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Monday, May 28, 2007
Nicole  Gelinas :: Townhall.com Columnist
HillaryCare for Tots
by Nicole Gelinas
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Last week, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton unveiled one of the first big domestic proposals of the 2008 presidential campaign: a $10 billion plan for federally funded “universal pre-kindergarten.” The proposal likely pleases the national teachers’ unions, eager to capture the massive public money becoming available to serve the under-five set. Just as bad, the plan assumes that government money can improve people’s lives—to a much greater degree than history has shown.

Under Clinton’s program, the federal government would match individual states’ funding for voluntary pre-K for four-year-olds, with a $10 billion annual cap on federal dollars by the end of the first five years. To be eligible for the matching funds, states would have to hire teachers with bachelor’s degrees that include training in early-childhood development, maintain low student-teacher ratios, and use some standard curricula.

The plan resembles the Great Society’s Medicaid program, enacted four decades ago as a federal-state partnership to provide health care for the poor. Just as in Medicaid, individual states would decide how to structure early-childhood programs within those few basic rules, and would be responsible for a big part of the bill. Unlike with Medicaid, states could choose not to participate, but it would be awfully hard for them to refuse. Politically, what governor can oppose more education for cute kids, especially when a state’s governor and legislature know that they’ll get “credit” for every dollar of such voter-pleasing spending, while having to come up with only 50 cents of it themselves?

Even with the matching funds, though, the federal requirements likely will prove expensive for the states. For one thing, mandating low student-teacher ratios means hiring more teachers. And in places like New York, New Jersey, and California, the union-friendly states that would embrace the program early on, the proposal will almost surely create a huge new demand for expensive teachers from the ranks of the politically powerful unions.

To be sure, Clinton’s plan doesn’t require states to hire unionized teachers. The nation’s fledgling charter schools, which are usually non-union, could add pre-kindergarten classes to their existing elementary schools with the federal matching funds. But innovative, independent charter schools are still a tiny fraction of public education. Unless they want to build freestanding schools for four-year-olds, most states will send the vast majority of their pre-K classes to unionized elementary schools, adding hundreds of thousands of highly paid union jobs to state budgets.

And don’t think that the teachers’ unions want to stop at four-year-olds. In New York earlier this month, after heavy lobbying by the local United Federation of Teachers, Governor Eliot Spitzer signed an executive order that will allow 50,000 day-care workers who care for toddlers in their own homes to unionize and negotiate for higher pay and benefits.

It’s a slippery slope from encouraging bachelor’s degrees and federally approved curricula to teach four-year-olds to requiring bachelor’s degrees and federally approved curricula to watch two-year-olds. And Clinton has already started down it: her proposal notes ambitiously that “states [could] serve younger children [with federal money] once they have provided pre-K to all four year olds who need it.”

Supporters of universal pre-K and other early-childhood programs often point to the growing evidence that young children develop cognitive skills well before school age. Indeed, study after study has shown that by the time they get to kindergarten, kids from families that don’t provide education at home can’t catch up with peers whose parents, say, read a book to them every day from infancy.

One of the most comprehensive studies done to date, by Georgia State University, found that a sample of below-average pre-schoolers enrolled in Georgia’s universal pre-K program made up their deficits and were average or above average on most measurements by the end of kindergarten two years later. But the racial gap between white and black students actually became more pronounced after pre-K and kindergarten. Whether a student “lived with both parents continuously since birth” made a huge difference in achievement.

It’s only logical that little kids with such barren educational backgrounds that they can’t even do kindergarten work—mostly just coloring, identifying letters and shapes, and exhibiting a healthy vocabulary—will swiftly gain at least basic cognitive and social skills once they finally get the chance to soak them up. It doesn’t follow, however, that a year of pre-school can make up for the next 12 years of poor education and poor family support. A few longer-term studies exist, but they’re often too small to be useful, or suffer from methodological problems.

Worse, for the government to follow the science of cognitive development to its logical conclusion, the feds would need to mandate that local schools force single, poor mothers to enroll their kids at birth in government-funded, full-day education programs, staffed by highly trained professionals. This would ensure that the kids are away from their dysfunctional families and neighborhoods and in a comparatively decent learning environment for as much time as possible.

Thankfully, this idea still sounds ridiculous to most people—though maybe less so every year. And there’s no guarantee that it would work anyway, if the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on anti-poverty programs over the past 40 years are any indication.

Clinton’s plan is an equally absurd half-measure, assuming, as it does, that even more billions in state and federal taxpayer money—much of it funneled through teachers’ unions into schools that already do a crummy job of educating disadvantaged kids ages five through 18—can bridge immense familial and cultural chasms if they just start at age four instead.

This article originally appeared in The City Journal.

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Hitlery needs to stop
with her freakin "Universal Socialist Programs" and just go away!

Hillary raise it to $100B or loose.
Billary, you two are suppose to be the most brilliant politicians of all time. Well obviously you are nothing but stupid country bumpkins.

Hillary, if you have learned anything in the past 8 years you should have learned how Repubs whipped Dems in the elections. Here is a primer. Gore in ’00 should have been a simple cake walk to the presidency. Nobody cared about his obnoxious demeanor, global warming baloney, what they cared about is how much they would get paid for their valuable precious vote. Bush outbid him by 20% on every program Gore offered. It got so embarrassing that even Gore was arguing that giver-ment (sic) can’t support the Bush bids. Well Bush won the auction by providing a better value to the voters. Isn’t that what capitalism is all about, getting the best value for your dollar and time.

Hillary for a lousy $10B, we don’t need you, we can just go out on the street and hold up people at gun point and take in more money for less than it takes to hire you to do it. The reason we hire you is so that you can get into all those assets that we can’t get quickly at gun point on a street corner. $10B is less than the change in all the pockets on any given day in AmeriKa. We hire you to get the big bucks that are hidden in real estate, securities, bank accounts that we can't get at gun point on the street corner. If you can’t do it, then we’ll hire Repubs like Bush that know how to do it.

Now Hillary, Bush put in the $72B senior drug entitlements before the ’04 election to trump his out-Gored Title 1 and No Child Left Behind bonanza of ’00 and won again. Do you honestly think that 4 years later with inflation that $10B is anything more than an insult to voters?

Let me give you some advice, you’d better raise your bid to no less than $100B, because the Repub will be bidding no less than $120B for my vote.

It's called "Brave New World"
If you still read books, read that one.

By the way, I'm in favour of removing babies from those whose only Daddy is Uncle Sam and who have neither intention nor ability to look after them. If we were to bring back orphanages and no-strings-attached adoptions, we would not need billion dollar remediation programs for the kids they have damaged. For those who are teachable, bring back the Visiting Nurse Program to teach them, and the Settlement House where the kids can go after school to learn to read aloud, cook, mend their clothes, practice decent table manners and associate with people who speak stanard English. All of these things can be done privately. This is good work for churches, especially for those Mommies of Desperate Sincerity (of both genders) whose idea of Christianity is marching in the streets carrying signs that demand the government feed Jesus' sheep.

But Hillary's program is called Brave New World and you can read it on line. Look it up.

Deja vu all over again
With apologies to Mr. Berra, it sounds like Hil-Billy has regurgitated a reincarnation of another hugely successful Great Society program(i.e. if you measure success as effectiveness at relieving taxpayers of their cash) known as Head Start.

Hilly at it again
When Hillary is "thinking"; we need to be running.

No way
in hades would I let that woman anywhere near a young child. She is one sick puppy and needs to just go away. And to think, she's my senator. God help us all.

Queen Hilly Lies!
Queen Hilly will tell ever possible lie to get elected. Once elected she will railroad this country as we know it into the ground. If you want to live in a third world country with a Dictator for President, then vote for Queen Hilly. As for me, my bumper sticker reads, "Anone but Hillary"

Hillaryism
Clinton has merely stuck to a socialist agenda for her whole political career, which isn't over yet.

Many American citizens want to reject free-market capitalism and hand over their lives to the state. Some of these citizens believe the state can offer personal financial security; other feel that if the "corporations" are controlled by "the people", the people will get huge pay raises.

Pols like Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi want the power (money is merely icing on the cake).

Regardless of the motivation for American socialism, Americans need to look at Europe which is just now rejecting socialist government policies.

What the h___
Ever made people think that 4 year olds need to be in school? This is called babysitting and people just want it so they can do there own thing without being emcumbered by their children. People need to quit having kids if they are just going to dump them on the state.

I remember
how horrorified we were in the early 60's to learn that Russian children were raised by the state. Well Folks, here it is. and here is how it happened in Russia. We are doomed.

Socialist Hillary
I for one, do not advocate turning over my kids, grandkids, or any other relative to the care of the state. Hillary is a fool if she thinks that the state can run a family better than the FAMILY, but she lives in a dream world of Big Government Nanny is better for the masses. Elect her and give up your family folks. Might as well move to Russia.

"Madame President"
It sounds better and better every day.

What a WONDERFUL President this terrific, smart, elegant, brave woman will be!!!!!

Billery's B/S
Wasn't Hitler who wanted to indoctrinate very young children. So as to train them to HIS twisted way of thinking.
Savew the children keep them away from BILLERY'S B/S

Eric Flagstad
I can only hope what you say is sardonic and
tongue-in-cheek!!
If not--then you are in deep doo-doo if what you say is what you think.
This clinton broad is only interested in what money she can come up with and the idiots in new york just go along with her stupidity.
And to think that I formerly judged New Yorkers to be somewhat sane---HA!!! They and Massachusetts could just be dumped into the ocean and the country would never miss their unabridged idiocy with the people they elect...
Scary that I thought I knew the people from those states that I am acquainted with.... ya just never know!!! God help us !!!!

A bargain
What a bargain. A mere $10 Billion sounds positively cheap compared to the $2.3 Trillion Amnesty will cost us. Of course this all can easily be afforded, just get rid of the tax cuts and revert the inheritance tax back to pre- Bush. This in turn will force tens of thousands of small businesses to close and free the hundreds of thousands of people needed to teach in the schools plus the 50,000 day-care workers who care for toddlers in their own homes.

A win win situation if I ever heard of one!

Get it over with
Why don't we just hand our children to the state once they're born and be done? We'd still get visitation rights a few times a year, right?

Yes, that was sarcasm.

Cradle-to-grave
Just wait until all those parents who've farmed out their kids to anybody who'll take them hit old age, only to find that their kids are following their example and doing the same thing to THEM.

Any day now, we're going to start hearing the first strains of a mounting chorus demanding that the government provide "free" long-term care. Our politicians, in their never-ending hustle for votes, will oblige.

Cradle-to-grave government "protection", long envisioned by the socialists, will finally be in place.

The only thing that will remain is to find a living soul left to pay for it.

Oh my!!!
I agree this is trying to start teaching our children at a younger age, that parents are stupid, the government knows everything. To make the parents bystanders while the government raises our children.

When kindergarten first started, I couldn't believe that parents would want their children in someone elses hands for that many hours a day. Then it became law, that children must go to kindergarten. This bill Ms. Hitllary wants, would be made law too. Where would it all end? As has been suggested, we turn over our little ones at birth?

Lynne: yes, of course it is.
And I'm sure those of us who oppose them will receive "free" psychiatric care, too.

Gingrich
Google "Gingrich orphanage" for a series of hits resulting from Newt Gingrich's suggestion in t he 1990s that certain American children should be removed from their families and placed in orphanages. So I see kind of a mixed message here. Conservatives posting to this thread seem not to want children to be educated in state-run schools lest the kids be "indoctrinated". Meanwhile Gingrich remains a respected elder statesman of the conservative movement, and he wants kids placed in orphanages. Don't you suppose a certain amount of "indoctrination" would go on there? And, BTW, I have read about after-school programs funded by the White House Office of Faith (sorry, I may not have that name exactly right) and they definitely are "indoctrinating" for Christianity. So is it all indoctrination you folks are against, or is it OK to indoctrinate children in a conservative or Christian belief system?

This is par for the socialist agenda
Is anyone surprised? Hillary has had this in mind and wrote of it in her college thesis. But, this is just the beginning of her "plan." She intends to enlarge it where older children will attend a state-run dormitory/school and stay there through the week. That way, interference from parents (good or bad) can be minimized, children will be fed properly, they will be taught a government produced curriculum, and will have a good education, guaranteed by said government. Children would be "allowed" to visit their parents on weekends, if they chose. In this way, parents would be free of the responsibilities of caring for their children on a daily basis and could get on with their own lives and make more money. What comes back into society as a result of all this tinkering with our children? Remember the Leggoes incident in the state of Washington? Children who are little more than automatons, all think alike, and any creativity or individuality is to be squashed like a bug. This is the way to bring down our country - just take over the children. Every dictatorship starts out with the indoctrination of the children. God help us all!

Hitlery
Universal and Hillary.... what are we doing America????

lilly
Can you give some context to Gingrich's proposal? What "certain American children" was he referring to?

Parent CAN teach their children
One word for this proposal and others like it:
Nanny
Well, maybe two:
Socialism
Well,....Nah, you get it.

So where do we stand
on the vouchers issue? Is there any chance of that happening? I have not been able to keep up with this one...

This is what the Activist Left,
like Shrillary and Billary, have been planning all along: to control the hearts and minds of the American children, from a very tender age, and indoctrinate them in Marxism.

Mizz Clinton expects us to just lie down and let them take over in this way, because they have spent the last 40 years convincing American women that the worst thing they could do is stay home and raise their own children. So much better to go to an office, listen to canned music and spend the day filing and typing.

How fulfilling!!! So much more significant than raising the next generation!

While the Left has succeeded in convincing YOU that bringing up your own children is drudgery, they have been laying the groundwork to do that job themselves.

The Shrillster is now ready to launch the latest assault on traditional values, and to do it without firing a shot.

If the people of the United States don't stand against this, we will regret it the rest of our lives!

Denny- incidently the school you
mentioned is being run in exactly the way you just described.

But it is not run by the Shrillster.

The person who has set up a leadership school, where the young ladies are not permitted to have contact with their families most of the time, is run by none other than Oprah Winfrey.

While people were lauding her for setting up this school, she was laying plans to create brainwashed socialist automotons, like the ones you described in your post.

lilly,
Um, It could be just me but I fail to see a parallel between Newt Gingrich offering a suggestion 15 or so years ago and Hillbilly's plan( Remember, this is a woman who compares the family unit to slavery!) as she runs for POTUS.

AH no Ahm groan tiared of lissenin to Miz Clinton,
I done come too faaar to turn back naow........

Communal Systems
These situations proposed for very young children stinks of USSR, Red China, North Korea, and Cuban style for raising children. It is apparent that the end game would be mandatory pre school so that they can have our children as soon as possible for indoctrination. The sooner the left gets our children the more efficient they will be in creating other leftists for their cause.

Orphanages, yes! PreK, NO!
Lilly,

Ever since the demise of orphanages in favor of foster-care we have been treated to horror stories of children in cages and abuses that stagger the mind. The idea of reverting to orphanages is a matter of accountability, oversight, and safety. The greatest argument against such institutions was and must remain, a matter of physical interaction. Babies need to be held and children need hugs as a matter of good psychological development. As to preK training, I put my boy in a private 1/2 day program and monitored it closely. No way should the government mandate such a thing, let alone run it!

hillary's new plan
Well since the break down of the family is pretty near complete , what else than a day care like this ? Having your children raised by strangers from birth. Sorry state of affairs and with her running it , it will be mandatory because she would like to brainwash as many young people as possible. This certainly sounds like we are on the raod to a communist society. God help us.

Lilly,
your post reminded me of something I read about Newt Gingricvh years ago. I think it was in "Brave New Schools", by Berit Kjos. She described comments Gingrich made to someone, I forget the details.


According to Kjos Gingrich told someone in the education lobby to send him the wildest ideas they could come up with directed toward indoctrination of children. I remember how surprised i was to read that, since I had Newt figured for a good guy.


He may be, but these days it is hard to trust anyone in Washington. I think we all understand that Hillary and the Democrats support a dumbed down, leftist indoctrination for America's children. Today though, we have a treasonous president, and many Republican lawmakers who are collaborating with Democrats on amnesty for illegal immigrants.


When Arlen Specter, George Bush, Ted Kennedy and John McCain are conspiring with the Mexican Government to destroy American national sovereignty, who knows what to think? The individuals named above can be considered representitive of the government. Governments do indoctrinate citizens. Newt can be considered part of the government too.


In the paper today there is an article about all day kindergarten. Money is mentioned of course, as it always is when public education comes up. Republicans and Democrats just slugged it out in the legislature over how to spend a large surplus. Education got a large chunk of the budget. More than Republicans thought was appropriate.


Nothing new there,but Democrats run the show now in Montana. I laughed when I read that some clown from the education lobby was quoted as saying that people should not become confused by talk of how much money was allocated for schools. No. In fact this mutt claimed that the schools are really not in good shape financially.


Now they are salivating over more money for all day kindergarten. One problem is that there will be a need for more building in order to hold the all day sessions. No big problem though. After all, the educators can always float a new levy to take another bite out of property owners.

Orphanages
aren't a bad thing. Or they don't have to be. A nice campus with cottages and house parents to bring up the children, a mixed group of kids in each house so they learn how to cope with kids of different ages, doctors and psychiatrists and cops on call right on the campus so the kids get to know them; good preventaqtive medical care and regular schooling, including standard English and maybe other languages, table manners, personal care and exposure to various religions -- and a safe place for those children whose silly girl mothers didn't know sex and babies were connected in any way and otherwise would dump them in trash bins, toilets and out the windows of their high-rises into the dumpster below ... what's to dislike about that?

And how about including a Shelter on site where Mothers could bring their kids on those days when they just plain can't cope (Daddy has been rushed to the hospital, say, or Mommy has just found out that her mother's house has burned down and she has to rush to Colorado to her aid), or for kids whose parents have been arrested or who otherwise would have ended up on the street, where they could come any time with no questions asked and get a bed and food and someone to listen to their troubles even if all they want to do is whine?

Actually a series of good privately-run orphanages might do a lot of good to the average Urban Jungle. Actually I wrote about this in the 1970s.

More of that old timey liberal magic
"To be eligible for the matching funds, states would have to hire teachers with bachelor’s degrees that include training in early-childhood development, maintain low student-teacher ratios, and use some standard curricula."

In other words, this is really designed as a program to employ out-of-work english majors who took sociology as an elective. And all for a mere $50 billion or so over five years. Clearly Obama has loaned his magic wand to Hillary.


Hillary wants your Kids

.....Soon the stooges of the Hilderbeast will be in the delivery room waiting to whisk the new-born off to the INFANT NURSERIES: NEO-PAVLOVIAN CONDITIONING ROOMS ...

.....The purpose of Pre-school education is domination and control with Hillary as Big Sister .....COLOSSUS

SCAM OF shameless SCUM
it is so easy to be a philanthropist with other people's money; oh, it feels sooo good.
OH, I AM SO GOOOOOD!!!
Shame. Shame. Shame.

As Audi wrote earlier
This is "Brave New World" personified.

The GOP ain't doing much better, either, with NCLB and other garbage.

We need a conservative resurgence, not liberal regurgitation.

(bit of alliteration there)

kindergarten
My town is switching to full-day kindergarten, actually, a pilot program, to assess effectiveness. I spoke to a K teacher and she loves the idea, but not for the reasons many here might think. She stated that it will be wonderful to be able to spend time teaching the kids. They have so many requirements to fulfill in the average 3 hour schoolday that she more or less has to run from one thing to the next. I know because I volunteered one day a week. It ends being a rapid series of transitions that 6 year-olds have a tough time adapting to. In her class of 18-20 kids there are no less than 6 special needs-ADD, Asperger's, etc-kiddies that need extra attention, especially with transitions. Full-day K would eliminate some of those transitions and extend the amount of time between them so that the kids and teachers can really concentrate on learning the fundamentals. And, yes, they do that where I live!

thinker
You got that right! Charity is not obtained at the point of a government rifle. That's why they're called "liberals"- they are liberal with our money. Just like our Republicrats were. Where do we turn?

So once again, the American people
are going to abdicate their responsibility to govern themselves as a free people by accepting another entitlement as payoff for their vote. These elites have engineered this entire election process to secure all power to themselves. This clever plan is to first convince us that we have no other choice, nowhere else to go. Then, they hand us the entitlements and tell us to go home and leave the nation in their most capable hands.

Just about how much longer are we going to accept this propaganda, and trust the same individuals over and over again, expecting a different result? Why are we content to believe that they are the only ones with wisdom, knowledge, and experience enough to govern this great nation?? Why is it we continue to go along with them, selling out our own birthright and passing along to our children an inheritance of bigger government and declining personal freedom? When are we going to open our eyes to the deception that is perpetuated by the complicit MSM? What is it going to take for us to have some faith and guts to look away from these elites to a new way of thinking.

I challenge my fellow citizens to step forward and stand for that new way, uncluttered by loyalties to political machines, PACs, and lobbyists. I urge you to visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG, and see that there is a choice and we do not have to elect the lesser of two evils! We can choose someone not of either party who is only loyal to the people of this nation.

I have openly declared on my website a Campaign Platform that shows exactly how we can restore the Constitution, rule of law, and will of the people as the principles by which we govern ourselves as a free people.

If we elect another Democrat OR Republican in 2008, we will guarantee a future of more government, less freedom, and continued power for the elite internationalists that have held that power for far too long. This is the time and the election to break the partisan hold they have and reclaim our inheritance. We cannot afford to pass up this opportunity.

Visit my site, send me your emails, pro or con, but do not let this election pass without having done something besides the same old same old, which never has and never will produce a different result. Check it out, you will be pleased at what you find there. Thanks, Joe

HILLARYSKOOL

I suppose if one didn't want to send one's children to a Hillaryskool one could always abort 'em. After all, Hitlery is also pro- abortion. Talk about a lose-lose situation--for the kids.

That's Commuinism for ya
And Hitlery learned well in the USSR in 1970.

BTW all, she just came out of the Socialist closet.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070529/clinton_economy.html?.v=1

Presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton outlined a broad economic vision Tuesday, saying it's time to replace an "on your own" society with one based on shared responsibility and prosperity.

Clinton also said she would help people save more money by expanding and simplifying the earned income tax credit (REDISTRIBUTION of OPM other people's money); create new jobs by pursuing energy independence (BULLSH*T!); and ensure that every American has affordable health insurance. (Why? I don't NEED it Hitlery, my company pays for my tricare costs!)

Thinker
Three words that make libsquirts salavate profusely...

Other

Peoples

Money

GunnyG
Communism, what a coincidence! I just finished battling a lib on a MSNBC site about that very subject. He said he is not for socialism or communism, but he just wants more taxes so everyone can get paid the same, so there will no rich and poor people. What does that sound like to you? I told him the system he is proposing won't work because it has been tried and failed everywhere in the world. When I told him that I am a naturalized US citizen who had immigrated from a communist country, here to bask in the American dream, he told me to go back where I came from. Typical, isn't it?

Hiliary is just piping
her left wing party line. It doesn't change. She was spouting this dung as the 1st lady of Arkansas and First Lady. Why are we suprised? She and Karl and Max (her mentors) want to begin indoctrination right out of the womb.

Advice for those complaining about public education at any level: Put your kids in private, church-run Christian schools. Better education and better grounding. The public system is dead! Hiliary's will be DOA even if enacted.

Hillary Tot Health Care
Just more big government to dig a little deeper into the US taxpayers pocket.More social welfare.

Long term economic/educational strategy
While inefficient, ineffective state/municipal education systems whether beginning at birth or at Kindergarten are not the solution to our future economic/educational health, we do need to develop a federal/state/municipally coordinated strategy for raising the level of education across the country.

A better educated populus creates more wealth and uses that wealth more effectively for the long term improvement in standard of living.

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