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Friday, October 10, 2008
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Can McCain Still Win?
by Pat Buchanan
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Two weeks after the Republican convention in St. Paul, Minn., John McCain and Sarah Palin were striding forward toward victory.

They had erased the eight-point lead Barack Obama had opened up in Denver and watched as one blue state after another moved into the toss-up category.

That is ancient history now.

Since mid-September, the stock market has cratered, losing half of the $8 trillion that has vanished since October 2007. All five of America's great investment banks -- Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, Merrill-Lynch, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley -- have either ceased to be independent or ceased to be.

The nation's largest savings and loan, Washington Mutual, and largest insurance company, AIG, have gone belly up, with the federal bailout of the latter costing $100 billion and counting. Perhaps $3 trillion of the $8 trillion in stock value that is gone disappeared after passage of the $700 billion federal bailout of Wall Street.

No bottom is in sight to the worst market crash since 1929. Recession is now certain. George W. Bush has fallen to 26 percent approval, a level unseen since Richard Nixon was driven from office in the Watergate summer of '74. Four in five think the nation is on the wrong course.

Yet, Obama has only a six-point lead in an averaging of national polls. While he has moved ahead in Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and Virginia, one senses America is not so much rallying to him as running away from a Republican brand that is now on the same shelf with Chinese baby formula.

Obama still has not closed the sale. He has overtaken McCain not because of any brilliant campaign he has conducted but because of the dreadful news pouring out of Wall Street. McCain and Palin are being dragged down by Dow Jones, not Barack Obama.

As of today, the country is not so much voting for Barack and the Democrats as it is preparing to vote against the Republicans.

Consider: The Congress, whose Democratic ranks the nation is getting ready to enlarge -- the Congress led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid -- has an approval rating half that of Bush.

Indeed, looking back on the Year of Barack, 2008, it is clear he has never closed the sale, either with the people or his own party.

After he came off the blocks with a startling triumph in Iowa and ran up a dozen straight primary and caucus victories in February, arrived the spring when Hillary, though Obama's media auxiliary was ordering her to get out, defeated him in Texas, crushed him in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and humiliated him in West Virginia and Kentucky.

Each time the voters take a long second look at Barack, their positive first impressions seem to dissipate. Barack is a weak closer.

Herein lies McCain's hope. The country wants change, but it has not concluded it wants Obama. But if John McCain cannot raise grave doubts about his agenda, his associates, his record, his character, his fitness to be president, Obama is going to win by default.

Obama has succeeded in the debates by playing defense. By his cool demeanor and persona, he has diminished apprehensions about an Obama presidency. There is no evidence of surging enthusiasm.

The Obama media are well aware of Obama's Achilles' heel, his great vulnerability, the doubts about him that still exist in the public mind. That is why they are near hysterical about Palin's ripping of Obama for "palling around" with "domestic terrorists" like William Ayres, the 1960s and 1970s Weatherman radical who conspired to bomb the Capitol and Pentagon and was quoted the morning of 9-11 as saying he wished he had set off more bombs.

The mainstream media call this irrelevant, as it was so long ago.

Yet, can one imagine how the media would have reacted had they learned that a GOP presidential nominee was introduced to politics and worked in harness with a KKK bomber of black churches in the 1960s, who was quoted the morning of Oklahoma City as saying he wished he had planted more bombs?

As McCain is an establishment man on illegal aliens, NAFTA and Wall Street bailouts, uneasy with social issues like affirmative action and abortion, he lacks the full panoply of weapons that successful Republicans like Nixon, Ronald Reagan and Bush II used to win two terms. He seems to confine himself to the limited arsenal Gerald Ford, Bush 1 and Bob Dole employed when they went down to defeat.

This election is not over. Yet, even if McCain gets a bit of luck, a dead cat bounce on Wall Street, he must persuade the nation Obama is an unacceptable occupant of the White House if he is to win.

Palin appears ready to take the heat to make that case. But McCain seems ambivalent to the point of being bipolar on whether he wants to take responsibility for peeling the hide off Barack Obama.

Perhaps it comes down to what McCain really thinks about an Obama presidency, and how he wants to be remembered by history.

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Both candidates are horrendous!!!
It would be something if the American people would take their disapproval ratings and just not vote, or at worst vote 3rd party, preferably libertarian.

Bush is dazed and confused....a man just going through motions parroting what he is being told by his advisors. His legacy is toast, he will be remembered like Hoover.

McBama will only make matters worse.

You can forget about being anti-illegals
It's a losing formula in the general election.

There are simply too many Hispanic voters today -- far more than white anti-illegal aliens crusaders.

Fight with us, McCain!!!
I feel the media is the one to blame with their bias. They've torn Sarah to shreds and I believe in my heart that none of the main street media really believe Obama would make a decent president (including Joe Biden). If Obama wins I fear for our great country. In my estimation the main stream media is sacrificing their country just to make sure a Republican isn't elected. They are beyond deplorable!! I guess they fit right in with Obamas'ideology.

Christine


The Democrats are Guilty!
All McCain has to do to win this election is start informing the voters on which party is guilty of creating this economic mess!

The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!
The Democrats are guilty!!!

GOP is DOA
too bad the party was hi-jacked by BIG GOV statists.

Pat already nailed it in a aug 29th column: "If Obama wins, the country could be in real trouble. And if he loses, the country could be in real trouble."

Bottom line is we're in real trouble. Too bad Baldwin or Barr couldn't win this round, we'd all be MUCH better off for it.



McCain is Campaigning Like A Loser
Unfortunately, I believe McCain is campaigning from a position of fear of losing - and then what? - he has to return to the Senate after having alienated the Democrats? And lose he and we all will, if he doesn't muster the gumption to fight for this election with unchecked passion, as if the only tomorrow he's afraid of, is one with Obama as president.

McCain cannot expect Sarah Palin, wonderful as she is, to carry the water alone. McCain MUST, as Pat says, be prepared to strip the hide from Obama's lies and distortions, exposing the raw bloody mess beneath so that every true American - pauses - and THINKS before casting a vote for Obama.

And if he isn't willing to "get down in the mud" and do battle - McCain deserves to lose this election. But, God help us, America doesn't deserve Obama.

McCain is Campaigning Like A Loser
I believe, in his heart, McCain thinks he will lose and he's scared to go back to the Senate if he's been "too nasty".

McCain is lame...
but Palin is the real deal...she will be THE reason the Repubs win....not McCain....McCain lost his courage or left it in Vietnam or something, not willing to fight and....giving illegals amnesty?

WTF is up with that?

I recall Ayers and his B.S. well..and his wife...former SDS leader if I remember correctly! Seen them on many FBI mug shots at the post office....lol...

Robert!!
So are you going with the silver-tongued empty suit?

Christine

Financial mess
Started in clintons' last year in office, democrats pushed a house for everyone illegals, non qualifiers and mortgage writers , banks, were eager to give guranteed gov. money to them. Why in hell does mccain allow the democraps to associate him with bush and not say anything about barney frank, dodd, pelosi or the rest of the scum democraps.

Chant: BURN YOUR BRIDGES, McCain!
Burn Your Bridges, McCain, Burn Your Bridges!

What in hell does your standing in the Senate mean if you end up being the man who lost America to Obama?

We, The American People, will never forgive you, McCain, NEVER!


McCain is ailing
"Perhaps it comes down to what McCain really thinks about an Obama presidency, and how he wants to be remembered by history."

Therein lies the truth! This has been my fear all along, and Pat B. nailed it. All those years of bipartisan politics and getting along so famously with the "other side of the aisle" left McCain without strong convictions, and we're seeing evidence of that now. As Buchanan so astutely suggested, McCain might not think Obama will be a bad president,hence his inexplicable declaration in Wisconsin today that he and Sen.Obama have a good plans to fix the economy.

Personally, I think McCain has lost it, both mentally and physically. He's going under before our eyes. What else can explain his bizarre performance at the debates,his very limited campaign schedule, weird outbursts like I previously mentioned,his seeming disconnect between the reality of being behind in the polls, and what it takes to win? Sadly, you can see him trembling when he speaks and breathing heavily. He is obviously not a well man, and really had no business running for president in the first place.

McCain Has Class
McCain is reluctant to discuss this stuff because he has all that history in the Senate. And in the Senate, you don't talk about stuff like an association with Ayers. It just isn't done.

In the House, yes. But not in the Senate.

McCain needs to get over that but I'm not sure he can.

http://blog.topicaltopics.net/2008/10/reports-on-obama-ayer s-khalidi-connection/

Seeing as the GOP has revealed itself
to be full of socialists (how else do you describe the advocation of government owning banks, which own the means of production?)... I don't see myself voting for them for POTUS this time.

Pat correctly states that "the country is not so much voting for Barack and the Democrats as it is preparing to vote against the Republicans."

Fortunately, there is a way to vote against the GOP without voting for the Dems - third parties. I'm leaning toward Baldwin, but Barr is also a far superior choice to McCain.

I suppose I'll hold my nose and vote for GOP big-spender Sessions for re-election to the senate - we'll need as many republicans as possible there if Obama wins - even if they fall short of being truly conservative. At least Sessions was outspoken against both the bailout and McCain's amnesty.

Too bad Palin couldn't head the ticket. Her I'd be happy to vote for.

THE GREAT REPUBLICAN CONVERGENCE

This Election Day November 4th will see a cyclical phenomenon unprecedented in the annals of American presidential politics: the historic convergence of two Republican election cycles for presidential candidates. One cycle stretches back 140 years, the other 120 years. The former is composed of six 28 year cycles, the later of four 40 year cycles. Both cycles began in years that end in the number 8, were initiated by two military heroes born in Ohio (where the McCain-Palin ticket was born) and saw at the start of their last cyclic rounds the election of two candidates from the West (where McCain and Palin come from). This cyclical phenomenon is just one of many compelling signs indicating victory for John McCain and Sarah Palin in November.

Click ApolloSpeaks and read my piece "John McCain, Hero of Destiny: Signs of Republican Victory," and see these marvels for yourself.




Damned if he does...
... and damned if he doesn't. During the last debate McCain simply pointed to Obama & said 'That one!' And for that the race-baiters are on the move against him. Obama can compare McCain to Jesse Jackson, yet if McCain so much as mentions Jackson he'll be labeled a racist.

Much needs to be said, but if he uncorks he loses. Truly disgusting entities, like Letterman & the NY Times are already hammering him. They don't need more ammo. I suspect he considers it his patriotic duty to keep his temper in check. He is a good man, and, having had to deal with a similar temperament, I admire him. I also look forward to the day he enters the White House.

McCain Has to Come Out Swinging Harder
... With the Reformers' hatchet. He's got to not only pin down Obama on his associations with radicals like Ayers, Wright, ACORN & Khalid al-Mansour. He's also got to go after Congress and Bush but especially Congress, and he's got to move aggressively to promote an economic plan that spurs real growth.

Adopting the FairTax and demanding the line item veto would be good start. It wouldn't hurt to start making some Dems in Congress more famous too.

He's also got to start painting Obama as the dangerous Socialist that he is and not as simply an inexperienced opponent. This election is not just about the economy, it's really a choice between Socialism and Freedom, America as we know it or America as William Ayers, Rev Wright and the Radical Left imagine it should be. McCain has to start acknowledging that and spelling it out to the American people. He has to show himself to be a man of his word and follow up on his convention challenge to "FIGHT, FIGHT!" FIGHT for our Country First.


Obama is pathetic
McCain could win if he knew how to campaign but he does not have a clue. Obama has given McCain so much ammunition but McCain does not know how to fire it and his staff must be equally inept. McCain apparently felt since he had so much more experience than Obama all he had to do was show up and people would vote for him over Obama. Not so fast. Obama is has 99% of the racist black vote, a large portion of the white guilt vote, and a lamestream media giving him non-stop free endorsements.

Neither McCain or his campaign staff were able to size up the power of the entire black race and the white guilters which gives Obama a huge base to work with that will not ever move from him. They also failed to understand that the media's endorsement of Obama meant that since the media will not ferrot out all of Obama's radical long-term ties with scumbags and Obama's inexperience then it was paramount that McCain do the media's work for them. McCain failed to do the media's work and failed to take it to Obama. McCain effectively punted away the presidency.

Could it be...
that because Bush and his cabal of brainless cronies have pushed America within an inch of bankruptcy that the Republicans and neo-cons don't WANT to win, so Obama will be left holding this pile of sh*t?

By the way, isn't nationalizing financial companies a sort of a socialist/communist way of dealing with a problem? Has Bush been taking advice from Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, or Castro of Cuba.

Isn't giving $56 Billion of soft (read 'free') loans to the auto industry 'to catch up' with the foreign competition also a somewhat socialist idea? The East German government subsidized their auto industry and what did they get? The ridiculous Trabi, that's what.

The reasons why McPain will lose is not because of Obama, it's because of Bush & Co.

And...
Why aren't, Chaney, Condi, Rumsfeld, Rove, Gonzales, Ashcroft or any of the others neo-cons marching, waving the flag of freedom and campaigning for McCain? Because they are scared, they are hiding under rocks, because they know they are despised by 90% of Americans and would just be liabilities for ANY republican candidate.

Way to go! Shouldn't we be ashamed of our administration that things have come this far?

LetsAllRelax
I think you almost nailed it. It should be plainly obvious that the GOP had absolutely no intentions of winning this year. Over a year ago, you could see the movement of the reliably neo-con leaders moving over to the democratic candidates. All those same voices you cheered on for years in support of what you THOUGHT were conservative intellectuals you will hear spouting off the praises of liberal/socialist government under the dems. To them, party doesn't matter. They just attach themselves to whatever party is in power at the time. They have their own agenda entirely.

Why is that, nearly to a person, every one of these neocon leaders were admitted ex-marxists in the McCarthy days? So much so, that I can't actually think of one that wasn't.

This is far bigger than the super-ficial fight between Reps and Dems. A fight that, in reality, doesn't exist. There will ALWAYS be bipartisanism when something bad for you and I and the country comes up for vote.

Who still believes this isn't all intentional? Please come forth so we can put an idiot sign on you to warn others.

Hi Videx...
Sadly, the only real contender against any democratic nominee, and one many democrats would have voted for as well, was torpedoed by the republican neo-cons because he was too fair, intelligent, honest, honorable - but most galling to these traitors - he was to uppity, would have been Colin Powell.
But after the going in front of the UN and spouting garbage he was told was 'real intelligence' his chances were zeroed. Pure sabotage.

McCain is paralyzed by political correct
McCain is paralyzed by political correctness. How else can one explain his reluctance to use Reverend Wright, Obama’s racist anti -American Preacher whose church he attended for 20 years?
He’s paralyzed with fear that if he mentions him he will be called a racist for doing so.

McCain's Last Battle
We should put the onus on the coming debacle where it belongs on those Republicans who blindly, slavishly, always nominate the next Republican nominee in line just like they voted for another veteran, Bob Dole. But Dole, a respected veteran, was over as is John McCain. Where is the passion against Bill Ayers, a man fighting his own country while McCain, fighting heroically FOR the same country, was an unwelcome guest in Hanoi Hilton trying to survive from day to day.

The Senate has sponged all the fire out of McCain's belly. He is no longer the Annapolis rebel who broke every rule but a tired old man suffocated by the gentlemanly rules of the Senate while his fellow senators, supposedly tied to the same rules, draw and quarter him.

Let's see some passion from this old warrior in this one last fight before he fades away into history. A rank opportunist with his radical associates and no experience in executive leadership is making a mockery of the old warrior.

What is at stake here?
McCain wasn't my first choice... heck, he wasn't even my second choice. My choices were Huckabee and Duncan. That being said, I'll vote for McCain/Palin because the Democratic nominee is just too horrendous an option to consider for simply one reason - FOCA (Freedom of Choice Act). Obama promised Planned Parenthood to make passage of this bill his first priority. Government sanctioned abortion on demand paid for by your tax dollars is the New Health Care proposal on the books if he is elected. The bans on Partial Birth Abortion, Born Alive Bill, Parental Notification, Medicaid and Military Abortions laws are repealed. Stopping this from happening supercedes any concerns I have about my 401K, my job, my concerns about unfair trade, or illigal immigration. What doth it profit a man if he gain the whole world but lose his own soul? How we defend the innocent defines who we are as a people and as a nation.

SavageNation Party
Michael Savage announced on his radio show last night that he is going to start a new political party. Within two years, he believes it could have enough candidates elected at the grassroots to really shake things up and start taking the country back from the thieves in the Rep and Dem parties. The platform of the SavageNation Party? "Borders, Language, and Culture." I urge everyone who's serious about fixing the problems of this country to find out more about it and support it if he does follow through with it. We need someone with his intelligence and fearlessness to launch this, as well as his well-placed and very large audience of supporters.

The culprit in all of this is America
Yes, ever so slow but surely America has fallen in love with pure Socialism/Communism and a little later turning to Imperialism, as sure as hell exists.

Can America rid itself from this real cancer? Never ever and America will by necessity keep on a Titanic voyage like, heading for the iceberg it created by itself and for itself. However, and like all previous Empires blames every other nation for all her own internal evils it faces.

Whose fault is it that up to 40 million illegals have now America, truly on her throat chocking her to death? Yes, 9/11 made in America by America for America in the "shop" of absolute lawlessness/anarchy with the Commander in Chief its foreman. Yes, these illegals kept comming and sttill do, really at the request of so called law abiding citizens, right?

Just read what the Founding Fathers left as a legacy and you will find my comment per above to be just about right on the mark! Yes within that Socialism/Communism plus Imperialims it is, that America's economy has melted!

And would one know here appears George W. with Paulson telling America that the only solution is to in really, swindling America's next generation. Yes, Thomas Jefferson said this and he kept right screaming the same words with even greater intensity: "The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, in the name of funding, is but swingling futurity on a large scale".

Good luck America on this ride to hell! Stop blaming the world and keep your big nose at home as ordered by the Founding Fathers.

OBAMA: SATAN'S CANDIDATE
Obama is without question the most thoroughly wicked man ever to run for president of our nation. As a Christian systematic theologian, I have studied him carefully and come to the firm conclusion that Obama is quite literally Satan's candidate for president. He is both empowered and inspired by Satan himself, and probably hand picked for the task of destroying the US as a Constitutional Republic. Only a mighty effort by multitudes of Christian prayer warriors asking God to expose Obama's wickedness can defeat him and save our nation from eventual ruin.

Get the message out ! : Drill Drill

McCain needs to blast the airwaves with the
critical message:

DRILL for Jobs, save the nation's economy !

Obama, Pelosi, Reid will NOT DRILL or build critical energy needs

Everyone must get out the vote: spend a mere few hours :

IGNORE THE PHONY POLLS, they are all in the bag for Obama:

Just shut up and "DRILL" ! "Build" !

McCain can will if he pumps the airwaves with I WILL DRILL

OBAMA WILL NOT !

Like Germany ! so goes the USA !

History anyone ?

When germany hit the skids, they elected HITLER

the people will elect Obama who will destroy this nation forever !

Folks need to spend just a few hours to get out the vote !

We Can beat cheating, lying, dangerous Obama

Disband the FBI
If the FBI was an honest broker in this election, it would long ago have announced Obama could not get the Security Clearance required to be President. An appropriate background investigation into his political dealings with Ayers, Reverend Wright and others would not only deny him a security clearance and keep him from having access to Secret or Top Secret documents, plans, and Nuclear Release orders and procedures; it is doubtful Obama would be cleared to buy a shotgun from his local gun dealer. This man cannot be trusted and all reading this with Security Clearance experience know I am right.

B2slim
don't you mean, "..We Can beat cheating, lying, dangerous Bush"?

The Election Is Over
It was over when Hillary got beat and free everything won the day. McShame is a complete loser, known for a long time. His two friends, Lieberman and The Little Jerk are all that he has. He has worked the mic and camera for years to be a maverick and now he is pretty much alone save for his two friends. The Obama will smash all that is left of the republic.

Socialism
Who in hell would turn a vote over to Obama? Don't we all know that he is not a true American? Aren't we all aware of his sketchy past and his marxist leanings? WAKE UP AMERICA!!! CIVILIZATION WAITS.

OBAMA: SATAN'S CANDIDATE
ColinCody: I agree with you--am totally shocked
and disgusted with the furor of the Obaminites!!
Anyone with half a "grey cell" can readily see
Obama's running for the Presidency has been
carefully orgistrated for many many years by
very unscrupulous people who want to destroy the
America we LOVE!! Just look at all his associat-ions (scum of the earth), listen to Obama's lies
as he tries to explain them (he must think we
are all idiots!),look at his connections to ACORN and how they have contaminated the election by "stacking the deck" in Obama's favor
and look at the Senate Bill sponsored by Obama
( "Global Poverty Act",S2433 ) which if passed
would be DISASTEROUS for America!!!! ( Biden is
involved in it ). The bill MUST be killed--all
the Early Votes should be negated (all those voters can go back to the polls when the rest of
us vote)--all the media & journalists NEED to
HONESTLY do their jobs & strip Obama to the bone
EXPOSING his true Character & ALL his dirty little secrets--then MAYBE everybody will WAKE
UP IN TIME TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!

Change
Whether McCain or Obama is elected, keep in mind that nations often go in one direction, and then having made mistakes, go in another. Losses often become opportunities for the loser. For the next several years, the US is going to struggle economically - and it doesn't matter who the President is. Further, much of what these candidates currently try to say they will do will be affected by the fact that we're entering a recession, and we will not see the light at the end of this tunnel for up to several years - at best.

Both our role in the world, and the demographic makeup of the US is rapidly changing. At one point we were a melting pot made up primarily of Europeons, whereas in the future, we will be a melting pot made up literally - of the world. In 25 years, 1/2 of America and more, after all, will be African, Asian, Arabic and Hispanic ancestory.

In combination with this, the era of the dollar as the world's trading currency, and the era of Wall Street being the leading capital engine for the world is coming to an end. Our economy and our corporations are now dependent upon the actions of numerous other markets and countries. And many of those countries have been financing our deficits and our spending - and we can no longer dictate to them. We are no longer partners with only Europe, but the ownership of so much of our debt by China and Japan, and our need to continue to borrow huge sums from them to finance our deficits and what will be our economic recovery, have made us partners with them as well.

This, in turn, limits our military options.

We will, of course, come through it. But, from where I sit, there is far more going on than the issue of who the next President is.
And no President can change this trajectory. At one point we could survive primarily on our own, now, we no longer can. And that's the difference today.

Cont'd.

The Global economy now exerts as much influence and power over Americans, as does their own elected leadership. Indeed, often more.

As I read about the talking points of these candidates, I'm reminded only that all is illusion.

Internally, increasing numbers of Americans have become dependent upon our government, and externally, our government has become dependent on other governments.

And these candidates, who sit here and talk about "I", will inevitably find that they will when, once in office, be confronted with "we".

We are, in sum, voting for only one element of this equation. We will have a President - but that President, as Bush has found out, will be subject to the Congress, to the Courts, and to the Global Economy.

And that simply ensures that we will almost certainly be disappointed in either of these candidates downstream.

"Money Changes Everything"
I think it was Cindi Lauper sometime back who had a hit song entitled, "Money Changes Everything."

Some people cling desperately to Obama's associations in the past as causing sufficient unease among the voter to overcome fear over the economic collapse...and his rapidly disappearing life savings.

I don't think it will work in this atmosphere.

I freely concede both Democrats and Republicans share in culpability for our financial catastrophe.

Clinton admin. pressured banks to make unsound loans to the poor("throwing bones" to its constituency).

Bush promoted his "Ownership Society" program, which supported home ownership among the poor as a means to induce more "personal responsibility"..if you own it, you care more about it.

Democrat Barney Frank as recently as a year or so ago declared there was no need to regulate F&F.

And F&F problems certainly contributed to our catastrophe.

But the deregulatory culture within the GOP also has led to an irresponsibility on Wall Street and in the financial community, manifested by banks taking on unprecedented amounts of debt absent sufficient equity.

Were there regulations in place that addressed this issue?

Were they ignored?

Were they legislated out of existence?

Perhaps some of this debt were ill-advised mortgages banking institutions made to the poor, but in a deregulatory atmosphere it was hawked by schemers, packaged into trendy "financial instruments", and foisted onto other banking institutions, who now hold bad paper which undermines their, and the entire industry's, financial solvency.

Buchanan is Wrong - McCain Has Lost!

Pat Buchanan needs to get out and talk to regular people, not just Right-wing Radicals and Conservatives like Charles Keating and G. Gordon Liddy.

McCain has NO CHANCE of winning. Americans see him for what he is: old, angry, tired, pathetic and Bush's 3rd term.

And, McCain's choice of Sarah Palin, the unqualified hockey mom, "put the nail on the coffin" of the Republican ticket.

I encourage the McCain Campaign to keep the focus on Obama's ties. The more they do that, the more that most Americans see McCain as erratic and out of touch with Americans' major concerns.

P.S.- John, check to see if Cindy has any of her stolen pain pills remaining; you will probably need them in coming weeks.

Why not make lemonade?
Even the die-hard McCainiacs are now admitting that McCain is a lemon. The fact today, as it has been every day, since he became the "presumptive" nominee, is McCain cannot win.

The other inescapable fact is, an Obama presidency will be a disaster for America. Ladies and gentleman we are in for a very rough ride in the near-term.

There are other choices on the ballot. Choose one! Stop quaking in fear over Barack's imminent election.

Stand up, make your vote count for something. You can't stop Obama the Marxist, but you do not have to waste your vote on McCain the socialist. I will vote for Bob Barr, because I support The Constitution, and the ideals that founded this nation. But even voting for the want-to-be theocrats of the misnamed "Constitution" Party is better than wasting your vote on McCain.

John McCain must confront Mr. Obama
In 1996 during one of the debates Bob Dole was supposed to go after Bill Clinton and list all the scandals against him, Whitewater, Travelgate,etc.. During the debate Bob Dole did not go after Clinton. After the debate Bob Dole said that he couldn't do it. The rest is history. The history being Monica Lewisky, China gate, etc. Let's not see history repeat itself again in 2008. Therefore McCain needs to confront Obama face to face during the debate.

THE UNTHINKABLE!

Total control!

Liberals, who already control our news, our entertainment and our culture, are on the verge of gaining complete control.

That's what it's about. It's not the economy or terrorists the left cares about. Not one bit. It's America they want! The America of Townhall. The America of Sarah Palin. The Traditional and Conservative America. That's what they plan to end.

If they get this power, they'll set up the machinery to continue not just through 2012, but also through 2016. Don't think they can't do it.

It's unthinkable and on the verge of happening!

NOT TO PAT: Tell that to MSNBC tonight. They'd fire you on the spot, but at least you'd leave with some dignity.

Apollo Speaks
I attempted to access your blog but could not. Can you please post the link.

Also for everyone see the website http://www.wayneperryman.com/

Rev. Wayne Perryman is an African-American who makes the case that Bush has done a lot for this country, which is totally ignored by the Socialist-Marxist-Democrats.

For example the evidence of WMD in Iraq was first presented by the President Clinton & Sec. of State Albright in February 1998. The World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993 and the Clinton Administration did nothing to prevent further damage to America. AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR AMERICA & THE WORLD MUCH LIKE THE RISE OF HITLER IN GERMANY IN THE 1920's.

Jerabaub States...........
"But the deregulatory culture within the GOP also has led to an irresponsibility on Wall Street and in the financial community, manifested by banks taking on unprecedented amounts of debt absent sufficient equity.

Were there regulations in place that addressed this issue?"

Jerabub: PLEASE keep in mind the branch of government which is charged by law with regulating the banking industry...including Fannie and Freddie is CONGRESS.

PLENTY of warnings were given Congress over the past 24-36 months: Greenspan, McCain, Shay, etc. - with Dems on record as saying:
"Fannie Mae is on sound financial footing" (Barney Frank);

"You pi*s me off coming here telling us we're not doing our job properly as regulators" (Dem committee member to federal auditor)

"Fannie is doing so much good work (i.e. buying subprime mortgages of people who can't afford them)WE SHOULD ROLL THE DICE WITH FANNIE MAE NO MATTER ITS FINANCIAL STABILITY (Barney Frank less than 10 months ago).

Brian:
No significant number of voters cares a whit about Obama's associations. How many times does a strategy have to fail before you see it as a failure?

LAST BEST HOPE MAY BE THE BERG SUIT
I, too, am discouraged, to say the least, about the way the campaign is going. It's tough to hold out hope that some of the myriad charges against Obama will stick, so as to nail him at the end.

One thing that may throw this election into chaos, and deny Obama the Oval Office is the Berg lawsuit. If it blows, it'll be the bomb that rocked the world.

Read all about it: http://www.obamacrimes.com

Sarah Promoted Anti-Government Militia

McCain cannot win because he chose a radical right winger, Sarah Palin.

For an example of how radical she is, did you see that Palin closely supported the former head of the radical Alaska Independent Party so that the state's constitution would allow the development of ANTI-GOVERNMENT MILITIAS.

In addition, Sarah attended two of the secessionist group's AIP's annual conventions.

Read the indepth Salon.com story today at:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/ index.html

MSNBC covered this story last night. Palin is one scary right-wing radical hockey mom.

Ouch
"...a Republican brand that is now on the same shelf with Chinese baby formula."

It's hard to say when Pat is more painful... when he's wrong or (as here) correct.

Michael
Your fixation is fine, but focussing on only one element of a far more complex issue will solve nothing. There were many contributors, and many reasons - as many conservative economists are routinely saying - if only you'd stop getting all of your talking points from partisans. No one says that F&F were not a part of the problem. But you cannot absolve lenders who did not - after all have to write subprime loans for the 75% of the public unrelated to CRA's who took them out. You equally, cannot ignore the fact that lenders justified the far larger area of non sub-prime lending based upon inflated housing assessments that they knew could not be sustained - and would have to collapse. You ignore the fact, equally, that Credit Default Swaps were a form of insurance created to provide the illusion that it didn't matter what was in those "mortgage packaged as securities", as they were insured. Nor that the primary reason this was created in the first place is that it allowed the investment bankers like Lehman's to pretend that they no longer had any liability, and to remove that debt from their books. And that this then enabled them to take on far more "debt", and do the same thing all over. Eventually, they didn't remotely have enough assets to deal with this. And, of course, it also doesn't deal with the fact that the treasury department did not have to change the rule that required lenders to have $1 in assets for each $12.50 in debt, to enabling them to have $1 in assets for each $30 in debt. And this was done just 3 years ago. And, of course, it also doesn't absolve the Federal Reserve board from having continued pumping cheap money into the economy for far too long as well.


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The GOP Legacy
We agree with McCain that he came to change Washington and Washington changed him. The legacy of this current crop of GOP hair brains is nation building, death, hatred, and now socialism. These folks need to be branded on election day and put out to pasture. .........
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/09/the-gop-legacy-wars-d eath-hatred-socialism/

Cont'd.
If the treasury had simply kept the asset to debt rule in place, none of these investment banks would be bankrupt today, as their total debt would have been only 40% of what they now have.

If the fed had raised interest rates in the spring of 05, rather than 06, 1/3 of the inflation in housing that took place would never have happened.

If banks had not extended sub prime loans to the 75% of those they issued that were not targeted by CFA's, they would have only 1/4 of the debt they now have on sub-primes.

If banks had acted sensibly when the bubble blew up, and been realistic in their assessments of properties to include the correction in values that that they knew had to happen, they would have easily cut their exposure in 1/2.

Congress with F&F, the Treasury who let the investment banks almost triple their debt to asset ratio's, the refusal of the Fed and the Treasury to regulate CDA's, lenders who threw out their risk standards on all of their lending, not just CDA areas, and the Fed who kept pumping money into a rapidly expanding housing bubble, are responsible.

Wake up my friend. Anyone of these entities could have stopped this from happening. None did.

The system failed. Everyone element. We have checks and balances in the real world. In this case, they all evaporated.

Michael, 3 quotes from bloggers.
1. "6% of mortgages going into default should not have threatened the entire economy the way it has. It did because of the bets (insurance) against mortgage defaults, i.e., the credit-default swaps, were valued too highly and when the mortgages started to default, the CDSs fell in value. That brought down Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, AIG, etc. Had the CDSs been regulated or, depending on how you look at it, had the banks not specifically avoided regulation by hiding CDSs from regulators, their failure wouldn’t have threatened the entire economy".

2."Obama may be wrong in placing most of the blame on deregulation in and of itself. But in saying, as he did during the debate, that 'we still have an archaic 20th-century regulatory system in place for 21st-century financial markets,' he appears to have a point".


3."The story is probably less about deregulation than lack of regulation due to financial 'innovation' outpacing regulation: ludicriously-overleveraged derivative products that no one, not even at the end their own buyers and sellers, could understand."

I think the 2nd and 3rd especially have relevance.

Redlac
Your comments about change are spot-on.

Perhaps a silver lining to our new economic reality will be a rejection of expensive neocon interventionist schemes abroad.

We no longer can afford them.

And I won't miss those days.

What we do undertake will be done in conjunction with others.

Those parts of the Bush doctrine dealing with preemption and unilateralism will be discarded, except in extremely rare circumstances.

I think even Bush has acknowledged as much(tho his recognition did not occur as a result of new economic realities as much as in perceiving they did not work, or had very negative consequences).

OBAMA WILL HAVE TWO YEARS TO WREAK
.....HAVOC ON THE COUNTRY ...

.....OBAMA will prove to be such a radical disater in his first one hundred days that Conservatives will recoil in horror and there will be a backlash in the 2010 mid-term election to get enough Republicans in Congress to restrain the Marxist beast ...

.....This will set up a Conservative victory in 2012 and Obama will be a one term President ...

.....This is why I believe that an Obama victory this year might be just the enema that the Country needs to regain its senses .....Palin/anybody in 2012 .....COLOSSUS

Regulation is not a solution
The only regulation necessary in a free-market economy is a fair and accessible court system.

Obama To Win, Says Yale Forecast

A Yale professor who has correctly forecast the winners of the past three Presidential elections, says Obama will win next month with 52 percent of the vote.

See story at: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aPnl.m 5.6Sa8&refer=
latin_america

Bye, bye, John and Sarah.


It's the economy, stupid
Americans have now lost half their nest eggs which they had invested in the stock market.

And they're going to blame the guy in the White House, and his party. That means the GOP.

That's all they care about. Who can best fix the economy.

My own 401(k) has been decimated.

If I thought William Ayers could fix the economy, I would even vote for him.

There is a God!!!
The last time I spoke to God, a minute ago, He said He's still on His Throne! Anything can happen in this election. If Americans continue to ignore God, and His Son Jesus Christ, and this nation doesn't repent and turn back to HIM, instead of denying HIM, we won't need to worry about our economy-- there won't be one! Yes, Obama is a Deceiver, and many people blinded to that fact have fallen into his camp. God help them! God help us! God help America!!!

why some Obama supporters are upset
There are two big reasons that Obama supporters are upset about Palin connecting Obama with Ayers:

(1) The implication is simply false. Obama is not a terrorist and it is a terrible thing to say about a US Senator.

(2) Some of the McCain/Palin rallies are so angry that they seem to want to kill people. This is extremely upsetting.

Mr. Buchanan, you were able, I believe, to admire how Obama spoke to ALL Americans when he accepted his party's nomination at the DNC. I hope you will work to heal the nation if he wins the nomination.

There are grave problems facing the US and we will all need to work together.

Steve I hope your wrong
but you are probably right. If the voters don't think past the present to the future, we will be in for socialism in the US until the next revolution. I expect that will be 8 years. During that time replacing congress with conservative economic values instead of socialism is a must. A conservative congress is the only way to give americia back to the people.

Insightful Truth
I agree with you on McCain.

And you are correct, in my modest opinion, that not many people will care about Obama's past associations. McCain will not gain much by dredging up past associations as Americans see all that they worked for disappear before their very eyes.

In fact, it may enrage them that McCain is not at least rhetorically addressing this problem, and instead is talking about ageing radicals.

It just demonstrates how desperate and out-of-touch is the McCain camp.

But on your point that "the only regulation necessary in a free-market economy is the court system", must be very comforting to the thousands of Enron folks who were looted out of their life savings by those rascals in charge of Enron.

I am not a fan of too much regulation.

It does stifle innovation.

But targeted and intelligent regulation is required in this world.

We just have to be careful not to spread it on too thick.

A good spoof on bureaucracy and regulation-run a-muck, is the movie "Brazil".

Can John McCain still win?
"... one senses America is not so much rallying to him as running away from a Republican brand that is now on the same shelf with Chinese baby formula.
...
As of today, the country is not so much voting for Barack and the Democrats as it is preparing to vote against the Republicans."

That just about sums it up, Pat. OsiSpeaks.com

Dirt or Turth
I keep hearing about the republicans bringing up dirt. In my Opinion we have waited to long to bring up the TRUTH. Obama is a very shady man!
He won't let anyone look at his collage/any records. Has his grandmothers under guard and won't produce his Birth certificates for the court. In my opinion, all the shades of his character need to be debated hard and now!!!

Can Win with Principles of CHRISTIAN
Palin created enthusiasm because she is a christian and a doer. We need a GOD AMENDMENT FOR THE BIBLE, PRAYER, AND CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES AS IN OUR U. S. HISTORY. Way One

jerabaub:
I find many of your posts informative and insightful. You missed the most important element of my statement. "Fair and accessible" is essential for justice to prevail.

Leaving aside the volumes of regulations with unintended consequences, the chief failure of our government has been the failure to ensure even the possibility of justice for either plaintiffs or defendants. In my long and undistinguished business career I have had numerous experiences with our court system. It is a farce.

More than one of my attorneys has admitted that, "Justice has nothing to do with it." "It" being the U.S. court system. If it is not about justice, what is it about?

"Intelligent regulation" is an impossible dream. Calling it a Quixotic quest gives it far more plausibility than it deserves.

I needn't enumerate the reasons regulators never succeed in their stated goals, all the reasons have been posted hear many times. What prosperity we experienced over the past decades has resulted from the exploitation of the gaps in the regulations, not from the regulations.

OF course McCain can still win!
I'm a life-long liberal Democrat, and I am convinced that McCain can still win. Buchanan must have written his column before the new McCain add ripping Obama about William Ayres dropped. Now that the McCain campaign is beginning to acquire the target, it is moving in the right direction. A realy, really aggressive negative campaign, with plenty of attack ads, will help McCain tremendously.

One of the things many conservatives want to deliver is payback for the 1960s, and this is an effective way to pursue that goal. So I say, if you want your guy to win, find every story you can, and start making up a few as well, throw them out there, and watch Obama's polls decline.

Make Ayres the Willie Horton of this election, and McCain has a chance. It's worked before, and there's no reason to think it won't work now.

The real problem
heresyarch (12:39am): spot on!

fj45lvr (1:00 am): I'm afraid you are right, too.

But the real problem is Congress, as Pat wrote, with "an approval rating HALF that of Bush". Regardless of who wins, it will either be doom-and-gloom awful or just awful. Those are our choices unless Congress comes to its senses (if it has any). It's time to clean house (House and Senate), throw the bums out and start over. Re-elect NO ONE in Congress for the next three elections.

DOES ANYONE HAVE
McCain buyers remorse? We should've had Romney, but too many "evangelicals" were too worried about his religion. I'm afraid McCain doesn't have the time nor the message to overtake BHO, so prepare for the pain everyone. It's as if the GOP has put another Bob Dole against Clinton, but Clinton was 10X more conservative than BHO will be. Stock up on food, water, and ammo - I am.

Obama's Radical Friends
This link will give a BIO on Obama’s friends and affiliations endorsing him. Obama cannot lie his way out of the truth. 3000 people from this source will work for him in the White House.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=8 00

Radical and Socialist Influences:
Saul Alinsky
Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour
Bill Ayers
Carl Davidson
Frank Marshall Davis
Bernardine Dohrn
John L. McKnight
Democratic Socialists of America
Gamaliel Foundation
New Party
Socialist Scholars Conference

Political Allies and Advisors:
Ali Abunimah
Mohamed Salim Al-Churbaji
David Axelrod
Joe Biden
Gregg Craig
Jim Johnson
Marilyn Katz
Anthony Lake
Robert Malley
Raila Odinga
Alice Palmer
Eli Pariser
George Soros
Cass Sunstein
Dorothy Tillman
Joyce Wheeler
Tim Wheeler
Foundations:
Joyce Foundation
Woods Fund of Chicago

Money Scandals:
Nadhmi Auchi
Robert Blackwell, Jr.
Tony Rezko

Religious Affiliations:
Louis Farrakan
Rev. Joseph Lowery
James Meeks
Rev. Otis Moss
Rev. Michael Pfleger
Rev. Al Sharpton
Jim Wallis
Rev. Jeremiah Wright

Organizational Affiliations:
ACORN
Arab American Action Network
Chicago Annenberg Challenge
Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, P.C.
International Crisis Group
MoveOn
National Council of La Raza
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
Project Vote
Sojourners

Academic Affiliations:
Rashid Khalidi
Edward Said
Cornel West

Dead Cat Bounce
We all could use one of those brother. But Pat's logic is on the money. If they scream about it, ramp it up.

Jerabaub
Ironic, is it not. We can elect Obama, and then as happened with Clinton, have the possibility of regenerating the GOP's control of the house and senate, or we can elect McCain, and likely have no such possibility until McCain is out of office.

In the end, America's debt partnerships with Europe and Asia, the replacement of the dollar as the sole currency for international trade, and the reduction of Wall Street to one of several world markets - as opposed to the principal one, will mark the world order that has been growing, and will now finally be recognized. Further, financial system regulation will no longer be solely the responsibility of the countries where a given market resides. Whatever Americans do, you can rest assured that Europeon and Asian markets will put regulations in place that will have as much impact on our own markets - as anything we do. Similar realities will confront banking. After all, if we don't comply with their rules, as well as ours, we cannot intermix trading - nor ownership. If the Europeons decide, for example, to rebuild the fire wall that previously existed between banks and risk securities, they will never let a US bank acquire Europeon banks, nor set up operations, if our banks don't comply.

While this transpires, we will still have to deal with internal issues. Costs of health care are 17% vs 9% to 10% for the rest of the world. Defense costs are 22% vs 5% to 10%, entitlement costs are ramping up and in many ways, out of control, and we have made no realistic investment in infrastructure in this country for 30 years.

Common sense standards evaporated.

The lessons of the past are generally forgotten from one generation to the next. But we must admit, relearning those lessons is always painful.

And, like you, the age of America's determination to take the full responsibility for the world's security, as opposed to sharing it, must also end.

It’s The Economy Stupid – Bill Clinton
HELL NO!

Insighting Truth
As a businessman, I've heard the same story from my attorneys many times. The only point I would make is that their is a difference between standards, and regulation. A standard says you must have certain assets to acquire certain debt and to offset losses given that debt. Such a formula applies to insurance and to banking. Leaving such a formula up to industry exclusively merely invites in the predators, who will take deposits, loan money, or insure what they cannot payout.

Dirt or Truth
There is a reason to turn to the modus operandi currently undertaken by the McCain camp. Desperation. When McCain was ahead, the campaign was about the issues facing the country, who was more experienced, and who could and would do a better job in the White House.

Now, McCain is behind and people are concerned because the economy has tanked with a Republican administration at the helm. Mr. Buchanan is right. The Republican brand is as popular as Chinese baby formula.

We got what we paid for with Bush II. The Republican base hated McCain until he was the only one left standing. It looks like he is going to fall by the wayside this time around.

What is the truth? Republicans so want the link to Ayres to be a ticking time bomb. If it turns out to be nothing like it has so far, what's next? Reverend Wright didn't change anything. Repeating Obama's middle name didn't change anything. All these time bombs are panning out to be duds.

Milliken: "Who is the real John McCain?"

Chalk up yet another Republican leader who opposes John McCain's lying and outrageous campaign.

Former Michigan Republican Governor Milliken says that McCain is "not the McCain I endorsed." He added, he wants to know:

"Who is the real John McCain?"

See the Grand Rapids Press newspaper story at:

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/index.ssf/2008/10/former_ governor_milliken_backs.html

Redlac:
I think you are pointing to a distinction without a difference. It does not matter how you name interference in the market, it is still interference. It serves only to separate the actor from the act, by shifting responsibility to the regulatory (standard setter if you prefer) body. A body that inevitably removes itself from the line of fire.

I do not fear predators; I can arm myself against them. I greatly fear regulators that inhibit my ability to defend myself.

When the government sets a minimum standard, it ultimately become the maximum standard. That works to the disadvantage of those that can afford better. More importantly it works to the disadvantage of those who cannot afford the newly established minimum.

Think for a moment. Make a list of the business entities that you most often complain about. Than make a list of the entities that you seldom find any reason to complain about. If you are like me, the first list will be populated with regulated companies, the second list will be almost exclusively unregulated businesses.

Asking for a little regulation from government is like praying for a little cancer. If you get it, it may be small to start out with, but it will almost certainly grow and spread. It is better to excise the diseased mass, even if some healthy tissue must be sacrificed.

Insighting
Typically, I look for standards only in a very narrow range of industries. Banking, Insurance and Securities. The dilemma is, I imagine, that we can indeed arm ourselves, but many others cannot. Do you, or don't your, for example, protect deposits? And if you do, how do you protect the entity that insures those deposits? Do you or don't you ensure that insurance companies have sufficient assets to off-set losses since they are selling losses. After all, books can be cooked. Money necessary to ensure the viability of what is sold can be paid out for other reasons. In general, of course, I don't like regulation. It's become a plague.

Gestell
That new ad came out on Monday. But today, on polls current through 08, we see that Obama's lead is expanding - not declining. Zogby and Rasmussen have him up by 5, two others including Battleground by 9, and one by 11.
And today, the market is still falling. It may be that the economy will drown out McCain. What is certain, is that the debate did not benefit McCain, and the ad seems, at least to date, to have little effect. And, we also know now that the Alaska Senate will vote today to decide whether or not to release the report on Palin - and their are sufficient leaks to lead one to believe that it will not be entirely complimentary. And since the Alaska Senate is controlled by the GOP, I suspect that any attempt to discount it - which is what we are now seeing from the McCain camp as they issue press releases in advance of the repot, will be somewhat muted.

In the end, most politicans have both associations and dirt, and how the voter views these things is by no means certain.

Redlac, Insightful Truth.
Redlac, Well reasoned posts(11:39, 11:43).

I wish everyone who participates on this site displayed the same degree of insight as you.

Insightful Truth, you make a compelling case.

In some ways, I totally agree with you.

"Intelligent regulation" is probably an oxymoron in many instances.

Too much regulation kills the goose that laid the golden egg.

Again, while I am not a fan of overly zealous regulation, some such mechanism was needed in the area of child labor laws at the turn of the 20th century.

When tuna fish importers mislabel tuna processed as animal food(for cats), into tuna fish fit for human consumption, should no regulation exist which would hold them accountable?

Yes, I admit the existence of regulation on labelling did not prevent the importer from foisting inferior product upon the human consumer, but does that mean we should dispense with all such labelling regulation and requirement?

"Caveat emptor"?

We more often agree than not.

I enjoy your posts.




Bias Media & Their Obama Man
The bias media is blatant about their man and they tear up McCain and Palin at every step of the way. They haven't even been objective, just down right mean and unobjective as the only thing that they can see is the light and as the light shines on their Messiah who will lead us into the new world order of socialism and higher taxes as well as the elimination of freedoms in the media, government, and our lifestyles, as we are experiencing today - listening to bias news and reports so we only hear what socialists want us to hear and see - taking over our public airwaves by government allowing the CEOs to force us to buy cable and no longer plug in our TVs to get any public airwave stations even though we pay for the public airwaves and own them - we've been high jacked - we've been sabotaged - I want my money back!!!!! Instead, they're giving more of our money to Wall Street, CEOs who made fraudulent loans, Feds who created fraudulent loans, and CEOs who are high jacking our airwaves - Good grief, where did our country go? Well, vote for Obama and he'll definitely lead you into the path of higher taxes and socialism as you look up and see the light, but it's after the lights go off (which you'll probably discover are camer lights) that you have to worry about!

Redlac:
I do not think it is necessary to regulate insurance companies, or banks. If banks want to sell insured deposits, they can buy such insurance. Believe me someone will provide the service if it stands the test of profitability.

The claim that "I" can take care of myself, but I want to use the force of government to protect the ignorant and downtrodden is egotistical at the very least.

In my life I have been the victim of fraud, on a couple of occasions. I have also met people that seemed demonstrably less educated, less capable, and less experienced than myself, that gave every impression of being virtually swindle-proof. Most often they accomplished this by the simple means of being suspicious of those who impressed them as being smarter than themselves. Nearly anyone is capable of suspicion, don't you agree?

I'm sorry Redlac, but the idea that we smart ones must protect all those poor dumb ones is a red herring. It manifests itself as an excuse to exercise power over sovereign individuals. I do not find that to be a compelling argument for regulation.

Invariably, regulation diminishes my choices, and therefore diminishes my freedom. Since I was born with the right to be free, I reject the idea that the state has legitimate power to take any freedom away from me, unless I am convicted of a crime.

Comparison shouldn't be racial
"...that a GOP presidential nominee was introduced to politics and worked in harness with a KKK bomber of black churches in the 1960s, who was quoted the morning of Oklahoma City as saying he wished he had planted more bombs?" No need to go here. In all factuality, the Reps care much more for the welfare of minorities in this country. Also, if a Rep. was paling around with an unrepentent leftist terrorist like Ayers, you are damn right the press would be all over it. It's incongruous but nonetheless, it shows how partial the press has becoms.

Blame for Economic Woes
How can we blame anyone other than ourselves for the economic problems we face today? Every year, no matter the industry, everyone wanted 10% growth at a min., year in and year out. We wanted, and received record levels of home ownership and now look at the result. We had a President who should have shouted from the roof top. Fannie Mae had a Democratic controlled Congress (yes, I am talking about Frank, Dodd and Schumer) in their back pocket. We wouldn't listen to McCain back then and only a few are listening now.

We were selfish and we bought from companies who had the lowest prices as they forced suppliers to move to China and other developing nations. The blue collar workers who scream the loudest about the loss of jobs are the ones who made Wal-Mart.

The cost of natural disasters during the Bush administration is staggering but we don't want to offend anyone by telling them they should have had insurance or that they shouldn't have built their homes there in the first place.

We can not comprehend what happens to the value of the dollar as we print billions upon billions to pay for pet projects.

We forgot everything about personal savings and personal responsibility and bought into the idea that we are entitled or that we deserve everything and we deserve it NOW.

Sadly, it looks like we are going to elect a President who will spend money like a drunken sailor which will result in our dependency on government like never before. Just look back to the mine owners who sold groceries and clothing to their workers and you will have a pretty good idea of where we are headed.

God have mercy on us!

David:
There is nothing wrong with wanting something. Wants are what drives humanity to achieve. If we don't want better things, or better situations progress grinds to a halt.

People did not forget about personal savings or responsibility, the force of government was used unwisely to make saving unattractive, and responsibility avoidable. Humanity, like water seeks the path of least resistance, to do otherwise would be entirely unnatural.

Scariest Reply of the day awards
Gestell Reply #17

"One of the things many conservatives want to deliver is payback for the 1960s, and this is an effective way to pursue that goal. So I say, if you want your guy to win, find every story you can, and start making up a few as well, throw them out there, and watch Obama's polls decline."

Reaponse: when all is lost, lie through your teeth

wayne reply #19

"Palin created enthusiasm because she is a christian and a doer. We need a GOD AMENDMENT FOR THE BIBLE, PRAYER, AND CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES AS IN OUR U. S. HISTORY"

Response: This country wasn't founded on Christian values. Get over it. Our founding fathers were deists.

Angel reply #25

"The last time I spoke to God, a minute ago, He said He's still on His Throne! Anything can happen in this election."

response: Wow, you actually talk with god, I always get his voicemail.

ColinCody reply #57

"As a Christian systematic theologian, I have studied him carefully and come to the firm conclusion that Obama is quite literally Satan's candidate for president."

response: as an Agnostic, i have studied the christian faith & have come to the conclusion that is a fairytale used to control weak minded folks like you.

jerabaub:
Thanks, It's gratifying that you take the time to read my posts.

May we examine examine just one of your examples of "necessary" and/or "beneficial" regulation. You refer to child labor laws as if they have had a positive effect on society.

The reality is much different. Child labor laws do not impact the children of the well-to-do. (Unless you stretch the concept to say that higher cost adult labor makes things more expensive, and the additional expense impacts them.) But such laws do impact the very poor.

It is a very rare parent that would send his child out to work merely to enhance an already adequate family income. However, in an impoverished family, the meager income a child is likely to add to the family may be the difference between barely adequate resources, and serious deprivation.

In addition, laws that restrict children from certain jobs, might actually push children into more dangerous endeavors. When I was young, I could not get a job in a restaurant or a grocery store. So I mowed lawns. Would I have experienced less risk to life and limb washing dishes or bagging groceries under adult supervision, or operating machinery in an unsupervised environment?

A more extreme example would be inner city kids that gravitate to illegal activities to get the wherewithal to buy what they cannot get from their relatively poor parent(s). Again, the law fosters unintended consequences.

Regulation of this sort does not really help anyone. It serves only as an excuse to exercise control over other people's lives.

Irresponsible employers, and even irresponsible parents can be held accountable for there actions if the government fulfils its mandate to provide fair and accessible courts. Because of its very nature, government is hard pressed to do even the minimal things that we must rely on it for. Making additional, unnecassry demands of government is self-defeating.

Buchanan's Advice to Take the Gloves Off
McCain is highly debatable as representative of the values and beliefs of the former GOP. The GOP has rolfed into the Globalist Party under the leadership of Bush I and II, and it's ad hoc members, Clinton and Reid. They are, clearly, two sides of the same coin.

As far as McCain getting tough and knocking hard on some of Obama's more radical associations, truly 2/3rds of this country feel we are on the wrong track - even greater than during the 60's when the Weathermen, Black Panthers, and those other radical dissident groups were in high gear. Feel that once he opens that can of worms, the mainstream media and Obama camp could not be faulted then with exposing some of Senator McCain's more nefarious associations and background. As a 45 year former Arizonan, he's himself has quite a few.....and the federal welfare just given to the major banks in hopes to "rescue" America's economy is the same solution that was used when the S&L's went belly up in the 80's, which is really what lead to where we are today - Congress then passed the Act which allowed these creative loans and questionable securities to be marketed, in order to stimulate the economy and quell the fears of homeowners and feed many of their campaign contributors, the developers, banking and insurance firms. Now that "bailout" and it's aftershocks are coming home to roost.

For the true conservative constitutionalists still out there who believe in the country our founders intended, there is only one choice.

Chuck Baldwin, who thinks the "solution" is to rewind to the government and Constitutional restraints they created.

betsy ross:
Have you read the platform of The Constitution Party? Which of the 7 party principles do you find appealing? Which do you consider Constitutional?

The mode of dust in your neighbor's eye
"The Washington Post reported in 1988 that John McCain had sent his own money to the Nicaraguan terrorist organization known as 'contras.'

What AP reported yesterday is that now many writers are investigating John McCain's support of a right-wing organization that sent arms to the Nicaraguan terrorists.

The contras targeted and killed both Ben Linder, an American volunteer engineer in Nicaragua, and an American nun Sister Maureen Courtney.

McCain visited the contra camps illegally less than five months after the contras killed Ben Linder of Portland, Oregon, and the contras killed Sister Maureen Courtney just three years after McCain made his friendly visit to the child-raping, civilian-castrating terrorists.

After McCain returned from his friendly visit with the contras, he lobbied the Reagan Administration to boost funding and arms to the contras.

The contra terrorists killed tens of thousands of civilians in order to maintain their control over the rural, farming communities in their region."

It seems to me that McCain should worry more about the great plank in his eye that the mote of dust in Obama's.

Can McCain Still Win?
"Can McCain Still Win?" the headline read and the SILENT MAJORITY replied,"NO...HELL NO!" AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED HE WAS/IS APART OF THE LEADERSHIP THAT LEAD TO YOUR FAILED ECONOMY AND BET OUR MONEY ON PROVEN LOSERS AND THAT CONTINUED TO BE PROVEN LOSERS ALL THE WHILE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON SPAS AND RESORTS. IN TURN, WE'VE CLOSED RANKS AROUND OUR FUTURE AND ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF TEACHING THEM NOT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AS YOU FAILURES DID. DON'T WORRY THOUGH, WHEN THE TIME COMES AND IT WILL, WE'LL BE SURE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH DIRECTIONS TO THE WOODS BY THE RIVER, THE ALLEY WAY,THE GUTTER AND THE LOCAL HOMELESS SHELTERS AND GIVE YOU ALL THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO SURVIVE. WE PROMISE. OTHERWISE, KNOW WE ARE STILL THE MAJORITY WE WILL VOTE AND WE WILL BE COUNTED ACCORDINGLY. WE HAVE MADE SURE OF THAT.

NO
No, Mr. Buchanan. He cannot win.

jayhawk in aotearoa
So where are you, Kansas or New Zealand? And what makes you so prescient as to pronounce the election over? Maybe you're confident in the Obama vote fraud/election stealing in the battleground states?

For Kaw K in WI
Subject: Can McCain Still Win?

What the hell are you ranting about? I don't know if I should agree with you or chastise you severely. HUH????

For Steelsil
Subject: The mode of dust in your neighbor's eye

And His Lordship Daniel Ortega was passing out lollipops and cups of KoolAid.

SteveL:the typical American
SteveL stated:
"Americans have now lost half their nest eggs which they had invested in the stock market.

And they're going to blame the guy in the White House, and his party. That means the GOP.

That's all they care about. Who can best fix the economy.

My own 401(k) has been decimated.

If I thought William Ayers could fix the economy, I would even vote for him."

This type of thinking is why Americans have candidates like Obama or McCain. There is NO acceptance of responsibility for their choices. Their thinking is this,"It is NEVER my fault". Bush or Obama did not pick your 401k plan or your investment choices. YOU chose to take the risk of mutual funds or equities in the market without any downside risk protection. It was YOU who did not get educated on investing. Dont give me this crap about work and dont have time. Make time, it is your hard earned money. Investing is only good when things go up in value. When things go down, someone is to blame..like little children.
Why not get educated on how this business cycle works to make yourself a better investor? How is Obama or McCain going make your 401k plan better?
SteveL is the typical American seeking security instead of Freedom. He is willing to sell his soul to the devils of Socialism to get his "security". All of this to protect his 401k plan. Amazing how far we have fallen.

Tom:
Unless you are new to TH, you have seen many cogent explanations of why McCain will not win. The truth is McCain never had any chance of winning in November. If you have been on TH for a while you already know why John McCain cannot win, and your are just playing with us.

choice
Americans are making a big mistake by not trying to find out who is really to blame for the economic mess.
Instead of getting someone in office who could start to lead us out of the mess, we may get someone who leads us deeper in.

TOM
Just ask any Viet Nam Era Veteran if we, the citizens of the United States tolerate failure and the answer is and will always be "NO!" If we vote right after having identified the scource of the problem and took appropriate measures to fix the problem, we can then teach our children all that we learnd so our history doesn't repeat itself. As far as the Silent Majority is concerned we can do that on November the Fourth, 2008 A.D. We have infiltrated both parties since 2000 A.D. to ensure ourselves that the soldier, who just filled out his/her absentee ballot yesterday and spilled their blood today and died for us so we cast a secret ballot at the public polling places, has his/her vote counted. We did this for our future, our children. We also did this because it was proven in 2000 A.D. that it is not the vote that counts, it's who counts the vote.

Say No To Republicans
Even though I am a registered Republican, in all good intentions, I cannot vote for Obama so will have to go with Nadar or Barr. Bush and Congress have destroyed the faith in government and businesses. KICK THE BUMS OUT!

JOHN SHAFT

.....You are so right ...we are all responsible for ourselves and our lives ...

.....I was raised in poverty by relatives ...I joined the Army in time for Korea and re-enlisted for Vietnam ...

.....In the years after Vietnam I wandered around the Country and worked at odd jobs and was homeless at times ...I got married at thirty and didn't have a pot to p*ss in or a window to throw it out ...but I became responsible ...

....Since then I have owned several homes and have two right now both free and clear ...my two cars are paid off and I have a $50 balance on my one credit card ...other than that I am totally debt free ...

.....This stock market panic is a great buying oppertunity ...quality stocks like Johnson & Johnson and Wal-Mart are down 20% and pay good dividends ...too bad so many people always see the glass as half empty and look for someone to blame when life isn't perfect ...

.....I enjoy your posts as you always make good sense .....COLOSSUS

Hannity Sunday at 9:00 P.M.
Look at the documentary on Senator Obama on Hannity Sunday at 9:00 P.M. The major networks would not air the show. Democrats absolutely refuse to accept responsibility for the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac fiasco and the millions made in the process. This started with President Carter and his low-income loans and Fannie Mae was asked to make a LOT of these kinds of loans. Most applicants for mortgage loans were NOT vetted properly and would not qualify for the loan under ordinary circumstances. This continued through Clinton and up to Reid at present. This was the major force in initiating the financial meltdown, and now, Obama is supposed to get us out of it? Talk about putting the fox to guard the chickens! A Bush-hating DNC and a bad economy, largely the result of Democrats, with good intentions, McCain has an uphill battle. He only suffers from experience, honor, judgment and character. There are times when a country needs a person with these qualities. I for one, have a very basic, unwavering rule and that is I do NOT vote for socialists and communists and never intend to. It is unfortunate that much of the U.S. has no real clue about the true background of Senator Obama, as Hillary Clinton noted during the primaries. From his early Chicago ACORN days onward, there is little to speak for this inexperienced candidate, let along have him be responsible for the security and interests of our republic. Just say NO to socialism voters.

What Failed Economy ???

The current "Meltdown" was caused by one person...

Barack Obama

This is more of a vote of "No Confidence" in Barack's Marxism, rather than an actual collapse.

Everything was just fine until Barack came to town! Now the players are scared to death of "Robin, The Hood".

Populism
Perhaps we need four years of agony and pain of an Obama administration to help ressurect the Conservative movement. The GOP has been lacking such principled leadership since Newt Gingrich left the House, and has been trying to be many things to as many people as possible, and when you do that you lose focus on who you are as a party and your duty to your nation. The Democrats never compromise their "values" or "beliefs", and have been waging non-stop war against the GOP for decades. It's time that the GOP wake up and realize they're in the fight for their existence and the freedoms and values that have made America great.

I predict under an Obama administration that the nation will probably sink into economic depression, that our enemies shall grow stronger, and we may have another terrorist strike on our homeland as bad, if not worse, than 9/11. Let us hope that the pain of the next four years is enough to teach valuable lessons.

Michelle and Barack hold hidden attitude
How in God's name can one say GodDamn America? How can two people sit and listen, in God's name for years?

How can you get a million dollar house from a Real Estate Criminal and just call it a Boneheaded Mistake?

How can you say, "For the first time I am proud of My Country" and then say you meant something else?

Our voting youth and 97% of the black population are letting this Pied Piper actually talk himself into the White House.

Bring on the dirt. Dump the vacuum cleaner bag on this man's head!

Everyone dig and shout. It's the only chance left.

Don Jones
PoeSpirits.com

Yes, Pat
it does come down to how McCain feels about an Obama presidency. How do you attack someone you agree with? While McCain is not as far to the left as Obama, scratch the surface and he's a liberal, not withstanding his few conservative positions. He and Obama think alike on too many issues. McCain's world view is that of a liberal. How else could a conservative have anything politically in common with Ted Kennedy? I'm sure too, lurking in his guilty-white left-leaning egalitarian brain is the idea that Obama deserves to be president because he's black.

Winning would make him go down in liberal history books as the white guy who prevented the first viable black man from achieving the presidency, and thus the mythical 'post-racial' America. McCain wants a legacy of being the only conservative who never met a democrat he didn't love.

MCCAIN-PALIN RIGHT ON ! PAT WHY!
PAT,WE NEED ABOUT 30 BILLION TO BUY OUR OWN CONSERVATIVE TV NET WORK,HOW DID THE RADICAL LIBERALS EVER TAKE CONTROL OF ALL THE NET WORKS!HOW IS IT, BOB THE SHEEFFER,GETS TO BE THE MODERATOR FOR THE NEXT DEBATE??LET CHUCK NORRIS BE THE MODERATOR,OR YOU OR OLIE NORTH,WHY DO THE RADICAL LIBERALS GET TO DO ALL THE MODERATING???????

Yes, we will win -
The last couple of weeks is showing the McCain's campaign strategy of good cop/bad cop. The RNC concluded 18 months ago that the only Republican that could go toe to toe this election would be a moderate because there was just too much anti-Bush sentiment. Enter John McCain. We conservatives know that he is a right of center moderate, and for the most part that's just fine. We will be very thankful for him this January since the other choice is a socialist.

But, what to do about staunch conservatives? Enter Sarah Palin. A moderate can't be expected to point out the other candidate's bad side (even if they are related to terrorist associations). So, now Sarah is doing her bad cop - and she is doing it very well.

Over the next couple of weeks, this race is going to tighten. BHO should be way ahead by now and he's and not and that alone tells a lot.

Over the line...
"Republicans don't let Republicans incite violence."

Over the line...
"Republicans don't let Republicans incite violence."

Mr. Conservative
It is interesting how you lay the blame for the Freddie and Fannie meltdown on Pres. Carter, skip forward to Pres. Clinton and then you move to a senator with Reid. Why do you fail to mention Reagan and Bush Sr.? They allowed the CRA to continue. You also failed to mention Bush jr. who, through his "Ownership Society" policies, pressured financial institutions to give loans to unqualified people in even greater numbers than the CRA called for.

Guess what every politician I have named in this post has in common? They are ALL members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Along with Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain, Mrs. Clinton, Pelosie and Biden. http://www.cfr.org

You say, "Just say NO to socialism voters." and I totally agree. I am glad to hear you will not be voting for Obama or McCain or any of your congressional representatives that voted for the trillion dollar nationalization of our financial markets. Not to mention you must be livid at Bush jr. for his part in turning America into a socialist/communist country.

When a government uses it's citizens tax money to buy ownership of private companies- that by definition is COMMUNISM. Welcome to the United Communist States of America (U.C.S.A.) and the New World Order commrades! May the Motherland live long and prosper!

The People's Republic of the USA
Yes, Mark, "the Democrats ARE guilty." However the American people seem to have limited depth in examining the issues. We are about to elect the very type of people who actually precipitated the economic crisis. Do we really want conditions to improve? Welcome to The People's Republic of the USA---where the dumb masses can only elect dumb asses.

Sounds Like A Bunch Of "Quitters"
We have TWO choices, and ONLY TWO choices. So what are we going to DO?

#1. Throw in the towel and hand our country over to Obama?

#2. Vote for a President we can SURVIVE through. McCain isn't out to deliberately re-build America into something else (Socialist, Communist, Marxist, whatever, who knows?)

Seems to me that choice #2 gives Americans the opportunity to come back in 4 years and fight a better fight. Obama's 4 years would take us to a place Americans can never recover from. Without freedom, America is like every other country out there.

I'm going with McCain and praying constantly for God's continued Blessings on America; that He keeps us One Nation under Him. There's a national prayer chain going on; people are going to make it a point to pray for America sometime within the 2008 minutes just before the election. That's roughly the 33.5 hours leading into the election. Possibly some of the others here will tear themselves away from their keyboards for a moment and say a little prayer during that time, whatever your faith may be. You know, "Where two or more are gathered..."?

Secondly, I'm "talking politics" with everyone in my circle of family and friends and getting the word out. Obama is a Menace to American Society.

It ain't over until it's over; we haven't voted yet. Too bad this year we are positive of voter fraud. Acorn isn't even discreet about stealing votes this year- they're in your face and are already under investigation in almost a dozen states. These Obama thugs are out to make certain Obama is elected. Can't let that happen folks.







Obama Needs a Luggage Cart
to handle all the baggage he has picked up over the last 15 or 20 years.
Obama has already told about three stories describing his interaction with Wm Ayers.
And Rezko - was a long relationship during which Obama arranged for millions of dollars in taxpayer money to pass to Rezko to rehab low income apartment buildings, etc. None of the rehab got done.
ACORN - Obama has actually said he has not interacted with ACORN on any level - HE WORKED FOR THEM - REPRESENTED THEM. Matter of record.
Rev Wright - it is absolutely insane for anyone to accept Obama's claim that he never heard Wright's anti American, anti white hatred being spewed - much of Wright's seniments were committed to the written word.
Phleger, Farrakhan, Auchi, etc. etc. the list goes on, the movement from one person to another, the financial interactions are all there for anyone to analyze.
It all depicts a dishonest person - yes Obama is a dishonest person with an interest in dealing with other less than respectable individuals prone to extremely questionable behavior on many levels.
PLEEEZE - if McCain had one tiny overnight case on his luggage cart - he would be tortured all over again by the media and his opponent.
SENATOR McCAIN - START YOUR ENGINE AND JUST BRING UP THE TRUTH - that is not negative campaigning - just tell the truth about this Barack Obama!!!

Pat you've got this one wrong.
Pat,
You are fooling yourself. McCain was a second rate nominee for the Republican Party.
1.) The Voters are smart enough to recognize the complete hypocrisy of him saying he would vote against his own immigration policy. This was one area the party could have exploited against Obama. Public opinion was on our side.

2.) McCain has not offered any meaningful policy differences from President Bush. Persistently supporting shipping American jobs overseas will not gain any votes in Ohio, Michigan or the rust belt.

3.) McCain talks a good game with fiscal responsibility, but this bailout is beyond the pale. The Republican Party should have stood on it's principles on this issue. IT FAILED. Hundreds of Billions of dollars in CORPORATE WELFARE for the Wall Street Republicans. That's not going to sell on Main Street. Right now every Republican Senator is getting POUNDED by democrats for their support!

4.) McCain is out of touch with common Americans. He's is turning off independents with his NEGATIVE campaign. He has pounded Obama all week and Obama's lead has increased by 5 points from Saturday to today.

5.) It going to be a long 8 years is my prediction. We must get back to basic conservatism. No handouts for Wall Street or any one else. A strong economy with PROPER oversight!

Who is Obama
I've compiled some information about Obama's allies and it seems clear he has surrounded himself with extremists and radicals. I think he is running a campaign based on Alinsky principles that he learned as a community organizer - don't let them know your agenda until it is too late. Here is a link to the stuff I compiled.

http://inyourrightmind.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/10/obama__w ho_are_you.thtml

Yes, McCain can win.
The McCain/Palin ticket has the advsantage of having controling interests in the fllowing constituencies:
1) Evangelical Christians, approximately 25% of our population.
2) Members of the N.R.A. & their allies who're not offically members of the N.R.A.
3) diehard Republicans.
4) Families with sprecial needs children
5) Hardcore Pro-Life Catholics & Pro-Life Protestants who're not Evangelical, albeit a minority of both all Catholics & Protestants.
6) Veterans & G.I.s, of whom there are more than 23 million.

Clearly, the MSM is striving to discourage conservatives from voting. We need to turn out in massive numbers to win. So, harp at your frinds to get off their fannies & go vote!

Two choices
at 7:46 Brickhouse wrote "We have TWO choices, and ONLY TWO choices."

You mean Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin? That is an interesting choice. On Ron Paul's endorsement I'm leaning toward Baldwin.

Everyone else running is a socialist - and that's no choice at all. Before you argue with me about McCain being a socialist, remember that the definition of socialism is the belief that the state should own the means of production - and that's EXACTLY what this bailout that McCain supported and voted for is.

Add that to all the other times he's stabbed conservatives in the back, especially campaign finance, and he becomes entirely unacceptable.

Brickhouse continues "...Obama's 4 years would take us to a place Americans can never recover from. Without freedom..."
Hyperbole. Remember that Carter lead to Reagan. Had Ford won in 1976, the country-club wing of the GOP would have continued to be dominant, and we would never have had Reagan.

I would much prefer Palin, Jindal, Hunter, Tancredo, or even Thompson, Romney or Huckabee to Obama. But McCain is just as bad - with him as POTUS the GOP in congress will give him what he wants - when he bothers to get their vote instead of crossing the isle as he's so prone to do. Obama as POTUS give the GOP something to fight.

McCain would make a better leader than Obama - but only in a vacuum. When the dynamic with the rest of the powers in Washington are considered, the results would be just as bad.

McCain did it to himself
John "Mr. Amnesty" McCain lost many potential Republican voters over his brainless support of illegal immigration. Lost in the economic meltdown: It costs America nearly $350 billion each and every year to "fund" illegal aliens -- or about half of the price of that Wall Street bailout. The key words here: each and every year. Also, illegals were partly responsible for the mortgage meltdown because of stupid banks lending them money to buy a home that they eventually defaulted on.

McCain also missed the boat on his vice president. Sarah Palin could add a lot to a ticket. But, the top of the ticket has to have somebody for which the party actually has some excitement. No so with McCain, who would have been better served by picking Mitt Romney. No one would have questioned Romney's ability to lead in case something happened to McCain (actually, Romney would do a better job) and certainly Romney would have been the go-to guy in the debates on the economy and Wall Street fiasco. He likely knows 10 times more about the economy than McCain, Barack Obama and Joe Biden combined. Romney could have been McCain's big gun on the current mess.

So, we're left with the horrific possibility that Obama will be the next president of the United States. Never in my lifetime did I imagine for one second that we would ever have such an undeserving, unqualified president. A lot of gullible people have been hookwinked by a used-car salesman posing as a change-agent politician.

McCain's a Wimp
If John McCain really loves this country he needs to start naming the names of those responsible for this economic mess. He can begin by blaming Bush for spending like a drunken sailor, however, he needs to finish by outlining the idiotic social engineering efforts championed by Clinton, Franks, Watters, Meeks and Democrats in general. He needs to make it clear that it was the Republicans that called for an investigation into Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. When Obama retorts that he called for the reform, he needs to show us his infamous "temper" and chide Obama like a disobedient school boy.


Palin Must Resign
If we're going to win Palin must resign and return to Alaska and deal with the criminal charges that are now forthcoming after being found guilty of abusing the powers of her office regarding the family fued with officer Wooten. To remain as VP candidate would distract the voters and proves to many that she is not fit for office. However, McCain looks like he has hit full panic mode again and has blamed the whole thing on you guessed it - Obama. Now there is plenty to blame on Obama but this is ridiculous. Did Obama even know who Palin was a month ago? No. These charges have been pending for months now and it's a Republican dominated committee that investigated her. McCain needs to backtrack and fire Palin (she's killing our campaign anyhow) in order to salvage some credibility with mainstream America. With a solid VP candidate and a cessation of the attack style politics that Palin brought to the once classy McCain Campaign,Yes,we can win.

I've got a better idea - McCain resigns
and Palin takes the top spot. She's got more relevant experience than Obama, comperable charisma, and much less baggage. The trumped-up scandal Blanco refers to is completely bogus, and anyone not opposed to Palin for idealogical reasons (i.e. might vote for her) knows that.

It's McCain that's killing his own campaign, not Palin - she's energizing it.

I do wonder if it would be better for Palin to drop off the McCain ticket for her own sake - so she doesn't have to give lip service to McCain's socialist / statist / anti-liberty policies.

Sartash resign? Nonsense
Sissies & queers infesting the East Coast may be afraid of Sarah, but she's much admired & liked in the heartland. In addition, she brings to McCain the Evangelical Christian vote, approximately 25% of the American populace. Moreover, Pro-Lifers, both Catholic & Protestant, are drawn to the ticket by her. Ditto N.R.A. members & their allies, politically minded gun owners who're not members of the N.R.A.

IMO, Catholic & a seriously WIA Viet-Nam veteran Sarah's great. Clearly, I'm not the only conservative to think so, given the suggestions floated on "WorldNetDaily" to move Sarah to the top of the Republican ticket.

Abuse of Power: Palin
Socialists and Communists are adept at abuse of power. Palin is married to man who was a member of a anti-American secessionist movement. She cavorted with the enemy and slept with same. Damn Alaskan confederates! Hail to the Union! Damn the confederates!

Numbers are OK
James said: "McCain is out of touch with common Americans. He's is turning off independents with his NEGATIVE campaign. He has pounded Obama all week and Obama's lead has increased by 5 points from Saturday to today".
Actually, Obama's numbers are down.
I don't know what can be done to get McCain elected. Nor do I know what can be done to make sure Obama is not elected. I am having doubts - does McCain even want to be President? If so, why doesn't he expose Obama for what he really is? I think this is the only weapon at this point. This is really the time to put the country first. Otherwise our country will go down the socialistic drain. Senator McCain, take off your gloves - expose Obama to his face, be bold, be passionate! People want to listen to you, but they no longer care about your voting record. Just go and rip Obama apart!

Where is this country going?
Our economy sucks because American's want it all: cheap prices, high wages, benefits that someone else pays for and a kickass retirement fund. The demand for high wages and benefits drives up the cost of products and services, so companies either move outside the country or hire illegals to stay competitive and drive up their profits and stock prices. This satisfies those with IRAs, pensions and 401k accounts, but leads to a backlash from the Democrats because corporations "outsource 'our' jobs" overseas.

Like it or not, corporations and small businesses are the life-blood of this country. Lower corporate taxes, provide additional incentives to keep and move production facilities here, marginalize unions by paying fair wages to both blue collar workers and white collar executives. Abolish employer funded health care plans and let workers purchase health care like they do car, homeowners and life insurance. Insurance is all about spreading and sharing risk. Phase out Social Security by informing today's 18 and under crowd that it will not be there for them. They must continue to pay into the system to help support the baby boomers. In return, their retirement savings will not be taxed...ever. Mandate personal financial planning education at all levels of public and private schools.

In addition, let poorly run institutions and businesses fail. Capitalism is based on survival of the fittest.

It's time for American's to take care of themselves and take advantage of the opportunities that are only available here. Let each individual earn their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Marxism, Socialism, Bush, Paulson, McCain, Reid, Pelosi, Ayers, Wright, Soros and Obama be damned.

If you love terrorists...
IF YOU LOVE TERRORISTS, SCAM ARTISTS AND WACKO PREACHERS, YOU'LL LOVE OBAMA!!

Obama seems to have penchant for befriending terrorists, scam artists and wacko preachers, i.e., Ayers, Rezko, Wright, et al. If he Obama does win this election, I wouldn't be too surprised if he picked to be on his board of advisors (his 'dream team' - if he could get away with it) the likes of Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and some other radical leftists.

OBAMA - IT'S TIME TO SHOW YOUR TRUE (RADICAL LEFTIST) COLOR!

ABC NEWS LOVES OBAMA !
O WHAT A SHAME IS B.HUSSEIN!

OBAMA HELPED DESTROY US; THE C R A
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THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT; HAS NOW KILLED OUR ECONOMY.

THE GREAT DEPRESSION 2008 NOW BEING BROUGHT TO BY BARACK OBAMA WHO FACTUALLY SUED BANKS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT "WRITING" ENOUGH BAD LOANS TO PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT EVER PAY.......

GREAT IDEA: LETS MAKE HIM THE PRESIDENT

Victoria
You said:
"The implication is simply false. Obama is not a terrorist and it is a terrible thing to say about a US Senator".
They do not imply that Obama is a terrorist. They simply question Obama's judgement and beliefs.
You said:
"(2) Some of the McCain/Palin rallies are so angry that they seem to want to kill people. This is extremely upsetting".
I do not think physical violence is a possibility. I think people are upset, scared and disappointed. They do not like Obama and feel helpless watching McCain's efforts to defeat him.
I hope McCain pulls himself together and delivers a serious blow to Obama. I'd like him to address Obama directly at the last debate. I'd like him to ask Obama:"Senator, how come all of your associations are so shady and devoid of reasonable judgement?" and then list these associations. And then McCain should ask him: "Why should Americans believe you? You are not offering them all these goodies knowing very well there is no way you can pay for them especially now, when the country is in such dire situation and such debt. How sound is your judgement especially after we have learned who your friends are - Reverend Wright, Lois Farrakhan, Bill Ayers, terrorist Khalidi,convicted fellon Tony Rezko, ACORN and others alike?"
It really surprises me that there are people around who dismiss these facts about a man who is about to become President of the most powerful country in the world - are they under some funny spell or what?

Red Herring
Right, as if there is a moral equivalent between the KKK, who killed people for race, and the destruction of buildings as a statement for peace.

As a society we are quick to rationalize violence when it suits our purpose. The founding fathers destroyed property (tea party) for the principle of tax relief.

If I had been compelled against my will to go to a foreign country and die for no purpose, I might also be inclined to express discontent. Any honest history of the United States cannot avoid the role of violence in important decisions. I am grateful that I have never been pushed to the point of violence.

Good one, Patrick!
Loved it, especially your second to last paragraph. Very apropros!

Michele

Pat Buchanan
Pat Buchanan either needs to get off MSNBC, or stop writing for Townhall.

NO!
Don't waste your vote on McCain, vote Bob Barr.

Victoria and others supporting Obama
Obama spent 20 years devotedly following an America-hating, white-hating pastor, and Obama never criticized him. To the contrary, he repeatedly described him as his spiritual guide and as the most influential person in his life. Then, when that pastor's statements began to come to light, Obama, who by his own admission had attended that church at least twice a month for 20 years, denied having ever heard that pastor say hateful things from the pulpit, until the whole country saw what that pastor was like, and Obama was forced to dissociate himself from him, while still denying that he had heard him say the kinds of things he obviously said all the time. Obama worked for the well-known unrepentant Weather Underground bomber William Ayers, a self-described communist, as the first chairman of a foundation that Ayers had set up to propagandize school kids. Then, while Obama was serving as the chairman of Ayers's foundation, Ayers and his wife hosted in their Chicago home the fundraiser for Obama that launched his political career. He was a close associate, partner, and beneficiary of this person for at least seven years in the 1990s, and when this relationship came to light Obama outrageously lied about it and said that Ayers was just someone he bumped into occasionally in his neighborhood.

Those aren't smears -- those are facts.

Obama, instead of avoiding American-haters and terrorists, closely associates with them. We know for a fact that he tolerates them and sees nothing wrong with them. And we know for a fact that when called out on his associations with such people, he dishonestly denies knowing anything about them.

What does that tell us about what kind of president he will be? It tells us that he will form close relations with terrorist and pro-terrorist leaders abroad, as already shown by his pledge to meet the president of Iran without conditions. And he will lie about doing so.

Barry Tupac Obama
Jus livin the Thug Life.

With Batty Barry's surrogates (Carville) claiming that there will be riots if Obama is not allowed to steal the election is it any wonder people are getting angry?

Thanks for the heads up James, I'll be getting out the guns and ammo so I'll be ready to welcome Barry's rioting friends.

Thug Thizzle y'all.

How did this happen?
How in the world did we end up with John McCain as the Republican candidate? I still can't figure it out. I didn't vote for him, he was the choice before I had the chance to vote in my state's primary.

Unfortunately, he is it, and I have a sick feeling in my stomach about the future. I have visions of BO and Ahmadinejad going to
world townhall meetings together,hand in hand.

McCain needs to stop being Mr. Nice Guy
McCain needs to stop complementing his opponent all the time and start to FIGHT for the presidency if he really wants it.

I am sick and tired of missed opportunities McCain has had in the debates, where the Mr. Eloquent (but empty) Obama comes off on top.

Character IS the issue in this campaign. Obama can't be trusted, and he'll ruin this country with irreparable harm if elected.

Insighting Truth
The Constitution is not a living document. It is nothing more than a contract, and a contract is to be interpreted according to the "common useage" language contained within it, not creatively defined to circumvent it's provisions or intent. Roe was not a privacy matter at all according to those provided in the "search and seizure" provisions.

The Federal Reserve Act itself is unconstitutional, and was passed on a holiday weekend behind closed doors during the Wilson administration, since the printing and valuation of currency is clearly a governmental responsibility, not a private entities such as the Fed. Once they abridged the Constitution in that manner, then they needed to at the very least provide strict oversight. That negligence, along with the S&L debachle of the 80's and another Act which was passed thereafter, is truly what lead to what has occurred, and as an Arizonan who watched many seniors lose everything they had due to the Keating mess, Mr. McCain may have gotten a by the Congressional hearings, but many Arizonans will not forget that, nor his continued support for amnesty and open borders for his corporate backers, while there has been more loss of life since 9/11 in the border states due to the open borders, and homeless created due to the drug traffickers, auto and property thieves, gang members and others who border hop and use the U.S. as a place of commerce only. The border states are under invasion, while Mr. McCain is geared to protect Israel and protect it's borders, and most likely pre-emptively strike Iran, putting this country even further in debt, and creating more future generations of terrorists in the process.


Insighting Truth
Think you might need to actually read the document, and Mr. Baldwin's positions, with also a knowledge of the background and history and intent of the founder's (including Ben Franklin's speech when it was ratified), and the fact that "corporations" are not even parties to the Constitution, since there are only three legal entities (feds,state,people) to it to see that what happened last week was unconstitutional on it's face, and is laughable now that we are being subjected to these sham hearings AFTER signing over 700 billion to these freewheeling entities, whose inquisitors most likely were their biggest benefactors.

Yet still claiming even seven years after 9/11, when we were attacked from within, that we don't have the revenue to secure our own borders with the needed fencing. NASA could have had it done in six months.

Go Chuck Baldwin!

steveL: Man of principles
Wrote:
"My own 401(k) has been decimated.
If I thought William Ayers could fix the economy, I would even vote for him."

Words fail me.
This whole thread is pretty full of cr@p posts, with a few exceptions. What kind of thinking do you attract, Mr. Buchanan?

Don't bother replying to me
I won't be back on this thread (and probably not to any other's of Buchanan)

Chris: Where Will We Be?
With an Obama Presidency, where will we be? Hillary appointed to the Supreme Court? William Ayers (Weather Underground bomber) appointed as head of Department of Education? Go ahead, stick to your principles and vote the 2% parties.

It's simple
Obama + Pelosi + Reid + a super majority of Dems in the Senate = National Disaster = the End of Capitalism and the Ascendancy of the Welfare State = the People's Republic of the United States

1 trillion dollars in new spending paid for by only raising taxes on people making over $250,000...... give me a break...... guess P.T. Barnum was right.... there is a sucker born every minute...

Can McCain Still Win?
I just found out that our symbol of freedom was being made by a bunch of RED COMMUNIST CHINESE arranged by a RED republican by the name of former liason to RED COMMUNIST CHINA george herbert walker bush. His bejing buddy and former houseboy is doing extremely well for himself off the profits of the sale to me and my fellow Americans of our symbol of freedom to us. Meanwhile, my fellow Americans who were laid off and are now losing thier houses due to forclosure all because the RED COMMUNIST CHINESE houseboy needed to feed his family using our symbol of freedom. All soldiers wearing that RED CHINESE COMMUNIST FLAG are now allowed by the DEMOCRACY loving American people to rip that symbol of OUR freedom from their uniforms until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Americans are making 100% that flag and are able to go back to work to save their homes thereby saving OUR economy. Don't worry, we will be at the airport noting exactly which day and time former liason to RED COMMUNIST CHINA RED republican george herbert walker bush goes to visit his bejing buddies in preparation for their (known RED COMMUNIST BUZZPHRASE)"new world order." TERROR THREAT LEVEL RED WALL STREET AND WASHINGTON,D.C. How does it feel to be ruled by fear "right now"? The shoe is definitely on the other foot, isn't it? "Can McCain Still Win" The answer is "NO! HEEELLLLL NO!" And here's more proof why.

WHY IS THE NEWS MEDIA NOT REPORTING THIS
http://www.obamacrimes.com/

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.ph p?t=25377

Obama wrote about going to Pakistan with two friends when he was 20 with his Indonesian Passport then he did an audio of the book and you hear him saying it again in his own voice. He could not have a passport from there if he was an American.

They have had the summons for four days and no one has said a word about it, not even a whisper.

If I know about this the whole DNC must know it.


Oh they are talking again, now they are saying he has put another birth certificate on his site, and he said if the first one was correct, why are they putting on another one?????


Can McCain still win?
No.

Can McCain Still Win?
ANOTHER RESCUE?????!!!!!!! Shame us once, shame on you Washington AND Wall Street! Shame us twice, shame on us. There will be no shame on us. We have endured enough! We have lost our homes.NO MORE RESCUES TO PROVEN LOSERS THAT USED OUR $700,000,000,000.00 to go to a resort and spa and golf course and..............everything but save your collective butts. GET IT WASHINGTON AND WALLSTREET! W-E W-I-L-L N-O-T B-E S-H-AM-E-D O-R F-O-O-L-E-D B-Y T-H-E-S-E C-O-N-F-I-D-E-N-C-E M-E-N A-N-D W-O-M-E-N A-G-A-I-N, P-E-R-I-O-D! TERROR THREAT LEVEL RED WALL STREET AND WASHINGTON,D.C. How does it feel to be ruled by fear? It appears the shoe is definitely on the other foot "Right Now." Don't you agree Van Halen, all time favorite heavy metal rock group of MRS. TODD Palin, who skyrocketed to fame after the 1978 release of their original song "Runnin' With The Devil"? Trig Van Palin............how cute Pentacostals! "Can McCain Still Win?" The answer is,"NO!!....HEEELLL NO!" Just more proof why.


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CITIZENS OR WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE??

"ACORN, the network of "community activists," who packed the early caucus states in the Democrat primaries for Obama to beat Hillary. By packing the caucuses they got around the need for a vote by majority of registered Democrats. Bolshevik playbook, anybody? But then Mayor Richard Daley the Elder would also recognize that one.

Black Liberation "Theology" is hodge-podge Marxism under the guise of Christianity. It has no place for God, who is just subsumed under the next excuse for racial agitation. BLT is nothing but the mutated Marx virus, now deeply nestled in the body of a new host. In Chicago radical circles, even a sinister egomaniac like Father Michael Pfleger can openly inflame racial hatred against Hillary Clinton (!), and the Catholic diocese can't even fire him. The infectious virus has taken over the host.

Obama's campaign is just filled with little inside references to Communism. The speech in Berlin began with the words, "Citizens of the World!" --- a blatant echo of Marx and Engels' most famous slogan, "Workers of the World, Unite!" -- the last line of the Communist Manifesto. That's not close to the American tradition of political speech-making. It's pure 19th century Europe. Marx and Engels were Prussians, imbued with the Prussian sense of imperialist superiority. Berlin is the capital of Prussia, and became the capital of the united German Reich, cobbled together by Otto Bismarck.

The European Union is a quintessential Bismarckian enterprise, and Bismarck was the original model for the worldwide imperialism of Marx. Yes, things went off the tracks a little bit in the Third Reich, but so what? Anybody can make a few bloopers. That's why the European Left loves Obama: They recognize him as one of their own. He gives out all those old beloved signals. Barack Obama is emphatically not a politician in the American mold. He is an alien in a very profound cultural sense."




OBAMA....GLOBALISM'S MARXIST MESSIAH !!

"Obama organized his rally of 200,000 Berliners in front of the Prussian war monument. The whole Marx-worshipping Left understands that. It's like Martin Luther King giving his speech in front of the Lincoln Memorial. The location is the message."

new ad
this is the ad they need to run using "main street americans."
senator obama, do you think you are better than me? do you think I do not deserve to see your records from harvard, columbia, or community organizing? When I ask, I am smeared and am called a racist by the media. Why is it okay for you to not answer my questions and have the media instead discuss mccain being out of touch.I asked a question on one thing and got a completely different answer.
senator obama, do you think I am stupid. You sound so presidential espousing your tax ideas but the reality is that over and over and over again you have raised taxes, why do I have to believe that you will cut them this time (because you want something) you will magically change course and lower my taxes. I am asking this to you. you never answer, chris matthews just makes some negative remark about mccain and that is supposed to be the answer I am supposed to be satisfied with. and thatis?
Becaue you are exempt from answering? I don't get it; the answer to obama's tax question is is not because mccain is 72. I want an answer that makes sense and i am not a racist
senator obama, you sat on the sidelines when the regulatory report on fannie and freddie came out even though you were up to your neck with acorn. You got one of those very special"Chris dodd special rate mortgages" and then did a shady deal with the reszcos. You never supported mccains legislation for more oversight. you sat on the side. Again, you must think us "Main street americans" are really stupid because you totally make up a lie about how you were in the forefront of rgfulataton in the senate. I don't want a story about mccains 7 houses, when you can't explain about 1 house.

you get the gist of these ads; they have to state the facts and then slam the media so they are boxed in and obama is boxed in and made to answer

ellen
Don't worry. We already defeated the U.S.SOCAILIST.R. once during the "COLD WAR" and we can do it again! Or did we, since we never stopped pointng our missles at each other, which proves we at least "ban"-ned "the" atomic "bomb" which is slow and useless, but not the Nuclear missle, which only takes thirty minutes to deliver to it's target then in a flash of light and one one millionth of a second later,enemy humanely vaporized with the rest left to deal with a mushroom cloud and fallout. "RIGHT NOW" we need to take care of these publically(on T.V.) unstable RED communist sympathizers who I know for a fact(advertised publically and on TELEVISION, just ask McCain,I noticed he was there and his Secret Service agents were in fact nervous) WE do not trust to have their fingers on "the button" anymore. Enjoy your visit with your Bejing buddies George Herbert Walker Bush. WE WILL BE WATCHING YOU VERY CLOSELY FROM NOW ON! SEE. YOU ARE MORE NOW FAMOUS THAN YOUR FRIEND(witnessed publically and on t.v.), WILD BILL CLINTON, who actually promised to raise taxes, did and brought us 7(seven) years of peace and prosperity with a bonus trillion ($1,000,000,000,000.00 SURPLUS in the BLACK and not the RED)dollar SURPLUS! We sure do miss them "OLDEN DAYS".

ghwbushintextmessaging001011100*$%^&!@E$
"read my lips"

I'm Hallucinating:
McCain steps down for the sake of the country. Palin taps Buchanan for veep on the republican ticket....

...oh wait, McCain isn't interested in the sake of the country. It's all about John!

Sorry......never mind....


BETRAYAL OF CONSERVATIVE VALUES !!!!

I think Buchanan has surmised it correctly. Many Americans want to purge the Republican party of the do nothing Conservatives who have allowed this mess to happen. George W. Bush will go down in history as the President who killed Conservatism by acting more like a disciple of the New Deal than a Champion of Free Enterprise. The only difference is that this New Deal has gone GLOBAL. The foreign banks of China, Japan, and Europe have called in their loans and no longer wish to be left holding the bag for Americans who have continued to follow the philosophy of Marxist Econonmist John Maynard Keynes by borrowing more and more money in order to pay off their debts. The party is now over and most Americans will be forced to live within their means like our parents and grandparents once did before us. They should bury Keynesian Economics in England but unfortunately Paulson and Bernake continue to lend American Taxpayer money to bail out foreign banks and Paulson says he does not think Americans care anyhow.

Bush betrayed the Conservative values of the Republican Party by reversing the philosophy of small government to Big Government, from Fiscal Conservatism to spending like a drunken sailor, from Social Conservatism to Marxist Socialism. He turned his back on the founders of our country who said to mind your own business and started something called Nation Building.

Bill Clinton gave us a surplus at the end of his presidency but only because Newt Gingrich and the Contract with America folks were watching every penny and controlled the purse strings in case Clinton tried to go on a spending spree. It now appears that the Republicans only practiced this fiscal responsiblity in order to get into office because once they got into office with Bush as president they spent more money than any other democrat has ever spent on Government programs and the expansion of Government in order to infringe on our Constitutional Rights!

EVERYTHING IS GLOBALLY ORCHESTRATED!!!

This entire Global meltdown has happened in great unison as all parties involved have been in constant communication with each other. This entire fiasco has be orchestrated by a few GLOBAL ELITES who believe they know what is best for everyone and so we are all told to take a back seat and let them handle everything when they are the very criminals who have pushed this on the American people.

The CFR and its subsidiaries such as the Federal Reserve, the IMF and the World Bank have virtually no oversight by our government but continue to make the decisions that not only influence our foreign policy but economic policy too. The Federal Reserve was secretly planned on Jekyll by the Marxists of the CFR for the sole purpose in controlling the American economy throught the orchestrated sellout of American Economic Sovereignty that most of America has witnessed in the last thirty (30)days. For all of the polyannas who refuse to see the writing on the wall or label those who have warned about this cabal as conspiracy theorists....the joke is on you because you have refused to see the truth even when its right in front of you. There can be no doubt that American Liberty is being is being compromised by a few Greedy bankers who have gotten even more powerful as our own government has decided to Nationalize some of the lesser ones which basically gives more power to a few oligarchic elitists.

The founders warned us of this from the very beginning but we refused to see it. Now we are witnessing it before our very eyes. Even in our Presidential elections we see two (2)GLOBALISTS members of the same CFR establishment who have already stated that the year 2010 is the year that the North American Union will be formally established. Obama lies and talks about how he will do things to help Main Street America. He is a Marxist Globalist Lier. He will most likely win the Presidency because he is a better lier than John McCain.

The Global Oligarchs Power Grab !!

The founders warned us of this from the very beginning but we refused to see it. Now we are witnessing it before our very eyes. Even in our Presidential elections we see two (2)GLOBALISTS members of the same CFR establishment who have already stated that the year 2010 is the year that the North American Union will be formally established. Obama lies and talks about how he will do things to help Main Street America. He is a Marxist Globalist Lier.

Obama will most likely win the Presidency because he is a better lier than John McCain and most people will drink the koolade but just wait and see what he does when he gets into office. Folks...Marxist Socialism is a Global agenda and the words they have used for cover like Free Trade are nothing more than collectivist soundbites for the Cartels who run the show at the expense of America and Free Enterprise.

"read my lips"
"read my lips"WHO AM I? I AM .THE ONE' As foretold by the prophet. the creator of the MESSIaSH(-s)"the ONE. THE mccain? nO,THE ONE! o, the O Sama!?THE CHOSEN ONES INTO WHICH CAVE i CRAWL. O, iSA-EL. O Isreal. For we see a "LIGHT" AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL of human"(MORTAL_:) lore. Fairytale? who aM I!? Yes this is a good cave built on"rock"(a firm foundation of scripture lore:)....ad over there a wll on which to draw. Who am I?.......01...........110..........:)YHWH,,,,,,,,,,,................................000.....................................10000111100010-100001011100001001001001001001!?:)

"READ MY LIPS" wHO AM i?"read my lips"
EXCUSE ME ,please. as I go to listen to "THE ONE." AS i lay......."my soul to keep"....."Deliver(ence:)ME"( by The One they called Brightman:) Who am I, the one they called Sarah?!:)

tom
:0 TOM, THIS IS THE one they,he you, them ,they call only(!) in response youre replyFor Kaw K in WI
Subject: Can McCain Still Win?

"What the hell are you ranting about? I don't know if I should agree with you or chastise you severely. HUH?? !:)??"" yes , Iam the one called Kaw K in WI? You seem to be confused, today, as isee i am the one who is confused as well.
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TOM
cOUNTRYMEN, LEND ME YOUR EYES. i WAS JUST CENCORED IN THE LAND OF MILK AND HONEY AND TEXAS TEA DUE TO SOMETHING CALLED html.COM. SP sp simly put in english that everyONE WWW World wide understands said the Stern one on seriuos satalite by michael of the FCC.us.gov. A scribe, An anchorman?woman, just reported me the one they at townhall.com called Pat.

Who are you r. daltry
Who am I? A transformer? I now need to change streetnames,nicknames and adresses for I am the one. Who will I become?who am i? what is my ip adress which i said I could change any time I vote in secret ballot on November the forth, 008 A.D. yhwhtextme.

main st. americans
I just got off the phone with the ACLU and they informed me that as long as I sign My legal name on my government issued i.d. and note the exact time and date, my intellectual properties should be safe. M.Twain aka sam patriot YHWH WHO AMi? my real name on my birth certificate and on my social security(SS.I.D) is David D kerr who filed for divorce in 1996 a.d. Who am i? marek twain @10:2201,At the twelth DAY of october in the year of our LORD 2008, A.d. Who I am?

Can McCain Still Win?
I am now back as the "eNLIGHTENED ONE" fresh out of the 40+ Focus Centers nationwide and alaska and Hawaii. or were they visiting me at the speed of light without a warrant. Who am I? tHe ONE? The answer is "NO!"

" I am waiting or was it i'll wait"i jus
t quoted "Kat" Williams of the movie "American Hustle" my favorite don't u cee?Who am I? Caucasoid, Negroid, or Mongo loyde? Just ask the scientist with the Savage Nation PHd. in nutrition. Rush 2112 room time. Who Am i? A Minute man......a Patriot>

6 billion sold at the golden arches whom
I hope toreach with this book of prophecy. Six Billion citizens owe $700,000,000,000.00 to Washington, D.C. and Wall Street to be paid in full before the next generation arrives in sudetenland Security by order of the office of President.who Am i, king George?

Tom
Are you going to "chastise" me< really? my name is David D kerr of the land of many lakes who worships Billy Graham As a C.I.(confidential infor mant ) for the wau. P.d> divorced in 1996FA001353 A.D. in the year of our Lord. You did try throwing me in jail twice usin the Rev. Billy Graham and Nicole A. P as your false bearers of witness. Now their is a benchwarrant issued just once by a direct descendent of King Solomon Called Laura on the internet titled court Official. I wonder If the waukesha sherrif of nottingham will do as he is directed then I can confirm through wak. mil., wi nypd that I as the snitch who captured me at amw.com according to the one we call john W......Who Am I, Really? David D kerr Wanted @ amw for childsupport. $5,000.00 paid to Wall street in full. This will definitly save our world economy Sen. shrub. wHo am I? I only had to try once to throw you in jail in the land of the brave trained by Uncle Sam who said I Want U Dave Kerr. Who am? yhwh

Who Are You Saith The Who
Now, how do u like me now R.I.C.O hed detective william(aka lil' Billy on the layground) Graham Cheif Gangst Rapper of the wpd. Say 'HI' to Joe B. and then there was three. Who Am I?YHWH in text msg.internet on the ww.f

The weakest link
Know your enemies said the Japanese after a mushroom cloud in The Greatest Generation of the war to end all wars WWII, then went on to land on the moon marking the distance traveled by hu-man according to the Guiness Book Of World Record with yet to be recycled archaic technology(Apollo 13 + times) Can we still win the space race with the Light bulb at the Smithsonian Institute? Can we make it farther than 220 miles with a broken toilet under warrantee that we paid for in the generation that went boom? Who?yhwh

Health Threat Level ROY G BIV
I now need to inform the Rev. Billy Graham that he was diagnosed with diabetes which the voters at 51% majority ballot decided not to support with your civil servant's quarters pension. See it was just that easy at the spd of lite. wai? yhwh txt KNOW YOUR ENEMY silent majority

new
The most Reverend William g. will be leaving Dave's Restuarant at exactly !:00 p.m. evryday after having been served by his other confidetial informant we'll just call pam, better than cooking oil, until she exposes her weakest link. she already has. Watch out fbi in D.C.I think I'm onto a conspiracy of silence covered under the R>I>C>O ACT. that's right Hoover," the mafia does not exist" amoungst your ranks after ABSCAM. Who am i?yhwh Do Not Trust The Milwaukee FBI that reside in Waukesha county U.s.A. ther leader is the sherrif of nottingham, lombardi who accepted a house from developer Brice stysa.

Can McCain Still Win?
NO! I just got done outlining corruption at all levels of govt. of those on main st. who identify these individuals self admittedly as repulicans and democrats who, if I put my words together right along with the proper punctuation can prove with the MRI machine created by GE that I, David D Kerr once said"Old enough to Bleed, old enough to Breed" I think i be responsible and tell john walsh to help me keep him away from my 12 or 13 year old daughter of EVE. Sounds like a genetic defect for which there is no cure other than informed prevention. Isn't that right Nicole ann P. who once tried to convince King Solomon that I was a rapist under the direction of D kerr and b Graham all the while having King Solomon deny me my right to be represented by a lawyer from the ACLU Three times I asked, then the that's rooster,(fight St. Peter) crowed. I also know who that ourt commisioner is still> who am I? Am the One?yhwh

Trogs Do Not Exist in Waukesha County
Isn't that right President Stolsmarc, who has had 13 dui's+(daughter of EVE called MADD) and still is able to train judge Ramirez and the waukesha police corps. courtesy of the reverend billy Graham. who aM eye?YHWH Time to go to the history section of the libray to reference the Text known as the HOLY BIBLE document in order to complete the phrase the ________ crwed three times.....codex of morally majority that is atheist. yhwh

Conservative DeadBeat Parent LAW upheld
so far not yet. On my way to the library of Alexandria I shall stop off at the courthose at the speed of light to actually see from "spice room" if the dead beat dad aka David D Kerr has been served by the MOST Reverend Billy Graham. This law could be the hat McCain could wear in order to accept the civil service position of the oval office of PRESIDENT> who made who? I am. 1. yhwhtext.me

can mccain still win? let us see, Rev. B
David D. Kerr vs Christine Marie Kerr
Waukesha County Case Number 1996FA001353
Court Record Events
What is RSS?
Date Event Court Official Court Reporter
1 10-10-2008 Bench Warrant Civil Authorized Florian Lau, Laura
Event Party Amount
Kerr, David D. $ 5000.00
Additional Text:
For David Kerr
2 10-10-2008 Contempt order Florian Lau, Laura
Additional Text:
Default Finding of Contempt and Order for Commitment for David Kerr signed by Court Commissioner Laura Lau October 8, 2008. Ratified and Confirmed by Judge Donald J. Hassin Jr. on October 10, 2008.
3 10-08-2008 Post-judgment order to show cause hearing Florian Lau, Laura Electronic Court Recording
Additional Text:
10/8/08 Room# 274 ECR 11:43 a.m.
Atty. Daniel Sielaff appears in person on behalf of the Child Support Enforcement Agency. No other appearances. The State makes a statement on the record, no payments have been made since January 2008. The Court will find David Kerr in contempt by default and will sentence him to 90 days with Huber privileges. The Court will issue a capias for David Kerr. The purge is set at $5,000.00. Minutes. Account History Report.
4 10-08-2008 Change of address notification
Event Party
Kerr, David D.

Additional Text:
ADDRESS INFO for David D. Kerr
Current: 1350 Ellis St #C, Waukesha, WI 53186 United States (Effective: 10-08-2008)
Prior: 1350 Ellis St #3, Waukesha, WI 53186 United States
5 09-04-2008 Capias filed Florian Lau, Laura
Additional Text:
Original capias/warrant returned from WCSD for David Kerr signed by Court Commissioner Laura Lau on August 13, 2008.
6 09-04-2008 Change of address notification
Event Party
Kerr, David D.
Additional Text:
ADDRESS INFO for David D. Kerr
Current: 1350 Ellis St #3, Waukesha, WI 53186 United States (Effective: 09-04-2008)
Prior: 1350 Ellis, Waukesha, WI 53186 United States.

Rev.billy graham
See sherriff of nottingham. there is the civil order. check w/ billy. he knows where his playmate lil' davey the c.i. is at. who am i?yhwh#1

perjury
As I read this text message of the bench warrant of confidential informant for the narcotics dept David d. Kerr, I can't help but notice the number of times he may have committed purjury as I googled his current address and noticed it is a business owned by a Daughter of EVE. I am the One david d kerr, ci for rev. billy. Who am i?YHWH

MY SINCERE APOLOGIES TO THE LES PAUL
PARKWAY LOCATED HERE IN WAUKEESHA, WISCANSUN POPULATION 65,000 LOST SOULS.....SAALLUUTTE,HEE HAW STYLE...... FOR HAVING EMBARRASSED YOU AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE OF 6,000,000,000 EARTHLINGS WORLD WID WEB.COM
SIGNED ELECTRONICALLY @ THE SPEED OF LIGHT,

DAVID D. KERR, CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT FOR THE REVEREND BILLY GRAHAM AT THE WAUKEESHA p.d.

morning prayer to the creator of the one
ALL GL911RY AND PRAISE TO THE MCCAIN,CREATOR OF MESSIAHS AND THE ONE, GIVER OF YOUTH, MIRACULOUS HEALER OF THE DISEASE WE CALL DEATH VIA LEGISLATION, RESSURECTOR OF THE DEAD. YEA, O, ISREAL, ALL GLO911RY AND PRAISE TO THE MCCAIN AND THE ONE CALLED PALIN. END TRANS MISSION. AMEN. YHWH XT.ME

LET US ALL WAIT AND SEE IF I HAVE JUST C
OMPLETED THE LARGEST MILITARY BUILD UP IN THE GUINESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORD HISTORY. AN ARMY 6,000,000,000 PEOPLE STRONG. THAT'S A MILITARY RESPONSE IN THE COMMENTS SECTION OF TOWNHALL.COM BY AN ARMY SIX BILLION STRONG.

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NO ONE HUMAN CAN BEAT THE WORLD RECORD SETTING TIME OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT CREATED BY GOD ,ALLAH?,BUDDA, RA ISIS JESUS THE ONE AS RECORDED IN THE BOOK CALLED"iN THE BEGINNING.........." YES AN ARMIE 6 BIL. STRTONG @ TOWN HALL DOT COM.

w/ ALLMY DEVINEINTERVENTION, THE ONE, THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, YHWH WHO AM I? CAN MCCAIN STILL WIN? WE WILL NOW ALL SEE. THE WORLD.
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