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Thursday, November 16, 2006
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Is a Bush-Pelosi amnesty ahead?
by Pat Buchanan
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With the resignation of Republican National Committee Chair Ken Mehlman, President Bush intends to fill the post with Florida's Mel Martinez, a Hispanic who led the battle in the U.S. Senate for amnesty for illegal aliens.

"Martinez is going to lead the fight for amnesty that Bush could not win when Republicans controlled the Congress," one angry RNC member told The Washington Times' Ralph Hallow.

Unable to extract an amnesty bill from Denny Hastert and Co. in the House like the McCain-Kennedy bill he supports, Bush is looking to cut a deal with San Francisco Nancy.

Amnesty is to be the Bush legacy, and Martinez is to be the face of the party on the most explosive domestic issue of our era. For that, GOP precinct workers walked the line to hold Congress for the party.

Bush and Karl Rove still have not gotten the message, and probably never will. They have swallowed the Wall Street Journal and Weekly Standard line that the party's tough stance against illegal immigration hurt with Hispanics and only a "comprehensive" immigration bill can heal the wounds. "Comprehensive" is the code word for amnesty.

But Bush and Rove are misreading the returns as badly as they misread the country when they predicted the GOP would hold onto both chambers. Let's have another look at those returns.

According to NumbersUSA, while Republicans lost 11.5 percent of their House seats, or one in nine, the Immigration Caucus of Tom Tancredo, the House hawks, lost 6.7 percent of its complement, only one in 16. Among Republicans given an "F" by immigration hawks, however, fully 25 percent lost their re-election bids, a bloodbath among the open-borders-and-amnesty-now crowd.

It was Bush's War and Republican scandals that lost America, not the party's stand on border security and immigration.

Imitation, it is said, is the sincerest form of flattery. Thus it is a testament to the popular appeal of the stop-the-invasion stand that Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton voted for 700 miles of security fence.

Indulging in their favorite pastime, cherry-picking evidence, the neocons claim that the losses in Arizona by Rep. J.D. Hayworth and Randy Graf, both hardliners, prove that Arizona and America reject a law-and-order approach to illegal immigration.

Yet Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl, a hardliner, won re-election easily.

More significant, Arizonans voted in landslides on Nov. 7 to deny bail to illegal aliens, to bar them from receiving any punitive damages in lawsuits and make English the state language. Among Latinos, 48 percent voted to make English the official language, just as, two years ago, 47 percent voted to cut off all welfare to anyone who could not prove he or she was in the country legally.

Latinos are patriots, too. They don't like their country's laws trampled on with impunity or their tax dollars going to support scofflaws, no matter their nationality.

Why did Graf lose? Jim Kolbe, the GOP congressman whom Graf chased out of the race, refused to endorse him, and Mehlman's RNC gutted him in the primary.

The neocons also point to the fall-off in the Hispanic vote for the GOP, from 38 percent in 2002 to 30 percent in 2006, and attribute the drop-off to calls for a border fence. Yet far more serious was the fall-off among white voters, whose support, as Steve Sailer of VDare.com points out, fell from 58 percent in 2002 to 51 percent.

The relevant truth: The GOP vote fell 7 or 8 percent among all voters. But the seven-point plunge among white voters is more ominous than the eight-point drop among Hispanics. Why?

Because the white vote in America, 80 percent of the electorate, is 13 times as large as the Hispanic vote, which accounts for only 6 percent of all voters. It is the defection of its white vote that is killing the GOP.

The Reagan Democrats are going home.

If Bush and Rove think they can win them back with amnesty and a guest-worker program that out-sources immigration policy to K Street, they will end up doing for the national party what Gov. George Pataki did for it in New York.

Had Bush made border security and less immigration a dividing issue with the Democrats, fewer GOP lawmakers would be working on their resumes.

That Democrats are more aware of this than Rove is apparent, as one reads the astonishing story in The Washington Post headlined, "Democrats May Proceed With Caution on Immigration: Explosive Issue Not a Top Priority for Incoming Leaders."

The reporters summarized Democratic thinking thus:

"In the days after the election, Democratic leaders surprised pro-immigration groups by not including the issue on their list of immediate priorities. Experts said the issue is so complicated, so sensitive and so explosive that it could easily blow up in the Democrats' faces and give control of Congress back to Republicans in the next election two years from now. And a number of Democrats who took a hard line on immigration were also elected to Congress."

After being named RNC chair, Mehlman headed straight to the NAACP convention -- to apologize for the Nixon-Reagan strategy that gave the GOP the presidency in five of six straight elections.

And how has all that pandering availed Mehlman and Rove and George W. Bush?

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Bush is deliberately oblivious
Nobody can truly be that blind to the overwhelming public opinion that been expressed in the discussion of amnesty. Bush is purposely misinterpreting the election results in order to have an excuse to push through his cherished amnesty program. It is interesting to watch as the President sells out the citizens of this country on behalf on the citizens of a foreign land.
If Bush sympathizes with the economic problems faced by the citizens of Mexico, perhaps he should put forth effort to encourage reforms in Mexico, thus improving the lot of every Mexican citizen. However, since his true purpose is to sell out his countrymen so he can provide cheap labor for the business powers that own the politicians like lapdogs, there is no chance that immigration reform will take place. Those businesses that hire illegally get cheap labor, and the average citizen picks up the tab for the comsumption of government benefits and crime. Bush will bask in the glory of a legacy that helped seal the economic downfall of this country. That will be what he will be remembered for, not for losing Iraq, but rather for giving away the United States for a campaign donation.

Keep writing Pat
no matter how many fruity tutties attack you. Thanks for your columns.

A Prediction
No matter who is in office...nothing will be done other than perhaps window dressing...illegal immigration will continue to worsen until Los Angeles finally completes the transition to Bladerunner-ville...in 30 years, I will be telling stories to my grandchildren about how there actually used to be things called trauma centers and how people actually lived one or two to a bedroom.

I have written
a fair bit on illegal immigration, as you can see from my many self-citations. Of course we're talking about people, not garbage. But a government owes allegiance to it citizens. Period. As individuals of conscience, we might do what we can to alleviate Mexican suffering. But it is not the obligation of American society to tend Mexico's needs. This is the most basic and obvious tenet of the idea of a social compact. Does your heart bleed for the poor country folk down south? Go there and teach them. It is no one's place to invite them here, because it is no one's place to operate above the reasonable law. Would you leave water in the desert for them? This is charity, and a kindness. But if you take them by the hand and lead them from there to here, you are a criminal too.

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/04/10-of-population-of-mexico-is-in-us.html

An analogy: My home is mine. I may not kill you, if you invade it – appropriate force and all that – but I have the unassailable right to use reasonable force to defend it. It is something worth defending. Who enters, is up to me. Guests must be invited. Gate-crashers will be expelled. Home invaders will be stopped, up to and including the use of deadly force. It’s not a fetish, not a macho thing – it’s a necessity, interwoven throughout the first two, the most basic, the most needed, of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs.
...
The application of this analogy is thus: this is my country. My fellow citizens and I own it. We band together and agree upon its laws. We enforce those laws with all necessary force. Those who disagree with this reality, do not just get to have it their own way because they would have it so. As members of this society, they are subject to its laws and the punishment that follows the breach of those laws. They enjoy the benefits of this society, and the price of such benefit is compliance with its mores. If they would not follow the law they must change it. If they would not follow it or change it, then they must suffer its penalty. If they would not suffer its penalty, they must leave the protection of this society. There is no integrity, outside this formula.

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/03/my-country.html

And so on:

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/04/give-and-take.html

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/05/fair-play.html

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/05/no-really-it-must-be-good-idea-somehow.html

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/04/education.html

There is an intuitive understanding in Americans, that what we have is special, and to be guarded. It's the other guy's hard luck that he wasn't born here. He wasn't, and he does not get to share our blessings, simply because he wants them. They are not human rights, but privilages, given by dint of citizenship. This is a hard truth, and it can be changed, if we do not uphold it. We have not elected representatives who seem committed to this truth. So, as for the future, we must, sadly, hold our breath -- since our individual power is so slight.


J

No Way
President Bush stands ready to deliver the last rites for conservatism in this century with the signing of an amnesty bill, and the Democrats aren't going to play ball? No way, I just don't see it. Believe me I want to be wrong on this, but I just can't believe that some kind of accomodation won't be reached. Sure it will contain some tough talking language, lots of promises, and empty rhetoric; but the reality is that it will be amnesty pure and simple.

Look for some complicated program that includes a few rubber stamp procedures, minimal fines, lax and overwhelmed enforcement mechanisms, and voila you now have "instant citizens". Plans and Procedures to prevent future illegals will be just as inept as what we face today. Nothing signifcant will be done to remove the incentives that bring illegals here (freebies, anchor babies, jobs) and the process will start all over again -- look for another amnesty for the 30 to 40 million illegals in our country about the year 2026.

The Democrats turning down Bush's amnesty proposal would be like a starving dog turning his nose away from a T-bone steak. Ain't gonna happen!

Treason
That's the only word for this. Will Americans stand for it?

Double minded
The same people who are merciless in attaching Buchannan for his reluctance to pursue military conflict over the globe are the ones who praise me for defending the borders.

This is because they don't have any coherent philosophy of goverance. They pick and chose what suits them.

Buchannan is much more in line with the principles of the conservatism of Barry Goldwater then of George Bush.

Of Barry Goldwater his supporters chanted, "In your heart you know his right," While his detractors chanted, "In you gut you know he's nuts."

Buchannan supporters and detractors are the same people.

Martinez is
a snake in the grass and the President's boy. The senate campaign in Florida showed Martinez' despicable and disgusting side through the false, misleading campaign advertisement against Bill McCollum. If America does not stand against the President's amnesty submission, coupled with our weak kneed action against terrorists, we will kneel in national submission soon.

As much as I disagree with Pat
He is right on the money with immigration and holding lawbreakers accountable...

Pat, Pat
More than half of congress persons are criminals. Some caught, some not.

Congress persons gain some mystical wisdom when elected and they understand things as we normal humans never could. Aside from their other vices, they lie in order to live. It's like breathing to them. As an example, no congress person will tell you that we need the illegals to keep the economic engine running. Now I know you don't believe that Pat, but it is true just the same. We are and have been for some time a debtor nation.

Why do you think all these little half-as ed countries keep telling us where to stick it. We have no money and we have no balls. We have talkers.

Until the the government gets honest with the people it governs, you can expect more of the same no matter which party is in power.

Remember Pat, illegal is good.

just remember.........
Like in Reagans bill, amnesty is IMMEDIATE...all the 'enforcement' issues remained promises and so it will be today.

Bush wants the North American Union where there ARE NO borders.

I keep saying it, but Bush SHOULD be impeached..not for Iraq, but for this.

We're doomed as far as I can see.

The only organized voice we have that I know of is http://www.numbersusa.com...they are great at keeping people informed and sending polite faxes on your behalf. I really encourage people to join it...it's free unless you want to contribute.

And you know...I'd like to see what others think, but I do feel there's going to be a civil war, or huge civil 'battles' at some point.

Can you imagine a president and other elected officials having the tamarity to think they know better than the overwhelming majority of the citizens?


George Bush will go down
in history not for the Iraq war but for destroying the United States of America after he gives amnesty to all the illegals. Why would a President destroy his own country and betray the people of America? The man must be mad. I feel so bad because I voted for him both times.

Whose idea was that?
Republicans, Conservatives, and the Christian Right had to question the decision to attack immigration months before the elections. It wasn't President Bush's idea to do this. One day we woke up and all Conservatives in talk radio were calling the illegals killers, rapist, sex offenders, drug dealers, and kidnappers. Our prisons were full of nothing but illegals, our jobs were being taken by illegals and the working wage was being blamed on the illegals also for working for such low wages. It was a bad decision because everyone wanted to have their way. Everyone wanted their name to follow the immigration bill that won the election for the Republicans and it backfired. The Hispanics President Bush won over switch sides and voted for the Democrats. It's still going to take a lot to bring them back to the Republican party thanks to bad planning on whoever thought up that ridiculous plan to attack the illegals months before the elections. No Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives, or Christian Right can blame President Bush for the divide among the country over the illegal issue. Poll, after poll, after poll, did President Bush address the illegal issues because his base was making such a big deal about it just months before an election. How smart was that? The base shot itself in the foot and President Bush was not holding the gun. We know what your doing. Your not fooling anyone with your clever Reagan democrats are coming home. Or those other sly phrases you love to use. We know the war your fighting alone, inside you own mind. One day it's going to catch up with you and your going to realize what a wasted life and wasted fight you've been fighting with the American people over a one sided ideology point of view.

Right on
Bush is such a liberal. I can not stand him pretending to be a conservative. Just come out and say you are a Democrat and get the hell out of the RNC and allow us to have our conservative party.

We need more outrage by GOP members to take back our party. Bush and his extreme arogance fails to see why we lost in 2006 and continues to push forward his liberal agenda.

Impeach
I agree that he should be impreached for this. He is failing to uphold the oath he swore to when he was made President. He should be held accountable for this and sent to jail.

Relax! It's just busniess.
You are right Sawgunner that illegal immigration is not about feeling sorry for Mexicans or compassion that drives Bush, it is corporations. I am sure a deal was struck before the election. Bush wants out of Iraq too and the dems will give him his excuse. I do not think he really cares about citizenship for the illegals because it makes it harder for Business to pay under the table but he will keep that border open.

When the genius Cheney purchased Dresser Industries when at the head of Halliburton he almost sunk the company. Gee, lack of due diligence, sound familiar? Then he tried to fix that by giving Kellogg Brown, and Root (KBR) all those contracts in Iraq. That did not go so well either. I am sure the execs did fine on salary (150 mil est. for the CEO of Halliburton) and perks but it has been a drain on Halliburton. The asbestos stuff got settled with a couple billion and then the remaining problem was KBR.

This morning KBR had their IPO and I see the inside Halliburton holders did well with a 23% boost in price and are now likely selling. Now Cheney's buddies are paid off and the administration can give up on making money in Iraq. (KBR is under a number of federal investigations and looks terrible financially but it still went up 23%+ on the open, amazing. Bankers must be buying with repos from the fed.)

Enter the Dems and Bush has his ace in the hole for any problems that might develop from a pull out from Iraq.

Looks like Rove did a good job again. Bush gets his cheap labor and Cheney fixes his problem and the administration can blame the dems for Iraq and the economy when it goes south. Way to go Carl!

Bush is LOOKING to ...cut a deal...?
I believe it is a DONE deal. Bush wants to give 12 Million Lawbreaking Illegal Aliens first amnesty then citizenship AND THE REST OF US HAVE NO SAY IN THE MATTER! No one could be so stupid as to NOT understand what the people have said, yet he continues inexorably towards his goal. Surely, with citizens volunteering to stand watch on the border, with all the public outcry against this invasion, not even Bush can misread the public's message. Even now he is expressing pleasure that the Democratic party will work with him on a comprehensive policy. Read that Amnesty/Citizenship.
When the president could not get his amnesty/citizenship through a Republican Congress, he helped scuttle his own party. He did this knowing the Dems would give him his amnesty/citizenship when they came into control and to he11 with what the people think, want or what is best for the country.

Thinking Hispanics Are Pro
Illegal is really racist. Why would Hispanic Americans want these illegals here any more than the rest of us? Why do politicians think being for securing the border and anti-illegal immigratiion is going to cost them the Hispanic vote? The illegals would just as soon steal the Hispanic American's job as to steal the Anglo American's job. These job thieves drive down EVERYBODY'S wages. These job thieves drive up EVERYBODY'S taxes.

Trying to woo people into the party who
aren't in line with Republican values is stupid. The people who think like that are so concentrated on "winning" they don't realize that winning is of no importance if the people we put in office aren't really conservatives.

Stage set for new American Civil War
It is a done deal - always has been. George Bush is not a conservative by any means - he's a businessman through and through. Typical MBA thinking - illegals are more cost-effective than citizens - lower wages, no benefits, taxpayers have to pick up the costs of necessary services and the courts will shove the "rights" of the illegals down the taxpayers' throats.

The South considered secession the only alternative when the banks and financiers in New York and New England refused to loan money to the southerners so they could build the factories and the railroads that were built in the North. Now the same monied interests are selling the American middle class down the toilet for their corporate bottom line - and the country club Republicans are in the leadership slots. A new civil war? Hell, yes, the stage is being set. Only this one could be alot nastier than the first one because it will be based not only on economics and class but also to preserve the European-based heritage of this country. Pray it won't happen - but it is falling into place.

Criminally Insane "President"
George W. Bush is indeed a madman--worse than Hitler, in my estimation--and he belongs in a mental institution for the criminally insane.
This emperor has no clothes with which to conceal his evil machinations to dissolve the United States of America.
His arrogance knows no bounds. He is a law unto himself. This rogue head of state, needs the corrective discipline of a deliberate people. The time is ripe for the Second American Revolution, to overthrow this tyrant.

In case you were still fooled:
Bush and Pelosi will indeed be snug as 2 bugs in a rug regarding immigration.
The only difference between them is that Pelosi doesn't try to hide the fact that she is a national sovereignty destruction advocate.
Bush the Betrayer, has far more in common with the extreme left than people are willing to admit.
Does anyone remember what the prognosis for treason was 200 years ago?

EL PRESIDENTE JORGE BUSH
Bush should be impeached for not protecting the american people from foreign invasion.He swore an oath to uphold the constitution and has failed to do so.He has betrayed the people who put so much faith in him that thought he was one of them, myself included.We were so excited about the extremely close election in 2000 with all its drama that we were not paying attention to the dismantling of the Party of Reagon. No child left behind, prescription drug benefit, no vetoes, Harriet Myers, back-stabbing Trent Lott in 2002 with his forced resignation,banishing Tom Tancredo from the White House, calling the minutemen vigilantes,Iraq War, nation building,spending like a drunken sailor, forming a coalition with the Reconquista Republicans in the senate including my future former senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, supported candidates in primaries who are neocons, working secretly on the north american highway linking MEXICO-Canada-USA,and of course finally the total destruction of our way of life with the amnesty of 20 million plus third world impoverished and illiterate aliens. That was all before the election.You would think he would have got the message. When asked about the pospects of passing amnesty legislation with the democrats now in charge, he could not hide his excitement. Now he has nominated Mel Martinez to be Chairman of the RNC, the senator who co -sponsored amnesty, so they can field more amnesty republicans and punish any conservatives in the 2008 elections.Too bad Bush, Rove,the reconquista republicans, Vincente Fox,and La Raza were not having a love fest at Top of the World Restaurant on 9-11.Speaking of 9-11, you would think after that tragic day , he would have immediately sent troops to the border so that not even Speedy Gonzales could get in. That was a no brainer, we are attacked so you secure the border and the ports, no one including the drive by media could claim it would be nativists which I do not mind being called or worsely racist.But six years later and 7 million new aliens , he sends a token 6000 troops down to the border who actually aren't on the border , don't carry weapons, and as far as I know have not been fully deployed.I agree with Wolfgang, that if something is not done in the next few years there will be a bloody civil war and I will be at the front of the line to get my rifle, but lets hope it does not come to that. i have been fascinated by the fact that we have not heard more bloggers speaking in those terms, some would call that racists, nativists, extremists, or just plain nuts. No sorry, I just love my country, culture, way of live,the rule of law and our common language that binds us all that our ancestors fought for and died for so that We all may enjoy today!!
i believe there is a way to solve this national crisis and it is a crisis. If any one believes that the iraq war is more important than securing our borders then they are just plain stupid. More americans are vicitms of crime, rape, murder, dui- related injury or death, on a yearly basis by illegal aliens than were killed on 9-11. If we have a tamper proof national id card and also all social security cards become tamper proof with biometric fingerprint technology ,we coincide this with taking taking paper currency out of use and instead everyone does business elctronically by use of credit cards and debit cards. Our banking institutions would be charged with certifying that the apllicants have valid social security cards and id's. Employers would no longer be able to pay illegals cash which they most often due nor would they be able to transfer money into there account because they would not be able to even open one without a valid social security number and other vailid id's.They would be forced to go back to there home country simply by withering on the vine, war of attrition.this would also have many other benefits. Drud dealers would be out of buisiness, along with all black market or underground economies. Tax cheats,and others who work simply for cash could no longer hide their income thereby increasing government revenue 100 fold. Bank robbery and convenience store robbery would become a thing of the past and so many more lives would be saved because of it.Most people already use credit and debit cards more frequently, it seems to me to be a natural progression anyway. Everyone is paying there taxes, illegal activity is greatly reduced and by the way this countries greatest crisis, illegal immigration is non existent.The republican party would win super majorities in both houses for the next 50 years by solving the most explosive problem of our lifetime very creatively without having the tag of being a racists by the drive by media. all of the other collateral benefits could not be ignored.The american people would be forever greatful and there faith in government would be restored. Sounds to good to be true. Oh well, I guess we will have a idea on how things will play out the next few years.Will it be solved as the american people want or will the amnesty crowd prevail.Is civil war in our future? Viva La Revolution baby!



Otis
Bless your heart. You read Frank Zappa's book!

Everyone Wanting To Do Something

About The Illegal Alien Problem

What about writing your congressman telling him to urge that the EXISTING laws regarding Entering the Country Illegally; AND the EXISTING laws regarding hiring Illegal Aliens be enforced.

We don't need NEW laws for illegal aliens. We have laws on the books.

We don't need NEW laws against hiring illegals. We have laws on the books.

All the bullschidt all last summer about needing "comprehensive" laws; all the laws proposed by both houses were just a sedative for the people. They were to just make YOU calm and to make you think they would really do something.
We have all been made fools of by both parties.
When the Head RINO gets his amnesty/citizenship agenda passed by the Democrats, we will all have just been raped.

otis you are right about the border...
When Kennedy was assassinated the border was shut down tight.

Attrition by Enforcement
http://www.controlcongress.com

Guest Column: D. A. King

Although there has been no American president who has done less to remedy the situation than George W. Bush, the current illegal immigration crisis in the United States did not happen overnight.

The sad reality is that it will not be solved quickly or as the result of any single action…including building a badly needed physical barrier between the U.S. and Mexico. Elected officials, pollsters and frustrated citizens need to remember this undeniable fact.

Included in a widely publicized exit poll conducted by Edison Media Research/Mitofsky International from last Tuesday’s mid-term election was this question:

Should most illegal immigrants working in the United States be:

1) Offered a chance to apply for legal status

2) Deported to the country they came from

Many polls should be added to the old adage that “there are lies, damned lies and statistics.”

Too bad there was no question asking what should be done with the criminal employers who are allowed to flout the same rule of law.

Essentially, the wording created a choice between amnesty-again, or mass round-ups and forced deportations. This false choice does not reflect the reality of what has already proven to begin to solve the nationally suicidal problem of continued illegal immigration and employment.

Steady attrition of the illegal alien population by enforcement of existing laws is the answer omitted from this and most polls and discussions.

Securing American borders is only one essential step.

Nowhere is there more visible proof that enforcement – even the promise of future enforcement - of existing laws is an effective method of reducing the illegal immigration population than here in Georgia.

Referring to what became the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act (SB 529), in December, former Atlanta Mexican Consul General Teodoro Maus was quoted by the Associated Press as saying “If all of this happens, we’re going to say, ‘Don’t come to Georgia,’” …meaning the future illegal border crossers.

SB 529 does nothing but mirror and comply with existing law using available tools.

Focused on illegal aliens already here, state Senator Sam Zamarripa had this observation in the spring on the attrition of the illegal population he realized would occur as a result of enforcement of SB529: “ It comes down to people saying that New Orleans is looking good”.

While the numbers of illegals in Georgia skyrocketed in the first five years of the decade, many are now looking for a more accomadating state in which to live and work illegally.

“Diego Castaneda, a real estate agent and loan officer in Norcross, Ga., had two clients — illegal immigrants from Mexico — who were a week away from closing on homes in Atlanta’s northern suburbs when they pulled out of their contracts,” the L.A. Times reported earlier this year in an article on the Georgia legislation’s effect.

“I’m leaving…to the north, maybe to Montana” was Norcross day laborer Orlando Rojas’ remark to an AJC reporter in May after getting a written warning from Gwinnett Police for loitering on private property shortly after the Georgia legislation was signed into law.

In 1986, we proved that amnesty and a chance to apply for legal status only encourages further illegal immigration and employment.

Illegal aliens are now leaving Georgia. Self deportation will occur nationally if we begin to enforce our immigration and employment laws . Like they do in Mexico.

Let’s try attrition by enforcement - it is the only thing we haven’t tried.

Too bad that concept was not included as a possible answer choice on the recent poll

Open Borders
I think it will be found that the establishment of open or pseudo closed borders under the push and pen of President Bush will have sufficiently higher value on the altar of neo-conservatism to redeem him from the grievous sin of backing off military support for the state of Israel.
There is a higher order governing AIPAC and to it all lesser powers wittingly or unwittingly pay homage. In a word, ordinarily hushed, that order assumes the master planning of the NWO.
The eventual homogenization of every national identity is one of the top goals of the real powers behind the NWO. Open borders cannot but guarantee this.
"If you want to identify the real rulers of any society, simply ask yourself this question: Who is it that I cannot criticize?" - Kevin Alfred Strom

It took two ...
RINO Republican Presidents, father and son, to destroy the Republican Party and the Reagan Revolution. There will never be another Reagan and we will continue to be governed by the evil of two lessers until we are nuked out of existence by the Axis of Evil.

Constitution
A proper read of the Constitution reveals that the ArtI,Sec8, in the listed enumerated powers, does not give any authority to the Federal government to make laws or resolutions regarding Immigration. The misconception that The Feds have such a power derives from the "to establish an uniform rule of naturalization," which is citizenship AFTER arrival, not the arrival itself. ArtI,Sec9,1stClause says, "the migration" (a verb) [migration refers to such persons who willingly and purposefully were to come to the US with intent to reside and become citizens] "OR" (this OR is most important word in this paragraph- referring to two distinct actions- migration of free immigrants OR importation of property slaves) "the importation" (a verb) [importation refers to such persons compelled against their will to come to the US as labor property, as slaves] "of such persons the states now existing shall think proper to admit" [ curious self-perpetuating phraseology, but give each and all states indefinite control of immigration policy in their separate jurisdictions] "shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year eight hundred and eight [1808], but...". Must now go and read complete ArtV., after introducing the concept of amendments to update or correct the Constitution and detailing the various methods and process of amendment, the ArtV. says, "provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year -1808- shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses of the ninth section of the First Article; and...". It has since been interpreted by SCOTUS that the Amendments XIII of 1865 which abolished slavery, XIV of 1868 which redefined and elaborated Rights & Privileges of Citizenship, & XV of 1870 which guaranteed voting rights of all citizens. SCOTUS is wrong to interpret these Amendments as granting jurisdiction of Immigration policy to Feds. Read these carefully- the ArtV mention of the date 1808- also the mention of 1st, 4th clauses links these provisions directly, and prohibits Legislative (Congressional) or for that matter, Executive or Judicial interference in states immigration policy unless Constitution is specifically amended to that purpose which it has not been.

Is a Bush-Pelosi amnesty ahead?
I think this greatly depends on timing, opportunity and circumstance.
Obviously now or as the next Congress is first operational next year, it's unlikely that an opening will occur. Republicans have a bitter taste in their mouths and Democrats won't have been placated yet.
Though the longer it takes to introduce amnesty the more chance there is for conflict between Liberals and Bush to muddy the waters.

Make no mistake however, organizations that are in a headlong rush to gain control by importing millions of Hispanics will be watching for the chance and constantly prodding for that perfect opportunity to charge the goal line.

If I were calculating an opportune time I would be looking for a combination of sleeping populace, enough votes and a peak of corporate backroom influence.
Perhaps late next year or early 08?

That the Bush-Pelosi alliance would be willing to stoop to any depth in an effort to outdo 1965 Ted Kennedy in opening America to those most willing to defile her is obvious to millions of Americans.

Our only real defense is vigilance and the passions of those millions of American citizens that now know the truth.

merrygoboy
Re: difference in "walls" You hit the nail on the head! Thanks for keeping this subject front and center, Pat. We need to always remember NO AMNESTY!
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