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Friday, March 23, 2007
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Rogue Congress
by Pat Buchanan
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If the Senate and House judiciary committees issue subpoenas for Karl Rove and other White House aides to testify to their roles in the firing of the eight U.S. attorneys, President Bush should defy the subpoenas. He should accept the contempt citations and fight it all the way to the Supreme Court.

Indeed, he has a duty to do so. For Bush is today the custodian of an office that is the subject of assault by a partisan and hostile Congress.

This is not about the incompetence of the Justice Department of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales or about any White House role in the firing of the eight -- whom President Bush had every right to fire.

This is about preserving and protecting the integrity of the institution of the presidency. It is about the right of America's head of state and head of government to receive the candid counsel of his most trusted advisers.

If White House assistants as close to a president as Karl Rove is to George W. Bush can be ordered before congressional partisans, to be interrogated by congressional committees on what he may have told the president on controversial matters, the presidency itself will be damaged and weakened.

What is the matter with so many journalists that they cannot see or understand the principle at stake? Is their contempt for Bush so great they cannot see the need for executive privilege? Indeed, the hypocrisy on the part of some in the press is so manifest as to make them look absurdly partisan.

We just passed through a criminal investigation by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of the alleged outing of a CIA agent, an investigation the press demanded. Yet journalists were outraged that Judith Miller of The New York Times and Matt Cooper of Time were subpoenaed and forced to testify to a U.S. grand jury in that criminal investigation. To defend reporter's privilege, Miller spent months in jail, rather than testify to what a single White House aide told her.

Can journalists credibly argue for an absolute shield law that protects their right never to have to reveal -- even before a federal grand jury that is investigating potential crimes against national security -- what Karl Rove told them, but President Bush has no right at all to protect what Rove told him from a partisan congressional committee?

Congress, too, is being manifestly hypocritical.

When $90,000 was discovered in the freezer of Rep. William Jefferson, the Justice Department went to a federal judge for a subpoena, so the FBI could enter Jefferson's office, where agents removed files related to a corruption investigation. Yet members of Congress were outraged at this executive intrusion in their sacrosanct domain.

No matter that Jefferson was under criminal investigation, no matter that the subpoena was validly issued by a U.S. judge, Capitol Hill was said to be a sanctuary into which no law enforcement agent of the executive branch had a right to intrude.

Journalists make the point that Nixon aides, among them this writer, testified under oath in televised hearings before the Watergate Committee, that President Nixon was ordered by the Supreme Court to turn over tapes of his most confidential Oval Office conversations.

But those tapes were ordered turned over to an independent special prosecutor, whose office had been set up to investigate the White House and prosecute former White House aides. The executive branch was investigating the executive branch.

As for the Senate Watergate Committee, it was a special committee with which President Nixon, after the White House aides involved in the scandal had been removed, had agreed to cooperate. The same was true of President Reagan in the Iran-Contra affair.

In this matter of the eight U.S. attorneys, what do we know? That they were fired by the president at whose pleasure they served. That there is no hard evidence any was fired to abort a criminal investigation. That some were incompetent. That others, like Carol Lam of San Diego, had their own agenda and were not dealing resolutely, as Justice was demanding, with the illegal immigration scandal.

Congress has many powers, among them the right to command the presence and public testimony of every executive branch officer in the Cabinet departments. But Congress has no right, in its oversight function, to command the testimony of a president's closest aides as to what they told the president in confidence, any more than it has a right to the testimony of Supreme Court clerks as to what they told the chief justice.

If Congress presses ahead with these subpoenas, the president should use every weapon in his arsenal to repel this act of aggression by a rogue Congress against the Office of the President of the United States.

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Mr. Buchanan
Finally a sensible article.

Peppermint
I agree, Buchanan is right on with this one! Congress is already trying to act as the President.

By the way Pep, don't know if you saw my answer to your question on Ann Coulters column. This site is still unstable and and sometimes posts get lost.

Merry_go_boy
I don't know for sure. But judging from my experience as a programmer. I would say that the techs are having a lot of trouble in maintaining and /or changing parts of the site. It is acting as though they are placing way to much data on a single page with multiple internal links to other pages and animated adds etc. This usually results in broken links and taking way to much time to load a page. All of this can result in erratic behavior and "Time Outs" where you get "Page cannot be found." This can cause the entire Web Site design to become corrupted and erratic.
But as I said, this is only my opinion.

Buchanan's bilge
Pat needs to be careful when using the word "hypocrisy" in this matter. Tom Coburn said yesterday that his Senate Judiciary commitee shouldn't let "politics trump good policy" and suggested that the ever widening investigation of Attorneygate and the cover-up was like "Anna Nicole Smith." There were a lot of better things to do, he said, such as dealing with the health insurance crisis. But Dr. Coburn is the guy who whined endlessly and lauded the passage of the decorticated Teri Schiavo legislation.

Give us a break.

Arrogant Congress
Bush must absolutely refuse to respond in any way to these arrogant sob's that think Congress is superior to the Executive Branch of our government. The branches of our government are CO-EQUAL its the very basis of our constitutional organization. President Bush would not be the first POTUS to defy another branch of the Federal governemnt. Andrew Jackson's reputed response the the Supreme Courts decision that the Indians could be forced off their land by the government "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it! He flat refused to enforce the law.

Arrogant Congress - correction
The Supreme Court said the government could NOT force the Indians off their land.

Sorry

Diogenes
Health insurance crisis? There is not one and there will not be one, if we can keep the Federal government out of the Health Care Insurance business. Those 535 Congressmen have no capability to plan, implement, or manage any program they appropriate and allocate money to. Congressmen are a cross between a bag of money and a hot air balloon. Congress can open its mouth and release hot air or open the coffers and spend money ,otherwise, Congress is just a passenger riding in the gondola of special interests.

George Bush defy Congress?
...Pat must be joking.

George Bush is not a strong president.In his first term he acted a lot like Reagan.But in his second term he morphed into his father,a one term president.W is one of the weakest politicians I have ever seen in the White House.I suspect he won his races due to the poor quality of his competition rather than the political skills of himself.

He has no sense of the "bully pulpit".But I don't know if that is because he follows advice from Karl Rove or Harriet Meyers or if he ignores their advice.But the bottom line is:He is a lousy politician.

Why make a stink?
Clinton fired all 95 US attorneys when he took office. We're all 95 so carefully scrutinized before they were let go? Doubtful. He wanted his people to represent his ideals. There was not much fuss, despite how huge those numbers were. Only a blanket statement was made by Reno stating, and I'm paraphrasing, that they simply wanted new people in those positions that support the President.

Bush fired only 8. He didn't do it within his 1st, 2nd or 3rd, etc etc year. It wasn't hasty. It was deliberate and thought out. Lydia made interesting points as to why he may have chosen those few, however it's within his right, whether those allegations are true or not.

95 vs 8. I say just let it be.

Lydia
Enough! They serve at the pleasure of El Presidente and he was displeased, end of story. The real story is the MSMs duplicity in making every little blip into a major scandal in order to benefit Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid. These attorneys seem to have forgotten who gave them their jobs. They acted against the wishes of those who put them in power. They know what the game is since all of them are politicians as well. I do have to say that, for a change, I agree totally with Mr. Buchanan. When he is not touting "Fortress America" or bashing Israel, he writes pretty convincingly.

CVN65
Exactly.

Dave Stone wrote
I (sadly) fear you might be right. But there is a way to counter it, perhaps even stop it from happening. Email the President and let him know he should not give in on this issue. Then email Ms Pelosi and tell her to stop this trivel show and get back to business and then email your Representatives and Senator and ask them to stand up and put a stop to it.

We are a government of the People, by the People and for the People - it is obvious that our ELECTED Representatives are out of control and the media is printing only what they want - so we must stand up and MAKE our beliefs, ideas and position known.

Then maybe some of this lousy, partisan and corrupt government will come back under the control of the People who should be in control - Voting American Citizens.

Lydia...
And I suppose that Slick Willy's firing of all but one of the District Attorneys when he took office, including the attorney working to indict Democrap Senator Dan Rostankowski on literally hundreds of mail fraud charges, in an attempt to derail that investigation (fortunately it didn't and DR went to prison for about 5 years, and then Willy pardoned him).

When the firings occured, in a blatantly political statement by his little harpie stooge, Janet Reno, the AG said that they wanted attorneys who would be supportive of the president.

I guess that is ok in your mind, eh?

What a hypocrite....

The Good Pat Buchanan
This is a good piece by the good Pat Buchanan. When he has written lately on such subjects as supporting General Pace and resisting what is a rogue Congress, Pat Buchanan has written well considered pieces. My respectfully made suggestion to Pat Buchanan would be to stay on such subjects and give foreign policy a rest.

It's clear that
If congress wanted facts, they would agree to the closed session President Bush has offered. Upon finding something prosecutable, they could proceed with public prosecution.
Why not agree to that? Because they know there's nothing there! They don't want to be robbed of the opportunity to grandstand and publicly grill members of President Bush's staff.
And because they wouldn't be allowed to comment publicly on job performance (I doubt that's lawful), they'd wind up looking evasive.
Democrats again are counting on the apathy, the ADD, and perhaps the ignorance of the public.

Merry_go_boy and
Peppermint, I see all five of the first posts to this column are missing. (ours) Perhaps TH didn't like my answer to your question Merry_go_boy, about what's wrong with this site. :-)

Ha!
Now I see the posts are back! The site is becoming increasingly unstable. A pain in the butt to navigate.

Phil Byler
Why is that Phil? Because you don't like someone blowing the whistle on this administration's neocon-devised agenda for nation-building? Too bad.

What's Good for Clinton is Good for Bush
Over 50 times Clinton administration officials gave congressional testimony under oath. His chief of staff gave testimony under oath regarding an investigation of the Clinton Christmas Card list.

As usual, Mr. Buchanan goes and finds the facts the align with his absurd world view.

Nam:
You hit the nail nearly squarely on the head, although I would say Bush started to act like Reagan until 9/11.


He is a weak politician, and did certainly win twice because of a lack of a suitable alternative. Once Kerry got the nomination in 2004, Bush and company slept well.


If Bush had a sack, and a better grip of the electorate, he would also fire Johnny Sutton and pardon his two most famous victims.

A good one Pat.
I doubt Bush will hit back.
Democrats have been immune from ethics charges for so long that most of them are vulnerable if Bush had the courage to swing back.

Many Democrats openly admit to being members of an organization committed to the eradication of our Constitution and personal liberties.
Bush could indict the whole kaboodle!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=447011

Pat, thing is we know you know more.
Once more.
The Bush's and the National Republican Committee own more than one bus.

One is now driven by the dumb Democrats and they run down the Atty. Gen. Gonzales as the finger puppets of the Adm. .
The real deal is as you know Pat,is the screw up by Gonzales and Sutton and the DHS etal of getting caught doing the fake, fraud, lie filled trial of Border Patrol Officers Ramos and Compean.

The thing that they try to hide is the Mexican Goverments role in the trial.
The moring it all started was the tip off of it all that now comes undone. The Border Patrol Officers saw the movement of the Mexican Army to the south side of the Rio Grande, and they knew this ment the Mexican Army was there as usual to guard a drug run, so they see this life long drug runner in a clear drug van, give chase he runs back to the border, they do shoot at him unknown by them and the other 7 Border Patorl Officer there at the time, includeing two supervisors who did take reports of the shooting and told Ramos and Compean that was all that was required at the time. Then little todie Johnny Sutton, the judge (life long friend of the Bush's) the DHS get to do the dirty work at the demand of the Mexican Goverment who get calls from the drug lords. The drug runner gets not one but two immunity's from Sutton, they lie at trial, they falsely convict and now both these men are in the 90th days in total lock down in Federal Prision's. More knew of this, Karl Rove knew for sure, the State Dept. must know as the messages came from the Mexican State Dept. so who is next under the other bush now warming up in the White House garage, most likely Karl Rove, he will get the run down or be asked to walk the plank, his choice.
In any case all misdirection now, to cover up evil just like always.

now
Only because TownHall will not.
President Bush's support of the Am-nasty, and the congress getting into the "coyote" buss. "$2000" each for safe passage is a real bad thing aka "evil money cult work" its bad,bad, bad.

now try it yourself TownHall courage will not make your fingers fall off

Warrior
Off subject but: Getting the Feds out of healthcare insurance would make it monumentally more affordable! Congress has no legitimate authority to involve themselves in it in the first place. Neither did they have any right to bring in baseball players to discuss steroid use in MLB.

How any of them could even imagine that is their job speaks volumns about the power they PERCEIVE they have. I must agree with PB on this one. We have a rogue congress that passes on it's rogue nature to each successive congress.

I remember a column in which (I believe it was Walter Williams) it was stated that congress needed to identify where in the constitution they had the power to enact the law they proposed. Too much to ask for now? Unreasonable? Anyone who thinks so needs to hit the bricks.






Adendum
With the print of my boot on their sorry backsides!@

Lydia
is obviously a frigging idiot

What is happening to our government?
I am quite disgruntled about what our Congress is doing. What are they trying to do, take our government apart in the name of the Democratic Party? Our rogue congress thinks that because they are a Democrat majority that they can make the same mistakes the Republicans made when they were the majority in terms of arrogance.

At this point, I have little respect for members of congress. As a group, they are a disappointment to the political process. It appears to me that the entire process is erroding away, and will continue to errod away until the United States government falls from internal strife. Does this sound like any other government power that has fallen in the past like maybe the Roman Empire? Anyone, who likely can do something about it, is likely to lose their life like JFK or have their life threatened like Ronald Reagan. Whose next to become a victim of government corruption?

The only way I can see to get beyond this is to build a vision together as a nation, a vision that everyone can buy into, a vision that will prevail among both parties, a vision that is so powerful that it prevails all who represent the people.

Anyone have any ideas where we can get such a vision?


Nov 2006
Sorry but all I hear is the sound of a baby crying, waaaaa waaaaa waaaaa. Whining and crying.

The Executive branch is a BRANCH, one BRANCH of three not an autonomous all powerful superior branch that trumps all others. In the history of the American Presidents, political scientist and historians have recognized the DANGER of an overly strong Executive (President).

Manipulation of the Judicial branch for political reasons is a NO NO. Sure pick your people, but stay out of tampering with prosecution. GOP politicians calling about indictments and private files is a NO NO. It looks like that is what they did and lied about it. The emails, the good evaluations, changing stories, fired for cause than no cause, denials, sacrificial lamb firing all smell like brown stuff. If they did nothing wrong fine, lets find out.

Even if they are innocent they are guilty of being idiots on the way they handled the whole things. I can even handle the firings for political reasons, but GOSH DARN THEY ARE STUPID with the paper trail the left.

Clearly the Neo-Con doctrine is executive rights & privilege above all else. Clearly with the pattern of secrecy and duplicities (lying) the Executive (Bush and company) feel they have no reason or obligation to Congress, the Senate, the people or that thing called the Constitution.

If the 8 attorneys are all fired for cause or no cause, who knows they have changed their STORY three times, lets get it out in the open.

Second how can it be confidential executive privilege if they DID NOT CONSULT WITH THE President, which is one of the many stories. One thing the average person knows is the Executive is Lying AGAIN!!!! And may be for no reason? They keep changing their story, why?

Frankly I think Bush and his BRAIN, Rove are working this for MAX political advantage, which is all they do. Party before what is best for the Nation.

It also takes the attention off Iraq and pushes the idea the Democrats are doing something wrong or political and hurting the President of partisan reasons. That is RICH and pure BULL. Sure there is some politics, but rightly so.

There has been ZERO congressional oversight in the last +6 years and it is about time the President answer for all his administrations actions.

I thank God for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Bush is NOT KING and the Congress has EVERY RIGHT and moral OBLIGATION to find out why Gonzalez lied.

Clearly Bush puts his party loyalty and party nepotism first in hiring people before ability and competence. Rumsfeld, Cheney, Brownie you are doing a heck of a job, Gonzalez and Harriet Miers are examples of political cronyism. They all suck and are marginal. Cheney does not give two craps and says so. When asked questions he smirks and laughs, I'm not running for office, which means up yours. What a Dick.

THIS IS WHY WE ARE IN A MESS, ALL THE PRESIDENTS ENABLERS. Did you know that Lincoln put his three biggest political rivals in his cabinet? Clinton brought in people from the Republican side. Bush? What do you think.

When you are elected, you have swore to uphold the Constitutional for all people, not just you party, political (money) contributors and the people that voted for you.

Plays and still does plays extreme partisan politics and hires only republicans. When Iraq was first occupied and they needed experts to rebuild, they sent 20 something fresh out of college kids, who never held a passport to go. Why? They worked at republican think tanks and republican organizations. Brilliant.

Bush will be a case study of how NOT to run a Presidentancy. And guess what? He is ALL Republican all GOP all the time. OWN IT, ACCEPT IT and DEAL WITH IT. Stop with the old political game of blaming the other side. Leadership means taking responsibility, not stonewalling, cover ups, excuses and blaming others. Sad pathetic.

I am glad the Dems have found some balls and they need to ignore the GOP name calling, whining and crying: waaaaa waaaaa waaaaa waaaaaa. Darn babies, shut up. Lets get the truth out for a change. Stop with the hiding. WHY? No reason, just being dickish and playing politics.

Last, Nov 2006, GOP LOST, get over it.

Congress Playing McCarthy for the left
It was bad when Senator Joseph McCarthy went on his non stop investigation of Communist sympathizers, and America was outraged, but now the left Democrats want to conduct the same endles subpoenas against our President for doing what was his total right to do.
Did not President Clinton fire almost all of the Prosecuting attys. when he took office?
Yes he did.
Yet when our current Administration takes eight of them out, all Congress has a hissy fit.
Buchanan is right again, as usual.
It is time to clip the wings of that pink chicken Nancy Pelosi.
Congress should stay on task, which for this Democrat controlled session might well be a long vacation to their home states for a bit of rest and relaxation.
If we lose the last vestiges of Monarchy, ie the Executive Branch and its autonomy, we will descend into the mad tyranny of the masses such as took place in 1789 over in France.
I'm sure that many Democrats would welcome such an exercise in 'direct democracy' spell Mob Rule.

JetPilot
Exactly what crime did the WH commit that allows them to supeona without cause any document or conversation ever made in the WH? The Senate has no jurisdiction, none, nada.

Without a formal declaration of impeachment for feloneous actions, the Senate Judiciary Committe has no constitutional right to demand emails, documents, or phone conversations from any White House member. And, in the event of impeachment, it is the House which investigates, not the Senate.

Improprierties, lapses of judgement, or whatever are not crimes. The personnel matters of the DOJ just barely, and I stress barely come under Congressional oversight, and then they better have a clear, explicit, legal reason. Not once has the Judiciary Committee named any specific laws that were broken. When it comes down to it, the Senate cannot control who gets hired or fired when it comes to political appointments in the DOJ. The only rules governing that are in the form of criminal investigations.

The inner workings of the WH are not the same as the DOJ. The Senate is not an oligarchy. The seperations of powers are clear.

In less than 2 months, the Dems have played all of thier cards. It has now become abundantly clear what the Democrats intentions are now that they have -for the time being- the majority of Congress. A wise Democrat once warned them back in December that their majority was not voted in in order to impeach the President or surrender in Iraq. If I remember correctly, no Democrat had impeachment or surrender on thier 2006 agenda.

However, Since Jan 2007 here's what the Dems have accomplished:


Proposed no less than 4 Congressional resolutions to surrender (or cut and run) from Iraq

Are forcing a Constitutional crisis over the firings of 8 appointed US Attornies

Passed a pork ridden appropriations bill that was soaked with ear-marks (something Pelosi and Reid promised they would do away with during thier first 100 hours).

Have launched 160 investigations in both houses of Congress into every aspect of the Bush WH.

Proposed a Kyoto redux, and have made ALBORE its poster child

Put forth a Left of Center Presidential candidate (Hillary), as well as a Far Left Neo-Marxist (O'Bama)

2008 has the makings of a bloodbath for the Democrats. The face of the Dems is marxism, investigations, supeonas, higher taxes, surrender, and ALGORE.

MyOpine
Check your link. It doesn't work.

What Buchanan and others fail to mention
is that at its' heart, this is about WH officials conspiring to circumvent the role of the Senate in appointments, and adding insult to injury by using provisions of the Patriot Act to further their craven political goals. Also, as matthew points, if, as asserted by Gonzales and others, the President and Cheney were party to these shenanigans, how does executive privilege apply?

correction,..
next to last line should read President and Cheney were NOT party, etc...

Lydia
Clearly you're not an idiot. However, regarding Carol Lam, local reporting about her in San Diego has consistently recognized her preference for prosecuting white collar crime over cross-border crime (e.g., gun-running, narcotics).

Readers of the San Diego Union-Tribune knew of her firing in January. You might be interested in the information in this article:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20070112-9999-1n12lam.html

There have been a number of articles of this kind. I haven't followed the tenures of the other seven fired attorneys, but Lam's actual prosecution record makes Tony Snow's statement about the reason for her firing pass the smell test.

Thank you Liberty
Here is the link.
Knowing how Murtha is so open to bribes and the oil money involved, this information is enough to prompt an investigation.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44701

Had a key repeat too fast on the first one.

Tunneler
Minor point. Rostankowski was a congressman, not a senator.

To Liberty
No, Liberty, I don't like isolationist delusions whether served up by the left or the right. In the last week, I noted that Pat Buchanan's columns on foreign policy were McGovernite. But let's focus on what Pat Buchanan has done very well lately, a very good defense of General Pace and a very good attack on a Democrat Congress.

What about Accountability?
Where were all of you during the impeachment?

Now, we have an administration that is actually breaking laws, ignoring the Constitution, running wild and using every dirty political partisan trick in the book, and all of you wish to ignore it?

What about following our laws? Is that not part of this administration’s duty?

Lying the country into a war
Manipulating intelligence to fit pre-conceived agendas
Ignoring intelligence that does not support their agenda
Attacking and firing experts, since 2002/3 who tried to warn these policies were wrong, ill conceived, and some down right lies being told
Wasting billions of dollars in Iraq and New Orleans
Allowing the REAL terrorist in Afghanistan to regroup
Complete degradation of our Military
Exposing CIA agents
Spying on Americans without any oversight
Cheney profiteering from Halliburton- Using the office for personal gain!


What does it take for any of you to see the real character, or lack thereof, of the members on this Administration?

The separation of powers does not mean we allow a president to run over our laws, rules, and Constitution. All of the items on the list above show this Administration holds no respect for our system of government.

When Buchanan states, “This is about preserving and protecting the integrity of the institution of the presidency.” It is a hollow cry. Separation of powers does not mean unaccountability, In fact, it is the opposite. If this administration removed counsel because they were too close to exposing fraud or refusing to abuse the office and the laws, we need to know.

So far, that is exactly what this is looking like.

By David C. Iglesias- one of the eight fired
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032107D.shtml
If you prefer the original: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/21/opinion/21iglesias.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Protecting the integrity of the institution of the presidency mandates that this and every other deed be scrutinized. Accountability of the presidency must be maintained. And this abusive of office be answered for.

We put a president under oath for a sex scandal. There is no reason that these people not be placed under the same standard while investigating the corruptive use of our legal system.

youmakemepuke
Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

Bill Kennedy 116
Harold Ickes 148
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Egglseston 250
Hillary Clinton 250
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton 348
Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697

FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.

I don't remember - 71
I don't know - 62
I'm not sure - 17
I have no idea - 10
I don't believe so - 9
I don't recall - 8
I don't think so - 8
I don't have any specific recollection - 6
I have no recollection - 4
Not to my knowledge - 4
I just don't remember - 4
I don't believe - 4
I have no specific recollection - 3
I might have - 3
I don't have any recollection of that - 2 I don't have a specific memory - 2
I don't have any memory of that - 2
I just can't say - 2
I have no direct knowledge of that - 2
I don't have any idea - 2
Not that I recall - 2
I don't believe I did - 2
I can't remember - 2
I can't say - 2
I do not remember doing so - 2
Not that I remember - 2
I'm not aware - 1
I honestly don't know - 1
I don't believe that I did - 1
I'm fairly sure - 1
I have no other recollection - 1
I'm not positive - 1
I certainly don't think so - 1
I don't really remember - 1
I would have no way of remembering that - 1
That's what I believe happened - 1
To my knowledge, no - 1
To the best of my knowledge - 1
To the best of my memory - 1
I honestly don't recall - 1
I honestly don't remember - 1
That's all I know - 1
I don't have an independent recollection of that - 1
I don't actually have an independent memory of that - 1
As far as I know - 1
I don't believe I ever did that - 1
That's all I know about that - 1
I'm just not sure - 1
Nothing that I remember - 1
I simply don't know - 1
I would have no idea - 1
I don't know anything about that - 1
I don't have any direct knowledge of that - 1
I just don't know - 1
I really don't know - 1
I can't deny that, I just -- I have no memory of that at all - 1


youmakemecrap
I wonder how many times Chappaquiddick Ted said i don't know or I can't remember after he murdered Mary Jo?

Come to think of it, I wonder if Gary Condit got counsel from The Swimmer after he murdered Chandra Levy after he got her pregnant. Gee, him and The Swimmer got something in COMMON! WOW! Just like William Kennedy and Bill Clinton...both rapists.

Ben
Do you have an original thought or just repost the same sh*t over and over?

Your crap has been debunked so many times here that it had a full beard. Skip back to DailyKos, they miss you in their keyboard circle jerks I'm sure.

Please, the adults are talking....shhhhh.

GunnyG
GunnyG writes: Friday, March, 23, 2007 7:36 PM
Ben
Do you have an original thought or just repost the same sh*t over and over?

Your crap has been debunked so many times here that it had a full beard. Skip back to DailyKos, they miss you in their keyboard circle jerks I'm sure.

Please, the adults are talking....shhhhh.
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You have never done it. And that was original. What do you call that above? Intellectual?

And, yes, we are talking about you- mainly that you are just a drag.

dyerje
dyerje writes: Friday, March, 23, 2007 4:23 PM

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===============================================================dyerje writes: Friday, March, 23, 2007 4:23 PM =============================================
dyerje, good article. Thanks.



Good night all.

Clinton fired all but.......
......one US atty when he started his first term. This is an undeniable fact. Just like it is an undeniable fact that this is NORMAL when a new President from a different party takes office. The third undeniable fact is that it is almost unheard of for US atty's to be forced out mid-term. It amazes me that either A) There are that many people who post on this site who spout off without knowing all the facts. Or B) There are that many people who post on this site who willingly lie by ommission.

Phil Byler
Phil, let's be honest here. You, like most liberals, believe in a BIG federal government. Pat, on the other hand, believes in a limited Constitutional government, like most of the founding fathers.

As far as foreign policy is concerned, you are an interventionist, while Pat is a non-interventionist. You apparently buy into the idea that it is a great idea to use our military to enforce UN sanctions and be the globo-cop for international companies. Pat does not. Quite frankly, Phil, I am having a very difficult time finding support for using our military in the fashion you desire, anywhere in the Constitution. Could you direct me to the clause?

Ben - re. Accountability
I agree with you wholeheartedly.

All these townhall meetings are a waste. We're so hypocritical to be politically correct -- we have lost our way.

The Republicans loved it when they had control of the Senate, House and Executive Branch. There were no longer any checks and balances. Now that the Democrats have the opportunity to question and verify, the Repubicans want to holler "Fowl!" The author of this article is a hypocrite, and an insult to the citizens of the USA.

This country is so far removed from God, there's no way to get it back on track. We pray the Lord come soon. The policiticans sold their seats to the lobbyists in hopes of contributions to their campaign coffers, and our country has been sold off by bits and pieces to foreigners. I feel bad for our children and grandchildren. Some of us remember a quieter, gentler nation where neighbors looked after each other, you didn't have to lock your doors. Little folks could walk to the store and buy bread and milk to help mom and dad. They didn't demand an allowance to do their chores. The family shared responsibility -- daddy went to work, mom baked, sewed, kept house and children, and they went to church or temple on Sunday or Shabbat. When there was a tragedy, neighbor and community pitched in. School was a place to learn, and prayer and Bible reading in the morning set the atmosphere for the day ahead. Bullies were disciplined. Children weren't allowed to be disrespectful to grown-ups. You didn't walk across other people's yards or tear up someone else's property. If you did, you had to apologize and make amends. There were no exceptions. You cheated in school, you flunked the test.

Now 90% of college students admit to cheating; alcohol is the norm.

Those cheaters enter the workforce and some enter politics.

We're so far removed from the commandments of God, there's no return.

President Bush, V.P. Cheney, and U.S. Attorney General Gonzales are not above the law, Mr. Buchanan. They are citizens first and took an oath to uphold the law and the Constitution of the United States of America. The Lord holds them accountable and we have the same right. They were put in positions of trust and to be held accountable is tantamount to dictatorship. President Bush too often says .. 'cause I say so.

There's too many Nimrods in the world today.

The Republicans had full control of the House, Senate and Executive Branch. Not too much ever got accomplished, except pork barrel politics, and getting us into a war we cannot win for a people who are cruel and intolerant of others -- a civil war between religious factions -- of which we cannot accept -- kill the infidels (all non-muslims). We're there because of the oil and two oilmen out of the White House and manipulation of the facts that got us into the mess.

Things will never be right until the Lord comes to set up His kingdom. We're stuck here waiting 'til He comes. The high and mighty will try to hide when that day comes!

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