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Friday, June 05, 2009
Oliver North :: Townhall.com Columnist
Apologies and Ayatollahs
by Oliver North
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WASHINGTON -- According to the mighty Wurlitzer in the White House press office, this week's penitent presidential venture to the Middle East has been "historic" and a "new beginning" for our relationship with Islam. Unfortunately for Mr. Obama -- and his campaign promise to make a major speech in a Muslim capital -- Osama bin Laden didn't play along. That's the trouble with homicidal megalomaniacs; they very often don't abide by the rules of "acceptable behavior."

As the Grand Apology Tour swept into Saudi Arabia, the al-Qaida terror chieftain released yet another diatribe on audiotape, condemning "U.S. aggression" in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Though Mr. Obama's carefully scripted "grand gesture" before a thoroughly screened audience in Cairo was simultaneously translated into a half-dozen tongues and broadcast around the world, it wasn't enough to push the bin Laden commentary off Islamic Web sites. That's because bin Laden gets it and Mr. Obama doesn't.

Osama bin Laden doesn't make any apologies for who he is or for the violence he advocates. He is a vicious religious extremist and is proud of the sanguinary carnage he has wrought against thousands of innocent Muslims, infidels in general, and Americans and Jews in particular. He knows his audience is but a tiny fraction of the world's 1.4 billion Muslims, and he is well aware that if only 0.1 percent of them become "jihadists," he will have succeeded. Bin Laden doesn't want to be liked. He wants to be feared.

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Mr. Obama, on the other hand, is desperate for affirmation -- thus his repeated references to his "Muslim father" and "the Holy Quran" in an effort to "bond" with his Islamic audience. To demonstrate empathy with "our Arab allies" -- and show improvement from his predecessors -- he did not visit Israel and pointedly condemned Israeli settlements, which, he said, "undermine efforts to achieve peace." To further establish how "different" he is, Mr. Obama has become very deft at distorting the truth to serve his own ends.

He has been practicing the lines he used on this Muslim Outreach Expedition for months. In April, while in Turkey, Mr. Obama baldly stated, "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation." He stressed, however: "We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world -- including in my own country. The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans." "Shaped" and "enriched" are not words that spring instantly to mind when visiting ground zero in New York or the west wall of the Pentagon.

As the White House embarked on this "new chapter of engagement" between the U.S. and the Muslim world, it changed the presidential job description and stretched the facts. "I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States," Mr. Obama told his Cairo audience, "to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." He also told an interviewer, "If you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Sorry, Mr. President, but that's not even a stretch; it's just a baldfaced fabrication designed to ingratiate yourself with your "audience."

The 1,209 mosques in the United States claim slightly more than 2 million members. There are 48 Muslim-majority nations on earth. Even tiny Oman (population: 3.3 million) has more Muslims than the USA, as do more than two dozen Muslim-minority countries. We do have more than Iceland (Muslim population: fewer than 500).

Note to White House staff: These are called facts. He needs to stick to them. Osama bin Laden and the ayatollahs in Tehran (Iran's Muslim population: 63 million) know better, and they see his grasping for approval as what it is -- weakness. Mr. Obama's plaintive promise of "mutual respect" and his Utopian hope that a "peace agreement" between Israel and the Palestinians would keep the Iranians from using nuclear weapons and Islamists from wanting to kill Americans is beyond naive; it is dangerous.

Some of the Sunni Muslims Mr. Obama met with and spoke to in Riyadh and Cairo undoubtedly want to believe that this "enlightened" American president will protect them from extermination by a Shiite Muslim-Persian bomb. Others may even hope that he can help prevent their heads from being removed by bin Laden's minions. More likely, the pragmatic among them will get quietly to work assembling their own nuclear arsenals.

Endlessly apologizing to everyone for everything the United States has done "wrong" or "failed to do" denies the reality of our past and present enemies, and it denigrates the American people. Just prior to the president's departure for meetings with Saudi King Abdullah and the group hug with Muslim leaders in Cairo, an abortion doctor was murdered, and two U.S. soldiers were gunned down in front of an Arkansas recruiting office by a Muslim convert.

Before getting on Air Force One, Mr. Obama took time out to tell a French television reporter, "I think that the United States and the West generally, we have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam," and then he ordered the U.S. Marshals Service to start protecting abortion clinics. Too bad he didn't do the same for military recruiting stations.

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Keep soaking up the...
.
...Margaritas, Florida Ralph (1:33am).

Your "they" (evil, evil Republicans) are supposed to justify SOBama's conduct?

Is THAT supposed to be mature behavior? MAture thinking?

Maybe among Leftists.

Grow up, or stay plastered on the beach, kid.

Is he a pathological narcissist?
I think this critique of Barack Obama by Ali Sina is even more relevant now than it was in September when he wrote it. If you haven't read it yet, read it.

"Narcissim has degrees. When it is extreme it shows in the posture and the way the narcissist walks and talks. Obama's posture, exudes haughtiness. He is all puffery. Compare his posture to those of Hitler, Stalin and Saddam.

According to Vaknin, Obama displays the following behaviors, which are among the hallmarks of pathological narcissism:

- Subtly misrepresents facts and expediently and opportunistically shifts positions, views, opinions, and "ideals" (e.g., about campaign finance, re-districting). These flip-flops do not cause him overt distress and are ego-syntonic (he feels justified in acting this way). Alternatively, refuses to commit to a standpoint and, in the process, evidences a lack of empathy.

- Ignores data that conflict with his fantasy world, or with his inflated and grandiose self-image. This has to do with magical thinking. Obama already sees himself as president because he is firmly convinced that his dreams, thoughts, and wishes affect reality...

- Feels that he is above the law.

- Talks about himself in the 3rd person singluar or uses the regal "we" and craves to be the exclusive center of attention, even adulation

- Has a messianic-cosmic vision of himself and his life and his "mission"."

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

not enough
Hey ralfy damned fool has caused enough problems already in less than 6 months 8 years I dont think so and I dont want a fool like obambam talking for me

Obama Death Wish or Ignorance?

"I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others do not.

No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons.

That is why I strongly reaffirmed America’s commitment to seek a world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons.

And any nation – including Iran – should have the right to access peaceful nuclear power if it complies with its responsibilities under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

That commitment is at the core of the Treaty, and it must be kept for all who fully abide by it.

And I am hopeful that all countries in the region can share in this goal."

Barack Obama - Cairo Speech to Muslims
June 4, 2009

RALPH: C'mon, you can tell us...

doofass told you to post that, right? LMAO

You're gonna have a tough time with the "bombing of innocent Afghan civilians" thing since Obozo has sent a few hundred thousand troops to Afghanistan just in the few months since his coronation....





Ollie you failed
"...Osama bin Laden doesn't make any apologies for who he is or for the violence he advocates. He is a vicious religious extremist and is proud of the sanguinary carnage he has wrought against thousands of innocent Muslims, infidels in general, and Americans and Jews in particular..."

You are correct BUT now Osama, mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, is under great pressure. He almost certainly will be captured or killed and knows it. This is a new reality for him since the failed Bush let him go free and unmolested. What you completely miss is that we DO OWE THE WORLD an apology for betraying our own and civilized values. Did good come out of the Bush regime's failed strategy yes, some. But its frightened and timid approach to the terrorists only emboldened them and made them stronger.

Jack - get the facts
Please do some research before name calling, attacking and judging others.

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of three minor counts.

The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress

which had been given under a grant of immunity..."


Jack
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 7:38 AM EST
Again Ollie
Wow, this has got to be top ten in terms of hypocracy. Seriously Ollie, with your history in the Middle East how can you expect to have any credibility in commenting on these matters? Iran Contra ring a bell? Keep talking all you want, but you're less credible with every word you utters.

And once again, why aren't you in jail?"

I can answer that - the ACLU had his felony convictions thrown out on technicalities.

Jack needs the facts
Please do some research before name calling, attacking and judging others.

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of THREE MINOR COUNTS.

The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress

which had been given under a grant of immunity..."

April22
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 8:37 AM EST
Jack - get the facts
Please do some research before name calling, attacking and judging others.

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of three minor counts..."

They were felonies and confirmed that Ollie violated his oath as an officer also thereby embarrassing the USMC

"...The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress which had been given under a grant of immunity..."

This is the technicality that overturned the conviction there was never any question but that Ollie was guilty as charged. This makes North just another convicted felon who got off on a technicality

The POTUS has
a bushel of carrots and no stick. Not the most effective foreign policy strategy.

Your right Ollie! But I don’t know who’ll finish America first, Obama or Osama.

Hal and Jack have no credibilty
THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

NO WONDER YOU SUPPORT THE GREAT AMERICAN APOLOGY TOUR.

WHO NEEDS DEMOCRACY AND OR A TRIAL WHEN WE HAVE HAL AND JACK TO TRY CONVICT AND PUNISH
A MAN FOR USING HIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO SAY OUR RECRUITERS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PROTECTIONS THE ABORTIONIST DO.

FYI

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of THREE MINOR COUNTS.

The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress

which had been given under a grant of immunity..."

Fight negative stereotypes of islam

Thank you Mr Obumbles for changing my stereotypic view of islamic fundamentalists as being filthy, smelly, bathe monthly, towel headed, pajama wearing, goat fornicating, women beating, living in the stone age fanatics.

How silly of me to think they bathe.

April
Haven't seen you around, but Hal Doofass is a troll whose BDS is rampant, even though they Won. And Jack is clearly a brown-noser, soon to be a brown shirt and he has no clue.

April22
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 8:52 AM EST
Hal and Jack have no credibilty
THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

NO WONDER YOU SUPPORT THE GREAT AMERICAN APOLOGY TOUR..."

Sorry, I do have credibility. I was on the Staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and knew Ollie at the time. I was there. I know what happened.

"...WHO NEEDS DEMOCRACY AND OR A TRIAL WHEN WE HAVE HAL AND JACK TO TRY CONVICT AND PUNISH
A MAN FOR USING HIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO SAY OUR RECRUITERS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PROTECTIONS THE ABORTIONIST DO."

How am I punishing Ollie I said he failed in the Middle East time for another approach. We did and it is.

FYI

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of THREE MINOR COUNTS..."

They were felonies and the ACLU helped him get them thrown out

Hey JackAss
Would you like to talk some hypocrisy?

Who said this would be the most transparent Presidency ever?

Who said he would get rid of earmarks and then signed a bill with 9000 of those little pieces of bacon in it?

Who said I won't hire any lobbyists and in his first few weeks in office hired more than 10 of them?

Who said we can't teach our children that it's okay to spend more than you have and then ballooned the debt and the amount of money we borrowed from China???

Who contradicted himself when he said no country should have Nukes, but then said it was okay for Iran?

Just curious. And stay on topic when you answer those, hey Jackass. I'll even help you. The answers are all the same!!

Obama Attracts People like this

Those who 'Hate America'.

Those who are against 'Individual Rights'.

Those who are 'Marxists'.

Those who are 'Cowards'.

Those who are 'Racists'.

Those who are against 'Equal Rights'.

Those who would rather 'Steal' than work.

Those who 'Fail' at what they do.

Those who want to 'Weaken' America in time of war.

Those who have 'Empathy' for the criminals and 'NO Sympathy' for the victims.

Those who have 'Great Disdain' for human life.

Those who want 'Economic Disaster' in America.

Why does Barack Obama 'Attract' these types and every 'Marxist' and 'Radical' in America and around the world?

"Do birds of a feather, flock together"?

And here's doofass-the-dimwit ...

entertaining us yet again....

doofass may actually have been there, but he would have been in the janitors closet... HA HA


Hal
RE:"Sorry, I do have credibility. I was on the Staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and knew Ollie at the time. I was there. I know what happened."

PLEASE POST US LINK TO YOUR TESTIMONY AT THE TIME

AND WE DO STILL HAVE TRIAL BY JURY WHO

APPARENTLY DISAGREED WITH YOU IF YOU ACTUALLY

GAVE ANY

SO SHOW US THE LINK OR SHUT UP

Krauthammer says of Obama's [Cairo]

address: ‘Abstract, Vapid, & Self-Absorbed’

But, Obozo is such an arrogant narcissist that he probably went back to the hotel, looked in the mirror and exclaimed... "They liked me, they really, really liked me!"







Retired Geek
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 9:11 AM EST
Obama Attracts People like this

Those who 'Hate America'."

Yup all us liberals demonstrated that in NYC on 9/11 and after didn't we?

"Those who are against 'Individual Rights'."

Not at all, we support individual rights but we will NOT allow you to rape us or anyone else. That is what you miss - your individual rights decrease when they infringe on MY, or anyone else's, individual rights

"Those who are 'Marxists'."

If there are any left they are not in number. Perhaps you should look up a definition for Marxism instead of making one up

"...Those who are 'Cowards'."

Yup all us liberals demonstrated that in NYC on 9/11 and after didn't we?

"Those who are 'Racists'."

LMAO LOL this is so silly if it was not that you actually appear to believe it.

"Those who are against 'Equal Rights'."

does this make you against "equal justice" then?


RGII
"Those who would rather 'Steal' than work."

Actually that seems to be conservative's area of expertise i.e. ENRON

"Those who 'Fail' at what they do."

Wrong by definition we elected Obama and took control of the House and Senate. You on the other had did fail

"Those who want to 'Weaken' America in time of war."

again it was you folks who aided terrorists by adopting their tactics and elevating them to "warriors" from criminals

"Those who have 'Empathy' for the criminals and 'NO Sympathy' for the victims."

LMAO look at whose column this is a convicted felon who got off on a technicality

"Those who have 'Great Disdain' for human life."

There is no greater disdain for life than needless war, abandoning the sick, weak, young and old as your policies do

"Those who want 'Economic Disaster' in America."

I don't know if you wanted it but you most certainly caused it. Think how much worse the nation would be if Obama was not here - the bush depression would have become the great depression II

April22
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 9:18 AM EST
Hal
RE:"Sorry, I do have credibility. I was on the Staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and knew Ollie at the time. I was there. I know what happened."

PLEASE POST US LINK TO YOUR TESTIMONY AT THE TIME..."

I did not have to testify but the facts are public record check them out. Also ask Ollie; I doubt he will deny anything I stated

"...AND WE DO STILL HAVE TRIAL BY JURY WHO

APPARENTLY DISAGREED WITH YOU IF YOU ACTUALLY

GAVE ANY.."

The jury convicted Ollie It was the appeal court that let him off on technicalities

"SO SHOW US THE LINK OR SHUT UP"

Do your own research.

doofass-the-clown's idea of 'Equal

Rights' means what he determines what are 'Equal Rights'

And "ENRON" Oh pa-leaese... Clinton was practically in bed with ENRON! HA HA HA


Hal has no credibility
I am not the one claiming "I was there" (LMAO).

I am not the one who thinks my opinion trumps the judge and jury and democratic rule of law.

I have posted the facts... they are easily accessible on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra

If you were there and you have credibility you say you do prove your claims and post a link or shut up.

FYI
"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of THREE MINOR COUNTS.

The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress

which had been given under a grant of immunity..."
_______________
Some of us have to work and can't indulge your fantasies all day long.


Joel the loon
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 9:36 AM EST
What I Know about Islam
Until late last year, I was an Army Special Forces Officer. I have been in Islamic countries disguised as one of them. They did not know I was American. They thought I was a friend."

I do not believe a word you say without your full name you loon. You are a proven bigot and threat to the constitution. But mostly you are a loon

Your feelings about Islam contradict the vast majority of US troops especially the elite troops.

April22
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 9:41 AM EST
Hal has no credibility
I am not the one claiming "I was there" (LMAO)."

This is my real name check out what I say

"...I am not the one who thinks my opinion trumps the judge and jury and democratic rule of law."

nor am I. I just stated the facts

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of THREE MINOR COUNTS."

were they felonies?

Instead of wiki I suggest you go to the actual news of the day

"...Some of us have to work and can't indulge your fantasies all day long."

run, girl run

Rift With Germany ??
"Rift With Germany Is Next on Diplomatic Agenda"

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090605/ZNYT02/90605300 9/1109/sports?Title=Rift-With-Germany-Is-Next-on-Diplomatic -Agenda

DRESDEN, Germany — After mending fences with the Muslim world in Cairo on Thursday, President Obama might want to keep his diplomatic tools handy for his stopover here, to repair his increasingly strained relationship with Chancellor Angela Merkel.

A rift has quietly opened up between Germany and the United States, marked by official statements of harmony and private grumbling. It is not an outright crisis in relations, but there are underlying tensions and disagreements on matters ranging from the global economic crisis to the future of inmates held at Guantánamo Bay.

On a more basic level, there is a sense that the Obama administration is ignoring the needs and counsel of longtime allies. Divided Germany was once at the center not only of the cold war, but of American foreign policy as well, which is no longer the case. Yet the United States can ill afford to alienate Europe’s largest economy and its most important intermediary in the strained relationship with Russia. “They’re not angry, they’re not anti-Obama or anti-American,” said John C. Kornblum, a former United States ambassador to Germany and now a business adviser in Berlin. “But they’re confused by the wave of criticism which has been sent at them by the administration and people close to the administration.

Cont...

Does Obama Want War in Middle East?

First Obama gives $90 million to HAMAS, then Obama sends 'Military Arms' to Hezbollah.

Only a 'Dunce' would believe Barack Obama wants 'Peace' in the Middle East.
---------------------------------

Egyptian security forces uncovered an immense munitions cache near the Israeli border, the London published newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi reported on Friday.

An Egyptian official assessed that the 266 rockets, 51 mortar shells, 21 grenades and 43 mines uncovered in northern Sinai were meant to be smuggled to Hamas forces in the Gaza Strip.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242212383655&pa gename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Meanwhile, the Barack Obama sends $90 million to HAMAS.

DEBKAfile quotes senior Israeli military circles as staggered by the discovery that US president Barack Obama had approved a large Turkish arms sale to the Lebanese army, including the services of Turkish military instructors.

This was taken as further proof that the US president is deaf to Israel's immediate security concerns. Lebanese president Gen. Michel Suleiman has more than once threatened neighboring Israel. When he signed the arms deal in Ankara Tuesday, April 21, he once again pledged publicly to place the Lebanese army at the disposal of the Shiite terrorist Hezbollah in any confrontation with Israel.

http://www2.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6039

Hal has No, Zero, Nada,
You refuse to support &/or prove your own claims.

You claim you were there.
You claim you know better than Judge and Jury and the democratic rule of law.

If you were there where is YOUR testimony?


If you really had any credibilty at all you would not be launching your petty,fanciful attacks on Col North on this board.

You would be citing your testimony and giving us links to it.

AND FYI the "news of day" says:

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of THREE MINOR COUNTS.

The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress

which had been given under a grant of immunity..."
_______________
Some of us have to go to work and can't indulge your fantasies all day long.




Obama says Iran can be trusted

Obama says Iran can be trusted with Nuclear capabilities.
----------------------

"And you, for your part, if you would like to have good relations with the Iranian nation in the future, recognize the Iranian nation's right.

Recognize the Iranian nation's greatness. And bow down before the greatness of the Iranian nation and surrender.

If you don't accept [to do this], the Iranian nation will later force you to surrender and bow down."
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, 8/15/2006

"We Will Soon Experience A World Without The United States And Zionism.

Undoubtedly, I say that this slogan and goal is achievable, and with the support and power of God, we will soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism and will breathe in the brilliant time of Islamic sovereignty over today's world."

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, 9/27/2002

“At the “World Without Zionism” conference held in Tehran in October 2005, as the crowd chanted “death to Israel, death to America, death to England,” the Iranian President Ahminajead said...with the help of the Almighty, we shall soon experience a world without America and Zionism, notwithstanding those who doubt.”

The Barack Obama doctrine is to trust Iran.




For April22
REMF Dumbahue's version of "being there"--he watched the proceedings through his moron-box while in a drunken (he's never been in an unimpaired state since he was discharged--and highly likely long preceding that) stupour.

As far as his "being in Islamic countries", probably only in those which allow alcohol to non-Muslims--so that his Muslim host could get some under Dumbahue's allowance (of course, when they found out they needed another non-Muslim's allowance to get any of their own off it, they didn't want him back).

April22: doofass-the-dimwit goes off

on a "North = Bad" and "doofass-knows-all" rant every week.

It's like clockwork...

We just laugh and laugh and laugh...


doofass is a truly pathetic soul... presuming that he actually has a soul!



Obobo's folly
He stressed, however: "We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world -- including in my own country

I wish he would stop trying to speak for me. I have absolutely no appreciation for the religion of hate that wants me converted or dead.

This man is either niave or brain dead take your pick!

Retired Geek
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 10:03 AM EST...This was taken as further proof that the US president is deaf to Israel's immediate security concerns..."

We helped arm the IRA against Britain which is the better ally? Nearly half of all our aid to foreign nations of all types go to support Israel. Why? What Israel has been doing has not worked and is destabilizing both Israel and the entire ME. It is time for real solutions.

April22
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 10:08 AM EST
Hal has No, Zero, Nada,
You refuse to support &/or prove your own claims..."

Now you are panicking and lying. I have to prove nothing the facts are available for all to see. I never did say I knew better than judge and jury I just reported the facts

"If you were there where is YOUR testimony?.."

Not everyone has to testify. Heck ask Ollie he will tell you the truth.

"...AND FYI the "news of day" says:

"North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of THREE MINOR COUNTS."

were they felonies?

"...The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress which had been given under a grant of immunity..."

That is a technicality the facts in the case stood

"Some of us have to go to work and can't indulge your fantasies all day long."

Is it some government type or supported job?

Hal where are YOUR facts ?
RE: "facts are available for all to see."

Link please?

No wonder the others on this board have you on ignore. You got nothing.

Who is HAMAS?

The Group that Barack Obama sent $90 million in taxpayer money.

HAMAS is an acronym for Harakat al-Muqawammah al-Islammiyya.

It means Islamic Resistance Movement.

The terrorist group is an outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood - the same organization that has spawned most fundamentalist Islamic hate groups. The Muslim Brotherhood is a Sunni, Salafist, Islamist, religious movement that originated in Egypt. It seeks the forced imposition of fundamentalist Muslim social, moral, legal, religious, and political mandates on the world.

U.S. President Barack Obama met with members of Egypt's Islamist opposition movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, earlier this year, according to a report in Thursday editions of the Egyptian daily newspaper Almasry Alyoum.

The newspaper reported that Obama met the group's members, who reside in the U.S. and Europe, in Washington two months ago.


April22
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 10:38 EST
Hal where are YOUR facts ?
RE: "facts are available for all to see."

Link please?

No wonder the others on this board have you on ignore. You got nothing."

Nope I refuse to do your research or answer your questions because the responses are never adequate but I generally only mention easily researched comments etc. It becomes a debate about sources rather than the issue at hand

April22: Really, doofass-the-dimwit has

NO facts or limks... he just makes things up as he goes along...

Okay, sometimes he does refer to Puff-Ho, but we all know what a rats nest that is...

But typical-hypocritical doofass, he'll sure demand a link from YOU!





SICKENING
It has grown tedious to listen to our president disparage our own country. Without the US, and especially our money, who would help other countries? China? Russia? Please!

Obama and his supporters for some strange reason, loathe their own country and it's citizens. Perhaps its an extension of self-loathing and is definitely a symptom of liberalism. He validated radical Islam.

Careful Anne (@ 11:12)
Calling Puff-ho a rat's nest actually insults rodents!

Obama
hasn't a clue about Islam, jihad or anything in the Middle East other than our reputation. Yes they hate us! This means we've done our job by being the great country we are! This empty-headed fool in the WH thinks you can reason with a mindset bent on hatred and destruction. He's so clueless it is very very tedious listening to this guy. Since when did the Oath of Office declare that the POTUS uphold the Constitution, protect the American people, and oh by the way, apologize and play nice with everyone who hates us and wants us off the map! This man's a traitor!

Joel-De Oppresso Liber
"we should have used ICBMs to nuke Mecca, Medina, and every Islamic population center until the rubble bounced. "

What the fu-ck, man?!?!?!?!?!

So, you want to unleash a nuclear holocaust on over a billion people? Is that it? Not to mention the environmental implications of detonating that many nukes on Earth. Since you claim to have been in the Army, I can hazard a guess that you know a little bit about what nukes actually do to the environment and people anywhere near them. You are no better than the extremists you oppose. In fact, you are in the same class. The only thing that is apparently stopping you is that you don't have a couple of deliverable nuclear warheads laying around.

I put you in the same class as Islamic extremists. It is people like you and them that we need to be against. People who argue for the proliferation of war at the behest of a supreme being, but really only for themselves. The Islamic jihadists have their god, and you have the voices in your head.

And if you say you'd rather risk nuclear devastation, again, you are no better.

Another thing...come up with some new material...this copy and pasting from things you have posted before is for the birds. Do you have some notepad or copy of Word open on your desktop just copy and pasting call day?

Evelyn
You obviously have never been over there. Muslims don't hate us. I would agree with you on one score though, most of the world really does not like Bush and the right wing of our country. I can vouch for that since I have been hearing this from people all over the world since the day Reagan got elected. Obama understands the world and our role in it. You unfortunately think you know it but are sadly mistaken and uninformed. Try watching something besides Right Wing Media for a change, it does a body good.

Jason
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 11:44 AM EST
Joel-De Oppresso Liber
"we should have used ICBMs to nuke Mecca, Medina, and every Islamic population center until the rubble bounced. "

What the ####, man?!?!?!?!?!

So, you want to unleash a nuclear holocaust on over a billion people? Is that it? Not to mention the environmental implications of detonating that many nukes on Earth. Since you claim to have been in the Army, I can hazard a guess that you know a little bit about what nukes actually do to the environment and people anywhere near them..."

joel the loon is a massive bigot and religious extremist only the religion is LDS rather than Islam. I doubt he ever was a commissioned officer.

"...You are no better than the extremists you oppose. In fact, you are in the same class. The only thing that is apparently stopping you is that you don't have a couple of deliverable nuclear warheads laying around."

But he is probaly one of the really frightened little guys like gunnyg and others on here that always carry incase someone says boo.

"...I put you in the same class as Islamic extremists. It is people like you and them that we need to be against. People who argue for the proliferation of war at the behest of a supreme being, but really only for themselves. The Islamic jihadists have their god, and you have the voices in your head."

LOL that is why we should NOT call them Islamic extremists we should call them exactly what they are religious extremists. There is zero difference between the Arkansas shooter and the Kansas shooter

"Another thing...come up with some new material...this copy and pasting from things you have posted before is for the birds. Do you have some notepad or copy of Word open on your desktop just copy and pasting call day?"

yes sitting in his yellowed y fronts in a trailer out in the desert

Hal--How Much does
"H.R.Puffinstuff" [Look Up The Euphemism for "Huff-Po"---Clue,--kid's TV show] pay you for your "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Troll-ing,on TH?? Ollie North was/is an American Hero, whom everyone is familiar with!! I'm startin' to Suspect, that you were a Glorified "Clerk Typist", for the Joint Chiefs, Since you're not exactly a House-hold NAME, Like Ollie. [I have never met a Warrior that was a Lib Dem,-- fighting for your country, is not conducive to Sympathizing with her enemies!] He Patriotic Aly Fell on the Grenade, for his President,and paid quite a price for his Loyalty. So far as I ever heard, no Military Types, [ret. or otherwise] have ever denigrated him,-- a Brother in Arms,-- as a Common Felon, like you have. Just Sayin' "My Country, right or wrong--" I looked you up on Huff-Po, like you suggested. Anyone can be Anything they say they are,--- on the WEB.

Roy
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 12:25 PM EST
Hal--How Much does...pay you for your "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Troll-ing,on TH?? ..."

I am paid nothing I do this as a public service - bringing light to the darkness and hate

"...Ollie North was/is an American Hero, whom everyone is familiar with!! I'm startin' to Suspect, that you were a Glorified "Clerk Typist", for the Joint Chiefs, Since you're not exactly a House-hold NAME, Like Ollie. .."

Ollie was a hero in Vietnam and a disappointment in the states. Fact is he violated his oath of office and embarrassed the USMC. Thank goodness I am not a household name like Ollie. I would never get there like he did. I was a staff officer on the staff

"...[I have never met a Warrior that was a Lib Dem,-- fighting for your country, is not conducive to Sympathizing with her enemies!] ..."

Really? Perhaps you should do a bit of study.

"...He Patriotic Aly Fell on the Grenade, for his President,and paid quite a price for his Loyalty..."

He lied to Congress and violated his oath. He did not have to lie he could have refused to answer, told the truth or said nothing. He lied to protect his butt not Reagan

"... So far as I ever heard, no Military Types, [ret. or otherwise] have ever denigrated him,-- a Brother in Arms,-- as a Common Felon, like you have. Just Sayin' "My Country, right or wrong--" I looked you up on Huff-Po, like you suggested. Anyone can be Anything they say they are,--- on the WEB."

No one would even have a drink with him at Ft. Myers O Club at the time. I called him what he was a convicted felon the ACLU got off on technicalities that is the truth. Is service in Vietnam was superb it was the opposite in the states. I use my real name google away. I do not lie

Frank
Spoken like a true member of the Socialist Republic of California.

Jason
Joel's facts and projections are scary and I hope he's being overly pessimistic, however, he is closer to the truth than Hal who has been shown repeatedly to be a liar and a fraud. It is certain that Jason is very knowledgeable about Islam, especially radical Islam.

John Murtha -> Donahues Idol

Hal Donahue's 'Idol' and the one he thinks represents 'THE American Military Man' best John Murtha, is in trouble again.

"...Records point to the political peril of Murtha and other members of Congress directing federal funds to particular contractors, an oft-criticized process known as earmarking that has added hundreds of billions of dollars to the defense budget in recent years.

The companies owned by William Kuchera and his brother -- Kuchera Defense Systems and Kuchera Industries Inc. -- have received $53 million in federal contracts in this decade alone.

According to the court records, Kuchera was convicted of marijuana distribution in 1982 in Wisconsin.

In addition, a man who describes himself as an early partner in Kuchera's business in the 1980s is a convicted cocaine dealer who has served two terms in prison, according to the records."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/05/drug-dealers-lin ked-murtha-backed-firm/

Dusty
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 1:06 PM EST
Jason
Joel's facts and projections are scary and I hope he's being overly pessimistic, however, he is closer to the truth than Hal who has been shown repeatedly to be a liar and a fraud. ..."

Really name a couple then? I do not lie.

"...It is certain that Jason is very knowledgeable about Islam, especially radical Islam."

Probably much more so than joel the loon

Why is this criminal
allowed to write columns for Town Hall?

Seriously, conservatives, have a little integrity.

Jason
Joel

Frank
The rest of the world dislikes the US and has for a long time. Success garners resentment. However, Obama's policies will quickly level the field and we will be a poorer nation - much like the rest of the world. California is leading the way with their crushing debt and financial disarray - from liberal policies. Your gov is a liberal with an R behind his name. Liberal policies are bankrupting your state and will bankrupt this nation if not changed.

The Traitor Speaks...
Col. North is a traitor to America - he attacks Obama for the president's words, meanwhile North was a convicted liar who sold weapons to Iranians - advanced weapon systems as a "carrot" for help with hostages in Lebanon - how many Americans did North kill with his weapons sales (North took selling arms to Iran over when Israel could no longer broker good deals). That neocons consider this man a hero instead of a traitor is indicative of their allegiance to Israel and their disdain of America. And let's not forget, it was North's boss, Ronald Reagan, who helped a young bin Laden learn his trade fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. if Reagan had kept out of the region, bin laden might've never become the terrorist leader he is today.

These men are criminals...

Dusty,
You're right, while I wouldn't call myself an expert, I would say I'm pretty knowledgeable about Islam because.

1) I've actually picked up the Quran and read it.
2) I personally know several Muslims (some I've been friends with for several years and know quite well) and have discussed their religion and what it means to them.

The reason I equated Joel with islamic extremist is that he proposes the same methods as these extremists do...wipe 'em all out.

They used planes...Joel wants to use the most devastating weapon to have ever been developed by the human race.


O - WTBC?
Obama - Where's The Birth Certificate?

gettingoldernwiser
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 1:26 PM EST
Frank
The rest of the world dislikes the US and has for a long time. Success garners resentment..."

Really that is directly opposite my extensive experience. Why do you say this? I have found especially the man on the street loved us

"...California is leading the way with their crushing debt and financial disarray - from liberal policies...."

No, no not true it is classic conservatism almost impossible to raise taxes but easy to raise services. This is classic Reaganomics. The nation almost went this way until Obama came in and my well rescue the nation from that fate.

"...Your gov is a liberal with an R behind his name. Liberal policies are bankrupting your state and will bankrupt this nation if not changed."

No it is conservatism's refusal to pay for what they use and receive - classic hooray for me to heck for you

MISTAKE OF '08
The more I know about Obama, the more I distrust and dislike him.

s.r
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 1:47 PM EST
MISTAKE OF '08
The more I know about Obama, the more I distrust and dislike him."

and the rest of the country feels the opposite. What do you think that is?

s.r: Actually, MORE and MORE people...

including many on the left, agree with you. :-)




Mind-Reader Hal
Ya Know,it must be wonderful to be able to know what Ollie was thinking, back then--I guess CYA is a concept you're throughly Familiar with!! It's awefully hard to Believe anything you say, No one would Drink with him at the Ft. Myers O. Club?? I'm sure you would have, you weren't afraid that the Stigma would Rub Off on ya, were you? I hear ya like Free Drinks!!Let's See-- Lying to Congress--What a Concept!!!-- What the HELL do you think Mother Murtha, Baaany "Fruit" Frank, Princess Pelosi, Leaky Lehy an' Reid DO, ALL Day LONG. If Congress didn't lie to us, all the time, This Nation would be the Utopia that it was Supposed to be!! Let Me Know, when they call ya to be on tv, and ask for your Opinion. You can't even get a By-Line on TH. I guess bein' a Disgrace in the States, pays pretty well, The WaterGate Guys- [G. Liddy has his own Radio Show,] are doin' well. Maybe you'll get a "Call Up" to lead a BHO National Defense "Brown Shirt" Brigade, when it Hits th' FAN-- as it Surely Will-- to Terrorize/Control/Rat-out/ your Friends an' Neighbors. Until then, you can keep a record of all the Conservative Patriots you Bait-up, on the Blogs, to turn over to the Islamic Gestapo, when your HERO B. Hussein Obama, the "Kenyan Kommie", decides to--- "Round Up The Usual Suspects"---[quote from "Casa Blanca".

Hal in PA
Wasn't Bill Clinton the one who released Osama Bin Laden, not George W. Bush?

I seem to remember the Sudan offered him and Clinton turned them down.

Osama Bin North
If Ollie isn't a terrorist then nobody is. He should go on an apology tour of his own to explain why he illegally armed death squads in South America and Muslim terrorists in Iran. Roy and April, stop pretending to be conservatives and go hang out with the terrorist supporters at the daily kos. You are embarrassments to true conservatives.

Traitors and Rebels run this nation.
Where is the outrage at Obama's consistant tactic of redefining, on his terms, what his responsibilities are as the acting President of the U.S. (and I do mean "acting" as he does and he still has yet to prove his eligibility). The powers of the President are CLEARLY defined in the Constitution---- nothing less and nothing more. Of course he shirks those he is sworn to uphold and creates more at his every whim. He TRULY believes that he is sent to be the healer of the earth and, that in and of itself, isn't so terribly bad. It shows that he has vision. However, his "mission", no matter how well intentioned, cannot include shredding our Constitution. HE is to be the chief defender of it! If he truly believes in his charismatic power of persuation to better the world he ought to resign the office and go the way of MLK and other great men who have truly had an impact on mankind. In the meantime, as acting President, he may ONLY do that which the Constitution has vested in him. Anything else is TREASON. He, along with the other bunch in the House and Senate, are the true rebels in this nation, soon to be joined by the SCOTUS. It is the PEOPLE of this country who are the law abiders, Janet Napolitano be damned. It is the PEOPLE who must demand that we remain a nation of laws and not of men. I see no alternative to revolution and, contrary to Jefferson's words, it need not be bloody. The states must "just say no". And the PEOPLE must "just say no" in the juries and at the polls. The juries are the only hope for this nation and they can act NOW; they MUST nullify unconstitutional laws by refusing to indict or by consistent verdicts of "not guilty". We can beat them at their game if we just think and act NOW!

Apologies and Ayatollahs
Mr Oliver North
you are as always 100% right on as always.

by the way who are we really fighting Islamic tersest or are we now fighting Islam in the(WHITE HOUSE)

Speaking of research, Hal
It is pretty well-documented that it was BJ Bubba Bill who had several opportunities to put hands on Osama Bin Laden and failed to do so. Stop trying to blame Bush for Mt. St. Helens.

tim from IA
Do you think Ollie was right when he sold weapons to muslim terrorists in Iran? I thought this site was for conservatives who love freedom and oppose terror.

Iraqi's speak....
Mustafa Ayad, 34 yrs, father of two, accountant:

"I think Bush has dragged the reputation of America into the mud by his aggressive actions, and that Obama is trying to recapture that former presence it had in the minds and hearts of people all around the world. But he asks us to forgive and forget – that is too much. Forgive and forget a million Iraqis killed over the period of occupation? Forgive and forget the indignities and the humiliation of having to scuttle over to the pavement for the "Lords" to pass us on our streets? Forget – and forgive Abu Ghraib? And the list is long. I cannot forgive and forget my relatives who were killed, displaced or detained and humiliated for mere suspicion. We lost our homes, our livelihoods and our families most of whom fled. But in spite of that I am willing to listen. I am willing to give Obama the benefit of doubt. It remains to be seen what he can do to put my country back together."

We are a compassionate nation though. Just look at the author of this article, he is still free even though he is a proven liar.

Frank
Good point. In this country, North's kind of flagrant lying isn't a crime when congress grants immunity.
We must be extraordinarily compassionate to not only allow him to be free, but also to let him masquerade as a conservative on this site. I could be wrong though... it might be ignorance, not compassion. There are an awful lot of morons that self-identify as conservatives.

iraqi's speak
Try 100,000 not 1,000,000. Instead of "Lords" think people who would rather not be blown up by homicidal fanatics who hide among a population at least some of whom aid and abet them. Abu Ghraib was a joke compared to what you (if you're even Iraqi) endured under Saddam, and you know it- unless you were on his good side. As for being detained and humiliated- well, it was only after you got tired of the tender mercies of Al-Quaida that you really started giving a good amount of credible intel that allowed us to detain the right people, rather than being used to solve your petty blood fueds, probably stretching back to Mohammed.

Nice try being a victim. No operation is perfect, but we lost 600,000 in our own freaking Civil War and over 4,000 to free a nation that'll probably end up despising us. At least now, you have a chance to make your own destiny, so you're welcome! Half my squad took casualties for you guys, so thanks for the encouragement!

Roy
"Jun 5, 2009 - 2:01 PM EST...Let's See-- Lying to Congress--What a Concept!!!-- What the HELL do you think Mother Murtha, Baaany "Fruit" Frank, Princess Pelosi, Leaky Lehy an' Reid DO, ALL Day LONG..."

Ollie was a commissioned officer serving the office of the President under oath and lied to Congress performing its constitutional oversight. That is in violation of his oath of office and extremely dangerous to the Constitution and the balance of powers between the Executive and Legislative branches of government

"... I guess bein' a Disgrace in the States, pays pretty well, The WaterGate Guys- [G. Liddy has his own Radio Show,] are doin' well. ..."

I give credit you conservatives take care of people who can still damage you LOL. Do not compare Liddy to Ollie. Liddy refused to talk and had the courage to stand up and go to jail for it. Ollie would have more respect if he had courage to do that but nope he violated his military oath and lied to protect his butt



Well now Guns and Anne! I see
that the Lootenant Kernal aka Scranton's drunk of the year is on his weekly "Ollie is a traitor" kick. The "Kernal" knows all there is about violating one's oath. He violated his oath as an officer and gentleman and also Article 125 of the UCMJ when he openly advocated the serving of sexual perverts in our military.
His intense hatred of the Bush family is the direct result of him being forced to prematurely retire, be RIFFED back to E-6 (his permanent rank) or face a court-martial in 1990.
The more he whines and denies these facts, the more it is obvious that they are true.

HAL
You live in PA. Enough said.

S Sg R--A LIB in Con. Drag
First of all, only a LIB would get upset over Ollie North, and what he did for his Country. Quit Postin' as a Conservative!! Quit TROLL-ING on TH, if ya don't like it. Only a Fool, who has Never Dealt with Reality would worry about what happens to 3rd World Nation Thugs. Their Countries Suck, and they are trying their best to Illegally come Here, and make America Suck. Obamas' Rubber Stamp "Amnesty" Congress, will assure that happens. Your Pres-, Barky HUSSEIN Obama, Th' "Kenyan Kommie", has some Immigration Problems, BUT--HE WON!!--So, the Courts are gonna Stone-Wall the Birth Cert. Issue, And THAT, Along with ACORN, to Rig the next Se-lection Makes his LACK OF Essential "Papers",-- [that Even YOU HAVE],-- ALL-RIGHT!!. You Baby Blue Libs are gonna be the first ones dealt with, when we are completely over-run with 3rd World Trash. They Know how to deal with Quislings,[look it up!] When Georg Soros'[Schwartz's, (his real name)] Pet President's Civilian Defense Force comes RAP TROOPIN'[see video of Obama Youth on U-Tube] down Your street, Rat Out all your Conservative Friends and Neighbors-- Maybe that'l SAVE ya.

I see
the trolls are bringing up 'old news', going after Ollie. They fail to bring up the fact that the so called law imposed on President Reagan was concocted by the resident marxist, led by the House Member from Mass. and other writers of the 'Dear Commandante" letter. They encrouaged the Sandinistas to murder the people who resisted their marxist rule. And for that the nincompoops called Ollie on the carpet..not to get Ollie but to bring down President Reagan. In other words, then as now, our House and Senate (DemonRATs) is infested with "fellow traveling useful idiots" who never saw a communist they didn't love..their oath of office was/is nothing to them, a means to an end. Obama has plenty of help with all the traitors prowling the halls of government in his quest for Fuehrer status.

Hillarious-- HAL Sez---
The LIBERAL A.C.L.U. got Ollie North Off on the Charges Trumped up on him, by The Hero of Chappaquiddick, and his Lib. Dem. Minions. Ya Know,-- the A.C.L.U. was founded by the leader of the Americam COMMUNIST PARTY!! He realized that the American people wouldn't embrace Communism, per se,- so he turned his efforts to subvert us through the COURT System.[Read "Whistleblower] A favorite Dem. Tactic! Little did he DREAM that the Dem. Welfare Vote would Se-Lect a Kenyan Kommie, for President-- Willingly!! BTW-- Hal is Famous on the Baby Blue Fruit-Cake Lib. Blogs, I didn't REALIZE I was Dealin' with ROYALTY.

My sheit screen is clogged.
Oliver North, Marines know how to draw heat. Great job with this 5 star cluster. Nice twist also “Note to White House staff: These are called facts” But you know only gets you not included, like Republicans in the inner sanctum of the Saul Alinsky planning sessions. The Obama administration secretly calls them “Robin Hood town hall” they only lack the Green tights and the ethics. BHO has embarrassed again. If he were a senator we could ask for his censure but he is not he is the CMFIC so we are forced to live with his indiscretions like a drunken father in a family full of Alcoholics. But I do think that his poetic license should be revoked when it comes to the truth. Even his uncle is saying he is spreading the bovine to thick when it comes to Barrack’s depiction of his uncle’s war experience in Germany. Now we know why he didn’t want to go to Germany when he was running for election in the US.

But I have digressed too much from the point. What are Mr. Obama’s priorities. I whish they were the same as mine and millions of Americans who believe that home is the place we need to spend our time and money. Barack insistence at blaming Bush or the Republicans is so shallow. By not discussing his own plans, inking them into mandate and then getting the wimps in the senate and congress to rubber stamp them into law.

As you pointed out Bin Laden doesn't want to be liked or killed. I may be called a Hun I think that Letting Bin Laden live his fear is a good thing. Crude yes effective yes why not have him join Sedan Heusane.

We hear bleats about water boarding. I think that the Johnson Family would have rather H2O for there son who was beheaded in a brutal senseless act of violence. We do seem to loose prospective with Liberals, and are intimidated with shame by intellectuals. But is that really the cost? Is that really intellectual? If it is, Color me stupid and crude, I love America and what it stands for, not what we blame it for.

Responding to Anne's 14:00
You want to guess what Oblunder's latest voter-approval index is?

Nil!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId= 100279

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/oba ma_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

34% (maybe multicounting of highly-delusional such as Dumbahue, Lon, Lonny, wobbie, ...) strongly approve, and exactly the same percentage strongly disapprove.

Obama Leads Us To Islamic Dhimmi
Obama most definitely has started a new era of relations with Muslims, and he did so long before 11/4/08, 1/20/09 or 6/4/09.
From our first knowledge of Obama he has told us in many ways, many times that he is a Muslim, strongly influenced by Socialists, Communists, Black Supremacists and terrorists. He has done this in his bio books, his “campaign rhetoric” as he called it, and in his words and actions before, on and since 1/20/09. Libya’s Muamar Qadafi said in a published speech October 2008, yes ’08, that Obama is a Muslim and we (Muslims) can work with him.
Obama’s intent in concert with all Muslims is to take over the world for Allah, a worldwide caliphate with Islamic Shar’ia law, and to convert, subjugate or murder all unbelievers in Islam starting with Jews and Christians. These have been the aims of Islam since its founding. The aims have been repeated often, loudly and shrilly by Muslim leaders and Muslims demonstrating and rioting in the streets worldwide.
The intents are incorporated in the Shahadah – Muslim confession of faith- that all must say and understand its meaning to be a Muslim: “There is no God but Allah. Mohammed is the messenger of Allah.”
That is a heavily-loaded statement. Unpacked it expresses the aims of Muslims since the founding of Islam. Muslims have made greater progress toward their aims than ever before in the history of Islam. The current resurgence of Islam started at least in the mid-1970s, 30 or so years, six presidents ago.
Muslims believe the U.S. is the best and easiest place for them to take over due to our own laws and somewhat recently-emerged tolerance for diversity in full bloom. For example no one knows for sure how many Muslims are in the U.S. Our own laws preclude us from asking in Census taking. Estimates range widely just as with the number of illegal aliens. My best estimate is 7-10M based on a published figure of 5M six years ago. Any figures to the contrary are bogus. (cont.)

Obama Leads Us To Islamic Dhimmi-2
A principle of Islam is to “seduce (fool, dupe, trick, lie to) them until you are strong enough to take them over.” Obama and his Muslim brothers and sisters have succeeded at this in spades.
With Obama in office refusing to reveal his records of Constitutional eligibility - real birth certificate, college records and others showing citizenship – and campaign finance records, and his actions before, on, since 1/20/09 further collapse of the U.S., preparation for “bailout” by those who hold the world oil and $$, and our submission to some form if Islamic Dhimmi are assured. Most of us are not going to like Dhimmi. Google, read about it to see if you might like it or not.

RIGHT ON BROTHER NORTH
THE DIXIE CHICK TOUR GOES ON,CNN NEWS IS A 24/7 DEMO-RAT RALLY.ITS REALLY LIKE THE TWILIGHT ZONE ONLY WORSE.I THINK CHINA IS LAUGHING,KIM JUNG ILL,THINKS HE CAN GET BY WITH ANYTHING,AND ON THE FORTH OF JULY BHO INVITED IRAN LEADERS FOR KOOL-AID AND HOT DOGS.ITS SAD.

Whose the Alpha Dog?
When you don't want to be the alpha dog and wish to be running constantly back in the pack, it doen't take much imagination to know what your view is of your world. President "Empty Suit" is quickly changing us into a freedom-hating, government tit-sucking citizenry and it looks like both coasts like it, thank you very much. Who would have thought "Yes We Can" was code for "We can destroy America"?

"Hal Donohue" WH*RE of ISLAM
.
HEY HAL, baby...

...TELL US ALL...

SINCE YOU'RE SO COCKY AND ALL ABOUT

ALL THOSE BAAAAAD BUSH SUPPORTERS AND ALL...

JUST HOW IS IT THAT, AFTER YOU SUPPORTED YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR...

...OF OBSTACLES TO BUSH ACTUALLY FIGHTING AND GETTING BIN LADEN...

THAT NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S *H*I*S* "FAULT" THAT BIN LADEN WASN'T CAUGHT...

...YOU TRAITOR?!

Ed Wallis
"Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 8:17 PM EST...OF OBSTACLES TO BUSH ACTUALLY FIGHTING AND GETTING BIN LADEN...

THAT NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S *H*I*S* "FAULT" THAT BIN LADEN WASN'T CAUGHT...

...YOU TRAITOR?!"

Love you too Toots, LOL. GET REAL! The failed Bush had a blank check to get Osama sadly he cashed it in to get Saddam and let the mastermind of 9/11 go free.

The real middle eastern problem is...
that the Jews and the Muslims are as dumb as fox news loving conservatives and they will never get over their misconceptions and hatred.

The POTUS is an @ss.
And I hear that his friends in the Middle East are fond of using that aperture. What a photo op that would make!

Tyler
Takes a lot of hatred in a person to just go on the internet to try and insult people as you and the "liberals" do who spend so much time here doing.

You have to be a very miserable person to dedicate yourself for such useless and wasted efforts

Hal Donahue, the Left's definitive ....
... inability to know Truth from delusional fantasy, colors flying and on full display -- and as willing and ready as every to project the verbalized bowel burblings in which his ilk couch the FasciSSocialist Psychopathology that has him in its squishy grip, wants us to believe the United States most recent president, George Walker Bush, "... let the mastermind of (the atrocities of September 11 2001) go free."

Hmmmmmmm.

OK.

Fair enough.

Now will said Hal Donahue and his Amen Chorus please stop their asinine, uniformly Goebbelsesque pissing and moaning and lock-step lies to the effect the mastermind of the atrocities of September 11 2001 is being 'tortured' in the super max prison state of Cuba's most comfortable digs: the United States Enemy Combatant Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles Califobambicated 90028
And the Far Abroad

C'mon guys
We all know it's Hal Doesn't-have-a-clue and not Hal Donahue! He demonstrates his ignorance every time he posts. He isn't worth the keystroke!

A Parallel
Let's set up a parallel. Your own kids are generally well-behaved but you host your little nephew for a summer, and he is terrible. He sets fire to one neighbor's cat, throws rocks through another one's windows, pulls up people's rosebushes, beats up other children, and sasses adults every time he sees them. Now, thank God, he has gone home and your task is to continue relations with your neighbors because they are looking at you funny and some of them no longer even speak to you.

Do you: a) go out of your way to be conciliatory and respectful, perhaps hoping to make up for the recent bullying, arrogance, and chaotic behavior of the trouble-maker or b) tell your neighbors to go to hell, that you will allow kids in your household to do anything they want and if they don't like it they should remember that you are heavily armed at all times?

Oh, My

By a ratio of 2:1, Americans do not want Gitmo closed.

By a ratio of 3:1, Americans do not want detainees housed in any prison on US soil.

The REAL ID Act prohibits anyone with terrorist links from being allowed into the country, even into a prison like Supermax or Leavenworth. Senator Barack Obama voted for the legislation, as did more than 90 US senators.

Only 19% of Americans believe that Gitmo has had a negative impact on our image in the world.

Only France and Germany (1 each) have accepted Gitmo detainees. They will not even accept the Uighurs, who the Canadians said were too dangerous to allow into the country.

Dick Cheney at 37% has a higher approval rating than Nancy Pelosi (34%).

And, the Democratically-led Intelligence Committee has found that enhanced interrogation techniques HAVE thwarted terrorist attacks, according to GOP members and not denied by the Democrats.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/05/oh-my-house-gop-claim s-new-intel-hearing-confirms-that-enhanced-interrogation-wo rks/

Tyler in WA
Tyler give us some help here please. We need to know a bit about you to assess your credibility. Share with us briefly your qualifications for calling “dumb as fox news loving conservatives” the Jews in little Israel, all 6M or so, about half the world’s Jewish population of 13-14M and the billions of Muslims in the Middle Eastern/West Asia countries surrounding Israel in depth on three sides. Muslim leaders claim 1.7-1.9B Muslims worldwide.
Have you ever been to Israel, any or all of the surrounding Muslim countries? The West Bank in Israel? The Gaza Strip? Can you name the countries, even those sharing borders with Israel? Give us estimates of their populations without Googling? Tell us the approximate land masses of the Muslim countries? The demographics of Israel especially the racial, ethnic and religious mixes exclusive of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, again without Googling?
How about the major resources, products, manufacturing, medical services, principal cities, infrastructure, inventions, innovations of the Israeli Jews and Muslims, Arabs, Palestinians living in Israel, the West Bank, Gaza Strip, or Muslim countries? Nobel or other international awards won by these “dumb” people?
What is your level of education, college
major(s)if any, travel outside your home town, the Washington State and the U.S.? Do you know any Israeli Jews, Muslims, Arabs or Palestinians? If so, how and how well? Have you spent time with talked with them?
I am also curious about why you consider conservatives dumb vs. other labeled people, say liberals, and what evidence(s) you have for your opinions? Further why do you call conservatives “fox news loving,” and what media do you attend to as the basis for your world view?
I am looking forward to hearing from you. I will take a no response as a NO on any qualifications by and for you as a basis for your so wrong opinions reducing the complexities of centuries-old animosities to your simple and simple-minded assessment.

Learn From D-Day
A British veteran of D-Day once remarked that he knew when he left his transfer ship that he would return to England one of three ways: dead, injured, or victorious.

Our fight with Islamofascism is no less dire, in terms of the survial of Western Civilization and the furtherance of democracy.


Watch Reagan's speech at Pointe du Hoc on the 40th anniversary of D-Day here:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ronaldreaganddayad dress.html

And, read his speech of the same day given at Omaha Beach here:

http://www.strategypage.com/respect/articles/reagan_omaha_b each.asp

Army Video On D-Day Commemoration

Army video (8:35 minutes) commemorating D-Day here:

http://www.army.mil/d-day/

the fact that
Obama ordered US marshals to protect abortion clinics but not US military recruiting stations speaks volumes about him.

People are being "willfully blind" to him.

Obama says
we need to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam...

now that's funny




RX Lady
Mega dittos !

"the fact that
Obama ordered US marshals to protect abortion clinics but not US military recruiting stations speaks volumes about him.

People are being "willfully blind" to him".

Did a vet kill the recruiter ? ? ?
Homeland Security is now on guard for Returning U.S. military veterans singled out as particular threats -as reported by talk-radio host and WND columnist Roger Hedgecock, the report cites .......

"the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803

RX Lady & April22

He sent US marshal to protect abortion clinics, but military recruiting office, no. How about the AIG executives? Nice little ACORN invaded their neighborhoods and made death threats to entire families. Did Obama do anything to protect the executives' children? No.

Joel
on a previous thread I supported tinsoldr's assertions regarding the arming of our recruiters but later added that we need them protected with some security. I guess I am of two minds on this issue, I can see both your points, however the fact that this person occupying the White House has tacitly supported the murder of our recruiters and attacking their offices by ignoring the murder of Pvt. Long and wounding of the other young man, then
all bets are off. ARM THEM! We are going to see more attacks before this is over and he is removed from office. I think you are right on having lived among them.
And we'd do well to heed your warnings no matter how often you post them.

It is REALLY simple
Abortion clinics are private entities. Recruiting station activities belong to the Federal government.

The job of Marshals is to protect FEDERAL property and activities, not to protect privately operated abortion clinics. This doofus again fails to do his job as CEO of the United States. Community organizer needs to grow up and do his JOB, not run around playing kiss-up to those who elected him.
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