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Friday, May 30, 2008
Mike Gallagher :: Townhall.com Columnist
John McCain Finds His Voice
by Mike Gallagher
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It was a pretty eventful week in the world of all things political. And as expected, the mainstream news media honed in on the wrong story. Instead of amplifying an astounding example of one of the key differences between John McCain and Barack Obama, the press, ever hungry for anything that can be used to smear President Bush, went bonkers over a dullard named Scott McClellan who happens to be a former White House press secretary.

It seems that Mr. McClellan, bitter over being pushed out of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., decided to write a "Mommie Dearest" - type tell-all that suggests that George W. Bush deceived everyone over the reasons for going to war in Iraq. His book is like a tall, cold glass of water for a news media stumbling around in the hot desert trying to find reasons to humiliate our commander-in-chief.

Small wonder that McClellan's first cable TV interview will be conducted by that rabid liberal doofus, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC. Watching those two gab about that meanie President Bush will be torture for the several dozen people who actually tune in.

I often wonder if people like Scott McClellan ever stop and think about the pain and grief their money-grubbing antics cause the families of the brave men and women who are serving their country overseas. After all, if one accepts the premise that President Bush erred in going to war, then the mission of the United States military is absolutely in vain. Perhaps when McClellan cashes his hefty paychecks, he'll be like Ebeneezer Scrooge seeing the face of Marley on the door post and see the pained faces of men and women who simply cannot understand why a man like him would want to publish an anti-war book smack dab in the middle of a war.

Do you suppose Osama bin Laden will read McClellan's book? If he does, he's sure to enjoy it.

Meanwhile, as the lap dog news media has been propping Scott McClellan up on a pedestal, a remarkable thing happened in the inevitable presidential race between Sen. John McCain and Sen. Barack Obama. McCain called Obama out in a way that I don't know that I've ever seen before.

Sen. McCain did something brilliant this week. He pointed out that while he has repeatedly visited Iraq, Sen. Obama hasn't bothered to go in over two years.

Two years.

So while the junior lightweight senator from Illinois has been railing against the war, he hasn't even made the effort to go to Iraq to see for himself what is actually happening on the ground.

It's pretty difficult to find anyone with a shred of knowledge of the military surge who would suggest that it hasn't been an extraordinary success. I frequently interview Gen. Rick Lynch on my radio show, the commander of the 20,000 troops who have constituted the much-discussed "surge." He proudly recites the names of neighborhood after neighborhood that he now walks through without any bulletproof gear, neighborhoods that were hotbeds of violence and insurgency just a year ago. And he shares the countless stories of soldiers under his command who are so proud of their effort to install democracy in a troubled region of the world and advance the process of turning the security of Iraq over to the Iraqi people.

In other words, the men and women fighting the good fight understand why they are there and how much success is being achieved in what is an amazingly difficult mission.

Barack Obama does not.

Sen. McCain knocked it out of the park when he publicly invited Barack Obama to join him during one of his many visits to Iraq. I can picture it now: Sen. McCain showing Sen. Obama the ropes, saying things like, "Now that's what we call a Marine" and "See, young man, that's a tank." And so on.

For obvious reasons, the Obama camp declined McCain's offer, calling it a "cheap publicity stunt."

But there's no stunt behind the expectation that Obama should be wanting to go to Iraq. He owes it to the American people to have a detailed, private, thorough conversation with Gen. Petraeus. One would think he would be seeking answers and finding out for himself just how much progress we're making there.

But of course that doesn't fit into his stated goal of declaring the U.S. the loser and pulling all the troops out should he be elected. He would find the Rev. Jeremiah Wright scandal a cakewalk compared to trying to explain to the American people why he's so hellbent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Perhaps he figures if he sticks his head in the sand long enough and pretends not to hear all the stories of the successful surge, it'll all go away and he can still wave the white flag of surrender to the terrorists, inviting them to return to the United States and make 9/11 look like a minor blip.

If John McCain continues to remind voters the difference between the two men in this way, he'll win.

Because this week, while a scoundrel like Scott McClellan enjoyed his newfound fame, Sen. McCain found his voice in this presidential campaign.

If the American people are paying attention, there may be hope for this country yet.

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Unfortunately, it's the same voice

calling for amnesty for illegal aliens, "cap-and-trade" Draconian regulations that will crush the American economy, a foreign/defense policy that sounds like it was crafted by Kerry in which foreign nations must be "consulted" (read "appeased"), and other liberal policies.

Frankly, McCain and Joe Lieberman are virtually twins, and as far as I can tell McCain and Obama differ only on the Iraq War.

No sale, Gallagher.

Falling on Deaf Ears
As Brian(above put it so well) McCain only has the War in Iraq to lure conservatives to vote for him rather than the frightening democrats. We have heard his liberal proposals on other issues and he will hear us in the coming election.

Obama political tactics
Obama would not have make it till here .If Rev. Wright tapes were released before the initial presidential nomination debates... He lost in PA and INDIANA mainly cause of this issue. I wonder his credibility as why he wants to pull out troops out of iraq (when he never been to Iraq/spoke to generals) and why he wants to talk to Irans A'jihad.

John McCain on other hand was POW and has experience in politics. I wonder Obama credibility , when he said about his Grand Mother as 'typical' or denied knowing about- controversial speeches made by his pastor.

I dont believe the S.Fransisco guy

McClellan
My problem with him is that, despite the obvious truth of the assertions and accounts in his new book, he never bothered to just strap on a set and give it to us during one of his inane press conferences. Incidentally Gallagher (watermelon boy), the really embarrassing thing for the neocons is that McClellan was not "pushed out" of the White House - nice spin.

As for McCain "finding a voice"...uhhh, nice try. No one is buying your line of fecal matter.

Well NGTTY
while you may think your post has "strapped on a set," you might want to put something between your shoulders and say something substantive.

1. Why do you think OB has not gone to Iraq? Or, does that matter if you want to be POTUS
2. Since you know McClellan was not "pushed out" give us the real inside scoop that you must know.
3. Why do you assume that McClellan's assertions are "the obvious truth?" Or, is that the "truth" you want to hear along with all the MSM?
Can we have some substance from GA?

good question
"I often wonder if people like Scott McClellan ever stop and think about the pain and grief their money-grubbing antics cause the families of the brave men and women who are serving their country overseas."

Good question. How much pain and grief do you reckon it causes? Almost as much as a bullet? Worse than a bullet? Depends on where the bullet hits?

The McCain strategy was
brilliant. As I said the other day, obama would look like a child on a field trip with his daddy gawking at the military goodies about which he is woefully ignorant, CinC? I think not.

It also puts him and the dems on the spot, tough to call for a surrender when your eyes have seen the success of the tactics recommended by the man whose leading you around on the tour and executed so brilliantly by the troopers under the command of Gen Petreaus.

Obambi is a loser and the dems are saddled with this albatross because of their own stupid rules.
Delicious.

As for McClellen, he is nothing but a dog in the manger, Bush brought him up from Tx and gave him a choice job. If he had something to say, he should have said it at the time, he put his job ahead of his patriotism and now bites the hand that fed him, a despicible little worm with no character whatsoever.

It's the only difference...
A couple of trips to Iraq are the only thing that differs between these two candidates.

how about that
you got the "in vain" thing perfect. i really was surprised. never expected it aand i had almost t stopped reading your column, about ready to assign it to the "junk heap of history of journalism where it and most all your compatriots writings have already gone" when i spied a glow coming off the page. i have only seen this glow surrounding a phrase or a word two or three time in all the time ive been reading these columsit is gods way of telling me that something is coming up in my reading which is the truth and dont miss it. son of a gun---there it was agin and he hit the nail, on the head. who said god doesnt know the truth from shinola?

Scotty & Mack
Why wasn't lil' Scotty "pushed out" before he was even MADE Press Sec'y? If you will recall, he as an underling was sent out to float the idea that Pres. Bush would be willing to sign an "assault weapons ban" renewal if Congress would send him one, thus yet again stabbing Bush's base in the back. (Congress didn't go for it, for once. They learned a lesson, hmmm?) Not 2 weeks later Scottie got the PS post.

In a DTOM administration, McClellan would have been gone by sunset, if he'd dared suggest renewing one of the most pointless gun control laws in history. If Scottie bothers him now, Bush has no one to blame but himself.

As to Mack "finding his voice" well it's too late baby well it's too late. Anybody who will lead a direct assault on freedom of speech, open the borders wide to illegals while wagging his finger at the dismayed base, propose energy rationing for its own sake, & help block good judicial appointments, has no more credibility than Waco Willie.

The gun issue of the 1990's IMO does illustrate that the GOP will respond to the base if the base gives them enough hard swift kicks. This latest cycle has been GOP v. conservatism, & conservatism better fight brack, Obama be darned. Quite frankly, I think the treachery is too deeply rooted in the GOP to excise, & we simply need another party to call home.

Candidates’ earmarkers

Does it matter who wins?

THE HILL-Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) have taken strong stands against earmarks in an effort to portray themselves as fiscally responsible reformers, but they have also relied on fundraisers and advisers who have fueled the explosion in special spending projects.

At least 19 of McCain’s biggest fundraisers have lobbied on appropriations bills in the past year and a half. Many of them have tried to steer funds to colleges, municipalities and companies that have hired them, according to public records.

At least three of Obama’s biggest funders have lobbied on spending bills, and one, Alan Solomont, lobbied for an appropriation to the Boston Medical Center as recently as 2006. Solomont has since stopped lobbying.

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Shooting The Messenger, Again
Uh, are you saying that Jorge Bush brought McClellan in to be his parrot -- but didn't permit him to be involved in meetings where he could hear the real stuff. Yes, Mc is a scoundrel but the significant part of his story is the "confirmation" of the George Soros version of the Iraq invasion, without provocation. The war was not about WMD, it is about OIL and always has been. Do you think the Saudis wanted Saddam to walk all over them? Do I believe Mc's story? Yes, in part, because Jorge is a dimwit -- voted for him twice which makes me a double dimwit. If Mc is so bad why did Jorge select him as the parrot, or do we blame Cheney or Rove. Another Jorge selection, Gutierrez, Secy. of Commerce took a laptop to China and permitted it to be copied -- sorta like Klintoon giving away secrets to China. Guess its that Jorge magic touch that turns to excrement.

Avast there, One and All!
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Come on by, ye landlubbers and sailors all, and read a tale of American heroism.

Mike has been transformed...
Sorry Mike, but McCain hasn't found any voice that I want to listen to. Amnesty was a deal killer on its own, but jumping onto the global warming hysteria mix is over the top.

Funny, but I now think that Hillary is a stronger candidate than McCain.

Good Answer #7 (Seawaif)
Obama is too much of a chicken to go into Iraq now.

McCain has been there 5 times now and continues to plan on going again in support of our troops.

There is a HUGE difference between McCain and Obama, McCain believes in the Constitution and if any of you who think Obama does is only hidding their head in the sand and cannot give up their goodies this bunch of Democrats give them. It is so sad when so many depend on the government hand outs and not on themselves.

I pray for your self respect to return some day and see the light so that your next generation can defend this great country against communisum.

Joy


Wonderful RINOgram

Mr. Mike Gallagher has written a wonderful RINOgram.

I agree with Joy and Seawolf, that Obama is a Loser and a Communist.

I agree that Scott McClellan is a Lying treacherous Weasel.

I don't agree that McCain is any better than Obama or McClellen.

He is a Lying Treacherous Liberal!

He doesn't believe in the Constitution…He trampled all over it with McCain-Feingold.

He is all too happy to kill Arabs and Persians to save America, so he can give it away to Central and South America.

He is far too happy to make deals with the Democrats and the Liberals at the United Nations.

If the GOP wants to become the Liberal-Lite party, that's fine with me!

But, I will NEVER vote for a Lying Liberal, Regardless what Logo is by his name.

Re: Selling his soul for $$$
When a person writes a book like Scott McClellan did he sold his soul for a Million dollars that tells what his character is like and it's really low and scum like!! He was fired and it's somewhat typical to have sour grapes but not for Bush I'm hurt for our great and brave men and women who provide us with freedom and the same freedom for McClellan to be a jerk.I have 2 nephews both Marines stationed in Iraq and those type of people make it more dangerous for our troops. Thanks all I had to say. Nancy

Where does he get his info?
Two years is a very long time. I have been heard that BO has not even set down with the generals fighting are in Iraq. Where does BO get his information about Iraq being a total failure? It sounds as if he gets his information from the MSM. If this is true then it brings into question his lack of judgment. He is willing to sit down with terrorist yet; he will not talk to the generals fighting a war in Iraq. Poor judgment for the young senator.

McAmnesty
I remember Sean Hannity's interview with McAmnesty wherein he said he had heard the voice of the people on open borders and that one of the first things he would do would be to close our borders. Yesterday I received a 2 page letter from McCain asking for donations and stating the differences between Billary, Obama and McCain - NOT ONCE did he mention the illegal immigrant problem, closing borders or not pushing forth his amnesty once more. We are in a recession - yet, we the taxpayers in this country paid out over 349 BILLION dollars last year in support of illegals! Over 9 million citizens have lost jobs to illegal cheap labor. Politicans wants the votes - or the dollars from big business! Why do I want to vote for a President who will not uphold the law? Crossing our borders illegal IS AGAINST THE LAW!

Actually, this is the second brilliant
idea to come out of McCain in recent weeks. He has already stated that both Nobama and Hillary are "out of touch" in wanting to raise taxes. That is good news to any taxpayer's ears. Give him time. He's going to surprise many of us, myself included.

Who would we be safer with?
The past several presidental elections I have asked myself who I would feel safer with as President. When I look at McCain and Obama that choice is easy. McCain will keep our military stronger and he will not meet with countries supporting terrorists without preconditions. That is the deal breaker for me.
Obama's worldview frightens me.


Big Deal
I find it laughable that you could actually give McCain credit for something so trivial. He is poison!

Reality
1: McCain is the nominee of the Republicans

2: Either Obama or Clinton will be the nominee of the Democrats
3:If ANY of you really think that Obama or Clinton will be better for the country than McCain, you are seriously out of your minds! We have 15 years of history on Clinton, Obama: we will find out more about who he really is.

4: Obama/Clinton; you KNOW neither will listen to us after the election. McCain; maybe. That makes it an easy call in and of itself.

5: Third parties will not win!

In the real world, you have to make a choice. No vote is a wimp's choice.

Live in the world as it actually is. Only 7th graders, and adult 7th graders refuse to recognize the world as it is.

Sorry, but that is life. Get on with it. Stop acting like the mirror image of the wacko left Demos. That is EXACTLY what some of you look like right now!



Ignore the press
and keep pounding out the message on the progress in Iraq,McCain is good at ignoring folks, look how he turns a deaf ear to conservatives on the issues we hold near and dear. Hello John it's me a conservative and I have something to say! See he's not listening.

McClellan and McCain--Both Scoundrels
McClellan is a McCain but without the military service. McCain cares more for Dr. Senor Smilin' Juan Hernandez than he cares for the conservatives. He has yet to "reach out" to conservatives which is why so many of us simply will NOT vote for him in November.

A world view
Mr. Obama:
Believes the US should tithe an additional % of our GDP as a tax to the UN to fight global poverty.

Wants to reduce our military. Thinks NATO would suffice for defense if we needed it.

Wants our youth to serve-not the US necessarily, but the world, by going in the Peace Corps and an expanded world service organization that he would start.

Wants judges who will use 'their own conscience' to make rulings, not necessarily an 'outdated piece of paper' (the constitution).

Wants to listen to world opinion about what kinds of cars we should drive. Not the free market.

Thinks Mahmoud and Hugo have a point when they chant death to America. Would like to be in good standing with them.

He is a "We are the World" idealist. That's fine, but not for a President of the UNited States, who must (for the world's sake) put America first in all things. No exceptions.

tkdblk:
I guess I'm a wimp because I will not vote for McCain. It may be better to let Obama have it for 4 years.

No Enforcement/No Votes

John McCain has not changed his mind about "Comprehensive Immigration Reform", amnesty, at all.

http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/03/28/b loggers_press_mccain_adviser_on_immigration
“John McCain’s position on immigration is very clear and this a question that gets asked at townhall appearances everyday in media appearances and has answered the question at least a thousand times before the New Hampshire primary,” Schmidt said.

He explained, “Any person who supports John McCain’s campaigns is a subscriber to John McCain’s views"

A vote for McCain is a vote for surrender of your country.

Your vote for McCain will be used as proof that you want amnesty.



Many of us see another amnesty as the end of the Republic, the stampede it will set off will be overwhelming. If we don't stop the inundation none of the rest matters. We'll be a banana republic before the jihadis can get us. There will never be another GOP president or Congressional majority. Importing voters for the socialists is as stupid as it gets.


McCain keeps saying "Secure the border first". We know that he means amnesty next. The plan is to get the border state Gov's to declare the border secure. Conveniently, they are all on board the cheap labor express. Then his good friend Ted Kennedy will bring back McCain/Kennedy and McCain can provide his good friends across the aisle with their new permanent majority.

I will not vote for amnesty.

CONSERVATIVES BEST HOPE IS 2012

.....Conservatives can write off 2008 no matter who wins ....

.....Conservatives need to find a leader that they can rally around to support in 2012 ...

.....They are out there ...Paulin from Alaska. Inhofe from Okla, Pense from Indiana, Jindal of La ...Conservatives need to promote a Leader and then support him/her in the Primaries ...

.....In 2008 the only GOP candidates with National name recognition were Giuliani and McCain ...there is still hope for 2012 but a true Leader must be annointed ...we tried to annoint Newt and Fred but Newt wimped out and Fred came in to shill for McCain ...the next four years are really going to be interesting .....COLOSSUS

tkdblk - RINO Reality

"McCain is the nominee of the Republicans."

Reply: Which has become the Liberal-Lite Party.

"If ANY of you really think that Obama or Clinton will be better for the country than McCain, you are seriously out of your minds!"

Reply: Just call me Crazy!

"Third parties will not win!"

Reply: If the GOP continues it's transformation into the Liberal Lite Party, the GOP will fail and a New "Conservative" Party will take it's place.

"In the real world, you have to make a choice. No vote is a wimp's choice!"

Reply:
A vote for McCain is a vote for Open Borders.
A vote for McCain is a Vote for Carbon Taxes.
A vote for McCain is a Vote for appeasing the Liberal Democrats and the Liberals at the UN.
A vote for McCain is a Vote for the GOP to go even further left.

I will Vote! But not for any Lying Liberals. Regardless what logo they have by their name.







Translation
McLame finally found the source of the echo in his skull --duh, it echoed because it's empty!

KAPAHULU - OBAMA TOO DANGEROUS

.....We are still paying the price for the four years of Carter, (Iran, no nuclear, Dept of Edu etc.) just think of how much damage Obama could do to the country in four years ...we might never recover ...

.....SUN THE 1 has the correct long range strategy ...McCain will be a one term President ...this will give Conservatives four years to rally behind a leader who can win in 2012 ...as much as I detest McCain I cannot believe that he is capable of causing more harm than Obama would .....COLOSSUS

funny
You can always tell when an article has hit a nerve when the Obamatrolls hit the comments with negativity and rate the article low. They know their messiah has no teeth on national security and they can't stand being reminded of it. McCain needs to keep hammering his obvious experience of national security over Obamaboy.

A vote for moderate McCain is far better than a vote for the extreme liberalism of the big O any day of the week.

tdkblk
Thanks for the advice. I will "live in the world as it actually is". In this world, the GOP has slid leftwards and lost all sight of it's purported reason to exist. They had six years of control and did nothing to shrink govt or decrease spending or clean up the appropriations process. Worse than that, they acted and spent like Democrats. Worse yet, after getting dumped two years ago they still haven't changed their tune. McCain will only shift the party further to the left and validate the shift for the Rockefeller repubs. This is the line I will not cross. Your insults fall flat. I will compare my education and service record with yours anytime. You will find that I am neither a seventh-grader nor a wimp. Those are the types that WILL follow the party line, flush their principles and vote for the GOP candidate out of fear and ignorance. Like what you plan to do.

Fine post, Seawolf

I like your clear & concise words about McCain and Obambi, Seawolf. If just one or two more contributors to these threads would back us up;

It's a long way to the White House. But we'll have John McCain settled in there when the time comes. Thank YEW, Lord --!

There' no shortage of cretinous farts in these pages, though. I see the SC idjit "Doan ya tread on Me," above; having a cow-sh!t --

"As to Mack "finding his voice" well it's too late baby well it's too late. Anybody who will lead a direct assault on freedom of speech, open the borders wide to illegals while wagging his finger at the dismayed base,"

Get a life, Apple-knocker, there was no "assault on freedom of speech" anywhere, anytime. Which is the reason a total MORON like you has the liberty of cloaking himself in a slime-cape right here, and drooling at the lips.

"propose energy rationing for its own sake,"

If you propose falling off a 500 foot cliff I'll send you gladly, Dummy.

& help block good judicial appointments,"

McCain ??? He's done the exact opposite. Are you from earth?

"Open the borders wide to illegals?" Could you quote any report where McCain says he'll open the borders wide? Do you ever put up or shut up? This is your chance, Corn-pone.

"has no more credibility than Waco Willie."

You ought to know. You're willing to believe every pathetic lie in the world. Credibility isn't on your radar or you'd know you're telling lies about McCain and have no clue about American politics. What a dope!


This "7th Grader"
has enough free thinking intelligence and courage to understand that four years of the RHINO, McCain will seriously slow conservatism and that will do more harm to America than an inept Obama will.
Let Obama win, it will be a long time after before the dems can fool the ignorant masses into believing they will take care of them.
This will show them for what they really are,
again! How soon they forget.

Don't cut off your nose to spite .
My father (1909-1986), a lifetime voting Republican, had a favorite saying which reflected his view toward his defense of ALWAYS voting GOP -- "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face." Despite whether or not a GOP candidate represented my father's stance on different issues, he always found a justification for supporting Republicans instead of Democrats. I have been following his example for the last 28-years and will do so again this year and support the GOP candidates/incumbents.

I do not agreed with John McCain's stance on a number of issues and have no doubt that four years of McCain may at times be unpleasant, but I think we can survive a term with him. I'm not sure our nation will not be "changed" beyond repair under Obama with a Democrat-controlled Congress.

If for no other reason, please consider:
The SCOTUS justices most likely to retire are already the most liberal, but who is more likely to attempt to appoint EVEN MORE LIBERAL justices? Obama or McCain?
And,it's not just SCOTUS. There are federal judicial appointments all over the nation waiting to be filled (and many appointments are being stonewalled by the current Congress). Imagine if federal appeal courts all over the land were populated by justices along the lines of the 9th Circuit!

So you're angry with the GOP and won't vote for RINO McCain? -- Don't cut off your nose to spite your face!

McCain in 2008 - the alternative is UNTHINKABLE.


Three Bad Candidates

I will not choose between them. They can each win as they will or can without my help.

McShameful is a no brainer for sure. No brains will vote for him.

Phooey on all three. They are little different so who cares which lousy candidate becomes POTUS.

Yes, we need a new party or maybe, just maybe they will realign the Repub party after the election goes to the Demos.
.
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sorry Nana

The RNC has managed to nominate the author of the last amnesty bill. They wanted to make sure that we who oppose amnesty would not have any choice in this election. We do have the option of voting third party or a write in. I intend to exercise that option. The argument that it is cutting off our nose to spite our face does not hold water. If the nose has a cancerous tumor the size of a RINO horn that will kill the patient, the prudent thing to do IS to cut it off.

The Truth
We all have been attempting to guard our candidate from scrutiny...why? Do we feel he needs added protection from the Dems. As stated by Rush...one purpose of "Operation Chaos" is to shield McCain from the Democratic Machine. The truth is the Senator McCain hasn't reached out to us, he prefers to sit the fence versus joining us on the Right. I am not happy with this decision, if you're our candidate...join us!

Vote
McCain is obviously not my first choice, I am really disappointed he has become "my" candidate, however I couldn't live with myself if I had any part (however small one vote is worth) in dooming the people of Iraq to complete chaos/slaughter or dishonoring the military by making their sacrifices truly worthless. I just cannot be a part of that.

baseballdoc
I hope Sen Mccain finds a running mate who could be a strong conservative leader in 2012. If not, we'll have to find one.
We can think of 2008-12 as a placeholder, unless Mr. O and a dem congress are in office. Then the place won't be held...

sun the 1
not only strong (his candidate for VP in terms of conservation, but fat also. its part of Mccains plan to interfere into the private lives of american even
more than conservatives are doing now, by trying to convince them that the federal government has anything to do with their being fat. ( see mccains 5-15 speech , if you can find it anywhere ,im told that his staff was looking for all the copies to destroy even before the speech was over. they came close) its the plan to have the fat Vp announce that hes going to lose a certain amount of weight in a certain amount of time and then invite kids to join him to see who can do it better. The Vp might lie just to stay in practice but thats ok as long as the final goal is wothwhile. so root for for tubby. MacDonalds is contributing heavily to the DNC in an attempt to prevent this program from taking affect. what the hell are we going to do with all those french fies, " a spokesman said. we can ship them to the starving people of africa but they get sick and vomit them up up. Oh well. every silver lining has a dark cloud. bury your bibles the dems are coming in november.

McCain's Voice.
He found his voice,but who is he speaking to?T
he same old crowd he has been wooing for years.
He has said ,maybe not in so many words,that he does not need conservatives votes.We may just let him try it without us.

I did read something on the Drudge Report a few minutes ago,that might sway me,though.Seems the winsome Susan Sarandon vows she will move to Italy if McCain is elected.

Now if she will move,take Tim Robbins,her shack-up,and a few other left-wingers,I may reconsider.

more trash --this time chuckinator


Like Virginia (slave state) Patriot, Chuckinator wants perfection in his candidate. Which rules (?) out any Republican.

"A vote for McCain is a vote for Open Borders."

FYI, Chuck-- the border's never closed. GATES in every border town are open 24 hrs a day. Sorry to have to inform you. You'd vote to close them all; I know. (Mexico-hater.)

"A vote for McCain is a Vote for Carbon Taxes."

FYI, Chuck: It has to pass Congress. Without earmarks, which Mac says he'd VETO. You're alarmed over nothing; and nobody needs your vote. Keep it, if that's the best you can offer.

"A vote for McCain is a Vote for appeasing the Liberal Democrats and the Liberals at the UN."

That's quite a stretch. Go live in China, where there's just one party, the Communist Party. There you'll never appease anyone but your dictator. Here we have two-party politics, where you have to reach an accord democratically. (You can't abide with THAT ! Lol!)

"A vote for McCain is a Vote for the GOP to go even further left."

FYI, Chuck; we go where the nation votes to go. McCain is just ONE person. He's not moving mountains anytime soon. You're what's known as an alarmist. Chicken Little, "The SKY is falling !"

Here's what alarms ME:

Keep reducing all your options. --In a few years they'll have to roll you over to the polls in your wheelchair; and you'll vote for Mustafa bin Laden, Osama's grandson. Nobody else's name will be on the ballot. You'll live in a tent with your grandkids tending goats in the yard.

Virginny Patriot by then will be dead because the muslims caught him eating pork sausage with his grits. It's only a matter of time; since you won't help elect ___ a man___ to do __a man's__ job.


I have to vote for McCain
although I have very little respect for him except for his position on Iraq and his unwillingness abandom the people there who depend on us or to pull out our soldiers who in not completing their job would be endangered by a precipitous pullout.

As for other matters, I simply don't trust McCain especially where positions are desired by conservatives. There is something deep and perverse within him that seems compelled to oppose republicans.

Both
conservative sides have valid arguments. I admit I am torn, I despise liberalism, light or dark, I'm extremely angry with the GOP suits who continue to send those inane surveys that are cover for gimme some moneeee! I just sent another one back with no $ but plenty of pithy comments, on their dime. I am supporting conservtive candidates as much as I can on a limited income, but party loyalty..Bah Humbug.
Like Jan, I am concerned about Iraq, I remember how the DemonRat Congress of the day cut off funding for Vietnam and left millions to the mercy of the VietCong and the monsters in
Cambodia, and Laos. I don't want to see that happen to the Iraqi's, nor do I want to subject our troops to another humiliation.
However, I still haven't made up my mind about
McCain; I waiting to see what will play out
in the next few months..his veep choice; La Raza
speech and reaction to it, etc. We still have to consider his age which makes the veep choice much more important.

DEAR NANA from TEXAS !


I read that cool post of yours, and thought: Thank heavens Texas still raises quality Nanas!

Um from New Mexico originally. Unfortunately it's never coming out of the dark ages, or it's sold out to the Left. But, just like Texas; that birthplace still rears good men who go to war for their country. Hardly ever a turncoat; never a chickensh!t, like we keep finding in these posts. Bravo, Nana-- step up & tell the world, "Don't worry, children! We're coming to save y'all!"

Nana, et al
There is a MASSIVE difference between the Democrat I don't vote for, & who I DO vote FOR. By supporting someone, I am presumed to affirmatively give a mandate to that candidate & whatever (s)he has revealed in the campaign platform, past statements, & track record.

Mack has done and said a number of things totally beyond the pale that I can't support.

Just because I don't vote McCain does not constitute a vote for Obama or Hillary. That responsibility lies solely upon those who do vote so.

Anyway, I thought Mack's big advantage, before the early primaries, was his "electability" & supposed appeal to "moderates?" Well, then, there should be no problem. Let THEM elect him, if they can, and don't actually prefer Obama in the generals!

RE: Nana
"So you're angry with the GOP and won't vote for RINO McCain? -- Don't cut off your nose to spite your face!"
If my nose was cancerous I would try treatment to cure it and if that didn't work I would definitely cut it off to keep it from ruining my whole face and then killing me.
The GOP and McCain have ignored the election results of 2006 and our complaints (the treatment) and the only solution is to cut off funding and votes.
I will not support liberal policies even if they come from so called Repulicans. Have the democrats take the blame for the failure of socialism. Then we may be able to rebuild for the country's success.

Fighting PMSNBC & NBC news
Letter to GE about PMSNBC & NBC,
To Mr Dan Janki (GE Corporate Investors relations):

Now that I have retired from General Dynamics after 34 years of service, I have time to research and invest, which I have been doing quite well.

My new hobby is going to try and improve how PMSNBC & NBC News gets back to reality and truth in Journalism. It appears to me that the Parent Company, GE, condones the DNC writing the News Stories to promote the Socialist attack on America and the Constitution.

I intend to vote my proxy shares the opposite of the Board of Directors recommendations in all future proxy votes. Now that I have time to spare, I intend to write every conservative blog, forum, and news outlet I can find, and also start a chain email letter encouraging other Conservative GE shareholders to do the same. Hopefully it may influence management to change their mind about being in the same sewage tank as the likes of Howard Dean, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Dick Turbin, Barack Hussein Obama and Nancy Pelosi (to name a few).

Actually, I think the GOP should sue GE for it’s backing of defamatory, baseless, and fictional stories it tries to frame as News. Freedom of the Press was to protect free speech that is the truth, not fictional stories that are intended to destroy the individual Freedoms & Liberties we enjoy in the Republic, by converting to Socialism. Socialism and Elitist Control is what today’s Democrats are aiming for, and GE is apparently backing this Philosophy. To me your actions, along with (Today’s) Democrats actions, are TREASONOUS, and should be treated as such.

dreadnaught
just a note to say I like your thinkin'

The country has gone more to the
middle and that's why mac will win and win big.
The conservative espoused by limbaugh etal doesn't exist in politics, I wish that were not so, but it is.

Could we get Newt elected? or [fill in the name here], the answer is NO, thanks to the GD liberals who have had 50 years to indoctrinate our kids with their kumbaya garbage. The only way to stop more of it is control the SC and the only way to do that is to win in NOV and work for Republicans so that JSM has a congress that will work with him.

Obambi will screw this country up worse than carter did and that's never going to get unwound, have we unwound the damage from LBJ?. The time to reverse the trend is now while we still have a chance to get our folks on the court.

Our big issues are the court, the war, lower taxes and smaller gov't. Mccain has been on board with all of that for 25 years. If you listen to that fathead limbaugh you will be complicit in losing it all and genocide in the ME. Limbaugh hates Mccain for some reason known only to him and he's a fool for throwing the entire movement under the bus for his own gratification.

I know men who know JSM better than his own wife does having spent time as POW's with him, they support him unreservedly, who better to trust, those heros or some radio talking head with a sick agenda?

Wake up dittoheads, you're being had.

''Whether the pitcher hit the stone...''
--
"...or the stone hit the pitcher, it goes ill with the pitcher."

-- Miguel de Cervantes, *Don Quixote*


Or, in this case, whether McCain crashes and burns in November or Barack Hussein completely screws the pooch on Walter Cronkite's birthday, America *CANNOT* win anything in the 2008 Presidential election.

It's as if you took the essence of what's most thoroughly rotten about each mainstream political party in this nation, distilled the poisons into their most concentrated form, and poured the venomous result into a pair of empty suits.

The worst of the Democrat malaise - Jimmy Carter with a touch of mocha - is sneering at us from behind a facade of "Change we can believe in."

While the most malignant manifestation of "Rockefeller Republican" corruption (like we're going to forget the Keating Five?) and contempt for the Bill of Rights is trying to pass himself off as a "conservative."

No matter how conscientiously the American voter considers the issues in this campaign, no matter how thoroughly we examine the records and study the character (Hah!) of both these candidates, we've got *NO* chance of spending the next four years without a comletely Christless horror ripping away at us from the White House.



=====
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

-- John Quincy Adams
=====

So a vote for Bob Barr this year is a vote wasted?

I don't think so.

--

Good post SJ Doc.
Love the Cervantes quote.

Why are so many so slow to get the importance of not supporting what you don't want?

New Obama parodies
my blog. Find your smile.

orlandocajun
I ditto your post #14.

Rowly
Empty threat from Sarandon...I think there was similar vows to leave for France if Bush was elected....They're still here...Another spineless lib without the courage of their convictions.

bad smelling boy:


I hear you like McCain? Ask me if I care.

You don't care for moi ? Gee; get a new grab-bag, Stinker. If I cared for you, this would be a hard blow to my ego. Instead, let you do the blow job; I can survive your lofty indifference to my begging. (Hey, did I beg this creep? NO--!)

I leave it to you if you didn't like my ad hominems. My day wouldn't be complete if I couldn't lower the boom on self-centered one-party boosters. Especially since THEY'RE the cause of our GOP's present state.

I could explain to you the ways they smashed our congressional majority in 2006; by displaying the Klansman mentality for months; branding us ALL racists. But you don't deserve the attention and you'd carry on for days trying to stump me. (I have my doubts you could do it in a hundred days.) Let's just agree not to disturb one another. I'll settle for that.

Mrs.Paddy
Oh,I know.No such luck.Several of their ilk have threatened it before. Not many countries would let them badmouth their leaders as they do here.

The entertainment Industry is the main cause of the moral decay we are experiencing today.It has no redeeming qualities..

I love your parodies.How do you think of all them? I get an e-mail from Ginny Ellis with her poems.Talent,galore.

Rowly
Thanks! I have a muse. Sometimes I just wake up with them in my head, sometimes I hear something that tickles a memory while listening to the radio...WHo knows?

I agree that there is some bad entertainment out there, but I like to think it isn't all bad. I am a theatrical director, and I try to find something redeeming about the shows I put together. Thanks for the kind words! Who's Ginny Ellis?

You ought to see Scott's book


I think it's important. It's the greatest thing since toilet tissue. It IS toilet paper! Soon it's going to sold at that price. I'll buy 30 copies to keep next to my "super bowl."

you ought to see
good idea. to see it i imean. especially if you are going to review it or criticize what he says in it. always nice to try and know something about the subject before you got spouting off about it, something which all right wingers would do well to pay attention to. by the way , dems will win in November, got any strict constructionists you want to nominate to the supreme court. looking for names. to scratch off any list. in eight years we will wrap up a liberal point of view on the suprme court, possibly by 7 to 2 margin. i can hear the squeals now.

Dreadnaught wants his Onesie!
I finally understand Dreadnaught... He is trying to earn enough McCain Points:

http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInt eract.aspx

to buy himself a McCain Onesie to drool on.

http://store.johnmccain.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode= ONR2418

Anytime you read posts supporting McCain, just know they may be bought and paid for. Niiiice.

Mrs.Paddy
Oh,I didn't mean all entertainment was bad.Just too much of it is.

I get a poem by Ginny Ellis every week or so from thumby1@earthlink.net Some of hers are little ditties and some are serious.All are l-o-n-g.I got her name from some link,I forgot which one.

Wooly Bully reminded me of a time when a friend and I worked in the office at a dept.store.We listened to a station that carried some oldies.

They played Wooly Bully by Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs,I believe it was.Anyway,we got a laugh out of it and it always reminds me of her.After I retired,every time she heard it ,she would call me.

Do you do anything with your poems,except let us enjoy them?

Republicans handed Dems control in '06
Republicans had control of both House and Senate and POTUS... and proceeded to govern like Dems. Spend, spend spend, and then McCain and his 'gang of 14' rendered the GOP impotent! Even when they had control, they didn't excersise it. THEY BLEW IT.

That's why the Dems got back the power in 2006 and that's why they'll get even more this year. They have done nothing but slide and leap to the left and for many of us, we say NO MORE! It's time to cut loose the Rs and form a truly conservative party.

McCain on Iraq - He wants to grant terrorists use of civil courts. And even though Demi Moore could handle being waterboarded for her movie GI Jane, McCain thinks it is torture, so no more of it. I have no proof he'll be tough on terror when I already know he won't be tough on TERRORISTS.

Constitutional judges? Not a chance. The first thing they'd do is overturn McCain/Feingold. He wouldn't chance that. And there will be no way to get up/down votes with a Congress that will be Dem majority when we couldn't get up/down votes when we were the majority!!

I will not vote for McCain.

Like others who have posted,
exactly WHAT voice has McCain "found?"

1)The same voice that made the speech in Oregon in support of global warming hysteria?

2)Or how about the voice that is planning to speak at La Raza's upcoming convention?

3)Or how about the voice that sponsored the cap and trade carbon tax bill that is scheduled for debate next week?

4) Or the voice where McCain trashed President Bush on the Hurricane Katrina response?

5) Or the voice that is best friends with the Democrats...you know, those same ones he was in cahoots with to get liberal legislation passed?

6) Or how about the voice that has been SILENT on McCain-Feingold because it benefits HIM.

Mr. Gallagher, McCain may have found the courage to inquire as to why Obama has not visited Iraq, but the rest of his "voices" still shout, "I am really a Democrat on 90% of issues with the exception of Iraq (and maybe earmarks if I decide not to cave to my Dem friends who I plan to assign to my administration and continue to be bi-partisan with.)

rowly
did you get anne's infor on the chat room. I understand all the problems have been worked out and your friends are awaiting your visit

McCain and Obama: different on the issue
McCain opposes universal health care.
Obama supports mandatory health care under a 'national public health insurance plan' - that means national health care.

McCain supported the Patriot Act, voted for it and all related bills.
Obama opposed the Patriot Act and has voted against it and all related bills.

McCain supports private accounts for Social Security.
Obama opposes privatization of Social Security and believes it can be fixed with 'minor adjustments.'

McCain supports building new nuclear power plants.
Obama opposes nuclear power plants.

McCain supports lowering corporate taxes.
Obama wants to increase corporate and personal taxes.

McCain supports school vouchers.
Obama opposes school vouchers.

McCain opposes unconditional talks with Tehran.
Obama supports unconditional talks with Tehran.

McCain is pro-life, but would leave the question to States.
Obama supports abortion (including partial birth abortions).

McCain supports embryonic stem cell research with existing lines only.
Obama supports new lines for embryonic stem cell research.

McCain opposes legalization of marijuana.
Obama supports legalization of medical marijuana and a crack down on states that do not allow medical marijuana.

Nice Article...

History repeats itself, even the bad parts.

It's not just Obama and McCain that are out of touch, it's a good chunk of America. It's as though half the nation tripped, and we are watching a slow motion fall down the steps. And at the end of those steps, yep, it's that darn Bus!

test
..................

bravo, another jones
And another!

I'm castigated by one or two yahoos here for suggesting McCain is talking good sense. He ought to get our votes. One kook says McCain is nothing but the best friend of Democrats.

Judging by what this person says (she calls herself Not ashamed to be Right)-- I'd give up being the Republican I am if she's the example of a good right-wing Republican. I'd rather go and console myself being an outsider in the Democrat camp, than her kind of insider here. Hatred should never become a party plank for our GOP.

Yet I realize some good & upright people in our party are not well-informed or particularly bright. They always mean well. They always soil their Pampers when the conversation drifts away from virulent hatred of Democrats.

We must cut them slack. Thank God Americans aren't all like that lady.

Regards #79 - dreadnaught
Ignorance wins most arguments; you can't win an argument with someone who is determined to remain ignorant.

Those who blindly oppose the Bush administration would like us to believe that McCain is exactly like Bush, but isn't a conservative. Naturally, neither is true.

The MSM is happy to mislead us on McCain and his positions. They understand that if McCain can be made to appear far from conservative values that Republicans won't vote. They know that if they can apply the emotional argument of McCain as a continuation of Bush that Democrats will vote.

However, based on his voting record, McCain votes 95% Republican.

Obama is the darling of the MSM and despite having foot in mouth disease, he gets a pass on all his gaffes.

Here's another one.

McCain supports Israel.
Obama supports Palestine and is a critic of Israel.

seawolf
Your (3:28pm) post says it well (as your posts usually do).

I do understand that people think if they let this radical leftist get elected, it will result in a major shift to the right.
I don't think it would answer the way they dream it. Instead, the left would claim a mandate--a blessing of their agenda by the American people.
I cannot throw a vote toward the dems (either directly or indirectly) knowing what is at stake. If that's what Rush is advocating, then he really is a 'big fat idiot'.


another jones/dreadnaught
AJ: excellent list. Thanks for posting it.

I am sick of hearing "there's no difference". It's like the right has adopted a leftist tactic: say it enough times and it becomes truth no matter how big a lie it is. So thanks to you both for setting the record straight.

PS: One place they like to apply this is in the matter of judicial appointments. At least one poster here maintains that Sen McCain would not appoint conservative judges. What's the evidence for that?? He not only supported Roberts and Alito, but used considerable skill to expedite their confirmations. Obama voted against them I believe. So elect him? Brilliant.

McCain & the Supremes

That's the problem with Toon Hall arguments, Sun. Half the contributors spread nonsense and lies. These days it's coming from the far-right fringe;

Furious because of illegal immigration, to the extreme that they can't even post our candidate's NAME, they have to mock, using McShame, McShamnety; and worse. That's not politics, it's character assassination.

They'll fabricte as they please; just to demonize the man.

He VOTED for ROBERT BORK ! He's always tried to protect the Supreme Court from the Democrats' vicious circle of abortion enablers; who made abortion on demand their shameless litmus test, to block any opposition against it. McCain will have conservative Justices appointed or die trying!

But the Mexico-bashers won't lend him a hand. They declare him DOA, because he isn't going to evict all 12 million established resident aliens. For NO OTHER reason! Their problem's not the Courts, or Iraq, or taxes. It's RACE!

dread
I'm afraid I have to agree. Sad.
Especially when the alternative is a guy who has a world view they will definitely not want to live with. When they find the US subjugated to the UN, our military decimated, the court loaded with Ginsbergs who vote their conscience and not an outdated piece of paper called the constitution, who do they think will be able to undo all that?

McLellan hurts troops and families?
How dare you kick around this political football about the troops and their families! As a mother of a twice deployed-to-Iraq son, the very worst thing that has happened to our troops is this totally corrupt and cynical Bush administration. If you expect military families to continue to swallow this garbage about how the Republicans are the supporters of our military, think again.

dear cecilia:
Subject: McLellan hurts troops and families?
"How dare you kick around this political football about the troops and their families!"

Cecilia; it's plain to see you aren't offering impartial testimony here. Your fine son wasn't drafted by this "corrupt, cynical" administration, was he? It's understandable your son means more to you than Iraq or Bush. When is he independent then, of his mother's apron-strings? After a change of administrations? It's people like Scott McClellan you should call cynical.

McClellan is comfy knowing he'll never serve in Iraq. He's guilty of a form of treason, but won't have to pay any penalty. If your son committed treason, (for money and fame) he'd be tried and punished.

You must come to terms with these truths, Cecilia. Bush is the armed forces Commander-in-Chief; not corrupt. In fact; he isn't even complaining in public over McClellan's CLEARLY divisive "tell-all-lies" book. A book which would place your son in the category of "victim," instead of what he REALLY is; a heroic American. Bush knows how to respond to calumny and untrustworthy friends like our traitor. He relies on the inherent honesty and intelligence of good Americans.

We've all had the opportunity to see Bush in the presence of our troops, in Iraq. They are PROUD of their Leader. You can learn a lot from their attitude. Perhaps you think they were sent there to "die." But they WEREN'T; they are sent to FIGHT. We know they're the greatest fighters of any country in the world. In that role serves YOUR SON.

We pray, then; for your son. May God help and inspire him; keeping him safe and sparing him from all harm and misfortune --in the LINE OF DUTY. Till he returns to the loving arms of his good mother. AMEN.





Support Our Troops. Know What It Means?
They're doing a great job for us. Mac knows it. He needs to brag about them more. Y'all do too. Let them know Americans are paying attention to the Good News. It counts.

There's a lot about America that needs to be fixed. NOT THESE TROOPS! These guys/gals are doing what's expected of them, maybe more...

I have not found a civilian blog that relates the upside of our performance e.g. teamwork that saved lives, attacks that were anticipated with no loss of life the result, etc, etc.

America has to applaud what it's excelling at, even while it does not agree on the task at hand.

Obama doesn't have a clue. Do you?

Vote for John McCain


I see what' coming:

Yes; a form of amnesty becuase it's a winning issue for Mc.

The cap-trade BS is awful; but will never raech his oval office desk, as you should know. It's DOA, he lready knows it.

Other conservative issues lead to McCain only; polar opposites of the Obama targets. McCain may not even be able to close down Gitmo. He's our man.
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