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Friday, November 10, 2006
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Are more "thumpings" needed?
by Pat Buchanan
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While the losses were not large for the sixth year of a sitting president -- a net of six Senate seats and 30-odd House seats -- the significance of Nov. 7 is huge and the consequences will be historic.

But it is crucial to sift out what the nation was saying and what it was not saying. Nov. 7 was a referendum on George Bush, the Iraq war and the Republican Party, and, undeniably, a repudiation of all three. Tuesday's rout is what happens to a hubristic party that leads a nation into an unnecessary and unwise war, and presents that nation with a congressional face of self-indulgence and corruption.

But the nation that rejected Bush and the Republicans did not reject conservatism. To the contrary, it seemed to want to punish the prodigal sons for abandoning the faith of their fathers.

What did America vote against?

It voted against Bush's war of democratic imperialism and the mismanagement of that war. It voted against Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham and Mark Foley. It voted against a party that postures as conservative while indulging in a six-year pig-out on the taxpayers' tab, the altarpiece of which was a $250 million "bridge to nowhere."

What did America not vote against? It did not vote against tax cuts or conservative judges or a security fence. How do we know? Because no Democrat in a hotly contested race said he would raise taxes, reject Supreme Court nominees like John Roberts and Samuel Alito or grant amnesty for illegal aliens.

The principal beneficiary of the election may be Nancy Pelosi, but this election was no mandate for an ultraliberal feminist who spent much of the campaign in protective custody so America would not see what they would be getting when they dumped Denny Hastert.

But if this was no mandate for a new "progressive era," as the media are trying to portray it, what was it a mandate for?

The answers are apparent.

The nation agrees with the Democratic Party that the minimum wage should be raised and a cost-benefit analysis done on Bush trade deals that leave Wal-Mart cluttered with cheap Chinese goods, while hollowing out American manufacturing and converting company towns into ghost towns.

The open-borders crowd is chortling that Randy Graf and J.D. Hayworth went down to defeat, but deliberately ignores the far more relevant fact that Arizonans voted even tougher restrictions on state benefits for illegal aliens.

In Michigan, the GOP establishment deserted Ward Connerly's principled battle to end reverse discrimination. But while the GOP went down to defeat, the Connerly ballot initiative, rooted in the idea of equal justice under law for all races, swept to a 58-42 victory. When Republicans desert Reagan Democrats, Reagan Democrats desert the GOP. Which is as it should be.

On social issues, our national division that dates to the cultural wars of the '60s, endures. Embryonic stem cell research lost a huge lead to win a slim victory in Missouri, while the toughest anti-abortion law in America went down to narrow defeat in South Dakota. But gay marriage was routed in every state where it was on the ballot, and pot for medicinal purposes was rejected in libertarian Nevada.

Yet the effect of the Republican defeat on Bush appears to have been almost destabilizing. Within 48 hours, all the campaign bluster was gone and Bush was moving to accommodate his critics.

He fired and humiliated his loyal deputy Donald Rumsfeld, told the new Mexican president he would fight for "comprehensive" reform of U.S. immigration law -- i.e., amnesty and open borders -- and had Nancy Pelosi down to the Oval Office, where she was treated as a queen, despite having portrayed the president as an incompetent ignoramus.

Coupled with what appears to be the outsourcing of Iraq policy to James Baker, Bush family consigliore, the questions arise, one after the other. Is there any real core to George W. Bush? Is there any real constancy and constancy of character and purpose?

And do we have another broken presidency on our hands?

For conservatives, the lessons of 2006 seem clear. They failed in their duty to hold the Republican Party to account when it departed from principle and political ethics, and thus failed to rescue it from the rout it has now received. The Right failed in the basic responsibility of true camaraderie: Friends don't let friends drive drunk.

What conservatives should do now is what they should have been doing for six years. Stand behind the president when he fights for low taxes and conservative judges. But when he joins with Pelosi, Vicente Fox, Felipe Calderon and McCain-Kennedy for open borders, or with Dick Durbin for "moderate justices," give him another "thumping" -- like he got from conservatives when he sought to elevate Harrier Miers to the Supreme Court and just as he got from the nation on Nov. 7.

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I don't believe in innocence anymore
"Yet the effect of the Republican defeat on Bush appears to have been almost destabilizing. Within 48 hours, all the campaign bluster was gone and Bush was moving to accommodate his critics."

George Bush is swimming furiously with the current that open borders and migrant amnesty, would send this nation over Frostbite falls.

I just don't see any harsh effects left over from this thump'n he talks about. At least so far as George is concerned, they aren’t noticeable.

His conversion has been seamless. Perhaps the cuckold victims of 'election politics' will be willing to expose the machinations that shot them in the back.
What do they have to lose? Their seat?

Verre ees Moouse and Squirrrl?

GW
seems to have turned into a democrat over night. I don't think that's what the conservatives wanted when they thumped the republicans.
Maybe I'm wrong. I can't seem to make sense of anything that's going on right now.
Open borders and amnesty is that what the conservatives wanted when they voted for the democrats?
I thought it was because of corruption and the war.
Does anybody know anything really?

Again, who got thumped?
Pat’s piece begins saying the Republican defeat wasn’t such a big deal “the losses were not large for the sixth year of a sitting president,” and then describes it as a “rout.” Which is it Pat?

Pat doesn’t explain why his voters passed anti-immigrant ballot measures, and then trounced his messengers. He thinks Bush got the "thumping" in this election. Yet his Populist ‘No Amnesty’ foot soldiers who denounced Bush are no longer standing on the field of battle. The security fence didn’t make the sale.

He claims Bush was the prime cause of the defeat, yet Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham, Mark Foley and the bridge to nowhere all have Congressional fingerprints on them. The unease over Iraq – not having won by now – is as close as he connects to Bush. The war in Iraq was not “repudiated.” Pat doesn’t succeed in making the case that Bush is one of the top three reasons for the "thumping".

On Veterans Day Pat calls the war in Iraq “democratic imperialism.” What other conflicts fit Pat’s term?

Also, notice what Pat did not include in his definition of conservatism. Barely mentioned in his piece was the other half of his signature – economic nationalism. He knows thinking, growth-oriented conservatives reject this 75 year old snake-oil. If his performance in the next election peddling this issue matches his performance in this last one, how much "thumping" can Pat & the Republicans that let him do it take?

Lost in the fog
First, I'm with Peppermint; there is much going on to result on confusion.

MacZed has confirmed my opinion of Mr. Buchanan. His hatred of 'W' since Pat lost his own presidential bid has poisoned his mind.

The problem is
of course that now it's conservative judges who will get thumped. And any chance of secure borders. And any chance of victory -- yes, I said victory -- in Iraq.

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/11/loose-lips.html

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/11/epiphany.html

It was not, not, not Bush who got thumped. It wasn't even really Republicans. It was whatever desultory conservative causes those nominal Republicans could have and might have supported. Justice, you see, is not about "sending a message." That's what we call injustice. Justice is about the specifics of an individual case. This is the conservative view. America swung sharply to the left, for all that it voted for conservative measures. In repudiating a lackluster Republican party and an unpopular Bush, we handed the car keys over to the children. And the treasury keys. And the border gate keys -- if there were any.

Thumping is what little boy bullies do on schoolyards. It is a great thing to send a corrective message to Congress. A good way would have been through withheld campaign donations until they got it right. We don't have to hate the Dems.

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2006/11/shining.html

But we do not want them in power. Well, we didn't.


J

Freeway Sniper
Pat Buchanan is like a freeway sniper hiding in the rocks and bushes at the side of the road; shooting at the cars passing by. He has no idea of the consquences of his hits or misses;but it makes him feel important.So he sits there day by day firing away until he gets caught.Buchanan is a spoiled has been; who just muddies up the waters for his own inflated ego.I stopped paying attention to his rants a long time ago.He will never be president and it angers him.Pat hasn't had a good thing to say about the Republican party for years.I don't see how he supports the paty.As far as I can tell he has become more of a talking head for the MSM.They like Pat, because he just reinforces their stereotypes abuot the Republican party and the conservative movement.

Peppermint
"seems to have turned into a democrat over night."

You're joking, right? I can't count the times I've wanted to call Bush a RINO but didn't because I thought I'd be torn to shreds by everyone here. In fact, I think I actually did call him a RINO once and learned my lesson.

In fact
I distinctly recall a demand to know where Bush lost his testicles being met with everyone here wanting to know when I became a liberal, including Rose, Gunny, and BrianR.

How is this column worth 3 stars?

And why is this columnist thought of as a conservative? Benedict Arnold was more of a conservative.

Is Iran still next....?
I made a prediction a while back that sometime between this election and the one for the "big prize" in 2008, the United States (in collusion with the Government of Israel) were going to attack Iran.

I wonder where those plans are now?

jeruball of 3:24 AM
Thank you for leaving me out of the line up.

Agree with Pat.
It is what it is. The war in Iraq is an example of democratic imperialism. That was the reason for the invasion...to "democratize" Iraq so that it would serve as a model for other mideast nations to emulate. In WW2, we were committed to destroying nazism, fascism and Japanese imperalism. That was the role of the military. Only afterword did General MacArthur "make the Japanese an offer they could not refuse".
I guess I am from the old school. If American soldiers are going to possibly die in combat, and get their legs blown off, the sacrifice must be to preserve the security of the United States, and not to engage in some half-baked grandiose scheme to implant theories of democracy onto a people whose history and religious laws could well be incompatible to the concept. I see scant evidence that Islam accepts other belief-systems. Instead, the history of that religion, with few exceptions, is one of forced conversion to Islam, with people of the book(Jews and Christians)usually assigned a greatly inferior status(dhimmitude). In Iraq we should strive to bring about an Iraqi government that is not hostile to the U.S. That is a more realistic goal.
I totally agree, however, on the necessity of eradicating with extreme prejudice the very real threat Islamist radicalism poses to our existence.

Am I hearing things or what?
Did our president remark yesterday that history will judge, in the same light, the battle for Fallujah in today's Iraq war, with the Iwo Jima battle of WW2? Someone, please tell me he didn't say it!

Bush, a compassionate menace...
It's telling that Bush is now eager to compromise with Democrats, as if he hadn't been doing that already. I'm sure he's going to continue to screw us with his quasi-socialist policies in his last two years.

Reminder to Buchanans of this world
Pat Buchanan and Bob Novak and the like constantly undermined President Bush and the "neocon cabal" for trying to bring the hope to people living under oppressive regimes and backward religion.
You got your wish Pat: no more justices in the mold of Robers and Alito. No more principled stand (and veto) of embrionic stem cell research!
The people living under oppression (like the Hungarians and the Poles of some 50 years ago) can say to themselves: abandon your hope.

Free Trade Is Not Just Bush's Baby
Pat, you blame Bush for Walmart and the gutting of our manufacturing here at home. It started with Richard Nixon. Clinton continued it. It doesn't matter who is in charge, our government is selling us out.

Jerubaal: not me, buddy
I never castigated you for that, or said anything along those lines.

How many times have I said Bush needs to find his backbone, which seems to be hidden with the rumored Veto Pen?

I've always maintained Bush is good on a couple of issues, and very bad on many others.

Some don't get it
Everyone here writes as if conservatism represents the great American majority. Truth is, it ain't true. There are probably as many hard-core, maryjane chewin' liberals as there are deep-seated, scotch swizzlin' conservatives. I would put the numbers roughly at about 30%, each (with a plus or minus factor). Everyone else is some sort of mix ... a little liberal about some things, a little conservative about others, and never on the same things. Privacy matters tend to lean more to the liberal side, social issues & fiscal matters more to the conservative. But there are exceptions. Everyone wants what is best for their kids, everyone wants good health, clean air, and expects the water to flow from their tap (and the electricity from the socket) when they turn it on.

So ... because of this, we sway back and forth like deep ocean waves. Up and down, up and down, but never really going anywhere. We lean to the left, but if we lean too long or too hard, we crash back to the right. And vice versa ... as just happened.

Don't get me wrong. This is healthy ... otherwise Huey Long or Jim Jones or Eugene Debs would have alternated as Presidents, and we would be as unstable in social and political life as most of the other USA wannabe countries of the world already are. All I am saying is don't get your undies in a bunch because an awful lot of Republicans overstepped their stay in power, and thought they had a license to abuse it. Blatantly. From Lott to Abramoff to Duke to DeLay to Ney to Abramoff to Foley to secret energy deals to arrogance about the ease of winning a foolish war with high tech mobility to actually arguing about the "right" to torture human beings (regardless of how disgusting they might be) ... but it was Katrina -- or the perception of Katrina -- that really did in the Republican leadership (not that local Dems actually did a better job); there was a haughty air of arrogant aloofness before and immediately following the disaster, then America stood aghast as the "can-do" nation couldn't do it and hapless bureaucracy raised its ugly head, followed by an entire year of failed efforts to restore a once proud and lovely symbol of the greatness of our country. You may not like any of that, and maybe none of it happened quite that way ... but that is how it is perceived, and perception is 90% of reality.

A 2 year reconstruction effort.
Let the libs gloat; they've missed it for twelve years. Let them believe, as Dennis Kucinich has already said, that this was a monumental shift to the left. Conservatives should want them to herald their new "mandate" to take the country left. The last thing we want as conservatives, is for the dems to understand that they were not voted in but that rinos were voted out. After two years of Pelosi, Durbin, Kennedy, Biden,....
corralling their wayward bluedogs, this country will remember the old days. In short, 2 major victories will result:
(1) Election 2008 will sweep right.
(2) Remaining rinos will remember to "dance
with them who brung ya."




Bolshevik Spectre
There is a Bolshevik spectre haunting America---the Democrat Congress.

Shays:
Actually, the statistic I heard quoted on the radio yesterday is that the overall American populace is still 59% traditional values, i.e. primarily what should fall into the traditional conservative -- or conservative Republican -- camp.

The conservatives didn't run away from the Republicans; it was the Republicans who beat feet.

Another of that same set of stats is that there is only less than 10% who truly fall into the "undecided" category. Logically, this should lead to resounding Republican victories; and in fact it does, when they hew to conservative -- i.e. Reaganist/Contract with America -- principles.

Patriot's Game: That's my take, too
.

Scotch?
Who drinks Scotch? Most right wing rednecks drink beer.

BUSH SCUTTLED THE 'PUBS!
When the House 'Pubs bucked on President Bush's desire to grant amnesty and citizenship to 12 million illegals, President Bush, from that point on, did everything he could to SCUTTLE the Republican Party. He did this Knowing that the Democrats would hand him his Amnesty/Citizenship package on a silver platter for control of congress.

Bush jumped right into bed
with Harry and Nancy. Boy, what a menage a trois that makes.... And they think Foley was immoral!

Buck
You said it all.

Several folks have forgotten....
...what Bush ran on for president. Compassionate conservative, kinder and gentler America, etc.

What we do know is that Bush II was WAY better than Gore and Kerry. But we forgot that a Bush is only a "good" president for one term, then their brains overload and crash. Been there done that, twice now.

Unlike Pat B. I am sure the War was and is exactly the thing to do. First to split the islamic world physically with a democracy and second to prevent 20% of the worlds' oil from coming under more terrorist control. What better place to do this? Breaking the mold in Iraq can put a democratic-progressive secular cancer in the middle east that can rot their culture just like it has done to europe and america.

Keeping oil in relatively free hands maintains freedom and economic stability world-wide.

But why did the Republicans lose? The war has somewhat stalled, the border fence came too little and too late(and maybe never). Campaign finace was signed by Bush, President Fox was Bush's best buddy while invading the southern states. The bridge too far and billions in earmarks, defended by Republicans as being what everyone does, marked them as just as corrupt as any anyone and arrogant about it!

Bush accepted Katrina as his fault instead of firing the moron in charge and highlighting the horrendous faults of the local and state governments there. Bush's 'broad shoulders' put new light to errors of cronyism which now are believed to be rampant across his entire administration. Remember Harriet Miers (sp?)?

"Republicans" are not seen as Conservative any more, just politicans. We got two seemingly good judges but the fillibuster on judges stays a part of the Senate because the Repubs never fought the fight, while convincing us they would have won the fight. They woosed out of it.

Tax cuts that term out? John Bolton can't get confirmed? The UN sucking money and giving us the Chavez finger at the same time? Kissing up to the Palistinians after we found out the US gives the sucicide-bombing supporters hundreds of millions each year, for decades? Arafat's widow is sitting on billions of American dollars in PARIS?!?

Prescription Drug Plan to bankrupt the planet! No economic remedy to the nosedive Social Security is coming to? No hope for the Social Security retirement investment alternatives for the next generations?

Republicans were NEVER in charge of the House or Senate or much of the National Agenda. They got jack done with the 6 years and majority. I believe that and their cowardice in action lost american support more than anything else. They did not earn our respect.

In the end, the tired phrase "the other side is worse" didn't hold water any more. The fear factor was moot, we already had given in almost completely to the Dems so what did it matter?







Many Great Comments

.....kudos to MacZed ...Silicondoc ...jerabaub..

.....To all the conservatives on TH who wanted to teach the GOP a lesson by getting out of the game and sitting on the sidelines...I hate to say it but...I TOLD YOU SO...

.....In addition to throwing good men like George Allen ...Rick Santorum ...J.D. Hayworth etal...under the bus...we have turned the reigns of government over to Marxists...

.....yes Marxists...if you take the time to read the Manifesto of the Progressive Caucus and the Communist Manifesto you will find many disturbing similarities...this makes the Dem/Libs an enemy far more dangerous than Islam in my opinion...

.....we have killed the conservative agenda for a minimum of at least two years and worst case scenario...a decade...no more conservative justices ...no more dreams of overturning Roe vs Wade ...no more chance of cutting the size of government ...cutting spending ...cutting taxes...I can't believe that some of us could be so petulant and shortsighted to do this to ourselves.....COLOSSUS

r0_d2

Thank you for your comments but I will stand on my conservative ideals. I learned from the Book and it teaches us to stand on truth. Even when we've been beaten, we will yet stand, for the only other option is to fall.

You on the other hand by your embrace of liberalism prove you will/do fall for anything.

Now, run along home.

Oh really ?
Conservative Ideals are dead ? BS !! The constitution still means what it says... The living-breathing edition ain't been published yet.. Conservatism is not dead...

Pelosovich not the big winner
No, San Fran Nan was not the big winner on Tuesday. Already the Waxman Committee is preparing to dump hearing after hearing on us over perceived Republican transgressions. When the voters realize that the Democratic Plan was to dump on Republicans and offer nothing of substance to the problems confronting this nation, they will in the next two and four years put Mr. Waxman back into ranking minority member again.
The real winner on Tuesday was John McCain. McCain, who never misses an opportunity to prance in front of the national media, has pretty much been the primus inter pares of Republican Senatorial mulch. He and the gang of 14 demonstrated Bill Frist's impotence as Senate ML, when they rode to the rescue of the Democrats who were about to have their filibustering ways ended permanently. Had Frist had some cajones, he would have axed filibustering early on and would today be McCain's leading opponent for the GOP Presidential fight.
George Allen shot himself in the mouth and never recovered to even win his seat, so his Presidentila ambitions are Gone With The Wind. So to, is Rick Santorum, although Rick went down in flames courageously and did not deserve to lose to one of the worst candidates for office I've ever seen. Score another win for "Here's Johnnnnnnnyyyyyyyy!"
McCain has also signed onto other odious legislation having to do with so-calle campaign reform and his Piece de Resistance, amnesty for illegal aliens.
While Hillary will get a committee to oppose her run for the Oval Office [stained by her husband], McCain has no Republican of national stature to oppose him. He's like the cornerback who intercepts a pass and has a clear path all the way to the end zone. As you stand over the corpus delecti of Allen, Santorum, and Frist, name one nationally recognized Republican leader who can match McCain? Newt? He pulls 3% and is out of the limelight [i.e., anybody who doesn't watch Fox News]. Who is there? Nobody. God help us all!

Terms of Surrender For Mexico
I cannot believe the results of the recent election, which has handed control of our government over to the Democrats.
I have anxiously awaited the analysis from Patrick J. Buchanan, and his article has not disappointed me. Those arrogant RINO's, posing as RINO hunters, finally got their come-uppance; but from whom?
Certainly, Pat Buchanan did NOTHING to sabotage George W. Bush's career. He accomplished that all by his little lonesome, what with his absurd desert-mirage vision of a "nation-building" for ingrates scheme.
Perhaps such political upheavals are merely a force of nature, which periodically comes to the fore. On the other hand, perhaps the American people are bound and determined to rein-in this vainglorious, imperial presidency of "Dubya."
What we have seen--the people and the political pundits--is a president who makes big plans for abolishing our borders, in the name of a North American Union, modeled on "Old Europe." In addition, he finds it necessary to thwart the will of the American people by importing 66 million Mestizo "guest workers," the same way King George III imported Hessians to thwart the self-determination of the American colonists. The American people were never consulted as to whether we thought it a good idea to see our nation bisected by a new highway--enabled by the abolition of private proerty rights, via Justice David Souter. We were not consulted about anything this behind- closed-doors administaration has cooked up for us, most notably the sunset of the United States, and eclipse of America as a superpower.
It is plain to this writer that George W. Bush is stuck on stupid, and it makes no sense to blame the Buchanan contingent, for we are always loyal conservatives, and proud Americans. Those who follow Buchanan are not defeatist, for we believe in fighting on the home front, to preserve this nation from the onslaught of the Third World. Our agenda is a conservative one, modeled on Reagan and Goldwater.
We would never cut off our own nose to spite our face! so all of the jackals on this post, who are now making ad hominem arguments against Buchanan, could more gainfully employ themselves by reading his marvelous books, rather than criticizing their intellectual superior.
As for the "president," he must answer to the American people on why we need to abolish our borders, to accommodate the vision of big business for unlimited slave labor. This president has gone far beyond his job description, in the effort to insure his own apotheosis, as a "Decider." The job has really gone to his head!
Bush has unilaterally "decided" that the United States of America should become an economic trade zone, with no cohesive culture or borders. He is a globalist, who would be the father of the "New World Order," dedicated to Big Brother.
George W. Bush--as evidenced by his actions--has committed treason against the people of the United States of America. That is why our party went down in flames.
Anytime a half million man, Mexican guerrilla army feels bold enough to make exorbitant demands for dual citizenship in our city streets, while at the same time holding up banners which proclaim: "This is our continent--not yours;" any "war president" worth his salt, would "decide" to thwart invasion--not enable it with a guest worker program for illegal invaders.
The world has now seen the disastrous consequence of allowing guest workers to infiltrate a host culture. All across Europe may be seen the chaos imposed by transplanted Islamists, who impose their barbarism on civilization. In Holland, Theo Van Gogh was murdered for expresing an opinion. In France and Germany, cities have been torched by "guest workers." In Spain, trains have been blown up by guest worker terrorists, and of course there is the legacy of 9-11, to remind America of immigration policies which are far too liberal. Thus can be seen the devastating impact when the Third World meets the First World on a "level playing field." Guest worker morphs into a parasitic invader who has come to supplant the host culture.
The president is stuck on stupid, for he touts a war--which he keeps his own kids out of--which bleeds this nation dry. In the meantime, he fails to fathom that Mexico has systematically broken into, occupied, and attempted to annex American territory, in the name of "Reconquista."
Our stupid-idiot-of-a-president is still talking "guest workers," when he should be discussing terms of surrender for Mexico, in this Second Mexican War. He fails to realize that it is NOT A QUESTION OF GUESTWORKERS, but one of invasion and attempted partition of the United States of America.
Our leaders have no clue on how to deal with Mexico, North Korea, Red China, or Iran. The American people--for their part--are under full assault from all corners of the globe. We see our jobs and livelihoods outsourced to foregin shores. We see the massive importation of foreign workers under visa programs, and finally we see the exodus of our factors of production, and industrial capability sent directly to Red China--which has already threatened us with nuclear annihilation. There is no member of the Bush regime, who has supported the American worker. Instead we have seen the theatrics of fools like John McCain, who holds up a head of lettuce, to posture and lecture the American people that we "can't compete" in the New World Order.
Maybe the American people have finally decided--subconsciously--that we will not become proles in the One World Government crafted for us by big business, via the Bush administration.
Anytime an American president regards himself as the lawgiver, rather than being subject to the law, there will be a reckoning. George W. Bush has met his Waterloo, and now the chickens have come home to roost.
Bush got "thumped," by a deliberate and revolutionary people, who are not interested in seeing their country sold down the river to corporate interests, nor in abdicating or sharing it with a Mexican slave class, which comes to supplant us.
Our message to both parties is this: We will not allow any illegal alien to demand alleged "rights," dual American citizenship, or any influence on American political life or culture. They do not belong here in any capacity. This common sense guideline is lost on the buffoons who call themselves our leaders.
It is of the utmost importance that the United States and Mexico enter a new era of friendship, common economic and security cooperation, and joint business ventures. We need Mexico as our dearest friend, but all of these good things cannot come to pass, as long as Mexico is under the illusion that it has any right to the American Southwest. Mexico must be informed that its guerrilla invasion of the United States has failed, and that the only politicaly correct movement now, is to surrender to the reality that our borders will never be handed over to a hostile foreign power.
Mexico is under many illusions--including ideas about legalizing drugs--because they are a chaotic, failed nation. The Mexican nation needs to recognize that the Anglo-Saxon race is not dying out, and that if they come here as a conqueror, demanding any concession, they will be soundly rebuffed.

My fondest hope for the Republican Party, is that it will now come back to its roots of conservatism, to save the day in 2008.
Pat Buchanan is our REAL PRESIDENT. Buchanan/Tancredo for 2008!

Terms of Surrender For Mexico
I cannot believe the results of the recent election, which has handed control of our government over to the Democrats.
I have anxiously awaited the analysis from Patrick J. Buchanan, and his article has not disappointed me. Those arrogant RINO's, posing as RINO hunters, finally got their come-uppance; but from whom?
Certainly, Pat Buchanan did NOTHING to sabotage George W. Bush's career. He accomplished that all by his little lonesome, what with his absurd desert-mirage vision of a "nation-building" for ingrates scheme.
Perhaps such political upheavals are merely a force of nature, which periodically comes to the fore. On the other hand, perhaps the American people are bound and determined to rein-in this vainglorious, imperial presidency of "Dubya."
What we have seen--the people and the political pundits--is a president who makes big plans for abolishing our borders, in the name of a North American Union, modeled on "Old Europe." In addition, he finds it necessary to thwart the will of the American people by importing 66 million Mestizo "guest workers," the same way King George III imported Hessians to thwart the self-determination of the American colonists. The American people were never consulted as to whether we thought it a good idea to see our nation bisected by a new highway--enabled by the abolition of private proerty rights, via Justice David Souter. We were not consulted about anything this behind- closed-doors administaration has cooked up for us, most notably the sunset of the United States, and eclipse of America as a superpower.
It is plain to this writer that George W. Bush is stuck on stupid, and it makes no sense to blame the Buchanan contingent, for we are always loyal conservatives, and proud Americans. Those who follow Buchanan are not defeatist, for we believe in fighting on the home front, to preserve this nation from the onslaught of the Third World. Our agenda is a conservative one, modeled on Reagan and Goldwater.
We would never cut off our own nose to spite our face! so all of the jackals on this post, who are now making ad hominem arguments against Buchanan, could more gainfully employ themselves by reading his marvelous books, rather than criticizing their intellectual superior.
As for the "president," he must answer to the American people on why we need to abolish our borders, to accommodate the vision of big business for unlimited slave labor. This president has gone far beyond his job description, in the effort to insure his own apotheosis, as a "Decider." The job has really gone to his head!
Bush has unilaterally "decided" that the United States of America should become an economic trade zone, with no cohesive culture or borders. He is a globalist, who would be the father of the "New World Order," dedicated to Big Brother.
George W. Bush--as evidenced by his actions--has committed treason against the people of the United States of America. That is why our party went down in flames.
Anytime a half million man, Mexican guerrilla army feels bold enough to make exorbitant demands for dual citizenship in our city streets, while at the same time holding up banners which proclaim: "This is our continent--not yours;" any "war president" worth his salt, would "decide" to thwart invasion--not enable it with a guest worker program for illegal invaders.
The world has now seen the disastrous consequence of allowing guest workers to infiltrate a host culture. All across Europe may be seen the chaos imposed by transplanted Islamists, who impose their barbarism on civilization. In Holland, Theo Van Gogh was murdered for expresing an opinion. In France and Germany, cities have been torched by "guest workers." In Spain, trains have been blown up by guest worker terrorists, and of course there is the legacy of 9-11, to remind America of immigration policies which are far too liberal. Thus can be seen the devastating impact when the Third World meets the First World on a "level playing field." Guest worker morphs into a parasitic invader who has come to supplant the host culture.
The president is stuck on stupid, for he touts a war--which he keeps his own kids out of--which bleeds this nation dry. In the meantime, he fails to fathom that Mexico has systematically broken into, occupied, and attempted to annex American territory, in the name of "Reconquista."
Our stupid-idiot-of-a-president is still talking "guest workers," when he should be discussing terms of surrender for Mexico, in this Second Mexican War. He fails to realize that it is NOT A QUESTION OF GUESTWORKERS, but one of invasion and attempted partition of the United States of America.
Our leaders have no clue on how to deal with Mexico, North Korea, Red China, or Iran. The American people--for their part--are under full assault from all corners of the globe. We see our jobs and livelihoods outsourced to foregin shores. We see the massive importation of foreign workers under visa programs, and finally we see the exodus of our factors of production, and industrial capability sent directly to Red China--which has already threatened us with nuclear annihilation. There is no member of the Bush regime, who has supported the American worker. Instead we have seen the theatrics of fools like John McCain, who holds up a head of lettuce, to posture and lecture the American people that we "can't compete" in the New World Order.
Maybe the American people have finally decided--subconsciously--that we will not become proles in the One World Government crafted for us by big business, via the Bush administration.
Anytime an American president regards himself as the lawgiver, rather than being subject to the law, there will be a reckoning. George W. Bush has met his Waterloo, and now the chickens have come home to roost.
Bush got "thumped," by a deliberate and revolutionary people, who are not interested in seeing their country sold down the river to corporate interests, nor in abdicating or sharing it with a Mexican slave class, which comes to supplant us.
Our message to both parties is this: We will not allow any illegal alien to demand alleged "rights," dual American citizenship, or any influence on American political life or culture. They do not belong here in any capacity. This common sense guideline is lost on the buffoons who call themselves our leaders.
It is of the utmost importance that the United States and Mexico enter a new era of friendship, common economic and security cooperation, and joint business ventures. We need Mexico as our dearest friend, but all of these good things cannot come to pass, as long as Mexico is under the illusion that it has any right to the American Southwest. Mexico must be informed that its guerrilla invasion of the United States has failed, and that the only politicaly correct movement now, is to surrender to the reality that our borders will never be handed over to a hostile foreign power.
Mexico is under many illusions--including ideas about legalizing drugs--because they are a chaotic, failed nation. The Mexican nation needs to recognize that the Anglo-Saxon race is not dying out, and that if they come here as a conqueror, demanding any concession, they will be soundly rebuffed.

My fondest hope for the Republican Party, is that it will now come back to its roots of conservatism, to save the day in 2008.
Pat Buchanan is our REAL PRESIDENT. Buchanan/Tancredo for 2008!

you are all overreacting
The election was an average midterm election and yet you are all reading all kinds of consequences into it. Headlines proclaim "Bush Doctrine is over." Oh, yes, that is because he nominated Gates. Gates is a bureaucrat and as such will do as Bush wants. Gates is cover. And besides when did Buchanan become anything but a flamethrower? Hs he offered anything positive?

They thought; Sky was blue in US only.
They thought; Sky was blue in US only. This made Neocons arrogant and ignorant.

United States is just finished with their mid-term election; this was very much predicted that Conservative will loose their majority hold in both the houses. Neocons are the victim of their own follies; to run the policy of ‘Fallacy and Deception’ which resulted into their colossal failure on all fronts. There were last minute efforts seen; to hoke up the public by creating Islamist extremism issue in American society. Timing of Saddam Husain court verdict in Iraq; just two days before the election and extensively high lighting of sentencing of ‘would-be Al-Qaeda executioner’ in UK; were very skill fully floated as additional opinion harvesters but all… in vain. In order to save the day; many a websites supported by conservative; also remained extensively busy in propagating the Neocons ideology. They are designed to spread misinformation and are instigating people to rabble rouse against Muslims living in the western society.

Ever since the collapse and departure of Soviet Union from world’s scene; USA being the lone super power is busy with their adventure of greater scheme known as ‘Project for New American century’. It is to avail US hegemony in Middle East and to bring the area of world economic resources in American fold by means of force; It is taking the world for a big ride and an all out war in the name of ‘Global war on terror’ is declared. Israel is placed here, to be a ‘resident western agent’, bullying around and engineering the webs of deceit on behalf of US. An archaic and savage exercise of subjugation and emasculation of the inhabitants and their rulers is relentlessly on.

It is very much evident now that Iraq was attacked on a false pertinence. US forces are on their rampage there and are in its continuous occupation; on very flimsy grounds. Eyes are set to bring down; the next neighbouring regime Iran… into US folds. But this phase is proving to be difficult one: rather its making even the US hold in Iraq; very tenuous.

Like wise, Alqaeda was blamed for 9/11 issue. 9/11 attack, required a huge technical support and a vast net work to execute it. This is also beyond the comprehension of common folks in the street; to believe that a bunch of terrorist groups sitting in the wilderness of Afghanistan; a retrograde, undeveloped country, where; even to fetch a coca cola can is a Hercules job; were able to get it executed so precisely. This has also become a most controversial issue; for Neocons to make the people believe in their claim.

The plan of ‘Global war on terror’ is very tactfully induced in war theatre through a well measured scheme of ‘Nihilism’ by the think tanks of the campaign. It is very complex and well spread for common folks to understand,

There seems to be two sides of a coin of this scheme…. One side of coin is for the consumption of public at home (in the west). General public is kept in the dark, scared and fearful all the times, through the magic of media. It is common practice to report; a particular news on media with the well-chosen interpretation in the light of terrorism, rather than objective one, and with the little means left for public to confirm the authenticity, (a form of yellow journalism). Public is lead to believe this fallacy in the name of their freedom and endeared western life style. They are made to accept, the thrusting and wielding of political power and agenda of ruling parties behind all this. Killing and committal of atrocities by western forces in troubled theatres, coming to surface are also justified on a divisive concocted, moral ground of...‘safe guard of western interests and security.’

Where as the other side of story is very horrific and disturbing. Extent of actions taken on this side can be best described in words of a renowned author, Ralph Peters; “The defector role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those end, we will do a fair amount of killing”

It is all but chaos and nihilism found, every where in Middle Eastern theatre.
Anarchy, killing, deprivation and subjugation of destitute people out there are the salient of horrific exercises being carried out; Life is but a misery.

Under the policy of divide and rule, local decedents and insurgent groups are unduly given leverage. A Spree of sectarian revenge killings and insurgent bombings is widely sponsored and promoted. After creation of anarchy, the oppressing foreign forces, fully armed, can move around freely carrying out raids and killing at mass scale; destroying indiscriminately, every thing in sight and in range in the name of restoring peace and order.

The pretext of ‘global war on terror’ is giving them a free hand to commit all sorts of atrocities in the lands declared hostile. Any local group emerging to resent or undo the shackles of oppressor is branded as terrorist and is eliminated. This is a never ending game. The aim of all this exercise is to wade through and prolong the stay; to push forward the master agenda.

A superficial effort to blemish Islam; is just to spread ignorance and pitch the different societies; against each other. Judaic, Christian and Muslim are one; worshiping one God Almighty; our creator, the most merciful and beneficent. Judaic after having been reformed by Jesus; took the shape of Christianity. These both denominations are the stepping stones to reach up for the summit where; Islam awaits, as a benefactor for the mankind.

You can accept Islam as an eternal truth; or mock it or malign it; or even spread the webs to misguide the people to rabble rouse against it. If it’s God’s design and its predecessor denomination; Christianity could survive and flourish against all the odds… for so many centuries; Islam must also for sure; prevail over all the previous denominations because; stepping out toward Islam is; as going out for higher spiritual education. The more we may malign and press it down; it will spring up and emerge more…gloriously.

We in the bliss and comforts of our safe western environment tend to remain in delusion but out their; even the common ‘donkey cart rider’ under stands this scheme of subjugation and ‘Nihilism’ very well.

This is mere, a bloody bout in play between oppressed and oppressor. Religion has got nothing to do with this.
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Love for all, Hatred for none

My $.02
After 40 years of Democrats controlling the house, I never dreamed that I would live to see Republicans in charge of both houses and the presidency. What a wasted oppoturnity. If they had had the balls they could have reversed 40 years of liberlism. They could have:
1. Eliminated worhless departments like the Dept. of Education. Returned education back to the states and local jurisdictions where it belongs.
2. Rewritten tax policies, eliminated the IRS.
3. Cut wasteful spending in all braches of government.
4. Reformed our justice system and institued tort reform.
5. Reduced or eliminated our involvement in the usless United Nations. If nothing else kick the UN out of the U. S.
6. They could have totally eliminated the illegal alien issue by throwing a few CEO's in prison and placing huge million dollar fines on companies who hire them.
I could go on but the bottom line is Republicans had every opportunity but when you come down to it they just didn't have the balls to perform. In 1994 Rush Limbaugh spoke to the incoming Freshmen and he warned them not to be concerned with what the liberal press said about them. Do your job and forget being friends with the press. Unfortunately the Republican leadership caved everythime the press critized them. Remember the government shutdown. Had Newt held the line Clinton would have been crippled and conservatives would have owned Washington. Unfotunately, it takes men with balls and the Republican never had any.

Yes, By All Means--More Thumpings
Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time~George S Patton

EVERYBODY!!!
The Open Borders Crowd...which our digusting 'el presidente' is at the helm, will ONLY stop the happy marriage if we SCREAM AND YELL LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING.

You MUST join http://www.numbersusa.com

Fax, call, fax, write, fax fax fax and don't let up.

Tell everyone..especially the Dems who won by 'claiming' a strong stance on the illegal invasion...that you expect them to keep their promises.

This is what many of us were ranting about. I don't really care a fig who's in Congress except for this issue. When you've got a creep like Bush touting his North American Union and wanting to welcome the destruction of our country (I really think he did this on purpose).. then the only thing left is to continue to SCREAM that amnesty is NOT what we want.

That man and his ilk cannot be trusted.

I hope he gets impeached...I really do.

Maybe they'll be too busy to pass the horrific bill...because you can undo some bad stuff...but not that.

Revolutionary...
That's exactly why I think he should be impeached.
I've gone from voting for him twice to hoping that he does get impeached.

How DARE he refuse to listen to us?

free trade
craigc your right about that, but thats what we get with a two party choice. I thing it's just great when you have to go to the poles and then decide between the less of two evils. Both parties say they care but, the only concern they have is keeping thier party in power and we take the back seat once there in.

NO MORE BUSHES
While Republican leadership in the Congress was weak and ineffective, Bush and Rove have consistently undermined conservatives during Bush's terms. And Bush naively believes the left will like him if he's nice to them. The left isn't going to change. They've already told Bush what to expect; i.e., judicial appointments, Bolton, etc. And conservatives have little reason to believe Bush. Regarding immigration, he did nothing, even less than Clinton, to control it for 5 years. If Bush keeps sticking it to conservatives, with the help of his new "friends" controlling the Congress, other Republicans of his ilk will hear from the people in future primaries. Bush Jr. has been slightly better than Bush Sr. But please - NO MORE BUSHES!!!

'06 Election Winner - President Bush
President Bush came out the winner at the cost of the GOP. He will get his amnesty program passed, kill the fence project, and get a Sandra Day on the bench or (hopefully) another "not sure what they said" conservative judge. He now can look more to history and less to a divided GOP. At one Veto so far, we cannot hope for him to keep anything in check.


Revolutionary
I not only agree with you but I will add;

We are faced with not half million guerillas but we have been invaded by close to 12 Million Lawbreaking Illegals who are ARMED TO THE TEETH!
And I know this because for a number of years I lived in a metro area neighborhood populated mostly by illegals. So I got to know a bunch of them. The first thing an illegal buys when he gets a paycheck is a Pistol. Favorite is the 9mm Automatic. This even though there are gun laws prohibiting non residents purchasing firearms, not to mention felons and aliens. They might purchase a peecup trocko first, if they and 7 or 8 of their buddies renting the 2 bedroom apartment need a ride to steal someone else's job. But you can bet your azz they will purchase the pistol before they buy insurance on their pickup truck. I know that, too, from all the folks who have automobile accidents with illegals (who are usually DUI) and the illegals make bond and disappear forever from the scene; probably to show up in a totally different geographical area with a new name and someone else's social security card.
So we are faced with an INVASION by 12 Million areme people who break any and every law which causes them inconvenience. The President wants to give these people citizenship and now it looks like he has the correct party in power to do that.
That is why I said the President SCUTTLED the Republican Party after the Representatives stood up to him on the illegal issue. He scuttled his own party in favor of the Dems knowing full well they would give him his amnesty/citizenship in return for control of congress.

I Don't Belong to The PITY PARTY.
___ What a bunch of Monday mourning crybabies!!

___ What I keep hearing from you guys is what OTHERS did or didn't do. Sure, you're correct about the facts and first order consequences for America. BUT, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STOP GETTING MAD AND START GETTING ORGANIZED TO FLUSH OUT THE LIBERALS?

___ Look, political parties have no inherent animus or morality that is not brought to them by their constituents. They are complex machines that have one major purpose and that is to elect people to power. Today, in America, a third party can't challenge the existing major parties for a host of reasons - many legal and some simply logistical and financial. You know this (and so does Ross Perot, now).

___ The Marxists refined the the process of highjacking an existing party (i.e. the Kerensky led Socialists) and moved on to other cultures, including ours. They infiltrated our colleges - especially those teaching writers, teachers and journalists (to be useful idiots). From there they sought control of mainstream media - TV, movies, newsrooms etc. All the better to paper over America with propaganda. And to implement power, they chose the party with populist credentials and allied labor unions. Right, you guessed it, the Democrats. That took longer, but they were patient. They were prepping the seedbed of public opinion and the PC results would show up in time. And so they have!

___ The emerging American culture had something going for it - the truth and a far better model for organizing human society BUT it was largely ad Hoc although buttressed by the social contracts implicit in the Judeo-Christian traditions of our churches and synagogues. The political immune response to Marxism was disorganized at first, but became what is called Conservatism today. And is still unsynchronized but loosely cohesive within the Republican Party today. This was less by plan initially, but grew as Bluedog Democrats came over to the only party that welcomed loyal and traditional Americans. (For a more complete and well researched article please go to TCS Daily: http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=091206D and read Ryan H. Sager's 9/12/2006 article "Is There an Elephant in Here?"

___ On one hand, the Marxist/liberals are quite cohesive, disciplined and expedient while conservatives are independent as hogs on ice, often incoherent and far more focused on principles than tactics. They promise pie in the sky and warm fuzzy logic. We speak of personal discipline and promise blood, sweat and tears. Theirs is the paradigm of the sweet smelling Venus flytrap and Rock Candy Mountain. Ours is that of the intrepid pioneer overcoming hardship and adversity. Artificial sweeteners sell themselves. Selling self-reliance and minimal government takes scientific knowledge, reason and a fairly deep historical perspective. And that takes a good educational system - K thru 16. And that we don't have.

___ To expect politicians to get too far in front of their perceived constituency is to believe in Santa Claus. And if I remember correctly, Christmas is a short holiday. If you don't like opportunistic RINOs, prepare the seedbed so that they believe that conservative values are the winning combination. Get involved in your school board, your local Republican Party and get really committed conservatives nominated and elected in the primary. Then do basic, person-to-person precinct politics in your neighborhood.

___ After the election, keep on reaching out to neighbors and write letters. A typed and signed letter is seen as representing the opinion of 25 other constituents. And as such, a firm but polite message is a great force multipier. Don't elect and forget! When your CongressCritter does good, a short note saying "Attaboy!" is well deserved and appreciated. It's called feedback. Ask if you can help organize for the next election. That really gets their attention. They need volunteers more than money. Besides, local politics is usually fun and a great way to meet your townfolk.

___ This challenge to restore the public understanding of our cultural identity and its political structure is basic to restoring our government to its originalist bedrock and small government principles. But it won't happen by itself. It will take a lot of effort over a long time to bring it about. Is the pity party over, guys? Are you mad enough to get out from behind the keyboard and organize? You've got the knowledge, you know the reasons. It's time to be large and take charge.

Welcome to my foxhole. Yours in Liberty, Mac

RE: I Do Not Belong To A Pitty Party
Neither do I. Facts are facts.

CraigC
Beer is the hunting, fishing, camping and outdoors party beverage.

Scotch is the best at 2 a.m. low lights, Julie London or Diana Krall on the stereo.

Scotch is also great before backyard steak/baked potato cookout. Of course beer is the drink with the finished product.

Trivia...know why there are 18 holes on a golf course?

answer tomorrow....

Of Neo-Conservatism
"Jacob Hornberger, the president of the Future of Freedom Foundation, recently asked some pertinent questions about the Republicans:

How many departments were abolished when Republicans controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress?
How many agencies?
How many spending bills were vetoed?
How many pork-barrel projects were jettisoned?
How much was federal spending reduced?"

Difference Between Scotch and Beer
Beer drunkens, while Scotch lifts the spirit.
Beer (more appropriately, ale) is for the day, Scotch is for the night
Beer is for boys, Scotch for men

Of course the evangelicals who dominate this site don't know the difference. . . it's all Devil's water, right?

Mac
You're right, the first step is to purge the Marxist/Liberals from the Republican Pary. I offer this proscription list:

Cheney
Wolfowitz
Perle
Kristol
McCain
Podhoretz
Goldberg
Kagan
Bennet
Boot
Kirkpatrick
Rumsfeld

As traitors to the Republican Party, and more importantly, the American Republic, we should not rest until their heads are displayed on stakes by the Reflecting Pool in the National Mall.

Providus
To your A-holes list, do not forget the likes of Goober Graham; McCain certainly deserves to be retired just as Chaffee and DeWine were and hopefully the list will expand for the rest of the Gang of 14.

Message to Peppermint
Repubs have become liberals.
As a conservative I will be voting Libertarian from now on, unless the Repubs return to fiscal conservatism.

BrianR
My mistake, sorry.

Libertarian?
Libertarian believe in less government but are all over the board in everything else. I could be wrong. I prefer the Constitution Party (or referred to as the Conservative Party on Election Day by MSNBC).

I really do not see the Republicans becoming fiscal responsible. They know they are the only show in town for conservatives.

The problem with any third party is that they have to run like a outsider and for a outsider to have any chance is spend more money. When Pat ran, the Reform Party spent millions with little result if none long term.

providus
I will agree with everything except "beer is for boys". As a matter of fact I am enjoying a Scotch and Soda right now....I still say God must have been a Scotsman...at one time or another. Let the evangelicals wrestle with that one for awhile....

Bush Administration, Dying at the Border
http://www.controlcongress.com

This is from “Skeptical Economist”. This is the one of the best articles I have ever read on economics and illegal immigration.

It is no secret that the Bush administration is failing and failing badly. The woes of the administration are legion, Iraq, immigration, the economy, Katrina, health care, gasoline prices, etc. The impact on public opinion is profound. Bush is well on his way to being one of the least popular presidents in U.S. history. His current popularity rating of 31% may be a high water mark. The twenties and perhaps teens are not that far off. Increasingly he has lost, not just liberals and mainstream Americans, but conservatives as well. The key question is why? Why has this once promising administration gone downhill so far and so fast? Is it just bad luck or is their a deeper force at work? In my view, the ideology and practice of Open Borders has condemned this president to complete failure. Could the Bush administration turn itself around by changing its stance on immigration? Yes, but it is exceedingly unlikely to happen. Bush is doomed and may not finish his term in office.

It is clear that the immigration polices of this administration are deeply unpopular and contrary to what the public wants. Clearly, immigration is contributing mightily to the low standing of this president. However, immigration is also directly responsible for the economic failings of this president and is (one step removed) also responsible for the debacle in Iraq. Immigration is also partially responsible for all of the other problems (Kartrina, gasoline prices, health care, Dubai ports, etc.). The links between immigration and what ails Bush (and America) are explained in more detail below. What should be clear by the end, is that immigration is either directly or partially for everything (and there is a lot) that is weighing down this president.

The immigration failures of this administration are obvious. The border is totally out of control and Bush completely refuses to even try to control it. Ordinary Americans are demanding immigration control and Bush has abandoned even the pretense of enforcing our laws (by some measures enforcement has declined by 95% at least, but other measures 100%). Ordinary Americans fiercely resent illegal aliens taking over their neighborhoods, jobs, and schools. Bush actually proposed legislation to replace every American worked with a foreigner who would do the same job for less (the “willing worker” program).

To call the administration out of touch on immigration would be an injustice to the language. Polls show strong support for greatly intensified enforcement. Bush is still trying to have the Kennedy Amnesty bill passed. Why the administration is so committed to policies that the American people regard as toxic is another matter. However, the reality of a president at war with his own people on this issue, should not be in doubt. Astoundingly, Zogby finds that only 17% of Americans approve of Bush’s immigration policies (7). On border security, Bush gets a 16% approval rating.

Immigration is also responsible for Bush’s economic woes. Superficially the economy should be a source of considerable strength for Bush. The high level numbers are actually rather good. Unemployment is down to 4.6% from a peak of 6.3% in June of 2003. GDP growth in Q1 2006 was 4.8%. The economy grew by 2.7% in 2003, 4.2% in 2004, and 3.5% in 2005. The Dow Jones Industrial Average has rallied from a low of 7286 on October 9th, 2002 to a recent high of 11,643 on May 10, 2006. That a gain of 59.8% in less than four years. The S&P is up 57.25% in the same period. Definitely a lot for investors to cheer about, particularly in the aftermath of the Tech Bubble and corporate scandals (Enron, Tyco, Health South, etc.).

The zooming stock market has reflected fast rising corporate profits. Pretax profits bottomed out at $714 billion (annual rate) in 3Q2001 and have since risen to $1,293 billion in 3Q2005 (not adjusted for inflation) (11). As a percent of GDP profits have grown from 7.0% of GDP (3Q2001) to a peak of 10.9% of GDP in 2Q2005 (down to 10.3% in 3Q2005). At 10.9% of GDP, corporate profits were higher than any year since 1968.

The productivity numbers have also been very, very good. Nonfarm productivity has risen by 17% or more since 2001. What the BLS calls multifactor productivity is up almost 8% since 2000. Per-worker/GDP is perhaps the broadest measure of productivity growth. In chained 2000 dollars, per-worker GDP is up by 8.73%. CPI-U adjusted, per-worker GDP has grown by 7.95%. The strong growth in productivity has almost completely offset nominal wage growth. Unit labor costs have only risen by 4.3% since 2001 (9).

Of course, Americans haven’t been shy about spending under Bush. Indeed, it’s been party time for several years as anyone who travels or frequents upscale restaurants can attest. The number tell the same happy story. Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) rose by 15.64% from 1Q2001 to 4Q2005. Not bad given that GDP only rose by 13.9% in the same five years (13).

As you can see it is easy to come up with a whole panoply of good economic news. But still… The American people just don’t agree. Poll after poll give gloomy views on the economy. Indeed 59% of Americans rate the economy as only “fair” or “poor” (8). Is the public wrong? Deluded? Confused by liberals? Where it only so. The sad truth is that the economic boom has passed the American people by. Indeed, they are suffering more from the backwash of inflated prices than enjoying any of the fruits. Why? As is all too frequently the case, Open Borders is killing the American Dream by making sure that only immigrants (legal and illegal) and the elites get richer while ordinary Americans get poorer.

This is not some liberal/left-wing fantasy. Indeed the left goes to great pains to avoid using the “I” word when they are talking about jobs/wages/incomes. The sad reality is that from the standpoint of ordinary working Americans, the economy is weak, at best. Some of the facts are downright scary. For example, only 9% of the new jobs created from 2000 to 2005 when to the American people even though Americans accounted for 61% of adult population growth (1). Worse, labor force participation has been falling since Bush took office (10). In January of 2001, it was 67.2%. Now it is 66.1%. You have to go back to the first days of the Clinton administration to find numbers this low (actually 66.2% in January of 1993). Labor force participation does not normally fall in an expanding economy… (12). Indeed, this appears to be the first recovery with declining labor force participation.

Sadly, the minority data is worse. Black male labor force participation has fallen from 69.4% in January of 2001 to 67.7% in May of 2006. Black female labor force participation declined from 60.1% to 59.1% in the same time period. Hispanic labor force participation (both sexes) has also declined, from 69.9% in January of 2001 to 68.7% in May of 2005.

The jobs growth numbers all point in the same direction. This is, by far, the worst recovery in modern history for employment. The last recession ended in November of 2001. Since then (actually the next 48 months) employment has grown by 4.7%. The worst prior recovery enjoyed jobs growth of 6.2%. The average recovery since the 1960s has produced 9.5% growth in jobs. Sadly, the payroll employment data is much worse (14) showing only 2.6% growth over 4 years.

Average weekly earnings peaked back in November of 2003 and have since declined. Amazingly, weekly wages are now back where they were in 1959 and 17% below the high in 1972. Forty six years without a raise. Something to be proud of. Not surprisingly the poverty rate has risen steadily since Bush took office. Back in 2000 the poverty rate was 11.3%. By 2004 it reach 12.7%. The poverty rate always rises in recessions. This may be the first boom with rising poverty (3).

Median household income tells the same tale of woe. Median incomes have declined every year Bush has been in office and are now 3.8% ($1740) below the 1999 level (4). Quite an accomplishment for a president who thinks tax cuts for the wealthy will make us rich.

The superficially nice consumption numbers (15.64% growth in five years) start looking rather dodgy once you look under the covers. Cleary GDP didn’t grow nearly fast enough to pay the piper. Nor did compensation keep pace. Indeed, compensation of employees rose by only 8.3% in the same period. Something had to give. Indeed, the savings rate fell from 2.4% of disposable income in 1Q2001 to -0.5% in 4Q2005 and -1.3% in 1Q2006. Where is the money coming from? Greenspan found the home equity extraction reached $600 billion in 2004 (15)(16) an immodest 7% of disposable income. Are folks using their homes as ATM machines really thrilled with the economy? Does ever rising debt pave the road to heaven? Or would that be hell?

Of course, none of this had to be true. Productivity has risen strongly in recent years (see above). Soaring productivity could have brought large wage and salary gains to ordinary Americans. Productivity alone should have increased incomes by 8% since 2000. No one likes paying $3 for gasoline. However, not too many people would be complaining with fast rising wages. This is not a fantasy. In the 1950s and 60s, wages and median incomes rose right along with the economy. Then we abandoned our borders…

There are other dismal numbers as well (after all economics is the “Dismal Science”). Household inequality has increased under Bush (5). Inequality also went up under Clinton (”no interior enforcement”). Back when we took our borders seriously it declined, from 1947 to 1968. Inequality only started to soar when mass immigration resumed in the 1970s. Predictably, male median earnings fell from 2002 to 2004 and are now lower than they were back in 1973. The percentage of Americans without health insurance has risen from 14.2% in 2000 to 15.7% in 2004. Employment based health insurance fell from 63.6% in 2000 to 59.8% in 2004 (6). Why bother proving benefits when you have illegals?

If the economic statistics weren’t bad enough for Bush, we have the Iraq debacle. Is Open Borders really responsible for Iraq? At least indirectly, the answer is clearly yes. No we aren’t fighting illegal aliens in Ramadi or Sadr city. However, the connection to Open Borders is far from trivial. The easiest linkage is simply the cast of characters. Almost without exception, the cheerleaders for the Iraq war were Open Borders fanatics. Of course, the WSJ and Senor Bush fall into this category. However, you will also find the likes of Fred Barnes (The Weekly Standard), William Kristol (The Weekly Standard), Ben Wattenberg (AEI), and Michael Barone (US News & World Report) in this group.
By contrast, the strongest advocates of immigration reform were generally skeptical of the Iraq war or overtly opposed (Michelle Malkin being a rare exception). What is the connection? Both the Iraq war and Open Borders were/are based on a panglossian view of human nature. If you think America can tolerate massive legal/illegal third world immigration, then the idea that Iraq could be transformed into a model Middle Eastern nation with human rights, free elections, a free-market economy, peace with Israel, and U.S. bases might make sense. Saner voices recognized both ideas as deeply crazy. Crushing Saddam’s murderous and ultimately dangerous (sanctions were fading) regime might have made sense. Pouring American blood into the desolate soils of the Middle East to nurture “democracy” was, and is, folly.

Is immigration responsible for the other problems weighing on the Bush administration? In many cases, the answer is yes, at least to some extent. Only a president deeply wedded to Open Borders would have threatened his very first veto over the Dubai ports deal. A saner administration would have quashed the deal upfront or authorized it only after deep and credible scrutiny. Gasoline prices? The population of the U.S. has risen by 82 million since the mid-1970s when we built our last oil refinery. Most of the growth has been do to immigration. Runaway population growth doesn’t work with highly limited energy development. Something has to give, prices it would seem. A different president would make these choices clear or simply tell the American people that immigration must be stopped until we have a consensus in favor new pipelines, power plants, refineries, offshore drilling, etc. Hard choices in the Pollyanna world of Senor Bush? They don’t exist.

The immigration sickness infecting U.S. health care has already been mentioned. Of course, as the uninsured population explodes the costs fall on taxpayers and those with private insurance. These burdens make insurance even less affordable, pushing more and more folks into the ranks of those without. Why so-called conservatives would demand an immigration policy than can only end with socialized medicine boggles the mind. Perhaps non compos mentis explains it all.

Did Open Borders bring Katrina to the Big Easy? Actually, No. Even the most ardent restrictionists don’t suggest an enforceable ban on category 5 hurricanes. However, in a normal economy the reconstruction work would be providing well paid job opportunities for poor and working class Americans. Such a thing will never happen with Bush in office.

The Bush administration is clearly infected with some kind of “End of History” globalist worldview where mass migration is both inevitable and desirable. In this wonderful future fantasy, borders will disappear and all of mankind will embrace capitalism, free markets, free trade, democracy, etc. Sadly, this Pollyannaish view of the human condition has led to tragedy abroad, and economic failure at home. What should be clear is that the ideology of Open Borders is directly and indirectly responsible for the woes of the Bush administration. As of this late date there is little they can do about it. After 9-11, Bush had a perfect moment in time, to change course and save his presidency and his country. With malice and forethought he threw it away.


Republicans
Republicans abandoned their beliefs and are history. They abandoned us in South Dakota by not supporting us on the abortion ban. Where were their dollars and help. They abandoned Graf from Arizona - using their money to try to defeat him in the primary and then withholding mucho advertising dollars during the election campaign. The other Arizona Republican lost because his Democratic opponent was more anti-illegal immigration than the Republican. Bush can still save the Republican party by getting a backdone and standing for what is right. The man loves to go to war, but he doesn't lead to win the war and he doesn't fight to win on the homefront. I believe the President is a nice man, but nice guys always finish last. Bush supported Specter, Chaffee - The Republicans never seemed to back the conservatives - they even supported the liberal Lieberman in Connecticut. I don't mourn the Republican loss, but I do mourn what is coming down the pipe for our nation. Maybe Lynn Cheney should run for President in 2008.

Hey Buck!
That makes sense; that's the explanation for his support of Chaffee and lukewarm endorsement of conservative Repubs recently.

Thanks for the insight. Scares me!

R2D2: You have it backward
You wrote that this election, and the Dems' victory, proves that Reaganism is dead.

Actually, this election proves that the only way Dems can win is if Reps forget Reaganism, as they did.

The Dems squeeked out a tiny, dinky, marginal victory in the 6-year-itch mid-term elections, traditionally adverse to the sitting President. And from this you draw the conclusion that Reaganism is dead?

That's like saying because the light bulb illuminated, I flicked the switch. Bass-ackwards.

Actually, Reagan and the Contract with America, the two most ardent statements of conservatism in recent times, were supported by landslide electoral victories.

Nice try at the history re-write, but no stars or cigars.

Beverages
There are only two kinds of people in this world.
Those who love whiskey and those who need to learn to love whiskey.

Va. Conservatives pick Gingrich for '08

.....Tombo777...

.....By an overwhelming margin, Virginia conservatives picked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich as the man they favor to be the Republican nominee for President in 2008...

Complete results printed below...

...Newt Gingrich..... 31%
...Mitt Romney....... 14%
...Sam Brownback..... 12%
...John McCain....... 12%
...Mike Huckabee..... 8%
...Rudy Guiliani..... 7%
...Duncan Hunter..... 4%
...Bill Frist........ 3%
...Chuck Hagel....... 1%
...George Pataki..... 1%

.....COLOSSUS

Help Wanted: Republicans with Balls

.....Butteblack...

.....You wrote..."Remember the Government shutdown?... Had Newt held the line Clinton would have been crippled and conservatives would have owned Washington... unfortunately, it takes men with balls and the Republicans never had any."...

.....You are so correct... the House Republicans folded like wet napkins under the constant negative press of the MSM who were carrying Clintons water...when Gingrich lost the support of his own party he stepped down as speaker and left Congress... it took a full 12 years after this collapse of Republicans to defend conservative principles for their inevitable downfall but it began when they abandon Newt and started sucking up to the NY Times and the MSM.....COLOSSUS

raidencraig talk on something
that you know about.

The lawbreaking illegal aliens are here to steal JOBS! They don't give a fart's snort whether they are stealling YOUR job or not. I know this personally having lost my first construction job to the sob's. I was unable to live 6-8 in an apartment and drive around in an uninsured vehicle and lie on my W-2 and use a phoney social security card so as to pay no taxes ergo work for much less. Wise up. The President is lying through his teeth when he says they are, "Honest, decent people who only come here for jobs no American will take. They have no respect for our society. They have no allegiance for our country. They break our laws coming here, they break our laws using forged/stolen documents and they our break laws driving around uninsured vehicles and are the largest group of accident related DUI's in the country.

Still Don't Get It ...
"maryjane chewin" and "scotch swizzlin'" ... though appropriate images ... were selected simply for poetic reasons. I recognize the incongruity of both (as well as dangers inherent in overgeneralization), but think they work. I also appreciate the comments on scotch and beer. However, those comments only further support my contention that people passionate about their politics are purposefully sidetracked. Quite easily.

If conservatives didn't "lose" this election because ... as many point out ... they chose not to support Republican candidates, does this mean that they voted FOR Democratic candidates? If conservatives didn't vote for the Dems, who did, since most states seem to be reporting record (or near record) voter turn-outs for a midterm election?

Someone up there said that 59% of the voting population favors "traditional values". Sounds reasonable to me (but isn't it surprising that 41% DON'T ... or support something other than "traditional" values?). If 59% were offended by the hypocrisy of closet gays who rant holier-than-thou about the evils of homosexuality; if 59% were offended by the as-yet-undetermined scope of casino and gambling interests in the behavior of Republican Congressmen; if 59% were offended by the inability of the justice system to hold Ken Lay accountable for honest business practice; well, I could go on ... might that not explain why Republicans, intoxicated by the heady stuff provided by a dozen years of majority power and seemingly arrogant and aloof to their constituents, took a big dive.

I do not see how anyone commenting on this board has disproved the notion that the majority of American people are a curious mixture of liberal and conservative leanings, feelings, and beliefs. People who hold strong beliefs believe everyone else shares those beliefs, and finds all sorts of "evidence" that this is the case by isolating discrete behaviors or statements. The fact of the matter is that many people are opposed to gay "marriage", but do not think homosexuals should be persecuted or punished for their behaviors (and support gay unions). The first half of that belief cannot be looked at in isolation to prove that Americans are "conservative".

Additionally, the fact that a large percentage of American people work for a living and identify with organizations and philosophies that advocate worker rights and worker power and collectivist action may align them with Bolsheviks and Marxists and Socialists (who naturally align themselves with the same issues) ... but it does not MAKE them flaming lefties. No more than a person who feels laws must be enacted to protect the interests of businesses over the interests of workers makes that person a Nazi because they advocate a form of state socialism ... even if they are aligned to the same basic premises. Communism (with a big "C") -- the big boogeyman of most of my childhood and a great part of my adult life -- is dead ... communism (with a little "c") is not; just like Fascism (with a big "F") is dead, but fascism (with a little "f") is not.

Explain to me how a government that is roughly selected, and therefore representative of, loose associations of corporate boards of directors is fundamentally more legitimate than a government that is roughly selected by loose associations of working people (not "big labor", a corrupt and moribund institution that is merely the opposite side of the coin of big business)?

Not that the latter is the case with the slim Democratic majority in both Houses. Probably the last highly elected official in the Democratic Party who spoke with the legitimate voice of the Working Class was Henry Wallace (an agrarian inventor and businessman who evolved slowly in his populist beliefs). Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean are far from Henry Wallace, my friends.

I have to admit, though, that I truly enjoy reading your passionate cries against all the evils of the world.

raidencraig
I apologize. Not having my morning coffee I misread your post. Guess I should take my BP pill BEFORE coffee for awhile....

providus
After reading Konop's 8:36 post I must add to your list the following:

George W. Bush

Bush has been consistent
"Coupled with what appears to be the outsourcing of Iraq policy to James Baker, Bush family consigliore, the questions arise, one after the other. Is there any real core to George W. Bush? Is there any real constancy and constancy of character and purpose?"
---------------------------

Yes, Bush has demonstrated constancy in his selling out of America. Very consistent and constant indeed.

Selling off our infrastructure.

Pushing more and more non-free trade agreements that benefit select multi-national corporations

Having a total disregard of trade imbalances

Continuing with Clinton's actions of handing our military secrets over to Communist China

Spending more than all Presidents before him COMBINED

Increasing our national debt to over 8 TRILLION dollars

Sitting idly by while the Pentagon misplaced 3 TRILLION dollars (and it's still "missing")

Letting our country be overrun by illegal aliens, while doing NOTHING about it, other than trying to push wholesale amnesty

Developing and pushing draconian and unconstitutional legislation to spy on American citizens, pick Americans up and imprison them indefinitely at the President's whim, etc., etc., etc.

Lying to us repeatedly about Iraq

Continuing his unconstitutional course of action has left our country so close to bankruptcy that a feather could push us over the edge.

No, Americans aren't sick of conservative ideals, they're sick of socialist globalist traitorous hacks, running around saying they are conservative, when they are NOT, and destroying everything this country was founded upon.


Newt Gingrich is nothing but a NEOCON
Do you want another Bush? Then, Gingrich is your man.

For me, I want a REAL conservative.

Speaking of hubris, you're full of it
Pat you were wrong before the election, and you're wrong again.

America didn't reject Bush at the polls, they simply followed your advice and failed to support him as they should have. You and other narcissists like you convinced enough people that deserting family members, and shoving them out in the cold, is better than inviting them in to sit and have a frank discussion.

And now that you've kicked the President and the GOP out of your house, you're opening the window, and shouting invectives at them, while your enemies are ransacking your cupboards and turning your basement into a rave party.

Maybe we better ask you the question - are more thumpings necessary? Or will you see the light on your own by next election? A wise man learns from his mistakes. But first he learns what a mistake is, and quits defending his foolishness.

MacZed
You are right - hope your sort of sanity prevails.

These other yokels seem to have lapsed into paranoia, blame throwing, and hysteria.

The fault is not with the GOP performance - not that there wasn't a reason to criticise - but there was no real reason to "throw the bums out!"

Why throw out only Republican bums? Why throw out these bums, and open the Congress to be staffed by thugs, petty tyrants, and plutocrats? George Soros and his ilk have maneuvered their way into the halls of power and are letting Bush and the GOP take the blame, and the conservatives are lighting the matches. They get the government they deserve. Fools. Fools for turning on their own.
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