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Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Lyndon Baines Obama
by Pat Buchanan
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It was the winter of conservative discontent.

Barry Goldwater had gotten only 38 percent of the vote, and his party had suffered its worst thrashing since Alf Landon fell to FDR in 1936.

Democrats held 295 House seats, Republicans 140. They held 68 Senate seats to Republicans' 32, and 33 governors to the GOP's 17.

Democratic registration was twice that of the GOP. The liberal press was gleefully writing the obituary of "The Party That Lost Its Head."

Decades might pass, it was said, before the GOP recovered from its fatal embrace of right-wing radicalism and foolish rejection of the leadership of Govs. Nelson Rockefeller and William Scranton.

Wrote Robert Donovan in the opening lines of his book, "The Future of the Republican Party":

"The devastating defeat of Barry Goldwater at the hands of voters in all sections of the country but the Deep South has damaged, weakened and tarnished the party. For years to come ... the two-party system will be crippled."

Donovan and all the rest were wrong. The GOP came roaring back in 1966 to capture 47 House seats and eight new governorships. In 1968, Nixon led the party out of the wilderness and into a White House it would hold for 20 of the next 24 years.

Full of hubris in 1965, Lyndon Johnson had seized his moment. He had launched a Great Society that would outdo his beloved patron FDR. He would dispatch 500,000 troops to Vietnam to "bring the coonskin home on the wall" and create a "Great Society on the Mekong." Those were heady days of "guns-and-butter."

By 1968, LBJ's coalition was shredded. Gov. George Wallace had torn away the populist right. Sens. Gene McCarthy, George McGovern and Robert Kennedy had rallied the antiwar left against him. LBJ and Hubert Humphrey were left to preside over a shrinking center.

Why did LBJ fail? He overloaded the circuits. He tried to do it all. He misread a national desire for continuity after Kennedy's death as a mandate for a lunge to the left and a great leap forward with the largest expansion of government since the New Deal.

By 1968, racial riots had torn apart almost every great city. The most prestigious campuses had been rocked by student violence. Thousands of antiwar demonstrators had taken to the streets. And 100 to 200 body bags were coming home from Vietnam every week.

By the winter of 1968, Lyndon Johnson was a broken president.

History never repeats itself exactly. But Barack Obama is making the same mistakes today that LBJ made in 1965.

He has ordered 17,000 more U.S. troops into Afghanistan, as the situation deteriorates and the NATO allies pull out. He has no exit strategy. He has read a repudiation of George Bush as a mandate for a government seizure of wealth and power that exceeds anything attempted in the Great Society.

Fully half of the $3.55 trillion in spending Obama will preside over this year will not be covered by tax revenue but by red ink. The money will have to be borrowed from abroad or printed by the Fed.

Not only is Barack running a deficit four times as large as Bush's largest, he has called for $1 trillion in new taxes on America's most successful, who have already seen their savings and pensions ravaged.

He wants a cap-and-trade system to deal with a global-warming or climate-change crisis many scientists believe is a hoax. He is going to provide health care for all, including immigrants, millions of whom arrive uninsured every year. He is going to plunge scores of billions more into education, though education has eaten up the wealth of an empire, as SAT scores sink further and further below the apogee of 1964, before LBJ and the feds barged in. He is going to ask Congress for authority to spend another $750 billion rescuing the banks.

He is going to find the cure for cancer. He is going to ensure every kid gets a college education. He is going to drop half of all wage-earners off the tax rolls, while the top 2 percent, who already pay 40 percent of all income taxes, are forced to cough up more.

Obama is misreading the election returns. When America voted to cancel the White House lease of Mr. Bush, it did not vote Barack Obama a blank check.

By misinterpreting his mandate, Obama has accomplished something John McCain could not -- unite the Republican Party and instill in it a new esprit de corps. For the Obama budget is an insult to the core belief of the party -- that free people, not coercive government, should shape the character of society.

By daring Republicans to fight on the issue of a $1.75 trillion deficit, Obama has liberated the GOP from any obligation to him. He has come out of the closet as a radical liberal spoiling for a fight over an agenda of radical change.

Sooner than any might have thought, we have clarity.

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This column
Is one of the better(For the most part) columns by the author lately.


LBJ/GWB
Never elect someone from Texas.

All you'll get is WAR and indians not taxed burning down the country.

Now BO is another kind of cat.

He's going to waste money on the same loser
programs and have nothing to show for it.

How much money can we print and spend in 4 years on programs that will cost even more after he is gone.

These programs add no value to the dollar.
These programs spend more tax dollars then they bring back.
These programs produce nothing but more dependants.

All those green jobs are off shore jobs because thats where they build everything and then it's shipped back the U.S.A.

If America isn't building anything America isn't buying anything.


If the GOP is united where's its leader?
Why is the GOP leadership silent? The base is energized with nobody to take us where we need/want to go. We'd all be on board with the GOP if they would stand up for something.

We can see a few attempts from the GOP to stand for something, but they have to articulate what they are doing so that it is clear to people. They talked of not being the spending party, but with GWB they spent like crazy. They have to go against Obama, say why they are doing it and keep doing it and saying why. Plus, they have to come up with their own agenda and try to convince the moderate dems to come on board with them. Let's start the fight.

Misreading election returns?
America DID hand Obama a blank check. Now it has to live through the consequences of that stupidity.


Great Anaylisis
Keep it coming

Turning all the dials at the same time .
Excellent article! Obama has made the amateur mistake of "turning all the dials to 10 at the same time".

No one with executive experience would have done this.

You Forgot Something
That Nixon did not govern like a conservative. His economics were big government in that he did not dismantle the LBJ spending apparatus. In fact, he increased federal gvt manipulation of our lives, ie, banning tobacco commercials on TV, wage and price controls, 55 mile an hour speed limit. All, of course, for "the common good."

The point is that the answer is NOT with the GOP. They sell us out every time. A new party is the best solution. There are lots of small-government leaders out there: Ron Paul, Bob Barr to name two who can start from scratch.

OBAMA & THE LBJ CENTENNIAL
LBJ was born in 1908 the year the Illinois born William Jennings Bryan lost his third and final presidential election. In the year of Jenning's defeat the Democratic Party held its convention in Denver a city that would not host another Democratic Convention for 100 years. Amazingly, last August, at Denver's Invesco Field, Obama delivered his acceptance speech one day after LBJ's 100th birthday. Buchanan does well to compare Obama to LBJ, but he's only scratching the surface. The uncanny relationship between both men will be explored in my soon to be published book: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama: the End of New Deal Liberalism, the Counter Culture Sixties and the Resurgence of the Reagan Republican Right.





Thanks Pat!
Great article Pat. Love the historical perspective!

Well.
Once again, I agree with Pat. Amazing. The COW is effing up...who knew?

This is a 5 star piece.
As of this post, Pat has 4 stars. Is there anything Pat said that is incorrect?

Not 5 Stars Because:
John from PA: 4 stars because he implies that the Republican party will save us from this socialist onslaught. While he aptly slaps LBJ around, he did not remind us that the GOP is batting .166 when in power: In six at-bats: Nixon administration, Reagan administration, GHW Bush administration, Contract With America under Clinton, Bush 2, and the 2002 congressional gains under Bush 2, the GOP advanced economic conservatism only once: Under Reagan. They started off OK with the Contract With America, but soon let the press hen-peck them.

Pat knows this full well. Maybe there is just not enough room in a column to say so.

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT

.....FIVE STARS for this one ...

.....The problem with the GOP is that when Liberal excesses drive them over the cliff (FDR,LBJ and maybe OBAMBI) ...The GOP does not capitalize because they always betray their Conservative base (NIXON, GW) ...

.....Conservatives need a leader and since REAGAN left the scene they haven't had one .....COLOSSUS

I think Little Fidel Obama fits him
Mr Obama has a plan, he is destroying private
wealth in this country on purpose. His nickname
ought to be "Little Fidel Obama". The plan is to
reduce our middle class down to peasant status.
Permanent recession anyone? And Cuba still has
never rid itself of the leader who crushed the
capital markets in favor of all out socialism.

Not So Fast, Pat
Pat:"Why did LBJ fail? He overloaded the circuits." Terribly, terribly wrong. LBJ did not fail - aren't we still feeling the effects of his tenure? If not, these can be drawn out for you. He wanted 100% and perhaps got 15%. So what did he lose? Nothing, we lost. Was our country more socialized after LBJ than before? Absolutely. And that is being repeated today. Bush stupidly waged war on Iraq for whatever reason - but the answer is - to protect the oil flow, instead of drilling that was prohibited by his father and the Demos. BHO has little to lose by claiming he will ............. . You fill in the blank, and with many things. He wants socialism-marxism that requires a huge government because it takes a village.

The Warrior is Back
Achilleus, the greatest of warriors, is back in the fight...

But so is Matt Miller; so is Warren Buffet; so is Paul Krugman; so is Larry Summers!

It's great to be alive--to witness this contest.

And here we are Patrick
Faced with the worst enemy in the history of America.
A rotten snake in the White House.
The most dishonest person who has inhabited that dwelling since it was built.
And after all the lies of the Republican Party ruined by the Trotskyites like GW Bush and John McCain, that's saying something.

Nothing close to TRUTH comes out of Washington DC anymore.
The most corrupt seat of power on mother earth.
Obama fits that corruption like a well made glove

GWB disciple of LBJ?
This is not to excuse Obama.

If his policies do not work, he will be held accountable.

Yes, he inherited a mess from Bush, but at some point Obama's policies will be judged on their own merits.

Both Bush and LBJ deployed our military to establish or maintain governments against perceived threats(LBJ's idea of a friendly South Vietnam being a bulwark against spread of communism in Indochina, and Bush's idea about a democratic Iraq being a bulwark against spread of radical Islamism in mideast).

Under both LBJ and Bush, huge expenditure of prosecuting wars were financed via borrowing rather than raising taxes(LBJ reluctantly urged a tax increase to help finance the war, but not until his State of the Union address in Jan. 1968, and Bush never urged a tax increase for Iraq).

Both LBJ and Bush greatly expanded government spending(with LBJ it was Great Society's Medicare, along with Vietnam war, and with Bush it was prescription drug benefit addition to Medicare, and the Iraq war).

They both saddled the nation with debt.

I suspect Obama will be forced to raise taxes on both the rich and the middleclass to pay for all the new programs he plans to implement(despite his rhetoric on raising taxes only on the wealthy to Clinton-era rates).

His programs will require the middleclass pay more in taxes too.

Agree with Pat that Obama may be over reaching. He ought to focus on stablizing financial and banking markets.

That is the crisis now.

Energy, education, health care reform, can wait.

But at least Obama is honest on the cost of the wars, placing them in the budget, unlike Bush who used gimmicks(repeated supplementals)to mask the costs.

That is one reason why the deficit is large.

Obama included its cost in the budget.

IQ and education
Esteemed participants of the discussion !
Somehow you all assume that it does not matter, who is to be educated; that with sufficient amount of funds and with sufficient number of talented, dedicated teachers, any student may be raised to the level of a well-qualified engineer, scientist, medical doctor, lawyer, etc. Unfortunately, this is not so; see e.g. Derbyshire’s post http://johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Straggler/073.html , recent book “Real Education” by Ch. Murray (of THE BELL CURVE fame), and the report about Kansas city, Missouri, 1985, experiment http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.pdf . In that experiment almost unlimited amount of money has been poured on the urban school district, and the results were negative for exactly those, who were supposed to benefit from the action: for minority students. My warning to the educational reformers: beware what you wish for; you may get it !
Respectfully, Florida resident.

Talent Scout
Really? Bush a "Trotskyite"? You should learn what words mean before you use them like bumper stickers. It's time we outlawed hyperbole in favor of actual communication, before the language starts to sound like DNC talking points.

Ann Coulter...
...was unmercifully mocked for saying she would rather vote for Hillary Clinton than John McCain. In the end, she observed that Obama was just so flat out scary, that she couldn't endorse him. But the same principle is in play. If McCain and the republicans were still in charge, things would be little different than they are with Obama. And republicans would deservedly get full credit for the debacle. But with the Democrats completely in charge and driving the economy ever downward, they cannot escape the blame for the current situation and further deterioration. This is the time for the republican party to have a rennaisance. One only hopes that those liberal (supposedly moderate) republicans get swept out with the democrats in the next round of elections like happened to Clinton and LBJ in their mid-terms. It will be to no avail, if globalist republicans replace socialist democrats, because there is little if any difference between them. And if the republicans do get back in power in Congress, we need to somehow ensure they don't end up going off the reservation. Organizationally, the republicans need to build up the farm team program in the states and municipalities and have these young chargers nipping at the heals of the republicans in Congress to keep them on the straight and narrow. What we really need is for the pundits to critically review all politicians, especially our own with respect to constitutional adherence. If it ain't specifically called out in the constitution, it needs to be left in the hands of the states and the people!

jerebaub...
Both should have asked Congress to declare war and lived with Congress's verdict. If Congress isn't willing to make a declaration of war and stand behind it, then we will inevitably end up in this kind of "police action" mess with internal division and obstructiuoin that can't be called out as the treason it is and this long term bleeding with no intent to get in, inflict maximum damage for maximum result, and getting out.

Integrity
Mr.Buchanan: You always speak with integrity. That you anchor your thoughts with a historical perspective, reading Americans can sense the STABILITY that is so lacking in this weak, misguided president who is warping everything our strong society has believed in for years. He is trading weak for strong -- pathetic.

Keep writing -- real leadership springs real hope. Thank you so much for your efforts to put the right message out.

Obama hasn't a clue as to what he is
doing. He has taken the Community Organizer blueprint and thrown it over a country of 300 million people as if it was a neighborhood of 200 people. Such a policy is unworkable.

A small focused group in a community can accomplish many things to improve the neighborhood. A nation of 300 million people with many diverse interests works very differently.

President Obama thinks like a community organizer, and his experiences with that do not include managing a budget or meeting a set of defined results. It depends on the good feelings of those involved and sending some money to the neighborhood that is extorted from nervous politicians who want to appear concerned and friendly.

"We the people" have allowed this menace to grow because we have fallen for the DEM/GOP/MSM propaganda that tells us only the elites have the necessary wisdom, knowledge, and experience to govern. That is the biggest scam ever perpetrated upon this nation. Look at how well it is working.

We need to reject the two corrupt major parties if we ever intend to restore Constitutional self government. In fact, we need to return to the concept of citizen legislators who serve the nation first, not the party. Electing more Dem/GOP el;ites is not the answer.

The answer is for us to get together with family, friends, and neighbors to start a campaign to elect one of us. That's right, YOU need to run for congress and throw out the corrupt elites. If we don't do it, who will? This is our country, our home, and it is time to take control from the failed management that we have hired.

There is no other choice! Thanks, Joe

Beware of the Third Party Mantra
Democrats are starting to realize that they are in trouble in local Congressional districts. Their new strategy is going to be to argue that this is the time for a third party. They'll argue that the Republicans messed up, so you can't trust the Republican Party which is why the country needs a third party.

This is a trap to divide and conquer. Democrats know that if they can split the Republican vote, they can eek out wins and remain in power.

We need to do all that we can to fight the third party concept that they are now testing and throwing out on conservative blogs. It's a trap.

The way we win is by sticking together to unseat every single Democrat and liberal RINO who votes with Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

Also, as far as Republican leadership is concerned, right now I see it coming from the National Republican Trust. They are not part of the party but are a PAC group who is targeting people on a national level to unseat Democrats and disloyal Republicans like Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins.

The National Republican Trust helped Saxby Chambliss win his Senate seat in Georgia by 16 points. We would really be in trouble if Chambliss hadn't won that seat. So, as far as I am concerned, this PAC group has already proven its value.

If you care, you should donate something, anything to help this organization. Their website address is: http://www.nationalrepublicantrust.com.

We need to put our time and money into defeating this march towards Socialism and the undoing of our country's Constitutional foundation.

We can't count on just winning the fight, we have to actually get into in ourselves, each and every one of us.

George Washington said this ...
"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army" -

Gen. George Washington, to his troops before the battle of Long Island

http://www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com/


Nixon
But, the only reason Nixon won was because RFK was shot in the Ambassador Hotel. He would have smashed Nixon. The Democrats then replaced the anti-war Kennedy with the status quo LBJ VP, Humphrey and then there were the riots as protesters who wanted to see McCarthy or McGovern. Then you had Wallace, the racist governor of Alabama who ran on the American Independent Party ticket and he stripped enough votes from Humphrey to give Nixon the election. If not for RFK's death and Wallace, the GOP would have lost yet again in 1968.

After, due to Vietnam, the Democrats went hard left, nominating one of the post-RFK favored candidates, George McGovern in 1972 and lost in one of the biggest electoral defeats in US history (with help from Nixon's dirty tricks, though he would have lost badly even if Nixon had played it clean).

Carter was a response to Nixon's corruption and the view Ford was an idiot (there is no Soviet domination in Eastern Europe and there never will be)plus the pardon.

Carter's cluelessness and nomination of two hard liberals sealed the DP's fate for 12 years. The DP repeated this in 2000 and 2004.

Demographic changes and what seems to be a party out of touch, don't expect a repeat of 1968 anytime soon. It may be a long time before the GOP comes back to the majority or the White House. Losses in the Congress next year will probably be as bad as 2006 and 2008.

ApolloSpeaks
The last time you used your numberology to predict an outcome you predicted a GOP victory for McCain. Please note who is now president. I think you have proven your numberology as a predictive mechanism is total horse pee.


Vickie
"That you anchor your thoughts with a historical perspective..."

Which are more times than not flat out wrong. He has no training in history or even a related discipline to history. His WWII historical claims are pure fantasy.

TOhio
Yes. Third Parties is what the US needs and junking the presidential system too--but that would mean a total re-write of the US Constitution and I am all in favor of that.

Akagi wrote @ 13:17
"But, the only reason Nixon won was because RFK was shot in the Ambassador Hotel". Not the opinion of Michael Beschloss (who believes RFK wouldn't have been nominated anyway).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_assassinatio n#1968_election

(to other conservatives such as GunnyG, Georgetwin, PA-Anne, anderson659, ...--my apology for the reference to Wickedpedia)

LBJ

jerabaub:

He was right about Vietnam and that goes back to Ike, even Truman. The theory proved correct didn't it? With the defeat of the US in 1975, both Laos and Cambodia fell to communist regimes. Indonesia came pretty close to that in 1965 and to get itself out of Vietnam with at least a shred of honor left, it had to start the process of throwing Taiwan over the side.

US policy toward Vietnam was correct--the US simply didn't have the balls to carry out this policy and US policy there was simply a continuing the Truman Doctrine (which he himself failed to live up to by cutting off the ROC and giving Kim the greenlight to invade the ROK)which Ike followed later in Central America by overthrowing the elected government of Guatemala, and Kennedy's actions in Laos. LBJ was just following established US policy.

Iraq on the otherhand was just stupid. But like Vietnam, the US had no clear answer how to win or even what winning was and thus Vietnam was a total failure and the US betrayal in 1975 of its ally has to be one of the most shameful events in US history.

SVP
That may be his opinion, but he would have been nominated in mine. But even if not, Nixon didn't win because of a rebound in Republican principles but because of the implosion of the Democratic Party. On the left, the anti-war, peace at any cost--RFK, McGovern, McCarthy. the center (LBJ who decided not to seek re-election soon after what happened in New Hampshire) and Humphrey and the right--the racist Dixiecrats like Wallace. Humphrey was leading in delegates when RFK was killed though. Theodore White and Arthur Schlesinger both top historians claim RFK would have won the nomination, but we really don't know. The point though is Nixon didn't come back because of what Nixon or the GOP did, but rather issues like the war (he claimed he would end it--peace with honor. Peace yes, not so sure about the honor part)and opposition to the civil rights movement

As for Wiki, I have seen only a very few errors from the pages I have seen--both Chinese and English language pages. I have not been to every page of course nor can I judgements on subjects I know little about--say the history of Slovakia, but it is not overly error filled as some here like to claim from the sample I have seen.

Mr. Buchanan
a fine man, a great thinker.
In the past the Republican party has roared back but the entire make up of our country has shifted. Obama has made matters worse by constantly preaching class distinction day after day - all during the campaign and even now as President. In the near future he will begin to discuss amnesty - to cement his base even more - oh they love him - all those waiting for a check, a mortgage payment, a car payment, a sink and a stove, a bathroom. Only hope we have is all those things will not arrive in the mail very soon and his base will begin to drift.
As one person posted - he treats the entire country like a neighborhood that needs a community organizer - that is what Obama is - an arrogant community organizer.
We called him an empty suit - then someone said an empty suit is not dangerous but Obama is - how true. We say he is in way over his head -and he is -problem is - he is dragging us along and "we the people" are in over our heads -drowning in national debt.
A few prominent liberals are starting to worry aloud - let's hope they keep it up.

Lyndon Baines Obama
Akagi wrote at 1326 that he favored a change in the Constitution. A typical thought of any good Democrat,Progressive, Socialist, Communist, whatever they call themselves today.
They will try to destroy this Republic any way can

Sorry, Akagi

This Country has been governed by our Constitution for over 225 years and it has served us well. Remember, you must have the approval of 75% of the States to amend the Constitution.... screech! Yep, Agaki, you would need the approval of us awful people in the red states.

Please arrange to see a mental health professional or move to China as soon as possible.

Style Over Substance
I just got off the phone with a very good friend. She voted for Obama and believes that his vision of change is the ONLY path to follow. I tried to explain to her that Obama's policies of taxing and spending has never worked at any time and for any country. Nothing mattered and even though I love my friend, I believe she is typical of so many in our society. Obama is young and energetic and has cute kids and speaks well. The specifics of his policies mean nothing. It's style over substance and that can only mean ill for our great country.

Rosemary
You begin your analysis so well in discounting Buchanan's thesis that history eventually repeats and the republicans will roar back at some near future point, by observing that the country has shifted.

This is the central, determining factor. It's not the system, not the laws, it's the common folk, the people, who determine what a nation is about.

Obama is actually the man of the hour, perfect for the overweight nation of victims, gimmies, dhimmis, whiners, spoiled brats and ungrateful freeloaders we have become. He sensed the abyss the herd is stampeding toward better than any one else. All he did was jump in front of it yelling I Will take You There!

And we made him our master.



No Denise
We'd call a constitutional convention, but that would require the 38 statehouses to agree. Very unlikely I know. The statehouses are controlled by the one-party that controls the Federal government (the establishment party) so why should they want to change when the status quo keeps them all in power?

Philip:

I do indeed.

Philip
I didn't say I wanted it changed either, but replaced. Easier to bring in the positive aspects of the old one into the new one--the Bill of Rights, etc--than change the old one. Take a good number of amendments to replace the presidential system, incorporate the legislature into a unicameral body, embed the executive inside the legislature which is what happens in a Parliamentary system, downgrade the president into a symbolic office as head of state and so on.


AKAGI

What did you say about my predictions? My method proves beyond question that Obama and McCain were providential candidates. That both were destined to run for the 44th Presidency as the signs of success for the other leading candidates: Clinton, Romney, Edwards and Huckabee were practically non existent.

That I was wrong in my prediction about McCain's victory was principly due to the misinterpretion of two converging Republican election cycles which had Barack Obama written all over it and has significance for the GOP's political future (I will cover this in a future work).

McCain's candidacy was one of the most significant and meaninful loses of any presidential nominee in US history, as McCain is a national symbol of tragedy and triumph-this will be fully covered in my upcoming work: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama.

The predictions I've made since the election on the Obama presidency are practically unfolding like a script. For starters read my: The Omninous Death of Madelyn Dunham, the grandmother of the President who died 24 hours before her son's victory on the 44th anniversary of LBJ's landslide defeat of Goldwater. Dunham's death was not a random event and foreshadows a necessarily perilous and unfortunate presidency more tragic and consequential than LBJ's

By the way, I catagorically reject your view that Vietnam "was a total failure." Our setback in Vietnam proved essential for the rise of Ronald Reagan and the defeat of Soviet Communism. And I dare say that Iraq, not Afghanistan, will be Obama's Vietnam with America defeating its Islamofacist enemies in the end. This too will be covered in The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama

Right on Pat.
You see it clearly, as you usually do, to my eyes at least. We suffer for years/decades however from bad policies installed by poor Presidents and poor Congressional leaders. We don't elect very good people, do we. Even if Obama bombs out, he has done irrepairable damage and destroyed taller buildings than al quieda. We will suffer for a long time for letting these bozos get into office by whatever means they used.

F - Obama
MSNBC asked more than 73,000 repondents, "If you were grading Barack Obama on his performance as president, what would he get?"

More than half of all respondents – or 57 percent – gave Obama an "F."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId= 91346

Since the year 2000, Democrats learned..
well from the Republicans how to get out the vote. Now, Republicans need to take a cue from the Democrats to get a Republican President elected. Whoever it is needs to have a great personality and be entertaining and promise all kinds of wonderful things knowing that it doesn't really matter what a candidate says because all that is out the window when governance begins.

A huge new wrinkle in the Democrats' get out the vote plan was their Secretary of State Project. They cherry-picked states where voting would be close......and then they preceded the Presidential election by getting Democrats into the Secretary of State positions.....witness Brunner in Ohio and Ritchie in Minnesota et. al.

So.....besides finding the right candidates for the House, Senate, and Presidency, some strategy needs to go into laying a foundation for winning, as you can see.

Michael Steele has more than enough work cut out for him besides being a talking head on every TV spot available.....or hopefully he has a good assistant who will carry the ball while he goes galavanting up and down the east coast in his dog and pony show.

Akagi
Re-write the constitution? Are you serious?! Over my dead body along with millions of others. To me, that is an inspired, sacred document. If the nation gets to that mindset, we will disintegrate. I hope you never get your wish.

Talent Scout,TOhio,Denise
Talent scout, boy it is good to see you post!
I take medical "time off" and come back and forth, been worried about you! Iam really relieved to see your name again! Take care!

TOhio-- even if I leave the GOP I would still vote for a GOP candidate if I had confidence
in that person over a scummy Demorat!Gotta
throw a recent experience at you.. a black friend of mine..fairly conservative said to me
I have voted democrat for many years...not exclusively..but mostly and there was only one candidate that I was afraid that would face
Obama in the election! He actually seemed the smartest of all of them and was not kissy to the Illegals-- MITT ROMNEY! He went on to say
that proves to me the GOP party is stupid!

Denise...what are the requirements to get put in the supreme court?
This is good for my buddy TALENT..who is pretty smart on these matters!
Denise..are you still going to be my honeybee
when I return? ha ha ha.chuckle.
Take care.....Elvis

John
Exactly so. You said it better than I but just to emphasize: REPUBLICANS ARE NOT THE ANSWER. My greatest fear now is that voters will backlash and bring in the Repubs who will then think they have inherited the keys to the kingdom and can do as they please...which is spend, tax, nanny, and intrude...no different from the Dems.

We need a new party and some common sense while we still have a country.

Elvis- SCOTUS
"Denise...what are the requirements to get put in the supreme court?
This is good for my buddy TALENT..who is pretty smart on these matters!
Denise..are you still going to be my honeybee
when I return? ha ha ha.chuckle.
Take care.....Elvis"

Hey, Elvis!!! How ya doing?
Of course, I am your honeybee. Where are you?

You are talking about the Sup.Ct of the US, right? The President nominates a person, who has almost always been an attorney, a hearing is held before a Senate committee, and, if the nominee makes it out of committee, then a full vote is taken in the Senate.

St. Sup. Cts are different some are appointed and the others are elected.

Luv ya.

Akagi- Put Down The Sake
"We'd call a constitutional convention, but that would require the 38 statehouses to agree. Very unlikely I know. The statehouses are controlled by the one-party that controls the Federal government (the establishment party) so why should they want to change when the status quo keeps them all in power?"

Very unlikely??? How about impossible? You want a war. I can tell you right now that the South, parts of the Rockies and Mid West will go beserk. We do not want to become San Francisco or Seattle.


Hey Geoff
You write
Geoff Location: TX
Reply # 30
10:42 AM EST
Talent Scout
Really? Bush a "Trotskyite"? You should learn what words mean before you use them like bumper stickers. It's time we outlawed hyperbole in favor of actual communication, before the language starts to sound like DNC talking points.
===================

If you knew what a Trotskyite was, you would not doubt GW Bush is a party member, at least to his associates, policies and globalist world view.

You need to dig a lot deeper into GW Bush than you have.
He is definitely a promoter of Trotsky's views.
Things are not close to what they appear to you on the surface.

Just one article but has plenty info in it to check out what GW was up to that was never reported
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j111003.html

Hey elvis



elvis writes: - 8:17 PM EST
Talent Scout,TOhio,Denise
Talent scout, boy it is good to see you post!
I take medical "time off" and come back and forth, been worried about you! Iam really relieved to see your name again! Take care!
===================

Good to see you too buddy.
I have been pretty busy with other matters and had no time for the board.
Besides, politics are really beginning to **** me off.
This snake in the WH is too much to have to deal with, besides all his dishonest lying supporters.
I been well, how about you?

talent scout..ha ha ha
Knowing you are a very good guy I will think
something sorta nice in place of those ****!
HA HA HA! A friend of mine told me GOLF was a
four letter word! Chuckle.
Iam hanging in there..just keep taking those many pills and watch my diet, be nice to the pets and the wife and I may live a little longer than I expected back in 2006!
But I too have some very pertinent things that are going to take some time..family matters!
I have to repeat it is always good reading your fiery stuff...DREAMBOAT! ha ha ha.
Elvis

Denise again
Iam home but..serious illnes(cancer) in family is going to take me out of the picture for a while !
Thanks for the info! What kind of vote does it take to get the job done in the senate?

I WILL REMEMBER YOU...hawaiian(sp) concert!
tcb...
Elvis

ELVIS
ROB from Louisiana.
Good to here from you again.
How have you been.Hope everything turns out o.k.
Good luck with all those new taxes in Cal.HaHa.
I'd still like to see Duncan Hunter Govenor out
there.

WELL STAY SAFE,

ROB

ROB from La.
Good to hear from you,too!
Duncan...ohhhh yeah!
But this gal from billionaire city(friend of Mitt) is going to run! I think she was interviwed by Beck..and she said she is not for off shore drilling...Beck looked at her w/evil
eye!Thanks for the cheerful note--taxes!
Phhbttdd! ha ha ha.
Elvis

Brilliant Buchanan - better than 5 star!
The LBJ comparison is amazing! I was thinking more along the lines of Castro as an earlier responder mentions. No doubt our Kenyan friend is trying to go from 0 to 60 in 4 seconds. He and his small band of socialists have truly taken off at bullet speed. We could barely afford the socialist shennagins (which were all abysmal failures)of LBJ and we absolutely positively cannot afford to be the next Cuba now!

I see some irony that just as our dear poor Cuban neighbors finally see the possibility of capitalist hope after oh so many years of suffering, we find ourselves staring down the same path they took in 1959. God help us!

GWB disciple of LBJ?

Jerabaub...interesting analogy between Bush and LBJ...must be something about that Texas....Cow Manure..or...El Toro Pooh Pooh ????:O)
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