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Tuesday, August 14, 2007
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
GOP Race to Toughen and Tighten
by Pat Buchanan
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Mitt Romney won his anticipated victory in the Iowa Straw Poll, with 32 percent and 4,500 votes, but fell short of expectations. Ex-Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, with 18 percent, exceeded them, and is the man of the hour to the political press.

The results from Ames, and South Carolina's decision to move its primary to Jan. 19, are fraught with portent for the GOP and the party's hopes of holding the White House.

First, the turnout at Ames, with 14,000 voting, was modest, in comparison to 1999, when George Bush finished first with 7,500 votes out of 23,000 cast.

The diminished turnout suggests the GOP is not as hungry as it was when Bill Clinton was ending his second term, or as excited as it was about its candidates or prospects.

Second, the 18 percent showing by Huckabee and the 15 percent by Sen. Sam Brownback mean both will be in the race to January. And, as both are strong social conservatives competing for the pro-life and Christian vote, both will be jostling each other -- and both will be tearing down Mitt Romney's credentials as a social conservative.

That Huckabee came in a strong second and Brownback a close third, however, is not bad news for Mitt. It means both will be in the race until January, and neither can wholly unite pro-life and Christian voters against him. As they split the vote in Ames, they will likely split it in January, to Romney's benefit.

There is other good news for Romney in the returns from Ames. Because his victory was not overwhelming, because Huckabee made a strong showing, the Iowa race -- with its prospect of an upset -- becomes far more interesting to the national and world press.

Here is where the new calendar comes in.

As South Carolina has moved its primary to Jan. 19, New Hampshire will move up to Jan. 12 or before, and Iowa, which has said it will hold the caucuses in the new year, will thus have to hold them in the first week and perhaps the first few days of January.

This means the national and world press, a day after Christmas, will be heading for Iowa and camping out to cover the GOP race, as well as the Clinton-Obama-Edwards showdown that same day.

Especially if the GOP race appears close, the coverage of the candidates -- particularly Romney and Huckabee -- will be intense. Left out of that coverage will be any GOP candidate not competing in Iowa.

Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Fred Thompson each thus face a major dilemma and crucial decision. Given their pathetic showings at the straw poll, where their names were on the ballot but they did not speak, if they contest Iowa, they will have to spend time, energy and money even to be competitive. And they would risk a third- or fourth-place finish. But if they skip Iowa, they could face a media blackout for the 10 days between Christmas and the caucuses, while Romney and the rest in Iowa are all over the national news.

If all three wait in New Hampshire, all three could be in the dark until the news from Des Moines rolls over the country and propels the winner of the caucuses to the forefront in New Hampshire.

Moreover, South Carolina, by tightening the schedule and pushing Iowa and New Hampshire closer to New Year's Day, and crowding them closer together, increases the momentum value of an Iowa victory.

Perhaps the best hope McCain, Thompson and Giuliani have of stopping Romney is to have Huckabee or Brownback defeat him in Iowa. And the surest way to do that would be for Brownback or Huckabee to drop out and stop splitting the social conservative vote.

But given the strong performance of both, that appears unlikely.

Bottom line: The front-runners, Thompson and Giuliani, and McCain have left their destiny in other hands. If none of them is going to contest Iowa, and try to take Romney down there, all have a vital interest in helping Huckabee or Brownback tarnish a Romney victory with a strong finish, or defeat him in Iowa, which might finish him. For today it does not look like any of the three -- Thompson, Giuliani or McCain, who ran seventh, eighth and 10th -- can do it themselves.

For the front-runners, this would be the best of all possible worlds. For even if Brownback or Huckabee emerged with the moral victory in Iowa, neither has the resources for a national campaign, though the checks would pour in, in the event of an Iowa victory.

All of which raises an interesting question.

Did Romney hold down the score at Ames to make the race more exciting, to give a victory there in January greater drama, perhaps to lure Giuliani or Thompson or McCain or Newt Gingrich back into the state, where in that country of the Sioux, he could scalp them all?

The Republican race has suddenly gotten more interesting. The Iowa Straw Poll has a way of doing that.

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I don't know, Pat...
"Fraught with portent"????

....

"Did Romney hold down the score at Ames to make the race more exciting, to give a victory there in January greater drama, perhaps to lure Giuliani or Thompson or McCain or Newt Gingrich back into the state, where in that country of the Sioux, he could scalp them all?"

That was it. Mitt Romney has superpowers that allow him to calibrate straw poll outcomes, so as to increase drama in later poll-matches -- for convoluted reasons that only you can divine.

You can probably guess what I think is the only thing around here that's "fraught." With portent, or anything else. And it's not the predictable outcome of the straw poll, which everyone saw coming from miles away, and which means little to nothing.

It is too bad....
that all of the primaries are moving to earlier dates. Personally, I would like to see the primaries start no sooner than May. That would give three months for the primaries and the conventions could still happen beginning in August.

Moving the primaries to an earlier date shows a desire for political reporting from MSM and it also shouts the desire to replace the sitting president. It will not remove him from office any earlier but it really makes him a lame duck.

Politics as sport is where we are. A play by play with color commentators calling the latest maneuver and then pundents expounding on the effectiveness of the maneuver. Our country is a joke! But I am not laughing. I am crying!

Small writes
Ron Paul. HAHAHAHAHAHA. That's what his showing in Iowa amounted to. LAST!LAST
!LAST!
Please quit wasting space on TH to push this goofy loser, RON PAUL.

??????
This can't be right. The MSM (and they are never wrong - ask Dan Rather) has been sayign for over a year that the Republican nominee would be Rudy Giuliani or John McCain. Or did someone finally ask the voters what they want?

the next president....
will have to deal with the following...

http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html


Except that- FDT was not in the race...
... at straw poll time. Iowans WILL support FDT when he gets in, in plenty'o time for the caucus!

FDT the next POTUS! Yeah Baby!

i like buchanan

Absolutely amazing
Of all the candidates, Huckabee was my first choice, but I put my support behind Fred Thompson because he was the person closest to my views that I thought could win.

Hopefully Huckabee though can pick up some momentum. Perhaps someone would be good enough to send Sam Brownback a letter requesting he drop out so that Huckabee can pick up his votes. Then if Fred Thompson were to throw his support behind Mike Huckabee, or vice versa, that would be a match made in heaven. Get Romney in the mix somewhere there as well. Three splendid choices.

Paleo Pat
Sounds more and more like one of Ron Paul's ALCOAettes.

Is Iowa Important
Really how important is Iowa. Rudy and Fred can win in other states and still get the nomination. I personally think all this stuff about momentum is crap. Romney will waste all his time and energy in Iowa and McCain (already sunk) will do the same with what little he has left in New Hampshire.

Rudy will spend his time in California, New York, New Jersey, Colorado, Nevada, Florida, South Carolina, and others. Meanwhile Fred if he ever declares will tour the south and west.

Regardless of who the party nominates I'll go vote, Democrats are too dangerous to let back into power. Of course it is still very early.

GOP "front runners"
as far as I am concerned, Guiliani, Thompson, and McCain not only did themselves a great disservice in opting out at Ames, but did the GOP no great service either. Their absences supressed the total turnout which gave the MSM, and some others, a negative topic of discussion to beat the GOP, the party as a whole, over the head.
I'm tired already of conparisons to the Bush 2000 campaign. 14,000 GOPers voted in Ames in 2007...so what? the real question is how many would have attended and voted had all the GOP "front runners" participated. the 2007 turnout numbers, for many, are simply another excuse to proclaim GOP voter apathy, thus re-enforcing their Dem 2008 victory mantras.

Okay Pat
So, we have a few thousand Iowans that took part, about the size of the population of Colfax, Kellogg, and Grinnell combined (when school is in), and maybe throw Winterset (birthplace of the Duke) in there.

I think you're putting too much substance into this poll. I think Rasmussen polls more people than that.

Not that I have anything against Iowa, it just so happans that not that many Iowans were there to take part.

for Hockey Goon: What you wanted
Hockey Goon writes: "The MSM (and they are never wrong - ask Dan Rather) has been saying for over a year that the Republican nominee would be Rudy Giuliani or John McCain. Or did someone finally ask the voters what they want?"

Yes, CBS just did. And in their poll where the national GOP voters could pick from all the candidates during August 8-12, here are the results:

"....38 percent of Republican primary voters favor the former New York City mayor [Guiliani], a slight increase from last month. Senator-turned-actor Fred Thompson is next; he's favored by 18 percent of Republican primary voters, a seven-point drop from last month. Thompson has yet to officially announce his candidacy.

"The third choice, at 13 percent, is former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who improved five points from one month ago. He was followed by Arizona Sen. John McCain, who came in at 12 percent."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/13/opinion/polls/main3162457.shtml

And now that you've gotten the survey you asked for, I'm waiting for you to dismiss it as a biased product of the liberal MSM. :-)

And by the way, the MSM stopped claiming that McCain would be the GOP nominee around the time he committed himself to supporting Bush's disastrous immigration bill. Whether liberal or conservative as it suits them, most of these pundits and analysts saw what that was going to do to the McCain candidacy, even if he didn't himself.

PRESIDENT GIULIANI! I like the sound of that.

Warren Small
here you go again....the Bald Drag Queen???? This is ridiculous!!!! Can't you make your points without namecalling? To all the TH responders, let's keep the rhetoric on a higher plane. Attack the message, not the person.

As for Romney, he seems like a very decent person with a good family life, is a recognized leader, is a very successful entrepenure, believes in low taxes, less government, against illegal immigration, is for strict constructionist judges, is a moral example to the nation. I could go on but it all sounds good to me.

SAD GOP'ERS
dont be scared to vote democratic in 2008. it will be as good as it was in the 90's when no doubt all you deniers made a very good living due to a real expanding economy and not just for the 2/10 of 1% of you.

forget these hypocryte neo con republicans.

give it up, already!

loco
a moral example to the nation?!?!?!

romney TIED HIS DOG SEAMUS TO THE ROOF OF HIS CAR... AND DROVE FOR 12 HOURS!!!

and his sons aren't serving in iraq because they are sacrificing by working on their pops campaign!

so dillusional are gop-ers or just uninformed... little bit of both i think.

wishful thinking on Pat's part
The idea that the Iowa straw poll will significantly alter the media's focus is just wishful thinking on Pat Buchanan's part.

The media isn't going to drastically reduce coverage of all the perceived front runners (including Giuliani, Fred Thompson and even McCain), just because of this Iowa straw poll in which none of the front-runners except Romney even campaigned. The media knows where the action is this primary season, and in the long run it ain't with Huckabee/Brownback.

In fact, I suspect the media will focus on how long McCain can continue in the race.

For SteveL
"PRESIDENT GIULIANI! I like the sound of that."

Best keep praying the Donkeys nominate HRC, then. The loathing and revulsion felt by all conservatives for the "Iron Dingbat" (to use P.J. O'Rourke's phrase) MAY be enough to drive enough conservatives to the polls to pull the lever AGAINST her.

Otherwise, neither Barack the Magic Person of Color nor the Breck Girl generate enough "vote-against" feeling to bring conservatives to the polls for a candidate with no significant domestic policy differences from HRC.

As I have so many times before, I close by listing, first, all of the victories given to the GOP by those scary social conservatives in the last three decades:

POTUS 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004

Congress 1994-2006

And, in the space below, all of the victories supplied by "Country Club Republicans" (like SteveL):



Have a nice day.



Shoddy Research Buchanan
Pat, when you considered the turnout, did you bother look into what other events could possibly take participation away from the Straw Poll? (Seriously, who's the buffoon that decided to have the Straw Poll the same weekend as the start of the Iowa State Fair?)

Re: Brownback's 'strong' performance, did you consider the money and organization Brownback threw at IA to turn out to be second fiddle to Huckabee?

Huckabee's proof
If you want evidence that the Mike Huckabee is the real deal when it comes to managing money - (i.e. our tax dollars) - look at what he was able to do with so few dollars in Iowa!

I liked his line "I don't want to buy you....I can't even RENT you"!

Give the man his due. I've heard voters complain about not having a real choice.

Here he is! Take a look at his stand on the issues. Don't just throw in the towel, rationalize your vote away and settle for the least objectionable candidate..

Mike Huckabee is your man!

GOP Race
Everybody better wake up and realize that the only hope that we have as a Republic is Tom Tancredo. Everyone else in the race pales in comparison. I hope the Dems nominate Hillary. She is just too easy to beat because she has so much excess baggage, it'll be a Turkey shoot.

Semper Fi,

WMR

Too nervous for the service
Duncan Hunter served America as a combat veteran. So did John McCain. Who else has, among the GOP hopefuls. I would rather have a combat veteran in the White House than one who downplays honorable service to the nation. To equate 'helping me get elected' to voluntarily putting one's self in harm's way demeans both our military and his offspring. Self-centered, self-serving and vapid candidates abound. We don't need them as our servants.

Ron Paul IS the Only True Conservative!
The Iowa Straw Poll only turned out 14,000 voters, hardly representative of how Iowa voters will vote on their Primary in January.

All of you Ron Paul haters can stop acting like the ignorant fool. His popularity is growing and his next to last place in the Straw Poll means nothing.

His beliefs are very similar to the way Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater spoke (And for you neo-cons out there, would you characterize Reagan as a "cut & runner" for leaving Lebanon? Or Goldwater for wanting to get out of Vietnam? By today's standards, that's be what you'd be calling them). As for me being a conservative Goldwater-Reagan Republican is concerned, Ron Paul is the only true conservative running for the Presidency today, the rest of you just haven't seen, or don't want to see, what a real conservative is like.

All of you Mitt Romney, Rudy Guiliani, Fred Thompson, Dick Cheney, George Bush-loving RINO's need to grow a brain and get educated.

Ron Paul is the only true Republican who can save our Republic, and as well, it is up to us to get this great American Patriot into the White House, where he would hopefully influence and inspire other like-minded Constitutionalists to serve in the U.S. Congress and get our nation back on track.

SAVE THE REPUBLIC, VOTE RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Anthony Thomas & Zeb...
A.T.: are you really falling for the MSM/liberals claim that Mitt Romney is a flip flopper??? If so, I'm very shocked at my fellow GOP'ers. While I plan on voting for whichever conservative candidate wins the nomination, I would never take the bait that Romney is a flip flopper/RINO/liberal...come on guys! Look into the facts and don't just spew things out that you hear in the media...the liberals hate Romney.

Zeb: Romney is a good man who is a patriot. While he apologized for his commentary on his sons serving the country by helping him get elected, it's important to know that one does not have to serve in the military to be a Patriot. I have not, but I would die for this country in a heart beat...unlike most liberals who hate what our country stands for. Romney is the same. The man speaks in front of audiences for hours a day 7 days a week...give him a break. At least he didn't call the war on terrorism a "bumper sticker". He's not self serving, Romney has a great record and would be a great presidential candidate.

He has great experience and shares most values that I'm sure you do.

But Pat, you left out....
how Huckabee spent 1/3rd of what Brownback spent, and less than 1/10th of what Romney spent and placed second!

Also Brownback is running a semi-dirty campaign. He is attacking people of his own party about who was pro-life first, and who is more the religious candidate.

Brownback is my state Senator, and I'm not proud to say it. He comes across as a typical political slime ball who will do what ever he has to for a vote.

Example; When the immigration reform bill was pending he skipped the first vote, voted for the bill in the second vote (right after Bush made an appearance at a fund raiser here in Wichita), then logged a vote for the bill in the third vote till just a few minutes before voting was to end when he rushed in and changed from Yea to Nay. He later said the reason for the change was to show that he felt immigration reform was important, but that this bill was not the best solution.

So he was for it before he was against it.

If only Romney weren't as appealing...
--
...as the proverbial bucketful of warm spit - and if only the Republican quorum gathered in Ames weren't about as skewed out of statistical validity as was the Peoples Temple congregation brought to Guyana by the Rev. Jim Jones - that wonderful "straw poll" might mean something.

As things stand, the suggestion that we might get a *PRESIDENT* Romney out of this prolonged process of turning the Republicrat manure pile over and over until the least offensive RINO plops out on the ground (stinking and decomposing) reminds me entirely too much of the wonderful election of 1996, for which the Republicrat muckety-mucks grunted and strained and shoved out Bob Dole (R, Archer Daniels Midland), a candidate who made even Waco Willie look presidential by comparison.

--
"Democracy is that system of government under which the people, having 60,000,000 native-born adult whites to choose from, including thousands who are handsome and many who are wise, pick out a Coolidge to be head of state. It is as if a hungry man, set before a banquet prepared by master cooks and covering a table an acre in area, should turn his back upon the feast and stay his stomach by catching and eating flies."

..==H.L. Mencken

Huckabee comes in second?!?
The Right Reverend Mike Huckabee may have shed 100 pounds, but he has not shed his bagage. While playing the religious voters of Iowa like a fiddle, no one remembered his actions to one particular Christian who was jailed to cover up the Dixie Mafia crimes in Bill Clinton's Arkansas.

How soon they forget Sharlene Wilson, the brave woman who was railroaded into prison for the crime of testifying before a grand jury against Bill Clinton. As governor of Arkansas, Reverend Huckabee made damn sure that she stayed locked up while Clinton sat in the White House -- even after scores of Christians begged for her release!

Of course, Reverend Huckabee worked overtime to make sure that a murderer WAS set free so he could go on to rape and murder some more, but not in Arkansas where his residence had been banned as a condition of his parole. Great job! Kinda reminds us all of the current faux-Christian stinking up our White House who refuses to release our railroaded border patrol agents, but steps right in to commute the sentence of a crony.

We have had too many members of the Dixie Mafia running our country already -- Bush, Clinton, Bush -- we do not need another one running against the Queen of the Dixie Mafia in 2008. But, then again, if you loved Bill Clinton, you might just love the Reverend Mike Huckabee, too.

http://users.rcn.com/virtual.nai/sot/arkncide.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14385

http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=154e1aad-fd18-4efd-8d80-b5dab8559419

How Many Italians in Iowa?

.....Pat I know you are a political junkie but I think you are grabbing at straws in this Iowa poll (pun intended) ....

.....Giuliani knows that there are no Italians in Iowa and he looks foolish in bib overalls so why bother ....

.....Giuliani's strength is in the Northeast where States like N.Y., Penna., N.J., Mass., all have Italian populations of greater than 10% ...throw in the popularity of the Sopranos and the Godfather series and Giuliani looks like a shoo-in ...

.....Tell me Pat ...what true paisan would vote for Hillary or Obama over Giulani? .....COLOSSUS

808 patriot
Your guy is not a conservative - he's a liberatian.

He will not protect us from terror, he thinks abortion is a-okay, he is an isolationist in foreign affairs and trade.

Just thought you might like to know.

baseballdoc

Do you really have to come in and make so much sense.??. Shameful..

Cognizant words... Giuliani looks like a shoo-in ...



Tasha Tchim.....

The outstanding P.I. on TH..

Good to see you in here.....


LOLOLLOL
Absolutely absurd guess Pat, but hilarious non the less.

Double posting


I didn't double post..What's up TH.....

RON PAUL VICTORY!
**RON PAUL did not opt out of Iowa!
**RON PAUL spent only two (2) days in Iowa because he was in Washington D.C. attending to the peoples business rather than living in Iowa and buy off peoples votes like Romney!
**Ron Paul did not attempt to buy Iowa votes like Mitt Romney did by spending millions of dollars on a mere 14,000 votes. This says something about Ron Paul. He is Conservative when it comes to spending money, he does not spend money needlessly or lavishly! Not bad!
**Ron Paul still has about three (3) million dollars in campaign contributions...more than John McCain. He spent hardly any money in Iowa.
**Ron Paul came in ahead of Fred Thompson in Iowa!You probably won't hear about it though in the liberal MSM.
**Ron Paul won in the exit Polling...as they refused to hand count disputed votes by one of the diebold voting machines that mysteriously went down.
**This is only the begining!
**Ron Paul clearly won the Iowa debates!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfdB5OzlyQ



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbXQ_PnUbq8



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N6NstE0_8Q




If the Reps. and cons. in their
eternal search for pol. purity do not nominate Rudy Giuliani, they won't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning 2008.

The Dems. will run Clinton/Obama and minimally the campaign theme will be that anyone who doesn't vote for that ticket is a bigot, racist, sexist, neanderthal, ogre, certifiable misanthrope. And child molester, as Clinton/Obama will smear everything with peanut butter and jelly for the children every time they pose for pix or open their mouths.

Giuliani is the only candidate in an executive position when the US was attacked by foreign Islamic terrorists. He governed NYC for two terms when liberal expertts were calling the city ungovernable. He lowered taxes, raised revenue, increased business investment, restored the streets and parks to the average citizen, brought tourism back, did not cave to the powerful public unions, withstood years of hostile press that called him everything from "without a soul" and "cold" (he moved street people into shelters and out of Port Authority and swarming on 8th Ave. and 42nd St.) to "Hitler" (he wouldn't let the NYTimes ed. bd. dictate city policy).

He polls well. He attracks Dem. and ind. voters. I know Dems. who want to vote for Rudy, and I am an NEA member surrounded by liberal-whacko leftwing maniacs. I barely know who Brownback is. I'm sure my neighbors have less of an idea. Ron Paul has not led anything. Thompson is not Reagan: Reagan was pres. of his sr. class, pres. of his frat., pres. of the Screen Actors Guild, and a 2-term CA governor before he became pres. of the US. Thompson is an actor, but pol. merely an ex-senator.


Get a grip and promote someone who can actually lead the country and has a record to support his ideas.


Giuliani
Baseballdoc: How racist of you! Not enough Italians in Iowa to make it worth Rudy's time? How absurd! Where do you think Tancredo's family came from, Ireland?

Renny: We need Rudy like we need another four years of Bush! You forget that Rudy has been pushing for illegal alien amnesties since 1981. He is pro-illegal, pro-welfare for illegals and would have protected all of the 9/11 terrorists in his sanctuary city from the Feds identifying and deporting them before they did their dirty deed. Brilliant!

Yes, we really want another lawless leader in the White House who routinely violates his oath of office. Have you forgotten that Rudy fought the law and the law won? But, not to be deterred by the will of the people, lawless Rudy thumbed his nose at the law and the US Supreme Court in order to give unlawful tax-payer funded benefits to illegal alien invaders. Whata guy!

Rudy will not win the primaries in the heartland of the country. He will not win in the mega-state primary in California, either. We have had enough of RINO Republicans to vote for another faux Republican like Rudy, Arnold has seen to that! And, if you think that Rudy can run on his 9/11 record, there is a bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you for a song. I can already see the negative ads coming from the FDNY "swift-boating" the turkey. Stick a fork in him, he is done!
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