greater extent than Chas Freeman--Chas at least doesn't sell advanced weapons to China, Israel does.


"...have used that argument against Al Haig or Henry Kissinger?" Yes. I do all the time. Haig and Kissinger kiss more Chinese bottoms and other parts of the Chinese anatomy they probably have a pernament taste of soy sauce in their mouths. Add James Baker and a host of other former US officials--GOP and DP that do the same thing. They are worthless, money grubbing wh*res as are their entire famalies. Hell, Kissinger would dig up his grandmother and perform unnatural sex acts on her if he thought it would earn him more cash.

And Freeman did more than advise some Chinese company. It wasn't like he was giving advice to Hutchingson-Whampoa or Country Gardens or someone, but he sat on the board of a State owned oil company. Pat seems to like to gloss over the facts in this regard. He wasn't merely a consultant.

Pat your one of the best,
Make'm howl.

SVP
What Clinton did in regards to China was simply transfer export controls from State to DOC and not only did China want this but good ole American multinationals like Hughes and Rockwell.

I'd trust Clinton far more than I would Freeman. Of course Clinton's use of the R word in Shanghai is troubling, but the GOP token Colin Powell did too in Beijing. Makes you wonder if that is secretly US policy. Clinton did send two battlegroups to Taiwan as well when China went crazy over the Lee Teng Hui Visa issue (a issue that was partly the fault of the US itself--State, whoelse?).




JimP
Best what? Best anti-Semite? Best paleo-Republican? Best member of the Geriatric Hitler Appreciation Society?

SVP:

Some have said in the GOP, that Pat flirted a little too much with the F-word. McCain wanted him expelled from the party,

Of Patriots and Assassins
Hey Pat, when are you going to get off that anti-Israel and anti-AIPAC elixir that you've been thriving on for all these years?

OK, Israel has suppressed the Palestinians. But why? Because the Palestinians, including Abbas and his so-called "moderate" Fatah faction, are mortal enemies of the Jewish state and have vowed over and over again to destroy it. To them the "road map" to peace is merely a temporary pathway to a Palestinian state existing "from the river to the sea."

AIPAC is no different than any other lobby in this country. They all play hardball whenever their interests are threatened. You and your buddy Freeman have been long-time supporters of the Palestinians and you both scream like stuck pigs whenever your ox is being gored.

As for your views on Likud, thank heavens Bibi Netanyahu will be Israel's next prime-minister. He is the only Israeli politicin with the backbone to resist some of the suicidal concessions asked of Israel by the international community, concessions which will guarantee the eventual dissapearance of a Jewish state.

Howard

Leave them both
It is not the job of a free society to police the world. If one wishes to root for Israel, then root for Israel. Likewise with the Palestinians. Sticking our noses in the business of others will continue to get us into trouble. The US Government should end "aid" to both sides (and the rest of the world for that matter).

The Lobby
Who's Afraid of the Israel Lobby?? Everyone!!

http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=11719

Akagi
Best one to make haters of honest dialog like you howl

Hilarious
All the people complaining about this article can't debate it on its merits. They just scream Nazi Nazi Antisemitic Blah Blah.

The really sad thing is, Steve Rosen a man about to go on trial for treason against his country led the charge when it came to smearing Charles Freeman a man who spent his life working for the United States.

They have no argument. Smear is their only avenue.

Moonkeeper
The US hardly gives any aid to anyone actually. Dead last in the amount of ODA it gives--tied with Greece at 0.16% of GDP.

It gives hardly anything to the PA. Israel though gets the second most aid of any country behind Iraq. The others basically are given aid to pursue some policy that is important to the US--anti-drug efforts in Peru, Colombia and Mexico and Boliva. Anti terrorism in Indonesia, Kenya, Sudan, Pakistan, Iraq, Ethiopia, Uganda, and Afghanistan. The US isn't giving money to these countries out of the good of their heart per se--why Israel should be on the list is frankly mindless in my view.

JimP
And where in this honest dialogue did Pat mention that Freeman was a pro-Beijing hack? Or his views on Tibet or Taiwan or his service on the board of a Chinese SOE oil company?

We won't even get into Pat's fantasies like the Nazi's push into Poland was simply to grab the Polish Corridor or Smoot-Hawley was a good idea.


JimBob
Like to look at Freeman's Chinese views? I don't think his views are inline with US views. As for working for the US for years, so did Colin Powell and a host of other gutless, slimeballs. Treason has no expiration date nor does going native and in regards to China, Freeman has gone native.

My points have been on the merit. Freeman's over sympathetic view of China makes it impossible for him to be objective in regards to China and that makes his elevation to that post impossible.

Is Pat an anti-Semite and someone that has Nazi sympathies? Yes. Is that the point of my posts, no. I don't care Pat likes Nazis and likes former KGB better and hates Jews. Great! I do care that Freeman is a Chinese Manchurian candidate that would be working as much for Zhongnanhai as he would be for the White House.

So Diu Nie Lo Mo on him and his entire line.

OK Akagi...
... I usually appreciate your posts as voices of reason here, but saying that Pat Buchanan "likes" Nazis and "hates" Jews is the sort of over-the-top invective that's not only wrong, but destructive. Maybe Shells doesn't need to show up, if you'll do her work for her.


RW
Pat's support for Nazis found inside the US can only lead one to the conclusion he likes Nazis which fits into his various claims on WWII--the Polish Corridor, the UK was wrong to go to war against Hilter, etc.

Does Pat hate the Jews? Who really knows. His supporting Freeman, some one who shouldn't have the support of a person like Pat as well as his other columns seems to lead one to the conclusion that Pat is indeed an anti-Semite--is there an anti-Semite that doesn't hate Jews?

I stand by my posts as accurate. Just because you on some issues are at odds with Israel doesn't make you an anti-Semite, but when you bring up Jews and Israel over and over and over, it does indeed lead one to that conclusion.




RW
Also note I didn't construct that sentence well. I meant to say I don't care if Pat likes Nazis amd former KGB officials and hates Jews. And I don't. His opinion on that issues--Jews and Israel doesn't reflect on my distaste for Freeman, the Chinese mole.

One more thing
Freeman's claim of 10% of "Taiwanese" working in China to support his claim of a Taiwan as part of a greater China. He doesn't say how many of this 10% is Waishengren and thus not Taiwnese at all but mainlander and how many of the 10% are Benshengren and thus real Taiwanese. Of the 10% either Waishengren or Benshengren, what party do they support--DPP, TSU, KMT, PFP? And what outcome would they want to see in regards to Taiwan's political future. His 10% claim is classic PRC misdirection--and not the person that needs to be involved in crafting the NIE for the president.

You totally lost my support
with the quote "...Israel's repression of the Palestinian people."

ISRAEL'S repression?!! Maybe you would like to give us some details about how Israel has repressed the Palestinian people. I would love to hear it.

Perhaps you are speaking about the several times Israel has given away land for peace only to have these parcels of land used as a missle base to bomb Israli homes and schools.

If you want to know the real culprits, look at the way fellow Muslims and Arabs treat the Palestinian people. They could have taken them into their vast country (50 times bigger than Israel) and shared their immeasurable wealth with them decades ago but have chosen not to.

How's that for compassion? Peaceful religion my a55.

Ms Kelly
"ISRAEL'S repression?!! Maybe you would like to give us some details about how Israel has repressed the Palestinian people. I would love to hear it."

Plenty of that. Check points bisect the occupied territories making drives that should take 15 minutes into two hour treks, houses of the families of suspected terrorists are destroyed in a form of collective punishments used by the Nazis, olive groves have been cutdown because the Israelis claimed they were used as cover by snipers--the trees generations old and a source of major income for the family that owned them, and on and on.

Yes the other Arabs states have never taken in the refugees because they have no desire to reward Israel with facts on the ground. If Mexico took over a good part of the SW US, would you expect Canada to accept the Anglo refugees?


Remember the USS Liberty . . .
an AMERICAN NAVY VESSEL that was bombed for HOURS by our "friends", the israelis in 1967. lbj had A LOT to hide when he turned back help from our 6th Fleet. Let's face it, israel cares about israel (and nothing else). They will do what is in their best interests. (In a way, you can't blame them).
There are two situations that the israelis were trying to manipulate. The USS Liberty was "too close for comfort" and privy to an arab city being destroyed (people massacred).
They also wanted us to think that egyptian air force planes were the ones attacking us thereby provoking us to attack egypt with a nuke.
Their whole initial explanation of mistaken identity was proven to be false. They later paid "reparations" (U S taxpayer dollars) to families of some of the victims of the attack. The "Naval board of inquiry" into the attack was whitewashed. All personnel were warned not to talk about it to anyone under pain of courts martial.
israeli intelligence services (mossad) is arguably the best in the world. The "dirt" that they have on our politicians makes aipac the most successful lobby in washington. A little known fact is that a israeli company (amdocs) handles all telephone billing records for the United States. This insures that our politicians stay "bought and paid for".
If I had my way, "foreign aid" to ANY country (and the un) would be a thing of the past.

Muslims don't attack people?
Akagi, that is the most assinine stastement I have read in years. Maybe if you consent to subjugation or forced conversion you may live, but otherwise, they are killers of any realistic lifestyle, and will kill everyone that does not repress woman, rape children, (like their pedophile madman the evil mohamud), or wish to live in the 7th century and defacate in the streets. I can't wait until the coward muslims try to attack in an armed populace like America. They were realquick to kill over cartoons everywhere but here, because there would have been a well deserved bloodbath had they tried. They are cowards, living off woman and attacking the weak.

GREAT ARTICLE!
Thank you, Pat Buchanan for a breath of fresh air.

Akagi
Comparing compute time and the mowing of vegetation to busloads of school children being blown up is about as lopsided an argument as I have ever heard. Do you have children? If you do, you should be glad you are not a Jew living in Israel.

Israel did not start this fight. They never wanted it. They have tried repeatedly to make peace, but the Palestinians along with their Muslim cousins in other countries will have nothing but the complete and total destruction of Israel.

As for your argument about land, borders change over time through wars and other events. Suppose some Mexicans came to Georgia and told you that the home you purchased once belonged in their family but they were driven out in 1850. Would you hand your home over to them as the rightful owners?

My ancestors are from Scotland and Germany, but I would never assume to return to either of those countries and say that I had a right to a piece of land because my ancestors lost it in some war.

Add to that the fact that most of Israel was barren land that nobody wanted before the Jewish people took possession of it and by grit and ingenuity turned it into a little Eden. Can you say “jealousy”? T

These so called “Palestinians” (a made up nationality by the way) are no different than many of the other leeches in the world who want to live off other’s hard work.


NO PEACE
After dragging Israeli citizens, kicking and screaming, from their homes, they turned over land to the Palestinians that had beautiful greenhouses and other buildings which they prompted tore down and burned. Women rejoice after sending their young children to be blown to bits as suicide bombers. They don't want peace with Israel...they want Israel GONE. How do you have peace with people who are whacked out of their minds. It has been going on for thousands of years and it will not cease until one side is decimated.

The Palestinians can't even get along with each other. They are constantly at war among themselves, killing each other. As Osama said, "Americans love life...we love death."

Akagi - furthermore
You solidify my argument that Muslims are the oppressors by your statement “Yes the other Arabs states have never taken in the refugees because they have no desire to reward Israel with facts on the ground.” This is proof that the conflict has never been about the suffering of Palestinians. That suffering could end in a week if the Arab states would receive their own people. Instead, the Palestinians are willingly sacrificed in order to drive the Jews out of the Middle East. This is all that matters.


As to whether I would expect Canada to take in American refugees in the event of a U.S. overthrow by Mexico, the answer is yes. I would expect Canada to receive a portion of American refugees. Since Mexico is a socialist country and Hugo Chavez is essentially a dictator, I would expect all democratic free countries to offer refuge to Americans who did not want to remain in America and live under those conditions. This would be the humanitarian response and politically speaking the reasonable response of free countries. It’s called political asylum and civilized countries have been doing this for centuries. I guess the conditional term here is civilized. Muslims are not civilized, so they don’t mind sitting by and watching generations of their own people suffer for the sake of their obsessive hatred of Jews.

Excuse my error
I should have said Vincent Fox regarding Mexico, not Chavez.

Just finished reading an article about Venezuela and had Fox on my mind.

Freeman hates America, does Buchanan?
Whatever one's views on America's relationship with Israel, Charles Freeman is odious for his own anti-Americanism, a paid shill for two of the world's worst regimes China and Saudi Arabia.

Charles Freeman is not fit to serve the country he reviles while acting as an apologist for its enemies.

Buchanan's belief that the enemy of his enemy (Israel) is a friend worth praising has put him into bed with a traitor to American interests, Charles Freeman as documented by his entire career.

Ms Kelly
Thank you for your replies.Someone here had to tell the truth about the Palestinians.You did great.It should also be mentioned that if the muslims win,everywhere Christ walked and preached would be torn down and a mosque would be built.

Oh,and that part about Americans fleeing to Canada.Pushed out by Mexico.Don't worry,it's coming sooner than you think.

ROB

the diplomat emerges.
at least in this one the lines are clear and in black and white.
I appreciate Mr. Buchanan stepping back for the twenty mile high perspective. Suddenly, post election, I see him as a diplomat, with a perspective, more than the staunch and driven position talker.
Carefull though, the penalty for siding with common sense against the 'rightistas' and 'contrarians' is mighty indeed.

Hey Doofus
Ms Kelly: "As to whether I would expect Canada to take in American refugees in the event of a U.S. overthrow by Mexico, the answer is yes. I would expect Canada to receive a portion of American refugees. Since Mexico is a socialist country and Hugo Chavez is essentially a dictator, I would expect all democratic free countries to offer refuge to Americans who did not want to remain in America and live under those conditions..."

Hugo Chavez is the president of Venezuela, not Mexico (which is hardly a Socialist country). Get a f#$%^ing education before spewing your crap. Jesus, you "Israel-firsters" are really an uneducated lot.

Bravo, Pat!
This is my second attempt (I guess I couldn't get past TH's "Israel Firster" censors earlier), so...

This is the first time I have heard anyone mention the notorious AIPAC/Rosen treason case, which was buried in the middle of the Washington Post last summer (and we all know who owns the Washington Pravda, as I like to call it). Anyway, if any person representing any other racial group had done the same, it would have been on page one, except possibly those obnoxious Cubans in Miami. Isn't the punishment for treason death? I heard that ages ago. Would be interesting to see if it holds up in this case. My guess is no.

And no, Pat Buchanan is not a Nazi. Anyone who thinks that knows little about the beliefs of government under National Socialism. Of course, your group believes the same of Jimmy Carter, Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, and Z. Breszinski (sorry, I can't remember how to spell his un-spellable Polish name, but the chap who worked for Carter). Any American who fights for the interests of the United States over Israel's is a patriot.

Ms. Kelly:
ERGH! (my attempt at "wrong" noise)

Vicente Fox is no longer the president of Mexico (it's been a while). My earlier comment regarding your lot stands.

Try Googling to find out who is the president of Mexico.

GARY ROSEN STRIKES AGAIN !!!
Gary writes:

"If Jew hating didn't exist, Buchanan would have invented it."

Aslan writes:

Its good to put the activities of Neocons out in the public forum so they are not always working behind the scenes in secret. The difference between people like Gary Rosen is not that he is Jewish or not but rather that he is an Israeli Firster unlike Buchanan and myself who are American Firsters....

And you people call Pat B. the racist
Robert: "Ms. Kelly Thank you for your replies.Someone here had to tell the truth about the Palestinians.You did great.It should also be mentioned that if the muslims win,everywhere Christ walked and preached would be torn down and a mosque would be built.

Oh,and that part about Americans fleeing to Canada.Pushed out by Mexico.Don't worry,it's coming sooner than you think."

Are you this "Wobbie" person I keep seeing referenced in posts?

Relax. The Mexicans aren't trying to steal the US (they would have a hell of a time succeeding). They want to make money, but hell, don't we all? The Muslims aren't trying to take us over either. There are not too many of them here to start with.

Caliqula
What?

"The Mexicans aren't trying to steal the US . . . They want to make money, . . ."

And:

"The Muslims aren't trying to take uf over either. There are not too many of them here . . . "

Are you even paying attention?

Ms. Kelly
Georgia has never been part of Mexico and the part of Georgia that was once controlled by Spain is hundreds of miles from where I live and the British put a stop to that anyway--see Battle of Bloody Marsh. The people that would have claims to the land would be the Muscogee.

As for the land for peace--never has happened. First, the Jewish settlements, the check points, and the like would have remained under the Clinton Camp David deal. Not to mention the status of East Jurusalem. No Palestinian leader could have agreed to such--it wasn't land for peace, it was unilateral surrender. Any Palestinian leader would not be long for this earth that signed on to that deal. They would be the Palestinian version of Major Ridge and we all know what happened to him don't we?

Ms Kelly
"Add to that the fact that most of Israel was barren land that nobody wanted before the Jewish people took possession of it and by grit and ingenuity turned it into a little Eden."

Same fable the apartheidists said about South Africa. "They were no black folk before we came and made this place what it was and all these blacks showed up and now want to be in charge."

You known Gandhi's retort to the British over their occupation of Inida...about being masters in someone else's house?




Realety
Do they attack people in Malaysia? Singapore? And at places where Muslims do attack it is often over non-religious issues. Southern Thailand for example is more a fight over the Muslim south being ignored by Bangkok. Those in Xinjiang really rather not be part of the PRC (which is no different from Taiwan or Tibet).

Much of the Palestinian resistance was from the PLO and much of it wasn't Islamic, but Marxist. Yes Hamas (which Israel helped to rise) and Hezbollah are indeed Islamists, but the PLO by and large were not. And you often find strange alliances. Syria an Arab socialist state supported Hezbollah, a Iranian-backed Islamist group.

The Plaestinian conflict is not simply a front on the world-wide plot to make the entire world Islamic, much of the conflict has little to do with religion.

PB: Of charecter assasinaters
~Isreal's repression of the Palistinian people~ You mean the invented people, who have had their own homeland since the Balfour Accords??? (Trans Jordan, now Jordan, 95% Paleostinians, but kept in refugee camps by their fellow arabs, the Hashemites) Might DECADES of suicide attacks, murder of it's own people and daily rockets have any bearing on this arguement Pat??? Your anti-semitism has blinded you of what the muslims THEMSELVES say (in their respective charters) is the goal of their barbarism! The extinction of the Jews in the ME and the state of Israel. Does your references to ~occupied territories~ refer to land Israel has given up o try to appease the muslim haters? When the other side refuses to abide by their treaty obligations, are you inferring Israel is still obligated to abide by theirs???
Considering your hard-line anti-semitism, can we safely assume that you're in favo of O'Dumbo's promise to give HAMAS $931 million to re-arm and another $20 million to assist their invasion of our country??? (BTW, O'Dumbo came up with this idea at the same time as he was caterwauling about how desperate our economy was!)
Pat, sit down, take your meds and please stop writing this swill! You're REALLY starting to make yourself look silly!

Mr. Buchanan's hypocrisy is showing.
Is Pat Buchanan an "antisemite?" From a religious and nationalistic aspect, absolutely. While some of his "best friends" may be Jews, he employes some of the most simplistic and transparent double-standards when it comes to "judging" the actions of Jews versus non-Jews.

Regarding Chas Freeman, he was ON BOTH THE CHINESE AND SAUDI PAYROLL. This isn't debatable or questionable. This isn't merely him expressing notoriously bigoted and slanted anti-Israeli views. This is Freeman being paid to be a. anti-American and b. anti-Israel and, in many respects, antisemitic. The "neo-cons" that Buchanan mentions don't have the kind of DIRECT financial ties to a. communist regimes and/or be. fascistic police states with direct ties to terrorism that Freeman had. Freeman's "service" isn't necessarily more "admirable" than Dennis Ross or ANY of the "neo-cons" Pat mentions. It's just that Pat doesn't like the Jews and is against anything that remotely promotes or supports Israeli interests - even when those interests are lock-step with America's interests.

Freeman got what he deserved - not by the "Lobby," which didn't say much on the matter - but by his own borderline treasonous actions born primarily out of greed.
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