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Friday, May 16, 2008
Mike Gallagher :: Townhall.com Columnist
Racial Politics Inside the Democratic Ranks
by Mike Gallagher
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It had to be one of the single dumbest questions ever asked in the history of network television.

Diane Sawyer was chatting up James Carville, the irascible Clinton loyalist, about the West Virginia Democrat primary. She turned to Mr. Carville and, with a glint in her eye, asked something that almost caused him to fall flat out of his cushy 'Good Morning America' chair. At least I know I certainly would have keeled over had I been asked the same thing.

Referring to the much-reported exit polling in West Virginia that suggested that one out of five Clinton voters said that race was definitely a factor in their decision, Ms. Sawyer, who makes approximately 12 million dollars a year to ask questions on ABC-TV, said the following: "...should Sen. Clinton say she is rejecting the votes of anyone who votes based in any way on color of skin?"

I swear to you that Carville looked at her as if she had just suggested that a tiny alien creature was living in her left high-heeled shoe.

I'm glad that in the middle of his rambling, stumbling answer to possibly the goofiest question he's ever received, he managed to sheepishly point out that there were "probably a few black voters who have voted for Sen. Obama because of race as well."

A "few"? A FEW???

Surely Carville has seen the same data we all have regarding the racial component of Democrats who have cast votes for Obama and Sen. Clinton. And a die-hard liberal Dem like James Carville isn't about to admit on national TV what has turned into the not-so-secret secret of this Democrat primary season: black Democrats are overwhelmingly voting for the black candidate.

The story has been revealed state after state: 92% of the black vote in Mississippi for Obama; 91% of the black vote in Wisconsin for him; 84% of blacks went for Obama in Maryland; 87% in Ohio; and on and on.

Meanwhile, Mrs. Clinton captured 55% of the white vote in Texas; 64% of white voters in Ohio; and 66% in New Jersey, just to name a few. So while Sen. Clinton has garnered a fairly even percentage of white and black voters, blacks are simply voting in overwhelming percentages for Sen. Obama.

In a contest between two Democrat candidates with nearly indistinguishable policies, this is astoundingly alarming.

If Diane Sawyer wasn't so hell-bent on trying to make the case that white West Virginia voters were a bunch of bigots, she might have asked the exact same question of Sen. Obama and his supporters. The only problem with that scenario is that if Obama had to reject voters who selected him based "in any way" on race, he wouldn't have anyone left.

The mainstream media can't seem to ever cover the issue of race fairly. To realize that dopes like Diane Sawyer think they have a "gotcha" moment by referring to one out of five white voters in one small state while ignoring the giant elephant in the room of nearly 100% of blacks voting for Barack Obama everywhere else is preposterous.

It would be nice to believe that black Democrats all believe that Sen. Obama is truly the best person for the job. But if that were true, what would the media be saying if white voters were voting for Mrs. Clinton with such giant percentages? The answer is easy: the press would be denouncing a racist white America, a hate-filled electorate of despicable bigots who would dare to vote for someone solely on the color of their skin.

If I announced on my radio show that the only reason I'm voting for John McCain is because he's a white man, I can't imagine I'd have much of a career remaining. Unless my career included appearing at conventions of skinheads and Ku Klux Klansmen.

But once again, biased blacks get a pass. Very few people have the intestinal fortitude to admit that it's a crying shame that so many voters are blindly supporting someone for president because of his skin color. It would be the ultimate act of political incorrectness to point this out. Instead, whites in West Virginia -- and elsewhere -- are demonized as non-educated, racist morons.

It's easy to blame white Americans for just about every single racial conflict in America. But in doing so, we're not making much progress in terms of race relations.

Show me black Democrats who will vote for a candidate based on real qualifications and we'll be getting somewhere.

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It is obvious
You are so afraid that Obama will be the nominee. You have no confidence in Senator McCain that I can see.

It IS obvious
No conservative has confidence in McCain. True conservatives like myself are very disappointed we have to settle for McShamnesty.

What's more obvious is that BHO is NOT going to win the presidency because his own party is going to keep him from winning.

McCain is the unfortunate President Elect.

Mike writes:
But once again, biased blacks get a pass. Very few people have the intestinal fortitude to admit that it's a crying shame that so many voters are blindly supporting someone for president because of his skin color.
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Well, lets all begin to stop giving them a pass and point out the real racists today are blacks.
From Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton to the NAACP.
From Black Entertainment Television to Black Beauty Contests.
The list is long where blacks have separated themselves into racial identity groups, in Congress itself with he Black Caucus.


In your face racism
African American Resources

Small sample

Black Organizations


LittleAfrica.com, LLC
8192 Misty Shore Dr



100 Black Men of America Inc.
Shelley Nelson, Assistant Manager of Special Events




Acapulco Black Film Festival
Jeff Friday, President - UniWorld Films


African American Male Empowerment Summit


African American Women on Tour
Maria Dowd, Executive Producer


Afro-American Hist. & Genealogical Soc. Inc.
Barbara Walker, National President


Airport Minority Advisory Council
Donna Brady, Business Manager



American Association of Blacks in Energy
Dorita Dixon, Director of National Projects




Assn for Improvement of Minorities in the IRS
Eddie Mae Washington, National President


Assn for Study of African Amer Life & History
Irena Webster, Executive Director


Black Enterprise & AXA/Advisors Ski Challenge
Danielle Brooks, Account Coordinator


Black Enterprise/Bank of America Entre. Conf.
Alyssa Fant, Program Coordinator


Black Enterprise/Pepsi Golf & Tennis Chal.
Heather Sutton, Account Coordinator


Black Filmmakers Hall of Fame, Inc.
Dorothy Karvi, Programs Manager

Black Psychiatrists of America

http://www.littleafrica.com/resources/organizations.htm

Vote on Qualifications alone?
Would a black democrat, or any democrat for that matter, vote democrat, or even be a democrat for that matter, if they voted purely based on qualifications?

King Liberal writes


King Liberal
Subject: Gallagher Plays the Race Card .
SO WONDERING ABOUT A MORONIC QUESTION D. SAWYER ASK JAMES C. IS RACIST BY MIKE GALLAGHER IS RACIST ,,, YOUR A TYPICAL ROOM TEMP IQ LIBERAL ..BUT OF COURSE YOU LIBERALS LOVE LIBERALS BECAUSE YOUR THE NUMBER ONE STATE ON WELFARE , HUGE UNIONS AND CLOSED COAL MINES BECAUSE OF TREE HUGGERS .
YOU KEEP ELECTING A KKK MAN ROBERT BYRD ....SPEAKING OF RACISM !





the GOP should be less sensitive to their precived notion of a race war going on in the Democratic party and more conerned why a they can't seem to capture any of the minority vote. Right now the GOP brand is so badly damaged that the GOP leadership is trying to figure out whta direction the party should take to survive.

THE HESPANIC'S DON'T LIKE OBOMA AND THERE ARE MORE OF THEM THAN THERE ARE BLACKS . BUT OF COURSE THEY WORK UNLIKE YOU SLAVE TO WELFARE BEST FRIENDS .
LIBERALS ARE ABOUT SLAVERY ... YOUR EXAMPLE ONE .

Martin Luther king was a lifelong republican and th GO can't even come up with a way to capiltalize on that fact to bring black voters(who are pretty conservative on issues like abortion and the dealth penalty) into the GOP fold.

WELFARE RULES BLACKS NOT MORALS , FAMILY ETHICS OR PRINCIPLES .BEFORE WELFARE THEY HAD MORALS AND VALUES ..YOU LIBERALS HAVE STOLEN THEIR BEST THEY CAN BE'S !

Gallagher is a nit-wit who consideres himself a loyal soldier in the opertion chaos ranks, i.e. he's fool and his opine is second rate limbaugh at best.
SAWYER WAS THE NIT-WIT HERE > DUH !
KING LIBEARL (SOCIALIST REALLY ) GOT YOUR, SUB-DIZ HOUSING MONEY , FOOD STAMPS , WICK AND WELFARE MONEY YET THIS MONTH ? JUST WONDERING BECAUSE YOUR ON THE COMPUTER WAY TOO MUCH TOO WORK A REAL JOB .
I BET YOU LOVE KARL MARX BECAUSE THAT IS SURLY THE
LIBERAL/ SOCIALIST GAME PLAN BUILDING A BIGGER GOVT A NEW PROGRAM AT A TIME WITH LESS INDIVIDUALS FREEDONS SLOWLY BUT SURELY .

Biased Blacks and Homerun
Mike wrote:"But once again, biased blacks get a pass." And I ask, what is a "biased black?" Or, as is fairly plain, -- a black voter? Further, what about the blacks who do not vote. If it is time for a debate about race, let it begin but after all of the affirmative actions have been put on hold for 10 years, then debate. As far as one comment about Bush's Homerun, maybe it was but one out of a million is not a good average.

DavidP is typical
It is so indicative the the first post for this article does nothing more than question the author's confidence in McCain. This is an astounding avoiding of anything in the article.

The article is about the bias of blacks as reflected in their voting patterns. Whether or not one believes McCain can win, this is an occurance that people should be allowed to discuss, as it reflects a double standard.

I believe this is true, AND I don't know if McCain will win. But one has nothing to do with the other.

However, by attacking the author's belief in the outcome of the race, DavidP creates the illusion he attacked the reasons expressed for that outcome.

Typical type of reasoning (or avoiding reasoning).

Liberal Justification
Liberals defend black racisim by arguing it is just, right, and reasonable.

Just: Obama and his apologists argue that black racism is simply a product of their culture because of past sufferings. Their racism cannot be understood by those outside their culture and therefore is in accord with what is just.

Right: It is only right to become a racist and hate the innocent because of what their ancestors might or might not have done.

Reasonable: Their pattern of negativistic, hostile, and defiant behavior is reasonable and not only should be tolerated but accepted.

What a country!

David Cone
Cone wrote that the United States was a white racist nation and the white church was the Antichrist for having supported slavery and segregation.

Today, Cone, a professor at Union Theological Seminary in New York, stands by that view, but also makes clear that he doesn't believe that whites individually are the Antichrist.

In an interview, Cone said that when he was asked which church most embodied his message, "I would point to that church (Trinity) first." Cone also said he thought that Wright's successor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, would continue the tradition.

Racism and Blacks
The use of the chinese water torture - constant water drops on ones chest - eventually causes madness.

The race card is becoming the constant drops of water blacks are inflicting on society.

Reaction at some point will be enormous and a backlash will occur.

When an American citizen cannot choose the best candidate for POTUS by issues and character without being accused of the most vile behavior of a racist - I for one have had enough!!

Call me whatever you want I no longer care! I will do my duty as an American citizen - "damn the torpedoes full steam ahead"!

Black on White Racism
Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man's genetic lineage -- the notion that a man's intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.

Quit blaming me for what some white peoples ancestors did!

I refuse the label 'racist'.

Is Obama a deeply Religious Man?
Obama "a deeply religious man" could heal the racial gap if he campaigned on forgiveness towards whites for the sins of their white ancestors.

Obama "a deeply religious man" could heal the racial gap if he campaigned against the poison of black racism and separatism.

Obama "a deeply religious man" could heal the racial gap if he campaigned on a war against "race hustlers" like Sharpton, Jackson, Mentor Wright and Farrakhan.


Racism In America...Duh...
If there is racism in America,it is certainly not one-sided.There's enough to go around.The problem is the elite media has a problem seeing both sides.If they see it,they don't admit it.

Whites overwhelmingly support the white candidate and this is wrong,according to the media.Blacks vote overwhelmingly for blacks.That is to be expected,again,in the media's eyes,and is not wrong.Double standard,as usual.

If The Obama Man is president,every 'discouraging word' spoken by a white will be perceived,racist.He will be immune to criticism.After a few months of this,race will be much more apparent than it is now.This will be a very dangerous'slippery slope.'

KingL
Gallagher played no race card, that was the Dems, Bill started it in S. Carolina. I am black and I will tell you there is a racist element in the Democrat party, on both sides. On some white Dem party leaders for essentially having the attitude "you can play, just don't forget your place". For blacks if they are voting for someone solely on skin color. You guys own this.

Hillary's dilemma
Hillary's campaign is a good example of not being able to fully discuss issues because, unfortunatley for her, the other candidate is black. She can't blast Obama for his many faults, she would be a racist, she can't really bring up the "reverend" Wright, she would be a bigot. Isn't it ironic, the Clintons, who have used their "love" for African-Americans for their benefit are now suffering from the political correctness they have so ardently enforced.

Retired Geek.

I truly sympathize with your frustrations and also commend your yeoman's efforts to make us aware of this ugly double standard of behavior.

Because, tragically... this will hurt us all.

And I really hope that you're wrong, that this will not reach a point of a national backlash.

Because too many good people could be hurt, and on both sides. And for what?

The leaders and the instigators of this hate and ugliness must finally be exposed for who and what they are. Then thoroughly repudiated and driven to the fringes... where they belong.

Good grief, we all deserve better.

So race-baiters... be gone, and stay gone.


ReCon-USMC-RGeek-PolMsgt
The Liberal Postings on this thread prove CONCLUSIVELY that Truth is to Liberals as Light is to Cockroaches.

Your just as much to blame Gallagher
Don't act so innocent Mike. Talk radio and Fox news used Reverend Wright to get Hillary the white vote and divide the races. How did you think the blacks and the whites were going to vote. It's because Hillary is white, that talk radio and Fox news have totally erased their memories of what it was like when the Clinton's were in the White House. It bothered talk radio and Fox news that our top secret information about missile technology and our super computer technology was given to China then. The Clinton's then were a threat to the security of this country and now because of Hillary's skin color she's no longer a threat. Obama never gave up any information to the Chinese that later come back to bite us on the butt. Obama is criticized because he has no experience as a politician. If Hillary is a perfect example of what a seasoned politician can do to this country then you along with the others in talk radio and Fox news can have her. The voters never would have voted the way they did had talk radio and Fox news, not made this contest between Hillary and Obama a black/white contest.

The World History is about Class war
The Entire World History is about Class Level Warfare more than race or color .Meaning the Haves and have nots .Elite Harvard types or Liberal PHD'S don't hang out in Trailer parks and those in Trailer parks don't hang out around Harvard . Marines don't hang out in Berkley Calif .
No matter what Country there has been since time began . Russia , Europe , Mexico ,S. America , Japan , China , Syria , Turkey , Iran , Iraq , Egypt ,Old Rome and yes Africa still existing today .
Black multi millionairs all run with Rich ELITE Whites yet Rich Blacks don't hang out with Poor BLACKS and most BLACK RICH MEN marry white women quite often .
RICH WHITE MEN RARELY MARRY BLACK WOMEN NO MATTER WHAT IS IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS .
YOU WILL ASO NOTICE POOR WHITES HANG OUT WITH POOR WHITES BEING .... MONEY RANKING NOT COLOR.



Too King Liberal

Recon-USMC+Polmsgt
Recon-

nice incoherent rant-I give you 3 out of ten for style.

I was a professional well trained Quick Kill and Blow UP expert .
Then after those 6 years in the USMC became one of the Top Professionals in the entire Furniture Ind In Fact I was Pres. Of Sealy Posturepedic of Canada . It fact I use to do Millions of dollars worth of business in WVA with Hungington Wholesale and FAD in Charleston and the Old Diemond Dept .store ... PLUS many many others Nation wide Top CO.s retiring at 52 Rich and young to RACE HORSE COUTRY OF VA DONE ALL ON MY OWN .
And you ? Yeah Right !


Some Comic Relief.......
It is a pleasure to read the subject matter,grammar and punctuation of some of these 'progressives', aka liberals and lefties.It makes a sad day bright.

It shows how the government schools have dumbed down education,since liberals have taken control of the Dept.of Education.A #1 failure.A fact that cannot be refuted.






maddox
You're right about Hillary Clinton's dilemma. Isn't it just a joy to watch Democrats get hoisted on the very same petard they themselves erected? Kind of like, in the Old Testament book of Ruth, Haman had a gallows built from which he was fully expecting to hang the Jew Mordecai. Well, there WAS a hanging on Haman's gallows, all right - only it was Haman, not Mordecai, who ultimately wound up at the wrong end of the noose. Same thing with Hillary: she's now dangling from the very noose she herself helped fashion. You'd hope that, after this election, white Democrats would stop and seriously re-consider the implications of some of their publicly-stated philosophical tenets, and realize how untenable some have become - like their position on racial matters. However, I'm betting white Democrats still won't "get it".

By the way, any of you see Bill O'Reilly's show last night? He had on his show two Democratic rank-and-file women, one white, one black, and both livid about how shabbily they felt Hillary Clinton has been treated by her own party and the media (the MEDIA, the liberal MEDIA!) and that they were going to leave the Democratic Party if Hillary does not get the party's nomination - along with thousands of like-minded women. The white woman on O'Reilly's show said that the Democratic Party's leadership (she mentioned Howard Dean's name in particular) has thrown women under the bus this election cycle. Here is the ultimate in victim politics: Hillary Clinton is losing the nomination simply because of her OWN shortcomings, and these women are blaming others.

Regardless of who winds up in the White House in 2009, to a conservative like myself, this presidential election has been about as entertaining as one has been during my lifetime; at long last, we're seeing an awful lot of the foul chickens the Democrats have been breeding for years finally coming home to roost - and crapping all over the place.

NO FREE SPEECH IN USA
There is only politically correct speech allowed,that is if you want to keep your job or graduate from most Universities in the USA.Obama is only getting the black vote because he is black.If you do not believe this ,look at the response of the OJ Simpson murder case.All blacks said he was innocent all whites he was guilty,what is the odds people would see things in such racially polorized fashion.You decide , John Owen

Unpatriotic
Most of the comments made about blacks concerning this year election cycle is correct, I'm from South Carolina and the get whitey mentality is in full swing. blacks have an entitlement mind set they believe give them the right to be racist and Anti-American. I would know I am a black man and I hear this drivel everyday, whats amazing about all of this, is the fact that many black folks I know are pretty well off and could not live with out a capitalist system of Government. Voting for Osama,excuse me Obama the (marxist) would eliminate the accrued wealth many of these idiots have acquired of the last couple of decades. If white folk don't put a stop to this, they are going to be up to their neck, in mexican, black, muslim coalition that will require a backlash to save this country. all three groups I listed are extremely anti-white and anti-american. Yes, I am really black and I really love my America.

ScottD et al
The chance for any racial healing may have already passed.

The constant drumbeat of 'Racist' is driving a wedge between good people of all races!

Some will profit and have profited from the hate.

Racism is WRONG no matter who practices it!

Blacks that think this is their chance to retaliate and inflict damage on whites are only destroying any chance for all to participate in the American Dream.

I see race hustlers as no better than the crazies from the Middle East who strap bombs on their children and then dance in glee when the bomb explodes.

Blacks are strapping ;racial bombs' on their children and detonating them.

Stop the Racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why Are Most American blacks Democrats?
Read Wayne Perrymans book titled Unfounded Loyalty.Read what the author says. Perryman states:Republican party has a more impressive record in Civil Rights legislation. No apology form Democrats for racist legislative, terrorist tactics by their members and their Klan supports. NAACP founded and funded by three white Republicans who opposed the Democrats racist/lethal practices. Some key black colleges named after white Republicans who funded and supported them while Democrats tried to destroy them.

Amazing! Simple amazing!
The way so many posters here are either ignoring or actually defending the black racism pointed to in the article.

And and then there is OH NO...who makes reference to "you sick catholic [sic] perverts"
Talk about prejudice...

I get my point across
@gardenDave -

Do you call into Mike's morning show? I do - all the time. I have discussed this topic with Mike before and I don't feel compelled to do so here.

Astoundingly alarming?
Mike,

Great article but you are kidding, right? Most everyone knows how racist liberals are and for those that don't (or are in denial) we get daily evidence all throughout this nomination process. And it is being recorded for future generations to see!

Libs: keep talking and keep voting. I will hand you another shovel once the one you are using breaks.

CARVILLE
IN 70 YEARS ON TERRA FIRMA, I HAVE
NEVER SEEN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING
AS DESPICABLE AS CARVILLE .
" THE FOREHEAD " RUNS A CLOSE SECOND.

STANDSHISGROUND
SHG , WRONG BOOK .
LOOKS LIKE YOU FLUNKED SUNDAY SCHOOL .

One of many dumb questions, or not
Actually, it was a great question since it showed the true feelings of a liberal - much like Obama's bitter comment. It is always enlightening to hear a liberal speak. The hypocrisy is so convoluted it's impossible for them to be consistent. Much like telling lies. Eventually, too many lies are hard to keep track of and you stumble.

Lastly Mike, is ok if I call you sweetie?

Mea Culpa, HEADBOWOMPUS!
You're right, my bad. It's the book of ESTHER I meant in my previous post. And don't worry, I'm not a Easter/Christmas church-attender (I almost never miss a Sunday), and believe it or not, I actually DO know the Bible. Actually, I didn't flunk Sunday school; since I wasn't raised in a Christian home and didn't receive Jesus as my Saviour until after becoming an adult, I actually never even ATTENDED Sunday school. Guess I just had a brain cramp on this particular day!

Evolution promotes racism....
Just a thought to pepper the conversation. If you worship at the holy grail of evolution it is easy to think that blacks are an inferior race based on their skin color and characteristic features more closely resembling their belief that modern man decended from apes than those of your european white. In other words, they haven't fully evolved.

Before you start hyperventilating and PC your panties, I expressly state I do not believe in evolution nor do I think any man or woman decends from apes...

I just know that liberals - of whom the MAJORITY believe that man decended from apes are the most closeted racists I've ever run across and they treat blacks like their own domestic animals.

John McCain and the Democrats
He is about to get the 'Clinton Treatment' from the 'loyal Democrats'.He will find out just how much he gained for 'going over to the other side'to make laws detrimental to conservatives and the welfare of this country.

My hope is his fellow senators will be so nasty to him,he will see the error of his ways,tenfold.It has already started
,but he ain't seen nothing yet!!

Hillary and Bill see how fast they wound up 'under the bus' with The Obama Mans grandma. If not for Obama's historic rise and Messiah-like adoration,Hillary would be their girl.She is now,just like a bed sore that won't go away.

If anything will bring conservatives to see McCain in a different light and maybe support him,it will be the abuse he is about to take from the Democrats and the MSM.

Questioning
If any person of either party calls my questioning of a polititions qualifications racist because we are of different color skins, then call me racist, but DO NOT expect me to go queitly and not question them...

BTW, If a reporter had call Oblame-us's wife sweety, he'd have let loose with how it was disrespectful.

king Liberal writes
s that an actually military classification? Gotta look that one up. I thought they called it "demolitions".

Your obviously did serve this County ! The MOS (JOB)FOR RECON MARINE IN MY ''LINE OF WORK IS ... MOS 0321 .
SWIFT SILENT DEADLY IS OUR MOTTO .
DA BROTHERS DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE A KNIFE .. BELIEVE ME .
THE THUGS IN STREET GANGS ARE SISSSY'S WHEN ONE ON ONE WITH A RECON MARINE .
YOU ARE FACT LESS ON EVERYTHING YOU SAY ..YOU ARE THE WEST VA REV WRIGHT NO LESS .


Reperations?
Can't wait for the June reperations conference to hear BO's response. Like he did with the "reverend" Wright, Obama might be force to admit that he is not the man he thought he was before he ran for the presidency.

To a ditz like Sawyer...
...she expects people to act in a preconcieved manner.

All blacks will be expecterd to idetinfy with Mr. Obama because he as a Black Man is the only one who understands "them". Policy does not matter as much as the need to identify with the person.

Some whites will vote for Obama because they are enlightened. Whites who do not vote for Obama do so because they are racist and/or Republican (no difference in her mind). In the first case policy does not matter as much as enlightenment, in the second policy does not matter because you're a biggot.

Thank goodness for the job of being a TV reporter, the only profession a brainless blond gets off unemployment.

Rowly
Good point! Yup, McCain is about to become the latest in a long line of "moderate Republicans" who will discover how much their holding hands with liberals really means to liberals once those "moderate Republicans" are no longer useful - just like the Clintons have discovered how much all their service to the liberal cause is worth once they're no longer useful to these same liberals. It only goes to show what I've said several times in posts in prior days: with liberals, there are only ALLIANCES, never ALLEGIANCES.

As Ann Coulter has pointed out, for all the years former RINO Senator Bob Packwood was harassing women, liberals knew very well about this activity, but bit their tongues because Bob Packwood was a reliable pro-abortion vote. But once Bill Clinton was elected and abortion rights were safe under him, Packwood had outlived his usefulness to the left, and therefore they turned on him and demanded his scalp, which they got, for the very same activity they had given him a pass on all those years. McCain will find the New York Times and the rest of the MSM writing the vilest stuff about him once the general election campaign starts in earnest that will totally contradict things they've said about him in the past, just as though they had never had ANYTHING good to say about him in the first place, a la George Orwell's 1984. Hopefully, as you said, this rude awakening McCain will be in for will help him see the errors of his ways.

Opinion Alert!
Large amounts of opinion have been detected in this area. All opinion as relates to His Obamaship has been deemed to be racist.

Cease and desist from expressing opinion immediatedly. Return to your little homes. Move along now, nothing to see here. All is well.

All hail the Obama.

Your Humble Servant,

GW

Obama paranoia
Obama's clear paranoia will be of little use to anyone in the WHITE HOUSE!!! His assumption that BUSH was directly speaking to him...is laughable...Bush doesn't have the luxury of time to think about his sorry butt..Bush was clearly trying to address the FACT that European countries have tried repeatedly to negotiate with these NUTS and had no progress.
I've heard that smoing crack makes one paranoid and dillusional...what a wacky nut case...

Siamese Cat Who Walks Like a Man


I agree Sawyer's a Ditz; Leroy:
"Some whites will vote for Obama because they are enlightened. Whites who do not vote for Obama do so because they are racist and/or Republican (no difference in her mind). . . . "

This is Diane's rationale; you say?

Sure; as well as King Liberal's and other demagogues on the Left. The whole Dem Party really thinks it got "enlightenment," therefore chooses a Rap artist from Chi-Town who has no ebonics problem. He only has these problems:

Sleaziest of all abortion enablers in America

Panderer to racial hatred of Thugs in da Hood

Cut And Run Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Armed Forces.

Poster Boy for HAMAS and also Louie Farrakhan's Nation of Islam

Tax and Spend Boy-Toy of Plastic Nan Pelosi, Chappaquid Rummy Ted Kennedy and Slimey Harry Reid, Latter Day Saint from Vegas. --They are all enlightened Pinheads. *Thank you, O'Reilly*

A new word for ya, Bill:

The Democrat leadership is -- REBARBITANT; try that one on! They're Rebarbitant Pinheads!








Standinghisground
What the Democrats and the elite news media do best..is use people.They use minorities,illegals and all manner of people to get what they want.Afterwards,these people will be expendable.

As long as the 'used' feel they are benefitting,they will go along with being used and sometimes abused.They will revolt when they feel they do not get what has been promised.

The Clinton's and McCain are expendable,now.The pile-on is starting and I wonder how long before it is so obvious to even the MSM,they will have to admit it.Maybe never.

I think we are seeing socialism in the making.It is scary,when we can see no way to put a halt to it.It is like an avalanche,with no stopping it until it hits the bottom and we will all be under it.Frightening,isn't it?

whats really funnny is..
that white repubs/cons cant believe black people, who have never had a single black president in the history of the united states,
would NOT vote in mass for the FIRST black/mulatto MAN with a REALISTIC chance at ACTUALLING WINNING POTUS?

The premise the author bases this column on is really silly.

Left Angle
Oh we can believe it ,all right. We have seen this kind of thing before.It is a pity,though,that you would vote for an anti-American,light weight,just because he's black. Now ,that is 'really funny',as you say. Not funny..ha-ha..just funny,like strange.

If Democraps
Really want change, how about changing the welfare system by adding term limits? No more career welfare rats. Write the legislation so that these nanny state socialism programs that you want to force on those of who work for a living have an actual end goal. Would that work for you? I Bet not? Why? Because then you wouldn't have the little sheeple suckling on the gov teet and they might not vote for you again.

Stop spending my hard earned $$ on folks who want a lifelong handout. Or better yet, how about a liberal tax and you libs pay for those programs you want so bad to keep voters

Uh, Leftdangle
There's also never been a woman president in the United States, black, white, orange or purple.

Don't see 90% plus women voting for her.

Teqsand: Regarding welfare term limits
I thought the welfare bill that Newt Gingrich and the Congress presented Bill Clinton with that he signed in fact had that very provision; it was my recollection that it was a five-year limit. Of course, it's possible that the bill that Clinton originally signed has been modified since then, but unless someone tells me otherwise, to the best of my knowledge, the current welfare legislation DID put an end to the lifetime welfare benefit. In fact, by the time Bill Clinton left office, I believe the welfare rolls had been cut by at least 50% from when Clinton first signed that bill.

Remember how the liberals were claiming to the nation that when the welfare bill passed, the nation's streets would soon resemble Biafra, with starved bodies littering them as people who were losing their welfare benefits wouldn't have the wherewithal to provide for themselves and therefore starve to death on the streets? Where were all those emaciated corpses? Either our nation's disposal services were a lot more efficient than we all had realized - or else liberals simply didn't know what they were talking about, AGAIN!

Black Racism? Not at all
First, African-Americans have voted in similar numbers (80%-90%) for Democratic candidates for the past twenty years. The link below shows Blacks' voting percentages since 1976:

http://www.theroot.com/id/46473/page/1

Were Blacks racist when 90% of Black voters voted for Al Gore?

The primaries weren't much differnt. Bill Clinton won the Democratic primaries in 1992 with well over 70% of the Black vote. African-Americans vote as a bloc. That's not racist.

Further, African-Americans actually had higher support for Hillary than Barack at the beginning of the campaign:

"In an ABC News/Washington Post poll taken in mid-January, Clinton received 53 percent of African-Americans' support; Obama received 27 percent. The poll also found 85 percent of blacks view Clinton favorably, while 12 percent view her unfavorably. Only 59 percent of African-Americans said they had a favorable opinion of Obama, to 19 percent with an unfavorable opinion."

Jan 22, 2007 Politico

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0107/2402.html

Were Blacks voting based on race then too?


Racist Blacks Part II
Whenever people make this claim that Blacks are racist for voting for Obama in such large numbers I rarely see anyone mention that Hillary's campaign did a great deal to alienate Black voters by making racially charged attacks against Obama:

"Former congresswoman and vice-presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro is resigning her fundraising position with Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign after controversial comments she made about Clinton's rival, Sen. Barack Obama."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/12/ferraro.comments/ind ex.html

"The bitterness of ex-president Bill Clinton's scorched earth march to the sea across South Carolina lingers not just in the chilly relations between his wife, Hillary, and Sen. Barack Obama, and apparently in the votes of thousands of South Carolinians. There was considerable criticism of Bill Clinton for injecting race into the race, which Obama easily won 2 to 1."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/01/lin-his- own-wor.html

"High-profile Hillary Clinton supporter Bob Johnson is apologizing to Barack Obama for comments he made last week regarding the Illinois senator's acknowledged drug use as a teenager. Johnson said he sent a letter to Obama Thursday morning and said he was also reaching out by phone."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/17/clinton-sup porter-apologizes-for-obama-comments/

Black Racism Part III
And finally, I see little or no direct evidence of Black racism in the high voting precentages of Blacks for Obama. I have seen no analogous poll numbers like the following exit poll that would suggest racial animus:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9761.html

"An AP-Yahoo poll conducted April 2-14 found that “about 8 percent of whites would be uncomfortable voting for a black for president.”

If you can find some exit polling suggesting that Blacks are voting for Obama on racial grounds, your case would be a bit stronger.

racist in demo party
let's face it - The black liberation theology does separate those who follow the doctrine from the white race. obama sat there for 20 yrs and listened to the anti-white marxist rhethoric and diane swoyer asks that quesion? Obama's just another politician who used bush's statements yesterday for a political opportunity today to try and make a case for his poor background with foreign policy. After a photo of his friend Ayer's shows up on tv and the internet standing on an American flag obama changes his stance and wears a lapel pin. That's change you can believe in. I'm voting for mccain and while independents may swing to obama and conservatives are unhappy when i think ahead to who the next president will be i want to know who they are. When obama's questioned about this he says "i wrote a book about myself, you may have heard about that" and his arrogance is unbelievable. For better or worse McCain is getting my vote, my family's vote and my co-worker's vote and most of us have advanced degrees and are smart enough to know there's a lot we haven't learned about obama. He doesn't say anything about change, wants it both ways and is fairly immature when it comes right down to it. I agree with the writer of the column - maybe diane should ask obama if he'll reject the black vote! We're all demos who don't want obama.

20 years inthe pews
"The black liberation theology does separate those who follow the doctrine from the white race. obama sat there for 20 yrs and listened to the anti-white marxist rhethoric"

So do all church-going Catholics believe that artificial contraception is a sin?

Are there any church goers who may attend a church, but don't belive everything that is thrown at them?

Or is Obama the only paritioner that is responsible for every stupid thing his church says?


In your face racism?
talent scout @ 2:19
Location: CO
Subject: In your face racism
African American Resources

I guess you never took a history course talentscout.

There used to be these practices and laws in the United States called segregation. Prior to the Civil Rights movement Blacks were oftentimes forbidden from joining white organizations, going to white schools etc. At the time, courts argued that the races should remain separate but equal, so many black institutions arose to meet the needs of Blacks who were excluded from white organizations. Hence, Black colleges, Black professional organizations, Black beauty contests, Black oriented magazines, etc.

These Black organizations didn't arise because Blacks were trying to segregate themselves or because Blacks thought whites were inferior. These organizations you've listed came about because white people were excluding blacks.

Today, these organizations remain because in many instances organizations geared toward the majority don't address the particular needs of minorities.

Black Racism?
At it's heart, Republicans crying black racism are engaging in a slightly more sophisticated version of, "I know you are, but what am I."

Black Racism Continued
tubbs said: "Whenever people make this claim that Blacks are racist for voting for Obama in such large numbers I rarely see anyone mention that Hillary's campaign did a great deal to alienate Black voters by making racially charged attacks against Obama"

Great point. I was a Clinton supporter originally because I was familiar with her and unfamiliar with Obama. Also, the qualifty of life for blacks improved substantially under Bill which played a significant part in my decision to back Hillary. After Hillary changed tactics and concentrated more on a negative campaign rather than to really push her initiatives, I began to pay more attention to what Obama was saying and have since joined the bandwagon.

tubbs was right on another point. Black folks do vote in blocks. But if you think we only vote for the skin color, run Sowell, Elder, or Keyes for POTUS and see how many black votes they will get.


No moral equivalence
You must be kidding if you can't differentiate between people voting FOR a person based on their skin color vs people voting AGAINST a person based on their skin color. This is a very important distinction, and the moral basis for each is very different. In one case, you have an overwhelming amount of blacks voting for Obama. If in fact a majority of blacks are voting for Obama based only on skin color, assuming your opinion on this is fact (and consider if Condoleeza Rice ran for president someday, would we still see an overwhelming amount of black Democrats voting for her?); then the basis for this would be due to the racial history in this country: blacks voting for a viable black candidate based solely on his racial credentials to support a black candidate's effort to win the hightest office in the USA, something that even 15 years ago would have been unheard of, is a racial vote from a positive racial bias: the desire to see a black candidate succeed, and is not a vote AGAINST the white Clinton or white McCain. Also, your assumption that blacks will vote only for other blacks is not really true, Jesse Jackson rarely won majorities of even black votes in presidential primaries he competed in.
Contrast this with the view that whites are voting AGAINST Obama based on his race. This type of racial bias would come from negative racial feelings, a fear of allowing blacks to compete and progress alongside whites, and general prejudice against blacks in general. These motives come from a racist past history in this country that we should not be condoning, excusing or glossing over. We should be aiming to leave those attitudes and feelings behind, not stirring them up or condoning them.

No Moral equivalence cont
Obviously, the contrast between a race based vote based on an honest desire to see a black candidate succeed versus a race based vote based on deep seated racial hatred and fear is clear and cannot be held up for comparison. The motives of racially based black votes are cleary coming from a more positive and honorable place than the motives of racially based white anti-Obama voters.
Another point to consider: it has been said that in an Obama v. McCain election, portions of white Democratic Clinton voters will vote McCain (voting AGAINST Obama), transcending race above party politics. On the other hand, if there is a Clinton v. McCain election, black voters will most likely vote Clinton, albeit probably not in as large voter turnout as would be for Obama. So really, this proves that for racist whites, race trumps all, but for blacks, party loyalty and issues will ultimately determine their votes. Again, invalidating your claim that white racial voters should be considered on par with black racial voters.

No moral equivalance part 3
The refusal of conservative whites to acknowledge any form of white racism and bias other than the most overt displays is detrimental in the efforts of conservatives to sell their philosophy to a larger portion of black voters. While there are extremes on both sides (the tendency of the Left to cry racism and blame any problem faced by blacks on racist motives of whites, versus the sometimes almost total denial of white conservatives to acknowledge racial legacies and existing racial difficulties), the truth is in the middle. Yes, many advancements have been made by blacks over the years. And yes, there still exists a racist legacy from the majority of years in this nation's existence where racism was the law of the land. Having both sides, liberal and conservatives, acknowledge and accept both premises is the key to actually moving forward and advancing new and innovative ideas that will benefit all races. Conservatives also need to stop making the same moral equivalence arguments they so often accuse liberals of: by giving moral equivalence to issues that clearly have a difference in moral basis and motives.

Diane Sawyer explains white guilt
Getting paid 12M to ask such inane questions regarding the votes of white people for Hillary Clinton would make me feel guilty too. No wonder liberals like taxes so much. They should pay back what they haven't actually earned! Once again, liberals want to deny the will of the people and disregard their votes. How very revealing. Now we know what they are all about. Racism and disenfranchising the votes of white people.

It is Obvious = Meaningless Statements
Quote: "People liked Obama because his campaign originally stood for moving forward, putting the past behind and coming up with solutions for the future" This is the boiler plate Obama pitch on why he should be elected President. It is a very irritating statement because it means nothing. We all are in favor of "motherhood", "apple-pie" & etc. How anyone can accomplish any of these three policies is the real killer. Political campaigns are really very uninformative and misleading.

I am A life long republican
Republican whom has seen the republican party fall to the bottom of the pitt's . John McCain is strong on terrorism but is as liberal as hussein Obama or Hittlery C . I will more than not cast my vote for my local leaders only.

Take the time to read Michelle's thesis
She see's everything through the lens of race. That's the definition of racism - and which group in our country is voting for a candidate solely due to race?

Google: Michelle Obama thesis and Princeton. It's tedious but worth perusing.


THIS STORM HAS BEEN BREWING
Clearly, the racial divide has always existed..that is a no brainer..then we had the disaster of Hurrican Katrina...and 100's of millions of dollars poured in to help alleviate the pain and suffering these people had to endure..BUT, BUT...It was when America had to look at the TRUTH..of what the black community chose to do with "FREE MONEY"..The money intended to provide new clothing and food for hungry children was instead spent in strip clubs and on designer clothes..then after having WE, THE PEOPLE, provided housing, better than most of them had ever had access to, saw what they did in return..they took the trailers and destroyed them..torn them completely up..and went further trying to sue our government for inadequate or inferior provision.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've always lived in the places paid for by myself..no help.
There were several cases in Houston, where people would invite the refugees into their homes and the blacks stole them blind, and sevreal were murdered for a handful of jewelry.
SO, yes...we're extremely tired of the hands out syndrom, the entitlement mind set...I've never known a slave, certainly never had one, and never even entertained the idea that I would...THEY need to get over it..and get a JOB.just like everyone else..If they don't like it...LEAVE IT>>>

Good Grief, have your forgotten OJ?
What else do you expect?

There is a fundamental difference that is not going to abate. Just wait till OhBoomBox loses. Here comes the looting.

Don Jones
MyManJohn.com

Oh you who think blacks inferior
Should take a look at the African Air Force or ride in the newly designed African Hybred gas sipper.

DG

disgust
I have to say.. reading through these posts on this column from some of the responders has been depressing to say the least. If anything, all these posters are doing is giving credence to the viewpoint that the conservative republican party is really made up of a bunch of white racists.

For example:

lionheart
If the truth hurts...too bad...with a few exception, the blacks in this country and others have been proven to be the most racist, worthless, lazy race of people! Show me any black that has done anything w/o the benefit of a white mans education, just one!

Hey lionheart, since the majority of child molesters tend to be white males, shall we assume that all white males are sadistic child molesting perverts??

Your perceptions of black people in general is unfortunate and most likely you have never taken the time to get to know anyone of the black race on a personal level.. or you would never stoop to making such awful offensive statments as you have made about a group of people as a whole.. based on the bad behavior of some visible few. Guess what.. the news media doesn't report on good and kind acts of black citizens and heartwarming stories of rescue victims!

apologies to lionheart
sorry lionhear i misquoted you and was not responding you.. was responding actually to horace p mctitty... yeah the name says it all doesn't it..

response to lionheart
*quote*
lionheart
If the truth hurts...too bad...with a few exception, the blacks in this country and others have been proven to be the most racist, worthless, lazy race of people! Show me any black that has done anything w/o the benefit of a white mans education, just one!

OK Lionheart (and that is a misnomer isn't it!), let's talk about all the black slaves who pursued reading when it was literlly against the law for black slaves to learn to read.. against penalties of beatings and death! How many other groups in this nation's history dealt with that little fact of life in their history?

And on a personal note, my father in law (who is black), has a book in the Smithsonian institute that he wrote about the design and development of the SCSI chip (a major technological advance in personal computing and peripheral devices.. don't worry lionheart there's online dictionaries and encyclopedias you can go to if that was too much for you to comprehend with your white man's education).

Bottom line the stories go on of blacks throughout history that have persevered against the white majorities desire to keep blacks out of their society and privelege against serious consequences for self and family.. that alone speaks to any accomplishment of a black citizen and their character than anything you will have to retort with.

And yeah i'm a white female, and a libertarian voter.. and the majority of attitudes and views expressed by the conservative right wing dipsh**ts here reminds me of why i deny your party a vote every single time, even if we share similar views of limited government and fiscal policy.


Facetious Argument
First, blacks tend to be among the more progressive voters in the Democratic Party- when it comes to the social safety net that the government provides. So they may simply share Obama's policies. But the more important matter here is that there are few consequences of minorities voting for minority candidates. No candidate can win on 12% of the vote. All candidates need the white vote, and if whites, such as the ones in W. Virginia, are unwilling to support a qualified minority candidate, minorities can forget ever escalating to the highest office in the land. Once blacks, hispanics, and other minorities have seen one of their own ascend to the same heights as white males before them, their 'strategic' voting in order to make history and validate their place in society, will likely follow the majority approach- which is more race-neutral. That is of course, unless you live in a few states like Indiana and W. Virginia.

Black Independent Soldier
Patriot (in reply #28)claims that blacks, mexicans, and muslims are building an anti-american coalition that should be stopped by whites to save the country. He then makes the point more than once that he is black. Well Patriot, how do you suggest that whites stop these anti-americans? Would any stoppage of these anti-american groups include you? After all, you are black, or at least claim to be. Also would the stoppage include anyone (like myself) in one of these groups who have and will risk there lives in the armed forces to defend the rights of this great nation that white folks need to save? Patriot, self hatred will not enhance your status amongst white americans. All you can ask is to be judged on the content of your character. Self hatred can often by linked to lack of self-esteem. Your reference to Obama's name and linking his policies to socialism may impress many of your white conservative counterparts, but at the end of the day (hell, just read some of these other post) many of them will never take ANY black man seriously.

Hillary: ‘SPADE WORK’

Hillary: ‘SPADE WORK’ (clinton racist code words)

WATCH

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/hillary-wins-ohio- by-playing-race-card

Racial Politics Inside Democrat Ranks
It gets extremely tiresome to hear commentators say Blacks are racists if they do this or that.

When you look beneath the surface the truth is the commentator is really saying it ain’t fair that I can’t do the same thing.

The latest example is the Black vote for Obama. Blacks as a rule give Democrat Presidential candidates upwards of 85 to 90 percent of their votes. Blacks voting in overwhelming numbers for a White Democrat is not an issue.

The issue it seems to commentators is Blacks voting overwhelmingly for a Black Democrat. However, if one looks carefully at the entire campaign they would note that in the beginning Hillary Clinton, not Obama was carrying the majority of the Black vote.

What changed? Team Clinton in an effort to derail the Obama surge began the effort to change voters impression of Obama from being a transcendent candidate into a Black candidate ala Reverend(s) Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. This enraged the Black voters of all stripes and caused conservative, liberal and moderate Black voters to begin coalescing around Obama.

And why were Blacks outraged? Supposedly only Republicans played the race card but here was President Clinton aka the first Black President dealing from the bottom of the deck. And it didn’t happen once or twice. Team Clinton has over and over again has used the “Republican” playbook to try to bring down Obama.

Now I would like to know, where is the outrage and gnashing of teeth over the fact that Hillary Clinton is and has been getting the vast majority of the vote of White women. Is it somehow all right for women to vote for Ms. Clinton because she is a woman, but wrong for Blacks or men to vote for Obama because he is a man? That my friends is the real double standard.

Black Racism
Racism and Blacks
The use of the chinese water torture - constant water drops on ones chest - eventually causes madness.

The race card is becoming the constant drops of water blacks are inflicting on society.

Reaction at some point will be enormous and a backlash will occur.

When an American citizen cannot choose the best candidate for POTUS by issues and character without being accused of the most vile behavior of a racist - I for one have had enough!!

Call me whatever you want I no longer care! I will do my duty as an American citizen - "damn the torpedoes full steam ahead"!

LGeorge....
...well there you go again blaming others for revealing Obama's true colors. Obama is far from being the great uniter and is in fact the great divider. All Hillary and talk radio has done is shed light on his really character. Look, all politicians try to hide certain beliefs and views in order to get elected. Obama, however takes the cake. He is nothing but an empty suit lacking zero skills needed to run this great country. Unfortunately the other two candidates also are lacking.

Gallagher's false assumptions
There is a difference in being a black person in America than in being a white person. This difference in the everyday experiences of the two races should be a campaign issue and it should be one of the main issues. If blacks believe that Obama is the candidate who can best address this issue then they are making a reasoned and self-interested decision. That is what every voter does. Obviously this is an issue which is more important to blacks than it is to whites. To say that America should be a color blind nation today, rather than working to make that a reality in the future, is to ignore today's reality, which is something conservatives love to do.

Racism is 'Black Gold"
Liberal bootomfeeders are willing to drill for 'Black Gold' but not oil!

They have an endless supply of 'Black Gold' but want us to ride bikes to work to pay for their drilling.

What a country!

To All
I think the point that Gallagher is trying to make is "Why are whites percieved as racist in the media for voting in a white bloc, but if blacks do the same thing it's just the norm". Basically he's asking "Why the double standard".

Blacks and Racism
Blacks instead of fighting against racial discrimination, are demanding that racial discrimination be legalized and enforced.

Blacks instead of fighting against racism, they are demanding the establishment of racial quotas and Affirmative Action.

Blacks instead of fighting for "color-blindness" in social and economic issues, they are proclaiming that "color-blindness" is evil and that "color" should be made a primary consideration.

Blacks instead of fighting for equal rights, they are demanding special race privileges.

Proud Liberal and Racism
Proud Liberal has posted many times at TH in his Liberal double speak - that blacks do not have the ability to succeed without 'special considerations'.

Proud Liberal is a racist hiding behind a 'liberal shield' defending black racism.

Proud Liberal posted that a fair starting line for blacks has to be a mile ahead from all others for them to have a 'fair' chance.

Proud Liberal is a racist by any definition!

Retired Geek
I think it may be just wishful thinking. What P.L. says is true, to help push along the advancement of Blacks into economic prosperity is a noble idea. There is nothing racist about it, any group, who had been given the shaft for centuries needs a helping hand. It pays off too, Blacks are becoming more and more successful. Racism, is more like when Limbough calls a black man and "halfamerican," or when Sean Hannities buddies say "Blacks would still be swinging in trees, if not for nice whites."

Taft
Taft thinks that the only way to stop racism is by making racism legal for blacks.

Taft do you think the way to stop crime is to only have 'professinal criminals'?

Taft do you think that those who have been molested should be allowed to molest?

What a guy!!!

Liberal logic or lack of logic is amazing.

Taft says Racism pays!
Taft wrote: "...There is nothing racist about it, any group, who had been given the shaft for centuries needs a helping hand. It pays off too..."

Taft I can not refute your premise tha Racism pays.

Mentor Wright has a new multimillion dollar house.

Jesse Jackson is a millionaire.

Al Sharpto makes a comfortable living.

Louis Farrakhan not only has traveled the globe but 'been to the mother wheel' and talked to aliens.

Racisn is indeed paying off. Blacks suffer from the effects the taxpayer pays and the bottom feeders prosper.

What a country!!!

What a Taft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taft and Justification
After much thought I think I have distilled your position.

"Any act even if that act is reprehensible, is justified, as long as those practicing the act benefit from their practice."

Is that your position?


Robert is Racist
Robert believes blacks can only 'make it' by tilting the table.

Robert the racist - is helping racism work!!

What a guy!

Had any moon pies lately.

WAITING FOR HONEST LIBERAL RESPONSE
Who cares if most blacks are voting for Obama. The great thing about this country is that you can vote for whomever, for whatever reason.

MORE A CONCERN TO ME IS THIS:

Why is it when I vote against Obama, I'm called a bigot. Or I'm accused of just being an ignorant hayseed that won't embrace change.

But ask a liberal why they wouldn't consider voting for a Clarence Thomas or a Thomas Sowell or a Michael Steele. They will simply say they don't agree on the issues that are important to them.

So why can't I vote against an Obama, and be afforded the same explanation?

I think the liberal movement is so invested in fear as a tactic, even fair minded liberals use it as a substitute for fairness in dabate.

King Liberal
You wrote of another poster: "nice incoherent rant-I give you 3 out of ten for style"

You're joking, of course. Surely someone like you who can't string together several words into a coherent sentence wouldn't be pointing out faults in others.

Stubob
What you said about not voting for Obama because you do not agree with his issues is commendable. I will not vote for McCain for the same reason. Choosing candidates based on their platforms is the basis for the democcratic voting process that we all should embrace.

However, there are many democrats and independents who will not vote for Obama solely because of his race. Some conservatives feel the same way but hide behind facades like labeling Obama as a racist, a muslim, and other vile accusations.

A few of the straight-out racists cons and dems will admit their need to feel superior and publicly voice their disdain about whites voting for black. And these are the individuals who usually claim that blacks are just as racist as they are choose their candidates based on race or the assinine belief that blacks are looking for some kind of "handout" in return.

Racist idiots.

You People Are..........
a frickin joke! Hi, i'm peacefrog2r, im a white man living in so. philly, Half of you assholes don't and never will know what it's like to grow up in a urban area(inner city). You CRY and complain about how bad your life is gonna be one way or the next. I was 17 years old when I heard a calling from the first POTUS I ever voted for. And now im 46 years old and I still live by that calling. You jit-bags do nothing but CRY and moan.....your a Lib....your a Con. Wake up people .we are all AMERICANS!

To All
Also, what, I can't make my own mind up! If I lean to the middle im a RINO, or a Lib! Let me tell ya people, im what America is all about. Im a hard working man (Service Tech. Phone Man) middle class, ex-airbourne, SUV (Ford) driving mother fricker. I send my nephew (Spc Edward Blackburn), baby wipes, peaches, DVD's, silly string and e-mails like there is no tomorrow. Do you people know what it's like to worry about a loved one! I guess im just a right leaning moderate who just wants what's best for my family and my country. And if some of you people don't get it, well I guess you can just go f-ck yourselfs

Blind leading the blind
I agree the black people of this nation are strictly voting on the color of Obama's skin. How else could Obama carry 92% of any group. I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore!!! The media is affraid to admit it and the Democratic strategists are affaid to say it and the Obama camp is playing it right to the nomination. I am a female and have had to look at many male President for what they belive in and if that belief system matches up with mine. I strictly vote for what the person stands for, not because he/she matches my skin color. I try to educate myself about all the candidates, like millions of people do. But this time I am looking at the candidates differently because of the male dominated media, Democratic party and yes Obama who have woman bashed enough!! I see the most quailified, educated, and lifetime public servant to be Hillary Clinton. She has served the people for many years, she has paid her dues and she deserves our respect to be the next President. Sen. Clinton represents all groups of people in this great nation and the polls show this, which I believe makes her the most electable person. If she were a man there would be no question!!! I wonder what would have happen if Sen. Clinton were a black woman?


THANK YOU LIONHEART
I appreciate your response.

It's so much more constructive in debate to pose honest questions and receive honest answers. Answers minus the attacks that usually permiate these threads.

I agree that racism is present on both sides and plays a part in voting decisions. It's a shame though to reduce decisions and debate to such a low common denominator as that.

A couple of things
stubob asked: "WAITING FOR HONEST LIBERAL RESPONSE . . . Why is it when I vote against Obama, I'm called a bigot."

Stubob, I don't think you're racist for voting on the issues at all. I am an African-American liberal and I am oftentimes charged with racism against whites (for supporting affirmative action) or racism because I voted for Obama, or racism for any number of reasons. I guess that's the new flavor of the month for conservatives, "just call the Blacks racist too!"

When people accuse me of racism I examine the situation and I explain why what I did or said was not racist. It usually helps to haul out the dictionary definition of racism. Almost every time, I'm able to explain why whomever is making the accusation is wrong (I don't think white people or any other race is inferior, so that usually helps in diffusing accusations of racism).

golfngal, you are simply wrong. You said: "I agree the black people of this nation are strictly voting on the color of Obama's skin. How else could Obama carry 92% of any group."

As I pointed out above, Al Gore received 90% of the Black vote in 2000. We're Blacks voting strictly by color of skin then too? In fact, Blacks vote in the 80%-90% range for every Democratic candidate and they have voted that way for the past twenty or so years.

Also, as others have pointed out: If Blacks are racist and voting on the basis of skin color, how do you think Condoleeza Rice or Thomas Sowell would do with Black voters? How did Michael Steele and Alan Keyes do?

Still UnPatriotic
Bigfred77. I am truly a proud American, who happens to be a black man, I was born right there in Greenville, South Carolina. I suffered horrendous trials and tribulations concerning so-called white racism, but I never let it define who i was to become later, because I knew my country could be made better through hard work and belief in Christ our Lord. I have seen the of devastation handouts and blaming the white man will do to a community. I see Asians and Indian Americans constantly achieving and acquiring wealth through education and hard work, but I do not see that level hard work coming from the black community. I not going to bother citing stats about blacks and their values, its obvious that we have lost our way.

It not self hatred that drives me bigfredd77 and what I see on the horizon and it doesn't look good for America, especially blacks, if we don't relegate collective and ethnic grievances to the dust bin of history, the plight of black folks are going to be most dire indeed. You see all these outside influences, democrats, liberal, nationalist, muslims, homos, feminist will re-make the black identity into who knows what, but if you were to identify with your country and all that it has to offer you, you wouldn't be so confused as to who you were. You see, its you who deny what you are and this leads has lead to self-hatred among most black folk in this country and that includes you.

During Air show here at Andrews this past weekend only affirms my identity to my country and not some racial collective. Please don't bother me with the self-hatred, its weak and only shows how detached you are from your country, which has given you everything, and only ask for loyalty in return. Do you really believe the Chinese, Muslims, and dictators of every stripe will welcome you and treat you as good as this country. Son Please!

90% of the black Vote
Blacks are voting for the first time in their life because a so-called (viable) black candidate has shown he can compete for the highest office in the land, and why did these folks decide to vote now, very peculiar indeed. Blacks are voting for an image or perception of black achievement. man with an intact family and small children who seems to have little if any flaws, but if look beneath the surface, you'll find someone who is virulently anti-American and full of victimization. I believe whites who continue to follow him, do at their own peril. Years ago in college, I was taking a black studies course and we were on the topic of reparations , the professor told this one lone white student in the class, "yeah, you and your kind will have to give up something" many of the black students started clapping and I sat quietly shaking my hand and spoke to the professor during office hours about how his statement was wrong and hurtful and he told, well you can always join the Sons of the Confederacy, So I did, little did I know the Sons of the Confederacy has many proud black member. I never took another black studies course, it promotes animosity, Marxist indoctrination, and hatred toward America, Something the left wants to keep in place to promote their reprobate agenda.

Patriot
If you say you are truly a black man and not a white masquerading as such (jury is still out), I'll have to accept you at your word since I can't see you.

However, many black folks disagree with the self-defeating ideology that the government is our saviour and that monthly assistance checks are all that's needed to get by combined with other government programs. Many of us disagreed that crime-ridden communities caused by high unemployment among males, fatherless households, drugs, and rampant STD infections had to be our lot in life with no other recourse. If you are black, I assume you felt the same way. The big difference is that most black folks who had enough desire to escape these realities also cared enough to reach back to lend a helping hand to a brother who needs it.

Because of these individuals, our distressed communities are now experiencing economic growth and empowerment that substantially increases community pride and quality of life in these areas. I've read your posts before and you, on the other hand, have delved deep into your self-righteousness and would rather denigrate people of color who are much more unfortunate than you. That, my man, is a characteristic (and tactic)generally displayed by a white male who feels the need to exercise superiority over another race usually caused by an inferior ego. Can't accuse you of this since I don't really know you but where there's smoke.........

Although our communities are improving, there is much more that needs to be done. If you truly are black, you can stand on the sideline and b**ch and moan about the calamity that is evident or you can use your expertise to somehow help a someone (youngsters especially) to learn the value of education, self-respect, and responsibility. The choice is yours.

Patriot and the Black Vote
Another reason I am skeptical about your racial designation is your response to tubbs on blacks voting for Obama.

Most black folks know that originally, the black vote was Hillary's to lose. Hardly anyone outside of the Chicago area code had heard of Obama and felt that he was just another Alan Keyes (albeit democrat)trying to run for president. Hillary was well known and Bill, of course, was highly respected in the black community. A vote for Hillary meant a vote for Bill back in the white house as well. A twofer, you might say.

Then Hillary's campaign people got antsy once Obama began making his move. They thought the nomination would be wrapped up in February but it wasn't. They changed the tactics from concentrating on issues to mudslinging. Also, the right began pounding Obama simultaneously with Rev Wright, Ayers, Mickey Mouse, and anybody else they could think of. Not the issues, though. Most black folks then started to gravitate toward Obama and really begin to listen to what he had to say. If you are really black, you would know this. You would know that when Jesse J ran, blacks did not vote for him in mass because of a fear of dilluting the vote so much the repubs would win. You would know that Alan Keyes received enough black votes to only fill a 7-11 coffee cup. Are you sure you are a brother because your thoughts are very much like some of my TH friends (white)that post here frequently.

Bill Clinton got 90% of Black vote -
FYI Bill Clinton got 90% of black vote and Jesse Jackson got nowhere near those numbers. Black people have voted for whites for years. It's a big difference when white people will NOT vote for a candidate based on his race. Clearly, blacks have - for some strange reason - been a major support base for Democrats and last I checked, there has never been a black president in the past. Truth is, most blacks are smarter than people think. They know the Clinton's didn't do much for them while in office.

Histroy shows blacks will vote for whites, period!
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