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Thursday, July 24, 2008
Oliver North :: Townhall.com Columnist
Fighting Our Fight
by Oliver North
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Note: The U.S. military has always stood in harm’s way, protecting American liberties and keeping us safe. The soldiers are the true heroes and our source of strength. The following feature article by Col. Oliver North was published in the July issue of Townhall Magazine. Click here to receive Townhall Magazine every month.

American pop culture has skewed the public’s view of what makes a hero in today’s world and what types of behavior make a person worthy of our attention and accolades. Those who contribute to the greatness of our country are largely ignored by the media who worship the cult of celebrity.

Most Americans are familiar with the latest celebrity scandal; they can recite the particulars of the latest Hollywood divorce and Rattle off a list of “American Idol” winners. They know who set the new home run record or led his team to a Super Bowl victory. But if asked to name any Medal of Honor recipient from Operation Enduring Freedom or Operation Iraqi Freedom, most Americans likely could not answer Paul Smith, Jason Dunham, Michael Murphy or Michael Monsoor.

The problem, of course, is not really with “most Americans,” but with the masters of the so-called mainstream media—those who decide what is and isn’t “news” for the rest of us. In this celebrity-driven, info-entertainment age, both television and print media elites devote far more broadcast time and column inches to the foibles of the famous than on those who serve our nation in uniform.

Those who give us our “news” are much more likely to define a hero” as a record-setting athlete, a “daring” politician or even a cartoon character wearing a spandex suit and a cape. In the midst of a war against a brutal enemy, that’s not just a shame—it’s dangerous. Yet, as I have traveled our country signing copies of my new best seller, “American Heroes,” I find that it is pervasive, despite the fact that we’re celebrating the 232nd anniversary of our Independence.

A true hero is a person who puts himself at risk for the benefit of another. My heroes wear flak jackets, helmets, flight suits and combat boots—and they serve our country in ways that quite frankly aren’t recognized enough by our countrymen.

Know the Enemy

To understand the heroism of those who serve in our military, consider the danger that confronts those who serve on the front lines.

Though it’s not politically correct to say so, radical Islam is, perhaps, the greatest threat we have ever confronted as a nation. It is an ideology of hatred whose most virulent adherents and leaders convince their followers to kill themselves in the process of killing those they describe as infidels or kuffars.

During World War II in the Pacific Theater, we faced an adversary who wanted to die in order to kill us. Kamikazes and Banzai attacks pitted us against members of a military machine who intended to die in carrying out their attacks. But even these assaults were aimed at our soldiers, sailors and Marines. Radical Islamic terrorists don’t care if their targets are men or women, military or civilian, Christians, Jews—or even fellow Muslims.

In their own writings, these radicals state that their immediate goal is to re-establish an Islamic Caliphate from Casablanca in the west to Bali in the east. Within that caliphate, no element or institution of Judeo-Christian culture will remain. To achieve that goal, they have launched a jihad against anyone they perceive to be an opponent. That’s why Sept. 11 happened and why there have been so many suicide-homicides—from London to Tel Aviv, Madrid, Amman, Mosul, Bali and Baghdad.

Our military is doing everything it can to respond to this jihad. A major part of the answer is seen in what young American troops have been doing at great personal risk and hardship in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Philippines, the horn of Africa and the Persian Gulf. These Americans have become the protectors of Muslim women. Women with fingers still purple from voting in free elections don’t cast a ballot to have their sons become suicide terrorists. They want their children to get an education, to have basic human rights, to have an opportunity to live the right way—not die a martyr’s death. Muslim women are key to ending the jihad.

The Surge Is Working

Everywhere I go in the United States, I’m repeatedly asked if the “campaigns” in Iraq and Afghanistan are winnable and if the surge is working. I certainly don’t pretend to have the gift of prophecy—but there is no doubt from all that I saw on my last trip out there that the surge in Iraq is working. We’re now “surging” more U.S. troops to Afghanistan, which I believe will work, too.

When my friend and editor Chuck Holton and I were in Iraq wrapping up “American Heroes,” we walked down the streets of Fallujah and Ramadi on which I had been shot at every time I had been there. I went into the Souk—the market—without wearing a flak jacket or helmet. We went on operations with Iraqi units that didn’t even exist before the surge. Everyone ought to read what the Iraqis themselves are saying about the progress they are making and why they “came over”—whether they were Sunni or Shiite. Unfortunately, none of this is in the mainstream media.

Americans are not hearing more about the good news in Iraq largely because we don’t have enough correspondents out in the field. A lot of reporters and bureaus are back in the “green zone” in Baghdad filing balcony shots from air-conditioned hotel rooms and buying tape from guys with “Al-Jazeera” or “Al-Arabia” or even “Iranian TV” emblazoned on the sides of their cameras. A good number of those cameras spend a lot of time traveling with the bad guys. When we go out there, we live with the good guys. It offers a dramatically different perspective than you get at home from the mainstream media.

I’ve been to this war a dozen times and can attest that our troops are superb. Yet the fighting continues and the operation remains widely unpopular at home.

Have mistakes been made? Certainly, but what Americans should understand is that most of the things that went wrong were the consequence of high-level political decisions.

For example, as I’ve discovered in the hundreds of interviews I’ve conducted with troops, and the analysis I’ve done for my reports for Fox News, my Townhall.com columns and “American Heroes,” few people outside our military actually seem to realize that the war that is being waged against us is much more than Iraq or Afghanistan. Those are just two campaigns in a much wider struggle against radical Islam. For a variety of reasons, our political leaders failed to mobilize our nation to the magnitude of the threat we face after the attack of Sept. 11. There is also the fact that our all-volunteer military is too small to “go-it-alone.” With the exception of the British and the Australians, our military “allies” did not join us in a broad-based coalition that would allow us to put “boots on the ground” everywhere we needed to go. After the liberation of Baghdad, we did not recall the Iraqi Army like we did the German Army in 1945.

None of this, however, should diminish the extraordinary courage, perseverance and success achieved by the troops themselves—or the sacrifices of their families.

High-Caliber Men and Women

No nation has ever had soldiers, sailors, airmen, Guardsmen and Marines as bright, well educated and, now, as combat experienced as those serving our military today. These are remarkable young Americans. They are all volunteers. They committed themselves to service in a time of war. They know that by volunteering to wear a U.S. military uniform they will likely be sent into harm’s way and to serve in some of the most difficult places and dangerous circumstances on earth.

Today, the re-enlistment rate—the best barometer of troop morale—is the highest it has ever been. All of this is occurring in the midst of extremely adverse publicity from my colleagues in the so-called mainstream media. The troops who have “been-there-done-that” know that they are winning the fight against radical Islam—and they wouldn’t “re-up” if they believed they were serving in a losing cause.

I’m a son of what Tom Brokaw called the “greatest generation.” My Mom and Dad weathered the Great Depression, met at a USO dance and married before he went off to fight the Nazis in Europe. All my uncles served in World War II. Growing up, all my heroes were people who had fought in World War II, Korea or both. All of my brothers and I served in combat. That’s the context for my observations of those who serve in uniform today. It is what leads me to conclude that these men and women are of a different mold.

The troops that famous World War II reporter Ernie Pyle covered were part of a U.S. military that numbered more than 16.5 million men and women in uniform—and it’s said that every American family knew the name of someone serving. All of that has changed. Today our country’s population is nearly twice as large—but our active-duty military is fewer than 2 million strong. Even though more than 1 million young Americans have served in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2001, fewer than 2 percent of the American people even know the name of someone serving in uniform.

Unique in This Era

Today’s military is better educated than the general population. Overall, they are more goal-oriented than their peers. They have a clear sense of purpose in what they have chosen to do and know that they are part of something bigger than “self.” In my conversations with them, it is also evident that a remarkable number of them have extraordinary faith.

Some troops may still be able to take obscene language to the level of a new art form, but an astounding number of them know the Lord, they know the Good Book and they’re unashamed to be seen reading from it. They pray before going out on missions, lead Bible studies and willingly attend memorial services for their fallen brethren. The photos I put in “American Heroes” of them praying aren’t staged. They aren’t getting ready for a football game. They are going into harm’s way. They know that they’re in grave jeopardy, and yet they constantly go back and do it day in and day out. They have a selflessness that is literally biblical.

War changes everyone it touches. Ground combat is the most awful experience a human can endure. Even though I have spent most of my life in and around the military, I never used to think that post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) was real. Now, I know better—in large part because of what I have observed on the battlefield over the last seven years.

My time with the troops has bolstered my own faith. I have long known where I am going and why I am going there, but these men and women have also reinforced my belief that God has purpose for my life beyond what I can comprehend.

Covering this war has also made me even more grateful for the support, encouragement and prayers of my family when I’m in harm’s way and has also changed my perspective on the women who serve in our Armed Forces, giving me a greater awareness of the sacrifices demanded of their families back home.

Where We Could Do Better

Our military has experienced great success in the fight against radical Islam, but more needs to be done on other fronts.

First, we ought not to be afraid to describe ourselves as we really are. Christianity and our Judeo-Christian value system are not a threat to anybody, and we should never be ashamed of that. The United States has introduced freedom to more people on the planet than anybody or any combination of countries has ever done. We need to tell that story more often.

Second, we need to be straightforward about the nature of radical Islam. We constantly hear that this is not a religious war, but that’s not how the enemy sees it. When a suicide terrorist intentionally puts on a bomb jacket or gets into a vehicle full of explosives and drives it into a crowd of Iraqis, Americans, Britons, Spaniards, Israelis or Jordanians, they intend to die in the process of killing one or more of us. They are not always targeting Americans—many times it’s a crowd of their countrymen and fellow Muslims. These terrorists have been radicalized by people who have taught them to die the “right” way. For us, all the dying was done 2,000 years ago on a hill called Calvary. We’re taught to live the right way. There’s an enormous difference.

Third, we must remember that we didn’t start this war—they did. We need to remind our countrymen and our “allies” in that part of the world, who are glad to get our petrodollars but won’t let a Bible into their country, that not enough is being done to reign in radical Islam. We especially need to remind our fellow Americans who say, “well, gee, this is all our fault,” that it’s not. We didn’t provoke the attack on Sept. 11 or Saddam’s threats. Most importantly, as is evident from the hundreds I interviewed for “American Heroes,” this is a war we can win—and dare not lose.

Those of us who enjoy our liberties in this country need to get to know the men and women serving in uniform. These heroes are the protectors of our liberty. It’s been that way for 232 years. That’s why we can claim that we’re the home of the brave and the land of the free.

Note: The U.S. military has always stood in harm’s way, protecting American liberties and keeping us safe. The soldiers are the true heroes and our source of strength. This feature article by Col. Oliver North was published in the July issue of Townhall Magazine. Click here to receive Townhall Magazine every month.

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Wonder What General Petreus Thought
I can only wonder what General Petreus thought when he was talking to Obama and listening to the Senator's ideas.

Probably wanted to back-hand the pup.

Obama Yanks Defeat From Jaws Of Victory
It doesn't seem to matter to Obama what the conditions on the ground are, or what our casualties or successes have been. Obama was fine with Saddam in power, helping and supporting terrorists. Yes, Saddam DID have WMD; he used some of them on his own people, and we have located tons of yellowcake uranium. That's WMD, not actual cake.

America loves it's troops and we want them to finish the mission and come home to the hero's welcome they deserve, when stability is achieved. America supports it's troops and prays for their speedy success and return home safely, and we support them by wanting them to have a leader they can respect and look up to, a leader who will let them win. A leader with as much courage as they have. Gotta vote McCain.

Robert
I know that you have a hard time configuring Kirkuk into your assertions of the surge succeeding, but has the fact that the all-important provincial elections are now off due to the emerging crisis in Kirkuk lifted the scales from your eyes?

Bryce
Wobbie(Robert) has a hard time configuring the real world, be it the lefts or the rights point of view, into his life, period.

That's why he's our Villege Idiot.

Brickhouse, You're being too kind
To Obama in your 12:56 AM post.

I'm more inclined to think Gen. Petraeus would rather have been in an intense fire fight with 100 Jihadists than having to deal with that brain dead moron.

The problem is
a lot of Americans seem to be agnostic antireligionists and self-made antiChrists.

We are Winning
Don't be hoodwinked by the MSM. We are winning in Iraq and Afghanistan.


http://Vets4McCain.com

Muslim women
From the beginning of the war on islamic terrorists, I have maintained that a major force in stopping the murdering bombers (and the terrorism in general) is the Muslim women. However, I am getting discouraged that there is any possibility that they will have an impact. Maybe I am not seeing it and would love to be enlightened, but the ones I live among are content with the Muslim way of life.

War on Terror = Education of Children

The radical islamic terrorists army is derived from the education of children. This army has been developed for decades and continues in some areas today.

The war on radical islamic terrorism will continue for at least one generation after the last radical madrass is shut down, i.e. after the last soldier is indoctrinated.

Even if Muslim women prefer their children embrace a moderate philosophy, but they allow their children to be trained in a radical madras, such moderation may not prevail.

If a generation remains politically influential for 40 years, this will be the length of the war on terror beginning from the end of "last radical madrass".

Right on, Ollie, WillyVictor 32
The only thing that will help us in the long run is a reinvigoration of Western Judaeo-Christian culture, our competing (and vastly superior) ideology to jihadism. That goes even more for Eurabia, which is probably already lost.

Just like we won the cold war mainly because our Western freedom/capitalism was superior to communism. In other words, strategy is far more than tactics. if its just a matter of moving our valiant human chess pieces around the board, we will have a repeat of Vietnam, where we 'won' all the battles but lost the war, because the enemy wanted it more, they knew what they were fighing for, we didn't.


Ollie
"Those of us who enjoy our liberties in this country need to get to know the men and women serving in uniform. These heroes are the protectors of our liberty. It’s been that way for 232 years. "

You stabbed them in the back Ollie! You violated your oath as an officer and embarrassed the USMC. You were a convicted felon until the ACLU helped you get the convictions overthrown on technicalities. Now you are a shill for opinion media. Shame!

Iraq is not a religious war it is a war of choice that is almost over many billions of dollars and thousands of lives later.

The truth is the Bush Regime blundered massively yet you still bluster away. This is a war against criminal terrorists using Islam as justification and a recruiting tool. It is NO where near the most dangerous enemy we have ever faced, remember the Soviet Union who could have killed at least 25 MILLION citizens in less than an hour? It is just an enemy we helped grow stronger now we will get real leadership to destroy them and rebuild the military and the nation

Hal, you're superficial and naive.
Read the Koran. Read "Al Qaeda it its own words," edited by Kepel and Milelli. Despite his checkered past, Ollie is right. Know thine enemy. No, of course 90% of Muslims are not jihadists. But they seem to tolerate the jihadists in their midst, and would indeed be happy if the whole world were one Dar-el-Salaam.

Hal Donahue; reality just passed you by
To those on the left, white is black and black is white. Donahue blames the good, and makes appologies for the bad. Im thinking the guy is paid by the socialists with his hatred of anything nobel, anything worthy of praise, anything good.

Col. North
Thanks so much for a wonderful article today!

No matter how hard the MSM and anti-war groups try to spin it, the surge IS working. It's a pity some people would rather disparage the success rather than acknowledge it.


Joseph
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 8:24 AM EST Hal, you're superficial and naive.
Read the Koran. Read "Al Qaeda it its own words," edited by Kepel and Milelli. Despite his checkered past, Ollie is right. Know thine enemy. "

Read the section in last week's Economist it is excellent and a good outline of what is happening. I know my enemy very well and have occasionally lived among them for short periods. Ollie is very wrong. FYI The Economist is a conservative publication

Thanks, Hal!!!
That's another $.25 into my Freedom Alliance fund jar!!

Keep posting! I'm sure Col. North will appreciate the donation!!!

TESTING
TESTING

North Is right
I totally agree with Oliver North, our troops are the real heros of our time and they do not get enough credit and recognition. What is most facinatng though is what North does not say or what he glosses over in his praise of the troops.

Here are some facts. The Bush administation resisted any attempt to provide public recognition of our fallen soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice. This is because the sold the war as cheap and easy which wars never are. Remember how conservative media attacked nightline for simply wanting to read the names of the fallen. Even to this day there are stories of families that wanted the press to cover funerals at Arlington with the Bush administration saying no.

Then you have the made of story about Jessica Lynch of WV. Or the lies told about Pat Tillman's Death. It seems like the Bush administration never trusted the American People to tell them the harsh and complex truths and in the process dishonored all soldiers. When North talks about the high level mistakes he means mistakes in the Bush administration including the Rush to war before developing a strong coalition, sending troops in with improper armor, etc. Bush likes to say he listens to the generals. That is a lie. He listens to the generals who agree with him and fires the ones that don't.

Honoring our troops means recognizing their needs in and out of uniform. But that has not happened under the Republicans. First you have the defeat of an amendment that would have exempted soldiers on active duty from the new bankrupsy restrictions. Defeated by the Republican Majority- Credit card companies first soldiers last. Then you had Webb's minimum rotation bill opposed by the Bush White House. New GI bill, opposed by John McCain and GWB, but many Republicans crossed over and it passed.

Col. North..
...You know as well as the rest of “US” Vets that as far as the people and our Government are concerned we of the Military are seconded class citizens and nothing more. This has been proven by statements of our Congressmen / woman in a following way. “I’m a Congressman! I’m not staying in the O-Club I’m going to a real hotel. I’m not a second class citizen!” Col. North; ring any bells for you? The Veterans Administration are only pacifying the Vet’s and in fact do the least amount they can for them. This is sad to say but is however true after the Gov. promised to take care of us if we served. I also must thank You Col. for falling on your sward the way you did as that took brass to go above and beyond after they hung you out to dry. The fact is there is a lot of Vets that have been screwed, blued and tattooed buy the American people and defiantly the Vietnam Vets have been and still are.
This was a good read I just wish more of our Congress and Senate understood what you have said however I do not think our Congress or Senate has any Honor in their blood anymore. There is something wrong in the Congress and Senate yet no one wants to admit it or face it. The People are doing with Congress the same as Congress is doing about Illegal Aliens, nothing! Good try Col., deaf ears!

brickhouse says:
"Yes, Saddam DID have WMD; he used some of them on his own people, and we have located tons of yellowcake uranium. That's WMD, not actual cake."

No - that's processed uranium used to fule nuclear reactors. WMDs are weapons in the ready - you know, rockets, bombs, missles - not piles of radiactive material - in fact, those tons of yellowcake? Sold to a Candian company. Are you suggesting that we sold WMDs to a Canadian company?

Don't be silly.



Marine's Dad says:
"I'm more inclined to think Gen. Petraeus would rather have been in an intense fire fight with 100 Jihadists than having to deal with that brain dead moron. "

That brain dead moron may very well be the general's boss in six months - plus, after working for George Bush, who military men MUST despise (we know McCain does), Obama or McCain must seem like a fresh breeze. I hope Obama wins, then your son will not only salute that brain-dead moron, he'll take his every order...with a smile!

Hal
Thank you for posting and showing your support for conservative causes, especially Freedom Alliance.

JMO51
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 9:00 AM EST North Is right
....Honoring our troops means recognizing their needs in and out of uniform. But that has not happened under the Republicans. First you have the defeat of an amendment that would have exempted soldiers on active duty from the new bankrupsy restrictions. Defeated by the Republican Majority- Credit card companies first soldiers last. Then you had Webb's minimum rotation bill opposed by the Bush White House. New GI bill, opposed by John McCain and GWB, but many Republicans crossed over and it passed."

Amen to that and these folks wonder why they are losing the troops. The best was that McCain opposed the GI BIll and I think was the only Senator not to VOTE at all even Kennedy did. Then, then McCain claimed he supported the bill LMAO geesh

Make Hal Pay campaign
Everyone:

Yesterday, some of us started up the "Make Hal Pay" campaign.

Here's how it works: Everytime you see a post from the resident troll named Hal Donahue, toss a coin (penny, nickel, dime, whatever you can afford) into a jar. When the jar fills up, donate that money to a worthwhile conservative cause. That way we can turn Hal's crap into something positive.

Here's hoping we can get all conservatives here involved in the campaign.

Hal
Good job there raising money for conservative causes. That's two for today, two coins in the donation jar.

Keep it up, ya miserable puke!

Defining Liberals' Useful Idiocy
As a result of having given credence to the lie of moral relativism and political correctness, which allow for on-demand abortion of innocent lives and which holds that marriage between two men is as morally acceptable as life-sustaining marriage between a man and a woman, we are fast becoming a culture of death. All-too-eager to reject anything that hints at a Judeo-Christian ethic, we have become a society rushing headlong towards our own annihilation.

It is no wonder to me, then, that under the emblem of “political correctness” we have become a nation with no set of cohesive moral values and one so divided into our own little “special-interests” groups that we cannot find it in our collective will to mount any effective defense against an enemy that suffers from no such confusion in the unity of his convictions.

While the Hollyweird crowd (and their sycophantic groupies of gay men and whorish women who cheer them on) exalt in their death-dance orgy over the grave of American tradition and Judeo-Christian values, they do so under the delusion that that very morality (and Pres. Bush's standing to fight) is what our Islamic Fascist enemies abhor; never realizing that they themselves are what makes America detestable to those who seek our ultimate destruction.

The very definition of "useful idiots."

Hal,
You do not know the difference between n American hero and a 12" meatball hero.

What
I find ironic between the left and right: Charlie Wilson and Ollie North did basically the same thing, sell/give arms to countries that at the time were fighting an enemy of the US. Both have since become our enemies. One gets a movie and the other gets prosecuted.
Nope no liberal hypocracy or bias

Enemies foreign and domestic . . .
Great Article as usual.

The crowd that flock to Townhall to attack the person of American patriots, like Oliver North, for their worthy contributions to the rational processes of national issues are the one's clinging to their mirage of feel-good denial and hate of America's Christian heritage. They to are enemies of Americans. Not only is islamofascism dangerous, the roots cause of this danger is clearly stated by Oliver North. An understanding of our Christian roots in America is the easiest way to infuriate and expose America's elitist, communist, hate mongering liberals. To the left, Christianity is more dangerous than islamofascism. Not because Jesus wants us to kill or die for him, but rather turn away from sin and cling to him. Perhaps this is why America's domestic enemies are so much easier to spot than the Taliban.

Hey lefties, don't you wish you had a legitimate net forum so you would not have to come to conservative web sites to vent your envy, frustration, false accusations, and malice?


Hal Doofus Rides Again!
I do not know for sure, but I must believe that Hal Doofus thinks Col. North is a Southerner.

With his hatred of all things from the South (which started after his "run-in" with a Southern pilot), Hal Doofus must show himself to be a "fool" everytime he sees a Southerner who loves his country and the military.

Per a great idea from "Sergeant Slaughter", I have started a donation jar for the "Fisher House". And to start it off, I have placed $10.00 in it. This will pay for my comments about Hal Doofus (passed over LTC, paper pusher, and general all-round idiot) today.

Also, in honor of Hal Doofus and his dislike of all things Southern, I will donate a like amount to the United Daughters of the Confederacy scholarship fund.

Thanks Hal Doofus! LMAO!

Just a Thought
seriously - going through the thought process of a person (young or old, at the beginning or end of a military career) - who would want to take orders from Barack Obama - he is a pup - no experience on military or government matters.
And - he practically said - military expenses are not as important as some govenment give away program. Better we insure illegals than fund our troops - that is just about how he thinks.
As far as Iraq - it does not matter if there are or ever were WMDs - the tyrant was way out on a limb and would not conform to UN mandates -the US needed to get its feet into the hotbed of the Middle East where, for the most part, the art of terrorism is born and developed.
Seems like the entire world is better off with Saddam Hussein and those two darlings Uday and Qusay out of the way. If lots of terrorists are held up on a mountain top in Pakistan - so be it - not a bad place to have them in a holding pattern - our brave military will find a way to handle it all - provided they are not demoralized by having to take orders from the likes of Barack Obama.

Sorry Hal,
I meant to say that YOUR ARGUMENTS were such and such, not that you are. I should to stay away from the ad hominem, unless provoked.

thanks for the economist tip.

James B, Hal Donahue, Rattler29, et al
Welcome to our forum with your joining the ranks of Hal, and other liberals who all seem to share the same bent with your comments.

It doesn't matter what topic the writer of the article is discussing; your responses predictably consists exclusively of ad hominen attacks against any author who shows any degree of patriotism or love of country.

Why do you feel the need to attack American patriots?

No one's threatening your right to self-hatred (which is all that your railings suggest).

You'll just have to excuse us if we don't share your loathing, either of Americans; or, as in your case, ourselves.

Have not watched or read ....
I have not read or watched the major news media, except Fox, for a number of years. I do read as much of the "new" news media and reliable, fair, and balanced articles / authors (such as you) as I have time for. I think I am much better informed than too many citizens.

Please do not be deterred and keep up your good work / writing, interviews, etc.


Steve from Il, et alia
I don't mind the Hal D's of TH. If he and his ilk did not exist, we would have to invent them. Think of them as the grain of sand that causes the oyster to make a pearl. These postings are mostly for amusement, are they not?

Sargeant Slaughter
Corporal Marine reporting for duty!

I have read, understand, and will follow my orders.

I am standing by with my "Make Hal Pay" cookie jar.

Aye, Aye Sir!


Calling All WBATs !!!

Calling all WBABTs !!!!


All Wirs' 'clums' gone !!!

OH NO ! How can they do this to us ?

These 'clums' were the very best method I have seen to promote CONSERVATIVE IDEAS.

Now, it appears, they have removed our 'VENT' !


I am now starting to wonder whether TH IS THE ENEMY (or enema) ?

Are these RINOs studying 'kos' and 'move-over' for how to run a website?


Townhall ! How dare you ! This 'clumnist' was a rallying point for TRUE conservatives !

Bring him back ! I demand it !

Sure we poked fun at him, but we also pointed out in countless ways, how the CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT is being killed.


O.K., Another point.

Do you enjoy responses? Do you get advertising dollars from 'many posts per column'?

Bring our HERO BACK !


Ratas y Ratones



The Elephant in the living room
Just sneezed. For months now I have been challenging apologists for the war strategy to reconcile the emerging crisis in Kirkuk with their notions of the surge's success.

Well Kirkuk can no longer be ignored. Thanks to the crisis there the provincial elections, touted as crucial to a stable Iraq, are now off.

The elephant in the living room is sectarianism, and the surge has done absolutely nothing to halt its' deepening entrenchment in the Iraqi social and political fabric.

The Ultimate Question for Libs
"Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein?"

Larry Elder asked it today. I'd love to see Hal, Robert, and the rest of the moonbats answer it.

Thank You
Dear Col. North,

Thank you - for all you do, all your trips to spend time with our great troops, your stories and all you say when interviewed. There are many of us out here who realize how true what you wrote here is and are in this with you and our men and women serving us so bravely.

Bob Blumentritt
b_blumentritt@yahoo.com

Doc Liberty
The answer to your question is yes...

But now I have one for you, 2 part, A. How do you justify the decision to go to war in Iraq now that the original cause (wmd's) has been found to be baseless? B. Was taking out one dictator, who posed no iminent threat to america (& this has been confirmed), worth all these lives?

As I answered Doc Liberty
@ Larry Elder's article, yes, the world is obviously better off minus Saddam. Its still a legitimate question whether his life was worth thousands of brave US soldiers'lives.

Joseph @ reply #36
Absolutely correct, Joe!

The Hal D.'s and Kimberly's et al who post left-wing drivel on TH.com are the perfect foils which create the contrast so necessary to make the right-wing point.

The WORST thing Hal D. could do to us is stop posting here!

The Standard for Media Coverage
on our Troops in Iraq was set when the House and the Senate mutated into Democrats and lame ducked Bush. This is when the 2008 Presidential Campaign started and the Democrats used our Troops as ballots by delaying much needed funding.

Casualty headcounts, virtually daily, commenced in the media and the tone of reporting casualties often carried a lascivious 'look what you did Bush' melody. If the casualties were terrible the Troops might be named, even treated as heroes.

I'll say it again. Those Demobastardz used our Troops' Iraq bodycount like 2008 Election ballots. Anyone who backs Obama is still milking it for all it's worth.

Our Troops are the best. They deserve all the praise and recognition American citizens can and will give them to make up for any fake/lukewarm/insincere praise they might receive from some commenters here when they return.


Ratas y Ratones
They thought no one would notice LOL

Ollie North is a great American hero
We don't have enough patriots like Col. North who can write with the clarity and credibility as he does.

I fully support the Freedom Alliance, and have booked the 2009 Freedom Cruise (freedomcruise.com) co-sponsored by the NRA. Ollie North is again among the featured speakers, and I am always thrilled to be with this great group of conservatives for 10 days.


@Freddy in MT
Ahhh,ummm,why would the Butcher of Baghdad have 500 metric tons of yellowcake ???

Last I knew Iraq has 0 (zero) nuclear power stations supplying electricity.He did posses tech. from Libya on how to refine it.

Hmmm,now why would he want to refine something he had no purpose to have.

Hal's problem...
... is he could never live up to the bravery of a man like Col. North.

He's never faced combat or been even close to having his life face jeopardy in defense of this great nation.

His weekly attacks on Oliver North are nothing more than pure, unadulterated jealousy.

Some are men, some are mice.

Hal's squeaks tell the story of where he sits.

Doc Liberty
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 10:37 AM EST The Ultimate Question for Libs
"Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein?"

That is not the question the question is was deposing Saddam worth the tears of family and community for our and Iraqi fallen and wounded, worth the current cost of $230,000 per taxpayer that is what 12 billions a month for Iraq means. Worth allowing Al Q and Osama to grow old and prosper showing how powerless the US is even when you kill nearly 3,0000 of their residents, AND those are only a few of the questions. Heck the world would be better off without a lot of folks the question is at what price

Primus54
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:56 AM EST Hal's problem...
... His weekly attacks on Oliver North are nothing more than pure, unadulterated jealousy."

Rubbish stop with the lies about me and start with the FACT that Ollie violated his oath and undercut the constitution. I see nothing to be jealous of about a convicted felon who the ACLU helped get off on a technicality.

primus you are a silly man

Hal
How can you possibly always be wrong.
It's statistically impossible.
Is that all you've got to add to the conversation.
Here's what my mom told me growing up and maybe your mother never taught you so listen up.
If you don't have anything worthwhile to say don't say anything at all.

Hal,
TH, would be a much better place w/o you wasting its bandwidth, by posting your DNC, DU< DailyKOS, HuffPuke, etc talking points

Hal Donahue writes:
"...stop with the lies about me."
-----

That's a great one, Hal.

The lies you've written on Townhall could fill a bathtub.

If you had anything in your military history to brag about, I'm quite certain you would have posted a credible link long ago.

You and Robert are without equal in prevarication.

I will give you one bit of credit over Robert, though.

At least you don't pretend to be a McCain-supporting Republican.

Hal Doofus:
You are still a Retired, Over The Hill Passed Over, REMF, Sad Sack, Feather Merchant Desk Jockey, Garritrooper, Southern Hating Bigot, Murtha/OBama/Former Hillary As$ Kissing, Kennedy/Kerry Loving, Conservative Hating Liberal Moonbat Who Suffers From Terminal Bush Derangement Syndrome., Despiser of Talk Radio, Alleged Oil Company VP, ENRON Board of Directors Member, Citer Of His Own Articles as Proof, Historically Challenged, Economically Ignorant, Under Taxed Parasite, Very Old Little Man Who Could Walk Under a Door, Self Important Pompous Windbag, Whose Brain Is Where Original Thoughts Go To Die, Lard As$ed Pathetic Loser, Nowhere Near Moderate Democratic Party Fanatic.

Primus54
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 12:24 PM EST Subject: Hal Donahue writes:
"...stop with the lies about me."
-----

That's a great one, Hal.

The lies you've written on Townhall could fill a bathtub."

I do not lie. Ollie does but that is a different story LOL

"If you had anything in your military history to brag about, I'm quite certain you would have posted a credible link long ago."

WHY LOL I told you I had a great career with no complaints. This is not about Hal it is about the troops and the nation

"...At least you don't pretend to be a McCain-supporting Republican. "

Robert is he said that from day one

Hal-Atoesis
You wouldn't qualify to clean Ollie's jockstrap with your teeth, you are an unpatriotic, treasonous, traitorous troll.........

Hal-Atoesis
You wouldn't qualify to clean Ollie's jockstrap with your teeth, you are an unpatriotic, treasonous, traitorous troll.........

Hal-Atoesis
You wouldn't qualify to clean Ollie's jockstrap with your teeth, you are an unpatriotic, treasonous, traitorous troll.........

Hal-Atoesis
You wouldn't qualify to clean Ollie's jockstrap with your teeth, you are an unpatriotic, treasonous, traitorous troll.........

For Primus (#55)
You made a mistake in "the lies you've (hal donkeyhue) posted on Townhall could fill a bathtub".

You grossly underestimate here--hal's lies could actually easily overflow a 1,000,000-tonne supertanker.

Doc asks:
""Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein?""

Who's world? How has you life changed an iota by Saddam gone? Did you live in fear of iraq before the invasion? Were you really scared that iraq would attack America? Were you convinced that iraq was a danger to America? Iraq and the iraqis may be better off - but the world?

Please!

I shouldn't be surprised....
but given all of the ANTI military publicity, and lies over the last few years, it's still amazing that given our military is all volunteer, they can still meet the quotas. It's heartening that there are still those young men and women that will honor their country by serving. How many times do we see those that volunteer for their 2nd, 3rd even 4th tours in Iraq or Afghanistan? Most belive that this a "war" that is WINable and that there is a REAL threat to to us and our way of living.

CharletonHeston
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 12:57 PM EST ..."

You seem as confused and frightened as the name you have stolen LMAO


Hal Doofus Scribbles:
Subject: CharletonHeston
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 12:57 PM EST ..."

You seem as confused and frightened as the name you have stolen LMAO

"At last, sir, have you no shame?" YOu are worse than pathetic. You are just a worthless piece of dog sh!t.

Geminiguy
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 1:14 PM EST I shouldn't be surprised....
but given all of the ANTI military publicity, and lies over the last few years, it's still amazing that given our military is all volunteer, they can still meet the quotas."

There you go again- there has been little anti military publicity but growing disgust and hostility and negative publicity for Bush the torturer and his regime. Please do not confuse the two. Just because Bush likes to dress up in uniforms and customes the troops only provide the support they must

" It's heartening that there are still those young men and women that will honor their country by serving."

And sad that the Bush Regime treats them so shabbily

"How many times do we see those that volunteer for their 2nd, 3rd even 4th tours in Iraq or Afghanistan? Most belive that this a "war" that is WINable and that there is a REAL threat to to us and our way of living. "

We won!!! Heck you folks McCain included are unable to define "win" we won

For LJ7392 (#66)
If hal donkeyhue had even the concept of shame, he'd have ceased posting long ago--actually, he wouldn't even have started. LOL.

Well, Hal....
....this makes an additional $1.75 into my Freedom Alliance Fund jar. I can't thank you enough for providing us with the inspiration.

Great Article Colonel
But you'll have to forgive Townhall for letting braindead freaking MORONS like Hal Doofus Drunkahue get online to post their CNDS(Col North Derangement Syndrome) IDIOCY in reply to your words of wisdom.

If we didn't we'd be just like the Doofus's favortie spots, Huff & Puff and DailyKook, that will tolerate NO differing opinions.

Punkahue
its my understanding that every time you post something "stupid", which is every single post you make, some folks are donating funds to something worth while.
I'm sending my donations to the "drunkards of america foundation". I here they may be able to help you!
Burn your uniforms, traitor!

plague
A plague is enveloping our land, it is the plague of self-indulgence, narcissism and piety of one's self.
It is a plague of division and racism. This plague is brought to us by a political party that has forgetten it's past - The extreme liberal left.

Punkahue
whats the matter? Cat get lost when you sat down?

Honoring Our Troops
The quandry for Conservative Politicians. Our troops are a great symbol of what is best for America and in that respect. Conservtaives are pro strong national defense and that includes respect for the military services and after vietnam many in military families turned away from the Democratic Party in part because of the treatment of returning vets.

But Conservatives are also pro big business, pro tax and anti-government spending (services.) So Republicans in office don't do a lot for vets or the VA. When have to choose between what is best for the troops or best for Government Contractors,Banks, or Wall street they treat soldiers as the underclass. That is why the Bush administration opposed the New GI bill until it was claer that they would lose anywhay and then they reluctantlu capitualted. McCain of course, followed Bush's lead ever afraid of losing the Conservative base by deviating form the President. This has not gone unnoticed by many military families who are questioning their loyalty to the Republican Party.

You can attack this post, but it is a serious issue for the future of the Republican Party and the Conservative Movement. Honoring the troops can't just be about putting a magnetic ribbon on you SUV. You have to deliver for these people and their families.

Punkahue
we were discussing movies earlier and mine was "Saving Private Ryan"

What is yours, "Saving Ryans Privates"?

Hal
If the troops love Obama so much, why are Democrats resisting attempts to make it easier for them to vote?

SSGT2 writes:
Subject: Punkahue
we were discussing movies earlier and mine was "Saving Private Ryan"

What is yours, "Saving Ryans Privates"?

I'd say, "No Time For Segeants," except Will Stockdale was about 1000000000000000000000 IQ and 1000000000000000000000 common sense points ahead of the Doofus.

JMO51
how bout a check to a dying Marines family of 7,500 bucks from our Post. That happens all over the country on a daily basis. Your off your rocker

HalD...sad butt true
Our big difference is that my cup is half full, yours is ALWAYS empty. You and your libutt buddies are invested so deeeepppppp into making Bush (BDS) look bad, that you are willing to let your country look bad, defeated and humiliated. It's a shame that something so drastic must have happened to you, that you feel this way! Is it some form of PTSD???? Please tell me you that you aren't that sadly pathetic that you would sell out our country just to despise the CIC that you have differences of opinions with?!?!

Geminiguy
your wasting finger power posting to that traitor, Punkahue. It does'nt get any more pathetic than him!

Once again
Is anybody here willing to discuss how the crisis in Kirkuk fits into the narrative of the surge's success?


bryce
your a broken record.


And yet SSGT2
Neither you nor any of the other posters here will man-up and discuss Kirkuk, which severely undermines the claims of the surge's success.

I will remind you that Petraeus himself has repeatedly stated that without the commiserate political and sectarian resolution, security gains are for naught.


bryce writes:
Subject: And yet SSGT2
Neither you nor any of the other posters here will man-up and discuss Kirkuk, which severely undermines the claims of the surge's success.

I will remind you that Petraeus himself has repeatedly stated that without the commiserate political and sectarian resolution, security gains are for naught.

Before you use big words like commiserate, you might want to look up the meaning in a dictionary. The sentence as written makes absolutely no sense, but then gain you rarely do.

JMO51
You nailed it. SSGT2 thinks a check for 7,500 makes the abuse "OK" obviously he has not spent much time with families of the dead and our wounded.

Geminiguy
"Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 2:39 PM EST Subject: HalD...sad butt true
Our big difference is that my cup is half full, yours is ALWAYS empty. "

Not true at all we are making lots of progress and this election will show it.

"You and your libutt buddies are invested so deeeepppppp into making Bush (BDS) look bad, that you are willing to let your country look bad, defeated and humiliated. "

Bush the torturer simply does not matter any long. The Hague will deal with him later. The nation is no longer the leadrer of the free world and is stripped of most of her allies Bush has damaged the country and made it look bad with NO help from anyone


Hal the bullsh!tter
does not matter any more. He is gust a worthless piece of dogsh!t.

Lumberjack
Commiserate meaning equal to or concurrent with is totally correct.

But as usual, no response to the central issue of Kirkuk.

Typical.

Fighting our Fight......................
Media and civilians have the great advantage of chosing which fight is their fight.
However, as a serviceman, every fight that you get into for them is your fight. Right, Wrong or indifferent to it, it is your fight and you fight it as if you own it piece by piece. You make it your to protect those at home you cannot because of age, gender or physical ablity.
You care not what colour, religion or party they are, they are American's and you have been told they need your help defending our principals, our shores and homes.
We are the Veterans of the past, today and future yet to come, we are America's military, not its Congress or POTUS or NEWS MEDIA LIBERALS.

kirkuk
If there was a major problem in kirkuk it would be all over the news.

Halduhhhhhhh
Not true at all we are making lots of progress and this election will show it.

You & your libuttbuddies seem to forget this country is bigger than your sad little world. There's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many of the "silent majority" (rmember the ones that beat gore&kerry)out there in middle America. Also, sad to say, the one's that just ain't ready for a "brother"(socialist one @ that) to settle into a Black House in DC. It just won't happen this time. Time for you to wallow in your beer mug @ the VFW cause it's all over with butt the shout'n!

JMO51 You're out of your mind
JMO51 Location: NY Reply # 74
Date: Jul 24, 2008 - 2:07 PM EST

Honoring Our Troops
"So Republicans in office don't do a lot for vets or the VA. When have to choose between what is best for the troops or best for Government Contractors,Banks, or Wall street they treat soldiers as the underclass. That is why the Bush administration opposed the New GI bill until it was claer that they would lose anyway and then they reluctantly capitulated."

The ONLY reason why Bush opposed the "New GI Bill" is because the Democrats kept loading it with EXPENSIVE Pork Projects and Surrender deadlines for the war in Iraq and the GWOT.

Nice try but you don't even get a consolation prize for that stupid statement.

Thank You and God Bless!
I thank God everyday for our men and women in the military. No country is perfect, just as no man is, but this country has fought for freedom, and have been AGAINST tyranny and opression. They do it voluntarily, and I can get angry over petty things only because my mind isn't constantly on alert, like their minds must be. I can sit at my desk is comfort and daydream about running my own business someday because I feel safe from harm. I can be proud of my country because I know that our military are made up of great men and women that share my values. Thank you, and I pray that democracy spreads throughout the Middle East, once the Iraqi's and the surrounding countries get a taste of how sweet it is!

Hal
You never answered my question. If Obama is so popular with the troops, why are Democrats stalling legislation that will enable more of our troops to vote?

SSGT
Our troops deserve more than a death check of $7,000.00. They deserve a heroes funeral covered by the media, not covered up by an administration that wants to make a war look painless. They need to know that while they are away defending this country some credit card company is not going to chase down their family with excessive fees and late charges. They need to know that if they get wounded they will get the best medical care possible without a hastle or having to prove they are deserving.

They need to know that they will get the same kind of benefits that a greatful nation provided to its greatest generation. The thing that Jim Webb proposed with the support of over sixty co-sponsors but was opposed by Bush and McCain. They need to know that a nation will not abuse them with stop loss or time at home that is less than the time in theater.

The problem is that all of these things cost money and therefore are incompatable with giving a tax cut during a time of war. Or these things run contrary to corporate interests or the rabid antientitlement views of some conservatives even if those entitlements are for the benefit of our brave and deserving soldiers and their families.

This in my opinion is how you really honor our troops. Tell me SSGT which one of things here do you think our troops don't deserve or should not get.?

That is why many in the military are rethinking their party affiliation. My sense is that the Republicans still have a mojority, but if the trend continues we could see a real shift over time.


Col. North
Merle was right about the plague of crazed left wing nutbars and moonbats.
Col. North is eloquent and right.
Yeah he had a bad moment in the 80's, trying to do something noble.
But we need to hear this man on these subjects.
HE knows about Marines. when he says "Best I've ever seen" I believe that
The other subject is the intractability of our enemies. He knows about that too.

Thank you Col. North.

Marines Dad
GI bill- That is a lie. Bush opposed it because it was expensive and it was not loaded with a lot of pork projects in fact it was quite a pure bill with bipartisan support including Republican Senator John Warner a real patriot. Sadly Lindsey Graham and John McCain were with the President until it looked like it was gonna pass anyway and then they flipped. When John McCain was called on this his answer on the specifics was unintelligible and then he went into a long winded speech about he traditionally he had great support and favorable ratings from Vet groups. But that was the old McCain. Also where were all the establishment conservatives on this one? All looking at their shoes. No mention in Townhall. Not their finest hour.

Republican Supports of the GI Bill
RFepublican Patriots who supported the troops.

Wicker MS, Shelby AL, Stevens AK, Stevens AK, Thune SD, Martinez, FL, Warner VA, Smith OR, Murkowski AK, Hutchinson TX, Isakson GA, Hagel NE, Coleman MN. Dond MO, Chambliss GA

Republicans Who did not support the troops.

Alexander TN, Allard CO, Barrasso WY
Bennett UT, Brownback KS, Bunning KY, Burr NC
Cochran MS, Corker TN, Cornyn TX DeMint SC
Ensign NV, Enzi WY Graham SC Grassley IA Gregg -NH, Hatch UT, Kyl AZ, Lugar IN, McConnell KY
Sessions AL, Voinovich OH

Phoney Patriots and Corporate Hacks

Republicans who were AWOL

John McCain AZ - Political Prostitute
Coburn OK

Just so you know who really stood with the troops and who did not. By the way all the Dems including Obama voted yes. Kennedy was absent for illiness. These are the facts.

Geminiguy ...Reply # 64
Ah; I must ask this, What makes you think they can meet it? They have no military left now to send!

Geminiguy
Point is we are talking about Current Military and I hope X-Military and not want a bee Military I think. If I am wrong then Gee I guess I’m sorry.
It takes a major disaster for Americans to become Citizens and Join the Military or they join for the college education or last of all because they could not find a job. It mostly takes something like Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or maybe even the upcoming fight with the Democrats for real Americans to stand up and fight for their Freedom. I joined up and I’m a Vietnam Vet and in the U.S. that is the worst Vet to be. Not like the current vets fighting the “WAR” on terrier. No wants to join to get killed thousands of miles from home however some of us do and did because we believed in our country then. Today however; I’m not so sure I would do that with the current administration that is running the show. I would not on the other hand disrespect a brother Vet as we earned the respect! Have You?

JMO51 : Reply # 74
What in the heck are you talking about????? “Many in military families turned away from the Democratic Party in part because of the treatment of returning vets.” Who the heck gave you this idea??? It was the American People themselves spitting on us and not giving us a job and calling us “baby killers” not the Democratic party. I do think the current people in office for the Democratic Party should be voted out of office however that is an entirely different story then the crap you posted…

A Vietnam Vet!

Hop
very well put.

JMO51
spits:
"That is why many in the military are rethinking their party affiliation. My sense is that the Republicans still have a mojority, but if the trend continues we could see a real shift over time."

Yeah, just ask Murtha and Dingy Harry how they support the troops! I don't know how you scumbags sleep at night!
Add a couple billion to another bill you pukefaced pigs!



Fbrosius...answers
It was reported in the news that all of the services have met or exceeded their recent quotas. I maybe wrong, however IF the caca sould hit the fan, we could pull people out of places like Korea, Germany, and several other "overseas" bases. For all intents and purposes, this not a "full scale" was which would require such actions. The smaller scale fighting that is going on now is being handled somewhat OK. However, with the escalation and resurgence of the Taliban and Al Queda, we will almost need to expand, hopefully with larger NATO forces.

Believe it or not, there are still real Americans out there that wnat to serve, or give back to their country by serving. Of course there are those that need help for college, help to start new families etc. Frankly, I don't find it so surprising that people still wnat to serve. What about all the "lifers", mid rank cadre? There still seems enough to supply that need. What about all the officers that is needed for command & control, still enough of thme it seems. The Navy is probably the most difficult service to keep indivduals in. Ships, submarines out to sea for months or longer. Other services have long deployments as well, but not in those numbers. I know of and have talked to those that have served 2-3 tours in Iraq. What can I say? They love their jobs. They get to do what their trained for, in most cases.
And YES, I am a vet. I didn't go to Nam, but was in at the time. I'm retired NavyHospitalCorpsman, 24yrs. I've seen and done many things that most people will never see or do in 2 life times. BTY, thank you for your service and you and all of my brother Nam vets didn't deserve the crap you got when you returned.

SSGT2
Calm down and take a deep breath. How did we get from Republicans letting down our troops to Murtha's pork. Typical reactions from a cornered right winger. Present them with clear evidence of betrayal and what do they do, change the subject. Lets get back to the GI bill and the very specific question that I asked you. Do think our troops are entitled to the services provided in the New GI bill and who were the patriots and who were to use your own vile term the pukefaced pigs.

Simple question: Yea for the GI bill, Nea for the GI Bill - You take a position.


Fbrosius
Because I think we all are responsible for the behaviors of our neighbors I want to offer you an apology. Anyone who serves this country in a time of war whether those people were drafted or volunteered, whether it was a just war or not should be honored and respected and cared for upon their return.

You and all of our vets deserved better. My opinion was that many military families turned away from the democratic party after Vietnam. I think that is changing because many Republicans have talked the talk but don't walk the walk.


Before I was against it
Remember Kerry getting labasted by Conservatives for voting against funding for the War. But on the New Gi Bill McCain was against it before he was for it, but still didn't make it enough of a priority to show up for a vote.

How come the MSM that conservatives claim is so biased have not sticked this to McCain. We know why Fox never mentioned it. Does anyone recall reading about it in townhall?

Great Article Ollie
You nailed it Ollie. We all know that the Muslims hate us. Even here in the USA where they enjoy more freedoms and rights than in any of their Mother Countries, yet they use our system everyday right here in America against us. They protest that Americans, whose religion for the most part is Christian, use Jesus's name in closing prayers. Sandra Day O'Connor read a ruling for the majority today, saying that a city councilman in Virginis could Not Close a Prayer with the phrase, "in Jesus's Name, Amen." The Islamic Enemy and The so-Called Christian Ministries that teach a Marxist Philosophy of Liberation Theology, such as Obama's Church in Chicago, all teach the same thing: "Hate America, the Great Satan run by White People." It is time that Real Americans stand up and be counted and Say Damned the Courts. They may try and Rule Out God in our country, Now Let Them Enforce. Every Single Christian Councilman or woman, Mayor, Governor, Legislator and everybody else Ought To Make It A Point of Professing Their Beliefs every Opportunity they get, just to say, To Hell With Courts and A Congress that tries To Use My Freedoms and Rights Against Us. It is time for a Strong Protest In This Country by the Up TO Now, Silent Majority. If we remain Complacent and Cowardly much longer, we will never get the Opportunity. The Time Is Now To Stand Up, Speak Up and say Hell Not to Muslims and Marxists in this country whether they are elected or not. Enough is Enough.

Greyhawk
Define real Americans

Jews ( Yes No)
Blacks

Greyhawk
Define real Americans

Jews ( Yes No)
Blacks

Greyhawk
Define real Americans

Jews ( Yes No)
Blacks

Define real Americans
Yes or No

Jews
Buddists
Blacks
Hispamics
Asians
Naturalized Citizens
Residents of Big Cities
Catholics
Democrats
Liberals

Take The Country Back
The MSM that Ollie talks about is the enemy of this Country, period. Look at the garbage they have produced for TV over the past 30 years or so. Almost every program pokes fun at traditional standards that used to be considered decent. The New Programs are nothing more than scripted propaganda and labeled as news. They seldom, if ever, report on anything that would truly help the Average American understand anything about local, state, federal or international politics and affairs. They use Sound Bytes to get their Particular Agenda and Message heard. The give Opinion Poll data that means absolutely nothing, as the Polls are Worded and Run By the Same Folks Reporting On Them. You can word an Opinion Poll Question to Solicit the Outcome You Want and are Promoting, then they Report It Out To The Public, and the general Public is totally ignorant in most cases about what is really going on, but will Go around saying, My Opinion On this Or That is exactly What The Poll said. The Media know this and that is how they have brainwashed people to get them to follow their script and agenda. They are out there Now, while Obama is Traveling About Pretending That He is Already President, and Reporting Back is if he is The Messiah. Wake Up Americans, This Puppet Obama, Is A Media and DNC invention, but is nothing more than An Empty Suit and Puppet, and only Does And Says What His Handlers Put Up On a Teleprompter. He is ignorant, Arrogant, and this is a Dangerous Combination. Ask Yourself, Who Are His Puppetteers??? The answer would probably scare you back to Reality.

Greyhawk
Did you know that both conservative leaning and liberal leaning news organizations do polling and the results are often surpisingly alike.

Conservatives often cite opionion polls about Gay marrage, abortion, etc.


JMO 51 in NY
Real Americans are those of us out here who have decent values, work for a living, pay taxes, and are not afraid to speak what they believe and do not care one damned bit about being politically correct. Political correctness has cowed people down so that most people are afraid to say anything that matters anymore. Real Americans come in all colors, genders, races, socio-economic levels. This is not about race or anything else except decency and courage as a nation. We have stood idly by and had our country put at great risk by the very government that is supposed to see to national security, a decent infrastructure, safe borders and ports. To provide for a Strong, Efficient, Well-Equipped, and well-manned military for national defense as well as to fight in foreign wars if called upon to do so. Real Americans have been silent too long,and allowed a Vocal Anti-American Voice be heard and we have had our own rights and freedoms trampled on. Million of illegal invaders are in our country and can go out and say Damn To America and Burn our Flags, and our own police protect them, instead of being allowed to Arrest them for the Criminal Acts they are committing. I don't care if the illegals come from Mexico, Haiti, Lebanon, South America, Russia, England, Germany, Canada, or whereever. Illegal is still Illegal. If you don't believe it, as A Regular American, go out and Break a Law and see how fast you get policed. And, for something as trivial as Smoking a Cigarette without Permission and In A Place The Socialists in Our Government Have Told Us We Could Smoke it. So, JOMO 51, don't come out with some of your Race Hustling nonsense for an argument. This is also a tired old trick that most Americans are sick of.

Sunday , July 20, 2008
Hey check this out.... Congress at work !!!!


Lawmakers Could Consider Gas Tax Hike, After Gas Tax Holiday Fails
Sunday , July 20, 2008

with a prod from the construction industry — that having $9 billion less to spend on highways could create a pre-election specter of thousands of lost jobs.

JOMO 51 in Ny
Get a grip and get a life. You are not going to sway anybody on this site. Go Read the NYT or put on CNN, ABC, CBS, PBS and get your daily dose of brainwashing that keeps you dependent of somebody else to think for you. The Scoialists that run your city have got you folks wrapped up. How much do you pay in taxes to buy something as simple as a pack of cigarettes. How much in taxes do you pay for gasoline? I heard that those Brilliant Socialists Who Run Your City have just announced that to get you folks to conserve energy, they are about to raise all your Utility Needs by 23 to 50 percent. They do not trust you guys to make your own minds up about how much electricity or gas to use. Well, I happen to still live in a state that still allows us to make a few decisions for ourselves, although, Socialists are infiltrating at a fast pace as the number of people becoming dependent on welfare is rising. Our state Food Stamp folks announced last winter that they had checked the number of people eligible for food stamps, and found that only 67 percent who qualified were actually signed up. So, what did they do, they went out and tried to recruit the other 33 percent. Most of those 33 percent said, thanks, but no thanks, I do not want the government to control any part of my life. The foodf stamp workers do not care if you eat or not. They care about How Many Victims They Have To Determine How Big Their Budget is and How Much Power Their Little Socialist Empire has. Government Agencies To End Poverty have no Such Aim. If they Ended Government Dependency, the Would Lose Their Agency and Empire. Wake Up JOMO, Get Out Of New York and try and find a free state to live in.

Geminiguy…
Thanks telling us you are in fact a brother in arms. It is good to know who we all are when we can. Thanks for your time and service. Me? I was in the U.S.A.F. Air Fright / Air Cargo and as you may or may not know that is how the bodies were moved for the most part from Vietnam to Conus. So I know I saw the best and worst of American soldiers had to offer. I was also helped set up the MACE, but I ended up at 21st AF McGuire AFB PMC. I saw even more there; you do not want to know.. I am proud of all I did and would do it all over again however; Not for this current Administration I would never lift a finger for them.

JMO51
Thank You much for the kind words....

Greyhawk
Just wanted to be sure your real american included all races and economic classes. Because that is often used as code for white and christian.

By Alabama has some of Prettiest girl in the country in my humble opinion. Must be the water.

Fbrosius
You are welcome and thank you again for you service to our country.

Kirkuk not a major problem Jax?
The provincial election has just been scuttled due to Kirkuk.

The Constitution has yet to leave committee...3 years down the line...due in large part to Kirkuk.

The Kurds, the only island of stability in Iraq, are threatening violence if Article 140 is not implimented.

The Turkemans and Arabs are threatening violence if Article 140 is implimented.

Turkey has threatened violence if the Kurds attack the Turkemans, raising the possibility of the Iraq conflict spreading to the broader region.

In short, anyone who does not recognize the situtation in Kirkuk for the emerging crisis it is, is basically ignorant about what's going on in Iraq.

Turkish airstrikes are now commonplace, as is shelling from Iran in the North.

JMO51 in Ny
Yeah, it's the clean air and water, but as everyplace else, it gets worse the more so-called progress we make. Still does not make sense to me that you cut down a 2000 acre stand of 200 year old forest, and put in Asphalt, concrete, Steel and Buildings and call it Progress, while tearing down some more old buildings and planting shrubbery and grass and calling it a fair tradeoff. Oh well, that's progress, but we do still have some beautiful places to go and find solitude. I am pretty happy to drive to work about 12 miles away and return home each evening to my little 4 room frame house nestled in the woods surrounded by oak trees that are at least 7o years old and have a beautiful lake 6 miles away where I can take my boat and ride, ski, or fish just for fun. Anyway, JMO51, do not mean to sound uncaring or anything like that. It is because that I care that I am so passionate in my beliefs and concern for the future our our country. I too, am a vet with a tour in the USAF and USN and also about 7 years with the Air National Guard. I quit it all in 1985, as I was too busy with raising a couple of teen boys and working as a teacher and counselor of students in special education who were classified as being Bad Boys and Girls with emotional and or behavioral problems. Now working as an addictions therapist dealing to a great extent with Veterans with addiction and other mental health issues. Anyway, life is good for now. I just want my grandchildren to still be able to live in a free society and enjoy some of the same things I have been grateful to have enjoyed in this great country.

Forgot to mention
Kirkuk is at the heart of the failure to pass a hydrocarbon bill as well.

islam
great article col. if a congressman or senator don't know the facts about fanaticalpoliticalreligious islamists th cannot serve. the fbi and homeland security i getting training from cair, where are the moderate american muslims? why won't they speak up? are they afraid? if there that many sympathetic mualim in this country that are intimidating the
so called moderate muslims...they have to go y, by. now! No governmen can tell it's government agencies not to use certain words describing the islamists. I think the fairness doctrine should be about educating the american public and law enforcemen about these terrorist,. If t through public media. If the aclu wants to defend these people, maybe they should go do a tour in then middle east defending womens rights
and if they can come back in a year with their head on their shoulders, they can defend these low lives. steve

Ollie North is the Perfect Arrow
Every time I read an Ollie North column (out loud, mind you), I can confidently say that he never misses. As a US Navy veteran of Desert Shield, I am proud to have served our country with the likes of men like Oliver North. Thank you sir!

-j.p.
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