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Friday, October 20, 2006
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
America 2050: A Nation of Turtles
by Pat Buchanan
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Does it matter who was the 300 millionth "American"?

Indeed, it does.

If it was a baby born to an American, that is wonderful news. If it was a baby born to an illegal alien, it means we have lost control of our borders. And as Ronald Reagan said, a country that can't control its borders isn't really a country anymore.

And if it was a Mexican who slipped over the Rio Grande in the early morning darkness of Oct. 17, it may be a harbinger of the end of America as we knew her.

If the people are not celebrating the 300 million along with the editorial writers, it is because there is a strong likelihood the individual added to our number is not an American at all, and because the extraordinary growth of the American family was not the free choice of the American people.

We have 300 million here today only because the government of the United States refuses to enforce our immigration laws and the people were misled or lied to when the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed.

Who was the chairman of the subcommittee that conducted the hearings? Edward M. Kennedy. And what did Sen. Kennedy promise? Here are his own words of four decades ago:

"(O)ur cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same. ... The ethnic mix of this country will not be upset. ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S. 500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any other country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia."

Only haters would make such assertions, Kennedy thundered. "The charges I have mentioned are highly emotional, irrational and with little foundation in fact. They are out of line with the obligations of responsible citizenship. They breed hate of our heritage."

How good were the senator's assurances?

Today, we have 36 million immigrants and their children here, some 90 percent from Third World nations whose peoples have never before been assimilated into a First World nation. A third, 12 million, are here in violation of our laws.

Most of those coming now are poor and uneducated, and are unable to speak our language. Some do not wish to become Americans. But they are sending our crime, poverty and disease rates skyward, and pulling U.S. academic scores down toward Third World levels.

But what is most significant about these deep and irreversible alterations in the character of the nation is that the American people never voted for it and do not want it. It is being imposed from above, anti-democratically, by a regime that refuses to enforce our laws and is now at virtual war with the American people.

Though immigration is the hottest domestic issue in 2006, and every candidate in a close race is taking a hard line on border security -- even Hillary Clinton voted for 700 miles of security fence -- the will of the people is ignored. According to a poll released Monday by The Center for Immigration Studies, 68 percent of Americans say immigration is too high. Only 2 percent believe it is too low. Yet the McCain-Kennedy-Bush bill would have granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens and doubled the number of legal immigrants.

The failure to restrict immigration so the Melting Pot can work, the refusal to seal the border despite what America wants, suggests ours has ceased to be a democratic republic. "Here, sir, the people rule!" used to be a proud boast. Today, the line is laughable.

In my book "State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America," I projected that by 2050, every city in America would look like Los Angeles, and Los Angeles and the cities of the Southwest would look like Mexico City.

And what is happening to Los Angeles? According to Robert Putnam, Harvard political scientist and author of "Bowling Alone," the trust among people in "this most diverse human habitation in human history" is now at rock bottom, the lowest anywhere he could find.

"In the presence of diversity," said Putnam, "we hunker down. We act like turtles. The effect of diversity is worse than had been imagined. And it's not just that we don't trust people who are not like us. In diverse communities we don't trust people who look like us."

The more people of different races that live in a community, the greater the loss of trust, said Putnam. "They don't trust the local mayor, they don't trust the local paper, they don't trust other people, and they don't trust institutions. ... The only thing there is more of is protest marches and TV watching."

Welcome to the Brave New World our elites are creating for our children, as they consign the America we grew up in to the compost heap of history.

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Why?
Why do you guys still publish this clown? You might as well publish Ralph Nader for all the impact he has on public discourse.

merrygoboy
Having firsthand experience with the relocation of many of the Atlanta refugees to Maine and the resulting tensions this phenomenom has created between them and the resident population, I can only wonder at the reasoning behind such efforts.

when diversity becomes perversity
Good article. Buchanan has some historical perspective in realizing the Immigration Act of 1965, enacted into law through the efforts of Senator Ted Kennedy, set the stage for the subsequent disasters immigration policies have inflicted onto our nation. Large parts of our urban areas are now enclaves where English is a foreign tongue, where crime and economic deprivation is rampant. We have purposely set forth a policy to encourage the migration onto our shores of the dumbest and most ignorant the third-world has to offer. And we place strict limits on the number of educated and highly skilled immigrants from the first-world. Senator Kennedy should be tried for treason...I am almost that angry. A recipe for national suicide! And President Bush does not get a pass here. There is little difference between his views and the senator's on this issue. I cannot understand how a first-world nation would purposely pursue immigration policies designed to turn itself into a third-world nation.

Great line:
"But what is most significant about these deep and irreversible alterations in the character of the nation is that the American people never voted for it and do not want it. It is being imposed from above, anti-democratically, by a regime that refuses to enforce our laws and is now at virtual war with the American people."

Indeed, if we were allowed to vote on it, we wouldn't be talking about it.

Wisdom of Patrick J. Buchanan
One of the most disasterous laws ever passed by the United States Congress is the 1965 Kennedy Immigration Act. The onerous results are many and profound- massive Third World immigration and the resulting demographic revolution; creation of an underclass that will act as political pawns of the Democratic Party; the ratcheting down of the wages of skilled and semi-skilled workers; the destruction of the historic American nation; the creation of communities loyal to the cultures of non-American countries; the stressing out of America's natural resources, such as water, which is in short supply in the West particularly; the overcrowding of a country orignally shaped by people like Jefferson to be a rural, bucolic wonderland.

As he is on most issues, Pat Buchanan is prescient on immigration. As I vacation beachside in North Carolina two weeks hence, I eagerly look forward to reading his newest bestseller.

One final point. The first poster to this thread with his/her childish little insult reminds me of all the immature posters to Buchanan threads over at Free Republic. They don't have the intelligence to debate whatever Buchanan (and others) write but instead respond with junior high school retorts. People like that, and unfortunately they are many, belong to "conservative" ranks, I am ashamed to admit. Not every moron in the country is on the Left, that much is certain.

game over
the idea that fulminating in this forum, or any other, will make a dimes worth of difference it laughable. conservatives have lost the culture war and the power war. there are no conservatives left in power anywhere to make a difference. every empire ends this way

1965 - a very bad year
1965 - the year of my birth. If the entire political year could be bottled up and made into a vintage it wouldn't even be good enough to sit next to a bottle of 2006 Boone's Farm in the supermarket.

The year that proudly brought us two great domestic initiatives in the form of Medicaid and the 1965 Immigration Bill. If you read the estimated costs of the Medicaid legislation in 1965 and square them with the reality it is absolutely laughable (in a most sick kind of way). As Mr. Buchanan so eloquently recounts in this article, Mr. Kennedy's sales pitch for his immigration bill and the reality of what it has brought is equally as laughable. But once the legislation has passed, there is no one to call him on his failures -- to measure the difference between what was promised and what was actually delivered.

Is there not one Republican Senator with the guts and fortitude to stand up in front of the Senate and call Mr. Kennedy to task for this abomination that he inalterably foisted upon our country? Is there not one Senator unafraid to risk being labeled a xenophobe, a bigot, or a racist in rightly calling Mr. Kennedy to task for the lies he spewed forth over forty years ago? Is there not one Senator willing to take this history and make the case for a forceful and drastic end to this destructive force that threatens our nation? Sadly, it seems the answer is no. We face a rapidly closing window of time where public opinion stands in favor of doing something about this unfolding tragedy, and yet there is really nothing significant being done to reverse this mistake. As this 3rd world mass of humanity gains ever greater numbers and political strength in this country, that window will be shut forever.

Left & Right both guilty
Why only criticise the Dems? If the GOP wasn't also at the mercy of special interest groups, it would have done something tangible long ago.

Polies of all persuasions have sold the folks out. It's the no-spin people like O'reilly and Buchanan that are leading the fight to reclaim the country for the people. Go, Culture Warrior!

Illegal aliens
I keep reading that Republicans will stay home rather than vote. The House would not go along with the Senate version on illegal aliens. Now it is predicted that the House will go Democrat. That is the last thing we need to have happen. Democrats want illegals so they can get their votes and we will be a 3rd world country before we realize the disaster is here. I have already been the recipient of sheer hate looks by a Mexican and her 5 children. Before long it could be more than just looks. Texas is being over run. They even pledge allegience to the Mexican flag in Houston schools.

What's so depressing...
is as we all know...democracies are destroyed from within.

Because of the stigmatization (read Shelby Steele) of white America, we're being destroyed by 'feel good' liberals including the media that feel it's not 'nice' to want to protect our way of life.

The other large group doesn't give a d**mn because as a nation we're fat, lazy and spoiled.

The assumption that life will just go merrily along is silly and just not going to happen. We've now got 'friends' like Sen. Cornyn assuring people that the fence will never get built.

It really does boil down to the 'white guilt' that Steele addresses. It's so depressing.

For once Pat got it right
Well, I shouldn't say, for once. Pat is often spot on when he speaks of US domestic policy and immigration. He just sucks eggs when it comes to foreign affairs.

Raven
How do you know about pledging allegience to the Mexican flag in Houston schools? Are they public schools?

"White Guilt"
Americans have lost their cultural confidence. Somewhere in the psyche of Americans exists a desperation that drives them to prove that they are not racist, that they are not bigots. (Shelby Steele wrote a great book on this phenomena.)

The multicultural Left has convinced the American people that the preservation of their national (and racial?)identity is somehow a rejection of other cultures (and races?). This makes one a bigot.

Alexis de Tocqueville once observed that Americans seem to possess a powerful desire to be liked. I found this idea fascinating (and I believe it is true.) America can't stop carrying out its own sort of sordid battered wife syndrome. Americans continues to blame and flagellate themselves for the sins of their fathers and the global horrors of a Hobbesian world. Reason has yielded to sentimentalism. Like the battered wife, America will continue to blame and curse itself while another prepares for it a tidy bed of destruction.

Immigration, Boston
One of the best example of the effects of immigration are found here in merry old Boston.

All around the city itself, you see the relics of the original Bostonians; the monuments, the graves, the old (empty) churches. There's a place called "Granary Cemetery" in the heart of the city itself. There lie Sam Adams, Paul Revere, Crispus Attucks, James Otis, John Hancock, Revolutionary Ear heroes, early governors, other important people who history forgot.

There, Ben Franklin built a 20 foot tall monument for his parents, with this inscription:

"Josiah Franklin and Abiah his wife, lie here interred. They lived lovingly together in wedlock fifty-five years; and without an estate or any careful employment; by constant labor and honest industry, maintained a large family comfortably, and brought up thirteen children and seven grandchildren respectably. From this instance, Reader, be encouraged to diligence in thy calling, and distrust not Providence. He was a pious and prudent man; she a virtuous woman. Their youngest son, in filial regard to their memory, places this stone."

Reading the graves, a low-level politician brags of one life accomplishment: never having taken a bribe.

In another cemetery by the (now Episcopalian) Old North Church, war heroes report about their fierceness in battle, list the ships they sunk, and the number of cannons they captured. The biggest monuments are for the preachers, with Bible verses carved into their monuments.

You feel a certain surrealness seeing all that in modern Boston. History comes alive and, along with pride, comes the overwhelming feeling that modern Bostonians are bunch of trespassers and vandals. We're not the descendents of those people, by blood or culture. They died, we crowded out their children, took their land, and killed their legacy.

In my opinion, that is immigration.

Buchanan's Megalomania
All North Americans are immigrants. The US is the great immigrant nation! Some of those who got there earlier seem to want to lock the door on those who might arrive later.
(Warning for those of you who are Southern Baptist...sarcasm approaching...)
The cheap Mexican labour is OK as long as it stays in Mexico. The free African labour was great but they should all go home now.

The article is typical of Pat Buchanan's megalomaniacal bigotry.

...and what did George Washington think
RE: For Stu's reflection

George Washington, perhaps the greatest American. Thomas Jefferson. John Jay. Benjamin Franklin. John Adams. All wished America to be settled with Americans of British stock. You know, the ones who conquered a continent with their blood, toil and sweat in little more than a century. They did that with almost no help of any of the post-1880 immigrants, most of whom swarmed our cities, voted for Democratic machines, and voted for socialist policies. Post-1880 immigration was a mistake as the current immigration policy is a mistake.

Any time, Stu, you think you are wiser than George Washington, let the world know.

merrygoboy
Don't you remember the controversy a few years back concerning the mayor of Lewiston, Maine? He asked the refugee center in Atlanta to stop sending any more immigrants because their human services were being depleted and they could not sustain the costs of providing them with all of the services they required. They would not take jobs that the city was offering them, such as, flagmen (and women) at construction sites, etc.

Do a search on Lewsiton, Maine and Somalians, I'm sure you will find it interesting.


Is Modern Mass. the future of America
Post-it makes interesting points. Massachusetts was largely run from its inception in 1620 until about 1920 by the same people, Yankees(sometimes known as Brahmins) mostly derived from England. From 1920 to 1952, the Irish, who outbred the Yankees, achieved parity with the Yankees. The Irish were Democrats. The symbolic event that signaled that the Yankees were doomed in the state which they built was John F. Kennedy's defeat of Hnery Cabot Lodge for the 1952 Seante race.

It has been all downhill for the Yankees in Massachusetts ever since. The Yankees built the state, other groups jumped on board, and now the Yankees are a despised minority in the state they built. Instructive of America's future as millions of people who couldn't care a wink about the historic American nation cleave onto an America their ancestors did nothing to build.

Derek, Yankees
More important than just the tribal aspect of it, being "downhill for the Yankees ever since" is that its been downhill for MASSACHUSETTS ever since.

The Yankees abandoned Boston, the same phenomenon as "white flight". There are no English neighborhoods: three Irish, two Italian, three Black/Hispanic, one Asian, two wealthy "cosmopolitan" areas. In other words, the "turtled" place that Mr. Buchanon spoke of. There's no trace of common morality, and the population has decayed into something repugnant.

And, Boston being the heart of Massachusetts politics, even if we suspend reality and pretend that there's some sort of equity between political philosophies, Massachusetts is a cess-pool of corruption for any party. It's a lesson in reflex-control to follow politics around here: you can't even listen to these people speak without your stomach turning.

I'm not old stock, I'm actually half-Irish but I can admit that "diversity" does nothing for a community but undermine it. It was a mistake to bring African slaves here, it was a mistake to bring European factory workers here, it is a mistake to bring Mexican minimum-wage workers here. The exact same mistake every time, and we've payed for it every time.

Next time a decent society forms, remember the lesson. For a society: similarity is strength, diversity is death.






Sanitise
Derek, thanks for considering my post and taking the time to reply.


I know he is a revered founding figure of republicanism but George Washington was just a politician, one whose leadership early on was as concerned with driving the British OUT of America as building a nation from British stock.

I wonder what the Inuit thought of George Washington, and pride in conquering the continent in less than a century.

Shut up the barricades to the rest of the world (including on environmental issues), take the US back to pre-1880 immigration policies, sanitise against anything not White, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant. That would be Washington's answer today, would it?

students pledging allegence Mex flag
I saw this on world net daily. It is on a link to KTRH TV. http://www.ktrh.com/pages/newsarchive.html?feed=134584&article=1488088

There are 2 links one showing the public school children waving mexican flags and one showing someone singing Spanish. The children appear to be in the early years.
world net daily still has the web site.

PJB Correct Again
We all have a stake in assuring that this nation and its best dreams are bequeathed to people who understand it, people who share the insticts of the enlightened Judeo-Christian Soul.

This is all PJB is saying, and it can't possibly be wrong.

stu
Why people like you insist on deprecating their own country (assuming you're an American)is beyond me. If it were truly moral to hate a people for displacing another, then every people in the world would need to hate themselves. A little reflection on history would reveal that what was done in the Americas had been going on for eons in the rest of the world. How different do you think it would have been if the Chinese had gotten here first? Or Africans, or any other race of people? How realistic is it to expect any discoverer of this land, upon finding that another culture was already here, to turn their backs and leave out of altruistic motives? Get off your high horse and deal with what IS.

What would George Washington say if he could see this nation today? The gorge in his throat would render him speechless.

Pat Buchanan
Buchanan makes way too much sense for liberals to digest. No wonder at all that he was thrown out of the 2000 Presidential race like a cigar butt out of a car window!

Sooner that 2050
Hey Pat, long before 2050 the offspring of the illegals will probably be a majority voting block,(not that illegals are not encouraged to vote now). What do you think will hapen to this country then? The liberal politicians are pandering to them now and no conservative has the guts to challenge them. Adios amigo!

Pat Buchanan is an immigrant descendant
John you're absolutely right that history is a succession of invasion events in which one culture entirely suppresses another. you ask me to face up to that fact, but I can't tell though if you think it is right or not.
I'm not sure how understanding the European invasion of North America from the point of view of indigenous people is "deprecating" the US.
It may indeed be that the next dominant culture of North American is Chinese. If you're still around when it happens you'll want that transition to go peacefully, although I suspect it will be an economic process rather than a military one.

Those British ancestors of ours have modern-day decendants still living in the UK who claim indignantly, when asked, that they are of "English" descent, forgetting that, if white, they are actually decended within the last 1500 years from Celts, Saxon Germans, Vikings, Normans and Romans, from all across Europe. They fiercely resist the idea of immigration, forgetting that they themselves are pretty much 100% of foreign descent. This applies by extension to white Americans.

Most Western nations have an immigration policy along the lines of welcoming immigrants who have the capacity to contribute to the practical running and prosperity of the country, perhaps with some empathy with the democratic concensus of what constitutes the local culture. Economic refugees tend to be unwelcome; the international community has a duty to provide assylum for those who face genuine danger in their countries of origin. This seems to me to be a reasonable compromise and, notwithstanding the problem of immigration by those who have no intention of making an economic contribution, the US is what it is exactly because nearly everyone has arrived, or decended from someone who arrived, with a dream of a better life. Pat Buchanan, typically reactionary neocon that he is, muddies the water by confusing illegal border-crossing with the importation of people with skills and goodwill. He claims (by subtraction) that there are 24 million legal immigrants. Isn't his figure about 264 million short of the mark?

Morality of invasion
I believe it is hypocritical and arrogant to pass judgement on those who can't defend themselves. and so I don't pass judgement on the past. Displacement and counter displacement is not only a fact of history, it is a fact of human nature. I see no moral contradiction between having the blood of invaders in one's own veins and resisting invaders of the present. It is what it is. The simple equation is this: If I need you, I let you in. If I don't and you try to force your way in, I imprison you, send you back or kill you. I am fully in favor of individual morality and charity. The type that calls for personal sacrifice to achieve good ends. But I believe a nation that attempts to be charitable toward other nations and peoples at the cost of it's own interests is a doomed nation. Ms Lazaras's poem on the Statue of Liberty not withstanding, the only reason why the early US invited immigrants to it's shores is because it needed labor. It was not because it enjoyed listening to foreign chatter in its streets. It is unfortunate that American governments have always tried, and succeeded, in selling wars, foreign aid and other intrigues to Americans on the basis of Christian morality, when that has never been what they were about, nor is that what Christianity is about. And so, today, we have kind people like yourself who have completely unrealistic expectations of what this nation's or any nation's foreign policy and immigration policy should be.

Morality of immigration
John I take your point that typical human behaviour in the past has been invade then defend. How about the contradiction of being an immigrant yourself but denying immigration to others? Do you disagree with the immigration principles I listed?

More clearly:
1. Let in those who can contribute economically in fields where their skills are in demand (regardless of first language or ethnicity).
2. Deny entry to those who will expect to live on handouts.
3. Admit those who will be killed or tortured if turned away.
4. (Optional) require some understanding or degree of empathy with the local culture (really for the sake of the prospective immigrant. As language and culture are parallel, perhaps a degree of competence in English or Spanish could be required).

What have I left out? Which represents an unrealistic expectation?

inconsistency
Stu said: "How about the contradiction of being an immigrant yourself but denying immigration to others?"

How about the contradiction of giving the USA and Europe to third-world people and not expecting third-world countries to surrender their countries in exchange ? Why not have Mexico colonized by white American settlers ? Let's have fun: why not have massive African immigration to Mexico, and massive Chinese immigration to Africa ?

I don't think Americans should be considered as immigrants living on a continent which is not their own. But if that is your position, then you should not switch to a completely different line of argument in the next sentence, and say that immigrants are making an economic contribution to the USA. You should try to have a consistent point of view.

"1. Let in those who can contribute economically"

Non-European immigration makes life much much much worse for Americans. Even if it did not, the fact is that most Americans oppose immigration. What can you do about that ? What are you supposed to do when you are rejected by a pretty girl ? Ignore what she says ?


"3. Admit those who will be killed or tortured if turned away."

That's how many people ? Maybe about 0.0001% of the current immigration. Why not give them some money to resettle in a place closer to their home country ?


"4. require some understanding or degree of empathy with the local culture"

You can not mandate empathy or love, and you can not make third-world people into European-Americans, and I don't understand why you would want to do such a thing.

To Stu
I ahve to comment on your principles of immigration,'

1. Sure, anyone that can add to our way of life due to needed skills are ripe for immigration into our country, I agree.
2. Deny entry to people looking for handouts, of course. Add to this, people with diseases also. Use of our medical systems is a handout as well.
3. Why??? People all over the world are dying of disease, poverty, hunger etc.. Why should we, as americans be required to care for them all? We can't! I give of my own time and money, what I feel I can afford. Who are you or anyone else to tell me I must give more. If we allow 'political refugees' to invade our shores, who is going to pay for them? Since you want them you can foot that bill. Leave me (and my wallet) out of your computations. That may sound cold and heartless, but the facts are that there are many in need and only so many resources to provide for them. Besides, many of these refugess come from countries that have the resources to become as wealthy as the good old US of A. They can build up thier own countries. Americans already provide lots of aid for just such things already. We don't need them moving in with us too.
4. Requiring an understanding of the USA and a desire to actually become a citizen should be a requirement. Knowing ENGLISH should also be a requirement. What the h*ll do you mean 'or spanish'?

Bison, Smallpox, India and Spanish...
Merrygoboy you're right. I'll bet the indigenous bison weren't too happy about the American Indians walking straight across the border and starting the slaughter! All humans (possibly except East Africans) are immigrants from somewhere else. What meaning can be infered from that? That white men are at fault? Of course not. Without the achievements of white people (who used to be Africans and Asians before moving to Europe and turning white) smallpox would not have been eradicated from the world. There has never been (I have been lead to believe) a famine in a country with a democratically elected government, a system invented in Europe and propagated (with varying success) by the US. I am a white boy from a good family Merrygoboy. You dig my honky jive?


Armorican there is some nice irony in you wanting posession of third world countries in return for accepting their immigrants. Unless I've got it wrong the history of European colonisation is in the reverse order - European rip-off of third-world country's resources followed by migration to Europe of third-world country populations, eg Britain in the Indian sub-continent, the French in North Africa.

Armorican and Thastic,
To which country near to his home of Iran would you send (with money) a university professor, an islamic apostate likely to be shot dead by fanatics if returned home? Were you proud or dismayed that the US welcomed Soviet defectors during the cold war?

Thastic the immigrant who is only interested in expensive first-world health care is ruled out by the principle of not admiting those looking for handouts, however I spent two years as a foreign national working in the UK and as I have type-I diabetes I needed the care of the National Health Service. I paid quite decent amounts in tax, and took responsibility for myself including not indulging in high-risk behaviours likely to result in time off work or further burdens on government services. I like to think the deal was still a good one for the UK. Arriving in need of a liver transplant with no prospect of employment would be a bit different...

Re Spanish:
A Chinese immigrant with lots of cash might want to set up a restaurant in California. Depending on location, the most useful skills might be fluency in Mandarin and Spanish! Why not? North America came within a hair's breadth of being entirely Spanish-speaking at one point!

You're all very committed staying up this late!

Oop
My apologies Thasic for calling you Thastic...

Stabbed In The Back By Both Parties
A. The Republicans want Illegal Aliens for cheap labor force;
B. The Democrats want Illegal Aliens for votes.

Our "Compassionate Conservative" President is lying through his eye teeth when he says, "These are decent, honest, hard working people that take jobs no American will take."

In 15 years in the construction business, I saw the following jobs WHICH HAD ALL BEEN HELD BY AMERICANS taken over by Illegal Aliens;

1. Drywall;
2. Bricklaying;
3. Concrete Work;
4. Roofing;
5. Landscaping;
6. Painting;
7. Jobsite Cleanup and the Illegals had made great inroads into Framing and Trim Carpentry. The only reason they have not overrun Plumbing, Electrical and Heating & Air is because of the required license.

These were jobs held by Americans, Mr. President. The Illegals came here, moved 6 or 8 to an apartment, lied on W-2, Social Security, paid no insurance on their pickup trucks and they STOLE those jobs from AMERICANS, Mr. President. These were jobs American family men had. These were jobs that paid the mortgage, the insurance and fed and clothed their AMERICAN families, Mr. President.

And, by the way, these Illegals Broke the law coming here, broke the law using fake or stolen SS numbers, and every one of them I knew broke the law when they, an alien, purchased a handgun.
These 'honest, decent, hard working' folks are not vaccinated for numerous diseases we had eradicated back in the last century....

Stabbed in the back
You said it all.

I love the part...
...where the amnesty crowd says "they should pay back taxes". Well, let's see, we've got 20 million illegal aliens, about a third of whom are collecting welfare. What's the tax rate on welfare? Then there are the ones who are employed picking lettuce, and the like. They earn, what, about $4/hour? And with that earned income tax credit, that makes the total tax receipts from those folks come to, oh, about negative 19 billion dollars! Oh, yes, by all means, let's collect that, lets!

Pat is right
I don't think anyone is against LEGAL immigration. That is what this country is all about. The issue however is ILLEGAL ALIENS. These people are not immigrants, they are breaking our laws and need to be held accountable. Yes, I feel sorry for those that truly want to come here to become Americans, but we cannot take on the masses that want to come here all at one time, without completely breaking our country. That is why we have established the number that can immigrate here each year. These people come from around the world and do so LEGALLY.

Some of the illegal aliens coming here truly believe that a large part of this country belongs to a nation of Aztlan, that they fully plan to establish. What that is in fact is a plan to overthrow part of this country. Why is our government putting up with this? Actually, they seem to be promoting it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIW-BZ8oLrk&eurl


Is it because they are moving behind the scenes to establish a North American Union, merging Canada, Mexico and the United States. Yes, I think so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ensmPJm5B5A&eurl=

http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/NAU/

They just don't get it.
There's a common denominator to the posts of those who disagree with Buchanan. They don't get it. They fail to see what is so special about America and its unique heritage.

Well, what IS so special about us? What makes us unique, and why is the American Way worth preserving?

Succinctly stated, it is this:

- Old Europhiles understand the human impulse for liberty and the dignity it entails, but they no longer feel that impulse.

- Third worlders feel the impulse toward the dignity which only liberty can bring, but they do not understand it.

- The traditional American mind both feels and understands it.

Granted, this is a generalization, but it's an accurate one. There are a few people left in the failing Old Europe who have not been totally enervated, and there are numbers of people in the Third World who really comprehend liberty, along with its obligations and costs. But these are too few, and that seems to be a growing trend right here on American soil.

This is why it is vital that we control our immigration and maintain a close watch on those who come here. When they do come, we have to be sure that they are people who have come for the right reason. The right reason is this: they want to become American...fully American. They want to learn our history, abide by our laws and common customs, and they want to learn and speak our language (that's English, BTW). And, just as important, we should eliminate dual citizenship. Either you're an American or you aren't.

Anyone who wants me or you to learn their language to co-exist with them can just stay home. Anyone who wants to get "free" handouts can stay away. Anyone who breaks our laws can molder away in a prison somewhere else.

The American turtles needs to pull their heads out, or we'll eventually have our heads handed to us.

legal or illegal
Liberty wrote: " I don't think anyone is against LEGAL immigration "

It is irrelevant to make a distinction between legal and illegal immigration. You don't need any. If the problem was only illegal immigration, a simple solution would be for the legislators to declare any immigration legal. As I see it, the administration is forcing both legal and illegal immigration from third-world countries on Americans who mostly do not want it. What matters is not whether it is legal, but whether Americans agree with it, how many immigrants are coming, from what countries.

We are told that Europe and America need immigration, while Mexico and Africa do not. It doesn't make sense. Immigration is destroying the US, and I am sure Mexico would work much better if the Mexicans were replaced by Americans. If we think that Mexicans have a right to have their own country, we should grant the same right to Americans and Europeans.
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