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Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Mona Charen :: Townhall.com Columnist
Are We at Peace?
by Mona Charen
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Rome -- Here the sun is shining, the quiet Tiber suggests lazily that it has seen everything there is to see in this world; the streets are thronged with tourists (including this columnist); the locals are amorous; and the food is delicious. Here, perhaps even more than in the United States, one could easily slip into the comfortable feeling that we are at peace. Explaining the Obama administration's departure from some Bush interrogation techniques, Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair described reading about those methods "on a bright, sunny, safe day in ... 2009."

Well, it feels peaceful now. But to paraphrase the great Anonymous: The wise man learns from other people's mistakes. The sensible man doesn't make the same mistake twice. And the fool fails to learn from his own mistakes. History (and being in the Eternal City makes one more than usually conscious of the past) affords thousands of examples of the folly of falling into complacency when a threat seems to have temporarily abated. Troy arguably fell for this at the hands of the Greeks. Europe's democracies deluded themselves that Germany wanted peace as much as they did following the catastrophic First World War. Israel failed to keep its guard up after the 1967 war and was caught flat-footed (for a time) by the attack that came in 1973. Fill in your own favorite examples.

This week the Democratic People's Republic of Korea has exploded what looks to be a real nuclear weapon (the last explosion left some experts in doubt) and also launched a short-range missile as, what, an exclamation point perhaps? This destitute little redoubt of crazed Stalinism now has something of value to sell to the highest bidder. And while we're contemplating that grim picture, consider that there is a failure here.

We've heard incessantly since 2006 that George W. Bush's handling of the Iraq War represented the failure of armed force. And while it is certainly true that President Bush waited about two years too long to fix the problems in post-invasion Iraq, the much-overlooked reality is that developments in Iraq now seem to be on track for a happy ending. Even if you believe that the price was too high in blood and money for the results obtained, you cannot reasonably argue that the whole enterprise was a failure. In place of a genocidal aggressor in Iraq, we now have something that looks more democratic than any other Arab state.

The exclusively diplomatic approach, by contrast, has suffered a complete and total failure in the case of North Korea. This was not a failure simply of the Obama administration (U.S. Special Envoy Stephen Bosworth last week noted that the Obama administration is "relatively relaxed" and that "there is not a sense of crisis") but also of the Bush and Clinton years. All of these administrations followed essentially the same policy. Remember former President Jimmy Carter (Clinton's informal envoy) proudly boasting of the "Framework Agreement" they had achieved? The U.S. agreed to provide North Korea with fuel oil and two light-water nuclear reactors in exchange for the DPRK's promise to suspend its nuclear weapons program. When asked, a couple of years on, about North Korean violations, Secretary of State Warren Christopher was reassuring: "The Framework Accord between the United States and North Korea has proved to be quite durable through a rather long period of time as we have gone through the steps called for by the Accord. The United States has been furnishing oil and KEDO (Korean Energy Development Organization) has been moving forward in its processes. When I met with Foreign Minister Gong recently we agreed it was very important to preserve the Framework Accord because through it we have frozen the North Korean nuclear development ..."

Clinton's next secretary of state was no less solicitous of agreements. Madeleine Albright spent the last days of the Clinton presidency posing with Kim Jong-Il in Pyongyang.

The Bush administration, after some initial tough talk, caved to the State Department's diplomacy track. In its final months, the Bush administration removed North Korea from a list of terror-sponsoring states. No one has ridiculed this more pungently than former U.N. Envoy John Bolton:

"In the weeks before being delisted, North Korea expelled international inspectors, first from its Yongbyon plutonium-reprocessing facility and then from the entire complex. It moved to reactivate Yongbyon and to conduct a possible second nuclear-weapons test, and prepared for an extensive salvo of antiship and other missile capabilities. All of this the Bush administration dismissed as North Korea's typical negotiation style."

The fruits of this path of "diplomacy only" -- blindly pursued by three presidents -- are now clear. But those so eager to learn lessons from mistakes in Iraq will probably be deaf to this one.

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Incredibly incoherent article

Are we at peace?

This is an incredibly stupid question, which Charen poses in order to promote less diplomacy and more warmongering. A stunning example of bad judgement.

Iraq may have improved, but we are still the occupying force, there is still widespread violence, and our soldiers are still in danger (to put it mildly). The main effect of this war (in addition to its enormous death and detruction) has been to shift power to the shites in Iraq and to Iran in South Asia. We are also at war in Afghanistan, an escalating conflict with increasing losses for our soldiers. Given the terrain between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and previous wars against the Pashtuns, a "victorious" outcome seems highly unlikely. We are also at war with "Taliban" in NW Pakistan. This is currently fought primarily through drones, but who knows what will happen in the future. In other words, we are highly overextended.

So Charen, what are we supposed to do - attack North Korea?

Still beating the Drums of War
Charen speaks for the Right and its main constituent - the Military-Industrial Complex.
After all there's money to be made in war (fat contracts for buddies and all).

Peace is an alien concept to the Right.

Peace means a loss of opportunity to profiteer.

So no wonder the Right gets all antsy about "Peace breaking out".

As to the Iraq war - the illegal war waged by George Bush and the neocons - there is still an accounting to be had. Those in the Bush administration are still accountable for the deaths of between 150 000 to 600 000 Iraqis.

But of course Charen doesn't view these Iraqi casualties as "real people".

After all they are only Arabs, just like the other "inferior" races murdered in South East Asia, Latin America and Africa by the "superior" Western "white" aggressors.

North Korea sees what happened in Iraq and realises that the only thing that is saving them from being bombed into oblivion by the Americans is the possession of nuclear weapons.

Iran also understands this.

And all the talk about starting an arms race in the Middle East is baloney.

That arms race started a long time ago when the Zionist aggressor state - Israel - backed by American knowhow and military aid started its nuclear weapons program.

The sham democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan can only be sustained by the presence of thousands of Amrican and NATO troops.

North Korea
As we can see the American hating left loons are at it again. Dr.Douglas and Ralph are examples of the left in this country that will paint any any communist country as a VICTIM of of agression by the US. What nonsense.North Korea sucked Clinton and his dupe Carter into the oil deal back in the 90's. The North Koreans cheated on the deal from day one and admitted doing so. The far left would would blame the US if North Korea dropped a nuke on LA tomorrow. Hey Ralph if the US really wanted to blow up North Korea do you really think that their tiny nuke weapons would get off the ground? Puleeze!!!!

Ralph

What color sheets do the racists wear on the Left?


Do you know which President is considered to be the most racist in the history of this Country?

Woodrow Wilson, the Progressive Democrat.

Are we at peace?
Yes. I do not recall Congress declaring war anytime after December 8, 1941 as it is its Constitutional and moral obligation before sending people off to die.

Fact is "conservative" "Republicans" are just as contemptuous of the Constitution as their Progressive Democrat Socialist Fascist brethren - unless of course one of THEIR pet oxen is being gored.

RE: Reality Bites
Our feeble attempts to pull our enemies in to our way of thinking with the wet noodle approach of sanctions; Jimmy Carter's (who gave away the Panama Canal and fathered decentralization of airlines) meek, soppy, phoney efforts at he expense of the US and Israel; and Obama's people running around like bobblehead dolls; all have failed to stop tyrannts from their terrorizinf and menacing actions,who must have a few good laughs at our expense. We are on the brink of havng the laughing stop all over the world except in North Korea.

Dangerous Times
Obviously, Ralph, in Florida has a politically correct view of the world. Everything will be hunky dory, as long as we just respect one another. It would be nice if the world were like that.... but unfortunately, unbeknown to liberals, there are some bad people in the world. And unfortunately, some of them control countries that think we are weak for our liberal politically correct attempts to appease. They would love to see us go down, and would love to be the ones pulling the trigger. I hope people like Ralph will wake up to reality.... we live in a dangerous world. The only thing our enemies respect is our power... and that's what people like Ralph would relinquish.

Are we at piece?
Now a days in 21st century people are very engaged in different sector. In these sector the more you risk, the more you get money. Lots of anxiety, hurdles & difficulties face regularly. Now in globalisation era country faces lots of problems. terrorist & naxalists counter are important hurdles. so, people feel very much unsafe.
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