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Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Subprime Nation
by Pat Buchanan
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Since it began to give credit ratings to nations in 1917, Moody's has rated the United Statesw triple-A. U.S. Treasury bonds have been seen as the most secure investment on earth. When crises erupt, nervous money seeks out the world's great safe harbor, the United States. That reputation is now in peril.

Last week, Moody's warned that if the United States fails to rein in the soaring cost of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the nation's credit rating will be down-graded within a decade.

Our political parties seem oblivious. Republicans, save Ron Paul, are all promising to expand the U.S. military and maintain all of our worldwide commitments to defend and subsidize scores of nations.

Democrats, with entitlement costs drowning the federal budget in red ink, are proposing a new entitlement -- universal health coverage for the near 50 million who do not have it -- another magnet for illegal aliens. Moody's is telling America it needs a time of austerity, while the U.S. government is behaving like the governments we used to bail out.

California has already hit the wall. With an economy as large as a G-8 nation, the Golden State is looking at a $14 billion deficit in 2009 and a $3 billion shortfall in 2008. Gov. Schwarzenegger has called for slashing prison staff by 6,000, including 2,000 guards, early release of 22,000 inmates, closing four dozen state parks and a 10 percent across-the-board cut in all state agencies. The Democratic legislature is demanding tax hikes, which would drive more taxpayers back over the mountains whence their fathers came.

Meanwhile, Washington drifts mindlessly toward the maelstrom. With the dollar sinking, oil surging to $100 a barrel, the Dow having its worst January in memory, foreclosures mounting, credit card debt going rotten, and consumers and businesses unable or unwilling to borrow, we appear headed into recession.

If so, tax revenue will fall and spending on unemployment will surge. The price of the stimulus packages both parties are preparing will further add to the deficit and further imperil the U.S. credit rating. This all comes in the year that the first of the baby boomers, born in 1946, reach early retirement and eligibility for Social Security.

To stave off recession, the Fed appears anxious to slash interest rates another half-point, if not more. That will further weaken the dollar and raise the costs of the imports to which we have become addicted. While all this is bad news for the Republicans, it is worse news for the republic. As we save nothing, we must borrow both to pay for the imported oil and foreign manufactures upon which we have become dependent.

We are thus in the position of having to borrow from Europe to defend Europe, of having to borrow from China and Japan to defend Chinese and Japanese access to Gulf oil, and of having to borrow from Arab emirs, sultans and monarchs to make Iraq safe for democracy.

We borrow from the nations we defend so that we may continue to defend them. To question this is an unpardonable heresy called "isolationism."

And the chickens of globalism are coming home to roost.

We let Europe to get away with imposing value-added taxes averaging 15 percent on our exports to them, while they rebate that value-added tax on their exports to us. Thus, the euro has almost doubled in value against the dollar in the Bush years, as NATO Europe begins to bail out on Iraq and Afghanistan.

We sat still as Japan protected her markets and dumped high quality goods into ours and China undervalued its currency to suck jobs, technology and factories out of the United States. Now, China and Japan have $2 trillion in cash reserves. The Arabs have an equal amount of petrodollars. Both are headed here to spend their depreciating dollars snapping up U.S. assets -- banks, ports, highways, defense contractors.

America, to pay her bills, has begun to sell herself to the world.

Its balance sheet gutted by the subprime mortgage crisis, Citicorp got a $7.5 billion injection from Abu Dhabi and is now fishing for $1 billion from Kuwait and $9 billion from China. Beijing has put $5 billion into Morgan Stanley and bought heavily into Barclays Bank.

Merrill-Lynch, ravaged by subprime mortgage losses, sold part of itself to Singapore for $7.5 billion and is seeking another $3 billion to $4 billion from the Arabs. Swiss-based UBS, taking a near $15 billion write-down in subprime mortgages, has gotten an infusion of $10 billion from Singapore.

Bain Capital is partnering with China's Huawei Technologies in a buyout of 3Com, the U.S. company that provides the technology that protects Pentagon computers from Chinese hackers.

This self-indulgent generation has borrowed itself into unpayable debt. Now the folks from whom we borrowed to buy all that oil and all those cars, electronics and clothes are coming to buy the country we inherited. We are prodigal sons, and the day of reckoning approaches.

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sorry..
sorry about the multiple postings, it was done in error

sorry
sorry about the multiple posting, it was done in error

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The only dependable guage:
Alas, it is the unchangeable nature of mankind to wait, I said WAIT, until it is no longer possible to avoid corrective action which is always painful~~and on the issues PJB is discussing very very painful.

Sorry, but there is only one solution that is going to actually work. You can talk it up both ways. You can go Rush L. [bright cheery future]
or you can go PJB [end coming up soon] and you
will not get significient numbers of men to actually change the way they live and vote.

What will? America has to actually experience
what PJB warns against, then he'll be proven right.

If it never happens, then PJB was wrong ~~ and America parties on. Let the good times roll.

If PJB is right, then America will make serious and large-scale changes because it will be FORCED on her to do it ~~ in order to survive.

You might be thinking: "Well, it'll be to late then." Answer to that is the same as up above
ie you can't know that because you do not know the future. You can't demonstrate that America will not be able to pull out of, for example a serious economic DEPRESSION [yes I said depression]

"But nobody wants to have to do it that way!"
Really? Are you sure about that?

The kook is now the mainstream, almost
I have heard Pat preaching his brand of the sky is falling for about 15 years, and he always got treated as a wingnut back then.

Today, much less so. (Thank God) :)

Very interesting.

Huck/Paul '08!

ex-Wyomingite writes:
"all empires, including this one, die anyway."

One more thing. As a historian, can you agree to the fact that previous empires died because they stretched themselves to far and adopted a policy of monetary suicide?

The very same things we are doing today. How likely is it that we will not reach the same fate?

ex-Wyomingite writes:
"There is truly nothing as annoying as fact and history getting in the way of theory, is there?"

We are in agreement there but the issue I still have with using the actions of Madison and Jefferson in fullfilling manifest destiny as a litmus for intervention policies abroad just doesn't add up. I honestly don't understand how you can compare the two. I'm no historian, and I commend you for such work; I'm just a retired sailor that knows that we are going to have to make some major sacrifices if we are to pass the mantle onto another generation.

"What specific economic woes putting us in peril, as brilliantly summarized by REDLAC above, can be fixed by strict constructionalism?"

Here comes the sacrifices. On the international scale we have to own up to the fact that we cannot afford to be the world's policeman any longer. We have over 700 military bases in 134 countries that we simply cannot afford to maintain. Yet Dr Paul suggests bringing some of these troops home and he is labeled a islotationist. Have the very people making those claims not labeled all other nations as having a policy of isolationism because they don't have such a massive military complex? I was stationed overseas for 14 out of my 21 years on active duty. It is those reasons I stated above as why we are considered to be imperialistic.

On a domestic level we have to take a good hard look at the swelling social programs we have enacted and eliminate those not specifically authorized, which includes some recent trade agreements.

Both of these are painful but vital. Someone needs to get the message out to the general audience. Dr Paul is trying to do that.

ex-Wyomingite
You may very well be correct, and it is true that all empires must come to an end. However, that does not mean that we should give up without a fight. Many of us have woken up from our slumber, and we realize that at least in this election, there is one clear choice for president to hopefully stem the tide. That is Ron Paul.

It may be too little to late, and it may very well be that Ron Paul cannot be elected -- but I will rest well tonight knowing that I have placed my vote for Ron Paul (I live in Michigan) and thus spoke out against the coming darkness. We may lose in the effort, but let it not be said that we stood by and did nothing.

the wisdom of Pat B continues to impress
Some honest posters here have noted that while they might not agree with Pat on everything (such as the disconnect between wanting to get back at those bad Arabs and the neoCON agenda/bent to invade Iraq), that his perceptions tend to be prescient when looked back upon. Frankly, I agree with most of what he says, but many simply find the truth inconvenient and unsettling.

We ARE spending way beyond our means and owing that to some who do not love us; we ARE listing inexorably toward the nanny state... we see a problem and foolishly fathom that "the govt. ought to do something about it"; we DO waste a fortune maintaining military bases in places where our planes, etc., could check an opponent in a hurry; we DO irritate Islamics, 90% of whom believe that we are Israel's pawn; we DO get out-traded by the competition. In the business arena, we keep making the same mistakes (foolish lending habits, outmoded technology), then whine about what we reap. We DO overindulge on scarce resources (gas guzzlers) and eschew moving to better ways. Somebody must do what Pat does until others have sense enough to listen....

ex-Wyomingite
Well, to start, we can look at the formation of the Federal Reserve and the ability to print money without the backing of gold or silver. By allowing a non-elected entity control our money supply and then allowing our government to borrow billions of dollars from that group whenever they desired more cash, we have allowed our government to spend beyond their means for decades. They can continue to just ignore their deficits until the debt is so large that it threatens to destroy the entire nation.

Consider that when the state governments run a deficit, they are forced to make tough decisions to cut spending or raise taxes to balance their budgets. This is healthy! It keeps them accountable and honest. They cannot simply print additional money to cover their shortfall; they have to answer to it. Imagine if our federal government had had to do the same. They would have addressed the shortfall long ago and cut back programs to what could be sustained.

The Constitution clearly stated that only congress could issue currency, and that it was supposed to be based on gold and silver. We should have listened to the inherent warnings in that law.

Fabius
Amen, and amen! Preach it, brother!

Michigan: The Elephant in the Room
We haven't heard the Republican candidates respond to these issues very much, if at all, even with the Michigan primary being held today.

Why?

Because to respond to these issues goes beyond conventional Republican policy solutions.

Are tax cuts enough?

Are significant spending cuts realistic?

Are balancing America's budget and trade accounts realistic?

Can America stop the dollar's tanking?

Can America reduce her military commitments world-wide to reduce our fiscal expenditure?

I'm optimistic, but that is because I'm willing to challenge conventional wisdom, traditional orthodoxies, and sacred cows.

But of the leading Republican presidential candidates: I'm not so sure.

Most of what Buchanan speaks of, is too far over the horizion for conventional politicians to tackle. Yes, many of us, including Pat, can see these challenges, but because too many Republican oxes are gored in the telling, the full extent of the problem will not be recognized in the current election cycle.

I wish it were not so, but I am afraid it is.


Solutions
Since the early 80's our annual deficits have almost always been larger than those we ran at any time prior - leading to the $9.7 trillion in debt we now owe the world. If we wish to stop being a debtor, then we have to stop running deficits. The second step is to have an industrial policy - not just a trade policy. Certainly people can agree that the issue is not just jobs - but national security. After all, if you lose an industry, you lose the engineering and technical base that goes with it and the capacity to innovate as well as the future industries. Eventually, that undermines national security. The third step is recognize that we cannot pay for the entitlements that we have, without substantial revisions to those programs. Our current tax base absorbs some 20% of our gross domenstic product. In 40 years, that is projected to be 40%. Other industrial countries such as France and Germany are already in the mid - 30's. The fourth step is to recognize that a country whose economy was once 50% of world output can afford one type of an international and defense policy, where-as one whose economy is at 22% and declining towards 15% or lower in the next 20 years cannot.

At this point, however, I don't see anything that would suggest that this country is willing to deal with these issues. We have almost no meaningful discussion of trade or industrial policies, talk only about spending - whether on defense or more social programs, never talk about getting our finances in order or why we should do so, and cannot remotely discuss our international and defense commitments without resolving to shouting and name calling.

Listening to some, of course, you'd think this was an important election. The more practical fact is that the important election will come only at the point that some common concensus develops. And right now - there is none.

ex-Wyomingite writes:
"which Constitution is it that you would like us to start with?"

Obfuscating fact and history is not the response I expected, but nothing really surprises me at TH anymore. So let's clarify things.

Madison was in fact a ardent originalist of the Constitution. You are ofuscating an issue with state rights in relationship to Federal powers in your manner of presentation.

Justice Scalia even concluded from Madison's writings, which include Federalist #10, not so long ago that "that the meaning of the Constitution should always be the same as when it was ratified."

A key note made by Madison was the "virtues" of his Constitutional interpretation and declared that while textualism will not prevent tyranny by the majority, it will not facilitate it. An evolving Constitutional interpretation, however, will advance such a vice.

Care to re-think your stance on nation building and your sorry interpretation of Madisons actions in some sort of perverse justification for said ventures?

For Some Reason
Things that are made in Washington begin showing their effects in California first, then moves eastward.
I know that Pat Buchanan has been tolling the bell for a long time, no one hears it.

Really?
Charlie...come on now..."national disaster which will make that of Europe's two great wars on its nations look tame in comparison..."

World War I saw millions die and the total collaspe of empires (Prussian, A-H, Ottoman, Russian). World War II lead to the destruction of more empires Look at British in 1939 and again in 1949...within 20 years of the end of the war they had lost their entire empire--one of Pat's reasons why the UK should have never fought Hitler in 1939. Killed millions more, plunged whole nations into despotic rule as the Soviets gained all of eastern and most of central Europe. Unless you assume what Pat likes to claim--"its the end of the world.....", I don't think anything that happens to the US in the future will approach Germany 1919 or 1945.


HOLD ON PAT!
"Our" self-indulgent generation (I assume you mean that "me, me, me" baby boom group) is solely to blame for the current condition of this nation?
Johnson, Nixon, and the Democrat Congresses who served during their terms DEBT financed the Vietnam engagaement AND LBJ's "Great Society", and this nation has done nothing but accrue more debt in the form of interest on this debt ever since!
Although Clinton and Bush2 are "baby boomer" Presidents, most of the "old guard" of the US House and especially the US Senate have not been, and are not now (although we are now seeing many retire and/or die-off), during the only "baby-boomer" Presidential administrations of the same generation.
Pat, perhaps the problem has been that our father's hung on to power for far too long! BTW, which generation was it that reset Social
Security to pay to themselves more than they ever put into it, even if interests on those investments were added? Which generation legislated Medicare and has received the greatest benefit from it?
The leadership of the USA has been worthless the Eisenhower years in the 1950s!
At least give Bush2 some credit for trying to engage legitimate debate on reforming Social Security and Medicare and just look at the bullets he had to take over that! Meanwhile, we merrily continue on our way to the ultimate national disaster which will make that of Europe's two great wars on its nations look tame in comparison, and I don't think there will be a "Marshall Plan" in store for the USA.

Chinese banks
And if you think the US has problems, Chinese banks are bankrupt if you used western standards, the SOES are sucking billions of Yuan out of the econony every year with injections of cash from places like Taiwan keeping the economy from tanking.

Then there are the almost daily revolts by the peasants and the list goes on and on.


Taiwan p.s.
And the TRA itself has often been ignored. It requires the US to sell weapons of a defensive nature to Taiwan. Didn't top the hero of the conservative movement, RWR from signing the 1982 Washington Agreement which stopped arms sales to Taiwan until 1992 when Bush 41 decided to sell the F16A/Bs to Taiwan (in response to the French selling the Mirage 2000s to Taiwan). This was also done more for domestic conerns. 1992 was an election year and Bush needed Missouri votes and there was pressure on him from those quarters to sell the F16s.

I do think though that Reagan was sucked into doing this by the panda-huggers of George HW Bush and James Baker.


Taiwan
Rama:

The charge that Taiwan may be invaded by China tomorrow is simply foolish. Since the DPP got destroyed by the KMT/PFP forces in the most recent election and Hsieh will get destroyed by Ma Ying Jeou in the upcoming presidential election in March, there will be no cause for China to invade. As long as Taiwan keeps up the myth that it is part of a China, China will do nothing toward it. the former presidential candidate for the KMT Lian Zhan (Lien Chan) has even made trips to China and met with Hu Jintao. The KMT and the PRC are best friends these days and China has bigger things to worry about than Taiwan and with the KMT having total power again (note it had a working majority in the Li Fa Yuan before the elections because of the support of the PFP, even if the DPP was the largest party in the Li Fa Yuan) once Ma is elected there is no chance of any moves toward formal independence--and even under Chen and the DPP that would never happen.

Also note that China's ability to have a successful invasion of Taiwan is very suspect. It could though install a blockade and launch some of the 800-missiles in Fujian into Taiwan.

Also, the TRA doesn't require the US to protect Taiwan and looking at the history of the US, I'd be very suspect of US help. The US is a very fickle and unreliable friend and you depend on it at your own peril.

ex-Wyomingite writes:
"is there anything in your mind we can do to prevent our complete destruction?"

We can start here:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overvi ew.html

Trade
Fight4right:

"We roll over on every trade dispute." No, you lose trade disputes because the US like many other countries engage in anti-free trade practices and when it gets called in front of the WTO, it loses.

Troops in the world and in Japan, the ROK and elsewhere are to defend America's interests which sometimes and sometimes do not dovetail with the host country's interests. As a former PM of Japan pointed out in the 1990s, US troops in Japan were never there to protect Japan but to project American power into the region.

The US is probably correct in having troops in Japan and elsewhere as it is better for it to project power and difuse problems when it has power in the area than wait for the problems to grow and have to difuse them years later off the coast of Guam or Hawai'i. A disarmed Japan and a China not paranoid over Japan's designs or a peaceful Taiwan Strait is in America's interest. An arms race between Japan and China or a war in the Taiwan Strait is not. Ron Paul and Pat are too dim to understand this point.


How could a tin foil hatted
Idiot,a moron, afool or "isolationist" do any more damage to this country than the ones in office already?

I fail to see any difference between a moron and GW Bush and company.
Or
ANY of the lying politicians this country is now producing hand over fist.

If a Moron gives the country away, is that worse than if an elected "leader" gives it away?

It would be a blessing to find a complete idiot that democrats and republicans are against and hand him the office of President.
No moron could possibly screw the entire country as bad as the thieves we now have elected.

spelling error
stopping not stooping

Redlac
The answer to this situation is to not elect another elite from either party, but how many out there have the guts to do that?

We have been duped by the two elitist parties who use the old ploy of telling a lie over and over until it is accepted as true. That lie is that only "they" have the wisdom, knowledge, and experience to govern. Hence, each election, we vote once again for the lesser of two evils because we believe we have no other choice, nowhere else to go.

If we ever wake up to this scam, we might actually have a shot at restoring the Constitution, rule of law, and will of the people as the principles of self-governance. The key here is to start right at the top and deny the elites the Presidency. Nothing else can reverse this course we are on! Only an independent President who will stand for those founding principles and for the rightful owners of this nation, "we the people" even has a chance of stooping the insanity.

That insanity is defined by Einstein as doing the same thing but expecting a different result. How then can electing another elite, Dem or GOP, be good for America?

If you want to see a way out and a alternative to the DEM/GOP/MSM propaganda, I urge you to visit my website, joeolivaforpresident.org.

I am the only candidate not tied to political party machines, PACs, coporations, or money grubbing lobbyists. I have no career to defend and no position of wealth to maintain. I do have an undying love of this nation and I will stand up to the elites.

Check out the site, why not? The elites have stolen our birthright! When the hell are we going to reclaim it? Trust another elite? Insane! Thanks, Joe

Slippery Slope
I would also point out that at no time in history have we seen governments and trading blocs accumulating literally trillions in capital, and then using that capital to buy up industries. It used to be almost excuslively business to business acquisitions and mergers. Now it is also government to business. And then, of course, explain the logic of enabling middle eastern countries to buy up important assets, settle in on those boards of directors, and then, increasingly influence their economic decisions. If you don't like a president's polcies - after all - donate a few million to someone you do like. It's a very slippery slope indeed.

Pual/Buchanan
Like an alcoholic, our country must hit rock bottom before we change our ways. At least a few of us RP and PB supporters will be able to say we saw it coming and voted correctly.

Dave
Who will work in our farms and fields?

How about the welfare mamas and papas who go fishing or drink wine on their porch while they wait for the federal check to arrive every month?

Pat must be one of them Paulites
Implying that the creation of monopolized, interest bearing debt (what you and I call the U.S. dollar) out of thin air isn't the source of wealth. Heresy most rank.

Anybody watch Dr. Paul try to explain to the SC GOP the reality that fiat currency is only the ILLUSION of prosperity and that the Fed actually lays the foundation for an inevitable future and worse crisis whenever it tries to paper over the current? Zoom!!!! Right over their heads. "When's he goan get to da part 'bout bombin' dem der Islamerfascits what wanna kill us 'cause we gots ourselves some freedoms?" they seemed to have wondered.

We borrow from totalitarian China and Saudi Arabia so that we can invade and destroy and rebuild Iraq and protect Israel while being thrice as generous to the mortal enemies of the Jews? So that we can fund the aspirations of the dictatorial rival to the now-slain democratically elected president of Pakistan? Makes sense. So that you and I, peaceful, productive citizen, can be forced into a situation so inflationary that it becomes impossible not to live off debt, let alone save and invest?

Well, maybe we should just stop fussin' and worryin' so much and just trust Ben and the Boys to do the right thing with our economy; they've been titans to date, after all. Let go and let the Fed. Well said, Fred.

Who needs mathematics and economics when we've got chest-thumping, fang-baring, sabre-ratting, feces-hurling, down-home, country-fried goodness? And flag pins for our lapels?

Now which channel's NASCAR on?


Day of Reckoning
I watched the video podcast of Buchanan's interview with Lou Dobbs about his book "Day of Reckoning". While his article here on "Subprime Nation" is dead on with its description of what has happened and what is happening, his solutions (given in that video) exhibit the same hubris he decries in his most recent book, "Day of Reckoning".

For example, his solution (following that of Tom Tancredo and Mitt Romney) to send them all (10-12 illegal aliens, most of them probably Mexican) "all back" will be devastating in both the short and long terms.

Yes, we do need to get control of our border. But both a problem called "Roe v Wade" which, since its enactment by the U.S. sub-Supreme Court has terminated the lives of around 50,000,000 U.S. unborn babies. This has decimated, along with birth control, careerism, and socialism the number of children born per woman in this country.

It takes at minimum 20-30 years or more to give birth to, raise and train a whole generation. Sending most of the "illegals" home to Mexico and other Latin America countries will both exacerbate our labor shortage in the short term, and in the longer term.

And building a wall and sending them back will in no way turn America's young adults into marrying, child-bearing and child-rearing responsible citizens. It will not marry the 70% of twenty-somethings. It will not alter the anything goes hedonism that has engendered and caused to flourish homosexuality, which, child-wise, is a fruitless lifestyle.

Who will work in the farms and fields of our country? And if so, at what price to farmers, and ultimately to us, as individual consumers and as a nation?

—Diligent Dave

We deserve our fate
The genius of this system of government is that it is based on the law, not on the promises and pandering of persuasive politicians. We have fallen for those promises over the last few decades and pretty much abandoned the supreme law, the US Constitution.

Go to Youtube and listen to Ron Paul expound on this idea that we can save the country and restore sanity by merely following the Constitution. Not him as savior, but the ancient wisdom of the founders.

He is the only candidate who doesn`t promote himself as know-all wise leader, but merely prescribes that we follow the Constitution, the document that guided us for 200 years.

Adherence to that philosophy would have had us avoid all the undeclared wars in Viet Nam, Bosnia, Korea, Iraq,and Kuwait. Conformance to the enumerated powers limitations would have prevented FEMA, SSI, Medicare, Depts of Education, Energy, HUD, Commerce, and the Federal Reserve from ever being formed.

The answer is before us and has been for centuries, but people ridicule Dr. Paul for advocating it.

We deserve our fate.

ex-Wyomingate
When people preached woe over Japan, we were still a creditor nation and did not have a $9.7 trillion debt owned by others nor an almost $800 billion dollar trade deficit. The baby boomers - a far larger group than the WWII generation - were 25 years from retirement. There was no NAFTA, no Chinese Trade Agreement, no India Trade Agreement, and Europe did not put a 15% value added tax on our products while exempting their's, without us reciprocating. The Europeon Economic Union had not combined their economies under the shelter of a single Economic policy and a single currency, nor did they have open borders and free trade within the Union. We were confronting a rising nation of 120 million, not one of 1.2 billion, a second of 1 billion, and a third bloc of almost 600 million. Today, all of this has transpired - completely changing the world's economic landscape. Our policies then were part mercantilist, and part free trade - but we did not simply throw our borders open to any trade unless the other countries, in general, reciprocated on import duties on each product category. These are seismic shifts.

Our economy at the time was the world's largest - today it is down to 22% and steadily declining. Our dollar is the weakest it has been in the post-WWII era. Our debt has become so large - that other countries now dictate our trade policies. We cannot negotiate with the Chinese, Japan, the Saudi's or the Europeons at the same time that we continue to ask them to support the dollar and buy our debt. Int hose days, we were not encumbered by such restrictions.


And, we had not begun the process of outsourcing our manufacturing and technology industries. Now we do.

The very fact that you'd even bring up Japan demonstrates the problem that we have with most Americans these days. It has absolutely no relevance. It's a little like comparing Iraq to WWII in both scale and substance.

American Oil???!!!
Why don't we form a national oil company (let's call it American Oil) to compete with Exxon, Chevron etc. We have drill stations and refineries built, maintained and run largely by prison inmates who do the blue collar work and we recruit top notch engineers and such for the white collar work. We drill at ANWR Alaska and all those other places that the enviro fanatics want us to leave alone. We employ many Americans, we keep US dollars in the US, we stop funding militant Islam, we become more independent, and we reduce our foreign trade deficits, and we send most convicted pedophiles to work at the isolated drilling stations in Alaska.

What say you?!

Brilliant
'We borrow from the nations we defend so that we may continue to defend them. To question this is an unpardonable heresy called "isolationism." '


Culturists Say No To Globalists
We need to reign in corporate citizens that are traitors to the country that birthed them. Sending our infrastructer to China is a bad idea. If this country goes, will theier CEOs be happy living in China?

All rights come from countries that can afford them and believe in them. We cannot make Iraq believe in rights. We cannot afford to try. We need to make sure our homefront has real liberty. That means opportunity. That means a solvent economy.

Whatever control of our country we give to Arabs and Chinese empowers those who disrespect Western culture. It makes our presidents go to their nations and fawn.

To protect democracy, rights, free speech and the separation of church and state, we need to put America first.

http://www.culturism.us

The Gathering Storm
I often think of Churchill's written history of the period before WWII, and see certain parallels today. The Gathering Storm is a title that exemplifies this situation. In his day, he saw the decline of the willingness of the British and their allies, including America, to see the onset of the final act of WWI, which became WWII - let alone to prevent what was, for quite some time, very preventable. In our day, we have, in a 30 year period, seen a systematic decline of our economy as we have gone from being a creditor nation to a debtor nation, which has derived from our determination to use debt to finance the present - while mortgaging our future to those who intend to win the future - while we slip into the past. And, we do nothing. Right now, we focus on the Presidential candidates and what they say. What we do not focus on is the Congressional Candidates and what they say. We can elect a President, but if we do not equally elect the appropriate congress - we know from our recent history that neither the GOP or the Democrats will deal with the issues we have. The GOP expanded entitlements recently, and now we have the Democrats wanting to have their say as well. And, neither will cut spending. If we elect a Republican who advocates more spending on defense, then that, in combination with the rising costs of entitlements, will cause our deficits to continue to rise. If we elect a Democrat who chooses instead to add to entitlements, but not defense, the results will be the same.

It is indeed a gathering storm.

We should be afraid, very afraid ...
I normally dismiss "gloom and doom" prophecies and try to stay optimistic, but I've begun to reach the frightening conclusions of Pat Buchanan. What America, through its elected officials, has been doing in recent decades is simply unsustainable. What's happened (happening) to G.M., Ford, Delta, California, New Jersey, etc. will happen (is happening) to the U.S. government. Folks, the bill DOES come due.

I'm one of those Ron Paul "kooks" who happens to think Paul is NOT a kook because he's been the only presidential candidate in recent memory to preach that the American "empire" cannot go on being police man for the world and giving every interest group every government cure they demand. Going back to "Constitutional" government and "first principles" IS the only prescription that will save us from this fast-approaching, inevitable and BIG crisis.

The other candidates are for the status quo, which is more of the same that got us into this mess. Their "cures" will only make the problem worse.

Maybe the Moody's story, the story of California's predictable crisis and Buchanan's brave column are hitting the public at the right time - in the b/g of a presidential election year. Maybe Americans will vote for economic reason as opposed to feel-good substanceless rhetoric.

This probably is the most important presidential election of our lifetimes. I'm more scared of what Buchanan writes about than Islamist radical terrorists wreaking any real damage inside our borders.

I'm voting for Ron Paul because his message has consistently warned of this crisis and his solutions - if folllowed - would avert them and give us a bright future.




Welcome to the new world.
No wonder Bush, the democrats and other North American Union types are all secretly working to replace the dollar with the "Amero".

Policies have been enacted to further cheapen the dollar.

The dollar is a relic of the past. Like national sovereignty.

Bush and the global corporatists are right.

Get with the program.


With all the blackballing
I pray, for America's sake, that Ron Paul will go third party. He is WISER than every other candidate on this most important issue. He is the ONLY one talking about it.

Save America, vote Ron Paul!

Holy crap Batman!!!!
Two articles in one day that reinforce Dr. Paul's platform.

Wait a minute, where are the paid staffers who call Dr. Paul supporters tin-foil-hatters?

Something just ain't right...

Perhaps they are figuring out that the "campaign promises" that we hear from the RINO's will, in the end, leave them with nothing.

You can have the fattest of 401's, 403b, and stock options, but if they ain't worth anything after a lifetime of worth because of irrational monetary policy then what exactly do you have?

Pat Buchanan: Day of Reckoning
Great interviews with Pat Buchanan on trade, immigration and the economy!

WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/pat-buchanan-day-o f-reckoning


One might think . . .
that the fiscal debacle that is called California might serve as a lesson to politicians and voters alike; that endless social spending and big government are dangerous.

But no.

The Presidential race seems to favor the candidate on either side that promises to "give" the most - to the most.

Right on the money
Both Dems and Reps are acting like irresponsible reprobates with our money. We got rid of a non-existent threat(Iraq) at the cost of a Trillion dollars and 3800 American lives and traded it for a real threat-owing China a Trillion dollars. China can and may invade Taiwan tommorow and we won't be able to say boo without them threatening to totally wreck our economy by putting our debt and their US Dollars on the world market. This is why Taiwan voted in a party that will negotiate with the Chinese for possible annexation. They know the US is hamstrung when it comes to them and figure if it's going to happen it may as well happen peacefully.

And the price of victory in Iraq-Having a Shia dominated Iraq that already has better ties with Iran than us. This has thrown the middle-east balance of power out of whack and will be the justification for us being over there for "100 years" as McCain says.

Wars and socialism-the two party's offerings to us.

Third Party please!!!


Continued
If it had been the reverse, that the host nations or the handlers had been in hoc to us, they would never have allowed such things as the USS Cole, the towers in Arabia or even 911 to happen.

One of my most serious reservations about Bush II is that he has been marching around the world like Teddy Roosevelt with a big stick, but America no longer has the pocket book to back that up. Our finances are going the way of Europe, slowly being drowned in socialist endeavors, social security, Medicare, medicaid, and other socialist programs. Our government has not truly had the discretionary income for any sort of foreign venture since the late 1950's, whether war or assistance, if the government really meant to meet all the obligations promised us.

Since Nixon, every new socialist utopia promise has put us ever further in debt in the long run. It doesn't matter what the present year balance was, if we weren't saving, we were loosing. Nixon's promise to adjust social security with inflation was one of the first steps of utterly irresponsible and utterly un-maintainable fiscal policy. Then he took us off the silver standard, etc and so on.

bot_feeder
Yes, correct, we have VISA'd and American Expressed ourselves into irrelevance. But we should have realized this sometime ago. during the Clinton era, terrorist attacked our interest with impunity. Why? This did not happen to us or the Soviet Union throughout the Cold War, why did it happen then? It started happening in the Reagan and Bush I years, but truly became common place in the Clinton years. Why? Because we where already in hoc to the host nations that these attacks occurred in or in hoc to their handlers. God Bless Reagan, but we have been slowly selling out this nation since his time in office or before. We have become much like the British Empire in 1938, or for the short-side gain.

This nation's "leaders" are like
The Horse Leech, Haemopis sanguisuga

Proverbs 30:
15 The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, four things say not, It is enough:

16 The grave; and the barren womb; the earth that is not filled with water; and the fire that saith not, It is enough.

And to add one more to Solomons list.
Rotten, sorry, no good American politicians who never say it is enough and cry give give give.
I am sick of this country and its "leaders".
Everyone who has supported globalism should be tried for treason, beginning with GW Bush.



America evil?
I think our government is the biggest sucker ever to grace the planet.

We roll over on every trade dispute. Our dollars and young men and women defend most of Europe and much of Asia.

The America-haters don't know how good they have it.

by the way:
got gold?

hey mommy

But then the ugly side of the Greenspan machine eventually rears its head.


Ashley wants a teddy bear but is stymied in her attempt to buy one.

"Mommy, mommy, it's no fair. I printed up 50 dollars to give to Jin Liu for that teddy bear he made that he's selling, but he wouldn't take my money."

"Ashley, if Jin won't take 50 dollars, try printing some more."

huh?

It is absurd for rating agencies to warn about possible downgrading of the US govt's bond rating.

The US does not have to pay its debts! It can pay them off with play money. Otherwise known as US dollars, which it can print up (or, technically speaking, its siamese twin the Fed can print them up)

That makes me think- what a cool kid's toy that would be. A play money printing machine. They could call it Doctor Greenspan's Green Machine.

I want a trademark on that one. I'm on the phone to Mattel tomorrow.


Hey boys and girls: It's Doctor Greenspan's Green Machine. Now you can print up money just like the adults do. No need to work, no need to save. Just a little ink and a little paper, and, presto. MONEY!

We should be allowed to opt out of
SSI and screw all these welfare wanting old people.
Ron Paul is the only one even talking about this issue. Both parties are more of the same, spend and tax.

A FAIR DEAL FOR ALL AMERICANS
Have you folks seen Gov Huckabee's speech to the Detroit Economic Club? It is very, very good.

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id= 1154

Likewise his FAIR DEAL FOR ALL AMERICANS is alredy generating a lot of attention. Check it out, Five Principles of a Mike Huckabee Stimulus Package:

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id= 1178
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