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Friday, May 01, 2009
Mike Gallagher :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why Bother?
by Mike Gallagher
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When I had the nerve to suggest that since people from Mexico were bringing a deadly swine flu virus into the United States that it might be a good idea to tell them to stop coming by closing the southern border, it took all of about three minutes for a caller to accuse me of being a racist.

“Alex” from Southern California said he was an Hispanic man whose family came here from Central America. He could barely contain his indignation. “You conservatives are all alike," he fumed. “I'll bet you didn't call for the same thing when we had the bird flu outbreak from Asia during the Bush Administration.”

I tried to be patient. “Alex," I said, “last time I checked, we don't share a border with Asia and since the bird flu was transmitted by birds to humans, not human-to-human (like the swine flu), what should we have done? Stopped birds from migrating?”

He was in no mood to listen. He was already on to another topic. “It's just like the invasion of Iraq...”, he began.

Oh brother.

Leave it to an Obama supporter to bring up Iraq in the middle of a conversation about the swine flu pandemic.

And he's not even all that unusual. This week, some of the lefty bloggers were claiming that Republicans were responsible for the swine flu outbreak since some of the stimulus money that supposedly would have gone towards vaccinations was held up by GOP legislators.

It's awfully hard to get into the head of a liberal. Instead of logic and reason, they are drawn to emotions and feelings. That's not to say we conservatives don't emote or feel. It's just that we like to apply a healthy application of common sense to things. If there's a swarm of bees outside an open window, it might be a good idea to close the window, even if a few bees have already flown into the house.

Somehow, Democrats who oppose shutting the border don't see the analogy. Vice-President Joe “I-wouldn't-let-my-family-ride-the-subway-because-of-swine-flu” Biden defended the refusal to seal the border by saying that it's too late, a few people have the flu in the U.S. now anyway, so why bother?

I guess he'd be the one dope who stared open-mouthed at that proverbial swarm of bees and just watched as they all flew into the house, stinging everybody in sight.

No, Democrats know full well that closing the U.S./Mexico border right now makes all the sense in the world. But again, you have to try and get into their heads to see why they won't.

Alex genuinely heard racism when he listened to my perfectly reasonable suggestion. Liberals instinctively cling to racism or bigotry or hate or narrow-mindedness whenever they can.

And in this case, they're smart enough to know that finally dealing with this disaster of an issue called border security might just lead to a further effort to thwart the tidal wave of illegals - once and for all.

If, heaven forbid, we actually did something about the problem along the southern border, we could stop the spigot of people who continue to insist on stealing residency from our country.

Democrats like Alex and President Obama and Secretary Napolitano don't dare stand up to Mexico and threaten the path that millions of determined illegal immigrants take into the United States.

Now that Democrats are in charge in Washington, I guess it's futile to hope that anything is going to be done with the terrible problem of illegal immigration. If they won't close the border to keep a killer virus from entering the country, why would we expect them to try and stop drug cartels and drunk drivers and child molestors and other criminals from sneaking across the border and killing and maiming our people?

I await the day when President Obama decides that we just don't need any border patrol agents or law enforcement personnel along the border.

Why bother?

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Mike Adams had it right
A racist is someone who interjects race into a situation that has no racial element in it.

With this definition Alex (and any cowards that run to the 'racist!' accusation) are in fact racists.

Logic and Reason
Close the border to stop the Mexicans from coming here. Never mind the Americans that go there and bring diseases back. It's always the border. It's lower income people going through a border crossing on a bus, but it's not the Americans on a plane. How could anyone think Gallagher was using a different standard for rich and poor? The caller merely misinterpreted it as racism.

Just one more door
opened to potential disaster. From all that is positively known, swine flu may or may not amount to anything. What's the count so far? World-wide, an insignificant number of deaths. But its one more possible Katrina, one more chance for something to go wrong and make the administrations response look stupid and silly. The huge debt, the fawning foreign tour, the announced decisions to escalate in Pakistan and Afghanistan, the bailouts, the marginalization of Israel and Britain, the open borders, the competition of illegal aliens for the unskilled jobs that are so important to umbo voters. On the horizon, the unfunded entitlements approaching much faster as tax receipts sink with the sinking economy. And don't forget, he didn't get his dog from a shelter. Now THAT could cost him a whole bunch of votes from PETA. Naaah. The Feminists didn't desert Slick Willy over Monica. With moonbats, it always depends whose ox is getting gored.

EMOTIONS--THE LIBERAL DEFENSE TO ALL
It is so true.

I cannot even have a discussion with my liberal associates without someone bringing up the "racist" 'Sexist" "intolerant" namecalling.

They do not have an idea in thier heads that relate to logic, reason and clarity.

YET, THEY HOLD ALL POWER IN THIS COUNTRY--KINDA LIKE WWII GERMANY--NO SENSE, JUST EMOTION FROM A HYNOTIC PERSONALITY--MESMERIZED BY RHETORIC AND FAULTY LOGIC.

ROWDY BOOTS

Common Sense
If I don't want someone coming into my house to eat my food, take my money, abuse or kill my family, I lock my door. If someone wants to bring in a contagious disease I may even load a weapon. We do not owe anyone who is not a citizen of this country the right to enter.

If, and only if, they want to follow the correct procedures to gain entrance, should they be given consideration to enter, period. To enforce this we need to secure our borders. This is not racist, it's called "Sovereignty", look it up!

"He'll be the one dope ... ."
If only.

The UN
Runs our country today.

I know it can be ignored or denied as no one will admit it, but.

Read Agenda 21 and see for yourself.
The open border is a UN Policy for world government.

I also know most everyone thinks of the GOP and the Democrats as opposites, and of course there are differences for sure, but.

Where they are alike is whatever policy the UN wants for global government, and on those policies there is no difference in GW Bush or Barack Obama.

quote:
"Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment."

http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/documents/agenda21/index.htm

What our problem is, the people in DC are going to force this on all of us and remove all of our rights to vote or be represented through Congress and bring in global govenment by TRADE POLICY etc.
Which they have already done behind closed doors and keep silent about.

Napilotano or Barry Soetoro will just say we can't close the border, ha ha.
Only a fool would believe these liars

Mike, I'm starting to like you, not that
not that we agree, but that you don't stray far from reality. You skirt it often, but you don't shirk your duty to allow that others have a view.

That's commendable.

So, let's see if I understand you.

You want to close the border up tight, right?

That's what I'll take from this article.

Ok, sure, it has a ring of reason, and common sense about the crisis. But it has a very impractical problem. What does it cost?

Which agencies pay? What of companies who lose employees? What of produce left in the fields to rot? How do we police the airlines, ships, private boaters, illegal crossings [now that we have a health danger], and so on?

No this is not disagreement. I want answers.

Also, when does the closing end? What's the measure?

FLU SCARE IS JOKE
whats coming MAY 7 is not!...buy may 7th, obama has to find someone, ANYONE, to lend the US $175 BILLION to run our government. what kind of deal will obama make with our enemy countries to get a $175 BILLION loan from them! if there was ever a call for a march on the whitehouse, it is now!

Mike
I can't believe you are falling for this MSM/ Obamana orchestrated "flu scare".


Unbelievable, just unbelievable!
That's what I thought when I learned that Janet Napolitano has rejected a request from Customs and Border patrol agents working the border checkpoints that they be allowed to wear protective masks.

However, in the spirit of compromise, she agreed to let them don a mask if the person they were questioning looked sick.

And this women is supposed to protect our nation?

God save the United States! Please!

Rick, you wrote to Gallagher
This, but I know I see it as he does and will give you an answer I believe Mike would share.
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Rick writes:

You want to close the border up tight, right?

That's what I'll take from this article.

Ok, sure, it has a ring of reason, and common sense about the crisis. But it has a very impractical problem. What does it cost?

Which agencies pay?
=======================
Its a simple matter of priority, as money has been no object to bail out Banks and Auto Manufacturing, Iraq, Afganistan, AIG...etc.

Fact is there was money allotted about 3 years ago for the fence to be built, and it is not being used at all for that.


=====================

What of companies who lose employees?

We have 10-12 percent unemployment of our own citizens, right now.
Look it up, millions have lost their jobs
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What of produce left in the fields to rot?

There is an existing program that allows laborers to come and work in the fields, legally, no need to come illegally.

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How do we police the airlines, ships, private boaters, illegal crossings [now that we have a health danger], and so on?

We have the Border Patrol, Coast Guard and National Guard already payed to do this job.




No this is not disagreement. I want answers.
=======================


Will you hear the answers

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Also, when does the closing end? What's the measure?

Just do what has been done for a couple hundred years and not act like it has always been open, it has not

It's like...
Trying to reason with liberal ideologues is like trying to reason with a two year old.

Question
Does anyone think that this flu "crisis," is part of the plan to nationalise the health care industry?

wbheff
Of course we do!

The Y2K Flu
This is an attempt to change the subject from King Zero's buzzing Manhattan in Air Farce One, with his wife and kids and Chicago buds on board, and charging $350,000 to the taxpayers, not to mention whatever he paid Al Gore in carbon offsets.

But as they say, never let a good crisis go to waste; use it to close the borders by all means.

Analogies
The Obama administrations keeps using the argument, "why close the barn door when all the horses have already left?" Of course, this is a total joke. I'd like to know how many American become infected from people that cross the border after "the horses have left."

Mike used a great analogy about bees - one that is far more accurate to this situation.

By why not drop the analogies altogether? Why now just ask, "Since a handful of terrorists might already be in the country, why close our borders now?" That seems to be the same logic the administration is using.

Mike,
I like the bees analogy, perhaps Joe Biden will tell us how he use to be a beekeeper on Long Island and sold honey to the Indians so they wouldn't have to catch the subway to Jersey.

Seriously, immigrants, at a better time in our nation's history, had to pass through Ellis Island where they were screened for contagious diseases before they were allowed entry to the USA. But that was before the takeover of our country by the effeminate elite who don't give a rat's rear end what happens to those of us who go about our daily lives, working, raising a family and clinging to our guns and religion.

Keep up the good work, God bless you.

And from other countries we get
this:
For all personnel travelling to Kuwait --- Issues with Swine Flu and Kuwait (UNCLASSIFIED)


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE



ALCON

The Kuwait government just started with a new law that required all personnel arriving from the swine flu infected countries to go thru a Kuwait medical clinic for a check up within 72 hours upon arrival in Kuwait. Everyone is being check at the airport for sign of fever and it is being handed the attached health card. With that card the individual must go to a clinic within 72 hours.

The Kuwaiti government, in response to the Swine Flu outbreak, is now taking all passengers' (with an initial flight from the USA) temperature as they enter into Kuwait City International Airport (KCIA).

Forwarded for your information and situational awareness.


Click handle for my own thoughts, if interested.

Talent
I ask: What does it cost? Which agencies pay?

"Its a simple matter of priority, as money has been no object to bail out Banks and Auto Manufacturing, Iraq, Afganistan, AIG...etc.

Fact is there was money allotted about 3 years ago for the fence to be built, and it is not being used at all for that."

Priority is a matter of judgment, and it's Nepalitano who will make the case to Obama and Co. I don't know what politics will play, but no doubt it will stink with politics.

I think the idea has possibility. But, the project is huge, regardless of answers to my questions. In a way they are rhetorical. But, I'm fine with discussing them.

What of companies who lose employees?

"We have 10-12 percent unemployment of our own citizens, right now. Look it up, millions have lost their jobs"

I'm well aware of the trend. What is to be considered is not just the rate, but proximity. Where are the unemployed, who can fill the loss? It's not so simple. But, I do think a way could be found.

What of produce left in the fields to rot?

"There is an existing program that allows laborers to come and work in the fields, legally, no need to come illegally."

But Talent, that defeats the closed border. Closing is for all, legal and illegal. I think you dropped the ball with this one.

How do we police the airlines, ...?

"We have the Border Patrol, Coast Guard and National Guard already payed to do this job."

Here I think you also drop the ball. There will be an as yet to be measured increase in illegal crossings, and there will be outcries of lost revenue from the passenger carriers.

What's the measure?

"Just do what has been done for a couple hundred years and not act like it has always been open, it has not"

Is it zero reports? If zero, or whatever number, by what time period? One week, month, months, a year?

Mike
I do not think it is necessary at this time to close the borders. H1N1 does not appear to be highly virulent. It is important to minimize the amount of people in the US with this strain. If the H1N1 virus mutates into a highly virulent state with a high mortality rate in someone in the United States with the flu, Mexico will close its border to the United States.

I do not know anyone who does not feel the importance of controlling the border. It is important to protect the US population and livestock from disease. It is important to prevent non native flora and wild life from overtaking our native habitat. It is important to prevent terrorists, criminals, and illegal drugs from entering our country. It is important to prevent foreigners from taking our jobs and from taking the resources that have been allocated for our poor.

Racist...hardly We need to finish the fence.

Selective enforcement
Obama doesn't feel we need border security - look at his response to Texas Governor Perry. But he does want a federal police force. Get the picture?

Galleger dont you know by
now that any disagreement with Obama's policies lables you a racist and probably a potential terrorist. The left made all kind of accusations that the president would misuse his powers when Bush was in power. Well they were right only its their guy thats doing it.

Mike
"I do not know anyone who does not feel the importance of controlling the border."

Washington is loaded with such people. You can count on one hand the number of elected officials who actually think border security is important. Many who pay lip service, but those who will act can be counted on one hand.

Keep on being reasonable Mikey
"Alex genuinely heard racism when he listened to my perfectly reasonable suggestion. Liberals instinctively cling to racism or bigotry or hate or narrow-mindedness whenever they can."

Perfectly reasonable! Stupid Latinos are so ungrateful. Shut up and vote republican!

Wonder why they keep voting for the democratic party? Maybe you need to shout louder? Scary that they're the fastest growing minority and they have slipped out of republican hands, eh? Yeah...just need to denigrate them a little bit louder I think. What would a Latino know about racism anyway? The chubby white firecrotch will lecture you about it.

Mr. Gallagher
Although your liberal callers are kooks, your suggestion to close the border was irrational. There is no "pandemic." Flu strains go around every year and kill as many or more people as this one has. You don't shut down the border for a few cases of influenza.

Certain elements are trying to turn this into a big deal because it gives The One an easy "problem" for which he cannot fail and can easily pick up political points by acting like a strong, concerned President. They can get away with their panic-mongering because the particular strain, H1N1, was the same as that of the great influenza pandemic of 1917. The strain managed to infect so many people at the time because of political (trench warfare), economic, and social conditions which do not exist today, not because it was inherently more virulent. This is an established scientific fact, not opinionating.

This really is no big deal.

Wendy
That's what they said about the Black Plague in the beginning...

It's a little foolish to dismiss the Swine Flue as "no big deal". We won't know how big a deal it is for a few weeks.

I could make a problem
Out of the color of a rose if I wanted to.
Appears to me this is what you are doing with the innocent approach loaded with a made up mind.
=======================
I said:
"There is an existing program that allows laborers to come and work in the fields, legally, no need to come illegally."


Rick responds with a nonsequitur due to his made up mind an cunning method of appearing as if innocently asked from an intellectual sound question and is bs:


Rick writes:
But Talent, that defeats the closed border. Closing is for all, legal and illegal. I think you dropped the ball with this one.
=======================

Horse manure
Even the Soviet Union had closed borders but still allowed airlines to carry passengers from around the world.

You are playing games and think you are clever and are not close.
Its as easy to see through your "innocent" questions as it is to see day light.

The panic over the flu
Has nothing to do with the flu.

It has everything to do with the politics of the moron in the WH

shut the border down
for the sake of shutting the border down. Not because Obama has created a flu scare, there is no real concern over the swine flu. But shut the border down because I'm tired of illegal aliens abusing our health care system and not contributing towards the federal tax system, therefore making me cover for them. People say that they do the jobs Americans don't want. That's horse pucky. American's will work, or at least... they use to. Fix the border system so that we can make these people legal citizens in a more sufficient manner.

You're off base more than you think Tale
I'm a Democrat, and I'm here. I am trying to discuss these issues. I have valid and exacting questions. They are as I note, almost rhetorical. I think all of them have merit. None of them goes against Mike, nor his article.

You have been reading something else I wrote and are now feeding that perception into this thread. It's not the way I write. I write the truth, [of course some opinion as well]. But, when I know something, it's truth and all truth.

If I don't know, I'll let you know.

Responding to Kathryn's 10:53
No Kathryn, the 2-years-old is about three magnitude-orders EASIER to reason with than the groat.

Barack Obama Approved by Muslims

Muslims are most likely among some religious groups in the United States to approve of the job performance of President Barack Obama, according to a Gallup poll released today.

Swine Flu versus Homosexuality

If 3% of the residents of Washington D.C. had 'Swine Flu', there would be panic in the American Citizenry.

Why is there NO concern about this report?

17,550 cases of HIV/AIDS in Washington, DC.

"WASHINGTON (AP) — A new report by D.C. health officials says that at least 3 percent of residents in the nation's capital are living with HIV or AIDS and every mode of transmission is on the rise.

The findings in the 2008 epidemiology report by the D.C. HIV/AIDS Administration point to a severe epidemic that's impacting every race and sex across the population and neighborhoods.

Scheduled to be released Monday, the report says that the number of HIV and AIDS cases jumped 22 percent from the nearly 12,500 reported in 2006. Almost 1 in 10 residents between ages 40 and 49 are living with HIV, and black men had the highest infection rate at almost 7 percent.

The report says that the virus is most often transmitted by men having sex with men, followed by heterosexual transmission and injection drug use."

Nah Rick
I read you right
Unless one has not payed attention to the immigration issue for the last 8-9 years.

Starting with GW Bush and continues.
Has nothing to do with either party.
Our immigration laws are NOT being enforced.

We all know this is the problem

Closing the Border to what
OK we have this out break and people who are were already in favor of closing the border says lets close the border. Kind of like every time there is a gun murder the anto-gun folks say guns should be banned.

The problem is that if you close the border you have to close it to goods as well and that would be a disaster for both the US and Mexican Economies. You know all those factories that moved from the Northern states to right to work southern states to beat the unions. Well they moved again down further south to Mexico where workers are paid pennys and you don't have any pesky Osha regulations and child labor laws.

So you close the border and you can say good buy to a lot of products. Its not the liberals that are keeping the border open its the indutrialists and my guess is that most of those folks vote Republican.

liberals' stratagem for amnesty

The Chosen One/the Glowbama will press for Scamnesty shortly using the hackneyed, disingenuous line, "bringing people out of the shadows," partly under the guise of getting ILLEGALS to help fight drug cartels-- that is like treating the heart patient with an injection of cancer cells so he won't die of heart failure!

As a dedicated soldier in the fight to save America from myopic, beleaguered acceptance of the ILLEGAL invasion, I surely appreciate the frustration of the majority of Americans (70%+) with quisling politicians.

The left KNOWS that ILLEGALS will vote 95% for big entitlement guvment, which explains why the ObaMessiah has stopped construction of the border fence, which was well under way, and working.

HOWEVER, the fight is NOT lost!!!
We stopped Kennedy-McCain Scamnesty, then killed the disingenuous "Dream Act," a liberal gambit to give ILLEGALS a free community college education and thence a path to citizenship, and blue state N.Y. stanched the governor Spitzer's scheme to give ILLEGALS licenses, which 77% of Americans oppose per Rasmussen (because licenses are a step toward voting and scamnesty).

Join the fight, Middle America to save YOUR COUNTRY-- while we still have a little time!!!!!!!!

The BEST group to assist you is Numbers USA... several senators agreed that they were the group most responsible for stanching Kennedy-McCain Scamnesty:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/

They have targeted e-mails and messages for Congress, OR you can contact Congress directly at the official sites right here:

http://www.congressmerge.com/

BOOKMARK it, and rattle those cages in Congress often! Save YOUR country before it is too late! The left is resurrecting the Dream Act -- we need to kill it AGAIN.

Blue dog Çrats (e.g., Heath Shuler-- who sponsors the desirable SAVE Act) are already starting to resist the ObaMessiah and the hard left-- hope is NOT lost, BUT it WILL require dedication from Middle America!

Amnesty is the LAST thing we need !


http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1476.cfm

author:
James Jay Carafano, Ph.D., is Assistant Director of the Kathryn and Shelby Cullom Davis Institute for International Studies and Senior Research Fellow for National Security and Homeland Security in the Douglas and Sarah Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation.

excerpt:

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 legalized individuals who had resided unlawfully in the United States continuously for five years by granting temporary resident status adjustable to permanent residency. That law failed to curb the influx of illegal immigration. The lesson for Congress is that granting amnesty overwhelms subsequent efforts to enforce the law and create appropriate legal avenues for South-North migration.

Summary--

Stop the Insanity
The 1986 bill granted amnesty, then tried to enforce the law, and created a poor alternative to undocumented labor. It failed. The recent Kennedy-McCain bill follows exactly the same strategy. It would have failed as well.

Responsible reform legislation has to adopt a different course.

Congress must do three things:

1. Reject granting amnesty;
2. Enforce the law; and
3. Create a realistic, flexible, and practical temporary worker program as soon as possible.

Any proposed immigration reform that does not satisfy these three fundamental goals is as flawed as the 1986 law.

quality of life is important also


Various vacuous conservatives have brayed that as they flew over America they were amazed at how much land was available to develop.

Try telling that to residents in many areas with perpetual water shortages... or schools and social services overwhelmed and decimated by ILLEGAL alien invaders, and well-paying construction jobs lost to same amid rising unemployment. The desert southwest is becoming a garbage dump from ILLEGAL alien trash. And barrio blight pervades like a virulent cancer.

How much population is "too much"? And how much cultural and ethnic diversity is "an ample sufficiency"? America is already the most diverse nation on earth.

We are not just losing blue collar jobs to China and India due to outsourcing (where the libs certainly cannot tax them!), but M. Deities in India are reading medical data. Where are your annoying phone sales calls coming from now?

As for ILLEGAL ALIENS working here and milking social services (the Mexican guvment teaches them how to), that inures FAR MORE to THEIR benefit-- even before scamnesty eventuates to reward them for breaking our laws. ONLY the employer of ILLEGAL aliens benefits here-- he gets the gold mine-- the taxpayers and citizens get the shaft!

And what is it that we know better about not controlling immigration that has worked ANYWHERE else? Why do other nations shake their heads at our gullibility for tolerating ILLEGALS?

the ObaMessiah on enforcement
re:
"I await the day when President Obama decides that we just don't need any border patrol agents or law enforcement personnel along the border."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama: Immigration Agents are Terrorists

While speaking at the national convention of the National Council of La Raza (The Race):

“The system isn't working,” said Obama,"...when communities are terrorized by ICE immigration raids; when nursing mothers are torn from their babies; when children come home from school to find their parents missing; when people are detained without access to legal counsel.”

But Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are not out to terrorize anyone, ICE spokeswoman Pat Reilly told Cybercast News Service.

“Raids”– a term Reilly said she does not like – are not random, she said, but are operations that are always ordered by a federal judge or federal prosecutor through a warrant.

“Yes, they broke the law, and we should not excuse that,” Obama said. “But we cannot – and should not – deport 12 million people. That would turn America into something we're not, something we don't want to be.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=3 2364

Mike Gallagher: You said:
"If they won't close the border to keep a killer virus from entering the country, why would we expect them to try and stop drug cartels and drunk drivers and child molestors and other criminals from sneaking across the border and killing and maiming our people?"


You forgot the biggest group: FREELOADERS, BUMS, PARASITES

Too Late to Close Borders
Beginning with the amnesty program in 1986 and proposed "comprehensive immigration" today, it is simply too late to forestall the change happening in America. We have the administration, congress, big business and labor unions all supporting illegal entry into the U.S. and only a majority of the American people against it. Government for years has promised more and more entitlements to us and only asked in return, we leave decision-making up to them. We accepted, and today, we harvest the result of our capitulation. Screaming about it will not change any of this. It is too late to close the barn door.

deportation is a false choice problem


A popular straw man challenge proffered by the left, lawbreaking employers of ILLEGAL ALIENS, and ethnocentric Hispanic advocates is--> surely we cannot deport 12 million ILLEGAL aliens.

Actually, if the feds admit to 12 million, they KNOW that the REAL number is higher. In any case, we can get most of them to repatriate attritively simply by having the will to enforce EXISTING laws.

First, body slam the crooked pols who cater to them.

Second, insist that EXISTING laws be enforced: build the wall, crack down on employers, and stop the freebies to ILLEGALS, including tuition. No jobs, no freebies --> NO STAY!

Require proof of citizenship to function PERIOD-- citizens prove who we are CONSTANTLY for employment, travel, etc. Expired visas will not cut it! The possible threat of terrorism is yet another reason to require proof of a right to be residing in America.

No papers? Then NO job, NO apartment, NO drivers licenses, NO social services.

As Az. has done, kill bilingual education-- learn or return!

Revamp LEGAL immigration to emphasize education and skill sets-- just as responsible countries do.

NO PATHS TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS-- PERIOD! Let them go back and start from scratch-- most would not qualify to return!

Reinterpret the 14th as intended; just as children of diplomats born here are not citizens, ILLEGAL madres should not be able to push out excuses for family welfare.

A nation which loses its borders and sovereignty ceases to be a nation. America is too special to lose to an invasion of the willfully culturally disparate and ignorant indigent. We CANNOT be the welfare state for Latin America's socio-economic failures and plutocratic governments.

recent polling on ILLEGAL immigration...

...by the highly respected Rasmussen Report revealed these opinions about how Middle America views the ILLEGAL alien incursion (quoted verbatim):

* By a 63% to 28% margin, voters continue to believe it is more important to gain control of the border than to resolve the status of those who are already in the country ILLEGALLY.

* 73% say police should check to see if traffic violators are in the country illegally... 62% believe that such violators should then be deported.

* 77% of American adults do NOT think ILLEGAL immigrants should be allowed to receive a driver's license.

* Survey data have consistently shown that on immigration reform voters are PRIMARILY concerned with enforcing the border and reducing the future flow of ILLEGAL immigrants.

The "comprehensive" reform considered in the Senate last year was very unpopular precisely because voters did NOT believe it would reduce ILLEGAL immigration. (In fact, a plurality of voters thought the legislation would lead to an increase in ILLEGAL immigration).

More recently, voters opposed another Senate legislative proposal, the Dream Act (which would have given college tuition assistance to ILLEGALS, and then led to citizenship), and believed it would attract more ILLEGAL immigrants in the future.

Rasmussen Summary:
"Collectively, these data suggest that the desire of MOST Americans to gain control of the border is part of a broader desire to protect American culture."


Gallagher...you are right.
Since Obama's election it seems rather than bringing the country together, the division has widened. The left is more emboldened with attacks and epithets directed at anyone that disagrees or questions any of Obama's policies.

The insanity of leaving the border open in light of the cases of Swine flu originating there is just incomrehensible. President Obama in a speech addressing the issue said: "Closing the borders now would be like closing the barn door after the horse was already out". What???

Poor analogy President Obama. First off, we're talking about thousands coming across the border on a daily basis both legally and illegally. Possibly bringing new cases of the Swine flu, and enhancing the chances of it's spread.

Whether it's disagreeing with gay marriage(as with Miss USA), abortion, excessive spending...
you risk being labeled a right wing extremist or some such vile crearture.

Homeland Security now has a high alert and will(get this)profile conservative extremists for fear of them joining militias and staring an insurrection. Returning military personnel are especially targeted for monitoring.

Now don't forget, these are the same bleeding hearts who want the terrorists at Gitmo released and given legal councel. The very same that raise such a racous at tapping the phones of potential terrorists after 911. The same who ignore the real threat, Radical islam, which according to reprts has set up numerous jihadist training camos all across the nation.
But they are worried about American citizens whom happen to be conservative and stand up for traditional American values.

how ILLEGAL aliens see things

Below was a recent post here about how ILLEGAL aliens view their incursion into America, which has been aided and abetted by open border NAU quislings like Presidente Jorge Bush, Amnesty John McCain and the Chamber lobbies-- and by the big entitlement guvment voter-seeking left like the ObaMessiah:

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(post from a Mexifornia resident)

My Take-->

I have many Hispanic friends, and I speak enough Spanish to understand practically all of what I hear. This is what I have found:

Mexicans truly believe that California and much of the U.S. western states were wrongly taken from Mexico. This is THEIR land-- their ancestors were here first, and some can trace their ancestry back to before their land was taken away. Hence, the Reconquista (re-taking, or re-conquering) agenda.

Mexican ILLEGALS truly believe that the U.S. liberals stupidly passed the laws that give them all the freebies: free health care, zero will to enforce immigration laws (cannot ask a Hispanic person for immigration status), and others... and all those laws are there for them. If not for them, then why were they passed?!

The also know that their rate of having children is far greater than that of Anglos. They understand that it is only a matter of time before they become the majority of the voting populace because they are willing to have children.

the fool's gold illusion of cheap labor


re:
"Never turn your nose up at people who do menial labor. You'll miss them when they're gone."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Big parts of Europe got fat, dumb and happy, so they thought it might be just the thing to have Islamics come in-- but just to do the dirty work!

Now the much faster breeding Islamics will outnumber the native populations in a generation. That is NOT what the host nations intended, or even fathomed. They are enjoying riots and other plagues... and an interesting thing-- the most militant Islamics are often BORN in the new countries.

Sound familiar? Hitting close to home? Check out the foreign flags and signs in Espanol at May Day parades. Is May Day a big tradition in your household?

Comprende espanol? Well, better learn-- because the left plans to cram amnestia down your throats, and then bilingual requirements.

Why bother?
Neither Republican or Democratic parties really cared that the borders are still open. I hate to keep pushing this button, but it's VOTES, VOTES, VOTES!
And don't forget Bush's SPP with Mexico and Canada. Laugh if you will, but this is a preparing for the one world government and a North American Union is the preamble.
What this country needs is a Constitutionalist or a Republican like Ron Paul, but the Devil is in control for now and the basic American voter is falling right in line. They will keep putting these one worlders in Government. So why bother? The real Christian is in the minority now, but believe me they will have their day and until that day, let's just keep BOTHERING the Devil.

why the complicity by government...

...in aiding and abetting the ILLEGAL alien incursion, which ALSO allows would-be terrorists to traipse in posing as ILLEGALS?

Many have wondered why pols at all levels of govt. could so blatantly ignore the law and common sense to accommodate ILLEGALS (see sanctuary cities, support for scamnesty, etc.). The answers are: MONEY and power!

Here in Georgia, our 2 U.S. senators had been influenced by $ from miscreant employers of ILLEGAL aliens such as chicken pluckers and meat processors. Our senators had seemed to be riding the fence on the issue. They and others had listened to the artful and beguiling myths about ILLEGAL aliens, "simply doing jobs Americans would not do."

But myriad Georgians got engaged and made CLEAR that we did not like being the fastest-growing ILLEGAL alien state. We got our 2 U.S. Senators to vote against Kennedy-McCain scamnesty and the Dream Act (which would have rewarded college-age ILLEGALS with subsidized tuition and a path to citizenship).

We also got our state legislature to crack down on ILLEGALS pervading Ga. and plaguing her with social pathologies-- just like N.C., Ok, Az., Ms., Mo., and other states have had to do.

The best group to help YOU save YOUR country and YOUR state is NumbersUSA. Several honest U.S. Senators said that this group was most responsible for derailing Kennedy-McCain. BOOKMARK THEIR ADDRESS HERE:

http://www.numbersusa.com

They have all sorts of reference sources and prepared subject-specific, targeted e-mails for you to send to members of Congress.

You can also e-mail or call your reps in Congress right here at their official sites... tell them that you support the SAVE Act and oppose ANY attempts at scamnesty. Heck, contact lots of folks (not just your reps) in Congress!

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/issues.html

Get engaged, folks! America would be a TERRIBLE thing to lose! YOU can help save YOUR country!

The MOST "shovel-Ready" project
Is the Border Fence! It has been funded, approved, and has had lots of lobbyists screaming for it to proceed--for YEARS!
Do you really believe that lots of Americans wouldn't be eager to actually RELOCATE in order to get a job building the fence?
We have LOTS of eager out-of-work Americans (13 Million it's said) many of whom would put their shoulder to the wheel! Maybe we should demand that BO put some of that money to use for American jobs like he promised? (and secure the border to boot--kill two birds with one stone--how cost-efficient is that??)

a post from the war zone
(a recent cogent post here... slight edit)

O. Location: AZ

Date: Apr 14, 2009 - 6:45 PM EST

Battle for the Border
ILLEGAL aliens are NOT citizens, have broken our laws, many have committed felonies, and they should have no legal standing in our country whatsoever!

I'm getting tired of repeating myself but the recipe is: Secure the borders first, NO AMNESTY, and E-Verify will go a long way in resolving this mess.

The political fiddling around with securing the borders and other entry points is irresponsible to say the least, and if a major incident occurs there will be a monstrous backlash at the do-nothing politicos.

It’s a no-brainer: The borders and other entry points should have been iron-clad-secured a year after 911 even if it meant stationing the military at the borders, especially the Southern border, until the fence(s) is/are built. There is no excuse whatsoever for not doing this.

What’s dumb as dirt is sending our best in harm’s way in the armpit of the world that is the Middle East apart from a small special ops surgical strike of a very temporary nature to take out that Osama puke and his entourage. We the people better impose serious pressure and accountability on these unresponsive, irresponsible politicians of extremely dubious merit.

Every illegal alien has broken numerous laws, many felonies, and deserves to be pursued, detained, prosecuted, incarcerated, and deported…and not in a “five star guest” manner either. The way things are going is that the ILLEGAL ALIEN has as many rights if not more than the law-abiding citizen. RIDICULOUS and OUTRAGEOUS!

Mexico's # 1 export to the U.S.?

CRIME!

One of the most disingenuous ploys of their apologists is the mythology that ILLEGAL alien laborers are simply good, hard-working people just trying to get along and, "just doing those jobs Americans won't do"-- as if we only benefit from their being here.

First artful ruse debunked-- they DO DISPLACE Americans in decent-paying construction and food processing jobs that Americans will DEFINITELY DO.

By definition, ALL ILLEGALS who work here are committing identify fraud and usually also tax fraud at a minimum. As soon as they seek medical care and other social services, they are breaking the law again and further ravaging the taxpayers and citizens.

The correlation between Hispanic ILLEGALS and serious crimes is high-- about 3 times that of the native population, and drugs and gangs permeate with them like an insidious plague.

A key verity-- TRUE enforcement of EXISTING LAWS would go a long way to returning many ILLEGALS where they cannot commit crimes at the expense of American taxpayers.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51259
http://www.milnet.com/mex-nat.html
http://immigration.procon.org/
http://www.protectourusa.com/
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_ill egalsandcrime
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1738432/posts
http://www.newswithviews.com/Kouri/jim62.htm


logic vs fear
It does no good to close the border because the virus is inside our country, in people's bodies and in the air. In fact, there's evidence that the virus may have started in California. This is not a case of racism, but of allowing our emotions (fear) to drive us, instead of reason and logic.

Middle America must stand up
re:
"Now that Democrats are in charge in Washington, I guess it's futile to hope that anything is going to be done with the terrible problem of illegal immigration. If they won't close the border to keep a killer virus from entering the country, why would we expect them to try and stop drug cartels and drunk drivers and child molestors and other criminals from sneaking across the border and killing and maiming our people?"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Simply put, the substantial majority (70%+) in Middle America must make CLEAR that we will not tolerate any attempt at scamnesty.

* 89% of Americans think ILLEGAL immigration into the U.S. is a problem (30% "extremely serious," 33% "very serious," and 26% "somewhat serious." (Time Magazine, Jan. 2006)

* 82% think that not enough is being done along the borders to keep ILLEGAL aliens from crossing into the country. (New York Times/CBS May 2007)

* 68% feel that the number of immigrants who cross the border, whether legal or ILLEGAL is "too high". (Polling Company, Sept. 2006)

* 62% oppose making it easier for ILLEGAL aliens to become citizens of America. (Quinnipiac Univ., Feb. 2006)

*71% believe that ILLEGAL aliens should not qualify for in-state tuition rates at colleges and universities.

*77 % oppose making drivers' licenses available to ILLEGAL aliens.

*71% favor requiring foreign visitors to carry universal I.D. card

True
My dad used to say we would have a black President when "Pigs Fly" and today.........Swine Flu

Why Bother
I said that Nov 9, 2008. This admin & congress are out of touch and don't care what the citizens have to say. I'm tried. Why Bother!Oh, Mike, stop with the patients! It seems we need to be more impatient with these people!

ILLEGALS and social service decimation

In theory, it is ILLEGAL for ILLEGAL aliens to receive welfare per se. Still, they overwhelm hospitals and schools, and overburden the criminal justice system, and the federal govt. REQUIRES that local service providers assist them.

Then there is the issue of "anchor babies"... once an ILLEGAL muchacha can push one out on American soil, they can get into the welfare line; and the welfare workers are all too willing to explain how to milk the taxpayer gravy train.

ANY resident who is uneducated and poor inexorably becomes a welfare burden on average, partly because today's advanced service economy America cannot provide them upward mobility when all they have to offer is manual labor.

Heritage estimates that EACH household headed by the typical ignorant, indigent ILLEGAL alien will drain $1.4 MILLION more in govt. services than it ever pays in any form of taxes over a lifetime. This is aggravated further by clinging to a foreign language and culture.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/bg1936.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/SR14es.cfm
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigrati
on_american_infrastructure.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265 &q=immigration

As even a liberal sociologist admitted recently, future drains by current ILLEGALS will prove to be, "the mother of all unfunded mandates." The libs do not care about this; they know that current ILLEGALS mean future voters, and soon the permanent hegemony of the left as America morphs ineluctably into a third world welfare state.

Join the fight to stanch this catastrophe... please see my earlier posts below to see how YOU can easily get engaged. Time is CRITICAL! America is too precious to lose!

How much do ILLEGAL aliens cost us?

Notwithstanding fatuous claims that America truly benefits from the labor of ILLEGAL aliens (actually, only a comparative handful of miscreant employers do), there are myriad and snowballing direct costs of ILLEGAL aliens to contemplate...

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to ILLEGAL aliens each year by state governments.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for ILLEGAL aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for ILLEGAL aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here ILLEGALLY
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of ILLEGAL aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate ILLEGAL aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are ILLEGAL aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.htmlG ALS

How much do ILLEGALS cost us? (Part. II)

(stunning inconvenient truths)

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on ILLEGAL aliens for welfare & social services by American taxpayers.

http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by ILLEGAL aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. ILLEGAL aliens in the United States have a crime rate that is 2.5 times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to create a huge additional crime problem in the U.S.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were millions of ILLEGAL aliens that crossed our southern border including as many as 19,500 ILLEGAL aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border.

Source--> Homeland Security Report...
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.

http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

http://www.rense.co m/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."

http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

Does it STILL sound like "cheap" labor to you?

a recent post here
(slight edit)

stilla

Location: FL

How it started with Blacks was the same misguided thinking: It's not the fault of the children. They didn't ask to be born. Therefore, we must give "the children" food stamps, housing, free medical care, busing to schools across town, and all the other freebies of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

Women had more babies to get more welfare, no incentive to marry the father or to get a job. They sat on the front porch all day while their kids from the hood preyed upon the law-abiding, at school and after school. I dismissed all those those observations as racist and ignorant until I lived in the historic section of a large southern city. Theft and muggings daily. Saw it; experienced it.

Now we are making the SAME mistakes with ILLEGAL Hispanics. In that population there is a high incidence of domestic violence, alcoholism and DUI, trash thrown around the yards, low riders cruising around with gang bangers, whole areas of cities off-limits to non-Hispanics.

ILLEGALS are costing us FAR more than they contribute economically-- in bi-lingual education, incarceration, social services, welfare--- now they must not be given "a path to citizenship"?!

If they have to "live in the shadows," so be it. But I believe I saw a million of them on TV marching with Mexican flags, so they can't be too intimidated about their ILLEGAL status.

They will ALWAYS vote for liberal Democrats.

Napolitano accepts being ILLEGAL?!
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/napolitano_illegals_crim e/2009/04/22/205948.html?s=al&promo_code=7E6E-1

Our woman in charge of enforcing the border does not consider it really a crime to jump same and work here ILLEGALLY (though that requires identity and document fraud, and often identity theft and tax fraud)-- swell!

"Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano stunned many listeners during an appearance on CNN when she asserted that ILLEGAL immigration is really not a crime"

Liberals only fathom that they see crimes when it suits their ends-- such as possessing guns. Over 90% of serious crimes are committed by the same repeat offenders who represent less than 10% of those ever imprisoned... yet the libs on parole boards insist upon letting them (the most dangerous of the inmates) out also, even as liberals see availability of guns as the real problem. Hmmm.

And those Mexican drug lords would not be killing thousands if WE did not sell them guns-- never mind that thy can get guns all over the place.

Similarly, ILLEGAL aliens are about 3x as likely to commit serious crimes as the general population, but especially in "sanctuary cities" they are often simply turned loose.

Yessir-- change we can believe in!

CLOSE THE %^& BORDER
Would any prudent person fail to patch a small leak in their roof because it only resulted in minor damage? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure the damage would only be more severe if action is not taken.

That brings up the question, what idiotic logic would lead the “experts” to claim that closing the border would not diminish the spread of the Swine Flu? You can draw your own conclusions but mine is the lack of a decision to close the border is political not based on science. As I recall the principle for growth and decay was extensively covered in (1950) high school biology.

It appears that there may not be a need for panic but closing the border would not only be advisable but it would cost far less that the $1.5 Billion that’s been reserved for treating those infected.

AIN’T GOVERNMENT GREAT?

swine flu
One thing I do not understand about this swine flu issue is the incredible rush to panic mode . Did anyone stop to ask about the health or living conditions of the reported swine flu related casualties in Mexico before hitting the red crisis button? I just don't see how so few cases constitute near pandemic status. Must everything be a crisis? Doctors in AZ are saying it is treatable, and not as threatening as originally reported. Perhaps the living conditions have a good deal to do with that comment.

I agree we need to stop illegal crossing of our borders, unlike our former governor. At least, as Sec'y of Homeland Security, she is coming under a much brighter spotlight for her lack of actual protection of our borders. How she got the position is beyond me and many of us in Arizona.

Good article. We aren't racists. Just logical people trying to do what is best given the information available.

Thank you for the opportunity to give my opinion.

Illegals
Nobody from the left seems to care when illegas ruin the lives of good American citizens in cities like SF. I think it is terrible when the children of an armed robber come home and their Dad/Mom is no longer there. Another family ripped apart because a parent committed a crime. Where is the support for the families of armed robbers? At least the illegas can take their families to Mexico where they all belong in the 1st place. Do not give up. Amnesty will RUIN this country. Period! Please, Do not forget chain migration which essentially means whatever # is allowed to stay it will at least double in 5 years meaning the complete end and ruination of America. That will mean 50% of US taxpayers (watch your taxes dramitically increase as your standard of living drops) supporting at least the other 50% of low wage (Mexicans with large families))workers who will pay little or no taxes. Is that what America really wants as they overwhelm and destroy our public schools

Apigolypse now
This whole swine flu thing is obviously the the result of all the pork in our bloated budget

I DON'T CARE IF I AM CALLED A RACIST...!
I really don't! We are being invaded by another country and the toll they are taking on our economy can cause us to become the same 3rd world rat hole these Mexicans have escaped from. They are bankrupting our hospitals and schools, forcing lower wages for American citizens and they have no loyalty to this country. Most of them don't even bother to learn English and have even insulted this country by hoisting their Mexican flag. Many have committed unspeakable crimes against the TAXPAYERS who pay for their kids health care and education. The victims of crime are into the hundreds of thousands. Orphaned children, raped women, grieving parents. So, go ahead and call me anything you like. Just get the hell out of my country and come in the front door!!

WOW!
Peggy:

If I were not married I would propose, you are my kind of gal.......

Public Housing in Washington state
In Washington state or just King County in order to live on the taxpayers dime getting free indoor plumbing, free garbage removal, free sewar, free parking you do not have to be American, you only have to be eligible.

As a single mother on disablity I have gotten used to being called a racist. My neighbors some who have been in America up to 20 years and won't learn the language call me a racist for asking them to speak English, don't be such a racist..really? Well if that makes me a racist and all you are going to do is call me names bring it on.

Immigrants who come and call American's the n word not neighbor that racist slur.

I am beginning to embrace being a racist, ye haw..bring it on. If loving my country and speaking English makes me a racist...bring it on. My name is Terri and I am a America loving racist..welcome to America Anonymous...how to save our country one person at a time.


Why Bother? Here's Why
Posted this six months ago; notice my warning about epidemics: Enlightened conservatives have been speaking to this issue for years, mostly to deaf ears. Illegal immigration is a HUGE fiscal burden on the Nation and that does not include all the other issues like the wide and disproportionate array of crimes committed. From jobs being taken away, to money being exported to their home country, to heavy reliance on social services like hospitals (e.g., lot of babies delivered at taxpayers’ expense), to subsidized education, to translation services, to free legal representation, to the costs associated with crime like more police presence, ID theft and false ID fabrication (forgery), vagrancy, drug running and distribution, near total disregard for traffic laws, kidnappings, rapes, thefts, assaults, muggings, murders, and on and on. They are serial scofflaws at the very least and criminals as a norm. Their moral code is certainly not compatible with ours. Just the fact that they come here to have "anchor babies" is more exploitation of our laws, one that should be changed pronto! Add to all that is the danger of spreading communicable diseases. This is not to be taken lightly as an epidemic can be devastating as well as costly. The collective costs to society are mind boggling but their everyday behavior is also objectionable. They make no effort to learn English, have no sense of hygiene standards like not spewing their garbage all over the place, and they generally have a thug’s mentality. You get the sense that these people are here to invade the country and they are quietly fulminating that they can’t rob, rape, and pillage at will as if it was their due. Our legal system was not designed to address this kind of assault on the Nation. We must deal with this situation with real resolve; “take the kid gloves off”. Mexico must also take responsibility for the exodus and take appropriate measures.

amnesty= 100 million over 20 years
re:
"Amnesty will RUIN this country. Period!

Please, Do not forget chain migration which essentially means whatever # is allowed to stay it will at least double in 5 years meaning the complete end and ruination of America.

That will mean 50% of US taxpayers (watch your taxes dramatically increase as your standard of living drops) supporting at least the other 50% of low wage (Mexicans with large families) workers who will pay little or no taxes. Is that what America really wants as they overwhelm and destroy our public schools?"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The highly respected Heritage Foundation calculates that amnestia for 12 million will mean 100 million new mostly poor and largely ignorant over 20 years:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm

The effects would be DEVASTATING socio-economically and IRREVERSIBLE-- good-bye America:


http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1490.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/SR14es.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/bg1936.cfm



weighing offenses

re:
"I personally think entering this country illegally is approximately as serious a crime as doing 70 in a 55 mph zone. They should be given a ticket, preferably printed on a piece of green cardboard."

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A majority of those here ILLEGALLY must work to get along, and all who seek social services are soon committing felonies-- identity fraud, tax dodging, etc.

We send CITIZENS who are caught for such things to jail, yet apologia for ILLEGAL aliens suggests we should cut them slack because, "they are just trying to feed their families doing jobs Americans won't do."

Blowing off being ILLEGAL as tantamount only to exceeding the speed limit or jaywalking is like equating breaking and entering and robbing your home to an overzealous, unexpected guest.

Yet it is often proven that when ILLEGALS are bagged by show raids that the jobs are quickly refilled by citizens-- often the ones previously displaced so the employer could "save" some $.

And who will reimburse CITIZENS and TAXPAYERS for the staggering costs that ILLEGALS foist upon them?!

ILLEGALS work mainly in 4 areas (construction, landscape, hospitality, restaurant) where conversation is not essential, but they predominate in NONE of those. However, they DO predominate in tendency toward social pathologies-- crime, drugs, gangs, illegitimacy's, barrio blight. Such a deal!

No other country is as diverse as we already, and NONE tolerates such an invasion of ILLEGALS. Much of Europe now regrets importing the culturally disparate (Islamic laborers) to do its meaner jobs... they will be majority Islamic all too soon.

Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to relive them. America would be a terrible thing to lose... it is ineluctably in jeopardy from the ILLEGAL alien incursion.

help stop the REAL threat to...

...America--> the ILLEGAL alien incursion

Even as Mexican drug cartels are spreading their virulent violence over here, and ILLEGAL alien labor continues pirating jobs that Americans will DEFINITELY do, and decimating American social services (schools, hospitals, anchor baby welfare), the ObaMessiah and the left have stopped construction of the border fence. Guess why?!

Because those are future big entitlement government 'Çrat voters crashing the border!

While America needs SOME educated, skilled LEGAL immigrant labor, the so-called "cheap" labor (the largely ignorant, indigent ILLEGAL aliens) are REALLY egregiously expensive all-in to America.

Your hotel room, produce and Tyson Chicken are no cheaper to YOU, but YOU get stuck with the tab for the myriad social services they will prey upon and the pandemic social pathologies (crimes, barrio blight, drugs, gangs, illegitimacy's, dropouts, cultural disparateness) they pervade like a scourge of locusts.

Get engaged, folks!!! Insist that Congress require E-verify and pass the SAVE Act. You can EASILY reach them at their official sites right here:

http://www.congressmerge.com/

BOOKMARK it and contact them OFTEN! They love hearing from you!

The SAVE Act was introduced by Democrat Heath Shuler... it merits your support:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/enforcement/workplace-ver ification.html
http://proprietornation.blogspot.com/2007/10/save-act-follo w-up.html
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/issues.html
http://www.house.gov/list/speech/ca50_bilbray/March_14_2008 _Washington_Times_Save_the_SAVE_Act.html

*Why immigrants have become unwelcome *

... by Rosemary LaBonte.

In 1900 European immigrants flooded into the US. They stood in long lines at Ellis Island to be documented. They pledged to uphold the laws and support their new country. They made learning English and securing employment a
priority. Some even changed names to better assimilate.

They said good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and helped them assimilate. Nothing was handed to them: No free lunches, no welfare, and no labor laws to protect them. All they had were their skills to trade for a future of prosperity.

Most of their children came of age during World War II. My father fought with men whose parents were immigrants. None of these 1st generation Americans cared where their parents came from. They were defending America as one people.

When we liberated France, no one there looked for the French, German or Irish-American. The French saw only AMERICANS. We carried one flag, representing one country.

None of those immigrant sons waved another country's flag to show their identity. It would have disgraced their parents who sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants knew what it meant to be
an AMERICAN.

Now we have a new kind of immigrant wanting the same rights and privileges, BUT with different rules which include entitlement and foreign allegiances. That's not what being an American is about. Many don't bother with rules and enter ILLEGALLY.

Immigrants of the early 1900's deserve better for all the hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those Legally searching for a better life and willing to assimilate. They would be appalled that they are being used as examples by those waving foreign flags.

even as we write here...
...Congress is holding hearings to work toward a path to scamnesty which has been rejected several times over the past couple of years depite HUGE lobbying by the Conspiracy Of Evil (see post to follow).

Here is the actual committee in the Senate NOW holding hearings... you can contact them EASILY by phone, e-mail, etc., at their official contact sites shown just below:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/cgi-bin/newcommittee. cgi?site=congressmerge&lang=&commcode=sjudiciary_immigratio n

Find your Senators and Congressmen (and others)... BOOKMARK IT! :

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

Tell them that you oppose any semblance of amnesty...that you support the SAVE Act... that there should be NO connection between working here ILLEGALLY and a path to citizenship...that it is CRIMINAL to speak of a path to citizenship even as 10% of Americans are unemployed...

And these are the WRONG type of immigrants (poor and ignorant... future social service dependents) for today's advanced service economy in America. We need SOME of the educated and skilled, BUT they should come here LEGALLY.

The Conspiracy of Evil

The biggest challenge to stopping ILLEGAL aliens is that the money and organization (hence power) is mainly on the pro-ILLEGAL side. The pro-ILLEGAL forces include an unlikely, strange bedfellow alliance between groups which want to USE them in different ways--> the Conspiracy Of Evil.

Miscreant employers obviously simply want to exploit their labor-- never mind the myriad, egregious socio-economic problems they foist on America... hence, their all-in costs to society are immense and snowballing. Furthermore, the "savings" to miscreant employers are pocketed by them --> your hotel room or head of lettuce is NO cheaper to YOU.

The PC left wants to get ILLEGALS voting and seize permanent control for leftist "elites" via yet more inexorable big entitlement government... power flows to statist 'Crats/the left when YOUR tax $ flows to Washington. Try to find a liberal who does not really favor scamnesty, while feigning talk about enforcement first.

The scandal-plagued Catholic Church needs replacement bodies for the pews; and ILLEGALS can put more in the collection plates in America than in Mexico... the Church still has mega-millions to pay out for priest perversion (after deciding to forgive each priest one act of perversion-- Jesus!):

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/15/local/me-priests15

Ethnocentric Hispanic groups really do want an effective Reconquista, so they hide behind claims of racism and pleas for PC multiculturalism and one world, NWO kumbaya.

http://www.illegalaliens.us/aztlan.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/mexico_immigration/2007/09 /28/36496.html?s=al&promo_code=3A98-1
http://www.libertygunrights.com/NAUFactSheet.pdf

Finally, the remote elites, including the liberal MSM, do not see what all the fuss is about. Besides, they LIKE their cheap ILLEGAL maids and yard-workers, and THEIR children will not have to go to schools enervated by "those people."

Tolerance
My guess is that Mexico wouldn't think twice about closing their border to Americans if we were responsible for some terrible disease that threatened the Mexican people. Granted, we provide a lot of tourism income for them, but I am guessing the health and welfare of their people would be a priority, at least in the short term. Obviously their standards are already higher than ours in terms of immigration- good like just smuggling yourself into Mexico and trying to assimilate into the population (without having to jump through a bunch of fiery hoops) and living happily ever after- you would probably find yourself in a Mexican prison, forgotten about and perhaps enjoying a little waterboarding!

Funny guy, MUST read!
Read this guy, as he gets it! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com No apologies, just the roasting of liberals, in a satirical and witty way!
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