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Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Race Cards and Speech Codes
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"Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."

So said Bill Clinton in New Hampshire of Obama's claim to have been a constant opponent of the war. Clinton cited Obama's voting record, which was the same as Hillary's in his early Senate years.

Yet, for this, the ex-president, designated by Toni Morrison as "our first black president," was charged with playing the race card.

Clinton spent days explaining the "fairy tale" remark.

Came then the morning of the South Carolina primary, where Barack was rolling up a smashing victory. Bill volunteered: "Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina, twice, in '84 and '88. And he ran a good campaign, and Sen. Obama's running a good campaign."

That broke it. Bill Clinton was openly "playing the race card."

Now, undoubtedly, Clinton was trying to belittle, to diminish the importance of the South Carolina vote for Obama. But why is it racist to say what Clinton was implying: That, in a Southern state where a huge share of the Democratic vote is African-American, a strong black presidential candidate can be expected to do well?

Political history proves this. What is racist about saying it?

Aware of the truism, every political analyst was looking closely at the racial breakdown of the South Carolina vote.

Last week came Hillary's turn. After her victory in Indiana and loss in North Carolina, which pundits said rang down the curtain on her presidential bid, she advanced an argument candidates have used since primary elections began. "I can win -- and my opponent can't."

The argument was made against Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan.

In an interview with USA TODAY, Hillary argued that the coalition she has put together would be stronger against John McCain than the coalition Barack has cobbled together.

She began by relating an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

"There's a pattern emerging here," said Hillary. "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on."

This shot Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post into low orbit.

"As a rationale for why Democratic Party super-delegates should pick her over Obama, it's a slap in the face to the party's most loyal constituency -- African Americans -- and a repudiation of principles the party claims to stand for. Here's what she's really saying to party leaders: There's no way that white people are going to vote for the black guy. Come November, you'll be sorry ...

"Clinton implies but doesn't quite come out and say ... that Obama is black -- and that white people who are not wealthy are irredeemably racist."

But Hillary was saying no such thing. Describing her coalition, she was implying that Obama's coalition -- a George McGovern-Jesse Jackson combine embracing 90 percent of African-Americans, plus liberals, students and cause people -- has less chance of beating McCain than does she and her more Middle American coalition.

Democrats, not liberal Democrats, are the swing votes who decide presidential races. Here Hillary beats Obama three to two or two to one, North and South.

Has she no right to make this argument? Can Brother Robinson explain exactly how Hillary can describe her Ohio-Pennsylvania coalition without using the dread word "white"?

Some of the reaction to the Clintons, whose once-universal support among African-Americans has crashed, is due to the immense stake black Americans have come to invest in the Obama candidacy. But some of this is something else, something more sinister.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are not playing a race card. Rather, the liberal media and some black journalists with sentimental, emotional or ideological investments in Obama are playing the intimidation card.

They are setting limits around what may and may not be said about Obama. They are seeking to censor robust adversarial speech where Barack is concerned, by branding as racists "playing the race card" any who make Barack run the same paces as anyone else.

The Clintons are today victims of a double standard that has long been employed against conservatives.

Even African-Americans critical of Obama are feeling the lash. In Saturday's Washington Post article, "Black Community Is Increasingly Protective of Obama," reporter Darryl Fears writes, "Standing in the path of Obama's campaign has been dangerous" for prominent blacks.

Bill and Hillary have lost luster and sustained damage to their reputations because, in the Democrats' universe, such smears stick. The question for Republicans is whether they will let themselves be intimidated, as they too often are, from using legitimate political weapons to defend what they still have.

It is thus a sign of trouble ahead that John McCain declared the Rev. Wright off limits and berated the North Carolina GOP for bringing him up. Let your adversaries circumscribe the content of your campaign, and you usually end up losing your campaign.

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Race and politics
The only reason Osama Obama is still in this thing is because he is BLACK!!! If he were a white male he would be about as popular as Dennis Kuchinich. Obama is gonna get well over 90% of the black vote and that will be considered enlightened. If McCain gets 51% of the white vote that will be considered racist. The rules of political correctness and affirmative action are now being applied to our elections. Limits on criticism of Obama is nothing more than hate speech laws run amok. If he is elected with a Dem congress you will see many of your liberties go away in the name of civility and enlightenment. Remember "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

Hyphenate me, man...
I am offended and outraged at the constant use of the "w" word. It is high time for us "w`s" to assume our rightful hyphenation and hereinafter to be addressed as "American-Americans" or "A-A`s" for short. We A-A`s have a proud history of overcoming hardships and setbacks even after we cast off our European masters. We are also rightfully due reparations from those same Europeans who enslaved and indentured our ancestors only a few generations ago. Why, if we were just re-imbursed for the cost of passage to the new world (with interest of course), it would set right the ledger of human toil. I say "rise up" A-A`s and take your rightful hyphenation reparation station.

My worst fear is that...

so many of our own best and brightest young Conservative/Republican Media Elite Punditocracy have already allowed the LIBERALS to determine the RULES OF DEBATE!!!

FIGHT THEM ON THIS!
EVERYTHING is within bounds!
Race, religion, policy, history, family, association (who and HOW LONG), character, Patriotism, flag pins, racist preachers preachin' hate, war record, marriages, PETS- Shoot it ALL matters to somebody. AND IT'S ALL OKAY.

These folks are fightin' to be the MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD!! In NO OTHER COUNTRY can they be wholly vetted like in this great country of ours.

I want to know ALL ABOUT THE folks with their finger on the button (or not).

For you young pundits- REMEMBER THIS when workin' within the Mainstream Liberal Media:

"The object of life is not to
be on the side of the majority,

but to escape finding oneself
in the ranks of the insane."
-Marcus Aurelius

race cards
roadkill58
Obama's camp is hoping for people like you to keep this going for the next 6 mos.

Sad to say....
but, the speech codes are focused on minorities, you can say any thing you want about a white person and get away with it. Obama, "my grandmother was an average white person." Try saying that about a black person and see the response you will get. Poor Hillary, she thought she had the nomination locked up. And this "slick empty shirt" beats her.

Yep
I agree with Roadkill. I've been saying it for over a year, if Obama were white, the MSM would have completely ignored him, Oprah wouldn't give him the time of day, and he would not be running for POTUS.

Even my militant leftist parents know this, and I forced them to admit this to me, and they did. The problem is, they still would rather have an inexperienced man-made production like Obama to "fix this country's problems" as they said, rather than any republican in office.

So there you have it. It stil comes down to whether or not they have an R or a D after their name. Even a cognitive leftist will still go for an unqualified false idol as long as they're a democrat, rather than someone who might know what they're doing.

Docwaters
I think Obama actually said of his grandmother, "Typical White Person."

I heard that sound bite, or was your example another time he threw his grandmother under the bus?

Yes I agree though, if someone said "Typical Black Person" or insert Hispanic or whatever, there would be hell to pay.

It's a classless statement, only said by those who are indeed racist or bigots, and feel comfortable saying such things in casual conversation.

Obama said that, and it only proved to be he marinated long enough in Wright's sauce.

Socially Acceptable
Shells:

"Hating Whitey" is not only deemed socially acceptable by the "Obama-gasmic" MSM, but also quite lucrative as a profession- just ask Rev. Wright and other hyphenated-American poverty pimps who cling to the myth of "black liberation theology." If fact, Rev Wright is in the process of writing a book. This is just conjecture but I would guess that the title is "Hating Whitey for Dummies."

Pat has it about right.
Well, it is hard to sympathize with the plight of the Clintons', but Pat makes a good case.

Nothing Hillary or Bill Clinton has said regarding Obama and the 2008 election is the least bit racist.

Bill never objected to the characterization of being our first black president when it suited him politically.

By the way, Toni Morrison is an idiot.

The Clintons are getting a raw deal here.

Don't get me wrong. I am not pro-Clinton.

As far as McCain placing Reverend Wright off-limits, the horse is out of the barn.

Wright, plus Obama's condescending remarks on guns and religion, are out there, as is Michelle Obama, another problem for the Democrat senator.

The problem with McCain is his inability to distance himself from G.W. Bush, his penchant for irriting self-described "conservatives", his amnesty plan(which is the same as G.W. Bush's), and his very troubling foreign policy mindset(in demagoguing Russia and creating more problems for our nation), including swigging the toxic neocon slop that so damaged Bush.

Demosthenes
I agree with you completely. To hate whitey is lucrative and quite the fashion. It almost equals to the Christian Bashing I've seen going on for years by the left.

I heard, and I'm not certain if it's true, but wasn't Rev Wright going to be making an appearance on the Rachel Ray show, helping her make lemon tarts? I'm not kidding! I also heard that he was to appear on Martha Stewart, helping her make summer wreathes...

I swear, I heard this on the radio. If it was a joke, it was a funny and ironic one. If it's no joke, the world is truly sick.

..Next, we'll have Charles Manson demonstrate to us how to make the most festive centerpiece for your Christmas holiday with scraps of bone and instestine...

Now that a moron has "outed" me
The moron is dreadnaught

As a racist, due to wanting the laws enforced on immigration, hiring, identity, traffic, actually believing, that, without equal enforcement of the law, we have no equal protection of the law, but this has made me a racist, I accept it, I will die a racist if this is the new definition for racism.

Also I am an anti-semite because I believe in the Words of Romans 10th Chapter, where the Apostle Paul said of Israel, they will not submit to the Righteousness of God, preferring their own, I accept the name tag of anti-semite also if this is the new definition.

I now understand much better that the English words used in politics, have nothing to do with the dictionary any longer, and are evolving like nature is said to do, by the saints of evolution.

There is no such thing any longer in the meaning of a word, except for what the user of a word wants it to mean.

So as an anti-semite, and a racist according to my respect for law and order, and believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I reject Obama because he is black.

My decision has nothing to do with his beliefs, his politics, his egotistical idiocy of selfish ambition, his own racist views, or his hate dressed up with lip service in how much he loves "Amerika" and Karl Marx over George Washington or Thomas Jefferson, those racist anti-semites, whose ideas I still believe in, I accept the name and will be both a racist and an anti-semite till the day I die.

Talent Scout
Admittance is the first sign to wellness^^

Just poking at you, we do get along.

I was participating in Burt's article yesterday as well. I mean, you did contribute somethings which had others come to that conclusion.

I did not accuse you, I was too busy with a real anti-semite, Nemesys. But if you're not of those bigoted beliefs, yes, you are an example of what name calling and lables do to people.

I guess it's easier to label someone on a website like this as a liberal, a marxist, an anti-semite, a bigot....rather than simply just say, "You know what? F*ck off?"


I am also a hard hearted, right wing
Fanatic
Against all Communists/Mensheviks/Socialists/Progressives/
"Liberals"/Democrats/Politicians of every stripe/Lawyers/Mothers and Fathers/Boys and Girls.......who disagree with me.
Throw in all people, just to cover my bases and make sure I stay consistent with being a "fanatic, right wing, nutcase who is happy and paranoid too, due to all my isolationist, protectionist, anti globalist conspiracy theories.

Its me against the world, and its a cruel place to be, but as long as I can still have the right to my own beliefs, with the liberty to speak of them, it matters not if anyone on this planet loves me or not, as my hard heart just no longer gives a big rats aze what name I get called.

Talent Scout
"..I accept the name and will be both a racist and an anti-semite till the day I die."

Actually, I have more respect for you as someone who publicly recognizes who and what you are than those who tacitly hide their true selves behind rhetorical generalizations and sanctimonious piety.

Pat has it about right.
Well, it is hard to sympathize with the plight of the Clintons', but Pat makes a good case.

Nothing Hillary or Bill Clinton has said regarding Obama and the 2008 election is the least bit racist.

Bill never objected to the characterization of being our first black president when it suited him politically.

By the way, Toni Morrison is an idiot.

The Clintons are getting a raw deal here.

Don't get me wrong. I am not pro-Clinton.

Bill Clinton may say he feels your pain, but I don't. No offense.

As far as McCain placing Reverend Wright off-limits, that horse is out of the barn.

Wright, plus Obama's condescending remarks on guns and religion, are out there, as is Michelle Obama, another problem for the Democrat senator.

The problem with McCain is his inability to distance himself from G.W. Bush, his penchant for irriting self-described "conservatives", his amnesty plan(which is the same as G.W. Bush's), and his very troubling foreign policy mindset(in demagoguing Russia and creating more problems for our nation), but especially swigging the toxic neocon slop that so damaged Bush.

But, hey, Obama is just too far out there for me. And Wright, plus his stupid comments on guns, is a dealbreaker.

So it might be MadDog Johnny. Depends on whether he has enough sense to swear off the neocon slop.

I might just sit 2008 out, if he doesn't.

Obamanation
B. Hussien Obama won't get my vote, not because he is "black", nor because of his "former pastor and mentor", not even because he is a hack Chicago politian (read lawyer), but because he is a MARXIST. I don't vote for liberals, socialists or marxists period. IF BHO were a conservative, even that "sort" like McInsane, he'd get my vote over Hitlery. I've not voted for a Demoncat in years, as I'm NOT A LIBERAL, NOR A SOCIALIST. If people want to vote for a guy because of his skin color, they will not get any sympathy for me... I'm sure not voting for McInsane because he is WHITE, that is the last thing I'd consider.

Love ya Shells
Shells writes:
12:57 PM EST
Talent Scout
Admittance is the first sign to wellness^^

Just poking at you, we do get along.
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ts:
Smile
I invited it
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Shells writes:

I was participating in Burt's article yesterday as well. I mean, you did contribute somethings which had others come to that conclusion.
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ts:
Honesty gets that reaction my dear lady.
I really do believe Isreal's real problem is self-righteousness, as it is defined by the Apostle Paul.
So, I accept the name tag of anti-semite if believing in Jesus Christ makes me one on todays definitions.
I embrace it and fully accept it.
I also maintain my own right to call a moron a moron, in my right to say what I think, and believe.
Just as all morons have the right to do.
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Shells writes:



I did not accuse you, I was too busy with a real anti-semite, Nemesys. But if you're not of those bigoted beliefs, yes, you are an example of what name calling and lables do to people.
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ts:
Nor do I mind as it falls off like water off a ducks back.
Its holds no value to keep, nor consider it as anything but illogical, uneducated idiots speaking up from their own vile minds and beliefs.
I respect their right to be morons, as dreadnaught most certainly is
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Shells writes:

I guess it's easier to label someone on a website like this as a liberal, a marxist, an anti-semite, a bigot....rather than simply just say, "You know what? F*ck off?"
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ts:
No one knows anyone here, we are all strangers replying to a few words that can be taken in any way some moron wants to take them.
I respect their right to do that, and will die a racist anti-semite under their meaningless judgment.


Racism and Blacks
The use of the chinese water torture - constant water drops on ones chest - eventually causes madness.

The race card is becoming the constant drops of water.

Reaction at some point will be enormous and a backlash will occur.

When an American citizen cannot choose the best candidate for POTUS by issues and character without being accused of the most vile behavior of a racist - I for one have had enough!!

Call me whatever you want I no longer care! I will do my duty as an American citizen - "damn the torpedoes full steam ahead"!

forgive me
More or less did a double post.

I was interrupted between my first post and the second.

Sorry.

American - American
Salty, I must agree. I'm not a EUROPEAN, I'm an American, I'm not a Scot, nor English, nor French, nor German, nor Irish. I am an American, don't hyphenat me. I am not ethnically anything from Europe. My grandfather emigrated from Germany in 1897, and ceased to speak German upon our shores... "Americans speak English" and he was proud to become an American. My grandmother arrived from Belfast in 1903, speaking English... and neither EVER RETURNED TO THE "HOMELAND", as they were already here.

Say Amen somebody...
"Let your adversaries circumscribe the content of your campaign, and you usually end up losing your campaign."

Speech Police
The speech police are out and have been for years. There are two classes of people who are on the protection list...Blacks and Muslims. Anyone else is fair game.

If we are unlucky enough to have Barack Hussein Obama as our (ugh,ugh) president,anything negative any white person says about him or his,will be racist.

This will immunize him from any criticism for anything he proposes.One of the first things he will propose is reparations for slavery,in my opinion.

I believe it was Gerald Ford who said,after Nixon resigned,"At long last,our national nightmare is over." I say,ours will just be beginning.

Shells et al
Yesterday I sat in amazement at the most vile speech I personally have ever witnessed. I have heard and read about such people but never pesonally witnessed them in action.

IMO, such talk is the talk of 'brutes' and at best bullies.

I appreciated your self control even when it got out of hand you sharply drew it back.

Congratulations and well done! fellow soldier.

Thank you wimpy


Talent Scout
"..I accept the name and will be both a racist and an anti-semite till the day I die."
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LionHeart writes:
Actually, I have more respect for you as someone who publicly recognizes who and what you are than those who tacitly hide their true selves behind rhetorical generalizations and sanctimonious piety.
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ts:
When I know myself as well as you know me, then I can be as honest and true as you are, O great Lionheart.

You are my hero, my idol, my truth shall be found in your words of verity and honor.
I dismiss everything I thought of myself to bow to your superior knowledge, truth, honesty and faithfuless.

When you speak, I shall sit quietly at your feet with adoring eyes, full of admiration for your wisdom that creates my new world.

I repent for not knowing you as well as you know me, but your life giving words of truth and verity gives me hope and inspiration for a brighter future for me and the world.

Oh thank you, thank you kind sir, for taking the time to share your brilliance and dazzle me with your shining glory.
I will never forget your words of love and affection all the while you over look my own demented ignorance.

Your Grace, when you could spare the time, I would deeply appreciate if you could drop a few more nuggets of golden words towards my humble little self.

Sincerely
Adolf Hitler


talent scout
You have made my day,ts!! Now get your tongue out of your cheek,before you choke....(I can't wait for Wimpy's reply)

Liberals and definitions
Has anyone else noticed that it is Liberals who try to squelch the right of the American citizen to free speech?

The American citizen has the right to free speech as long as it is approved first by Liberals!

Speech that is not approved by liberals brings wrath - not at the speech but at the speaker.

Liberals define words:
deviancy = normalcy.
compassion = killing babies because they didn't survive an abortion.

If an The American citizen will not toe the mark and accept the new definition they are branded by nasty labels and caricatures.


Question:
Is being black and voting for a hack Chicago politian MARXIST simply because he is part black racist?

Rowly & Talent Scout
Was I suppose to reply to that??
Think not.....

Independent Thinker
"Question:
Is being black and voting for a hack Chicago politian MARXIST simply because he is part black racist?"

I am not aware of a "hack Chicago politician Maxist" that is asking for my vote so its difficult to respond to your question. However, I can say that the platform of any candidate, black or white, is the primary consideration for casting a vote, period!!

Case in point, run Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, or Clarence Thomas for president and see how many black votes either would receive.

Liberals and Facism
Liberals in America have redfined Fascism but it is still the same "tried and failed" theme
that exalts nation and race above the individual.

The smallest minority group in America is the American citizen!

The dynamic is still the same - coerced compassion instead of voluntary.

Coercion is the game and Liberal is its name.

Wimpy writes:
LionHeart
Date: May 13, 2008 - 2:00 PM EST
Rowly & Talent Scout
Was I suppose to reply to that??
Think not.....
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ts:
My hopes have been dashed as your majesty rejects giving me any more of your eternal judgments of truth.

Alas cruel world, I shall retreat into my shell, and just read some very sad poetry.

I have been dismissed from the presence of the master, without hope.
The blackness of the future now descends on my head like a hurricane at sea, a perfect storm of depression for the world to come, having lost all hope.

signed
Hopeless right winged fanatic anti-semite racist
Alfred E. Newman

American Citizen
When any American is indoctrinated into believing that they are not individual Americans and their rights and power belong to a group they lose the rights of every common citizen.

When any American believes that they have no significance outside their group as an individual, but only by the rights of a group, they have no future as an American citizen.

When any American believes that they have to secure 'special rights' for a group, with disregard of every other citizen, they have failed as an American citizen.

Any American who has been hurt by discrimination of any sort and then wants to inflict the same pain on others - their need for revenge shows only the lack of their character and compassion.

American parents who want their children to avenge and seek revenge on the ones who caused their pain - those American parents are no better than those who strap bombs on their children and are happy when the bomb detonates.

Hillary went too far!

This op-ed article by Peggy Noonan summarizes why I think Billary campaign against Obama was vulgar!

WSJ-This is an amazing story. The Democratic Party has a winner. It has a nominee. You know this because he has the most votes and the most elected delegates, and there’s no way, mathematically, his opponent can get past him. Even after the worst two weeks of his campaign, he blew past her by 14 in North Carolina and came within two in Indiana.

He’s got this thing. And the Democratic Party, after this long and brutal slog, should be dancing in the streets. Party elders should be coming out on the balcony in full array, in full regalia, and telling the crowd, “Habemus nominatum”: “We have a nominee.” And the crowd below should be cheering, “Viva Obamus! Viva nominatum!”

Instead, you know where they are, the party elders. They are in a Democratic club on Capitol Hill, slump-shouldered at the bar, having a drink and then two, in a state of what might be called depressed horror. “What are they doing to the party?” they wail. “Why are they doing this?”

You know who they are talking about.

read more

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/hillary-went-too-f ar

talent scout
What,me worry???
You can copy and paste your 'Wimpy Replies'and save them for Roberta and Halitosis-D.I'm sure you will need them sooner or later,today.

Rowly & Talent Scout
Again, am I suppose to respond to you couple of really intelligent gents? For what??

Rowley
I do not respond to anything the utterly insane Robert writes.

Even I, have limits.
He is outside the universe I live in.

In fact he is past just twisting words to mean anything he wants them to mean, he has developed his own universe that is unfriendly for sane people.

Best leave the alien alone, and I do that

Opinion alert!
It is clear that all manner of racist, bigoted, and anarchist opinion is being displayed in this area.

Cease and desist immediatlely! Disperse and go to your homes! Move along, now, nothing to see here!

All hail the Obama!

I remain,

Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant,

GW

Wimpy is not gone!
LionHeart
3:32 PM EST
Rowly & Talent Scout
Again, am I suppose to respond to you couple of really intelligent gents? For what??

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ts:
My hopes and dreams are refreshed, just seeing his royal screen name.
Hey wimpy, how else am I to learn who I am if you do not tell me?

Give me a break!!!!
What is wrong with you people? You are as bad, if not worse than the media. Maybe instead of sitting here complaining you should get off of your butts and do something. Have you forgotten what this election is really about? It definately is not about race or gender or age. It is about fixing a country that is broken. So broken that people have to make a choice between gas and groceries. Or maybe a choice between life saving medications or food. Take your pick. We as a country should be able to focus on what is really important, not what color someone is or how old they are, or that they are a female. Maybe when we can all see the REAL issues, we will be able to solve them.

Retired Geek...

You're on target! Doesn't it always seem to boil down to Class-Envy for the Liberals. Envy may be the most dangerous 4-letter word in the dictionary.

I could give my daughter a bag of sh*t for Christmas, and her girlfriends would demand their parents by them one.

leelee et al
Do you really think that poiticians have the answer?

Obama wants to hurt the oil industry with taxes.

Hillary wants to take their profits.

McCain only God knows what he wants.

Politicians place bandaids on problema not solve problems.

What do you think is the solution?

Gas and taxes
Raise taxes or lower them or have a 'tax' holiday and that will help supply sources - exactly how?

Heck, even the first woman


To run for Vice President of the United States is defined by others today as a racist pig.
Who would have thought the democrats would turn on a woman , a woman who they thought so highly of to place on the ticket for the 2nd highest office in the land.

Lol, well folks, as all should know by now, the name calling is not to find any facts or truth, its to HIDE BOTH, so weasels and snakes can take over America.
Like all three running for office today.
Either a weasel or a snake, take your pick




(Ms. Ferraro actually had the temerity to state, “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.”)

http://politicalmavens.com/index.php/2008/05/11/why-cant-a -man-be-more-like-a-woman/


MICHELLE OBAMA'S RACIST THESIS-READ NOW!
If the Obama campaign didn't consider Michelle Obama’s inner thoughts of this thesis being revealed a liability, then why did she have access to the thesis blocked at the Princeton website until November 8th…a few days AFTER the national Presidential election on November 4th???

BUT thanks to DontVoteObama.com we now have the photocopies of it HERE!

READ IT FOR YOURSELF:

MICHELLE OBAMA THESIS PART !:
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/adobe/michelle%20Obama%20thesi s%20part%201.pdf

MICHELLE OBAMA THESIS PART 2:
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/adobe/michelle%20Obama%20thesi s%20part%202.pdf

MICHELLE OBAMA THESIS PART 3:
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/adobe/michelle%20Obama%20thesi s%20part%203.pdf

MICHELLE OBAMA THESIS PART 4:
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/adobe/michelle%20Obama%20thesi s%20part%204.pdf

Michelle Obama not only separates whites and blacks in society, but she elevates blacks over whites in her world. "There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". As First Lady, she would have numerous resources to reach this goal. Again, not exactly "first lady" material!

THIS WOMAN IS NOT 1ST LADY MATERIAL !

SOURCE: http://www.dontvoteobama.net/?gclid=CJK4iJ69oZMCFQw1awodpk yUww

PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO A FRIEND!

Talent Scout said
"talent scout
Location: CO

Reply # 17
Date: May 13, 2008 - 1:18 PM EST Love ya Shells"


See TS, if you say you love me, you can't be an anti-semite! You just hugged a Jew online!

Carlos
My fellow soldier I hope everything is well with you and yours!

That being said: is it possible for all Americans to focus our energies on a common foe instead of other Americans?

I value your opinion as it is always clear and concise.

Retired Geek
You know, as creepy and as insane as that person was yesterday, somewhere out there, is someone much worse. There always is...

Even though you give me kudos from yesterday, I did act schoolyard and mocked Nemesys to the hilt.

It's really easy to spew hate speech on a website, but what's frightening though, those very people could be your neighbors and your coworkers.

MICHELLE OBAMAS THESIS....READ NOW!!!!!!
MICHELLE OBAMA’S RACIST THESIS NOW AVAILABLE: READ NOW



If the Obama campaign didn't consider Michelle Obama’s inner thoughts of this thesis being revealed a liability, then why did she have access to the thesis blocked at the Princeton website until November 8th…a few days AFTER the national Presidential election on November 4th??? BUT thanks to DontVoteObama.com we now have the photocopies of it HERE!



READ FOR YOURSELF – PLEASE PASS ON TO A FRIEND



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PART 3:

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PART 4:

http://www.dontvoteobama.net/adobe/michelle%20Obama%20thesi s%20part%204.pdf



Michelle Obama not only separates whites and blacks in society, but she elevates blacks over whites in her world. "There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". As First Lady, she would have numerous resources to reach this goal. Again, not exactly "first lady" material!



THIS WOMAN IS NOT 1ST LADY MATERIAL !



SOURCE: http://www.dontvoteobama.net/?gclid=CJK4iJ69oZMCFQw1awodpk yUww





Michelle Obama and focus
"There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". Michelle Obama

Retired Geek...

Yes we have a common foe indeed. Nicely put.

That foe seems to keep putting his/her name on that piece of paper we all call a Ballot.

Chillers:
I heard a tape of Michelle on the radio the other day and that really convinced me that McCain will win big come November. That woman is way too strong and sounds way too much like someone who spent 20 years in Rev. Wright's church. Not a happy camper. The perception will be she wants a roll as a co-Pres - a lot like Hillary was.

Obama's followers will certainly love her but those in the middle, who traditionally decide elections, will steer clear of her.

Also, after Obama gets shellacked in November everyone who is involved with an exit poll will say they voted for Obama for fear of being called a racist. Is this a great country or what?

Shells
Shells wrote: "Even though you give me kudos from yesterday, I did act schoolyard and mocked Nemesys to the hilt."

If it matters to you at all:

You lost NO respect from me. In fact you gained respect from me.

Narcissitic elitists sometimes will only respond in their thinking to ridicule - it is a sad fact but true.

They are so deeply in love with self - they will rise to protect self.

One who posts here at TH listens to no logical and reasonable argument - he will and does leave when I say this to him.

He suffers from "dyslexic logic" and "myopic reason" he has a lot of knowledge but everything he knows is wrong.

That surely is not a nice thing to say about anyone - some people have to be talked to in a language they understand - sad but true.

In the meantime Soldier "buck up" we need you and your wisdom - never grow weary in doing good.

This old WASP hugs and kisses you with this message!!

The race card
Anyone paying attention to this knew this whole time that anyone critical of Obama for any reason would be called racist. This is only going to increase as this election rolls near. As such when he loses to either the Clintons or McCain, it will be because of American racism, and not because he is a leaping, screaming socialist with a terrorist for a buddy and a lunatic for a pastor. This guy is so spectacularly unqualified to be president that any critism of him can not be tolerated by the drive by media because it sticks! So the game is simple, if you are voting for anyone other than Obama it is because of racism, and the goal is as always to shut people up. Of course one could argue that a vote for anyone but Hillary proves you are anti-woman, or that a vote for senator McCain proves you hate senior citizens.

If Obama were an IL white leg.
who decided to run for US Senate, starting at a party with two Weather terrorists, Ayers an Dohrn, and had spent 20 years at the Church of David Duke, and had received campaign support from a guy on trial for corruption, he would be toast nationally.
Obama is coddled by the press and promoted by the media. I see the Clintons and their supporters now think FOX is just the greatest news station. That's because FOX doesn't slant it's news and now that Hillary has been given the Rep./cons. treatment the NYSlimes usually reserves for Reps. (it barely even mentions who are Dems. and neglected to note for many IIPs a month ago that prostitute-loving Gov. Spitzer happened to be a DEMOCRAT), the Clinonites are all gung-ho FOX.
When Obama loses by a landslide in Nov., a la McGovern who only took MA, DC, and Guam, then the press will spend years calling all US voters bigots and racists until maybe the average guy gets sense enough to stop patronizing the creeps running these so-called news organizations.

Carlos we may be different
We are in the same Army fighting the same foe!

Those who are trying to destroy our way of life.

More have died by words in my lifetime than by wars. Millions of Jews, Russians, Europeans, Hispanics etc.

The phrase it is "For The People" usually isn't.

Keep on fighting!

Michelle Obama's Handwriting...

Analyzing Michelle's signature...

Michelle has a sense of humor. She is generous. Ambitious. Needs to be in control to feel secure. Self-conscious about her body. She is skeptical by nature. Sometimes allows her emotions get the best of her. Desires a rebel in a mate, a challenge. And she has a tendency to prevaricate.

Pretty typical American.

Shells
I have to echo Retired Geek's post above. You lost no respect from us AT ALL. You aquitted yourself with grace and decorum, in my opinion.

Besides, you know those two, "Aggie" and "Nemesys", ended up renting a hotel room yesterday.

;-)

asurferiamnot et al
Obama distanced him self for political reasons from Mentor Wright.

He didn't distance himself from black separatism though you notice.

How will Obama distance himself from his wife?

It will be interesting to watch him try and sell that 'snake oil'.

Carlos
Carlos wrote about Michelle Obama: "...she has a tendency to prevaricate..."

Surely not?

A politician and his wife prevaricating!

What a country!




Bring Out The Best?
I am amazed at the victrial and "emotional" rants that the Obama prospects of winning has produced.

Sure, this is America. One can speak their mind, their opinion, even their un-thought-through utterances. THIS IS AMERICA! The country that was founded on the principles that All Men Were Created Equal.

Now that a Black Man named Barack Hussein Obama is in serious contention for the White House, the real feelings of people are being manifested.

I have not yet decided who I will vote for in November. I know that I do not support a Clinton presidency because the good Senator has done nothing to earn the alligience and support that she feels that she is due just because she was the First Lady at one time.

She has proven to be a liar, self-absorbed, condescending, and completely in it for HILLARY.

As one of mixed race, I am wondering when all people will simply accept people as people.

Obama and "Change We Can Believe In"
I am trying to anaylize this:

Obama sat in his freewill hand selected "Mentors" church 23 years. Obama chose Mentor Wright to officiate his holy vows to Michelle. Mentor Wright baptised the Obama children.

Michelle Obama said she was first and foremost an advocate to the black community.

The Obamas were part of a salute to Farrakhan "Alien visitor" and lunatic.

James Cone who said he believed that any god who did not hate the whites needed to be killed was the cause of an epiphany in Mentor Wrights theology and teaching.

Obama never knew anything was going on like that but he assures us he is capable of listening to the "madman" from Iran and negotiating with him.

Am I missing something here?

What exactly is this "Change We Can Believe in"?

Where is the hope in this for me a WASP?



Authorized speech review
All of you typical white people stop this unapproved racist speech immediately.

GW

Shells... I read only as much as I could

stand of that nemesys... whatever...

BUT, what I read of your posts, you were, as ALWAYS, spot on!

And, you know where to get us when you need us.... But you were doing just fine....

And I second Ret. Geek and YLG. :-)


Clinton quote
Forgive me lord for quoting Slick Willie.

This Obama thing:

"Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."


Chuck
Calling me names will not work with me any more.

Obama and his Opologists have to come up with something other than the race card.

How about some facts that prove he will represent all American citizens?

Retired Geek...

I can't imagine it myself. But that's what's read into Michelle's handwriting. I must have the wrong book :)

Barack's handwriting makes her look like a Piker though.

Anne, Retired Geek and YLG
Thanks everyone for your support! You know, it still stuns me some people are like that. I felt like, "what else can I do?" to affect someone like Nemesys. So I gave her what she said someone like me was all about--and I went over the top to show her idiocy.

What really peed me off was what she said to Zedsmom though.

I haven't seen Nemecyst back yet, or Gaggie. And YLG, your post made me laugh...Those two in a room together...I can only envision paddles and dog choker chains.

Oy Vey!

Hillary's right and maybe wrong...
"There's no way that white people are going to vote for the black guy. Come November, you'll be sorry ..."

The only thing keeping Obama with a chance is John McCain. If Republicans had enough brains to nominate Romney or Thompson, either of them would carry 60% of the vote. So, we have a choice of the marxist or the RINO/liberal.

Hillary's right because white people (with brains) won't vote for Obama. Not because he's black, but because most are smart enough not to vote for a marxist. She's wrong because so many white Republicans are against McCain, many are going to vote third party or stay home which will give Obama that chance.

To everyone
Click on my name and stop by my blog to learn about Carl Magee, a great American whose achievement has touched the lives of all of us.

Hope to see all of you there!

Chuck

"She has proven to be a liar, self-absorbed, condescending, and completely in it for HILLARY."
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I think you just summed up most of Capital Hill.

Remember Barack Obama is part of that gang too.

His message is...

"Put your guns and children on your porch, the government will be by to pick up your punishments."



Question?
What do republicans and/or conservatives consider to be racist or over the line behavior from themselves when it comes to Barack Obama or black people.

jimmyshoe
Only to point out what an idiot you are, I can assure you that conservatives wouldn't hesitate to vote for Clarence Thomas, Michael Steele, JC Watts, Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder (I could go on). Of course, I'm sure that those guys are "uncle Toms" to you. In other words, white people can only vote for a black you approve of.

You're no different than Sharpton, Jackson, and now, Wright. You're a typical race hustler and an idiot.

Democrats Love Playing the Race Card!
Are you familiar with the highly contested congressional race in Mississippi?

Direct from the Michelle Malikin Website:

"Several Mississippi readers and bloggers e-mail that the Dems have pulled out the race card to smear GOP candidate Greg Davis as a KKK supporter. This is how it’s going to be." See the original Alan Lange article with pictures of the Democratic ad at the link for "Y’all Politics". Typical Democrats: play the race card when its to your advantage, but criticize Republicans or Hillary Clinton simply because they oppose a minority candidate like Brack Obama.

jimmyshoe....

understated!

Referring to yourself as "us" is a big clue. In saying "us", do you mean to imply that you are "different" from other people?

If "us" means you are "different", what is the difference? Do you feel superior to others (bigoted)? Or inferior (stereotyped)?

Here's The Real Question. . .
Retired Geek (By the way, I never called you any names), Carlos and all the rest of us O-Piners. . . .

Senator Obama has proven that he works for all people. I have spoken to several in Chicago, more white than black, that are completely sold out to his campaign for that reason. The whites who I spoke with, are in many ways, more enthusiastic for Obama than many Blacks. I can say that I honestly checked for myself. He has worked hard for all that he helped.

Any way, my question is, what makes Senator Clinton feel like she is due the allegience from black voters, any voters for that matter, that President Bill had? In addition, why are so many that were once loyal to her husband abandoning her?

I think that this is the real issue and over-riding issue in her campaign. If there was so much good about the prospects of a Hillary Clinton Presidency, Barack Obama, despite him being a black candidate, would be an afterthought. Jesse Jackson was black, however, the candidate that received the nomination made themselves irresistable, Hillary has not done this. Why?

jimmyshoe
I'm not scared to vote for someone who's black, but it has to be the RIGHT person for the job, and Obama "ain't" the one!

Pat hits the nail on the head...
Neither Clinton played the race card in this campaign. Those stating that they did so are ignoring the facts. If you really want the race card, take a look at how the main street media ignores blatent reverse racism - i.e. today Obama gets the "official endorsement" from New Orleans (re-elected) Mayor Ray Nagin. You remember the infamous statement that New Orleans post Hurricane Katrina would again be a "Chocolate City". Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton where right there to ensure that the Mayoral re-election was done properly, etc. What you got was incompetence re-elected. If Obama gets elected his cabinet will probably be filled with incompetent people.

Chuck
Just because he worked as a community activist in Chicago doesn't mean anything!

His record speaks for itself when it comes to life and liberty, and his associations with racists and Marxists/anarchists are quite telling, too.

Sorry, I'm not drinking that kool-aid...

wizzyg - back atcha
What do YOU consider to be racist or over-the-line behavior from yourself when it comes to anyone who is not black?

Now I am confused, too, along with being

A racist, anti-semite, paranoid, right wing conspiracy believing nutcase.

Reply # 17
Love ya Shells"

Shells 3:56 PM EST
See TS, if you say you love me, you can't be an anti-semite! You just hugged a Jew online!
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My split personality is now exposed to all, and this thread has worked like a good therapist for bringing me some understanding of who I am.

I was wondering if I was correct in thinking I am an anti-Semite when all my true hero's are Jewish.
Abraham, was he a Jew?
I know Moses was
I know King David was (my very favorite author)
I know Solomon was
I know the Prophets were
I know Jesus Christ was, and is, ever shall be.
I know all the Apostles were Jews.
I know the First Christian Church was entirely Jews.
But yesterday I found out I was an anti-Semite.

Now if this does not cause me consternation, finding out you also are Jewish,I never knew, I guess nothing surprises me any longer, being the old hard hearted right wing conspiracy loving old fanatic I am identified to be.

Its enough to make me check for coal in my athletic supporters.


No Kool-Aid Offered Here. . .
I am just stating a fact that you affirm.

Besides that, I do not believe that any Marxists/anarchists, Communists, elitists, racists, nor any other "ists" will win in Novembers election. I trust that the American people will vote the correct person in.

I do have a question for you. . .How can you speak about what is in someones heart? People have repeatedly said that he (Obama) is a Muslim. He said that he isn't. Despite this, "sound-bites" from WVa have folk still saying that he is. In the same vein, is there anything, at this juncture, that he could say or do that will would cause you to think that perhaps you have misjudged?

Just Wondering?

Talent Scout - LOL
Amen!! What you said...

Slavery
It is unfortunate that most blacks do not realize that the Democrat party policy is akin to slavery. Democrats want blacks to be kept in the poor house and public schooling so that they can never escape. The liberal left wants you in a constant state of fear and hatred for a successful United States so that you can be part of the socialist "revolution". Guess what, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

The only "Change" that will happen is that the Democrat party will eliminate your individual freedoms.

You are fooling yourself if you believe Obama and Pelosi will help you succeed.

When a small group of people can vote themselves more money, we are no longer living in a free society. we will be living in a communist country.


Race Cards and Speech Codes
Thank you Pat! I am so disappointed with the way the majority of the Black Pundits seem to be blindly supporting Obama with a one track mind ... I've never witness such turncoats in my 58 years of Black living!

Chuck
Are you telling me that his interests are for more than the black community? Does his wife share his vision? And, if that is truly the case, why did he attend a church pastored by a man who routinely use racially-charged language, and espouse a theology that is not rooted in the Bible?

I wouldn't even consider voting for a man who would oppose a law protecting innocent life. I wouldn't consider voting for a man that would consider sitting at a table with a world leader committed to the destruction of Israel as a nation.

Trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with his race. I'm totally opposed to his ideology. I wouldn't vote for Hillary, either (not even under the guise of Operation Chaos)

Chuck
I didn't call Obama any of those things, just pointed out that he associated with folks of those persuasions.

It really doesn't matter whether he's a Muslim or not. What matters is what he stands for. I've read enough about his voting record to know there's absolutely no way I'd vote for him!

Race Cards And Speech Codes
.....it is not 'A BLACK'I would never vote for...it is 'THIS BLACK'.

I. . . .Have Answers!
ex-Wyomingite. . .

I believe that you know why he is loosing/will loose WVa. Unfortunately, the results won't matter much. If anything it will give Hillary a talking point. You are making statements, but do you have an answer for my question; why are so many loyal to her husband abandoning her.

AJ
For the record, I am pro-life as well. As well, what would be the harm in talking to Israels enemies? I supprt and defend Israel whole-heartedly. But, what is wrong with talking to your enemies. We are the lone world superpower. There is no way that we would be threatened by Israels enemies and we not retaliate beyond any capability that they would have to destroy us.

There are times when you and the enemy knows who you are and what you can do, but the mere fact you are willing to talk, without compromising security and principles, speaks volumes of justification if and when you must, in Hillary's words, "Obliterate" them.

Regarding sitting in "that church" for 20 years;
How many have recently dissavowed family, friends, or associates that call folks niggers, chinks, haunkies, wetbacks, spicks, kites, nappy headed ho's, flat butted implant junkies, crackers, bird sh_t, sambo, darky, towel heads, whitey, small d_ck, etc.? How many friends, family, and/or associates have you dissavowed because they hold on to being "tribal" instead of respecting and receiving people based on their character?

If you are not willing to uphold the standard you impose on Obama, than you disqualify yourself from holding him to it; even if he is running for POTUS, and had a crazy, narcissitic, outdated, frustrated past pastor.

Chuck...

Many a conservative is sitting out the election, or writing in another/better name. It's not going to be conservative who do Obama in, it will be Democrats.

If Obama doesn't win because he is dark skinned, it is Democrats who need to look in the mirror.

Glad you Axed A.J.
1.Prejudice 2.The inability to treat others like you want to be treated because of their race. 3. Using not being a racist as an excuse for bad behavior.

Tru Dat. . .
Chuck!

Nixon Invented the Race Card
Republicans Invented the Race Card.

Southern strategy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

You people talk about Race like Joseph Goebel Talked about Jews. Propaganda at it's worst.
Before judging other people you need to look in the mirror. Unsuccessful people have a tendency to blame/hate other people for the quality of their life (Blacks and Whites). Why is majority of Racist in America Lower Middle Class or Poor? It's easy to blame others for your shortcomings.

wizzyg
I'd say we're in agreement WRT racism, then! Unacceptable no matter who is practicing it!

Dixiecrat=Republican
Little early to be sauced now isn't it?

WHAT A JOKE - as if it's news
ALERT THE MEDIA:
RACE MATTERS TO WHITE WEST VIRGINIANS!
IT MUST BE RACISM!!!

ON A COMPLETELY SEPARATE MATTER:
OVER 94% OF BLACKS IN NORTH CAROLINA VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!
NOTHING TO SEE HERE. MOVE ON.

OBAMA IS WHITE TOO
Seems as if too many people are not giving Obama his due credit. By saying he wouldn't do as well if he was white should be a slap in the face of ALL people. Thats like saying if GWB was black, he wouldnt be POTUS!! Both arguments hold no water.
Also, people must not know the definition of "racist". Black people voting 90% for a candidate does not mean we think we are superior to white people or any other race. Most black people (90%+) vote (D) when there is no black candidate.
People need to stop going to the extreme on both side of the aisle. We would do much better trying to understand each other rather than labeling and demonizing those who don't agree with us

Chuck
I'm not willing to give Ahmedinejad the benefit of the doubt. He's no better than some religious apocalyptic cultists here in the States...His position WRT the Jews and Israel is pretty firm IMHO.

There aren't any folks I associate with that use the kind of language you refer to above; moreover, the church I attend in Newport News VA is pastored by a black man whom I love and respect (yes, I'm white)...

You have no idea where I'm coming from, Chuck, yet you have no problems making assumptions...

Dixiecrat=Republican
Whose turnip truck did you fall from?

LISTEN TO HILLARY, BARACK!
If Obama were really as smart as his own wife says he is, he should listen to what Hillary is claiming. She is offering a sound perception of reality.
But instead, he listens to all these hyper-sensitive, reactional advisors he has around him. These people are, more times than not, just Jesse Jackson with a backpack. They will bend over backwards to get 99% of the black vote for him(big whoop). But he'll get trounced in Novemberby by those poor whites, clinging to their guns and religion in lil' ol states like West Virginia ya'll.
Look, speaking as a conservative; you Obama supporters take her advice, don't take her advice. I don't give a rip!
This is the one time in her life Hillary speaks the truth, and apparently, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

A J, glad you wacked wizzy & chuckie
They need a good whack, and you gave it to them

Stop Race baiting
"Race baiting is the act of using racially derisive language, actions or other forms of communication, to anger, intimidate or incite a person or groups of people, or to make those persons behave in ways that are inimical to their personal or group interests. This can also be accomplished by implying that there is an underlying race based motive in the actions of others towards the group baited, where none in fact exists. The term race in this context can be construed very broadly to include the social constructs which define race or racial difference, as well as ethnic, religious, gender and economic differences. Thus the use of any language or actions for the purpose of exploiting actual or perceived weaknesses in persons who can be identified as members of certain groups, or to reinforce a group's perceived victimhood, in order to do them some sort of harm, or to manipulate their behavior, can be contained within the concept of "race baiting." Many people who practice race baiting often believe in racism, or have an interest in making the group believe that racism is what motivates the actions of others."

Wikipedia

Showing race is not the issue anyway
RealBlackMan
Reply # 4
8:16 PM EST
OBAMA IS WHITE TOO
Seems as if too many people are not giving Obama his due credit.
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His politics are.
I do not like anything about what this man believes.

And that goes for him even if he was lilly white.


talent scout
I'd prefer to think of it as "rational discourse"...

I realize that folks are going to hate. The haters will pay, it may be now, it may be later. I know what I believe when it comes to the issues, and I'm not going to have someone attempt to appeal to my emotions, nor insult little intelligence I have!!

Unfortunately, it's hard not to get cynical these days when considering the government and politicians...

Talent Scout
The curious part is that too many conservatives are happy to indulge in EXACTLY the same smashmouth, dishonest "speech code" bullying that Buchanan points out... except that, by using the term "antisemite" instead of "racist," they believe that it's suddenly OK.

Reagan is NOT a God
Republicans talk about Reagan as if he was a God. The greatest thing since sliced bread.

The more power the Republicans party lose the higher the pedestal they erect for Reagan. As if he will come up from hell and lead them to the promised land.

In 20 years the Republican Party will confined the southern states. Where Reagan name will only be mention by Right-Wing zealots waving the confederate flag.

Dixiecrat=Republican
I agree. Race needs to be completely left out of the equation (sorry for the pun). The color of one's skin means nothing; the content of one's character means EVERYTHING.

I've been to Obama's website and looked at his positions on the issues of the day. I won't vote for him based on his policy positions.

RealBlackMan...

The envious (liberal) part of me wishes Obama does win. Then these ninnies across the Country can see communist cruelty firsthand.

I hope his first directive is to force these rich White college kids to move into a "South Side" flat. And that Obama stays in office long enough to "force" their toddlers to attend an inner-city day-camp.

Bring em' to their knees Obama!

Endless argument isn't it
RW writes:
8:54 PM EST
Talent Scout
The curious part is that too many conservatives are happy to indulge in EXACTLY the same smashmouth, dishonest "speech code" bullying that Buchanan points out... except that, by using the term "antisemite" instead of "racist," they believe that it's suddenly OK.
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ts:
I am old enough to remember when the run for President was about issues.

This is school yard arguments to call people names, and all it does is generate more of the same.

Everyone is so quick to accuse someone with some name tag, and never address an issue or have any courtesy to ask for clarification of a point.
Its much easier to just call them a name.





Dixiecrat
"In 20 years..."

And what will the rest of the country look like?

Hey Dixiecrat=Republican
Funny you should mention hell when talking of Reagan. Seeing as he truly beat the living hell out of you liberals not once but twice.
And save the lectures on resurrecting past heroes in debate.
If liberals like you gained an IQ point for everytime you mention FDR, well hell, I guess you'd be a Republican by now.
So save the lecture for Sunday at whichever "Trinity-type" church you attend down in GA.

He actually thinks this is debate
Dixiecrat=Republican Location: GA
8:56 PM EST
Reagan is NOT a God
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What does he expect a person to answer with?
Yes he is?
We all know that?

lol
Just plain stupid is what it is

Dixiecrat
Dude, you need to throw down that torch you're carrying.

Scared of Obama?
Whether or not people agree with Obama's political ideas, the MOVEMENT he has started should not be ignored or dismissed. Obama has people of ALL races and from all different backgrounds. Do yall think the millions of people from all demographics who have voted for him are all commies, socialists or any other adjective people have labeled him with? Too many conspiracy theories is what I think.

Talking about racial issues doesn't make you a racist. America as a whole has not dealt with the "race card" properly, in my opinion. I am happy at least we are discussing it which can only be a good thing.
The MSM only cares about ratings which is why I think they play the race card, not the candidates. They make money on exploiting the racial divides in this country and rarely ever have substantial conversations in a respectful manner.

What if God ask....
If God ask you, why are you a conservative? What would you say?

I want lower taxes(rationalization for greed).

I want smaller government(rationalization for greed).

Personal Responsibility(rationalization for greed).

I'm against Gay Marriage(This is the only thing I can find in the bible that I can use to promote my political belief morally. I know God, you say help the poor, but that goes againts my political belief. The government should not be involve in helping the poor. But the government should be use in prohibiting Gay Marriage).

I'm against abortion (pro-life, but only for the unborn. No health care for kids, sorry that would increase my taxes. I love money more than i love people).

Most of the items listed above are Self-interest. Things that Satan would invoke.

Hey!
A.J.

You need to stop assuming that I am making assumptions. I simply asked a question.

I am glad you attend church, regardless of the Pastors color.

See, it is possible for folk to agree. . . . .

We Both Love Jesus!

Dixiecrat=Republican
Haven't you heard? We can't wave the Confederate Flag anymore. It is not politically correct.Offends blacks,so it is taboo.

As for R.Reagan being on a pedestal,where do you think he should be? It is a pity you liberals don't have someone to compare him to.

Don't count your chickens too soon.You haven't won this election,yet.Anything can happen.These blind folks could still get their sight restored before it is too late.He could wind up at Ft.Marcy Park.Lots of things can happen,so don't get too cocky,Big Fella.















Dixiecrat=Republican
This is a fun little game.

You asked: If God ask you, why are you a conservative? What would you say?

I ask: If God asked you; Why are you pro-abortion? What will YOU say?

YOUR TURN!

Far from it
RealBlackMan
9:40 PM EST
Scared of Obama?
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ts:
I do not like him, or anything about him, nothing to like there for me.
From his politics to his religion to his racist views.
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RealBlackMan
Whether or not people agree with Obama's political ideas, the MOVEMENT he has started should not be ignored or dismissed.
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I have been dismissing his Marxism for as long as I first knew what it was, since the 1960's.

Whats more, he does not have a snow ball chance in he** to become President, thank God

La La La...

All this yapping, and Hillary is going to be the nominee after all. Watch out for Girl-power... and a brake-line failure on Obama's tour bus.

I'm Against Abortion
I'm also againts greed and corruption. And Before you ask: I'm also against Socialism.

Why am I having such a hard time
caring about this stuff anymore?


Here is the problem, and I will show it
Dixiecrat=Republican
9:44 PM EST
What if God ask....
If God ask you, why are you a conservative? What would you say?
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He would listen to me as I tell him, and not begin to accuse me of being a racist, or greedy, as you come to do.

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Dixiecrat=Republican
I want lower taxes(rationalization for greed).
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See how he has defined his question and already made his judgment.
No one can talk to this man or any like him.
They have closed their ears to an answer as they already have it judged.
This thinking and accusations is what keeps divisions working.
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Dixiecrat=Republican
I want smaller government(rationalization for greed).

Personal Responsibility(rationalization for greed).

I'm against Gay Marriage(This is the only thing I can find in the bible that I can use to promote my political belief morally. I know God, you say help the poor, but that goes againts my political belief. The government should not be involve in helping the poor. But the government should be use in prohibiting Gay Marriage).

I'm against abortion (pro-life, but only for the unborn. No health care for kids, sorry that would increase my taxes. I love money more than i love people).

Most of the items listed above are Self-interest. Things that Satan would invoke.
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He has his answers
My only question for him is having the answers already, why bother asking the questions?

Real Black Man
Obama's movement is like a bowel movement.The more you stir it the worse it stinks.

SURE, Dixiecrat=Republican, SURE
So you're against abortion huh? How CONVENIENT for you to be liberal and pro-life. The best of both worlds, huh?

It's a good thing you aren't running for office on a liberal ticket. You wouldn't get a dimes worth of support.

Abortion on demand is the liberals' stated mission on earth, along with gay rights, givaways and a yearning for socialism.

If you're truly pro-life, liberals have no place for you.

Back to Africa
I care not one whit about political correctness. I will not vote for B. Hussein because he is a racist black anti-American who disparages the working people in this country. In addition, he is a Marxist with a history of friendships with unsavory crazy types. He and his whining wife are not assets to this country, in my opinion, and I believe that they should depart immediately for Africa where life is good. Now is not too soon.

Pat Buchanan
Pat Buchanan can't help himself, can he?

talking about racism...
realblackman says that "talking about race is not racism." ah, but it is--if you're white.

it's ok to say that Barack Obama is going to win, say, NC because of the strong African American support in that state-- if you're black. if you're white and you say the same thing, you are a racist.

I know there are people out there who would never vote for a black man. I'm especially sorry to hear those views as some express them here on townhall, because for the most part the posters are an intelligent and thoughtful group of people. but, to paraphrase Jesus, "the idiots will always be with us."

for the the vast majority of people who don't support Obama it's not his color that concerns us, it's his policies, his judgment, his lack of experience...his obvious defensiveness and short temper during debates when someone dares ask him a hardball question...the offensive things said by his wife...the lack of principles that allows him to stand by the odious Rev. Wright for 20 years, only to throw Wright under the bus when it seems to be hurting his chances for the nomination.

but, of course, I support Hillary Clinton, so I must be a racist. that's the only reason to vote for her, right? to keep the black man in his place?

Bravo Mr. Buchanan,
Razor sharp analysis.

Contrary to Obama's speeches as well as to the far left's talking points, the Obama's candidacy is doing more damage to racial relationship than Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson combined.

It is funny how the Blacks do not see their own racial bias. And it is mind-boggling to hear the liberals from Obama's camp argue that Obama's candidacy has nothing to do with race. Given Hillary's and Obama's public policies are almost identical, how can you explain the 90% votes of the Blacks for Obama if not racially motivated?

The fact that Obama with a blank check (state legislator) and with Kucinich's ideology is now ascending to the top spot of the Democratic Party is just amazing--and scary. It is amazing how the once-great party has transformed itself into a joke, and it is scary for normal Americans who think the party is still a decent one.



Obama played the race card
To get the primaries votes, Obama played the race card repeatedly. Obama practically has the Democratic nomination, and he got it by age-dividing and race-dividing speeches. It took the major media four years to finally bring up Obama’s pastor’s inflammatory speeches. He has obtained what he wanted by divisiveness but now talks of uniting people. That’s easy to say now that he has practially secured what he wanted by divisiveness. This is a presidential election process we’re involved in for the leader of our nation. Mr. Obama displays poor judgment and a lack of integrity even at lower levels of service.

Obama told Mississippi voters, ”They’re trying to hoodwink you” because he didn’t like what Hillary Clinton said to him. Obama nudged African-Americans in the South by saying, ”You know the ole’ Okey-Doke.” Few in the media reported these remarks but TownHall News did. Obama has tried to win the vote by taking back to the 1960’s African-Americans whose ancestors were slaves. I don’t respect that he has riled up people in order to further his career. He has played the race card so voters would focus on himself as an icon in this country rather than looking at his uber-liberal voting record. We shouldn’t forget that and pretend it didn’t happen.

OBAMA MAKES HILLARY LOOK CONSERVATIVE!!
Its odd how things turn out sometimes. Obama is so liberal that he starts to make Hillary look more Conservative. Even McCain who is surrounded
by the liberal likes of Senator Lindsey Graham and Jack Kemp. So, a lot of blue collar fomerly Reagan Democrats start seeing Hillary as the more Conservative choice running for President.

Afterall, Bill Clinton was supposed to be a member of the Blue Dog Coalition. Maybe Bill and Hillary will learn that those same liberals they hoped they would champion cannot be trusted
because they will turn on you....even if your name is Clinton????

Wright? LMAO, how abot Ayers?
Rezko?

We're gonna have a blast with this big-eared goofball.

Chuck
We're all mixed race. How lucky the women turn out so great looking.

RealBlackMan #100
Its nice to see you back again. Though i don't always agree with your ideas and conclusions, i appreciate that you come on as a positive person with positive goals. Hang on to your cool. Your views look much better when expressed by someone with your attitude. Some posters here on TH, from both sides, jump to conclusions and get nasty to people who have never been nasty to anyone.
As for the Obama candidacy, racism will be a big factor for quite a few people, and gender a factor for another smaller group. Anyone who can't understand this takes the negative view. Its like leaving the serving line in a crowded college cafeteria. Who do you sit with when there are no empty tables. Guys sit with guys, whites sit with whites. Its a matter of comfort and choosing the more relaxed path. Not to say that all racism/genderism is this benign.

Dixiecrat of #105
You post a perfect definition of Jeremiah Wright's sermons. And its paid off handsomely for him.

Michigan Ruth
Of course you're not a racist. You're voting for Hillary because you're a feminazi. Just kidding, Honey, now don't you throw that vase, EEyowww. :-D

My wife leans Democrat. Some people wonder how we stay good humored about the other's politics. Its not difficult. Its too much fun consorting with the enemy.

Bill And Hill
If Hillary does not win and it looks like she is a goner,I predict she and Bill will be so incensed,they will want revenge.

I cannot see Hillary going back to her seat in the senate and go on with 'business,as usual'.It will be almost impossible for her to work with these same people who chose BHO over her.

If she isn't offered VP(or won't take it,if offered),she will have to be given an important cabinet position.That would be a mistake on BHO's part,because she would work on the inside to make him look bad.

If the angels smile on us,none of this will come about.Neither will win and all my speculations will be moot.That could still happen.It is hard to type with my fingers crossed,though.

John McCain will have an epiphany and become a conservative Republican,which would be a 'total transformation'.Oh heck,It is early,I must be still asleep.I KNOW I am dreaming.

Obama 08'?
I do no think Obama can win a national election. His wife Michelle is a liability, Rev. Wright is a liability, his Socialist ideals are a liability.

Undereducated White people....
Yep, that is what the CBS news guy said about Hillary's win in WV. Yet, never has CBS or msm said that it is undereducated black people that gave Obama wins in some states. Talk about racism in the media!

Excellent
The DEMOS crowning of their pre-ordained "champion" of change (hahahha) will be a disaster for them in November against McShamnesty. Us "American-Americans" (I like this label) will come out of the woodwork and hollows to insure our votes are counted AGAINST this leftist(BHO). With his racist wife in the mix, it's a sure thing he's going down to defeat in the general election. There will be swarms of WASP's (hahhaha) lining up at the polls to deal the leftists another resounding defeat.

Reply to # 118 Dixiecrat=Republican

What if God ask....
If God ask you, why are you a leftist? What would you say?

I want higher taxes for people I don't like(rationalization for theft).

I want bigger government to help me(rationalization for theft).

Group Responsibility(rationalization for theft).

I'm against "rich" people(This is the only thing I can find in the bible that I can use to promote my political belief morally. I know God, you say help the poor help themselves, but that goes against my political belief. The government should not be involved in helping the poor help themselves. But the government should use The Tax to rob anyone but me).

I'm against Personal Responsibility (responsibility, but only for the Undesirables. No personal responsibility, sorry that would make my actions more important in my destiny than holding the Undesirables responsible for my fate. I covet other's money more than I covet a moral responsible life).

Most of the items listed above are Self-interest. Things that Satan would invoke.
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