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Friday, June 15, 2007
Mona Charen :: Townhall.com Columnist
Arafatistan
by Mona Charen
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The streets of the Gaza Strip echo with gunfire as masked men fire on one another. Hundreds of Palestinians have been kidnapped, tortured and executed by other Palestinians in the past two years. In recent days, the fighting between Hamas and Fatah has intensified.

The New York Times reports that "two Palestinians were thrown from the roofs of high-rise buildings in Gaza City. One was an officer of the Presidential Guard, loyal to Fatah, and the other a member of the Executive Force, which was set up by Hamas as a counterweight to the Fatah-dominated official security forces."

In a seaside neighborhood in Gaza City, reports the Jerusalem Post, hundreds of members of the Bakr clan (loyal to Fatah), including women and children, were marched, hands up, to a nearby mosque. More than 10,000 Palestinians have filed requests to emigrate since January, prompting the Palestinian Authority's mufti to issue a fatwa forbidding Palestinians to leave the "blessed lands."

Who is responsible for this savagery? Why, the United States and Israel, of course. So declared the United Nations envoy to the Middle East, Alvaro de Soto, in a "confidential report" shared with The Washington Post. De Soto, who resigned last month after a 25-year career at the UN, blasted the U.S. for declining to fund Hamas after its victory at the polls in 2006, and complained that the Quartet (which includes the United States, the European Union and Russia) has taken "all pressure off Israel . . . even-handedness has been pummeled into submission."

Let's see, Israel withdrew altogether from the Gaza Strip in 2005, leaving the Palestinians to govern themselves. There they could have begun the process of building the "secular, democratic" state they've been claiming to thirst after for 50 years. Instead, Gaza has fulfilled the worst nightmares of the Israelis who opposed withdrawal -- importing arms from Iran, lobbing missiles into Israeli towns and engaging in internecine violence that makes a mockery of peace negotiations.

A Peruvian career diplomat at the UN is unable to see beyond his own prejudices, yet a reform-minded Egyptian author published an online essay (translated by The Middle East Media Research Institute) that penetrates to the heart of what ails Palestinian society and the Middle East in general. Kamal Gabriel's analysis would resound for its wisdom anywhere, but it is particularly noteworthy coming from within the Arab world -- a useful reminder that voices of reason and benevolence are not altogether silent in that part of the world.

Gabriel writes:

"[T]he all-against-all infighting and its basic code have become the mental and psychological makeup of the Palestinian people, as a natural result of the predominant discourse of hostility and incitement. [This discourse] has been adopted by Palestinians of all persuasions and in all the factions -- religious, pan-Arab revolutionary, and leftist. It is a discourse whose aim was sowing hatred, having recourse to violence, and enjoying spilling blood.

"At first it was directed against the so-called Israeli enemy, and it uprooted any possibility of or tendency towards rational mutual comprehension or of recourse to discussion, dialogue, and negotiation . . .

"This was translated into political language in the slogan that the Arab-Israeli struggle is an existential struggle, and not a struggle over borders, and its implementation in practice was the so-called martyrdom-seeking operations for killing Israeli civilians. The hatred was transformed from hatred of Zionism to hatred of Jews, 'the sons of apes and pigs.'

"Perhaps no one has noticed -- for where are we to find someone to notice, in the absence of reason and rationality? -- that when you take an individual or a group away from the culture of using reason and peaceful dialogue, and replace it with the culture of violence and of killing those who are different, you cannot then afterwards control it and direct it to be used against one single side.

". . . It starts with the Zionist enemy who is occupying the Holy Land, and the violence and the hatred spread dangerously, like fire, in the psyche . . . . They consume everything around them -- and the first thing they consume is the light of reason. . . . Thus we observed, and gave our blessing to, the conflagrations of violence and hatred . . . and its expansion is the fraternal violence we see [today] . . .

"In my estimation, this is the fruit that we are harvesting because we sowed thorns for over half a century."

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Excellent thought
As anyone who has read "Lord of the Flies" will tell you - Once murderous intentions enter, rational thought leaves.

I've heard the whole region is agast, simply agast that such things could be happening to such a people... a peaceful people...

But what worries me is Caroline Glick's most recent column. Shimon Peres has GOTTEN elected. Is he really going to hand over the West Bank? With Condi Rice suggesting a 'contiguous Palestine' it has me worried for the future of Israel...

A greater role for the UN
I think when the world recognized Israel it occurred thru UN sponsorship. Not so with the PA. If the UN could have made the PA a "protectorate" and assumed all duties of defending the Palestinaians, maybe things would have been different but I'm inclined to think not.
One thinks how the African colonial nations blamed their poverty on Europeans. When the Europoeans relinquished control of the various African states, we all expected the newly liberated nations to blossom.
Today many now say the Europeans didnt stay long enough to transmit their civil values to the locals. Hence, black post colonial Africa deals with thuggish regimes and poverty while living under the watchful eyes of various presidents for life. (Mugabe, etc)
Many many parallels with Arafatistan.

A theory of blame
Most of us have a theory of blame that results from our childhood. We believe that the person most to blame for an action is the person who engaged in that action. Excuses like "Timmy made me do it" don't go over well with parents.

Is there a theory of blame that the UN and leftists in general have, one that is fully articulated? I don't think so. It just seems to be a mindless blaming-the-U.S.-or-Israel, no matter what happens.

In this instance, the blame doesn't make sense, even granting that it never does anyway. Because we failed to fund Hamas, Hamas has vanquished Fatah. One would have expected the exact opposite, that Fatah would have vanquished Hamas.

So, let's hear it, leftists. What exactly is your theory of blame?

palestinian Violence
palestinian faction waring against palestinian faction is like your mother-in-law in a fight with a bear ---------- you don't know who you want to win.

Are we now allowed
To declare the vaunted, hoped-for, and pursued-with-single-minded-fixation "two-state solution" to the "Palestinian 'problem'" officially dead?

I am somewhere between amused and disgusted that the immediate reaction is "It's all Bush's fault". Even though it is. President Bush, like every U.S. President of both major parties going back to Richard Nixon, has done exactly what the (predominantly Arabist) "wiser heads" in the foreign-policy business have told him. Namely, given the Palestinians everything they've demanded, with no guarantees in return. And, like every U.S. President since Richard Nixon, he's ended up looking like a fool for doing so. Helped, to be sure, by his "foreign policy team", all of whom should be fired immediately. Not be "allowed to resign"; fired. Otherwise, there's a chance that some of them might be back in
charge of our MidEast policy in the future. With the various "frontline" states on the verge of being nuclear powers, I'm not that anxious to see what their next blunder would be.

As I see it, we have three options at this point;

1. Establish a "cordon sanitaire'" around the Palestinians, and let them murder each other until they run out of ammunition and/or targets.

2. Re-colonialize the region, and drag it by the scruff of the neck out of the 7th Century and into the 21st, much as we "fast-forwarded" Japan from the 16th Century to the 20th Century from 1945 to 1960. (If this course is required, expect the "politically correct" to call for us all to not merely lose, but be executed en masse for "crimes against humanity". Also expect to see a casualty list that makes that seen so far in Iraq look small by comparison.)

or

3. Continue as we have done- and in a few decades, we will be debating exactly why Palestinians are killing each other over exactly who gets to be the top dog in the new "Palestinian state" where Europe used to be.

Unless of course, by that time, they really have succeeded in killing each other off in their quest for absolute and perfect Paradise On Earth.

After first killing all the rest of us, of course.


eon

Sow the wind
The Palestinians have sown the wind and are reaping the whirlwind.

See what they are doing with their freedom and self government. ( Hint: Some self control is require for such things to work, other wise there is chaos and anarchy.)

Does anyone remember
Does any one remember the original Star Trek TV episode "Let that be your last battlefield" ?

One character had been pursuing the other for centuries.... google the title and see if it fits..better yet here's a link
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/11102.html

I think it fits the situation

Let me shed a tear
Gosh, what is of strategic value in Palestine?
Nothing. It's a dirty, dusty, cinder block area populated by thugs. Why do we give them money? I am glad they are killing each other. Go to it. Get it all done. Do it now. Do these people have strategic weapons? No. They don't even have tanks, do they? What is more important. The Rockies took two of three from the Red Socks. Who do they play tonight. I don't care about Palistine. Let them kill each other. The more dead thugs the better. And they killed each other, priceless.

Dr. K

Islam
I thought this was "The Religion of Peace"?

Check out my latest Blog Posting, A Tribute to Father's Day.

Palestinians
Right now they are proving every thing i have ever said of them true. They are incapable of self governance. It is far past time to stop dumping money into a two state solution. If the so called Palestinians are so great and wonderful, let Jordan absorb them since that is where they came from in the first place. Seems like they don't want them either.

Georgetwin
Good blog! I knew I liked you. Your officially added to my reading list. BTW my Dad isn't a hillbilly, but he is a Okie. Close enough.

For Packrat
There is a rather ghastly similarity between two somewhat-similar sounding names:
(1) Pakistan -- a nation carved out of British India on "two-nation theory"; 24 years later, one part of the nation demanded a fair election and got butchered--leading that part to break away as Bangladesh. Even after it is truncated to a singular plot, it hasn't learned from that and continues stoking INTERNAL tensions.
(2) "Palestine" -- mythical Arab nation, demanded by a criminal made Jerusalem Mufti by the British (whom he promptly backstabbed by making a deal with Hitler, so he could be Sultan); his protege/successor Arafat was also monstrous, ruling through murder/suppression of rivals--a practice continued after his death by the factions.

Basically shows that the Brigand's Cult aka Islam is a religion of proactive hatred!

Whose to blame?
For those of us who have sympathy for both the Israelis and the Palestinians, events in Gaza are disheartening. Most posts show no compassion for the Palestinians, who have been humiliated and oppressed for forty and more years.

We often forget that Israel encouraged Hamas as an antidote to Arafat's PLO. We overlook the fact that Israel has spent four decades expanding settlements on the West Bank, hardly a contribution to peace. I have visited Israel four times on Christian pilgrimages and each time returned with greater sympathy for the Palestinians who have been treated like dirt for so long. How long was it that even mention of a Palestinian state would send AIPAC-type Israel-firsters into a rage?

American unqualified and enormous financial, military and diplomatic support of Israel over the years, for domestic political reasons and because of bribery, intimidation or brain-washing, is a major factor in the mess we're in today throughout the Middle East. Had we been fair, sympathetic both to the Israelis and Palestinians, I doubt if we would have created such hatred among Arabs and in the vast Muslim world that eventually led to terrorist attacks, especially 9-11. There is plenty of blame to go around, but the USA needs to accept its share. We were in a position to force an even-handed settlement but we failed to do it. Congress has been even worse than most administrations because of pressure from Israel-firsters. We seem intent on being blind to the just cause of the Palestinians.

I hope it's not too late. Sooner or later there is going to be a major backlash against Israel in this country once all the truth is out. Millions will feel that we have been duped. What a tragedy it will be if anti-Semitism increases and Israel is cast aside. The only hope for Israel in the long run is a fair. equitable peace. A separate Palestinian state with its capital in Arab East Jerusalem and with air, water and other rights. And compensation to those whose lands were taken, orchards and houses were demolished, etc.

Pray - and work - for the peace of Jerusalem. Both the Israelis and Palestinians have suffered enough, and reconciliation is possible, but only if the USA becomes a just negotiator. Those of you who are ready to have American $billions and blood spilled for Israel need to pull your heads out of the sand before public opinion swings. There are signs of that already as people become disllusioned with the Iraq misadventure.


LoLo
THANK YOU! For some reason, I wrote in past tense. My Father is VERY MUCH ALIVE!

"Islamic democracy"?
President Bush has made the establishment of democracies in the Muslim world, a major thrust of his foreign policy. He insisted that all peoples can and will want Western-style freedom, and it was even "racist" to suggest otherwise.

Well, we've now had three examples of failed Islamic states: Iran after the shah, Iraq after Saddam, and now the Palestinian territories. Each time, the U.S. hoped that peaceful, stable democracy would arise there. Each time it did not.

OK, Mr. Bush: That many instances of failure call for an explanation. What's wrong with Islamic society that it seems incapable of producing the kind of free societies the West enjoys?

(I have a pretty good idea myself, but I'm too tired of being called a "bigot" to suggest it. So to avoid getting my post flagged as "offensive," I'll just keep it to myself this time.)

SteveL
Re Islamic democracy. Yes, it has been frustrating.

But I remember Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin, Tito, and sundry other dictators in Europe not that long ago. When I was a child nearly all of Africa and much of Asia was under such 'democratic' colonial powers as England, France, Belgium and Holland, not to mention Italian, Spanish, and Russian expansionism.

Oh, and back then Black Americans in the south were systematically deprived of the vote.

I'm not sure it is entirely appropriate for us to lecture other countries coming out of colonialism on how wonderful we are.

Roy,
I do not agree with your statement assigning blame for the "poor Palestinians" plight.
Are you a Believer? Your post indicates that you are. How then can you say the things about Israel that you did?
Do you not know the true history of the region?
svpallava put it quite well. No one has a right to Israel but the Jews, they are the only people on Earth who GOD specifically gave a country to.
They should have never withdrawn from any of it. You are hopelessly naive if you believe that more attempted appeasement will work with the "palestinians", who are nothing more than Arabs who should have been absorbed into Arab countries. The ARABS keep them in the situation that they are in, it works quite well for their interests.
Terror is the customary response of Arab-Muslims to express their grievances. It is a result of their culture and of their history. It has nothing to do with Israel and would not be any different if Israel had never existed or (God forbid) ceased to exist.
The Arabs are some of the richest people on Earth, but instead of using their enormous wealth to benefit their people, they squander it in bizarre luxury excesses for a privileged few.
Even the nineteen Muslim hijackers on Sept. 11th were not poor or desperate, they were from upper middle class families and were educated.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when the party of King terrorist, Yasser Arafat, would be considered the "moderate" party.

Goddie4LT
You obviously are a sincere believer in the notion that God is in the real estate business, that the Jews have been awarded the Holy Land. The Bible states at one point that everything from the Mediterranian to the Euphrates belongs to the Jews. Do you go along with that, too? Ridiculous. That would include Jordan, Lebanon, much of Iraq, etc.

I am a devout Christian, never miss church, read my Bible faithfully, etc. However, I do not use the scriptures as some sort of ouiji board or as a pack of tarot cards or a crystal ball. All my life (and I'm a senior) preachers have identified the anti-Christ, everyone from Hitler to Carter to Saddam! I resent this taking some verses here and some verses there and pretending to prophesy the future. That is so much hogwash that has been going on for centuries. It's a corruption of our faith.

The Hagees and Robertsons are typical of ministers who play that silly and dangerous game. They're no better or wiser or more accurate than fortune-tellers. Sadly, millions of decent Bible-believers come under their spell because they are nimble at quoting scripture. This is similar to those Muslims who find all sorts of signs and omens in their Koran. It's superstition and not intelligent religious faith, be it Christian, Muslim or Jewish. These three faiths, by the way, all stem from Abraham and we should be looking for ways of bringing them together. It's a tragic family quarrel. The Muslims honor Jesus and there is more about the Virgin Mary in the Koran than in the Bible!

I worship God and not assorted and scattered verses taken out of context to put together some political scheme or make one group of people God's favorites. God is no respecter of persons, has no favorites, no racial or religious bigotry like many humans have. Note how Jesus kept making a Samaritan the hero in the gospels. The Samaritans were despised by the Jews, much as many Jews despise Palestinians in our time.

The point is: justice for both Jews and Palestinians. Peace and prosperity for both. That will not come until the Palestinians are treated fairly.

Roy
Oh no you don't. You can not be allowed to get away with the nonsense you write.
The so called Palestinians you have so sympathy for in fact lived quite under Israeli rule until we made the fatal mistake of allowing Arafat and his merry band of terrorists to take over as the legitimate representatives of the so called Palestinians. Before that the people of Gaza and the West Bank were more autonomous than they have been. They ran their own daily lives, elected their own local governments, many worked in Israel proper and we were welcome patrons of their businesses. All that came to a screeching halt when the PLO took over and killed the locals who were seen as collaborators with the Zionist enemy. Thousands were cold bloodedly murdered for that.
Israel never, hear me, never supported Hamas over the PLO. The international community had to twist our collective arm to allow Hamas to run in that fateful election. The only people the so called Palestinians can blame for their situation is themselves. I have long thought that one of the reasons Jordan and Egypt went to war with us in 67 other than to wipe us off the map was to get rid of the West Bank and Gaza. No matter how many times we offered them back, they refused to accept them back.The present goings on there just lend credence to that theory.

Roy
You kill me with your comments. The Palestinians treated fairly? They have been treated more than fairly from the Israelis, but guess what? They can't govern themselves. When left to their own devices what do they do? They start a civil war and gives credence to the fact that Israel has nothing to do with their stubborn and futile lives being ruined.

Roy
".....because of bribery, intimidation or brain-washing, is a major factor in the mess we're in today throughout the Middle East. Had we been fair, sympathetic both to the Israelis and Palestinians, I doubt if we would have created such hatred among Arabs and in the vast Muslim world that eventually led to terrorist attacks, especially 9-11."

Who are you kidding with this diatribe? We, the US has given the Palestinians more money than you can count. And, just what have they done with that money? Buy arms to launch rockets over to Israel.

Hatred among Arabs? Give me a break. Why don't these Arabs help their friends, the Palestinians out? The Arabs kicked them out of their countries. Do you know anything at all about this subject or are you just practicing your typing skills this afternoon?

Shameless blog plug
I have a new article on my blog which kind of ties in with this subject since Iran is behind all of the ME violence going on including Hamas being funded.

My article is "Blame America for Iran's ME Plan".
http://peppermintsplace.townhall.com

Also visit purplegimp's new blog. She is an Israeli and has very interesting takes on world events.
http://thegimpwonders.townhall.com

Oh, and Roy,
I've only been living in Israel since 1970 and remember the period leading up to Arafat's triumphant return and the first intifada. There were even incidents of rocks being thrown at civilian vehicles on major public roads. All of a sudden Israelis were no longer honored patrons of Arab businesses even in some parts of Israel proper. I do agree that we brought this upon ourselves but only because we gave in to unreasonable demands. We are now faced with the insane situation where Hamas took the weapons we gave the PLO under the Oslo agreement and they are now getting ready to use them against us. So, yeah, ok, it's our own fault, but not because we were cruel occupiers-rather the opposite.

For more reading from purplegimp:
Visit her blog at the following address. You can get real time news from Israel and the events unfolding there.

http://gimpsopinionfromthenorth.blogspot.com/

Purplegimp
Obviously, as one who migrated to Israel, you have less interest in US security than in Israel security.

I have three interests in this matter: (1) a wise US foreign policy; (2) a fair settlement of the Israel-Palestinian controversy; (3) peace and prosperity in the whole world, including Israel and Palestine.

There is much too much to answer in your spoutings. I can only recommend that you devote some time to reading both sides. If you do that, and if you are openminded, you will find yourself sympathetic to Israel and the Palestinians. Both sides have made serious blunders and both sides have suffered much too much.

To date you appear to have been totally brainwashed by the hardline Israeli crowd. It's encouraging that many Israelis and American Jews look beyond narrow nationalism and understand that peace only will come with a new attitude on both sides. As long as the US stands behind Israel, with our military and diplomatic power, no solution will appear that is fair to the Palestinians. And as long as Israel keeps expanding settlements on the West Bank, with its Jews-only roads etc, Israel seems unready to make a serious effort toward reconciliation and peace.

Palestinians are a proud people and for years Israel's biggest mistake has been to treat them as inferiors. Of all people, the Jews should be sensitive to this problem.

Roy
I don't know how you get to the conclusion that simply because I moved here I have any less interest in America's security than I would if I still lived there.
Oh, yes, I am going to be sympathetic towards a bunch of terrorists are not now, and never been a people. Our biggest mistake was allowing them to get away with making that claim.
Why don't you read some history yourself? Your so called palestinians are nothing more than generic arabs who came here after we got the 'desert to bloom' and could provide them with employment.
You might want to read Samuel Clements description of Palestine (as it was called by the Turks for lack of a better name for the province)
In 1948 when just about all the arab nations attacked the newly born country they themselves called for the arabs that were here to leave and wait until they eradicated the Jewish state so they could back and claim the spoils. Unfortunately for them it didn't quite work out that way. The people that fled with the hope to return and take over ended up being kept in refugee camps to be used as bargaining chips on a sympathetic but ignorant world.
The ones who stayed are full citizens today and have full voting rights.
I'm not sure what the answer for the so called palestinians is, but there won't be one until they, you and the US all realize that they themselves are standing in the way of any peaceful settlement.
You could do with a little reading rather than rolling out that pro palestinian drivel.
See? It really does work: Tell a lie often enough and it will become true.

Purplegimp
Don't have time to rebuttal as a full plate of other things to accomplish.

As I stated earlier, you have swallowed the hardline Israeli line, hook, line and sinker, so I presume it would be a waste of time to reason with you. It may be too late to achieve accord in the Holy Land. Israel has exhibited the iron fist and treated the Palestinians with such condescension for so long. Your version of Palestinian history reeks of racism, just as Arab textbooks do. Both sides have been so wrong.

The USA was in a position to force an even-handed settlement on the two parties but we failed because of domestic politics - money and intimidation and incessant propaganda. Gradually, the American people are waking up and eventually will force our politicians to change course. Iraq and our mess there has done a lot to open the minds of well-meaning but misguided patriots.

A key question: how does continual expansion of Israeli settlements on the West Bank contribute toward peace and toward confidence in the honorable intentions of Israel? It certainly appears like a persistent land grab. And why did Israel consistently oppose even mention of a Palestinian state for decades? And how can a state claim to be a democracy when it allows only Jews to settle there, frowns even on Reform or Conservative Judaism, enforces Sabbath laws upon everyone, and continues to occupy Palestinian terrtory for 40 years against international law? And we could go on, but I must devote myself to more productive projects now.

Roy
I simply refuse to refuse to keep this going. YOU are the one who is brainwashed and needs to read facts.
Your post show a total lack of knowledge about Israel's history and that of the so called Palestinians. I can't be bothered with ignorant dolts. Keep on believing what you want with no regard for hard facts and it bothers not in the least that you think I was brainwashed.

Purplegimp
Why bother with morons? Most likely Roy has more productive things to do probably like defending the Hizzies next.

Peppermint
I fully intend to ignore him from now on. Anyone who rather believe fairy tales spun by internationally recognized terrorists rather than check the actually historical record deserves what he'll get come the day.

Hm!
Interesting how those whose primary allegiance is to Israel drop out of a conversation when the going gets tough. (See my last post.)

Again: the USA likely could have averted most of this bloodshed in the ME if we had been genuinely sympathetic and helpful to both sides in the tragic Israeli-Palestinian confrontation. Both sides have strong points that require consideration, and both sides have been wrong. The Israeli occupation of Arab lands after 1967 was a serious mistake, and Palestinian terrorism aimed at civilians is an immoral resistance tactic.

Those of you who talk 'nuke 'em', who seek to portray the Palestinians as evil people, are typical of those who have promoted wars for generations. First of all, demonize the other side. It has to stop, and some of us are at the point where we don't want to lend our support to any of it. It's playing outrageous games, often egged on by power-egos or greed or bigotry. Some of us take our religion seriously enough to want to change that.

Much is made by bigots, most of them grossly misinformed, of Muhammad as an evil man. You can interpret him that way or in a very different way. It's like the Bible. One could argue (and some probably do) that the genocide directed by Joshua against, say Jericho and Ai was a 'holy war', or that God's commandment to Saul that he kill every single Amalekite meant that such massacres justified. Even David was hailed because he killed so many more than Saul. Poppycock.

There is plenty in the Judeo-Christian tradition, if you look for it, to justify all sorts of terrorism. Even the plagues slaughtered the eldest son of every Egyptian family. Ugh! Not my version of my Christian religion.
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