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Tuesday, August 29, 2006
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
The NAFTA super highway
by Pat Buchanan
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This is a "mind-boggling concept," exploded Lou Dobbs. It must cause Americans to think our political and academic elites have "gone utterly mad." What had detonated the mild-mannered CNN anchor?

Dr. Robert Pastor, vice chair of the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force on North America, had just appeared before a panel of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations -- to call for erasing all U.S. borders and a merger of the United States, Mexico and Canada in a North American union stretching from Prudhoe Bay to Guatemala.

Under the Pastor-CFR plan, the illegal alien invasion would be solved by eliminating America's borders and legalizing the invasion. We would no longer defend the Rio Grande.

"What we need to do," Pastor instructed, "is forge a new North American Community. ... Instead of stopping North Americans on the borders, we ought to provide them with a secure, biometric Border Pass that would ease transit across the border like an E-Z pass permits our cars to speed through tolls."

The Pastor-CFR project, for "economic integration" of Mexamerica, is on the drawing board. North-south highways and railways would be built to weld us together as the American Union was welded together by the Northern Pacific, Union Pacific and Southern Pacific, and Ike's Interstate Highway System.

Speaking in Madrid in 2002, Mexican President Vicente Fox declared: "Our long-range objective is to establish with the United States ... an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as ... the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons. The new framework we wish to construct is inspired in the example of the European Union."

Critical element of the Fox post-NAFTA agenda: absolute freedom of movement for persons between Mexico and the United States -- a merger of the nations. Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Debrez put it succinctly in April 2005. What Mexico is about is "complete integration" of the two nations.

To appreciate what Fox, Debrez, Pastor and the CFR wish America to merge with, consider a few excerpts from the State Department information sheet on Mexico.

While hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens marched beneath Mexican flags in U.S. cities on May Day to demand amnesty, Mexico's constitution "prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detentions and deportations."

"Crime in Mexico continues at high levels, and it is often violent, especially in Mexico City, Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo (and) Acapulco," State warns U.S. travelers. "Low apprehension rates and conviction rates of criminals contribute to the high crime rate."

"Women traveling alone are especially vulnerable. ... Victims ... have been raped, robbed of personal property or abducted and then held while their credit cards are used at various businesses and automatic teller machines. ... Kidnapping, including the kidnapping of non-Mexicans, continues at alarming rates."

When Fox proposed his merger of America and Mexico in a North American Union, Robert Bartley, for 30 years editorial page editor of The Wall Street Journal, declared him a "visionary" and pledged solidarity: "He (Fox) can rest assured that there is one voice north of the Rio Grande that supports his vision ... this newspaper."

The American people never supported NAFTA, and they are angry over Bush's failure to secure the border -- but a shotgun marriage between our two nations appears prearranged. Central feature: a ten-lane, 400-yard-wide NAFTA Super Highway from the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, up to and across the U.S. border, all the way to Canada. Within the median strip dividing the north and south car and truck lanes would be rail lines for both passengers and freight traffic, and oil and gas pipelines.

As author Jerome Corsi describes this Fox-Bush autobahn, container ships from China would unload at Lazaro Cardenas, a port named for the Mexican president who nationalized all U.S. oil companies in 1938. From there, trucks with Mexican drivers would run fast lines into the United States, hauling their cargo to a U.S. customs inspection terminal -- in Kansas City, Mo. From there, the trucks would fan out across America or roll on into Canada. Similar super-highways from Mexico through the United States into Canada are planned.

According to Corsi, construction of the Trans-Texas Corridor, the first leg of the NAFTA Super Highway, is to begin next year.

The beneficiaries of this NAFTA Super Highway project would be the contractors who build it and the importers and outlet stores for the Chinese-manufactured goods that would come flooding in. The losers would be U.S. longshoremen, truckers, manufacturers and taxpayers.

The latter would pay the cost of building the highway in Mexico and the United States, both in dollars and in the lost sovereignty of our once-independent American republic.

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If this doesn't make...
....you physically ill, you are unAmerican.

I hate to be a spoilsport
But, um, in a merger of the US, Mexico, and Canada, what's in it for the US?

One of the MOST upsetting ideas in this
Containers would NOT be INSPECTED UNTIL KANSAS!

The center of the USA is Kansas!

Kelo makes this a nightmare reality.

Spanish highway, running Mexican trucks to American ports with NO inspections.

CUTTING AMERICA INTO TWO

Divide and Conquesta anyone?

Woo Hoo!
Thank God I voted for George Bush! Now I know that illegal aliens are just like us. And war is peace!

Seriously, eh, anyone know how hard it is to get citizenship in Poland? I think I may go back to the homeland.

I Wonder
if it is already too late to stop Mexamerica?

To tanabear
These ideas come from the Council on Foreign Relations, CFR. You can read the whole report in PDF format. Just google "Building a North American Community." It's the second entry under the link to the CFR web site. It indicates it's a PDF document, so you'll know it when you see it.

This link is to the CFR web page offering the book for sale, but there is a synopsis of it there.

Building a North American Community

Chairs:
John P. Manley
Pedro Aspe
William F. Weld

Vice Chairs:
Thomas P. D'Aquino
Andres Rozental
Robert A. Pastor

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/


By the way tanabear
Unlike treaties, the President can make agreements relating to foreign affairs without approval from the Senate. That's how Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA. Notice NAFTA is an agreement, not a treaty, which requires the hard to get 2/3 vote of the Senate.

In the United States, treaty-making power lies with the President, with consent of the Senate. The President (usually the President's representatives) negotiates, drafts, and signs all treaties. Until the Senate consents, however, the signed treaty has no force of law. The President may choose to submit the treaty to the Senate immediately, or wait until there is a greater likelihood of obtaining the necessary two-thirds vote. Many treaties signed by the United States have never been ratified, not because Senate rejected them, but because they were withdrawn from the Senate or never submitted by the President. If the Senate approves, the treaty is officially ratified and proclaimed by the President.

Note that "executive agreements" (which are less formal than treaties) may be concluded by the President without consent of the Senate, under his constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs. For further information, see Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress, Treaties and Other International Agreements: The Role of the United States Senate, 106th Congress (Comm. Print 2001), Firestone Library, Social Science Reference Center (DOCS) Y4.F76/2:S.PRT.106-71. Also available on the Web here.

http://www.princeton.edu/~law/treatyguide.html




Party cohesion: Right's crazy fringe
This is great Pat. If you can manage to split and divide the party, the Dems will control the legislature! Best of all, you'll have your liberal boogeyman to keep your power base in line! Sure, the country will suffer, and we'll be even further from the goals to which you pay lip service, but you'll get more spotlight time and we know that comes with a price.

Keep up the self serving work.

Re: traditionalist's comments
Unlike treaties, the President can make agreements relating to foreign affairs without approval from the Senate. That's how Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA. Notice NAFTA is an agreement, not a treaty, which requires the hard to get 2/3 vote of the Senate.

So I guess the vote in the House AND Senate, which I saw on CSPAN in November 1993, was just window dressing, eh? And if this agreement is as unpopular as Buchanan would have us believe, why hasn't there been a massive push by voters and Congress to pull out?

Time to push the panic button?
Reading this alarmist piece (and yes, I agree that the idea suggested by the CFR is preposterous)...one gets the impression that all of this will begin happening tomorrow. As a resident of TX, I have yet to hear about a "NAFTA superhighway" beyond the rhetoric of local officials who want increased trade with Mexico.
Besides, what must be considered is the fact that the other two countries - Canada and Mexico - wouldn't be all that keen on this idea as it is. Canada gets its entire national identity and reason for living by they saying "we are not Americans". Mexico has questions of national identity of its own that make it extremely unlikely they would ever merge with the United States. I would argue that the wave of illegal immigration (that we are indeed failing to control as we should be doing!) we have been seeing is Mexico simply getting rid of citizens it simply doesn't want in its country for various reasons, instead of doing what it can to make them welcome, economically productive citizens that would not dream of emigrating.
By all means, let's be mindful of anyone who suggests the United States cough up its national sovereignty. But at the same time bear in mind that there are serious cultural and historical barriers to ANY future integration of the three NAFTA signatories. Just because Vicente Fox says he would like to see NAFTA turn into an EU like institution,doesn't mean that idea will see the light of day. (Nor should it.)

Who Else Is There?
Shawn writes:
"...you'll have your liberal boogeyman to keep your power base in line!"

Am I missing something? PB has no power over me (or anyone else) that I am aware of. He is a writer/political commentator, not a politician.

Shawn writes:
"If you can manage to split and divide the party, the Dems will control the legislature!"

Why should conservatives be divided over the issue of whether or not we want our country invaded and our autonomy disolved? Anyone who supports invasion and dissolution of America could not properly be identified as a conservative. All PB is doing is informing us of what those who think they know best for us have in store. Maybe this is the perfect opportunity for all conservatives to unite and finally do something about the state of affairs that the liberals/communists/socialists/democrats
have brought us to.

Which brings me to the title of this post (referring to our next President of course). I know PB has his problems. He has run, unseccessfully, before. But it seems that things are getting pretty broke around here. Who is going to be man enough to really fix things and get us back on track? Algore? Hillary? McCain? God help us if any of those people get their hands on the reins...

Maybe Pat For President is not such a bad idea, considering the alternatives that exist at present. Just a thought for consideration by the many articulate thinkers among the Townhall audience...

For a buck
How much is the soul of the US worth? That's the question.

This is getting sick.

I seem to remember that I-69
Through Indiana did NOT pass voters. And this is another big stretch of the transAmerican highway (or SPP or NAFTA superhighway).

It was a couple of years ago. Anybody from Indiana? It was supposed to go from Evansville to Indianapolis if I remember right.

And Tennessee voted on I-69 also, but I can't remember how the vote went. ( I do know they got a LOT of money in the highway bill.)


Superhighway
Is the highway to be made of Mexicans? If not, then the superhighway is not an immigration proposal.

I favor the superhighway, because trade makes us powerful. Any immigration proposal will have to pass the house of representatives, and you can be sure that they won't pass something so stupid as the end of America, because if they were to do so, they would be voted out and the whole thing would be reversed within 24 months. Pity the same things cannot be said of the Sinate.

What price America?
For all the so called “free trade” people that would throw their bodies on a grenade to protect business like Walmart, Who do you think is driving the relentless push to bypass the expensive longshoremen In Los Angeles?

Free trade is supposed to mean that the person who sells the best fruit, with the lowest prices, and has the best service is supposed to prosper, not the one who kills all the other fruit peddlers.

Corporations are economic collectives with special protection from the government so that the stockholders are not liable for anything done by the corporation. As these economic collectives grow in size, they demand that the government give them what they want. They got NAFTA, now they are seeking to further concessions.

The last merger will be between Walmart and the government. When we all work for the state and wait in line for three days on the rumor that a shipment of shoes is to arrive, will we ask ourselves, “Did we really defeat communism”?

Fear the Barbarians, Surely.
In his recent book, Buchanan mentioned the Barbarians, crossing the Rhine and Danube Rivers, eventually bringing an end to the Roman Empire. Did it, really?

If one really knows what he is talking about, talking about that era, one soon learns, yes, the Barbarians really envied those Roman togas they could see being worn by the peoples on the other side of those rivers.

The first thing the new arrivals did was to get jobs washing and ironing those very same togas. Not long after, areas of the Roman Empire were called France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Great Britain, etc. But even before that, the Centurians were reporting back to Rome that a lot of signs were appearing in the villages saying, "Se Habla Visgoth."

Buchanan himself is a descendant of some Barbarians who took their lands back from the Romans. And without all those Barbarians, we would never have heard of Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Pasteur, Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Sir Francis Drake, Henry Hudson, Geroge Washington, Thomas Jefferson...all the rest...anyone you care to add (including yourself and me). I am sure there are a few Celts in there, somewhere. Maybe I would mention Geroge Bernard Shaw, had he not been a Commie sympathizer. Well, he could still write pretty good.

Not that the "rump" of the Roman Empire didn't produce a few notables also: Galileo, Michelangelo, Christopher Columbus.

Funny, even the "universal" language of the Romans disappeared -- the Romans themselves gave it up.

I really do not wish to learn "Espanol," but if they've got a George Washington or Thomas Jefferson among them, we could really use him right now.

What we would get?
Someone asked what is in this for the United States? For one thing, a stronger relationship with countries to our north and south that are rich in natural resources. Truly free trade in our hemisphere helps us all. By the way, Spanish is a vibrant, culturally rich language. Embrace it. Learn it. Make yourself a better person.

The AU (American Union)
No waves the American flag with more pride and vigor than I do, but I have been involved in trade over both borders (Canada & Mex) for over 10 years. Trade barriers are not going to help the US.

I won't bore you with bureaucratic details, but we can't inhibit the natural flow of goods across international borders. Like it or not, the current trade environment is global (that really pisses off the socialists!)

Our interstate highway system is good but aging. Anyone who lives in the northeast can advise you on that. I-81 through western Virginia is egregious. We need to think not just 21st century but 22nd, too.

Fences may make good neighbors, but free trade makes good friends. Canada is a good friend (ask any of their veterans who fought in Korea & Afghanistan)), but Mexico is our slovenly brother-in-law who really needs an intervention.

While we can't simply make international borders disappear, we can make our southern neighbor clean up his act. Bush needs to put pressure on Fox and the socialists and the drug dealers in Mexico. We, as a free society, simply cannot abide the oppression and economic incompetence of Mexico which forces millions to come north.


When are we going to do something
about this nonsense. These people are not going to stop with this "one world" government concept unless we rise up and fight back. I am so tired of feeling helpless and betrayed by these people. Their obnoxiousness is getting worse and worse. They don’t even try to hide it any more. It’s almost as if they are laughing at us. The left has turned every public venue (politics, education, the legal system and the media) into a “destroy America” machine. This nonsense has to stop.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but this citizen is ready to get in the fight. I want to do something that’s going to make a long-term difference. Something that will turn this ship around and start moving this country back in the “right” direction.

What we need is an on the ground, old fashioned grass roots effort at the national level. We need a way to get around the “hate America” media and all the self-serving, egocentric politicians. We need a way for the silent majority to make our voices heard. I know there are plenty of you who are just as frustrated as I am about not being able to do anything. All we need is a way to channel our frustration into coordinated action. As a first step, I have created a Blog dedicated to this objective. I named it the Reclaim America Project (RAP).

If you, too, are ready for action, and would like to be a part of this movement, please join us at Reclampro.townhall.com, We would appreciate your thoughts and input. Let the RAP begin!!!



One more way of...
proving that the Bible is true to Its Word... Daniel 7:23-24... "He gave me this explanation: "'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. 24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.'" The "fourth beast" was the Roman Empire, which was never completely eliminated... it fell, but never died. We have too many countries in this world now, that we have to consolidate ourselves back into ten regions. The US, along with Mexico and Canada, will become a part of one "kingdom"... just like the EU is one "kingdom".

For those of you who have your heads in the sand and say "it ain't happening", guess again. Why do you think that Bush, Fox, and the Canadian PM met earlier this year (or was it last year)? You think they're gonna tell us the truth? They know darn well that the American public, as well as the Canadian, are going to balk big time over this. Look at what happened over the port inspection/control issue... and the riots/protests of the Mexican people within our midst this past summer? All part of the plan. This will be their big solution to the problem, and the US will lose her sovereignty. I don't like it anymore than any of you, but obviously, it's in God's Plan to bring His Son back to reign... and we must go through the pain of "childbirth" once again to have His Sovereignty again. I, for one, say... Maranatha, Lord Jesus!

Boil that frog
The US people have been boiling in a pot and don't even know it.
When the illegal immigrants 'boycotted' in May I was shocked how nice it was to drive in south Florida.

What other problems is the country unwittingly made to endure because our gov't baloney throws nice senerios about superhighways and open trade?

This culture is at stake, forget the trade malarkee. Our culture has made us the most powerfull economy in the world not the other way around. But no. We, the US want more, more stuff.

RAP?
I'm with you! But what can we do, besides this? What's the plan?

RAP, your link...
doesn't work... it circles back to here! misspelling?

Open borders are a problem
Mexico continues to expoit natural resources without benifit to either the US or the citizens of Mexico. Mexico nearly went the way of other leftest countries in Central and South America in the election. This demonstrates the lack of Mexico's ability to manage its resouces and wealth beyond a select few benefactors. They do not care about the US except as a dumping ground for "undesirables".

The bottom line here is the bottom line. Pat tends to blame the liberals in the US for this but it is the corporations that benefit. The casino and hospitality industries, construction, retail and agri-business loves this cheap labor and can run down wages in the US and not pay benefits. This is not free trade, this is corruption but since there is no enforcement everthing is fine.

The administration and most of congress believes their political future and the future of the country is controlled by these corporations. Its the money. These companies really do not care about increased burdens on education, public health care or other government progams. If things get too expensive they can move offshore and things roll along. If the government wants to build a highwy, great! Its good for business. I do not believe this is good for the country. The money does not stay in the US and much of it is currently going to finance the development of China.

The citizens of the US are loosing all around and are paying for the wealth of a few. Visit Mexico City and see if that is the life you want to live.




Sovereignty
It boggles the mind that our politicians would give away the sovereignty that our military has fought for over the history of our nation.

We have people dieing and being maimed in Iraq to protect the U.S.A. Meanwhile, our politicians are doing everything they can to give away our country as we know it.

They crafted an amnesty program in the Senate that the Congressional Budget Office estimates will cost the taxpayer $126,000,000,000 over ten years. That is $12.6 billion a year to support people who broke the law to get here.

But that isn't enough for our elected guardians. They want to take two whole countries under our wing and erase the U.S.A. completely.

Look at the European Union... is that what you want for your children and grandchildren? If not,
send a message to your elected officials to kill the amnesty bill and withdraw from NAFTA!

how to fix it
Keep voting straight ticket. That will fix it, guaranteed.

Swearing In Ceremony
Didn't GWB say something to the effect:
"I promise to . . .preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States . . ." When he was sworn in?

And are his actions in contravention of that oath?

If so, is impeachment in order?

If not, why not?

Kodiak60 re the RAP link
There are two ways to access the link. I copied it and pasted it in another web browser and got it. You can also click on my name and it leads to the Blog as well.

As for the plan, I just created the Blog yesterday. Right now I'm trying to see how much interest there is in taking action versus just talking. So far only you and two others have indicated an interest.

If things pick up, I'm planning to organize a discussion to share my ideas and develop a strategic action plan. The ultimate goal is to develop a grass root level, national political action network that will focus on getting like minded people elected at all levels. In short, take back our nations institution, community by community, city by city, state by state. That is how the left hijacked everything. One step at a time.

Please email me if you'd like more specific details (reclampro@hotmail.com). Thanks for your interest.

PREEMPTIVE SURRENDER
How liberal a notion. The EU model of no economic growth, 10% unemployment, no military, socialism and slowly being over-run by Islamofacism is simply irrestible.

I can't wait, let's surrender now.


Trans Texas Corridor and NAFTA
The Trans Texas Corridor (TTC)is the first leg of the planned NAFTA Super Highway, a highway that has been in the works since NAFTA was adopted back in the 90s.
As promoted by Governor Rick Perry and Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT)head Rick Williamson, TTC will span one quarter mile and consume over 500 million acres of Texas private property.
The contract to build that behemoth was awarded to a private Spanish company Cintra, and a San Antonio, Texas contractor, Zachry. Even though the Texas Attorney General ruled the public is entitled to know details of the contract, Governor Perry and TxDOT sued to keep that information secret. The case goes to trial this fall, before the general election.
During the "dog and pony show" hearings TxDOT conducted throughout Central Texas this summer, thousands of outraged Texans gathered to tell Governor Perry and his henchmen they don't want any part of TTC.
TTC will split farms and ranches causing owners to drive great distances to access their land. The new road will be tolled, according to plans, a fact that angers many who rightfully believe it amounts to double taxation in that we Texans, along with every other American taxpayer, shells out highway taxes with every penny spent at the gas station as well as other excise taxes state and federal governments pile on us.
TxDOT is trying to sell TTC on the hopes a gullible public will buy their arguments that we must build for future growth. We are not that gullible. Who stands to gain the most? One needs look no farther than politicians and big business: money and power.

TTC has been crammed down the throats of Texans who have had no opportunity to accept or reject the Trans Texas Corridor. The arrogance of Governor Perry and his pals in the legislature and big business will be rewarded in November.


Hwy
If you haven't heard of the supper hwy. Check this web site out. I did because it is comming close to my property.http://www.keeptexasmoving.org/projects/ttc35/deis.aspx

One World Government
I pity you if you do not see that this is simply another BIG step toward the "One World Government" goal.

NAFTA superhightway
Just a thought writes: Tuesday, August, 29, 2006 7:01 AM I seem to remember that I-69 Through Indiana did NOT pass voters. And this is another big stretch of the transAmerican highway (or SPP or NAFTA superhighway).

It was a couple of years ago. Anybody from Indiana? It was supposed to go from Evansville to Indianapolis if I remember right.

And Tennessee voted on I-69 also, but I can't remember how the vote went. ( I do know they got a LOT of money in the highway bill.)

The governor of Indiana, Jim Daniels, was one of G.W.'s early Cabinet memebers. He pushed the I-69 extension from Indianapolis to Evansville through as a corridor of free trade from Canada, via Detroit/Windsor to Mexico. It is also going to be a toll road from Indianapolis to Evansville. He is not the first governor to push this. Bayh was behind it also when he was in there and so was the late Governor O'Bannon. So this road dividing the nation is already just a matter of time and concrete. No more politicing is needed; it is a done deal. Just the route is not what you thought.

Death To Conservatism
Yeah, now there's a "brilliant" idea: swamp the conservative vote in America by drowning it under the votes of our two socialist neighbors, Canada and Mexico! AAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!

The North American Union is a Socialist Wet Dream.

NAFTA Superhighway
I am not un-american but I do think this deserves more than a quick negative response. It is very possible that it would solve several problems facing the United States: Changing economics, over-powerful unions, and declining birthrates.

NAFTA
I have an idea: how about these open-borders advocates lead the way by removing their front doors, pull down their fences, and deactivate their security services so that anyone can enter their homes before recommending this nonsense to the rest of us.

Here is something believers can do
I urge that requests, prayers, intercessions, and thanks be offered on behalf of all people, even for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.

The Apostle Paul wrote this to Timothy

I need remember this and begin here.

Disingenuous
Pat is deliberately misleading people to transfer their righteous anger over our failure to protect our borders to his jihad against free trade. However, free trade DOES NOT equal open borders and loss of sovreignity. I praised Clinton for his support of NAFTA and free trade in general. Most people don't have the slightest clue about the economics of free trade, or even know what NAFTA is. They may support populist demagoguery claiming to "save American jobs" without understanding that they are funding inefficient producers out of their own pocketbook. Perhaps Merrygoboy can tell us whom it is exactly that the "Robber Barons" robbed? In fact, they brought us inexpensive energy, travel and consumer goods--the term "robber baron" is just another leftist/socialist myth. The fact is, free trade benefits everyone who participates, and if you want third world countries to stop using child labor and polluting, the best way to do it is to make them first world countries--only wealthy societies can afford environmentalism. And the best way to make them first world countries is through trade.

What is the solution?
Our representative government is broken. We have rewarded poor representation by reelection of the scoundrels. The only thing we seem to want is pork barrel money from Washington. It is time that we the people start doing our civic duty and dump incumbent politicians. The primary election is already over but many incumbents easily cleared the primary. Should we reward them? If they have demonstrated they support what we want then reelect them this time. At the next primary elect a different person. If your congressman is not supporting your principles then vote for another person.

It is time that we return to a nation that loves the law and is governed by people that respect and adhere to the constitution.

Pray for our country. God may help us but our country has much to answer to God about. For the sake of our children and their children we must begin to correct the errors that our country has made lawful. We have much work to do and that work cannot be done by a country divided. Let us come together and save this country.

For honest information on TTC
For those who wish to learn more about the Trans Texas Corridor go to: http://www.corridorwatch.org. It is an excellent source that reveals the real deal on TTC; information TXDOT, Governor Perry's highwaymen, don't want the public to know.

The whole picture
Pat Buchanan may be a perennial political loser, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. He is right on the money this time, and he is NOT alone.

The pieces are the Security and Prosperity Partnership, the Trans-Texas Corridor, NAFTA and CAFTA, the North American Union, unfettered immigration by people who hate us... and our biggest problem by far is with the illegals from south of the border with Mexico.

It is all part of the Plan, and it has been on George Bush's agenda from the beginning. Yes, I voted for him twice, God forgive me. On February 16, 2001, within a month of taking the OATH to preserve, protect and defend this nation from all enemies foreign and domestic, he was in Mexico with Fox. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010216-3.html

What I saw when I lived in Mexico in the '70's was a generation of little children being taught that the USA stole 55% of what WAS Mexico, and they hate us. Make no mistake about this. They are not brought up with a respect for the Rule of Law, because ***their own leaders have none.*** This is why they don't understand our anger, and this is why they will NOT assimilate.

Until now, only the fear of reprisals has kept them from being open about it, but there have been no reprisals. The most timid of those who hate us will soon lose all motivation to be silent about it.

They don't want "a house like yours." They want YOUR HOUSE and everything in it. It is not just a fringe group that wants to drive those of European or African or Asian descent from this country. There is good reason to believe that there are a lot of silent illegals who, like our silent majority, are followers, not leaders.

Those cities and towns like Hazelton, PA, which have awakened to the destruction of their culture are a sign of what is real and threatening.

The only people who will come out ahead in this mess are those who belong to the same class that came out ahead in the Industrial Revolution. And that isn't US, the middle class. Love of money is what will drive this nation over the proverbial cliff, and America as we know it will not be available to our grandchildren unless they "marry well." The flood of illegals from the south will turn this nation into a mirror image of Mexico, with only the super-rich, the very poor and a practically non-existant middle class. There will be NO trickle down economy, no pensions, a bankrupt social security sooner than anticipated, no health care for any of us as more and more hospitals close... Since illegals are already collecting more in welfare and other benefits than they put into the system, our own poor and sick people are going begging.

You can believe George Bush when he says he doesn't pay attention to polls. He doesn't pay attention to US, because he has found ways to circumvent our Constitution and pervert it to his own ends.

What can we do? Raise a stink about electronic voting machines which leave no paper trail, and volunteer as election judges. Urge people to vote absentee *with paper ballots.* Vote out the Senators and Representatives and Governors who support amnesty in any form. Urge your state reps and senators and governors to do the things which the Constitution guarantees are within the power of the states. Get the borders secured. Stop the Trans-Texas Corridor and other similar projects which will wall off the East from the West. Support whatever legislation you can to get the illegals to self- deport: fine landlords and employers of the illegals and STOP the looting of our social services. (Have you been in a hospital emergency room lately? It's worth the trip, just to observe.)

I have done my own research for months and years, and Pat Buchanan is right. Time is running out.

The whole picture
Pat Buchanan may be a perennial political loser, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. He is right on the money this time, and he is NOT alone.

The pieces are the Security and Prosperity Partnership, the Trans-Texas Corridor, NAFTA and CAFTA, the North American Union, unfettered immigration by people who hate us... and our biggest problem by far is with the illegals from south of the border with Mexico.

It is all part of the Plan, and it has been on George Bush's agenda from the beginning. Yes, I voted for him twice, God forgive me. On February 16, 2001, within a month of taking the OATH to preserve, protect and defend this nation from all enemies foreign and domestic, he was in Mexico with Fox. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010216-3.html

What I saw when I lived in Mexico in the '70's was a generation of little children being taught that the USA stole 55% of what WAS Mexico, and they hate us. Make no mistake about this. They are not brought up with a respect for the Rule of Law, because ***their own leaders have none.*** This is why they don't understand our anger, and this is why they will NOT assimilate.

Until now, only the fear of reprisals has kept them from being open about it, but there have been no reprisals. The most timid of those who hate us will soon lose all motivation to be silent about it.

They don't want "a house like yours." They want YOUR HOUSE and everything in it. It is not just a fringe group that wants to drive those of European or African or Asian descent from this country. There is good reason to believe that there are a lot of silent illegals who, like our silent majority, are followers, not leaders.

Those cities and towns like Hazelton, PA, which have awakened to the destruction of their culture are a sign of what is real and threatening.

The only people who will come out ahead in this mess are those who belong to the same class that came out ahead in the Industrial Revolution. And that isn't US, the middle class. Love of money is what will drive this nation over the proverbial cliff, and America as we know it will not be available to our grandchildren unless they "marry well." The flood of illegals from the south will turn this nation into a mirror image of Mexico, with only the super-rich, the very poor and a practically non-existant middle class. There will be NO trickle down economy, no pensions, a bankrupt social security sooner than anticipated, no health care for any of us as more and more hospitals close... Since illegals are already collecting more in welfare and other benefits than they put into the system, our own poor and sick people are going begging.

You can believe George Bush when he says he doesn't pay attention to polls. He doesn't pay attention to US, because he has found ways to circumvent our Constitution and pervert it to his own ends.

What can we do? Raise a stink about electronic voting machines which leave no paper trail, and volunteer as election judges. Urge people to vote absentee *with paper ballots.* Vote out the Senators and Representatives and Governors who support amnesty in any form. Urge your state reps and senators and governors to do the things which the Constitution guarantees are within the power of the states. Get the borders secured. Stop the Trans-Texas Corridor and other similar projects which will wall off the East from the West. Support whatever legislation you can to get the illegals to self- deport: fine landlords and employers of the illegals and STOP the looting of our social services. (Have you been in a hospital emergency room lately? It's worth the trip, just to observe.)

I have done my own research for months and years, and Pat Buchanan is right. Time is running out.

The whole picture
Pat Buchanan may be a perennial political loser, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. He is right on the money this time, and he is NOT alone.

The pieces are the Security and Prosperity Partnership, the Trans-Texas Corridor, NAFTA and CAFTA, the North American Union, unfettered immigration by people who hate us... and our biggest problem by far is with the illegals from south of the border with Mexico.

It is all part of the Plan, and it has been on George Bush's agenda from the beginning. Yes, I voted for him twice, God forgive me. On February 16, 2001, within a month of taking the OATH to preserve, protect and defend this nation from all enemies foreign and domestic, he was in Mexico with Fox. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010216-3.html

What I saw when I lived in Mexico in the '70's was a generation of little children being taught that the USA stole 55% of what WAS Mexico, and they hate us. Make no mistake about this. They are not brought up with a respect for the Rule of Law, because ***their own leaders have none.*** This is why they don't understand our anger, and this is why they will NOT assimilate.

Until now, only the fear of reprisals has kept them from being open about it, but there have been no reprisals. The most timid of those who hate us will soon lose all motivation to be silent about it.

They don't want "a house like yours." They want YOUR HOUSE and everything in it. It is not just a fringe group that wants to drive those of European or African or Asian descent from this country. There is good reason to believe that there are a lot of silent illegals who, like our silent majority, are followers, not leaders.

Those cities and towns like Hazelton, PA, which have awakened to the destruction of their culture are a sign of what is real and threatening.

The only people who will come out ahead in this mess are those who belong to the same class that came out ahead in the Industrial Revolution. And that isn't US, the middle class. Love of money is what will drive this nation over the proverbial cliff, and America as we know it will not be available to our grandchildren unless they "marry well." The flood of illegals from the south will turn this nation into a mirror image of Mexico, with only the super-rich, the very poor and a practically non-existant middle class. There will be NO trickle down economy, no pensions, a bankrupt social security sooner than anticipated, no health care for any of us as more and more hospitals close... Since illegals are already collecting more in welfare and other benefits than they put into the system, our own poor and sick people are going begging.

You can believe George Bush when he says he doesn't pay attention to polls. He doesn't pay attention to US, because he has found ways to circumvent our Constitution and pervert it to his own ends.

What can we do? Raise a stink about electronic voting machines which leave no paper trail, and volunteer as election judges. Urge people to vote absentee *with paper ballots.* Vote out the Senators and Representatives and Governors who support amnesty in any form. Urge your state reps and senators and governors to do the things which the Constitution guarantees are within the power of the states. Get the borders secured. Stop the Trans-Texas Corridor and other similar projects which will wall off the East from the West. Support whatever legislation you can to get the illegals to self- deport: fine landlords and employers of the illegals and STOP the looting of our social services. (Have you been in a hospital emergency room lately? It's worth the trip, just to observe.)

I have done my own research for months and years, and Pat Buchanan is right. Time is running out.

To John Galt
Why is it in our interest to "lift" third world nations to first world nations?

Super Highway
The big thing no one takes notice of is The
Presidents swear to protect the constitution of the United States. THE CONSTITUTION IS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We The People of The United States of America not We the People of The United States.
The Supreme Court has ruled there ars at least three possibly four United States.
The United States being sworn too, is the Constitution (corporate papers)of the Federal Reserve due to the Bankrupt (emergency) United States of 1933.So Adolf Bush is keeping his word.
If you think I am Nuts look up the Congress record from 1933.

Hate to Break it to you....
...But this plan has been long in the making by the CFR and other secret societies that have one goal, first to unify the European countries (which they have done) and then to likewise unify North and South America (which they are doing now), and finally to bring the entire civilized world under a single, unified Government (New World Order). The members of these Secret Societies will stand at the head of this government, and unbridled power is their ultimate goal. If articles like these get you all worked up, then go buy Michael Bradley's "The Secret Societies Handbook" which I first bought just because it looked cool but after reading it, I really wondered if any of these societies are as subversive and dangerous as they are made out to be. Then I start reading articles like this one and Phyllis Schlafly's, who has been writing about the CFR for some time now, and realize that these societies DO exist, and they are quietly making their move toward world domination while none of us are looking. The only way to beat them is: expose, expose, expose. Great Article, Pat!

Providus
If you take the liberal mantra of "helping the poor" seriously, then you should embrace free global trade wholeheartedly. Only through free trade and foreign investment can third world poverty, illiteracy and disease be brought under control. Hand-outs to corrupt governments in these countries have no effect.

Further, liberal (in the classical sense of the word) trade policy benefits us, as well. As I mentioned before, only wealthy societies can afford environmentalism. So if you want to "save the planet", don't look to the cleanest society (ours), look to the dirtiest. Wealthy countries do not make war on their trading partners. And as their wealth and productivity increase, they become a growing market for our goods and services. Finally, we benefit in the form of lower priced goods and services and more efficient use of our own economic means through free trade.

To learn more, pick up any international economics text and look up "comparative advantage." You can follow this up with a reading of Joseph Schumpeter's work on creative destruction. But your liberalism may not survive.

merrygoboy writes . . .
that we can't have a Global Economy and free trade because the PRC sucks in regard to child labor, pollution, etc.

My take is that we've had a global economy since the days of Phoenicians trading with Egyptians. There's a great document from that time, written in first person, of a trader having immense problems with the harbor master and payment of fees. I wish I could remember more of it.

Anyway, although the PRC is a communist nation and therefor an enemy of capitalism, they did split ideologically with the old USSR in 1955. Look who's still standing.

To be sure, the PRC has a long way to go environmentally and in labor relations (especially mine safety), but they are heading in the right direction. Turning a country of 1 billion (+) population from communism to free-market capitalism isn't easy or fast.

The USA beat the USSR into the ground by showing the Soviet people that capitalism didn't subjugate and oppress American workers. When the people in communist regimes understand that capitalist workers have it much better than communist workers, which ideology will survive?

The vast majority of Mexicans entering this country illegally don't do it because they want to be Americans, they come here for HIGH-PAYING JOBS. That, merrygoboy, is pure free-market capitalism at work.

JohnGalt...
..."Only through free trade and foreign investment can third world poverty, illiteracy and disease be brought under control."

This only enriches oppressive governments. They need a liberal "(in the classical sense of the word)" government who would not crush its citizens through taxation and reap the wealth.

Comments
DavidMac - Fox is the presidente anymore. I love your comments, though, and I agree with them.

snotonmyscreen - you have THE best handle

Billy
Yes, I think you're nuts, but there's no way I'm going to read the entire Congressional Report from 1933. Please provide a pin cite.

The Demon called History.
So, the mad evil self important money cult in control of Washinton D.C. and our Constitution
now nears its moment in time with the Demon called History.

There is in the distance a tree line and in the early morning light only the huge dark shadow can be made out, looking, looking, closer to see
now its clear the light just a little better, oh my God a Demon and he sits upon a huge black horse, a horse and a rider with huge red angry eyes, and the anger in the Demon called History now causes the horse to action and from within the darkness of the trees he surges, the red angry eyes of the Demon spear ahead looking for the guilty who have lied about his true Histoy, and those who now cover the American Constitution with an evil hand, these rich elite
who with the aide and comfort of what is known as the msm are tilting the true History over and it is near a tumble, but the eyes the angry red demon eyes they search for the guilty, on he and the huge horse charge now ever more angry, and they will find those guilty and there will be judgement, for True History always finds its true justice, now that the word spreads of the evil works of the ones of the evil money cult,
there is danger to the evil ones and some will now try to slip away , leaving lies on their trail of other lies, pointing long boney fingers at the others,,, "there Demon" that one he wrote the first paper, or that one he collects the money we split up in the earnings we report to the stock option ones its them for sure not us
we are just the elected ones and we only vote as told, not us,,, but when they look behind to see if they are escapeing unharmed and with the money, the Demon is only EVER NEAR,,clop, clop,
clop, CLOP, CLOP, CLOP, JUDGEMENT COMES FOR THEM

NAFTA Superhighway
How would such a plan be implemented? I can't see the Canadians agreeing to merge with the US - unless it was as Southern Canada....

Nafta Super highway
jerubaal

http://www.halexandria.org/dward282.htm

work is done for you read it and see who is nuts

Exactly Jimbo!
Jimbo writes: Tuesday, August, 29, 2006 12:16 PM

NAFTA

I have an idea: how about these open-borders advocates lead the way by removing their front doors, pull down their fences, and deactivate their security services so that anyone can enter their homes before recommending this nonsense to the rest of us.

The 'common good' means 'watch out'
I have heard politicians come up with schemes for more years than most of the readers have been alive, but I have NEVER heard one say his/her plan will "make things worse". If all the political promises had been fulfilled according what we were told to expect, America would surely be close to resembling the biblical Garden of Eden or some other Utopian arrangement.

I am now approaching 73 and I have heard politicians say such and such legislation must be passed for "the common good" (in various forms, including "the general welfare") hundreds of times at least but they do NOT mean what the expression was intended to mean -- something that benefits all or the vast majority of the total population who will be affected by this particular "good thing".

So, when politicians by and large are "for" something, we should be clear in our minds that it is the "common good" (or welfare) of the politicians, their families and cronies that these folks are caring about -- NOT the common good of their constituents.

If you don't believe me, then just refer to all the "benevolent" legislation passed in the past few years or decades and ask if such legislation solved problems for the "common good" or actually created more problems that were extremely divisive -- the opposite of "the common good".

The U.S. and the Constitution
It's getting a little late but I think it's about time the American people demanded our government back. We are supposed to be a REPUBLIC!!

Jimmy Carter gave away the Panama Canal (the
chinese have it now.
William Jefferson Clinton gave most of our manufactoring to foreigners;

Now Bush wants to take our country away from us! (I voted for him!) Our Ports are owned by foreigners!

This is supposed to be a Republic. That is a type of government based on a set of LAWS. I don't give a damn if the Murderers or the democrats, Child molesters or atheists like it or not it's time to go back to the Ten Commandments. This country is OURS!! I don't care who they are--if they don't like our Republic--go some place else

A.J. Evans

It'll come gradually
Free, unfettered trade is an unquestionably beneficial enterprise that improves our lot as a people. I would suggest, however, that NAFTA and its offshoots are not true free trade agreements.

I don't know how many hundred pages of rules and regulations the NAFTA agreement contains, but I'm sure it's an onerous document to say the least. A true free trade agreement would be a page or two. Lower or eliminate tariffs and you've got free trade.

If you read the fine print you'd probably conclude that NAFTA is nothing but a miasma of special interest influence. Lawyers craft these documents in the dark of night and few, even the politicians, know what they really say.

But this whole North American community stuff would be NAFTA on steroids. Talk about bureaucracy. Our national sovereignty would inexorably be stripped away by an unaccountable international regulatory and judicial system that would turn our Constitution on its head. Well, we've actually done that already, but you ain't seen nothin' yet if this baby isn't strangled in its cradle.

Representative government would grow increasingly irrelevant and confined to the margins of political discourse. The EU is governed by about 10,000 pages of laws and regulations, and we'd be in for the same.

It would be one thing if we were exporting the example of truly limited, constitutional government set forth by our Founders into areas where they do not exist. But we ourselves are no longer governed by those principles. And to the extent that we are, our national life would be drastically dilited by its association with Mexico in particular.

It's not like we'd be confidently and proudly expanding the sphere of Jeffersonian democracy to the benighted, while resisting their untidy influence.

We would be the ones having to accommodate foreign social and political values. In true democratic, multicultural and egalitarian style, we'd be the ones lowering ourselves to the meet the lowest common denominator. We wouldn't be held up as a model to emulate. That would be too nationalistic and judgmental. And we don't want to be judgmental.

We'd end up melting into a soupy porridge of multiculturalism and bilingualism, thrown in with a healthy dose of socialism. To all of this I say, "No, thank you". But those calling for this are crafty and determined individuals who will work behind the scenes to advance their vision, denying that they are doing so. If we're not vigilant, one day they may pull it off, without us ever realizing it was happening all along.


History yet does repeat itselft
I have to say, that this reminds me of what happened in Ancient Rome as well

The parallels between the two great Representative Republics is scary, but if we are brave enough to see them, we can avoid the same pitfalls that brought them to and end.

Remember, it was not until Rome centralized its authority, turned its back on Military funding and innovation and social wellfare programs made average Romans to lazy to lift a sword to defend their own city that the Barbarians were able to sack Rome. It happening again, but its not too late for us to stop it.

rabiddogg

Billy, See This is What I mean
http://www.halexandria.org/dward283.htm

"It should be noted, however, that several individuals have challenged the claim that this speech actually appears in the congressional record. In other words, the reported item below may be fiction. But the relevant issue is whether or not the contents are plausible and/or present valid arguments. This would be equivalent to Dan Brown's novel, The Da Vinci Code, which is a work of fiction, but which contains enough valid historical information to warrant more than a half dozen books "debunking" the novel. The same may be true here, where the facts are potentially valid even if not contained in the Congressional Record as claimed."

The publisher already linked the validity of James Traficant's statements to the validity of the Da Vinci Code. Do you honestly expect me to believe it now. Not only that, but the publisher even said that the existence of this statement in the Congressional Report may be a lie. The pin cite provided by the publisher goes to a debate on the federal budget for 1994-1998.

Even if the Congressional Record actually contains this alleged statement by Traficant - a known idiot of the Democrat variety - you still pulled a literature bluff telling me to go search the 1933 Congressional Record. Plus, all Traficant allegedly whines about is that his money cannot be traded in for some amount of gold or silver at a federal bank. Does anyone believe the gold standard is the standard of solvency? In the case of Spain, the gold standard prevented them from ever having an industrial revolution. You can print standardless paper money all you want - it's the same as gold. It's value will be based on the free-market principle of supply and demand.

Why do you need the value of your dollar to be officially linked to the value of gold or silver? Can you eat gold? Can you build a house out of silver? An even if you COULD do those things, why is the U.S. bankrupt if it chooses not to promote an artificial linking of currency to one or two squares on the periodic chart?

The evidence Traficant supposedly cited for why the U.S. is bankrupt: the Treasury Secretary gets no compensation. Yeah, real persuasive. Also made was a claim that all property in the U.S.A. is really owned as trustee by the feds for the benefit of the citizens. That's funny - the federal government hasn't given me squat, which is all I need to refute the claim.

Super highway -10 year old plan
Kansas City has been working on this deal for 10 years. They deny the "port of entry" will be "sovereign territory of Mexico" though. The drivers on the super-highway, according to some reports will be mostly Mexican drivers. The actual ports are needed, they claim, to relieve the overcrowding of U.S. ports on the West coast with Chinese imports and other Asian imports.

There is nothing new but we are just finding out what has been in the works for 10 years, even before Bush was elected.

Neither party has said much about "open borders" until "we the people," got ticked and the reason they didn't is because it is "not important" if you are going to have a NAU anyway and immigrate 100 million one way or the other to save social security and keep our "jobs growing" even if they are low wage jobs as we drive manufacturing out of the U.S. even more.

This and several other immigration issue are often discussed on the "Tree of Liberty Forum," a conservative forum.
http://azrepublicanissues.forumsplace.com/index.html

So what do we do about it?
Clearly, the government no longer represents the people. We serve the government, rather than the other way around. We feed it money and our productivity while it grows and acts in ways no sane American would desire or intend. It is not "our" government.

Exercising the vote does not rectify the problem, as some apple-pie chomping, rhetoric-spewing simpletons would have you think; we are merely given the choice between one brand of corruption versus another. True constitutionalists and true visionaries are "weeded out" even before they get so much as a foothold at the primary level.

Our nation becomes propped more and more upon the porous columns of diversity, political correctness, and multinationalism. Corruption is rampant in the judiciary, which has become more like a polyarchic state rather than a properly checked governmental branch. Our voices are emphatically ignored, stifled, or drowned out.

Putting Republicans in power does not seem to be helping. I don't care one bit about the witless nonsense emphasized by your popular radio show hosts--almost to a man, they are no more than Republican Party apologists. The Republican Party is weak, faithless, and off course.

Putting Democrats in power is tantamount to giving the asylum keys to dangerous lunatics.

For all my rambling, the original question still stands: what are we to do about it? We have been creeping steadily toward complete assimilation. The likes of which will eventually transform the American identity into no more than a memory.

super highway
jerubaal

Sorry for you ,None so blind as they who will not see. Which government do you work for???

Your opinion has been posted and you have been heard. Still a great enough country that there is freedom of speech.

Illegals
All of you should go to http://www.numbersusa.com to help with the effort to end illegal immigration. The people there have quite a good thing going.

Then there's my site: http://blogresponder.blogspot.com

merrygoboy . . .
I agree that the robber barons did not enhance capitalism. That's why I always try to distinguish them by posting "free-market capitalism". Today, they'd end up in prison for price-fixing.

I find it had to believe that, given a choice, anyone would chose totalitarianism a la N. Korea/Cuba over free-market capitalism. The way to defeat those regimes is economically. IMHO, the PRC has come to realize that. Remember the bad ol' days of Mao?

I'm saying that the socialist regimes will fall economically, not politically. Adam Smith (Wealth of Nations) pointed out that people do what's in their OWN SELF-INTEREST. He called England a "nation of shopkeepers." The mercantile system was dying, the Industiral Revolution was on the horizon. Growing pains notwithstanding, we (the human race) are infinitely better off today than 200 years ago, not because of politicians but in spite of them.

What we can do.
At current rates of GDP growth, China will pass the U.S. in less than a decade. At current rates, actually, in about 5 years. However, most don't see that growth being sustained but that they said that a decade ago too.

SlowTalkinJones writes:

So what do we do about it?
Clearly, the government no longer represents the people. We serve the government, rather than the other way around. We feed it money and our productivity while it grows and acts in ways no sane American would desire or intend. It is not "our" government.
quote:
HOW TYRANNY CAME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
By Greg Evensen
snip---------------------
“Get somebody else to do it!” “I’m to busy and don’t care about all of that.” “Listen, I do my best to get my kids to school and myself to work.” “Don’t bother me with this!” And so it is with Americans today.
snip--------------------
The perpetual tax leeches in Washington and state capitols count on your complacency for each new term. They count on your ignorance so that they can vote in one more international treaty, UN gun grab, or Agenda 21 subversive act, where our treasure is wasted and we are powerless in the process. That is why there is never useful or profound national change.

As a founder of Americans for Constitutional Enforcement, I believe your effort will be the last best hope for America. You are not alone.

I have called for a long overdue national coming together, a “Heartland USA (United for a Sovereign America) Summit” of some 1000 “grass roots” patriotic constitutional and freedom loving organizations in American to attend a mass meeting to be held in Kansas City next April 12-14.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg2.htm
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Supporting organizations like Armericans for Constitutional Enforcement is one way to "do something."

Read this article an you will have an even scarier view of what we have to do to turn this nation around from socialism's grasp on it.

Billy
True. And since you at least have source material, I no longer think you're nuts. We may not even have different evidentiary standards. I just disagree with you.

I work for no government.

NAFTA Superhighway = superstupidity
Those Amerians who support the NAFTA Superhighway must have a death wish. This project is the height of stupidity. It would hasten the suicide of our once great nation.

Why in God's name can a nation of nearly 300 million people not produce a system of government that's better than the mess we currently have? Are ignorance and shortsightedness prereqs for holding public office?

The Democrats and Republicans now in Washington should be ashamed of themselves. But they're too stupid and arrogant to recognize how much damage they've done, and continue to do, to our society.

It would be wonderful to see every single incumbent Congressman and Senator swept out of office in a wave of voter indignation. It would be a most refreshing change to, for once, have a president we could all be proud of. One with both intelligence, foresight and good judgement.
It would be a welcome encouragement to see American voters step up to the plate by using their ballots to clean house and start anew.

But it won't happen. Why? I wish I knew. To say this is discouraging would be a vast, vast understatement.

SPF writes:

It would be a welcome encouragement to see American voters step up to the plate by using their ballots to clean house and start anew.

But it won't happen. Why? I wish I knew.
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It won't happen because for over 50 years we have let socialists educate our children in higher learning and now in high schools and even elementary schools. That teaching includes the principles of socialism. The American voter has bought into socialism. That isn't social programs, but how we fund and adminster our social programs. The American voter believes he can "tax business and the top 2%" and dodge the cost of socialism. Wrong.

A low wage, pay check to pay check worker pays about 35% in hidden taxes and comliance costs, 7.5% payroll and in most states 8% sales and/or other taxes (also include gas taxes). For some low wage earners who like their “beer” they pay 42% tax in each bottle they buy. If they buy some “Jim Beam” it is 70% tax. Gas taxes for some are very high if they have to drive a long distance to their job. 30 to 40 cents a gallon in many states for fed, state, and local taxes.

The wealth redistribution system we have doesn’t tax the wealthy, it taxes middle and low income workers because the top is set up to pass it on. The wealthy will never actually pay taxes because their “wealth” comes from our labor and their ideas and investment in the businesses we work in. The consumer pays all taxes, including those of the wealthy.

Socialism is a false concept that you can actually pass the tax bill on to someone else. Many argue that it is more “fair” to ask the wealthy to pay more but since they pass it on, and they also pass the compliance cost on in the prices, how is that actually more “fair?” The nations that are rejecting socialism for capitalism are finding the truth out concerning taxes.

All we do when we use socialism for a tax policy is add collection cost to us, who pay the bills for the nation and its social programs.

Again, you ask "why." It is because "we the people" have decided we want socialism and we elect those who will give us what we want. We won't like it, but, we will keep asking for more, not less. Don't believe it?

Look no further than France. The worse it gets, the more the ask government to do more. The more government does, the worse it gets. The worse it gets, and again the people ask for more. The more that are unemployed, the more they have to get those that are employed to pay. But, they don't tax just them, they tax business and it leaves. A millionaire a day is leaving France and they are screaming "low tax nations" are hurting the French worker and the EU should force those other nations to raise their taxes to be fair to France.

quote:
Unlike some other nations in Europe, Irish lawmakers courageously
decided that radical surgery was needed, and tax rates were slashed.
Corporate tax rates have fallen from 50 percent to 20 percent and will
drop to 12.5 percent in 2003. Personal tax rates have been reduced
from 65 percent to 42 percent, and capital gains tax has fallen from
60 percent to 20 percent.

What is the result of this experiment in Reaganomics? Today, Ireland
enjoys unprecedented prosperity. The country's economy is booming,
expanding at about 9 percent annually. Unemployment has dropped
by nearly 10 percentage points. Growth has been so robust that
Ireland now has to import workers, an amazing development for a
nation that traditionally has seen many of its people emigrate in search
of jobs.

As one might expect, this astounding performance has attractedattention from Ireland's European neighbors. Surprisingly, though, this attention has been hostile. High-tax nations such as France are upset that Ireland has lowered tax rates. They argue that low tax rates are a form of "unfair" competition. In a truly Orwellian twist, European bureaucrats even assert that Ireland's low tax rates are a form of "state aid."
http://oregonmag.com/IrishEconomy.htm
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Until the voter wakes up, Washington is going to keep giving the voters what they want but will hate when they get it.

nafta highway
So, there seems to be some more bull---- for us to have to swallow. if we wanted to be mexamerican then what was all the fight about at the alamo, what did the very legendary americans die for in the spanish-American war, why are the majority (98%) of all languages spoken in the United States some form of english!!!!!!?
To all who want a mexamerica the road to mexico is south, get on it, don"t come back, forget your social security, all the things our great country have to offer, any legal rights you have, and your citizenship. and remember that the reason you had such a good life in America is predominatly due to labor unions, hard work, your parents, and most of all our God who answered our prayers and helped us build this great country.

nonsense. inane. BS
scanning through some comments.. i see some biblical stuff.. God does matter and it is good to have faith in Yaweh but my issue is this.. the scale goes thus..
God created man.. so God is responsible for the acts of man and has athority over man.
man created government and what red tape beneath it. so we as governments creators are responsible for its acts and have authority over it.. no one in government has authority over us.. none.. but it has managed through false identities and such to shift control above us and we have lost our grip on our public servants...
God will do what he does.. this is our battle.. i for one believe preterism to be true and that the bible due to corrupt minds translating the bible and such to mold our ideas into one of fear. all people seem to have in their hearts is fear.
fear of an end.
.. we are living in the church age now. we are strong.. the good are in majority.. and we will win.
a non-point..
laws do help maintain against criminals.. but if we were all really violent criminals no laws would keep people from goin off the hook. thus.. most people are generally good and just want peace. taking away our freedoms and rights.. like they are Gods?!?? nonsense. inane... BS.
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