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Friday, October 10, 2008
Oliver North :: Townhall.com Columnist
October Surprises
by Oliver North
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WASHINGTON -- We're now into the 10th month of an election year, and the so-called mainstream media are on the lookout for an "October surprise." For those too young to remember, the term was coined by the potentates of the press to describe a nonevent: the belief of conspiracy theorists that Ronald Reagan somehow thwarted President Jimmy Carter from achieving the release of 52 American hostages being held in Tehran, Iran, before the 1980 election. It didn't happen; but that hasn't slaked the thirst of print and broadcast "journalists" and "commentators" for a sensational event that will sway voters in the month before an election. What many in the media either don't know or choose not to remember is that October has produced a lot of surprises for Americans.

It was on Oct. 19, 1781, that the success of the American Revolution was assured. That was the day British Gen. Charles Cornwallis surrendered his army to George Washington at Yorktown, Va. Had this "October surprise" not occurred, it's unlikely that we would be holding presidential and congressional elections next month.

John Brown, an abolitionist, raided the U.S. Armory at Harpers Ferry, Va., Oct. 16, 1859, killing and wounding more than a dozen people in an effort to start an insurrection. Three days later, Brown was captured by U.S. Marines led by Robert E. Lee. Though he eventually was hanged for treason, John Brown's "October surprise" led to the election of Abraham Lincoln, secession, the Civil War and the Emancipation Proclamation.

On Oct. 8, 1871, a cow in the barn of Patrick and Catherine O'Leary started what came to be known as the "Great Chicago Fire." In three days, the fire burned nearly four square miles of the largest city west of Manhattan and left tens of thousands homeless. There was no federal aid offered to survivors for rebuilding.

World War I already was four months on when the Ottoman Empire allied with the Central Powers -- Germany and Austria-Hungary -- in October 1914. But Turkey's decision to enter the war -- and the October Revolution in Russia in 1917 -- forever changed the world in which we live.

On Oct. 15, 1938, Adolf Hitler surprised the world by ordering German troops to occupy the Sudetenland. Two weeks earlier, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had returned from the infamous Munich Conference and assured "peace for our time." It was anything but. In October 1939, the Nazis and the Soviets halved and occupied Poland, and by October 1940, Hitler's Luftwaffe was making daylight bombing raids on British cities.

During October 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union came to the brink of war over nuclear-armed missiles that Nikita Khrushchev had shipped to Cuba. Though President Kennedy talked tough in his Oct. 22 broadcast, he secretly agreed to remove U.S. weapons along the Soviet periphery.

Those who believe that this month's collapse of global financial markets is an unprecedented disaster need to study history. The Great Crash of 1929 -- so severe that it makes this year's meltdown pale in comparison -- began Oct. 24. In 1987, Oct. 19 became known as "Black Monday," as Wall Street investors watched the market nose-dive 22 percent and lose $500 billion in value in a single trading session -- still the biggest one-day loss of value in history.

While Sept. 11, 2001, always will be remembered as a day of terror for Americans, October has many more, and all of them cost some of our countrymen their lives. The 23rd of this month is the 25th anniversary of the attack on the U.S. Marine headquarters in Beirut, Lebanon -- a radical Islamic suicide attack that killed 241 Americans. In the aftermath of that assault, U.S. troops pulled out of Lebanon.

On Oct. 7, 1985, Palestinian terrorists hijacked the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro and murdered an American passenger, Leon Klinghoffer. Three days later, they were captured in Sicily as they tried to flee aboard an Egyptian aircraft. In announcing the success, President Reagan said, "You can run, but you can't hide."

Fifteen years ago this month, there was a 19-hour gunfight in Mogadishu, Somalia, which claimed the lives of 18 U.S. Army Rangers and Delta Force personnel. During the operation, two U.S. MH-60 helicopters were downed, and Chief Warrant Officer Michael Durant was captured. For their courage in trying to save him, Master Sgt. Gary Gordon and Sgt. 1st Class Randy Shughart were awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously. Within weeks, President Bill Clinton ordered U.S. forces to withdraw from Somalia.

And as for that first "October surprise" that wasn't: The American hostages were released Jan. 20, 1981 -- the day of Ronald Reagan's inauguration. He was the man the Iranians didn't want to fight.

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No Legitimate Birth Certificate
bo was not born in the us

TO JAYHAWK IN AOTEAROA !
HE OUT RANKS YOU SON, OLIVER NORTH IS A AMERICAN HERO,DONT SPEAK BAD ABOUT SOME ONE THAT HAS HELPED TO SAVE YOUR HIDE!

REZKO WILL SPILL ALL THE BEANS!
THE STUFF WILL CAUSE OBAMA TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE!HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!

Hal Doofass scribbles:
Subject: Carlos the liar
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 8:24 PM EST Subject: Obama, The One-Man Depression !!!

Barack Obama has single-handedly erased $8 Trillion."

My little Carlos please stop telling lies it truly is tiresome

This coming drom the second biggest prevaricator here at TH. Doofass, you would not know the truth, if it bit you on your great lardbucket of a butt.

Carlos the liar
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 8:24 PM EST Subject: Obama, The One-Man Depression !!!

Barack Obama has single-handedly erased $8 Trillion."

My little Carlos please stop telling lies it truly is tiresome


Obama, The One-Man Depression !!!

Barack Obama has single-handedly erased $8 Trillion.

What else is there for McCain to say...

But to state the obvious...

Barack Obama is the single most dangerous man in America. His outrageous Marxist agenda (no longer a secret to stock-holders) has given cheer to Iran, and a death-blow to freedom-loving nations across the globe. The Market collapse is a No-Confidence vote on Barack.

Kick him to the curb !

Obama = Poverty

north was there
im surprised that north would be confused about what regan did before 1980. he was there he was the guy runnin the show.

Winston829
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 7:09 PM EST Subject:..Please repeat after me: "Socialist cannot defeat Communist". ..."

Golly gee all those wishy washy socialist countries in Europe and Asia did mighty fine...

"Vladimir Lenin, the ruthless radical Communist, considered Social-Democrats his mortal enemies; he hated their guts (or no guts). He destroyed them first, even before he dealt with landowners and capitalists."

Exactly my point THEY were his greatest threat

"This is a lesson of History. The only power capable of destroying Communism is the staunch anti-Communism, Sen. McCarthy style or better."

LMAO tail gunner Joe was a fraud and a threat to the Republic but I do find it amusing you think he was good...


Tom
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 7:00 PM EST For Hal ..."

Now go back and see what is says about the scientific reliability of the poll. The reuters/zogby poll is scientific and reflects what I m seeing in my six states on the ground

He is not the right man
MCain is not the right man for the job, specially dealing with Communists. Please repeat after me: "Socialist cannot defeat Communist". This is because Socialist is a mild, liberal democrat in the mold of Jimmy Carter but Communist is a radical and ruthless agent-provocateur bent on the destruction of healthy nations, in the mold of Vladimir Lenin. He is always surrounded by Communist friends playing loyal citizens until the time is right to strike. Read Witness by Whittaker Chambers.

Vladimir Lenin, the ruthless radical Communist, considered Social-Democrats his mortal enemies; he hated their guts (or no guts). He destroyed them first, even before he dealt with landowners and capitalists.

Josef Stalin destroyed them during Spain Civil War and in the conquered Eastern Europe before he dealt with the Nazis and their sympathizers.

This is a lesson of History. The only power capable of destroying Communism is the staunch anti-Communism, Sen. McCarthy style or better. John McCain is not the right man for the job. We knew this long time ago, ever since he "reached across the isle" to collaborate with Democrats. The latter, being Communist sympathizers, used him to the fullest and then threw him to lions when he was no longer needed. But the shortsighted, stupid Republicans elected him to be the Republican candidate and now we all pay a price.

By the way, what has happened to the promise not to elect McCain's sidekick Senators who called us "bigots" after the infamous Comprehensive Immigration reform failed? Lindsey Graham, for one? Does this promise still stand?

David
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 10:43 AM EST Subject: Hal Donahue
Your wrong! I put in over 21 years in the military and currently work with veterans,...It is overwhelmingly pro-McCain! I don't know where you get your info just because you happen to work with a handful of disgruntled vets. "

A big chunk of my info comes from Walter Reed where I have been an in and out patient for a year and a half or so and from talking with returnees and folks in Iraq. Heck my little radio show gets e-mail from Iraq

"They are probably ones that got kicked out for some reason or another, or shouldn't have joined in the first place! "

Ahhh yes those wounded troops how dare they ask for reasonable care and maintenance

For Hal Donohue
(..or Dumbahue, as the case may be)
Read it and weep:

http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/081003_e p_2pp.pdf

Only black active military are supporting Obummer, and that ain't surprising. What IS surprising is that they are not supporting him at anywhere near the proportion of non-military blacks.

Jayhawk in Aotearoa
Aotearoa is the Maori name for New Zealand, (very liberal but one of my favorite places).
Literally translated, Aotearoa means "Land of the Long White Cloud".
Literally translated, "Obama" means "Person of the long Black Lie"

Rowly
McCain's Cabinet

And Rudy for AG! I don't like Rudy's "pro-choice" stand, but if he's named AG and accepts, he carries out McC's policies, pure & simple. Other than "pro-choice", Rudy is one tought cookie.

No confidence, in anyone but Rush
Rush have not yet called off "Operation Chaos" because it last until election day and his army is registered democrats this cycle. They can tell the pollster they are going to vote as they usually do.They have the Obama gear and wear it enough to make their stomach turn. The October surprise might not come until the ditto heads vote for McCain.The Limbaugh effect can not be forgotten. Abortion and judges do not give a conservative any choose but McCain.Palin will be a great vice-president and the best president since Ronald Wilson Reagan.

The market is giving Obama a vote
of "no confidence." Surprise.

"KISS"... Not The Band...

Keep-It-Simple-Stupid

McCain should jam this crisis down Barack's Throat !!

Barack is leading...

Meaning this is Barack's vote of "No Confidence".

McCain could lay it out simple...

Barack scares the money away! He's Bad News!!

McCain's Cabinet
McCain should name part of his cabinet. Mitt,Fred,,etc. That would reassure some who think he is not conservative enough.

McCain should change his tune
McCain should go after the tax code. The taxes are bad, but the code is rotten with special interest laws that require an accountant to interpret ,etc.
He should go after the breakdown in law and order and justice. Example is Fanniegate and ACORN flaunting the law with no punishment of wrong doing. There are many many more examples.
Esam

McCain should change his tune
McCain should go after the tax code. The taxes are bad, but the code is rotten with special interest laws that require an account to interpret ,etc.
He should go after the breakdown in law and order and justice. Example is Fanniegate and ACORN flaunting the law with no punishment of wrong doing. There are many many more examples.

RIGHT ON,LETS JUST HOPE MCCAIN WINS
THE OTHER DUDE IS NOT A PRIZE!

Elect McCain
You know that when McCain is in the white house there will not be any radicals or terriorists sleeping in the Lincon Bedroom.

How to Win... Easy as 1-2-3...

Declare (Truthfully)....

The entire economic crisis is a vote of 'No Confidence' in...

1. Barack 2. Hussein 3. Obama

America's great economic machine was chugging along with little problem, lest a 'minor' slow-down....

And then Mr. 1-2-3 started rising in the polls...

Promising to bring forth a Marxist agenda...

And then all hell broke loose !!!

Cuban Missile Crisis - Oct 1962
Note: 13 mos after Kennedy & Khrushchev were on the brink Intercontinental Nuclear War - JFK was assassinated in Dallas.

LOVE A GOOD HISTORY LESSON
Always love to learn fascinating history facts. Thanks for the research. Waiting expectantly for the October surprise this year. Signed, Still Free in Cajun Country

Jayhawk
Once again we hear from jayhawk, who has nothing of any substance to say about anything. The only thing he/she/it can do is cast aspersions on those who are better than him/her/it. Jayhawk, I doubt you have the courage to have ever been in the military. You would crap your pants the first time a drill instructor got in your face and raised his voice.

Oliie North
The epitome of
SEMPER LIE

Military and McCain
To get an idea of whom the military supports look at the Military times paper survey which can be found electronicaly at http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/081003_ ep_2pp.pdf

68% McCain 23 % obama

The money giving thing is not representative of the military as a whole because if you look at actual numbers of who gave it was less the 1/10 of 1% of the troops that were deployed.

That is an insignificant amount and does not represent statistically significant anything.

I would provide stats for that to but dont have time. Email me for them or google it if ya doubt it.

Tinsldr2@yahoo.com

RE: No October Surprise
Jimmy Carter had better hope that Waxman stays true to form and doesn't start investigating any Democrats. If he did, he'd find that the catalyst for this financial mess of today was the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) passed during Carter's administration and enforced by Janet Reno during the Clinton years. That's the source of all the bad loans to people who couldn't pay. This is a Democrat mess.

I see one October Surprise coming
on 10/14.

That of Harper getting a majority, and Duceppe and Dion losing their Parliamentary seats!

Harper/McCain 2008!

Unfortunate reply to David
I found out yesterday that dumbahue had developped a higher tolerance for the alcohol-chemical mix from which 'he' is permanently buzzed. (See the comments following Cliff May's 2008/10/09 column "Iran's War").

Question for you--is PA jackdaw (aka "Jack", located in PA) an alias for dumbahue?

No October Surprise
Jimmah Cottah is in Brussels today and pronounced the worldwide financial meltdown is none other than ..drumroll,please.....George W.Bush's fault!!!

That old coot knows who is to blame for what is taking place today. There's enough blame to go around,it is true. Old Jimmah,himself owns a lot of it.

He and the Democrats learned how to buy votes long ago and the more favors they gave,the more votes they got. Even Old Jimmah figured that one out.

He has never learned it is not good manners to badmouth us when he is abroad. He never misses a chance to diss someone on this side when he's is 'across the pond'.

CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE
I dare say that anyone who advocates a CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE is not an American and is not deserving to hold the highest office. That is more like communism, the KGB, or even the Gustapo.

No, if that is to happen then I hope and pray that American's would rally, bear arms and openly revolt a Obama presidency.

But fair warning, I know several fellas who can hit a head sized object with a .50 cal at nearly a mile out.

Lone
We're supposed to believe ANYTHING coming from the Center for Responsive Politics? Yet another far-left bunch that will twist facts to suit their leftist ideology. Come up with a credible, believable source, will you?

Lone:
You state that military personnel are donating more to BHO than McCain. We'll really never know what the true figures are, since BHO's campaign is now being exposed for accepting millions of dollars from people and places all over the world. Who knows what the true sources are? Just one more part of his candidacy that is tainted. The dems just have no pride.

Isn't that just like a socialist candidate though -- buy the election at any cost. Not only is this reprehensible for any American politician -- but NEWSFLASH - it's ILLEGAL!!

It's criminal that our media have again chosen not to investigate yet another "questionnable" part of his candidacy.

Your Messiah's integrity is sinking fast. And to think that he arrogantly described himself as a "different kind of politician." Well he is definitely different alright. Hopefully, he will very soon be exposed as the socialist that he is.

Rave on, Lone
No doubt SOME troops will vote for Obama for the same reason their "brothers" will. Your last sentence reveals the idea you're trying to push.

The Military Times annual survey has been an accurate predictor of our armed forces overall voting record since its inception. That's one of the reasons Dems sought to disqualify a large block of absentee ballots from troops overseas during the 2000 "hanging chad" debacle.

Lone
What would you know about military Times subscribers? Nothing!

Publius4254
Yes he has left. Too bad we can't get him to take Lone with him.

Oh...you mean like...
his association with Ralia Odinga in Kenya?Check this out!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId= 77508

October always was my favorite month!

David
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Hal "left the building" a long time ago.

Hal Dumbledor
He has obviously left the building...no responses what so ever!

Hal Dumbahue
I notice Hal still hasn't given us his source for his ridiculous statement that the military family is "flocking" to His Highness Hussein. That's because he has no source, he made it up(translation for liberals: HE LIED!).

Reagan
Just ask Moammar Gadhafi if he ended up with a healthy respect for Reagan! A bomb through your front door does wonders. I am sure the Iranians thought the same.

Taft
Did the author of the book speak with the Iranians to validate their NON fear of Reagan? If they were REALLY afraid of Reagan, would they admit it?

Hal Donahue
Your wrong! I put in over 21 years in the military and currently work with veterans, and active duty members at several military bases world wide, and only a handful think Obama has any sense. It is overwhelmingly pro-McCain! I don't know where you get your info just because you happen to work with a handful of disgruntled vets. They are probably ones that got kicked out for some reason or another, or shouldn't have joined in the first place!

Tom
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 9:32 AM EST Hal Donahue
I put 20+ years in the military, currently work for the military and only a few of the liberals curently in the military think Nobama has the backbone or experience to lead the country."

That is what was but there has really been a sea change in the past year accelerating rapidly this summer. I say this because I work with Veterans for Obama and have been carefully watching it. The Reuters/Zogby poll only confirms what I see on the ground

" You said "The military family is flocking to Obama." but you are completely out of touch with what the military is thinking. Notice I didn't say "feeling" because conservatives "think" and then act not "feel" and then act. "

Read above and by the way I am retired military and deal with military and veterans every day

Ikester & Publius4254
For Ikester: Not a problem my friend. I come from a long line of military folks, and was glad I went in.

For Publius4254: Hal will probably cite Reuters/Zogby or even AP Polls that haven't been close in years.

Hal Dumbahue
Please cite your sources that show the military family is "flocking" to His Highness Hussein.

So true...
The only error in your report concern Mrs. O'leary and her cow. This was proven to be bogus but she was made the scapegoat. They proved that the fire was started in another location.
I am praying for this ACORN deal to be the October surprise that pops Obama's bubble.
Thanks for your service to our nation.

Hal Donahue
I put 20+ years in the military, currently work for the military and only a few of the liberals curently in the military think Nobama has the backbone or experience to lead the country. You said "The military family is flocking to Obama." but you are completely out of touch with what the military is thinking. Notice I didn't say "feeling" because conservatives "think" and then act not "feel" and then act.

Tom
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 9:03 AM EST Subject: Hal Doofus and Reuters/Zogby
If you believe the Reuters/Zogby polls after they predicted that Gore would win by 15% then you get what you deserve."

I don't actually but it is nice when they match what you see on the ground and internals. The military family is flocking to Obama.

"You are just like the rest of the liberals, bring up the "race" card against any conservative, but remember big guy...you brought it up. "

All I did was ask the question. LOL

wayward1
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 8:50 AM EST Subject: Democrat Controlled Congress
For the last 66 out of 80 years but according to Donahue, the conservative "ilk" failed to invest in the future."

Oh no the last 30 or so before that we were all "socialists"n according to conservatives. Under Eisenhauer what was the highest tax rate 75 or 90%?

"I don't recall seeing many "conservative" democrats."

well you have not been looking then

"Rather, big spending hypocrites who are trapped in the past, ..."

You just described the Republican Party every R administration since Reagan has been big spending and bigger government

"...fighting battles already won two decades ago yet claiming to be enlightened, progressive and fair. As if repeating the lie enough times to convince yourself...."

Oh what battles are those? If you mean investing in people and America when did that battle end? Heck you guys are proving the disaster of not doing it right this moment

"Lay off the drugs Mr. Donahue. "

Now you are calling me a drug addict???? LOL

"This "conservative" ilk, is heading to work. "

You had best while it is still there....

Hal Doofus and Reuters/Zogby
If you believe the Reuters/Zogby polls after they predicted that Gore would win by 15% then you get what you deserve. You are just like the rest of the liberals, bring up the "race" card against any conservative, but remember big guy...you brought it up.

Thanks for the history review in your
outstanding column Col. North.

B O is offensive!

TBC ~:>{)

Oct. Suprise from July
On July 2 2008 Obama gave a speach in Colorado Springs in it he stated as President he will create the CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE that will be as powerful and well funded as the US Military.
He is a constitutional lawyer so ob must have found a loophole to even think that he could create such a SECURITY FOCE inside the US.
Wether he can or can that is not the point the point is he wants it!
This is not a peace Force this is for control don't let him fool you.
The yellow Media wont ask OB one Question on it like Why we need it? Who will he put incharge of it? Where will he deploy this SECURITY FORCE AS POWERFUL AS THE US MILITARY INSIDE THE USA.
Put the pressure on he has tipped his hand make him explain this new FORCE Oblabla wants to unlease on us all!!
You have been warned

THE BEST OCTOBER SURPRISE...
...would be finding out Obama is not legally qualified to be President:

http://www.obamacrimes.com

There would be dancing in the streets in conservative neighborhoods.

wayward1 8:50am
"Gray Ghost: Thank you for your comments. We all play our part."

My pleasure sir.

I have to get back to work. I hope your day is a good one. Engineering in Mississippi has been very busy for the last 6 weeks and I have to mail out a project this morning.

Hal Doofus Rides Again!
"Are you saying this has something to do about race????"

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

I have been waiting for you to throw out "the race card"! However, I really expected you to be alittle more subtle in your tactics.

The Doofus goes back to the Democrat Play Book and uses one of the standard "plays". What a maroon!

(Hey Doofus, no one was talking about race until you brought it up.)

Democrat Controlled Congress
For the last 66 out of 80 years but according to Donahue, the conservative "ilk" failed to invest in the future.

I don't recall seeing many "conservative" democrats.

Rather, big spending hypocrites who are trapped in the past, fighting battles already won two decades ago yet claiming to be enlightened, progressive and fair. As if repeating the lie enough times to convince yourself.

Lay off the drugs Mr. Donahue.

This "conservative" ilk, is heading to work.

Gray Ghost: Thank you for your comments. We all play our part.

Hal Doofus Rides Again!
"No sir this decay is ALMOST all your ilk's fault"

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

Doofus, you still haven't explained Barney Frank's part in this economic "melt down". And the last time I looked, he was a Liberal Democrat.

Hal Doofus Rides Again!
"You are a liar"

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

More name calling, Doofus?

Really, Hal you should stay off the booze until at least lunch time.

"Thank you for your service and your citizenship but that does not make you right."

You said this to "wayward1"; but doesn't it also apply to you?

Your own words betray you Doofus. Unless you are "God", you cannot be sure that you are 100% correct about our country?

Doofus, stop acting "arrogant". You could be just as wrong as you believe "wayward1" is.



Warrior
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 8:23 AM EST Subject: .... the Democrat who could not get a Security Clearance, if a proper "Background Investigation" was run on him."

LMAO and Bush the torturer who admits being both a drug and liquor addict whose "disappeared" during wartime from a flying squadron and has far too many numerous shady friends even to mention could? Or How about the elderly McCain who admits every vice except drugs? Who actually wrote that he has put party before country and constitutents? Actually, Obama would indeed be given a security clearance and PRP after a debriefing sesion

"...wants to expand Affirmative Action to reveal secrets and give nuclear release access in pursuit of Social Manipulation instead of an unbiased race neutral review of background information that would reveal the character of a loyal trustworthy American...."

Are you saying this has something to do about race????

Hal Doofus Rides Again!
"Oh get off it little fella."

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

At 6', I really don't think I am a "little fella". And if you mean little in "spirit", I think I just got your "goat".

If you mean "little" in character, I am the one "holding a losing position", at least according to you. But I haven't retreated. So I think you are wrong in that case.

Your choices are rather limited Doofus.

But one thing for sure. Your standard means of defending yourself is to call others names and then cry "foul" when the favor is returned.

Reuters/Zogby
McCain, 72, a former Navy fighter pilot and Vietnam prisoner of war, fell behind Obama among voters with a member of the military in their family.

Hal Dungahue
Hal wants a totally revamped government; I wonder which type he has in mind. Unless Hal plans to come up with some brand new ideology (that would require a brain transplant), he wants to try one of the failed systems from the history books of man's cruelty to man. The "Dung" backs the Democrat who could not get a Security Clearance, if a proper "Background Investigation" was run on him. Obama would stand no chance of being placed in the Personnel Reliability Program (PRP) required of all military personnel before being given access to nuclear weapons. Dung wants to expand Affirmative Action to reveal secrets and give nuclear release access in pursuit of Social Manipulation instead of an unbiased race neutral review of background information that would reveal the character of a loyal trustworthy American. The Dung is confused and conflicted.

wayward1
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 8:03 AM EST Donahue
No,...My ilk served for 21 years military, retired and started a second career, pay their taxes, and are generally, productive citizens..."

Thank you for your service and your citizenship but that does not make you right.

"...who are sick to death of leeches like you and your policies that have destroyed our economy, ruined our education system, made healthcare unaffordable and has led to the loss of our manufacturing base."

Why? How can you say that? Because I only served 20 years perhaps? Look you conservatives used everything the greatest generation built and did not replace or improve it - rather you failed to invest in the future at all. You see all those items you list above need attention and funding. What conservatism did was remove both. No sir this decay is ALMOST all your ilk's fault

"I'm just one of the silent majority Hal, but now I'm speaking up. "

You may once have been but now you are in a decided minority thank goodness

Gray Ghost
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 7:59 AM EST Subject: Hal ...I noticed you didn't say Col. North was wrong. So even you admit that Obama is a "big-spending Chicago hack"? "

Oh get off it little fella. You are a liar not name calling just stating a fact. Ollie gave you a shooping list instead of a column and you bought it LOL. Enjoy


wayward1
Thanks for your 21 years of service to our country. It is people like yourself who makes this country great, in spite of the "Looney Left" like Hal Doofus.

Hal Doofus Rides Again!
"Was this meant to provide hope to your conservative buddies? Haven't you and your cronies done enough damage to the country? Shame"

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

More name calling, Doofus?

The real shame is that people like you are even walking around, wasting air, and acting like "Groupies" for the Socialist/Democrat party.

BTW, Col. Jake sends his regards and asks, "Do you still take long restroom breaks?"

Donahue
No,

My ilk served for 21 years military, retired and started a second career, pay their taxes, and are generally, productive citizens who are sick to death of leeches like you and your policies that have destroyed our economy, ruined our education system, made healthcare unaffordable and has led to the loss of our manufacturing base.

I'm just one of the silent majority Hal, but now I'm speaking up.

Hal Doofus Rides Again!
"...Solutions will never come about with a big-spending Chicago hack like Obama at the helm..."

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

I noticed you didn't say Col. North was wrong. So even you admit that Obama is a "big-spending Chicago hack"?

Hal Doofus Strikes Again!
" No regulation, no inspections, no oversight = what we have today"

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

Barney Franks, a Democrat, helped stopped the oversight of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

Surely you remember this. It was in all the Democrat papers.

Hal Doofus Rides Again!
" No regulation, no inspections, no oversight = what we have today - your ILK did this"

"Guess what name calling won't help"

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

But Doofus, you just called names in your post.

wayward1
"Date: Oct 10, 2008 - 7:29 AM EST ...and now everything is crashing down because of the theory of entitlement."

Oh you mean when we became a super power and had the best economy, education, healthcare, manufacturing, etc in the world? It is your revised Hooverism dressed as conservatism that caused this disaster - own up and stop whining. No regulation, no inspections, no oversight = what we have today - your ilk did this

"...Solutions will never come about with a big-spending Chicago hack like Obama at the helm..."

Is this where I say: nor will a tired, confused, really old guy from AZ who as Rush likes to put it served in Vietnam do it? Get real we need a totally revamped government to repair the damage to the country. Guess what name calling won't help

Other October Surprises:
October 26, 1881 -- the Gunfight at the OK Corral. And, who can forget what happened on October 12, 1492?

Dan
How about a democrat controlled congress for 66 years out of the last 80 in which they have manipulated the free market. Hundreds of examples from which to study, and now everything is crashing down because of the theory of entitlement.

As to the cure, ending the Fed would be a great start. Then we might come up with "real" economic reform.

Solutions will never come about with a big-spending Chicago hack like Obama at the helm.

Ollie
Was this meant to provide hope to your conservative buddies? Haven't you and your cronies done enough damage to the country? Shame

Oliver
The Iranians released the hostages because they hated Carter for letting the Shaw in the US, remember, that's why they attacked the embassy. Reagan wasn't scary to them. Reagan was , I'm afraid, hypocritical about Carter. Later in his own administration he showed the same inability to deal with a hostage situation.

A great book on the whole Iranian Hostage episode is in this book.

The Ayatollah in the Cathedral: Reflections of a Hostage [1986]
by Moorhead Kennedy


_"During the TWA hostage crises, President Reagan, for all his campaign criticism of Carter handling of our hostage situation, followed much the same negotiating path." p138

October surprise
Ok, "Wayward". Since you say I'm ignorant of the 'real causes' of the economic meltdown, I guess you aren't. Why don't you enlighten me. What are the causes? What are the cures?

Dan
You hit the nail on the head. As long as individuals like you who remain ignorant as to the real causes for the market meltdown, the worst will most certainly be yet to come.

What will likely happen is you will elect your "savior" and he will "grant" you bondage.


October surprise
The October surprise IS the economic meltdown, trillions lost by Americans who worked to save for their retirement.
Reasons: there are many, but the failed Bush-McCain economic policies are a big part...turning surplus to deficit, market over-deregulation, tax cuts for the very rich, failure to enact even modest health policy changes, and basically disengagement from paying attention to what was happening.
And, it may be that the worst is yet to come.

whoops!!!
Didn't mean to send it twice but maybe it'll bring that surprise on!!!!

Christine

"...October surprise as a present!"
Show us your birth certificate, Obamacon!

SURPRISE!!!!!
Tomorrow is my birthday. Wouldn't it be nice to get an October surprise as a present?
Maybe some new revelations about Obama that the main street media HAD to cover!!!!

Christine

I'm praying for a miracle!!!
Tomorrow is my birthday, now wouldn't it be nice to get a October surprise as a present!
Maybe some more revelations about Obama that the main street media CAN'T ignore!!!!!!

Christine
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