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Friday, May 16, 2008
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Lost Tribes of Israel
by Pat Buchanan
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As Israel enters its 61st year, Israelis may look back with pride. Yet, the realists among them must also look forward with foreboding.

Israel is a modern democracy with the highest standard of living in the Middle East. In the high-tech industries of the future, she is in the first rank. From a nation of fewer than a million in 1948, Israel's population has grown to 7 million. In seven wars -- the 1948 War of Independence, the Sinai invasion of 1956, the Six-Day War of 1967, the Yom Kippur War of 1973, and the Lebanon wars of 1982 and 2006 -- Israel has prevailed, though some of these wars were, as Wellington said of Waterloo, "a damn near-run thing."

Israel has revived Hebrew, created a new currency, immersed her children in the history, ancient and modern, of her people, and established a homeland for Jews from all over the world, millions of whom have migrated there to settle. Israel is now home to the largest concentration of Jews anywhere on earth.

Here, however, we come to the heart of the existential crisis.

Israel became home to the largest Jewish population on earth in part because American Jews in the 1990s fell in number from 5.5 million to 5.2 million, a loss of 300,000, or 6 percent of the U.S. Jewish population.

According to Charles Krauthammer, by 2050, the U.S. Jewish population will have shrunk another 50 percent to 2.5 million. American Jews are slowly vanishing. How and why is this happening?

It is the collective decision of American Jews themselves, who have led the battles for birth control and a woman's right to choose.

As Jews were roughly 2 percent of the U.S. population from Roe v. Wade to today, perhaps 2 percent of the 50 million legal abortions since Roe were likely performed on Jewish girls or women, resulting in 1 million lost members of the Jewish community in 35 years.

And if demography is destiny, Israel's future, too, appears grim.

As former Ambassador Zalman Shoval writes, Israel's population of 7 million is 80 percent Jewish. But the Palestinian population of Israel has risen to 20 percent and is growing much faster.

One Israel blogger, using Shoval's totals, writes that among the Israeli population between 1 and 4 years old, roughly 30 percent is Arab. The future of Israel is thus increasingly Arab and less Jewish.

According to the United Nations, by 2050, Israel will have 10 million people.

By then, the Arab population, at present birth rates, is likely to be close to 30 percent of the Israeli population. On the West Bank and Gaza, today's 4 million Arabs are to explode to 10 million, far outstripping the growth in Israel. Jordan's population of 5 million, 60 percent Palestinian, will also double to 10 million.

Thus, not even counting Palestinians in Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria and the Gulf states, Israel's 7 million to 8 million Jews in 2050 will be living with 13 million Palestinians in Israel, Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank. If Israel is to survive as a Jewish state, a separate and independent Palestinian state would seem an imperative.

Yet, as Israelis continue to build outposts and expand and add settlements, the possibility of a Palestinian state recedes. Indeed, many Israelis, seeing what an end to the occupation produced in Gaza, refuse to consider any pullout at all from the West Bank.

Such a policy of holding on and digging in is sometimes the best one -- but only if time is on one's side. Is time on Israel's side?

According to the world population statistics from the National Policy Institute, the worldwide Arabic population in 1950 was only 94 million, less than 4 percent of the world population. But by 2050, it will be 700 million, 7 percent of a world population of almost 10 billion.

According to U.N. population experts, Lebanon's population will grow to 5 million in 2050, but Syria's will almost double from today's 20 million to 34 million. The population of Saudi Arabia will rise from 24 million to 45 million. Egypt will grow by more than 50 million to 121 million Egyptians by 2050. The Islamic Republic of Iran, 71 million today, is expected to reach 100 million at mid-century.

And, demography aside, the Islamic faith of Israel's neighbors is becoming militant. Hamas now controls Gaza. Hezbollah now controls Southern Lebanon and is becoming the power in Beirut. While Egypt is headed by a pro-American autocrat, the principal rival for power is the widely popular Muslim Brotherhood.

Those who do not like the Saudi monarchy should consider what is likely to rise in its place, should the House of Saud fall. The same is true of the Jordanian and Moroccan monarchies, and the sheikdoms, emirates and sultanates of the Persian Gulf.

In any struggle of generations, the critical question is often: Whose side is time on? As President Bush celebrates Israel's 60th birthday, and is celebrated in turn as Israel's best friend ever, it is a fair question to ask.

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Israel
Israel isn't going anywhere. God's purposes will not be thwarted.

Israel will still exist when Christ returns and they will at last recognize their Messiah.


Read Ezekiel 38/39.

A breeding war?
Is that what this planet has come to? White people as the minority!!! OH NO! Have more babies! We don't care what your quality of life will be. Oh, and don't look at us for any help even though we told you that having an abortion would send you to hell and you believed us, and now you are in poverty for the rest of your life. Just keep pumping out those kids...because Pat's great-great-grandchildren might be called racists when vote for the ONLY white candidate that is running for POTUS 60 years from now.

Amazing.

Republicans have no problem allowing future generations to inherit debt and pollution, just as long as they stay the majority nothing else matters to them.





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hey Mathew
I can understand where by reading Pat's article you would think Republicans are racist and fear becoming a minority. I'd like to correct you on at least two assumptions that are in error in your post.
1) White european folks have always been THE Minority race throughout World History.

2) Pat hardly speaks for most Republicans, He has in fact left the party some time ago.

Oh yeah, one more thing I noticed. A couple of recent articles of Pat's have been bemoaning the demographic changes predicted to be upcoming in the near future(50 years or so). I would respectfuly submit that having more babies of one skin color or other is neither a solution or a problem. For it is the ideas and ideals that decide the proseperity of generations not wether their skin be a certain shade. Pat does a fine job of confusing the two issues


Will the day come when the *N* word
is not N but *C* (as in cracker)?
Or when hate crimes are prepatrated ON Whites

I predict that on the day that the LAST White man/woman turns 21, the LAST Jesse Jackson will DEMAND reparations - at least enough to support his mistress.

Hi Doug
Thanks for the info.

America will always be America. It doesn't matter what color the majority is.

Pat seems to fear that some sort of revenge will take place. I predict the opposite. I foresee a much more compassionate majority of the future. Those who lived great injustices rarely like to see it thrust upon others.


What Nazis couldn't acheive


The fact that Jews are exterminating themselves through abortion is remarkable and utterly baffling.

Matthew

News flash - Democrats have the majority. Now who are you going to blame?

How American People Rank
the US Closest Allies

1. Great Britain
2. Canada
3. Australia
4. Israel
5. Japan

6.Mexico
7.Italy
8.South Korea
9.Germany
10.Sweden

11.Spain
12.Holland (Netherlands)
13.Taiwan
14.India
15.Norway

16.France
17.Greece
18.Brazil
19.Russia
20.South Africa

21.Chile
22.Colombia
23.Argentina
24.Pakistan
25.China

The Harris Poll® #70, September 14, 2005
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID= 600
____________________

Middle East Sympathie. Feb. 6-9 2006. The Gallup Organization, Princeton, NJ

by Religious Preference:
Israel % / Arabs %

White Protestants
63 / 14

White Catholics
64 / 13

White other religions
Israel % / Arabs %

66 / 10

White no religion
Israel % / Arabs %

45 / 19

__

by Party Affiliation:
(2002-2006 Aggregate)
Israel % / Arabs %

Republicans
72 / 11

Democrats
47 / 20

Independents
49 / 16

____

by Ideology:
(2002-2006 Aggregate)
Israel % / Arabs %

Conservatives
67 / 11

Liberals
43 / 25

Moderate
52 / 16
___

by Race:
(2002-2006 Aggregate)
Israel % / Arabs %

Whites
58 / 14

Blacks
40 / 24


Nobody and nothing is on Israel's side
That's why Bush can give them a two-state solution with terrorists being one of the states.

Doug
Pat Buchanan might argue he did not leave the GOP. The GOP left him.

And I think he might be right.

On the matter of "skin color demographics" being a phony issue, and your contention that having more babies of one skin color or another is neither a solution nor a problem, try peddling that nonsense to those besieged whites(and few blacks)on our Mexican border.

Examine statistics on numbers of Hispanic births in Los Angeles...ratios to white and other groupings.

You state, "ideas and ideals decide prosperity of generations...not skin color".

How sociologically doctrinaire.

In fact, the ideals and ideas possessed by the hordes of Hispanic immigrants(legal and otherwise)on our southern border are turning huge areas into non-English speaking zones where crime is epidemic, and where the native whites either adopt the alien culture, or flee.

Economic conditions in those areas have deteriorated.

I do think you are correct white Europeans have always been the minority throughout world history.

And I think it quite remarkable this minority has had such a seismic effect upon mankind.. thru its achievements, discoveries..totally out of proportion to its minsicule numbers.

The world is much indebted to those dreaded blue-eyed white devils!

I would not so cavalierly write off their achievements.

Perhaps skin color, or race, might NOT be unrelated to such achievements.

How politically incorrect is that!

In the Midst of Their Enemies
What Pat doesn't say but which is quite evident is that demographic trends are dooming the state of Israel. Islam and Christianity grew, partly through conversion of the "heathen" by sword or persuasion. Israel and the Jewish population, by and large, have grown only through their natural progeny.

Numbers and population trends are implacable. Any possible future of Israel depends on the conversion of the Muslims surrounding the state, highly unlikely, or a sea change in the Muslims' fanatical drive to convert all nonbelievers or kill them, which undoubtedly will happen but only after decades of murderous jihads.

Israel was a dream that became reality in 1948 but now is morphing into a nightmare.

Curios
how all these things, including the very existence of the Jewish race, exactly parallels the prophetic writings in the Scriptures. Both the bitter and the sweet.

But the myopic will continue to insist there is no connection as the time to the final conflict approaches.

2050
given that Iran seems unstoppable by today's leaders in its quest for nuclear weapons, why should one believe there will be a world in 2050?
the mad mullahs do not love life like the old Soviets did; they seek their place with Allah.
plus, Eygpt (and none of the Arab nations absent their oil wealth) can feed her population now; with the growth figures of this article, would someone tell me how they will feed all of those new mouths?
is this an Israeli problem, or a global problem?

More on Demographics
I've been in Brooklyn recently, and while Jews whose beliefs are an amalgam of Marx, Freud, and [highly altered] Zen Buddhism are aborting their future, it seems that there are whole streets where you have to be careful lest you trip over flocks of skullcapped, sidelocked Chasidic kids. White Evangelicals also seem to be "making more room at the table", too.

It seems to me that the secularist liberal tribe wants to go extinct.

secularism and demographics
I too sense some sort of a revival is occurring among religions.

I would include the growing appeal(among Muslims)of fundamentalist Islam as part of that phenomenon.

There may be a relationship between secularism and declining populations. I don't think there is much doubt on that.

We see that among indigenous(white)Europeans, for instance.

Albania, a Muslim state in Southeastern Europe, is about the only European state(there may be one or two more)whose population is not declining. It probably has more in common with Islam(70%+ of its population is Muslim)than with the secularism of Western Europe.

On Iran, while it may be fashionable to conclude Iran is hellbent on destroying the world, how many military attacks have the Iranian mullahs launched since the 1979 revolution?

The conventional wisdom(of their desire for suicide)may be wrong.

For almost 30 years now they have not committed suicide.

They are acutely aware of their Persian heritage, a great civilization that lasted for centuries.

Why do we assume their instincts are now for self-destruction?

I know many zealots think they are.

But how much of what they think is based on hype, and how much on rational assessment?

Notice, I did not say Iran is not causing mischief in the mideast. I am only saying I question the view they covet nuclear annihilation.

A game of numbers --
For Israel it's a game of numbers -- dwindling numbers on the Jewish side, burgeoning numbers on the Arabic side. Within a generation or two, a government will be seated that will make the question of Israel a moot one. As all young Israelis serve mandatory military service, and are sworn in at Masada with a vow never to see Masada fall again, it's inconceivable to me that there will not be a last stand at some point.

Pat, Jewish women
have the lowest abortion rate in America. Pat, Catholic women have more abortions than Jews! Leave it to Buchanan, the Jew hater, to blame abortions on Jews! And Pat, Orthodox Jews, have as many as 10 children and more.

Leave it to Pat,
the Jewhater, to work in abortion! Orthodox women have many, many children and more Jews are turning to orhodoxy. By the way, Pat: abortion supporter Ted Kennedy belongs to YOUR religion.

Pat Buchanan
is nothing but a shill for MSNBC. He jumped on the Bush attacked Obama wagon, when Obama nor his momma were even mentioned. I guess Pat needs th money.

I wonder why liberals automatically jump to the conclusion that the appeaser is Obama, and no one else? Seems to me that buck toothed fool Carter was just talking to Hamas. Obama is a political neophite and an empty suit. That liberals will nominate him speaks volumes about just how bankrupt the democrat party has become. Pat and the democrats are morally bankrupt.

To jerabaub
Buchanan did leave the Republican Party, not the other way around. For those old enough to remember, too often Buchanan's foreign policy pronouncements sound like George McGovern's isolationsim ("Come Home America").

When I read columns like this one by Buchanan, I don't mind that Buchanan left the Republican Party. Behind the discussion of demographics, Buchanan's real message is stated at the end in the form of a question: on whose side is time between Israel and the Arab world? The unspoken question is: why should America back Israel (the losing side)?

BUCHANAN'S SISTER IS A MORMON!
Speaking of the Lost Tribes of Israel, I still have no idea why Pat Buchanan's sister converted to the wacky, out-of-this-world faith of Mormonism.

The tenth Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints [Mormon] Article of Faith states, in part, “We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the [lost] Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent...” That's a good one--just like spirit babies; men becoming gods of their own planet; Jesus and Satan were brothers; etc.

Besides "nice family values," what on earth was Bay Buchanan thinking when she went over to the Mormons?

Matthew
"America will always be America"

What sort of jibberish is that? How do you define America? If you think that a bunch of radical Islamists or a world of socialists won't impose poverty on you and yours, you were obviously educated in an American public school.

Our world has always had socialist countries ad nauseum. All of the socialists in the U.S. could go make their home in any of those countries, but they prefer to subvert America instead. Why? Because America has SO MUCH WEALTH TO STEAL, that's why. Trouble is, these fools are so clueless about economics they don't understand where this wealth comes from. I guess the libs think it all fell off a tree somewhere, and all they have to do is pick it up.

I don't give a hoot what color someone's skin is. I care about their politics. Are they going to destroy what has given more people the best standard of living in the history of the world by demanding a Zorro type government that takes from the producers to reward the unproductive? If that's what they want, let them go live somewhere else where that is already being tried. And failing.

Memo: From God
Hi folks, this is God. Just wanted to clear things up a bit here and note that the Jews aren't really my chosen people. I mean, if they want to have a tiny, threatened, nuclear-tipped Alamo in the middle of the desert, that's cool, but believe me, it wasn't my idea.
Oh, btw, I don't really have any "chosen people" per se... though I have always gotten a kick out of those Anabaptists.

Pat Buchanan is no friend of Israel
Pat Buchanan is one of the worst enemies of Israel and the Jewish People in general, and has been for decades. First of all, his demographic premise is flawed and assumes that population growth is linear, when in fact, in the Middle East, Arab population growth rates are in decline. But that misrepresentation doesn't bother Pat because he just wants to batter Israel over settlements, which he disapproves of and wants us to believe are an obstacle to peace between Israel and the Arabs. Secondly, he posits that the Arabs are becoming more radicalized and thus more dangerous to Israel, so again Israel must adapt her policies to appease them, and somehow Israeli settlements are causing this problem too. Finally, Pat suggests that a Palestinian state would cure all the regions ills, and it's only Israeli intransigence which is preventing this. I would like to assume that Pat is just ignorant or uninformed and doesn't know that the Arab world and the Palestinians couldn't care less about a Palestinian state but are implacably intent on the genocide of the Jews here and the destruction of our democratic and progressive Jewish State. But if I believed that I would simply be acting naive, because Pat Buchanan has despised the Jewish State of Israel from it's beginning and hates the Jewish People with a passion only surpassed by people like the Iranian leader Achmadinejad or the Hizballah leader Nasrallah. I am familiar with Pat Buchanan's hatred of the Jews for years and he would have us believe that he somehow cares about the future of Israel when he truly wishes, like Achmadinejad that our little country would be destroyed. I for one am not fooled by Pat Buchanan.

Interesting
This column is kind of the flip side of Krauthammer's similarly titled one. Krauthammer starts with an accurate account of the fact that it is normal for ethnic groups to disappear into the broader population, while Buchanon portrays this as a crisis that jews are bringing on themselves through their decisions to have small families.

But after that, Buchanan actually gives a much more accurate account of the situation that Israel faces. Even Sharon before his stroke had come to terms with the population time bomb that Israel faces. If Israel wants to survive as a jewish state it should be thinking of smaller borders not expanded settlements. And that is not just true from the perspective of morality, but from the perspective of self-preservation.

Israel could survive indefinitely with something like the '67 borders or the Geneva accords adjustments to them. But it cannot survive indefinitely while trying to control the occupied territories.

Phil Byler
I think Reagan said it best.

"I did not leave the Democratic party. The Democratiic party left me".

I think Buchanan can make a similar case regarding the Republican party.

By the way, it is not just me who thinks that.

Republican party identification is at all-time low percentage of the electorate.

Numerous reasons for that, but one of the chief reasons has to be American peoples' rejection of the party's standard-bearer, G.W. Bush.

Bush and big-spending GOP congress squandered the legacy of Ronald Reagan.


How Do You Count?
Israeli's can hold dual citizenship, both US and Israel. Is there double counting going on here? I question. If the Israeli's were to believe their Nation was truly threatened with extinction, would they not flood the US using passport #2? I question. I do not know but race and ethnicity's are so jumbled in meaning and understanding, I trust nothing I read about race and demography. Hispanic is carried as a race on census documents but a very large percentage of Hispanics are European immigrants, just like the majority of Americans. Example: 97% of Argentinians are Italian, Spanish, or German but the country is 100% Hispanic.

JEWISH HUMOR

.....PAT ...

.....A Jewish friend of mine drove a Cadillac he called the Yom Kippur Clipper ...it stopped on a dime and then picked it up ...hahaha .....COLOSSUS

Importing Jews and abortion
The declining population of Jews within their own nation is due partly to their national view of abortion. It is not accurate that about 46,000 abortions are performed in Israel every year? Instead of importing all the Jews from Ethiopia, why not stop the internal slaughter? The importation of Jews approximates the number of Jews aborted.
How and why does Israel continues to suffer these self-inflicted wounds?
Government of Israel, stop killing the seed of Abraham.

I wonder
If Americans knew about Israel selling advanced weapons to China (who do you think produced those air-to-air missiles on Wang Wei's J8 that crashed into the American EP-3 Orion back in 2001), the numerous attempts of Israeli spying on the US, oh and of course we can go back to the USS Liberty as well, perhaps it would rank far lower than #4. Israel isn't an ally of the US, Israeli is an ally of Israel.

The numbers are not God
?from Judges 7:
"The LORD said to Gideon, "You have too many men for me to deliver Midian into their hands. In order that Israel may not boast against me that her own strength has saved her, 3 announce now to the people, 'Anyone who trembles with fear may turn back and leave Mount Gilead.' " So twenty-two thousand men left, while ten thousand remained."
...and then God further reduced the number to 300.

The numbers are not God
?from Judges 7:
"The LORD said to Gideon, "You have too many men for me to deliver Midian into their hands. In order that Israel may not boast against me that her own strength has saved her, 3 announce now to the people, 'Anyone who trembles with fear may turn back and leave Mount Gilead.' " So twenty-two thousand men left, while ten thousand remained."
...and then God further reduced the number to 300.

Pat's Views
No. 1) Pat has always been against all abortions. He has certainly been outspoken about fellow Catholics, like Ted Kennedy, who are pro-choice.

No. 2) Where is the proof of Pat being an anti-Semite? Pat is an anti-Semite because he sometimes dares to take realistic views of Israel's policies and U.S. policy toward Israel?

Center of the Storm
It's always difficult to discuss Israel rationally. But it is the rock that we've been pushing up the hill in the Middle East since it was handed to us by the British. Demographics, of course, are one of the issues that we will increasingly deal with. Since, however, capitalism is a component of Democracy, and Islam denies the basic tenets of capitalism, I'm not as sanquine as some that the Arab world, after 13 centuries, will forsake the Koran in order to adopt Democracy. Most of these countries cannot support the people they have - yet they keep adding them in ever greater numbers. Starvation and dependency are the inevibable future of many of these regions - because they do not seem to grasp the fundamentals of birth control nor connect it to the amount of food they will need, let alone the other resources that they do not have. And finally, to modern economies. This isn't just about Israel, it's about an increasing number of Palestinian like states incapable of supporting themselves - creating ever greater numbers of poverty stricken people who, like those in Sudan and Chad, rely ever more on the West.

Perhaps the ultimate irony of it all, is that they, in their desperation, turn increasingly to religion - and to their mullahs, who in turn, become increasingly shrill in their denunciations of the West. Refusing to accept that their salavation lies not in the Koran, which influcences their economic life - but in the West. Which the Mullahs have chosen to blame. And at the center of that storm lies Israel.

Khazaria
It is historically reported the Khazars converted to Judaism in the 8th-9th century AD(CE). Are the Khazars members of the 12 tribes of Israel? Do the Khazars share in the Covenant God promised Abraham? What percentage of the Jews of current day Israel can be traced to the 12 tribes and what percent of the Jews of Israel are converts without biblical connection to ancient Israel and God's covenant? It is important in this context to recognize God's Covenant is with the Israelites, not the Jews. The Jewish religion did not exist until 400-500 years (est) after Moses.

Redlac
Generally agree, altho I think Islam does not deny the tenets of capitalism as much as it denies the tolerance and pluralism, respect for dissent, so essential to democracy.

Your point on demographics in the Muslim world is valid. And I don't think many posters understand the implications of that..not just in terms of Israel, but in terms of the entire area of the world(and increasingly even in Europe)where Islam is dominant, or is projected to become dominant.

But it is interesting that while poverty and lack of opportunity may increase the allure of radicalism in the Muslim world, infinitely worse poverty and lack of opportunity in sub-Saharan(non Muslim)Africa has not had the same effect.

So it may not be poverty, but Islam itself that is the problem.

Some would argue with you that Israel is not at the center of the storm, and that even if Israel did not exist, the West would still face a hostile Islam.

I don't know. Perhaps.

But I think we both agree that the fundamental problem with Islam is its inability to integrate successfully in the modern world.

And I don't think Bush's naivete in foisting Western notions of governance, at great cost in lives and economic health to our Beloved Republic, is a viable option, without Islam itself renouncing its core beliefs.

Of course that's anti-Semetic
Everyone knows any and all criticism of Israel and/or their policies means you're anti-semetic.

The demographic results come from a natural course of things. They're in the Middle East!! They should have known that would happen to begin with. Put a country in Africa and be surprised when you're surrounded by Africans? Or, start a country in Asia and wonder why you're being outnumbered by the Asians?? LOL!!!

In their attempt to "keep Israel Jewish", they've been able to get away with stuff that is really contrary to today's American standards and values.

Probably means I'm anti-semetic now. Guess I'm supposed to close my eyes.

Secular people don't reproduce
That's a generalization, of course. But the majority of American Jews are secular, and hold a Leftist worldview. Bearing children is not an important piece of that view.

And how many Israelis are devout Jews? Many more hold a similar worldview, just like their neighbors across the Mediterranean in Europe. Again, bearing children is not as important to them.

On the other hand, most Muslims are devout enough to believe in the Scriptural injunction that they share with Christians and Jews to bear children. All three of our faiths consider it a blessing, a mitzvah, and whatever-the-heck the Arab word is for a blessing. So, of course, on average, they have higher birthrates, and are outpacing the Jews, and the rest of us in the West, in increasing their numbers.

That is one thing that should comfort us conservatives. If we can hold on, we'll also smother the Left by dint of numbers. So, start doin' it!

Hillary delenda est.

R.A.M.
Well, you said it first, but don't worry, you're in good company with Boutte and Nemecyst.

I also have a feeling you are most likely anti-Christian as well, but I could be incorrect. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say you were Muslim on a different thread and having an argument with posters regarding Jesus?


Jerabaub
to imply that the Republican Party left Pat would imply that Republican principles at one time during his lifetime supported the idea that skin color and place of origin trumped principle.

That's never been the position of the Republican Party in Pats lifetime. I would say that Pat writting this article and preceeding ones suggest that it is not the Republican Party that moved away from principles but that Pat holds ideals Republicans never have had.


Phil Byler...tease
Hey you got yourself set up for a blog column here... and yet still nothing. Yours being one of the worthwhile Postings at th I have been waiting eagerly to see some of your mussings.
I know you're a busy man but anywho just thought I'd see whats up.

Test
Test

Energy Independence
This country MUST move aggressively toward Energy Independence. We need a government that recognizes the risk we face and we must initiate a Manhattan Project on increasing our in-country energy sources. To accept a Federal Government that continues to knell to the ecofreaks and the "not in my back yard" advocates, is to accept a government that will allow the ultimate destruction of this republic.

There is no end in sight to the cost of oil. We will likely see $150 per barrel by late summer, with pump prices in excess of $5.00 per gal. Our country's economy cannot long survive oil in excess of $150 per barrel. Regardless of what the liberals claim, Big Oil has little control over crude prices, pricing power is increasingly in the hands of our Islamic enemies.

We must depend on carbon based energy for the next 20-25 years, even as we move toward alternative energy sources. We must dedicate all of our nation's capabilities to vastly increase our in-country oil and gas production. We MUST drill in ANWAR, we MUST drill offshore, we MUST develop our oil shales, we MUST cooperate with Canada and Mexico to maximize their production.

Increasing oil supply must be complimented by building new Nuclear Power Plants and increasing auto fuel economy to a REAL average of 40 mph (which can be done even without hybrids if the auto industry is issued a mandate to do so). For our government to refuse to address Energy Independence is criminal! We can't get there with ethanol, wind farms and solar power. To base our hopes on these fantasies is to condemn our children and grandchildren to a life of poverty.

Drilling in ANWR is BS..wont help
I know that this is a surprise to most. But, our problems aren't based on supply and demand. We have no supply problems. Demand is around the same or lower; but we have record prices.

Drilling in ANWR only gives the oil companies more resources to screw us with. They're charging us more than true market prices and keeping the difference; hence the record profits.


The Falling Population of Jews in the US
No, this isn't your favorite bed time story for some of our posters here, so move on, a Jew is speaking now.

I'm not disputing that the population of Jews has lowered, but coining it all on abortion I believe is false.

There are other factors to be sure, because Jews are very family oriented. They have children and lots of them...Their mother's would not forgive them if they did not give them grandchildren.

American Jews do use birth control. It's very important to them never to have children out of wedlock. It happens of course, people are human, even Jews to those of you who have trouble believing that. But to be sure, having children after marriage is how they like to roll.

Secondly, perhaps the population really hasn't gone down...A lot of Jews my age and younger do not distinguish themselves as a Jew because of rat minded idiots who believe they are sub-human. Some also do not call themselves a Jew because they were not raised on the religious teachings. So maybe they are out there, but you wouldn't know it because they don't wish to be found and live in peace.

Big Oil Not the Problem
So-called Big Oil may be making record profits for energy companies at about 9-11%, but their current profits are NOT out of line with other industries. By the way, at what percentage profit would you Liberals assess windfall profit taxes?

Our US based oil companies control less than 10% of worldwide oil reserves. Big oil does not set the price per barrel of light crude, it is set by the worldwide futures markets and the mid-eastern, Islamic Oil Giants via OPEC. Another critical issue is the falling dollar! If the dollar was on par with the Euro, the price of a barrel would be about $70 resulting a pump price in the US of about $2.70. This continuous focus and blame on Big Oil is simply obscuring the real problem that the US has lost control of the World's most valuable commodity and we are now at the mercy of our enemies; I don't see Exxon-Mobil as our enemy, but I do see Iran and Russia as less than friends.

Don't you Big Oil bashers understand that Exxon-Mobil doesn't wish to destroy the US, but that Iran, Russia and Venezuela are happy to use oil to seriously damage our economy! Big Oil is the solution, not the problem if they are permitted to develop our in-country energy sources.

Pat on parade
Yeah, Pat, it's the JOOZ that have abortions. It's not like non-Jews are having abortions. All by themselves, American Jews not only thought up abortion but are responsible for the 40+ million abortions since Roe v. Wade. Now, those are some BA-A-AD stats for a population barely exceeding 5 million.

The even-handed, unprejudiced way to observe that there are differing fertility rates across the world would recognize that "white Caucasians" in the wealthy industrial democracies have lower ones, and Jews are among those Caucasians in many nations. But Latinos and blacks in North America also have lower fertility rates than in Latin America and Africa -- while the United States, overall, maintains a higher fertility rate than the nations of Europe, or Russia. Such even-handed observation would also recognize that Japan's fertility rate is going through the floor, and China's is not far behind. Kind of hard to blame that on the JOOZ. Hard as it is for Pat to grasp, we can't pin falling fertility rates on race, ethnic background, creed, or, let's be frank, THE JOOZ.

Pat, let's hear you explain how the Irish are going to be all brown and speaking Arabic by the year 2100, because they're not breeding fast enough. It's true, you know. Ireland's fertility rate is below replacement level, and Middle Eastern Muslims are flooding the place. I just can't figure out why you would focus on the Jews here. Got me stumped.

Shells?
Shells...Is life worth living if you feel the need to hide who you are, for fear of the possible response of others? Why hide that you are a Jew? Why not be proud of your heritage and outwardly project that pride?

To each his own. You are free to live as you wish, but to hide that you are a Jew out of fear of what others will think of you...smacks of cowardice.

Buchanan’s defective weights and measure
The Arabs of the world, which you state will number 700 million by 2050, do not agree with your demographic analysis. By their reckoning, there will be the equivalent of at least 7 billion (7,000,000,000) Jews, or over 1,000 Jews for every Arab on the planet in 2050. You see Pat, they value Jews differently.

Over the last 30 years (per Wikipedia) the Palestinians have considered the lives of 7,000 of their men equivalent to 19 Israelis: In 1985, they valued the freedom of 1,150 of their own to three Israelis. In 1986, Hezballah would sell the dead bodies of two Israeli soldiers for no less than 123 terrorists. In 1998, one dead Israeli solder cost 65 Arab guerilla fighters. In 2004, the Palestinians would accept no less than 400 Arab prisoners for one Israeli soldier. Seeming a bit pricey, they lowered their offer to 200 in 2007. As the Israelis considered the new offer, the PA voided the offer and now wanted less than 1,400 Palestinians for Gilad Shalit’s freedom.

Israel’s Arab neighbors have inflated the value of one Israeli soldier to over 1,000 Arabs. Civilians are even more valuable. The Arab printing press of terrorist warriors is running overtime and devaluing the life of Arabs everywhere.

As T.E. Lawrence said in “Lawrence of Arabia,” “So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel... “

Pat is becoming more outstandng
Pat

God bless you.

You want good things for all. When I look aroud to see the leaders we have I am so disheatened. Where are the leaders who want to serve others by word and example?

You are a hero of mine because of your perceptions and honesty.

cbj56
Thank you for your thoughtful post.

You said : "Shells...Is life worth living if you feel the need to hide who you are, for fear of the possible response of others? Why hide that you are a Jew? Why not be proud of your heritage and outwardly project that pride?"

-I am proud of my heritage and personal family history that we were able to date back centuries ago. I will always defend myself against those I believe are bigoted.

But I do have friends and family that hide. I guess sometimes hurtful words and the slurs they experienced in life made them decide it was easier to coast with no past or attachments. They did this by changing their last names to gentile ones.

"To each his own. You are free to live as you wish, but to hide that you are a Jew out of fear of what others will think of you...smacks of cowardice."

-You are absolutely correct. I know many types of Jews, and unfortunately, most only care about being loved and accepted by others, rather than loving and accepting who they are.

Thank you for your post.

To Doug
Thanks. I can't seem to get into my blog to post. Do you or anyone have any ideas how to contact townhall.com to ask for help? I send e-mails, but I must not be ending them to the right addresses.

Shells
As a Roman Catholic, I sometimes find myself a target of mean-spirited and even hateful rhetoric, as well...but my belief in myself and my faith remain strong and I won't let anyone intimidate me. Much like some of your Jewish friends, I have Catholic friends who hide or downplay their faith and heritage, out of fear of what others will think.

Continue to be proud of your Jewish heritage and do not ever let others make you feel shame or self doubt.

May God bless you.

To jerabaub
Republican numbers may be down, but it is not because the Republican Party is not spouting the paleocon line according to Pat Buchanan.

By the way, as I type it this, John McCain is addressing the NRA in Louisville and explained well the American security interests in the Iraq war and being strong with respect to Iran, giving it to Obama and Clinton. The Republican Party needs to re-articulate principles, and part of that needed re-articulation is John McCain's mixture of Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. Reagan liked McCain.

God to Pat: Got faith?
Pat As former Ambassador Zalman Shoval writes, Israel's population of 7 million is 80 percent Jewish. But

Pat correctly observes that Arabs living in Israel have risen to 20 percent of the Israeli population and are growing much faster than the indigininous Jews. He alludes to a future not far off when the Jews will be a minority in their own land.

But Pat errs in his identification os what he considers to be the "the critical question in any struggle of generations: Whose side is time on?" The more salient question--and ultimately, the most relevant one--is one most Townhall columnists are too ashamed to ask publicly: Who's side is God on?

In Jeremiah 31:37, the writer declares: Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done."

The U.S. and our feckless politicians will flirt with Arabs in deference to our addiction to Middle East oil, but the Jewish Messiah will never abandon His people. They will never again be destroyed.

cbj56
Thank you for your kind words.

I understand the plight that Roman Catholics go through with the defamation of your religion and insensitive things people say about it.

It seems today, most religious people are targeted by a vast majority who wish to mock and ridicule anyone who has a faith and belief in God.

It upsets me greatly and I defend those people as if I were defending my own faith.

Take care my new friend.

R.A.M.
Since oil is a world commodity, its price is determined by world demand and speculative buying. You are somewhat right about US supply and demand but not even in the ballpark on Chinese or Indian demand. Demand in both those countries has grown 3 fold over the past 5-7 years. Drilling in ANWR makes a lot of sense; it will employ Americans and save sending the Arabs weapons money at the rate of $125.00 for every barrel produced. Your problem is a thick Democrat coating of "Blame it on Corporate America" spread on you to cover up a total sell out to the environmentalist and the lack of any attempt to legislate a viable energy policy. Your thinking is pure MARXIST.

Israel
Its hard to make predictions, especially about the future (as Yogi Berra so famously remarked).
Maybe the birth rate among the Arabs will decrease. Maybe they will come into the modern world and improve their standard of living when they give up some of their dogmas and use the thinking that led to the Golden Age of Islam back in the 900-1000 time. Rational thought could even happen and they could give up their determination to get rid of Israel and the Jews. People can learn by experience, although there is little sign of it right now.
I am concerned about the future of Israel, but I am more concerned about the future of the United States. Many of our leaders do not seem to have any judgment or common sense, but maybe it is the electorate that is deficient in those qualities.
I perceive that the West would have a problem with radical Islam even if there were no Israel or any Jews on the planet.
Donald W. Bales

Warrior
If you were a Jew, I'd be anti-semitic too.

Luckily for you, you're not a Jew and still can be anti-semitic. It's wonderful thing, isn't it?

Lost Tribes-Don, TN
Hey Don,

I very much enjoyed your (IMHO) profound and thoughtful comments.

Meanwhile, P. Buchanan has again offered a great number of facts and a message of some kind of impending disaster with no real comment as to "so what?" or "what should we do, if anything?" Don was right - all of this information pales beside the undeniable fact that radical Islam is heading toward a face-off of some kind against the rest of civilization.

It must be difficult to come up with noteworthy columns on a weekly basis. Take a vacation, Pat. gene emmons, Longmont, CO

A long history
"Israel is 'the only nation in the world that is governing itself in the same territory, under the same name, and with the same religion and same language as it did 3,000 years ago." (Tuchman)





AGREE WITH ANNA
Over 2,000 years ago, the Jews were expecting the Savior to be a political one - arrive to wipe out their enemies. They didn't realize they needed to be saved from sin and physical death. I don't believe the Jews will dwindle out because they are bordered by nations with blood-thirsty religious zealots who really don't even know the history of why thy despise Jews, yet will rise up against the Jews and usher in the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. I believe this will happen sooner rather than later. I have but one question for Iran, Syria, and the like: How will you wage war against heavenly angels? Good luck with your impossible desires. America will not be able to intervene, but I know who will and you can't beat Him.

SHELLS
You have intimidated me with your label. I may never tell the truth again; you are a moron. If you have facts to refute my contention, present them. If not, take your stupidity off the line, we all can see it. Refute these facts: Kaganovich is credited with killing 14.5 million Ukrainians. Yagoda wiped out 1/3 of St. Petersburg (see SOLZYNITSINS "Gulag Archipelago"). Every Commissar of the KGB (Secret Police) was a Jew and this includes the ruthless Beria. After 1945 every Dictator in Eastern Europe was a Jew except Tito of Yugoslavia. The root of Communism is the writings and ideology developed by Marx and Engels (both Jews). More than 60,000,000 Russians died during the Communist regime. These deaths are in addition to those that resulted from World War ll. Bela Kun, Jew, killed thousands in Hungary prior to WWll, Joe Slovo likewise in Southern Africa.

Not only dead but...
..ALL triumphalist religions are doomed to massive disappointment and failure.

When Israel gets nuked, as it tragically but inevitably will, and when Jesus does not show up to the rescue, Christianity will be forced into massive rethinking. Sadly, this Christian disappointment will transform itself into a new style Christian anti-semitism, as if it was Judaism's fault that Jesus was dead and was not coming back. And NEVER was coming back. For 2000 years Judaism has been correct about the Christ Myth that arose from out of the Jewish life and Roman death of poor Jesus. That's a truth that Christianity will not accept of bear easily or lightly.

Islam will enjoy a period of relative ascendancy, but in the end is also doomed to the same fate as all religious triumphalism.

Buchannan
Truly, a happier scenario could not exist for this paragon of anti-semites. I guess you'll get your wish, finally, Pat. You won't see it but you can go to your grave knowing the destruction of Israel is inevitable.

Warrior
Sorry, my anti-semitic friend, I just had to get you there, you opened yourself up on your bigoted soapbox that no one really pays attention to or agrees with.

I read you occasionally, just to see good old Warrior pin it all on us evil zionist marxist Jews. It makes good reading on the toilet when the shampoo bottle bores me.

As far as confusing you with facts and history, well...I'll let you cling onto your sweaty pamphlets you collect at the KKK meetings in Alabama. Why? Because I found in my experience dealing with bigoted lunatics, one cannot reason with angry sociopaths who live under a rock that gets peed on by passing gerbils.

Call me a moron, but I don't see anyone cheering you on lately.

But keep up the good work, my bottle of body lotion is getting redundant as well and I will need some material when I have my morning coffee moments.

Toodles

The period on the myth
"Jesus Christ promised that his Church will be triumphant, and that all nations and men will kneel before him."

THAT is, in deed, religious triumphalism, invented by the Christ Myth and is the epitome archetype of the triumphalism doomed for failure and disappointment. Jesus the 1st century Jew from Nazareth, of course, never believed or said any such thing. Jesus would turn over in his grave if he ever found out that the gospel evangelist put those words into his mouth. Or what the Christ Myth did to his Jewish person, Jewish message and vision, Jewish scriptures and Jewish God.

And you will live to see both Israel nuked and Jesus not come back to the rescue and myriad other failures of the Christ Myth in our times.

Sorry. He's dead. He's not coming back. He never was coming back. Get over it.

Shabbat Shalom

I agree
The Christ Myth about poor dead Jesus involves much much more than just the virgin birth and the empty tomb.

Shabbat Shalom

Fatuous Cunctator
"I challenge you to prove that Buchanan is an anti-Semite. Document his statements that show why you think that he is an anti-Semite. You can't."

Pat glorifies Hitler, mocks Holocaust survivors and shills for Holocaust deniers. He also drops to his knees at a moment's notice so he can hunch over and give passionate, slobbering service to any Islamofascist whackjob with murder in his heart for the Jews, as shown by recent columns fawning over Sheik Yassin and Ahmedinejad.

Next: we prove the sun rises in the East.

Pat is right
Jewish people are tending to marry non-Jews, especially in America. Thus, the Jewish population is going down. Jews also tend to have relatively few children, by choice.

In Israel, it is only a matter of time before Jews are a minority in their own country.

You can either have a Jewish State, or you can have a democracy, but you can't have both. You can't call it a democracy if a huge portion of the native-born population--the Palestinians--is not given full citizenship. If that portion of the population IS given citizenship, then you no longer have a Jewish State.

The Lost Tribes of Israel
One cannot look at Israel from a secular standpoint and make any sense. God chose the Jews, why I'll neven know, to spread His gospel. His anointing is still upon them, no matter where they live. That's why Jews that don't know Jesus constantly wring their hands with anxiety. It's not because they've been persecuted for centuries.

When Jesus returns, he will set foot on the Mount of Olives. Frome there, he will reight for 1000 years and peace will finally be established on earth.

All of this is by faith, of course, which our media and their left wing buddies are totally clueless.

One thing I do know. The Muslims know that the Jews are God's chosen people. Driven by Satan, they are doing their level best to destroy Israel, both from without and from within.

Are we allowed to say
Women make a nation, when women don't have babies, there is no nation?

Dare we say that a fostered attitude of selfishness is the death of any nation?

If not by pure loss, then by invasion, in want of replacement.

What does the Bible say?
Pat is not really anti semetic for saying this.

The real thing you need to look for is people who demonize anyone, because all people are a mixture of good and bad.

That's why we need Jesus.

A righteous Gentile such as Shindler Negotiated with Nazis and was in fact him self a Nazi. So this righteous gentile was also unrighteous.

The same thing with Raoul Wallenberg who negotiated with the Nazis and saved thousands of Jews.

All righteous gentiles are also unrighteous.

As to the Middle east Ezekiel says that the Arabs will beleive in Jesus and be Messianic Muslims and take a tribe for where they live in Israel. Ezekiel 47:22.

And yes, any jew having an abortion is like something from a satanic version of Mad magazine because as far as they are concerned they might be killing the Messiah!

Shell
You know the truth but you hope no one else does, so you spend time trying to stifle the debate. There is more and more truth coming out of the Russian archives about the Jewish involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution and the Jewish conduct in establishing and implementing Russian Communism. Be not mistaken, I will raise my voice until Jews admit their complicity and quit hiding from the truth. There were many good Jews in Russia and many fled because of what they saw as a National disgrace, but Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Kaganovich, Yagoda and many, many others were murderers. The Jews need to atone and you know it. BTW I have never even seen a KKK meeting--have you?

There are
those who claim to be of Judah and are not but do lie.

Warrior
Even assuming what you say is true and there were many "Jews" in positions of power within the communist East, how do you make the leap to blaming the entire Jewish race and demanding that they atone for their sins? Wouldn't that be a lot like African Americans demanding reparations for the past sin of slavery that might have been imposed on their great grandfather? Whatever happened to individuals being responsible for their own actions? Have the German or Japanese properly atoned in your mind?

Pats third take the idea of "lost tribes
1) Lost tribes meaning the 10 tribes of the north that lost distinction after exiles.

2) Anglo Israelite and other nonjews who think they are the descendants of Joseph of Arimethea who was supposed to have gone to ireland and it makes them nervous.

3) People who say American Indians were a lost tribe,

4) Latinos who think their ancestors were forced to convert in the inquisition and are reclaiming jewish identity

5) Pats tounge in cheek twist that isn't really hatefull but probably so painfully true it isn't nice when he adds lost tribes of mangled Jewish fetuses standing at the door of judgement for the jews of America. True Pat, but not the way to win friends.

Churchill, Moses and the wandering tribe
From an article in the UK's "Sunday Chronicle" about Moses (11/8/31)

Noting that the Biblical story had often been portrayed as myth, Churchill declared: 'We reject, however, with scorn all those learned and laboured myths that Moses was but a legendary figure upon whom the priesthood and the people hung their essential social, moral and religious ordinances. We believe that the most scientific view, the most up-to-date and rationalistic conception, will find its fullest satisfaction in taking the Bible story literally, and in identifying one of the greatest of human beings with the most decisive leap-forward ever discernible in the human story.'

'This wandering tribe, in many respects indistinguishable from numberless nomadic communities, grasped and proclaimed an idea of which all the genius of Greece and all the power of Rome were incapable.'

'Moses was the greatest of the prophets, who spoke in person to the God of Israel; he was the national hero who led the Chosen people out of the land of bondage, through the perils of the wilderness, and brought them to the very threshold of the Promised Land; he was the supreme law-giver, who received from God that remarkable code upon which the religious, moral, and social life of the nation was so securely fastened. Tradition lastly ascribed to him the authorship of the whole Pentateuch, and the mystery that surrounded his death added to his prestige.'

Not so complicated Roy
MrRoy 9:33 AM EST
Subject: The Lost Tribes of Israel
. God chose the Jews, why I'll neven know, to spread His gospel.
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Imagine you have a message that concerns all men.
You choose a select few to aide you to get your message out.

If one will read the Bible, he can learn what God told the Jews, is every bit as true for all of us.

Jew or Gentile cause God is neither.
But He choose the Jews to reveal His Will to us all.

Yet He has no respect for the flesh of any man, or his person, as we all are created EQUAL in the eyes of God.
But the Jews were blessed First with the truth that comes from God.
This is what Jesus Himself said, Peter and Paul the Apostles too,and sent to us Gentiles only after the Jews rejected Jesus Christ.

Mt 15:24 -
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


The first Gentile to hear the Gospel
Acts 10
21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?

22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee





Can modernity be imposed (i.e. Iraq)?
“To 'Jewish enterprise,' Churchill stressed, 'the Arab owes nearly everything he has. Fanaticism and a sort of envy have driven the Arab to violence, and for the present the problem is one of proper policing until harmony has been restored.'

'The Jews have developed the country, grown orchards and grain fields out of the desert, built schools and great buildings, constructed irrigation projects and water power houses and have made Palestine a much better place in which to live than it was before they came a few years ago. The Arabs are much better off now than before the Jews came and it will be a shot time only before they realise it'

Churchill made the same points in an article in the New York American magazine. Praising the work of the Zionists in Palestine, he wrote of ... the wine-making town he had visited eight years earlier, that out of 'the blistering desert, patience, industry, and civilised intelligence have created green, smiling fields and vineyards and delicious shady groves, the home of thriving, happy, simple communities who, even if there had been no Balfour Declaration, would deserve the strong protection and the sympathies of free and enlightened people in every quarter of the globe.'

As for the Arabs of Palestine, Churchill wrote, they had been brought, as a result of the Jewish presence there, 'nothing but good gifts, more wealth, more trade, more civilisation, new sources of revenue, more employment, a higher rate of wages, larger cultivated areas, a better water supply - in a word, the fruits of reason and modern science.' “ (Gilbert, “Churchill and the Jews” 2007)

Israel
Is not going to be nuked by the nutjob. Israel will bomb them first. Will that trigger events already predicted?

Get ready; be prepared! Keep all the armies around you mobilized, and take command of them. A long time from now you will be called into action. In the distant future you will swoop down on the land of Israel, which will be enjoying peace after recovering from war and after its people have returned from many lands to the mountains of Israel. You and all you allies-a vast and awesome army –will roll down on them like a storm and over the land like a cloud.

…I will march against her and destroy these people who live in such confidence! I will go to those formerly desolate cities that are now filled with people who have returned from exile in many nations….


But this is what the Sovereign Lord says: When Gog invades the land of Israel, my fury will boil over! In my jealousy and blazing anger, I promise a mighty shaking in the land of Israel on that day. All living things-the fish in the sea, the bird of the sky, the animals of the field…and all the people on earth-will quake in terror at my presence. Mountains will be thrown down; cliffs will crumble, walls will fall to the earth. I will summon the sword against you on all the hills of Israel, says the Sovereign Lord.




Israel cont.
Your men will turn their swords against each other. I will punish you and your armies with disease and bloodshed; I will send torrential rain, hailstones, fire, and burning sulfur! In this way, I will show my greatness and holiness, and I will make myself known to all the nations of the world. THEN THEY WILL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD. EZ 38



Russia leads the attack. "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya will join you...Gomer and all it's armies will also join you along with the armies of Beth-togarmah from the distant north, and many others."


BRING IT ON!



Son of man, prophesy against Gog. Give him this mesage from the Sovereign Lord; I AM YOUR ENEMY...I will knock the bow from your left hand and the arrows from your riht hand, and I will leave you helpless. You and your army and your allies will ALL DIE ON THE MOUNTAINS. EZ 39 1-4


Read "Epicenter", Russia has come close to directly attacking Israel before.

The seven feasts of Israel
From “The Seven Feasts of Israel” by Zola Levitt (messianic Jew)

We would look in vain in the New Testament for a fulfillment of the Day of Atonement. This is the one feast which is not fulfilled by the Church, because the Church owes no atonement. The Church is not innocent of course, but it is exonerated. Jesus paid off the sins of every one of us. But these are Jewish feasts, and each one is fulfilled for the Jews. The Day of Atonement will be fulfilled in a wonderful way when the Lord returns at His second coming. Zechariah’s marvelous poetry pictures the reaction if Israel to the very sigh of the Kind of the Jews returning:

And I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications” and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (Zech 12:10)


feasts cont.
In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness. )Zech 13:1)

How sorrowful Israel will feel indeed, in the presence of their King”

And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. (Zach 13:6)

But the atonement will be accepted. (!!) God will have at long last ended His separation from Israel, His original wife. The book of Hosea details the adultery of Israel, in type, and her final redemption and purification. Paul’s words bear repeating”

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliver, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. (Ro 11:26)

Sometimes Christian are confused by preaching that indicates “All the Jews will be saved anyway, so why should we bother witnessing to them now?” This would be an erroneous reading of scripture, since only SURVIVING Israel will be saved when the Lord returns. A man who dies now before being saved, Jew or Gentile, cannot obtain salvation in the future, and we should note that it will be very difficult for little Israel to survive the tribulation in any great numbers. The prophets lament that two-thirds of that nation shall perish at the hands of the antichrist!




Jesus fulfilled all the feasts. There are only three left, Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles. God is indeed marvelous!




the times

Israel becoming a nation set the timer.

We are close to one world gov.

It will take a miracle for the next president to not preside over the end of our nation as we know it and the creation of the NAU. I believe when we go down we will take the world with us. Forces are arrayed in and around us working for our destruction. Who does satan want to destroy, Israel and America. We are the last man standing.



“Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leave begin to sprout, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, you can know his return is very near, right at the door….Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will never disappear. Matt 24;32-35



I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men. Ben Franklin


It has already been worked out. BTW, no one comes to Israel's aid during that attack. So either we don't care or are already out of commission. Righteousness exalts a nation. I suspect the latter.





Isaac and Ishmael
Isaac was the son of promise and Ishmael was cast off. That is the most fundamental root of their hatred for Israel and all Jews in my opinion.


When she (Hagar), knew she was pregnant, she bagan to despise her mistress (Sarai)...

The angel of the Lord also said to her:

You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishamael, for the Lord has heard of your misery.

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and eveyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.

The child(Isaac) grew and was weaned,...Abraham held a great feast. But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne...was mocking, and she said to Abraham, "get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance of my son Isaac."

The matter distressed Abraham greatly because it concerned his son. But God said to him, "Do not be so distressed about the boy and your maidservant, Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isacc that your offspring will be reckoned. I will make the son of the maidservant into a nation also, because he is your offspring."

...God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation. (from Genesis)


Now we live with the fruit of their unfaithfulness... not trusting God to do what he had promised (to give them a son).


Moslems can be grafted in if they want to be, just like gentiles.





Iraq/Babylon
The only ME country that does not take part in the attack against Israel is Babylon. The ME will be in shambles when it is over.

Israel will survive and it would seem so will Babylon (Iraq). Will that set the stage for the peacepact the antichrist makes with Israel?

We do know that the antichrist will rule from Babylon.


Perspective.

sorry
sorry for all the typos, I am doing a terrible job proofreading today!

To Anna on Romans 11:26
If you look at the Greek of this on BLB which the average college graduate can do, you will see that this verse is actually about a nonjew who is self delivered because the word here for deliverer is in passive or middle voice and the phrase and so, means by the thing that came before, the fullness of the gentiles, meaning a nonjewish Elijah leads National Israel in Salvation so that there is something like and Israeli national church with most of them born again.

Chad
Romans starting with verse 25

I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters, so that you will not feel proud about yourselves. Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. As the Scriptures say,

The one who rescues will come from Jerusalem,
and he will turn Israel away from ungodliness.

And this is my covenant with them, that I will take away their sins.

Many of the people of Israel are now enemies of the Good News, and this benefits you Gentiles. Yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For God's gifts and his call can never be withdrawn.



The next verse says I will forgive their sins. Only Jesus has the power to forgive sins. The one who rescues, comes from Jerusalem and turns them from ungodliness is Jesus.



candlelight
Thanks for the posts on Churchill. I love him. I've read Manchester's biographies, and about him in other things.

I recently read "All the Shah's Men". It was the British who wanted Mossedegh overthrown. They tried and failed and we did it for them. Churchill said it was one of his proudest moments. He was wrong on that.


Another good book is "Secrets of the Kingdom". How they got the oil industry started in Saudi Arabia. The goats were eating their garbage and the Mullah's thought refrigerators were evil. We created all of their infrastructure, and modernization. What have they accomplished that they didn't get from the West?


Hitchhiker
The very fact that you can identify the Nations that owned slaves, Germany, and Japan indicates they have either been forced to or have willingly acknowledged their roles. You start your blog with " assuming what you say is true and there were many "Jews" in positions of power within the communist East", indicates a lack of contrition on the part of the Jewish Communist in nations all around the world and an effort to cover it up. What I say is true. If you really want to know, do your research right from your computer. Here is all you have to do; Google: "Jews and Communism in Russia". After researching Russia, substitute "Hungary" or "Poland" or "Romania" or even "China". You will be astonished. I am not condemning the Jews, they committed the murders--they should acknowledge it.

Anna's right on
You're right, "we created all of their [Arabs] infrastructure, and modernization. What have they accomplished that they didn't get from the West?" That partly explains why Churchill admired the Jews of Palestine.

He said 'Anyone who has seen the work of the Jewish colonies which have been established during the last twenty or thirty years in Palestine will be struck by the enormous productive results which they have achieved.'

From "the most inhospitable soil, surrounded on every side by barrenness and the most miserable form of cultivation,' he had been driven into a fertile and thriving country estate, where the scanty soil gave place to good crops and good cultivation, and then to vineyards and finally to the most beautiful, luxurious orange groves, all created in twenty or thirty years by the exertions of the Jewish community who live there. ...

"I defy anybody, after seeing work of this kind, achieved by so much labour, effort and skill, to say that the British Government, having taken up the position it has, could cast it all aside and leave it to be rudely and brutally overturned by the incursion of a fanatical attack by the Arab population from outside,' he told the House of Commons on his return to Britain. It would be 'disgraceful if we allowed anything of the kind to take place. I am talking of what I saw with my own eyes. All round the Jewish colony, the Arab houses were tiled instead of being built of mud, so that the culture from this centre has spread out into the surrounding district.” (Gilbert, “Churchill and the Jews” 2007)

.....
----Be not mistaken, I will raise my voice until Jews admit their complicity and quit hiding from the truth. There were many good Jews in Russia and many fled because of what they saw as a National disgrace,------

Complicity? You're a delusional fool. Do you have the slightest idea what it was like for the Jews in communist Russia? I emigrated from there as a child with my family and we’re Jews. The term “pogrom” [riot] is Russian and born of the atrocities committed against Jews in a blitzkrieg of violence. Russians forced Jews to live in the deplorable confines of gulags. Jews endured extreme hardship in the USSR. The massacres were committed not by Jews, but by atheists; those who rejected God. Jews were persecuted, hardly in any position to conduct widespread bloodlettings. There were Jews who peddled communist philosophy but to extrapolate from that all Jews are responsible for the murders committed by non-Jews is absurd. Only the liberal mind can generate such twisted logic.


---You will be astonished. I am not condemning the Jews, they committed the murders--they should acknowledge it.----

Post some of the Jew hating agitprop, lets see the gutter you dwell you in.

.....
Good stuff Anna.

The great Satan
How did you get the "TM" on there?

Pretty funny.


A woman I know at my church (Samira, beautiful name I think) is a messianic Jew. She was able to get out of Azerbaijan.

To me it is the most beautiful thing when a Jew recognizes their Messiah.

I have read that some liberal Jews here funded Trotsky, and the revolution. So what, so did wall street. To paint all Jews with that is sick.

Ishmael
"He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and eveyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

Interesting description from God on the father of the Arab race. Will they EVER live peaceably? I doubt it.



'This wandering tribe, in many respects indistinguishable from numberless nomadic communities, grasped and proclaimed an idea of which all the genius of Greece and all the power of Rome were incapable.' LOVE THIS!

Paul said it like this...

Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was please through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, bother Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength. 1Cor: 18-25




I read on Drudge that we had the coldest April on record. It's like 90 today here! Manischewitz, my brain is melting! Freezing to boiling!

Great Satan
What is really sad is that when America goes down there will be no place to escape to.

Have you read any of Mary Grabar's articles? Her contempt for the armchair socialists is palpable. She escaped too. She rightly despises their romaticization of evil.

When you get rid of God what you get is tyranny.


“Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God.” Jefferson

Anna
---How did you get the "TM" on there?---

Hold down the Alt key and press 0153.

God's Convenants...........
The covenant with Noah is with all peoples. Later God makes a separate covenant is made with Abraham while he is still under the Noahide covenant. The Abrahamic covenant declares that because of Abraham's faith, God promises him a son in whom all nations will be blessed. Abraham believes God, as a gentile and his faith is "accounted as righteousness" . This occurs before the covenant of circumcision in the flesh and 430 years before the covenant of law with is children of through Jacob ( the children of Israel). There is no covenant of the law of Moses in existence at the time of Abraham.


God's Convenants...........
The covenant with Noah is with all peoples. Later God makes a separate covenant is made with Abraham while he is still under the Noahide covenant. The Abrahamic covenant declares that because of Abraham's faith, God promises him a son in whom all nations will be blessed. Abraham believes God, as a gentile and his faith is "accounted as righteousness" . This occurs before the covenant of circumcision in the flesh and 430 years before the covenant of law with is children of through Jacob ( the children of Israel). There is no covenant of the law of Moses in existence at the time of Abraham.


Convenant extended....
This covenant was to last until the promise of Abraham was to be fulfilled when the Messiah would come and not just the nation Israel would be blessed but the whole world, all nations and many nations as Paul would say. The world is still under the covenant with Noah, Israel is under its special covenant with God of which the Sabbath is the "sign" of the Old Covenant.


First Convenant with Noah (Gentiles)
First of the covenant, the covenant is made between God and Noah and his sons. It is God's covenant of righteousness by faith, with the acceptance of Noah and his generations to perform the will of God and keep the Noahide commandments. The relationship is what must I do to show my faith and obey God. God answers by first "blessing" Noah and his sons. Noah and his sons and all generations will be blessed by keeping this covenant. The true worshipers of God, from all generations forward are the keepers of this covenant. Therefore, they can have no other covenants with false gods.
God reestablishes the marriage laws of "being fruitful and replenishing the earth" . Within this COMMANDMENT, is the responsiblity to live a life of sanctity apart from adultery as well as to have children. This is called the commandment to abstain from "pronea" (translated "fornication" ) in Acts 15:20. By including the "adultery" commandment within this covenant the Jews have always understood with the scholars that the implied, "thou shalt not covet" and "thou shalt not steal" are contained within the commandment. Both "coveting" and "stealing" would be


Noah's Convenat with God..........
In Genesis 9: we see God making a Covenant with Noah and his family (Gentiles), just as God had made a covenant with The children of Israel. In his covenant with the family of the Gentiles, he makes these statements,
"1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. 5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. 6Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. 7And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein."

THE SEED OF ABRAHAM???? CONVENANT??
"The Abrahamic covenant declares that because of Abraham's faith, God promises him a son in whom all nations will be blessed."

Could this be: JESUS THE CHRIST???

Could this be: JESUS THE CHRIST???
Nope. Jesus "Christ" is a myth, and Jesus of Nazareth is dead.

Paul was wrong about a lot of other things too.

Shelama Lacha baloney!

Shelama writes:

Could this be: JESUS THE CHRIST???
Nope. Jesus "Christ" is a myth, and Jesus of Nazareth is dead.

Sir_Aslan writes:

What does a Muslim know about Jesus?

Answer: Not a whole lot!! LOL

Jesus myths
The Islamic myths about Jesus largely derive from the Christian myths about Jesus. Some from canonical Christian sources and some that did not make it to the canon. To what end? The same massive disappointments and failures that doom all triumphalist religions.

Jesus would turn over in his grave if only he knew.

Shalom

Shelama..So, What do you believe in then
The shelama greeting in the Galileans' own tongue celebrated Jewish survival in a land under foreign dominance by reminding Jews of God's enduring covenant with Abraham--the very covenant put into practice in Jesus' circumcision. Even his name in Aramaic, Yeshua, conjured up the memory of Joshua, the heroic successor of Moses. Those gathered in the little village must have been keenly aware that they were a tiny, powerless group in an occupied province of the Roman Empire whose Jewish identity was under siege.

Adonai raised Yeshua from the dead to deliver us and make us righteous. Yeshua's resurrection gives us something in which to put our trust, revealing to us the fullness of the Good News by making us dead to sin and alive to God. As joint-heirs with Yeshua, we partake of his inheritance. In Messiah, we are no longer under any condemnation, we belong to a body of many parts, and we are sanctified, called to be holy, and share in all God's promises. In Him we are a new creation, we are justified by faith, sons of God, resurrected with Messiah, enslaved to Torah, and seated with Him in heaven. (Romans 10:9; 4:25; 1 Corinthians 15:17; 2 Timothy 2:8; Romans 6:1-11; Romans 8:1, 12:5; 1 Corinthians 1:2, 2 Corinthians 1:20, 5:17; Galatians 2:16, 3:26; Ephesians 2:6)



Aslan
It is even more simple.

The law did not atone for sins. The law only convicted one of sin. The atonement for sin came with the sacrifice of the spotless lamb.

That was the provision for forgiveness of sin and the template for the messiah they failed to recognize.


I don't think we have long to wait to see events already predicted.

Israel will not be destroyed and there will be a massive attack. Everyone will see how that turns out, including Shelama.


I was wondering when you would show up!

Watch, then, and wait
Some of my best friends are Christians. Among the more lucky are the elderly and infirm who will not live to see the disappointments to which Christianity is doomed in this century. Actually, I personally do feel a little bit badly that Jesus is dead and that he's not coming back. It's such a nice little story in some ways. And no doubting it is extraordinarily powerful and seductive.

For many Christian believers, their Christianity does precisely what religion was invented to do: make life and death easier and more meaningful. So, again, as long as y'all can adapt to a "messiah" who never comes back, you'll do fine. A big and growing problem for Christianity is the doomed hope and belief that the [hoped for] age of fulfillment and end times is near. Of course, this has not been an uncommon recurring circumstance among Christians, but this time around the massive failures and disappointments will be crushingly obvious to a huge interconnected community of believers. It's a little sad, but life will go on. But Christianity will never be the same.

Shalom

Shelama..JESUS IS ALIVE.HIS SPIRIT LIVES
If I had not had an experience in which I know that Jesus...or The Holy Spirit lives beyond any reasonable doubt I might believe that your doubts had substance but because I know now what I know and have experienced what I have experienced I am not worried about anything and I am not fearing any man, woman or thing!

The only difference now is that I see things in terms of multi-dimensional...Spiritual realm and Power. Of course your doubt only has me laughing and wishing you knew what I knew...but this forum is not necessarily the place to talk about it. We could pray about it as I did and received a blessing after asking for understanding instead of just spitting in the wind.

Aslan, I agree...
...that the internal psycho-emotional transcendental warm fuzzy is hugely powerful and transformative. And for those who have this variety of religious experience, it is undeniably *REAL*. Just look at poor confused Paul of Tarsus. And at least a few other religious geniuses. I am not one to recommend that you seek help, but don't say you weren't warned about the massive disappointments to Christianity which are in our near future. What help you might need after that depends on how well you adapt to the reality that Jesus is not coming back. He's dead. Sorry.

Shalom

America...The Land of Milk and Honey!
I sometimes wonder if Manifest Destiny is something I could believe in? It often seems to me that these United States is a Land of milk and honey. It often seems to me like it did to many of the Pilgrims and Puritans and some of our founding fathers that American was the New Israel..

I sometimes do not believe that God's people were destined to some Geographical Land of Ancient times but that rather when God poured his blessings out on Mankind with his convenant with Adam and then with Noah that we now await for the second coming of the Messiah and who is to say how or where or when he will return. The prophecies were fulfilled with the first coming and it seems to me that no one really knows for sure any of the answers and perhaps this is the beauty of it all.

Aslan
Have you heard of/read Joel Rosenberg's "Epicenter"?





Anna...I agree with most that you wrote
However, we can prophesy all we want but no one knows for sure how things will whind up.

I believe America is the New Israel...this belief is becoming ever more grounded in my psyche because America has been the launching pad for most of the Judeo/Christian missions
throughout the World.

If for lack of divine intervention I do not see how America could have made it this far.

Shelama...You have to have faith too!
By the way, Paul was a disbeliever like you are too shelama and he was Saul of Tarsus a Jew!

No, it wasn't some fuzzy transcendalism experience either....it was absolutely real...and spiritual at the same time.

Keep Trying! LOL...good try though!

Anna...Have not heard of Epicenter?
I will do a search later though!

As I was saying...

...

"No, it wasn't some fuzzy transcendalism experience either....it was absolutely real...and spiritual at the same time."

Aslan
I don't put any stock in "my" prophesies.

But the bible has a lot to say on the matter. I have been studying Revelation and reading study quides. We don't know everything but a lot is spelled out. Probably everything, but we are limited in our understanding.

I don't doubt God's providencial hand in our country. But as a nation we have turned away from God and I am expecting judgment. And as my old pastor used to say. We do not figure in the end times prophecies. A sad end to a blessed nation. Aside from what God will do to ultimately deliver Israel, no nation has been blessed as ours has. God allowed Israel to be destroyed and taken into captivity for sin and rebellion.

Ben Franklin:

Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our understandings? In the beginning of the contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible of danger we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine Protection. -- Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered.
....
And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? or do we imagine that we no longer need His assistance.

I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men

Anna....O.K....I did a search...
It looks interesting so I might get the book and read it. I have found that when one opens up the imagination to possibilities of things yet to come...it sometimes sharpens the senses.

Anna....Almost Forgot
I find the Adamic Covenant..or Laws of Noah covenant to be fascinating and what you wrote earlier kind of hit the nail because I have noticed that some Hasidic Rabbis from Chabad Lukovitch have tried to promote this as a concept to confuse Christians about their Christianity and their belief in Jesus too.

I believe his name is Rabbi Schneerson or something like that...but many Neocons adhere to the Teachings of Chabad Lukovitch so you might want to do a wikipedia search and read down about Chabad Lukovitch...and of course it involves the Kabbalah....etc Talmud

Aslan
It is also available as a recorded book.

It is very sad if Shelama is a Jew and she thinks Israel will be destroyed. Is Judaism a "myth"?


I need to go to bed so I can get up early tomorrow in order to worship my risen savior!


take care






Zola Levitt
A friend gave me a booklet by him years ago. It is called, "The Seven Feasts of Israel".

My pastor is maniacal about authenticity and Levitt is OK. He was also involved with Jews for Jesus. He died not long ago.

Jesus fulfilled the law and the main events correspond to the feasts. It is very interesting and has a lot to say to the believer. The antichrist will be the perfect counterfeit. Not perfect in the sense that he will proclaim his own glory, and do much evil.

You should check out Lehaye's book "Revelation Unveiled". I'm looking into other authors as well. I figure no one has all the truth.

I'll look into those guys.

another thing
I just finished re-reading Randy Alcorn's book "Heaven".

We have a very limited perception I think of what is in store for us on the "new earth and new heavens".

Like my son saying he thinks heaven will be boring. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a very encouraging and inspiring book.

O'le Zola Levitt....I've seen him on t v
I couldnt help but laugh when I used to see him on T.V. he seemed to me like he would be a great comedian but it was always interesting because he would help educate christians about some Jewish traditions.

If you get a chance check out Dr. Charles Frazier Stanley. I first saw Dr Stanley when I attended a Reagan Rally and got to meet President Reagan and Nancy...I didnt even know who she was until later...LOL I found out that Dr Stanley was there with the Church band and this was when all southern baptists were for Jimmy Carter...so I changed churches...Dr Stanley does the ..........In Touch Ministries and he will send you a little In Touch magazine every month if you sign up....he recently has done something on .......lifes principles....Dr Stanley....he is the greatest! They dont make them like him anymore.

Have a good nite...sorry to keep you up

Anna...
Dr Stanley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqZRjP8C2tA

Warrior

Karl Marx was born a Protestant.

Should you find the time to read in his writings, you will discover a vile strain of anti-Semitism.

In other words, Warrior, Karl Marx hated Jews.

Gary Rosen and Fredjay
Fredjay...this is the problem with Humanists like Karl Marx...they were not anchored into any kind of truth except dilatical El toro Pooh Pooh and they would turn on a dime to betray their own kind...besides Marx was paid off to write his Das Kapital anyhow...

Gary Rosen...I see Mr Rosen is still writing his vile Anti-Wasp diatribes and hurling Anti-Wasp, Anti-Catholic and Anti-European-American hate! Too bad he doesn't take advantage of his dual citizenship and return to the country of his allegiance.

Oh, ye of little faith...
...knoweth ye not that this kind cometh not out but by prayer and fasting?

One cannot but conclude that you're inability to cast out evil spirits is due either by your lack of faith, or your lack of fasting and prayer. Or, possibly, you're immoralities?

In either case, one must conclude that you, once again, could not cast out an evil spirit because of your unbelief. So, depart from me thou wicked, slothful and unprofitable servant.

Not only is Jesus not coming back, but his memory is marred by those who claim to take on his name but then cannot do that which they claim follow those who do. What to make of this?

This is rich
Someone who deifies a 2000 year dead Jew, who believes in the virgin birth of Jesus, and the empty tomb, recommending that someone else seek counseling? And sees not the irony of it?

O ye of little faith...DEPART!
Benny Hinn and Pat Robertson can do it on TV, so why not you on the Internet? (Perhaps, at least on TV the one doing the healing or the casting out can SQUINT their eyes in deep fervor that Jesus can see and respond to

Go ahead and do the squinty thing...I'll believe you if you tell me that you fasted and prayed and squinted really hard. Let's give that a try.

Shalom

Grieving
I guess I'm resigned to calling Benny Hinn, a real disciple of Jesus. You can't cast out evil spirits, nor will you pray and squint. Imagine my surprise and disappointment.

Shalom

Buchanan is into blood libel
against Jews. He never, ever mentions Moslem atrocities committed against Jews and has defended Nazi war criminals such as Denjanjuk among others. He also accused Holocaust survivors of being deluded when they speak of "gassings" and cited some crazy theory that you can't kill people using carbon monoxide! After this piece of garbage, the NY Post stopped running his columns and even G. Gordon Liddy went after him on the radio.

Jesus Can Help
Beliefs and [mis]perceptions and [mis]conceptions about Jesus can, indeed help if:

1) You've succumbed to the myth that Yahweh has any need, use or interest in bloody human child sacrifice, and that Jesus of Nazareth was both the child thus sacrificed, as well as "lord" to you; and,

2) That help is in no way dependent on Jesus ever coming back.


Powerful pyscho-emotional warm fuzzies and other internally generated religious experiences can be powerfully transformative, it is true. And the Christ Myth about poor dead Jesus is one of the most powerful and seductive sacred myths on which to draw to create them. at least iff one allows oneself to be seduced (ignorance of Hebrew scripture and messianism is helpful here). The fact that it's not true is all but irrelevant as long as the BELIEF provides comfort and meaning.

Shalom (Don't get me wrong. I really do feel badly that poor Jesus is dead and not coming back).
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