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Friday, July 28, 2006
Pat Buchanan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Israel's Vietnam syndrome
by Pat Buchanan
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Behind the U.S. refusal to support a cease-fire in the Israeli-Hezbollah war lies a stark reality. Israel needs more time to attain its strategic goal: Cleanse Lebanon, south of the Litani, of Hezbollah fighters and Katyusha rockets. A cease-fire in place means Hezbollah wins the war.

Yet, one day after Israel lost nine soldiers and 22 wounded in an ambush outside a town it claimed to have taken, its cabinet appears to have given up on sending in the army. Israel is going to rely on air power and artillery to root out Hezbollah, which means that Israel will fail.

And if the IDF is not going in, the United States should support a cease-fire now. For U.S. interests are at rising risk.

The Shia of south Lebanon, driven out of villages and towns by 30,000 Israeli artillery shells and hundreds of precision-guided bombs, are pouring into south Beirut. These people could take vengeance on Americans for the green light that Bush gave Israel on the destruction of their homeland and the deaths visited upon their friends, neighbors and family members.

Given the devastation done by Israel's shock-and-awe campaign, the humanitarian disaster of some 800,000 refugees could produce a political disaster: the collapse of Lebanon into a failed state. The one shining success of Bush's democracy crusade in the Arab world had been Lebanon's Cedar Revolution.

Then there is the danger the Shia of Iraq will, in solidarity with their co-religionists in Lebanon, turn on the Americans for the blank check Bush gave the Israeli air force to work its will in Lebanon. Pro-American Arab regimes have all been thrown on the defensive among their people, as Al-Jazeera shows, 24 hours a day, the carnage visited on Lebanon by an Israel that is using U.S. weapons and bombs, not unlike those bunkers-busters we conspicuously turned over to them last week.

Why did Israel launch an air war against Lebanon rather than a ground war to engage and eliminate Hezbollah?

Perhaps because the Israeli chief of staff is an air force man. Perhaps to send a message that this is what happens to Arab nations that trifle with Israel. But certainly to avoid the casualties Israel knows must come from a ground war in Lebanon against a dug-in Hezbollah prepared to fight and die.

The 1982 invasion of Lebanon was Israel's Vietnam. The shelling of Beirut for weeks on end cost her the moral high ground, just as the televised devastation of Lebanon these last two weeks has done. The massacre of men, women and children in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Chatilla were an Israeli My Lai, with this difference: Approval for these Phalangist atrocities appears to have come from the highest levels of the IDF.

After 18 years of being bled in Lebanon, Israel gave up and went home. The Vietnam syndrome set in.

Still, how can Hezbollah and its leader Hassan Nasrallah claim to have won the war, when they have inflicted far less damage and taken many more casualties? Answer: By simply standing at war's end.

The guerrilla wins if he does not lose. There is truth in the cliche. And as of today, Nasrallah has refused to return the two Israeli soldiers Hezbollah captured. Hezbollah has fired 1,500 rockets into Israel, which no Arab army has ever done. It continues to fire 100 a day, after two weeks of massive air and artillery strikes on its positions in south Lebanon. Hezbollah is visibly accomplishing what no Arab nation has ever accomplished. Small wonder its prestige is rocketing in the Arab and Islamic world.

For Israel, the days of hope and glory are history.

In 1967, Israel defeated Egypt, Syria and Jordan in six days and seized huge slices of all three countries. In 1982, the Israelis were at the gates of Beirut within hours. Today, they are reluctant to go 15 miles in, and Olmert is talking of taking a one-mile stretch of Lebanese land and holding it. Israel is now calling for a robust international force, preferably NATO, to occupy Lebanese territory on her northern border, and, with the Lebanese army, ensure it remains clear of Hezbollah and Katyushas.

But the Lebanese army, itself heavily Shia, contains Hezbollah, and, after Israel bombed and killed a dozen of its men in their barracks, is not going to pull Israel's chestnuts out of the fire. No nation is going to do for Israel what she has failed to do for herself. No international force is going to disarm Hezbollah, unless Hezbollah agrees to be disarmed.

Israel apparently believes it can defeat and disarm Hezbollah with air strikes and artillery, though in 18 years of occupation it failed. It is deceiving itself. Either Israel goes in and roots Hezbollah out at a cost of hundreds of Israeli dead, or it will have to negotiate, as it did with Syria's Assad in 1973 and the PLO's Arafat in 1994. If you will not or cannot defeat your enemy, you eventually must talk to him.

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A COUPLE OF DIFFERENCES
First of all, the biggest Israeli mistake made in the drive on Beirut in 1982 was when they had Arafat cornered in that very city, THEY LET HIM GO!!!!!
As for the Philangist massacres that you mention, Ariel Sharon was the subject of a panel of inquiry and was absolved of all blame.
Now, Mr. Buchanan, it appears that you are carping that Israel will NOT go in and finish off Hezbollah. Isn't that what you wanted in the first place?
Could it be that what see you see as failed strategy could be concessions on the part of the IDF?
One last point, the failure of the IDF to contain Hezbollah comes not from the 18 years of their occupation of Lebanon, it comes from the passage of the UN resolution calling on the Lebanese government to disarm and have them stand down.It does not come from any Israeli failure of the previous 18 years.
As far as your comparisons to Vietnam: night and day;apples and oranges; Ty Cobb and Pete Rose.

Democracy and Islam a poor combination
I have voted for Pat in the past and would do so again. However, on the subject of Israel I think Pat goes a little too far. Unlike us, Israel may have finally learned the military value of a “slap on the hand” instead of the futility of nation building. I saw the value of this type of intervention when China had a border dispute with Viet Nam in the late 1970s. They went in 20 miles, blew a few things up and when home.

I wonder how we would feel if Al Qeda was fully accepted in Mexico, had seats in the Mexican congress, was a viable political party and had the sponsorship of Canada. Supposed we were taking missile attacks on US border cities. Would we exercise the same restraint Pat urges on Israel?

“Lebanon might become a failed state”? Does Pat think that having an anti Syrian political candidates assassinated at will indicates that Lebanon had ever achieved success as an independent state?

Democracy only allows the evil inherent in Islam to be less well hidden. The “success” of Western civilization was because of Christ. Liberal schoolteachers cannot accept this so they teach that democracy was the source of our success. As a result of this indoctrination children grow up to be like President Bush, and though well intentioned, bring democracy and death to thousands.

Democracy can work in countries where the evil in men’s hearts is restrained by the power of God. However, in countries where there is no internal restraint, the iron hand of a tyrant, warlord, or gangster is needed.

When the Arabs tried to fight Israel as nations, they were defeated. This is because they tried fighting by the rules of the Europeans. They are now returning to the rules of the jungle and fighting like animals (terrorists). Of course innocents are being harmed. This is the tragedy of all wars and incursions. It is more the fault of the dogs who use them as shields than those who are trying to protect themselves.

Buchanan
Your sounding more like a Liberal with every column! I'm surprised you didn't use the term "Stuck in a quagmire." In this column you focus on Lebanon and it's many civilian casualties, that they brought on themselves by allowing Hesbollah to take control, while playing down the success's of the IDF.

You go on to speak of Hesbollah as some kind un-defeatable, Islamic hero. Instead of the murdering terrorists they are.While attempting to make Israels self defense efforts sound futile!

You say. "No nation is going to do for Israel what she has failed to do for herself." Failed!? They're just getting started!

You add, "No international force is going to disarm Hezbollah, unless Hezbollah agrees to be disarmed." What planet are you living on these days!?

What is it with you lately Buchanan? Contract Alzheimer's perhaps?

Dementia Praecox
I'm not a doctor but the diagnosis is obvious: Pat's brain had been used to working at such a high level for so long has finally burned out. He has been unable, as Wm. F. Buckley, to come to terms with the winning of the Cold War and remains in a time warp. With every passing column, he becomes more and more irrelevant. Let us remember and honor the feisty conservative of days past and blow this bozo off.

On Target, Collateral Damage Zero
It is good to see a reporter/writer operate outside the fear of retalliation. America sees so little of the truth, it cannot recognize it. Our government will do and say only what is allowed by Israel. This, once greatest nation in the world, has long been under Israel's thumb and this is all that the past couple of generations has ever known. The sad cries of "Conspiracy Theories" and "Racist, Anti-Semetic Lies" has been very successful in controlling the "Politically Correct " way to see and judge things.
Israel knows that others will follow America's lead and therefore controls the "Pied Piper". With the controlled lack of investigative reporting, the truth is easily hidden. Question: Who gains/benefits and who pays the price?

Religion, it's roots and teachings, is the greatest controlling factor of a people. In this, we can see the underlying reasons behind a governments actions. When a government works in opposition to it's peoples beliefs, it is tainted. Israel knows that without backing and support, it can accomplish nothing. Human life, non-Jewish human life, is worth less than that of a dog. The method of destruction of this life is of no consideration and can easily be seen in present actions and past history.

This article bears true facts and deserves indepth study and consideration in order to fully understand the the wealth and reality that it contains. History repeats itself and thus reveals the inherent traits of the true leadership of any people (read Nation).

Do we read and learn or do we blindly accept and follow?

Keep them coming Pat!
Your viewpoint is appreciated because it's not the pro-Israel drivel that spews from every talking head's mouth.

Israel needs to do what it needs to do. America needs to simply leave the region and let the locals fight it out.

Israel provides little value to America other than bring it's enemies to America.

When Israel pays for it's military and becomes an independent country, without raping the American Tax Payer to the tune of over $100 Billion over the past 40 years or so, then I'll cheer them on. Otherwise, I'll go back to looking over my shoulder for some Islamic wacko who wants to kill me simply because I'm American and he hates me because of my country's Pavlovian support for gutter Israel.

Thanks Pat!

If you can't beat 'em, negotiate
I can't for the life of me see how so many of you see Pat as way off here. His point seems true: Israel has been in Lebanon before and attempted to defeat Hezbollah but failed. If they aren't going to do more than they did last time around, they can't win (which means basically obliterating Hezbollah as a militia). Thus, they might as well negotiate.

I doubt that there would be many of you disagreeing with Pat on this point is Israel had invaded with massive numbers of troops, since by this action Israel would be showing resolve to do what it takes to win. But Israel is not, at least not right now. So why prolong a strategy of armed conflict that won't result in victory?

Yes Pat, Israel has been in its Vietnam quagmire now for almost 60 years. They don't have the option to do what we did in Vietnam, retreat and allow the South Vietnamese to be defeated, imprisoned, re-educated or killed, and pave the way to Pol Pot slaughters. There can be no retreat for Israel. To survive they must win, something the West seems to have forgotten how to do when the going gets tough. But worry not Pat, for they are only Jews.

Buchanan's comic syndrome
Oh Pat. Your material is really improving. Please let us kow the next time you plan to perform in Atlantic City.

A Buchanan Miracle
" For israel, the days of hope and glory are history."

Oh, Pat when you write on Israel, you embarrass yourself. Some of your conclusions are almost funny. Please, this Sunday, visit a 5th grade Sunday school class. The chairs may be too small and you may want to snigger but you might learn about God's Covenant with Israel and ask about the story of Abraham and Isaac and Ishmael.
There is the story of Napoleon standing at a window, watching the people on the street below. He turns to one of his generals and says," How can we know there is a God?"
The general softly replies, " The Jews...the Jews."
The story probably didn't happen but it's a reminder that God has not and will not forget His promise.He has given us Gentiles ( Ask your Sunday school teacher what Gentiles are, Pat. ) hundreds of years to do it our way and to solve problems. "How are we doin'," God?
Not so good! We have actually found a way to blow up His creation! Greed and terror and hunger still fill the earth, and some Gentiles have tried and failed to eliminate the Jews during the Holocaust. What are the odds of this tiny group of ignorant shepherds and smelly fishermen having such an impact on history and how about their ability to survive? It's almost like a miracle! Miracle? Well, that's sorta like you ever having a chance to be President.
By the way, Pat, you will be a guest this Sunday so you won't be expected to bring a dime for the collection!




Pat sez, "Given the devastation done by Israel's shock-and-awe campaign, the humanitarian disaster of some 800,000 refugees could produce a political disaster: the collapse of Lebanon into a failed state."

Pat, how can you call a state now controlled by Islamic fundamentalist terrorists a success? Israel ceded territory to Lebanon to see what they would do with it, and Lebanon turned the territory into a terrorist enclave.

Lebanon is definitely a state sponsor of terrorism.

Pat's fantasy
"For Israel, the days of hope and glory are history."

I'm sure you needed a smoke and a nap after you wrote that line, Pat.

Q-zap, the Wormtongue of Buchananists
"They can't win (which means basically obliterating Hezbollah as a militia). Thus, they might as well negotiate."

How sly of you, referring to the Hez-bos as a "militia." Just like US militias, no doubt. As Jim McDermott said, "Terrorism is in the eye of the beholder," right?

There's only one, small problem with "negotiation."

Israel's base position is, "We have a right to exist."

Hez-bos' (and apparently Pat's, and certainly the 88 or so "anti-Zionists" who show up to shout Hosannah for columns like this) os, "No you don't."

Hard to "negotiate", there...

The IDF is a bit smarter then Pat
The great strategist Pat Buchanan seems to think the slow movement of the IDF indicates the invasion is a quagmire similar to Vietnam. I think it’s a case of Israel learning from the US's mistakes in Iraq.

The US overran the Iraq in days and the opposition melted away only to reemerge to engage in guerrilla warfare. Israel is going slow, drawing in as many Hezbollah fighters as possible, who like Pat see the slow progress as a weakness. Then the IDF kills them - all of them. The ones Israel kills today won’t fight next year.

Pat seems to think that the lives of 9 soldiers should be enough to deter the IDF from this strategy. A single Hezbollah rocket kills that many civilians over lunch hour. The Israeli government isn’t being run by the democrat party.

Thanks Buchananites!
Thanks Pat, your columns along with some of your followers posts clearly explain why you can only garner 3% [high?] of the vote. JARNKM; "This once greatest nation in the world, has long been under Israel's thumb and this is all the past couple of generations has ever known" [World Jewish Conspiracy?] Than two paragraphs later writes "Israel knows that without backing and support, it can accomplish nothing." Under his rock, the USA is under the thumbs of Israel and international Jewry and is controlled by the "neocons" [Jews] in the Bush Administration. So the Israelis are so smart they can hoodwink "this once great nation" but cannot support itself...yeah right! and RAIDENCRAIG hails this tripe as "good points"! If this "once great nation" is not great enough for you guys than GET THE HELL OUT! I hear your thinking is all the rage in France! We support Israel because they are a democratic island in a sea of radical islamist puke. Zapper, who the hell are you going to negotiate with? Hezbollah? Hamas? More importantly what are you going to say? Please enlighten us commoners. Everytime throughout history whenever Israel has tried to put a beat down on terrorist scum, the "world Community" steps in and screams "cease fire" And each time the terrorists come back more emboldened and better armed than the last time. Israel has nowhere to run, they must win to SURVIVE. Wonder how we would react if we were in the same position, diplomacy? negotiation? I think not! And no SAUL, im not a Jew, however I belive in freedom and democracy for all...not just western liberals and Buchananites.

Pat's no Conservative
A pro labor, isolationist bigoted anti=Semite is my definition of a liberal Democrat. Patrick Buchanon's only contribution to conservatism was to deprive the Lunatic Gore from the Presidency.Even that was not intentional

A Fools Insight
I find myself reading Buchanan's drivel simply to find out what Archie Bunker is saying today. As one of America's premier lunatics, Paddy seems to go off on the "these people could take vengance on American's" tangent at every opportunity. He never seems to get the picture. I'm tempted to give him a subscription to a real thinker, ala Charles Krauthammer, so that he might gain a better understanding of world affairs. As for what the world thinks of America, my best anser is what was voiced by that tempestuous Toby Ziegler from the uberliberal show, The West Wing, "They'll like us when we win!" Truer words were never said.

Thanks Raidencraig!
Israel is our misfortune and it's a liability to the American tax payer.

I'm sorry but the livelihood of 7 million Israelis are not worth sacrificing America in a war with 1 billion terrorists. America needs to simply disengage from the entire conflict and let the locals damage each other. This war will never end and the ME is just another rathole on the planet just like parts of Africa.

The great men who founded this country would never would have planned for regime change in another part of the world that is paid for by US tax payers in an effort to keep and "ally" safe.

With friends like Israel - who needs enemies?

Israel over the ages
Doing the right thing can be tough sometimes when its not convenient to do so.

The Bible speaks of the Jews as a curse to those who curse them and blessing to those that bless them. If there is any validity to that. Look at what has happened to empires that have wronged them: Oringinal Palestine (Philistia), Egypt, Persia, Rome, Spain, France, Germany, and England all who have run basically the world or came close to dominating the world have fallen.

England was the last one in the late 40's and early 50's for which, I beleive, for backing up the Arab countries in 1948 war.

America has been on Israel's side from the beginning. We have also been a blessed nation. To turn our back on them because it's causing a problem now, I believe, is equal to signing our death certificate. England was in the same position 50 years ago. Now they are a 2nd rate country. Better is the end of a thing than the beginning. If history is a barometer of anything we should stick it out.


Thank God (if there IS one) for Pat!
Americans need to seriously evaulate this so-called "special relationship" with the state of Israel. We have been backing the Israelis for over half a century, and the only thing we have to show for it are billions of tax-payer dollars wasted (and never repaid) and an entire region that hates our guts. When one studies the long-term effects of our policy towards the Jewish State, it becomes clear that the claim of a "mutually beneficial" relationship is dubious at best. Thus, I find it curious that many American officials and private citizens keep repeating the mantra that we must constantly stick up for Israel, no matter what she does, because "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East." While that is indisputably true, I have this quesiton for you: Since when did we ever support democracy when it was not in our best (real or perceived) interests? At various points in our proud and illustrious history, we have backed such brutal dictators as Franco, Pinochet, Rhee, Mubarak, Suharto, and Stalin (among MANY others). Most of these leaders fought at our side during our struggle to fight and contain Communism in the Cold War. Others were given our support as a way to gain access to vital resources. While this may be objectionable on moral grounds, such a policy served their prescribed fuctions. Given this, our knee-jerk support for Israel seems unusual indeed.
Another important question to ask is whether or not Israel is really a good and valuable ally. Aside from siphoning off our tax dollars and military hardware, Israel is directly responsible for the klling of at least one hundred American servicemen (the "U.S.S. Libery Incident" of the 1967 war), selling vital technology, and (possibly) passing top-secret classified documents to the Soviet Government in exchange for the release of Soviet Jews. Currently, at least two or three members of AIPAC have been investigated by the FBI and indicted for spying against their country for the Israeli government. While it is true that Israel served an important function as a strategic asset in the Middle East in our efforts to contain Soviet-backed Arab nationalists, with the end of the Cold War, it looks as though we may have been backing the wrong people.
I am not advocating that we cut all funding and ties with Israel, but that we re-assess the alliance. But that will be difficult because any criticism of Israel often invites accusations of anti-Semitism, and even anti-Americanism. Yet, this is too important to ignore. As for Bush's handling of this issue, the only good thing that I can say about him is that at least he has staunchly resisted pressure from our "allies" to release that traitor Jonathan Jay Pollard.
I just want to end by saying that in Israel's defense, she is only acting in her best interests. We should act in ours.

Thank God (if there IS one) for Pat!
Americans need to seriously evaulate this so-called "special relationship" with the state of Israel. We have been backing the Israelis for over half a century, and the only thing we have to show for it are billions of tax-payer dollars wasted (and never repaid) and an entire region that hates our guts. When one studies the long-term effects of our policy towards the Jewish State, it becomes clear that the claim of a "mutually beneficial" relationship is dubious at best. Thus, I find it curious that many American officials and private citizens keep repeating the mantra that we must constantly stick up for Israel, no matter what she does, because "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East." While that is indisputably true, I have this quesiton for you: Since when did we ever support democracy when it was not in our best (real or perceived) interests? At various points in our proud and illustrious history, we have backed such brutal dictators as Franco, Pinochet, Rhee, Mubarak, Suharto, and Stalin (among MANY others). Most of these leaders fought at our side during our struggle to fight and contain Communism in the Cold War. Others were given our support as a way to gain access to vital resources. While this may be objectionable on moral grounds, such a policy served their prescribed fuctions. Given this, our knee-jerk support for Israel seems unusual indeed.

Thank God (if there IS one) for Pat!
Americans need to seriously evaulate this so-called "special relationship" with the state of Israel. We have been backing the Israelis for over half a century, and the only thing we have to show for it are billions of tax-payer dollars wasted (and never repaid) and an entire region that hates our guts. When one studies the long-term effects of our policy towards the Jewish State, it becomes clear that the claim of a "mutually beneficial" relationship is dubious at best. Thus, I find it curious that many American officials and private citizens keep repeating the mantra that we must constantly stick up for Israel, no matter what she does, because "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East." While that is indisputably true, I have this quesiton for you: Since when did we ever support democracy when it was not in our best (real or perceived) interests? At various points in our proud and illustrious history, we have backed such brutal dictators as Franco, Rhee, Mubarak, , and Stalin (among MANY others). Most of these leaders fought at our side during our struggle to fight and contain Communism in the Cold War. Others were given our support as a way to gain access to vital resources. While this may be objectionable on moral grounds, such a policy served their prescribed fuctions. Given this, our knee-jerk support for Israel seems unusual indeed.
Another important question to ask is whether or not Israel is really a good and valuable ally. Aside from siphoning off our tax dollars and military hardware, Israel is directly responsible for the klling of at least one hundred American servicemen (the "U.S.S. Liberty Incident" of the 1967 war), selling vital technology, and (possibly) passing top-secret classified documents to the Soviet Government in exchange for the release of Soviet Jews.
I am not advocating that we cut all funding and ties with Israel, but that we re-assess the alliance. But that will be difficult because any criticism of Israel often invites accusations of anti-Semitism, and even anti-Americanism. Yet, this is too important to ignore. As for Bush's handling of this issue, the only good thing that I can say about him is that at least he has staunchly resisted pressure from our "allies" to release that traitor Jonathan Jay Pollard.
I just want to end by saying that in Israel's defense, she is only acting in her best interests. We should act in ours.

excuse those multiple entries
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Pat's a straight shooter
It may be unpleasant for a lot of you to hear, but Pat is giving it to you straight. He is not afraid to so so, and for that alone he deserves credit and admiration.

For those of you who continue to labor under the delusion that Israel has been covering itself with glory these past several weeks, getting a whiff of reality must be tough.

But Pat is a giving the true conservative analysis, eschewing propaganda and political posturing and instead supplying facts, common sense, and historical perspective.

I notice that most or all of Pat's dissenters cop a condescending, snide attitude in their posts, and resort to empty name-calling and hollow accusations.

Obviously Pat strikes a nerve with many people on this topic. If you want to debate a rather sagacious article, do it with some degree of finesse and astuteness on your own parts, with compelling arguments rather than with blanket accusations, offhand dismissals, and insults. If you are incapable of posting remarks exceeding a tenth-grade level, why bother?

israel is our misfortune
Dear closemarinson:

I will not get out of America because I'm an America Firster. I care about America before I care about any other place on the planet.

So I will stay here in my great country.

However, if your and others love for israel is so strong, why don't you move there and fight for it yourself? Are you a coward?

Also - how much of your private money have you sent to the israeli government? Probably not a dime.

I, however, have given my fair share all year and expecially on April 15th as a tax payer in the 39% tax bracket - I've personally added to israel's war chest and I'll I get in return is 1 billion muslimes who want to kill. That's a great return on my/our "investment".

I'd be more than happy to send you a M16A2 rifle and airfare to israel so you can put your own life on the line to defend your beloved israel.

Missed opportunity
Damn that Truman for recognizing Israel in 1948, which he did mainly to secure Jewish votes (which probably got him elected later that year). George C. Marshall warned him that it would alienate us from the vast Arab population, but, as "Give'em Hell Harry" put it,"I do not have hundreds of thousands of Arabs among my constituents."
As a leftwing Socialist state at its founding, there was much fear among Jews that Israel would end up going into the Soviet camp. While it might not have been good for them, it certianly would have been good for America, since it would have put most of the Arabs on our side.

Saul, Saul, tch, tch
Do you really think that if we simply disengaged from our involvement with Israel, Islamists would let us live in peace?

Saul, there are over 35 armed conflicts going on in the world right now, with over 25 of them involving Islamists as aggressors and those nations wherein they are involved have nothing to do with Israel. And that number is growing.

BTW, what is YOUR answer to Islamic aggression worldwide? Or Pat's, for that matter?

Saul, you need to study Islam's history, both recent and past, and not be so myopic in your perspective.

Cleombrotus - the answer is simple...
Cleombrotus, the world's problems don't have to be solved with US intervention.

The answer is simple for all the other islamic problems. Let the locals deal with it accordingly.

For example - India and Pakistan - let the Indians learn something from israel and fight back.

Kosovo - same thing. Locals need to handle their own issues.

The USA needs to focus on obl - hunt him down and kill him in a public fashion.

Don't be so naive in thinking that our neo-CONNED war in iraq is helping America. It's really helping israel. Moreover, it's creating more enemies for America.

Also - can you guaruntee that the hundreds of thousand of displaced lebanese who are not part of hezbollah do not have animosity for America when they know that American's military gifts to israel have wreaked destruction on their towns?

I didn't think so.
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