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Thursday, September 20, 2007
Mike Gallagher :: Townhall.com Columnist
Jena 2007
by Mike Gallagher
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Why do so many people seem reluctant to condemn the act of hanging nooses from a so-called “white tree” in Jena, Louisiana? Is it because a race-baiter like Al Sharpton has joined with the thousands of protesters who have descended upon the tiny town?

If so, they’re allowing the well-deserved tarnished reputation of “Reverend Al” to cloud their judgment.

Good and decent people shouldn’t stand for white teenagers hanging nooses or burning crosses in order to intimidate and terrorize black people.

The story of the “Jena Six” isn’t nearly as complicated as some would have us believe. Amazingly in today’s America, there existed a “white tree” in Jena where white teenagers gathered under the shade of the central Louisiana sun. One day, a black teen had the temerity to ask a school official at the local high school if he would be allowed to sit under “the white tree.” Of course you can, said the administrator. You should be able to sit wherever you want to.

Not everyone agreed. The following day, three hanging nooses were tied to the tree, a chilling message reminiscent of Ku Klux Klan rallies and lynch mobs.

It didn’t take long to discover the culprits, three white kids who attended the high school. They were given three day suspensions for their hideous act.

And then all hell broke loose.

For nearly a year, fighting and brawling and name-calling erupted between the white kids and the black kids. The tension, say many in the town, was almost suffocating. One of the acts of violence involved six black teenagers beating up a white student. Thankfully, that act of cowardice didn’t result in serious injury to the victim. He was treated and released at a local hospital and even attended a school function that same day.

But that didn’t stop the local prosecutor from going bonkers over the beating. Instead of charging the black kids with assault, or a variation of assault, he decided this was a crime that should result in these kids going to jail for many, many years. Inexplicably, this district attorney decided that the sneakers these punks used as part of the beating should be considered deadly weapons and that the charge should be nothing less than attempted murder.

Attempted murder for a brawl so minor that the victim wasn’t even admitted to the hospital.

Listen, there is no doubt that the black teens who ganged up on the white boy needed to be punished. And they likely are nothing close to being angelic members of the church choir. It’s been pointed out with some enthusiasm that some other acts of criminality have preceded this incident.

But to put all of this mess in context, it would be impossible to ignore or forget what started everything: a black teen, a little more than a child, wondering why he can’t sit under a tree to cool off like the white kids do.

I don’t like Al Sharpton. And I don’t pretend that black racism directed towards whites doesn’t exist. I’m as ashamed of “Miss Black America” or Black Entertainment Television as I am anything a white racist can do.

But none of that changes what has happened in Jena, Louisiana. Two wrongs never make a right. All of us, white, black, Hispanic, whatever, should be mortified that a “white tree” ever existed in 2007 America (thankfully, the tree has since been cut down). And any white kid who thinks that hanging a noose from a tree in order to send a signal to black kids needs some serious enlightenment.

May everyone learn a valuable lesson from “The Jena Six” affair.

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Three Points
1) According to an editorial on chicagotribune.com 9-20-07, another Jena incident involved "a young white man [who] pulled a shotgun on three black students outside a convenience store [after which the young white man] got off scot-free while the young black man who wrestled the gun away from him was charged with theft [of the gun]".

2) A 9-20 3:31 AM townhall.com post by Warren Small belittles "the idea that blacks could be civilized by affirmative action...the biological basis for equality isn't there". He also states that "the NAACP, riddled with Soviet plants and stooges, foment[ed] chaos in the Solid South, demoralizing the white majority to make America look prejudiced" and that Martin Luther King was "a com-symp, compulsive adulterer, and bubonic plagiarist".

3) So racism isn't just in Jena. And as much as Sharpton and Jackson overreach and overhype, it's no longer 1948 or 1924, and let's hope that their actions remind people of that fact.

BTW, how hard can you kick somebody while you're wearing a sneaker? A steel-toe work boot as a lethal weapon might make sense, but, a sneaker?

Gallagher
You call Six Against One a 'brawl'? Get real.

A Pround Moment
Let me get this straight.

Hanging nooses in a tree, no matter how repulsive it may be, justifies 6 blacks beating 1 white to the point of unconsciousness?

Wow, a truly PROUD moment for Jesse and Al, the Race Hustlers. And where be (ebonics?) Hussein Obama?.....crickets, crickets.....

The Facts
lilly, eyewitness accounts by people unrelated to the white victim or three black assailants in the convenience store incident backed up the victim's story. He said he was attacked and robbed after leaving the store and pulled the shotgun in self-defense.

Also, Donald Washington, US Attorney for the Western District of Louisiana said, after a review of the case, that there was no connection between the nooses incident and the beating.

The white student was hit from behind and knocked out; then, while unconscious, he was kicked and stomped by the six. He spent three hours being treated in the emergency room. So much for minor injuries.

Two of the students charged in the beating case were also involved in the earlier convenience store case. This was Mychal Bell's fifth conviction for a violent crime.

Reaganite
Apparently eyewitnesses disagree. The account I heard said that the white boy ran to get his gun from his truck. If that was the case, why didn't he just get in his truck and leave? Also, the TV report said the convenience store was in black neighborhood. Given a tense racial situation, why would he even have gone to that store?

Excuse me, Reaganite, I grew up in a segregated and extremely racist place and I understand very well how racists think. The whites in Jena will never think any white person there did anything wrong but they will be quick to think that any black person did everything wrong. Then they will all agree with one another that no white person in that town has ever had a prejudiced thought. In fact, tonight they were all over TV saying exactly that. And all over this country, people who are still resentful and angry about federally forced integration sixty years ago** will jump on this to say "It's just the blacks causing trouble, as usual."

**You can identify these folks because as of 1961 they have had their kids in private "Christian" academies that just happen to be all white, or else they homeschool them, and they are chronically furious about affirmative action.

Cold Hard Truth
I think you're missing the point. Despite the participation of the opportunists Jackson and Sharpton, the outrage at this situation is hardly a case of race baiting.

No one is justifying the actions of the jailed youths. What they are arguing is that the equal rights of these young men have trampled upon. This is about fairness. The authorities in Jean have consistently judged that the actions of the noose hangers, weapon wielders, and the not mentioned white youths who beat a single black youth senseless at a party shortly before the accused beat the white youth are pranks worthy of little or no punishment. To then judge that the black youths actions amount to attempted murder is biased to the extreme.

The appeals court has overturned the single conviction in the case and the prosecutor plans to retry Bell for aggravated assault. No problem there. But in the sake of justice the white youths actions need to be penalized as well.

about that tree
Was the WHITE TREE only for whites or did it just exclude blacks?

In other words were asians and hispanics also not allowed under that tree?

Where is the UMBRAGE of the asians and hispanics if it is the case that they were not allowed under the tree?

Do you think that the asians and hispanics recognized the stupidity of a few in claiming RIGHTS to a tree and instead focus on how THEY can excell?

Do you think the asians in that school CARE what a FEW retards claim about a tree when they are the one's with the best TEST scores?

Do you think that asians feel that these FEW racists will keep them from accomplishing thier goals?

How is it possible that a FEW racists are able to get soo many riled up? They are so few and have no support, why is it even a story?

Why is it OK for AFFIRMITIVE ACTION to give the BLACKS a leg up when the ASIANS (another minority) get (and need) NONE? How is that NOT discrimination?

Why can't we consider RACE BASED crap that LIBTARDS push upon society as the equivalent of THAT TREE?

lilly
Do you think the WHITE RACISTS in JENA have it out for just BLACKS or also ASIANS?

Do you think that society has the same RACISM towards asians as they do for blacks?

Why do YOU think i'm asking you to compare the ASIANS and BLACKS?

Do YOU think that ASIANS are suffering under the same discrimination that BLACKS are and not SUCCEDING?

Why are ASIANS SUCCESSFUL but BLACKS less so?

Who?
"Why do so many people seem reluctant to condemn the act of hanging nooses from a so-called “white tree” in Jena, Louisiana?"


I dunno, Mike. Who are these 'so many people'? What are their names?

Lilly
**You can identify these folks because as of 1961 they have had their kids in private "Christian" academies that just happen to be all white, or else they homeschool them, and they are chronically furious about affirmative action. LILLY

Nice lilly, lets change your comments to include JUST ASIANS and instead of PRIVATE ACADEMIES substitute UNIVERSITY.

Now go to YOUR university and check out all the ASIANS in the MATH and ENGINEERING DEPTS. (notice the lack of BLACKS a smattering of WHITES and the large % of asians)

NEXT,,,, think to yourself how affirmative action did NOTHING for them and they did it themselves. Something about hard work and responsibility.

Finally, please inform me how the minority ASIANS don't need HELP but BLACKS DO. And that discrimination has ANYTHING to do with it.

lilly
"The convenience store was in a black neighborhood."

The tree apparently was in an area where white students usually sit.

These locations should be open to everyone without fear of harm. The truth is, though, that those of the black and white races have always tended to gravitate toward their own.

We all know it and now law is going to change it. There is no excuse for nooses or violent attacks.

The TRUE Story Not Heard

This is the true story not told by the media that was posted on another website from a student who attended Jena High school and witnessed it all over the past year.

Wanna know the facts?

Paragraph 1

Once upon a time, a school assembly was held to discuss dress codes at Jena High School. An assembly was held for the boys, and one for the girls, as the
dress codes do have some differences. As a joke during the boys' assembly, a black boy, who is known to always joke around, asked the principal, "can we sit under the tree." There are no boundaries as to where anyone can or cannot sit at the school. That tree was a twig when I went there. It grows right smack in the middle of the school square. Kids tend to congregate
in areas with their friends. Some congregate under the tree, on the benches, around the "casket," and other areas of the school. Blacks and whites are welcome at any one of those locales. People tend to congregate where they feel comfortable. That usually is where the majority of their friends are.However, there is nothing saying that they cannot go elsewhere.

Real Story

Paragraph 2

Same isthe case here. The square at Jena High School has been known for the center of school spirit and/or pranks for many years. I've seen everything from "funerals" of opponent football teams to the tree and surrounding area covered with toilet tissue. Jena High School is known for themed activities surrounding football games. This particular week, JHS was playing a team in which the mascot is Cowboys! Hence, the nooses in the tree..."hang'em high!" Not for one moment did the thought of racism cross my mind or the majority of the others. It was football season. We were playing the cowboys. The kids, girls and boys, wore boots to school and had a western themed pep rally! Nooses = cowboys and horse theives in my world. Maybe I've watched too much Gunsmoke, but racism was not even a thought. Due to the reaction of ADULTS in the black community, not the kids at the school, the boys were suspended.

Real Story

Paragraph 3

The entire punishment for those boys was never published because of the confidentiality of the issue. However, the boys were suspended. They and their families were required to go to counseling. The boys had hours of community service. The boys and their families continue to receive threatening phone calls, but yet no one has addressed that issue. In the wee hours of a Thursday morning, arsonists set fire to Jena High School. The main building burned. Blacks and whites, alike, wiped tears as their Alma
Mater was for the most part gone! Nothing has been proven to be related to the noose incident or any other racially motivated activities. The weekend after the school burned, a private party was held in Jena. Invited guests were black and white. However, some uninvited guests showed up at the party and wanted to come in. A fight ensued between a white boy and a black boy. This fueled fights that took place over the weekend. A white young man was leaving from a convenience store that is located on the outskirts of town. As he was leaving, black boys "jumped" him. He did have a gun in his truck, as do many of the males that hunt in this part of the world. When he went to get his gun, the black boys took the gun from him. Police were called. Black boys were arrested for stealing the gun and attacking him. He was not involved at the incident at the party, nor was he even at the party.


Real Story

Paragraph 4

The following Monday, the kids returned to JHS, the first day after the fire. Emotions were still askew due to the fire. Everything that was "normal" was not "normal" any more. There was no intercom system. Classes were moved all over the remaining part of the school. It was chaos, but controlled for the most part. The students stayed in the gym area during their lunch break. When the bell rang for them to head back to class, one of the "Jena six," cornered a freshmen white boy in the lobby of the gym. He was trying to get the boy to fight him. The freshmen boy was clad in blue jeans and red wing boots, hence the typical "red neck." Another black boy, the very SAME one that asked about sitting under the tree, pulled one of the "Jena six" away from the boy and told him that there would be none of that fighting there. However, that wasn't enough for same boy. As the students were returning to class, same "Jena Six" boy, pulled the hood of his sweatshirt up over his head and pushed the victim down into a concrete wall. When the boy hit the concrete, he was knocked unconscious. It was at this time, that five other boys, joined in and continued to stomp and kick the boy as he lay unconscious on the ground. Guess what...the SAME boy that asked can we sit under the tree, was doing everything that he could to pull them off of the victim. The color of his skin is also black! A friend of the victims managed to lay over the victim until teachers could get there to break the fight up.

Real Story

Paragraph 5

Remember, there was no intercom system, no way to call for help! The victim was unconscious when he the ambulance arrived. Hospital records will verify that. Thank God, he ended up not being hurt any worse than he was. On same night of the incidence, the junior class had their ring ceremony at a local church since the auditorium of the school was burned. The victim was a junior and was able to attend the ceremony. His face was swollen and bruised, but yet he was able to walk up and get his ring. The audience applauded as his Mom placed the ring on his finger. One of the Jena six, was also at this ring ceremony the same night. So the question that many are asking is was he hurt badly enough for the "Jena Six" to be charged with attempted murder? I, for one, am not sure of exactly what the statutes or guidelines are for determining charges. However, the extent of one's injuries does not have a thing to do with that. Think about it, one could shoot at someone and miss, and never harm a hair on their head. That's just something to think about. Oh by the way, since there's already one thing to think about, here is yet another. Think about the "black" girl that was consoled by her "white" friends the day after the fight. She was having to be consoled because some of the blacks, the color of her own skin, were threatening her, stating that she was the one that turned them in. Ask the media to find that girl and her Mom. There just may be a different twist on everything. The moral of this whole story is, do not believe everything that you here in the media. Remember, there is more than one side of the story. Unfortunately, the side that is most news worthy is the one that makes the news.


You guys are missing something
The noose hanging was wrong, but apparently not against the law in La. Maybe it should be, but according to the DA and reporters who double-checked, there's no statute against it. Of course, I would point out that while noose-hanging is intimidating and racist, it doesn't quite rise to the standard of beating someone. I'm not saying it's right, because I strongly believe it is wrong, but it's not the same as beating someone. Intimidation does not equal assault.

In my own community, which is pretty multicultural, four Alaskan Native boys decided to beat up a white teenager they saw walking home from a friend's house in the wee hours of an Alaskan morning. They grabbed him, forced him down on the ground, attempted to sexually assault him, and beat and kicked him (with tennis shoes) until he lapsed into a coma and died a short while later. Those young men had earlier robbed a man in a parking lot and run away because he'd pulled a gun. They were identified by the robbery victim and forensic evidence linked them to the killing.

To this day, nearly 10 years later, there are community members who insist these four Native boys were railroaded and are innocent. Oh, no, they wouldn't have done that. The only reason they were arrested was that they were Native.

Yeah, well, a friend sat on the jury and he wishes Alaska had a death penalty just for these young men. Fortunately, we have 99-year sentences for murder one in this state, so at least these young men will be old men when they get out of prison sometime in their late-60s. But a 15-year-old kid is dead. It doesn't matter if he was white, black, Native, Asian, Hispanic, Martian -- his life was cruelly ended because some sociopaths decided they had a right to take it.

I see very little difference between the four young Native men sitting in Alaskan prisons today and these young men in Louisiana. They're lucky their victim lived. I'm sure that was not their intention.

Skinny
Would you also feel bad for those boys if they were asians? Or would you assume that ropes on the TREE's mean something else when it comes from a NON-THREATENING race?

What if the boys were BLACK and they put ropes on the tree? Would you assume they want to send a message about staying away from thier tree?
Or would the ropes in that case signify a CRY for help?

Good article
This was an unusually good article and right on target.

TopGun
If your detailed story, which is sympathetic to people on all sides of the incident, is to be believed, and I have no reson to think it isn't, then what I get from it is that really nobody who isn't personally involved in an incident, not reporters, not columnists, not blog posters, REALLY knows what happens, most of the time.

Thanks much for the reality check. I, for one, plan on being a lot more circumspect when tempted to comment on things like this in the future.

Oh, and for the record, Mr. Gallagher,
I do unequivocally condemn the hanging of nooses from trees or burning of crosses or any other demonstration meant to intimidate blacks.

Hueguenot

It is not my story. It is a post from another web site by a young man who witnessed the whole story this past year.

Basically like the story says, the noose hanging was a skit for a pep rally against the football team they were going to play against named “cowboys” hence the Hangem High skit from the old west like what they did to horse thieves. There were no racial intentions at all according to this young man.

The news and race baiters as usual have spun this whole noose story into a civil rights issue when it had nothing to do with race at all.

The only story is one black man shoving the white man against a concrete wall which knocked him unconscious and then five additional black men jumping in and they all commence to kicking him in the head and body while he was unconscious. When you beat a man while he is unconscious, you deserve to be prosecuted for attempted murder because why else would you continue to beat an unconscious person unless you wanted him to stop breathing and die?

The race baiters and media are using the non-story noose issue to take away from the fact a man could have easily been killed while he was beat while he was unconscious and the black community DO NOT WANT TO ACCEPT THE FACTS OR PUNISHMENT AS USUAL.

How Amazingly Succesful
Our liberal politics are proving to be at reducing this once proud nation of people into warring tribes. As the effects of liberal policies (affirmative action, etc.) and liberal rhetoric (ala Jesse, Al (Sharpton and Gore), etc ad nauseum) sink into the fibers of this nation one can almost see the clock on the wall spinning backwards, erasing the hard fought gains of past generations and producing new problems in our now (unlike 1950's and 60's) highly "diverse" society. And just think, some smarmy politician with ooze sliming along his path will probably get elected by fanning the fires in the small town of Jena. At the very least, some "journalist" will probably get a Pulitzer and move up to the New York Slimes.

I have a feeling
Mike's gonna have egg on his face before this farce is all over.

The Tree
The fact that a black kid asked "jokingly" about sitting under the tree indicates to me that the tree was "whites only" even if there was no sign posted. The school board dropped the ball by not dealing with it at the time (expulsion) which escalated into all the rest. I know the extremist-type racists do but do average people know they are racists if, when they live a certain way for so long, they don't know the difference? People discriminate and are discriminated against every day; it's a natural inclination of most humans. That's why it's called TOLERANCE and not ACCEPTANCE. In any case, last I heard the charges were reduced against the Six.

poor ol' tree
Mr Gallagher says, parentetically, “thankfully, the tree has since been cut down.”
Thankfully? An innocent tree, providing welcome shade, punished because there’d been a dispute about said shade? Don’t stop there: destroy the whole school, then, I say.

Also (without prejudice to the matter of whether the six accused did or did not attempt murder), is an attempted murder a lesser offence if the victim be unharmed?

“Your Honour, I confess that I did attempt to detonate a lethal bomb in a playground, but my imcompetently assembled device misfired and no-one was hurt at all.”
“That’s all right, then; you are free to go.”

pt 1 As I posted on a different
thread yesterday with a black poster, we probably are not getting the real story. The poster "top gun" gives a take that is vastly different than what the media is putting out, particularly since the Revs Al and Jessie have got involved. In addition, I would assume that during the original trials the actual TRUTH came out.

As to charging the boys with "attempted murder", remember what the LA appeals court threw the conviction out on, you can not try a minor in criminal court on charges less than "murder". If LA is like most States, juveniles can literally get away with anything short of murder with a minor slap on the wrist and an expunged record when they turn 21. The prosecutor probably wanted some real charges to go with the real crime.

Everyone needs to remember a few things about incidents like this. Once the marchers and race baiters on both sides turn out, the first casualty is the truth. Rumors will fly faster than a dove on opening day and afer a while they will take on epic proportions that make the truther fantasies look like boring gossip. One thing that people who think the black kids got a raw deal should keep in mind is that the Rev Al and Jessie are out there stirring the population and creating a LOT of resentment in a small town of 3,000. The one kid who’s conviction was overturned still has to go back to trial. The Rev Al and Jessie are p*ssing off the jury pool.

pt 2
Another thing to keep in mind about the six guys jumping on one is that if that happened in my State (SC) they would have been charged with Lynching. That crime is a felony here and can carry some serious time in the big house. Also, youths here can and have been charged under that law. The last case I saw of it were two white youths who jumped a black kid. Like this case there was no serious injury, in fact I don’t think he was beat unconscious. The two white kids pled guilt, the apologized to the black kid, and they literally groveled in the court in front of the judge. I believe they were sentenced to 2 years. That means they’ll probably serve 6 months but they’ll have the felony conviction.

I always bet on ONE THING:
Al and Jesse are ALWAYS WRONG.
They always go out of the way to fan the flames of 'racial prejudice.' Whether it is there or not. (Usually not any more.) Truck/bus in a lot of people who have NO IDEA what happened but want to experience *the Civil Rights Era*. (They Can't, and they should be GLAD of it. It was a terrible time when terrible things happened to a lot of people on BOTH sides of the racial fence. Grow up people.)

Proof of the pudding
This is proof of what I wrote in response to the self-congratulatory smug column stating that the government was right to send soldiersto enforce school integration when persuasion and reason failed. Two generations later we find that unless we are prepared to leave the soliders there for eternity, the people remain unpersuaded.

The same story is being played out all over the country, anywhere people have been forced at gunpoint to participate in something they remain unpersuaded is the right thing to do. As Prohibition proved, you cannot legislate morality. And Jena LA is one more proof of that axiom.

HINT: allowing Black kids to beat up White kids and sending in the Black Army to protest their being punished is probably not going to help.

Thanks, Top Gun
You've added information and a perspective here that I don't think I would have received from virtually anywhere else. I don't get cable TV so I'm shielded from all that crap.

My original reaction to the story was kneejerk when I heard Jesse and Al were showing up to protest. Even with the story Top Gun posted, I still feel we're not getting ALL the back story and issues that can create mounting tension that bubbles over when you least expect it.

A different aspect that I think should be considered is track records. While definitive, a look into the history of cases handled by the prosecuter and judge involved may give indication of tendencies. History may show tendencies in one way or another as to racial fairness or disparity.

In any case, people should be punished when they commit crimes. Period.

Al and Jesse eclipsed
Barack Obama has eclipsed both Al and Jesse.

These two will go anywhere, do anything to legitimize their self-appointed "spokesman/protector" positions, hence their Jena involvement. They are all but irrelevant.


Correction
"They are all but irrelevant." should read "They are both irrelevant."

That should have been...
"While NOT definitive ..."
Ooops!

amazing
Jackson and Sharpton have NO credibility. If they were decent, they would have apologized for the remarks they made in the Duke Laccross team incident. They are black racists.

The Law was Broken
Mike, thanks for a reasoned, sensible article. Much as I despise the Revs. Al and Jessi, I think that nooses in a tree around black people are, to put it mildly, a little like waving swastikas around Jewish people. The kids who put up the nooses should have been slapped with intimidation charges.

Also, if some somebody wrestles a shotgun away from someone who threatens him with it, he should not be charged with theft--or, once the facts of the case are out, the charges should be dropped like a dead rat. This alone makes me think that something's wrong with the town of Jena.

BTW, I teach in a High School where ethnic gangs lurk.

Wow!!
The ignorance displayed on TH by some posters is sad.

Overall though, Mike did a good job in the article. Also, it was not Al and Jesse who actually called for this protest. It was Michael Baisden and MLK III who called for the protest and asked those not in Jena or Alexandria wear all black. Similar protests occured here in DC, Chicago, Atlanta, and LA.

Criticize Al and Jesse. Ok.

But don't knock the issue of injustice in Jena,La as irrelevant or wrong. The 60,000 people who protested got it right on this case.

And we are not stopping until the 6 boys are acquitted.

Warren Small
IQ tests are worth less than the paper they're printed on. Whites with IQs of 100 and Blacks with IQs of 85 merely shows that the psychometrists writing these tests are skewing them towards their own preferred norms. Remember, the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory tests are normed for white farmers in Minnesota. I don't like the looks of lutefiske and the idea of cross country skiing makes me want to sit in my living room drinking hot tea. This does not make me inferior to white Minnesota farmers, it merely shows I have no exposure or tendencies to thier way of life. Yet the MMPI is often hailed as a wonderful tool for prediciting behaviors. Hogwash.
Having grown up in a small white town, I know that there are racists, there are also many more people who have truly embodied the dream of MLK; they have learned to accept people based on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Unfortunately the low-lifes Jesse and Al have twisted and warped that dream into unrecognizable realities.
Whatever happened in Jena, if we weren't there (and most of us obviously weren't) then we will never know the real truth. I imagine the closest we will come to that truth is the postings by Top Gun, and even that story should be accepted with a grain of salt.

Duck
If Al and Jesse are Amos and Andy, then the town of Jena, La is Hazzard County, Georgia right?



Beaten unconcious by thugs
The only double standard here is endorsing violent criminal behavior due to race. When I went to high school ther were MANY places off-limits to non-blacks, and if you went there, you got mugged. Not threatened, but beaten.

Rob
What does that have to do with the case at hand???

lilly aught go look up "projection"
... in her Funk and Wagnell!

And then get some treatment for the pathological racism she projects in her every post.

Wow, lilly.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle ......

Jack Kemp School of "Conservatism"
The author seems to be of the Jack Kemp view that whites are to blame for the troubles of blacks.

Czechoslovakia broke up because Czechs and Slovaks could not get along. Belgium is currently breaking up because the workmanlike Flemish are sick and tired of the Francophone Walloons sponging off their labor(sound familiar?). Due to the dispersion of whites and blacks in this country, seccession of one race from the other in a separate nation seems impractical. However, as this ridiculous Jena case illuminates, such a solution might ease the mutual antipathy of the two races. Instead, we will probably have to get along as best we can, largely living separate lives in the same country. But it is a cauldron, no doubt about it.

R. Ellison et al
I hope you are not depending on the media for "facts" on this event. And the reverend Jessie and Al have said the "protests" were organized by them. Of ocurse they are notorious liars so you may be right and they didn't do anything but blah blah blah.

The only injusticeI have seen in Jena was turned around by an appeals court. The injustice appears to be the fact that LA doesn't have a suitable law for this kind of thing and that the professional black race baitors think it is another episode thay can make money from.

More on SS mess
"Hundreds of college students from historically black schools such as Howard University in Washington traveled to Jena, along with civil rights activists such as Al Sharpton and the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who helped organize the event. Martin Luther King III also attended, saying, "This is about justice for the six young men."

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/20/jena.six/?iref=mpstoryview

The Tree Was Cut Down?

Cutting the three down was the sort of craven act
that's typical of school administrators. The
tree's standing wasn't the problem. The conduct
of some of the students was the problem. Of course,
it was easier to take the superficial approach and
remove the rallying point than it was to attack the
underlying problem -- as if the absence of the tree
will somehow magically change people's attitudes.


-CB-


Ellison....
"And we are not stopping until the 6 boys are acquitted." AND WE - who are YOU?? You think they should ALL be acquitted? OK, then lets all march all the time to get what WE want. What happen to following the law - you want to talk about lynch mobs with this mentality?? And you are amazed by the ignorance of "some" posters here? I need another cup of coffee!

Hmm
Gallagher asks a pertinent question which has yet to be honestly examined and answered. What we see in this thread are the equivocations and rationalizations that prove the question is pertinent. I am very interested to see where this thread will go.

Knox County Five
What about the Knox County Five? We hear almost nothing of this. Who will make an appeal on their behalf?

Surely you must have heard about the crimes commited against Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian, students at the university of Tennessee, in January of this year.

Strange, but this case just hasn't seemed to pique the media's interest. Nevertheless, the plight of the young people charged in these crimes surely merits the attention of Reverends Jackson and Sharpton.

Isn't Jens Studpity a Local Matter?
These are high school kids who all do stupid things. Why are we elevating this to the national level. All of this should be handled by the school principal and local officials. Conservatives should not allow themselves to be drawn-in to a far left racial matter!

Isn't Jena Stupidity a Local Matter?
These are high school kids who all do stupid things. Why are we elevating this to the national level? All of this should be handled by the school principal and local officials. Conservatives should not allow themselves to be drawn-in to a far left racial matter!

Dan Rather
The real story is that the media most likely stirred things up for the purpose of creating an incident which of course sells papers. This is the same Dan Rather media which used a "fake but true" document to attempt to swing an election. As of places which are off limits to whites I dare lilly and any of her likeminded ilk to walk into East St Louis some night and see how long she would last. Face it this is the result of Brown V Board of Education. Our education system has suffered ever since and those parents with the money including the politicians and judges who enforce these laws send their kids to private white schools.

The Truth?
Yes racism still exists, witness the horror endured by Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian.

As far as the truth in the happenings in Jena, reference TopGuns post above.

lilly: Really?
"**You can identify these folks because as of 1961 they have had their kids in private "Christian" academies that just happen to be all white, or else they homeschool them, and they are chronically furious about affirmative action."

WRT hyphenated-America’s fixation on affirmative action/quotas, to quote my favorite satirist, “Loyal Democrat”, ostensible conservatives are of course the biggest racists for the following reasons:

“Only the racists on the Right think that blacks stand any chance competing with whites on a level playing field. Democrats understand that blacks are mentally and socially inferior due to genetic and cultural deficiencies, thus they will never be able to survive unless whites offer them handouts. Such needs are met by Democrats who are sympathetic to the needs of the black community, and they strive to make things as easy as possible for blacks to succeed. Without such concessions, no black could ever hope to succeed when matched up against a white, and it is totally racist to expect otherwise. With such support, is it any wonder that blacks readily praise the political party that recognizes their lack of ability and is willing to give them the handouts they desperately need?”

Speaking as a scientist who recently won a Multi-million $ research grant, “Affirmative action” has produced more advocates for & enablers of “black middle-class privilege” in perpetuity than legitimate scientists & engineers.

Two things
1-Dont reply to lilly, as she post her stuff and then runs off. She is always right that way because nobody disagrees with her.
2nd-I think the right thing was done to start with by school and had it been me I would have transferred their sorry arses off to somewhere else. Or at least gave them the rest of the year off. But this in no way gives 6 other students the right to jump and beat another boy. Then you have another nifong added to the mix, is it re election time for him? Why not take him in front of the Bar the way they did nifong, which is how you deal with Lawyers and prosecutors who get out of hand. But the worse thing by far is making this look like a 60's civil rights protest! The marches then were for a good cause, and people DIED for what they believed in, both BLACK AND WHITE! To compare this to then is wrong. All this is about is some thugs from a school who were trying to intimidate, physically assault and just plain bully other people. Add jessie (anybody here up for a coke) jackson into the mix and to me it just makes a parody or a mockery of the 60's fight for a just cause. Yep, good job there Mr. Prosecutor and Jessie.

Six Black Racists from Jena.
Any time Sharpton and Jackson get involved you know the accused are guilty...

As for the school tree, why do blacks consistantly try to badger white people? I applaud those school kids for standing up to the ever increasing black hatred of anything related to European heritage. Also, I hope the Six Black Racists are brought up on Hate Crimes.

Enough is enough, its time to hold the Descendant's of Slaves accountable for their criminal acts and stop worrying about votes.

Tell us Mike
Why you didn't comment on the white couple beaten, raped and killed by racist blacks
in Knoxville Tn in 2007....where were you and the politicians then? They also burnt them.....where were your comments....Mr Mike.

Nothing really new here.....
I am a veteran of many racial brouhahas in the military as the senior enlisted man in my unit. I was always amazed at the radically different explanations given by whites and blacks when looking at the same event.

While not perfect, it does seem like the people of Jena had a method of getting along prior to this blow up although I'm also sure that there are racial scorekeepers as there seem to be in every neighborhood.

One poster mentioned that the nooses had nothing to do with the kid asking to sit under the tree but had to do with a pre-game enthusiasm building session for a game with the Cowboys. What did the three boys say was their reason for hanging the nooses?

They probably got the suspensions instead of explusions because the people involved knew exactly why they did it and it had nothing to do with black kids wanting to sit under the tree. In fact, I don't know that anybody said the kid asking the question ever DID sit under the tree.

Shod feet are considered deadly weapons and it doesn't matter whether or not they were "only wearing tennis shoes."

I guarantee you after many years of karate training that a kick to the head is deadly shod or not. The DA probably chose the charge based on the fact that the perps showed reckless disregard for the victims life by kicking him in the head. The choice of the charge was appropriate.

I'm sure we haven't heard the last of the kids doing the kicking. Like famous victim Rodney King and the Bernard Goetz "victims" we will be kept apprised of their continuing criminal careers indicating the DA had the right idea about this guys.

The tree pretty much had to be cut down otherwise we'd have to watch Jesse and Al "integrating" the tree. Way to stay relevant guys.



Book it
Mychael Bell has been arrested for violent assault 3 times before this incident. He'll be in jail again within 3 years. book it.

Right on Belasarion!
Excellent post!

In fact, the racist convicted for battery already has four violent crimes under his belt (I guess he's true to the game).

I just hope the Jena officials dont cave in to the thousands of Racists invading the town.

Fight back and rid America of Black Racism!!!!


Jena 2007
Our newspaper (Raleigh News & Observer) has a timeline of the incidents:
8/31/2006 -- Students find nooses in the tree
One week later
9/7/2006 -- 3 white boys accused of hanging nooses are suspended for 3 days
Three MONTHS later
12/4/2006 -- Students fight at Jena High.

Who is saying that there is a connection between the nooses and the fight?

Good column
I am surprised by Gallagher's surprise that there is a white tree. There are schools with similar black halls. But that is not really what made this story take hold.

What drives this story, in contrast with what happened in Newark, is the role of the authorities in the story. A black boy gets beaten for showing up at an all white party, and the DA's reaction is that boys will be boys. A white boy gets beaten up in school by blacks (for his defense of hanging nooses) and the DA tries for attempted murder charges.

Jackson and Sharpton are right to place a higher importance on inequal treatment by government officials.

That is why the story did not catch on with the nooses. It caught on with the attempt to turn sneakers into deadly weapons. The DA should not be sending the signal that black boys are fair game for beatings while white boys will be protected.

Mr. Ellison: Really?
"But don't knock the issue of injustice in Jena,La as irrelevant or wrong. The 60,000 people who protested got it right on this case.

And we are not stopping until the 6 boys are acquitted."

Really? Racism (post-modern definition): pathological tendency to interject race into situations where it is not relevant, merely for personal gain (Dr. Adams) - in your case “moral vanity.”

So 60,000 members of a certain “special interest group”, who refuse to remove themselves from the “plantation of the mind”, do something that would be considered idiotic for an individual doesn’t make it right when you have 60,000 idiots en masse. Not all black-Americans- just the 80% that vote en masse IOT support the party that routinely engages in the aforementioned racial spoilage game in perpetuity: Affirmative Action, quotas, welfare state, earned income tax credit, etc.

Bottom line, six thugs beat a single individual to the point of consciousness & all you see is the hue of their respective skins. Is the punishment excessive? Yes. Do I care? No. Six less thugs off of the street. They should have been prosecuted for committing a HATE CRIME.

The problem w/ most hyphenated-Americans like you is the fact that they routinely throw their energies at such isolated incidents of “injustice.” Why? Because it conveniently distracts them from having to come to terms w/ hard reality: today’s Hyphenated-American’s are victims of their own stupid behavior (i.e., 70% illegitimacy, 50% school drop out, 25% prison incarceration, etc.) more often than they are victims of overt “legal double standards”. I doubt that the six thugs in question are “National Honor Society” members.

duck
How about the Buffalo Bills?? Talk about suffering. The Redskins and Eagles cannot compare to the long suffering Bills fans.
That aside, my take on this issue is-if you are white, as were the couple from Knoxville, Tenn, and are victim of a crime by a black person, that's ok and can never be racially motivated. On top of that, the black person/s cannot be guilty because, heck, they are black.
Now, if you are black and are the victim of a crime by a white person/s it is immidiately classified as racially motivated, and you and every other white person in the community are guilty.
I know I will be called a racist but I have first hand experience with this issue. Of course the crime wasn't racially motivated, regardless of what was said and done to my son. He is white, end of story.

Would It Be Different?
In watching all of this chaos, it seems this incident has been blown out of porportion than what it really was. Although hanging nooses from a tree whether intentional or not reminds people of a time when hatred ran high; I don't know that this was the intention of these students, who weren't alive at this time, or would remember this time in history.

Although I agree the punishment was harsh for these kids, we do not have all the facts, nor do we know if these kids had previous charges from other incidents which would've contributed to some of the charges. We just don't have all the information, only opinions of media & people (which seems to influence people to believe whatever they say quite a lot any more).

This brings to mind what a few people were discussing regarding this incident. If this would've been a group of white kids that beat up on a black kid, wouldn't we hear Al Sharpton & Jessie Jackson demanding the white kids be tried in a federal court as a hate crime? You can't have it both ways.

All groups should be condemning this violent act whether the kid beat up was white, black or any other race. If we want to live together in peace & equality, then every incident no matter which race is involved, has to be treated the same & condemned the same by all races.



Mike, Mike, Mike,
I don’t know if there is evidence that it was actually called the “white tree.” If the fact that “white” kids sat under it makes it the “white” tree…well…that’s racist in itself.

What those three kids did was hateful and justice was deserved. But let’s not forget the gang beating!? Forget the charges for a minute -- only in America can six people who sent anther person to a hospital be called victims and heroes.

I submit – if you were to ask one of the Jena protesters this simple question: “Which is worse, hanging nooses or 6 people beating up one person?” I shudder to think of the responses you would get.

Of course, they’ll have us believe the kid had it coming.


Jena 6 timeline
The nooses incident happened at the end of August 2006 and the "fight" or "beating" between the boys happened in early December.

Who is saying that the two incidents (over three months apart -- in a small town) are connected?

My Fellow Conservatives....
....Anthony Thomas sounds a little pink.

Mr. Thomas: Thank you
As for the school tree, why do blacks consistantly try to badger white people? I applaud those school kids for standing up to the ever increasing black hatred of anything related to European heritage. Also, I hope the Six Black Racists are brought up on Hate Crimes.

Wow. Thank you for your candor. In reality, "Hate Crime" is starting to turn into a 1984-esque "Thought Crime" concept. This was a local incident that should stayed local. The problem is that the enablers & apologists of hyphenated-American misbehavior have essentially ramped up the situation, just like they did during the Dukie Rape fiasco. Of course, Ms. Mangum was never prosecuted- nor did she apologize. Why should she since, like the 6 thugs in question, she is fully immersed in the culture of perpetual victimhood?

Lon states....
"Jackson and Sharpton are right to place a higher importance on inequal treatment by government officials"


I think its right to summarize that Lon is out of his mind....

Shocked!
You mean to tell me the mainstream news media lies (kronkite, rather) and takes advantage of a situation (jenna) to sell their rags or TV for ratings? I am SHOCKED.

Any student will tell you
who attends an integrated school, the races pretty much stay to themselves. The lawn outside the school and the cafeteria reflect the same resegregation. In prisons, it is a well known fact that convicts divide up parts of the exercise yard into racial groups. Is Jena any different?
Sharpton and Jackson are trying to make this incident into the equivalent of Selma. It isn't Selma. It reflects, even if well intentioned, liberals attempt to diversify has created its own problems.
Sharpton and Jackson, professioal race agitators, haven't had a good march in years to keep up their credentials. They don't want this to pass and be resolved at the local level closest to where the problem is and at a pace that is sustainable.

Disappointed in Mike G
The appropriate punishment for the kids who hung the nooses was suspension from school. For a good measure add some sensitivity and diversity reeducation. Blacks go around with whatever symbols they want but that's ok, whites can take it. I find a t-shirt with Che Guevara offensive but I don't throw a hissy fit. Top universities have designated black and Hispanic dorms and student centers that are "no go" for whites. Whites aren't allowed to be offended. The Jena situation gives the message to blacks: if you're offended, beat the offender up. Real appropriate.

I have a question:
Are all these protesters taking vacation time or “PTO” from work?

The tale of the fringe.

All of this is so sad, yet so predictable.

Here we have America, which is for the most part a decent country. But in some places, racism still resides to rear its ugly head.

But here's the painful truth, friends. Racism is still racism... wherever it comes from. And tragically, it come from both sides.

But it in reality, it is ALL about the fringe.

One one side you have the supremacist goons and all of the closet haters. On the other, the race baiters and the hustlers who do more to victimize and hurt their own. On the first side, a false sense of superiority. And on the other, victimization and the ugly politics of division.

The innevitable result; tension, bad feelings and a growing distrust. Some whites will become more fearful, and some blacks will hide behind their race. And true responsibility will be lost on both sides.

And for what???

Are we not ALL capable human beings... and none better than the other?

I really wonder... if we will ever see the day when as MLK so eloquently put it - we will judge someone by their character, and not by the color of their skin.

I wonder.




Let me help you.
Anthony Thomas = Racist Sympathizer.

The Jena whites cant possibly be racist. Hanging nooses is a natural reaction to Racist Black Squatters, Black Block Busters, and the Black Bearers of Low Academic and Social Standards...

It is true, Jena is pivotal point in American History.

Will America stay European based or de-evolve into the Federal Republic of Northern Brazil: espanol....

Warren Small.

Are you a racist?

One more question:
Will these protests end when the protestor’s vacation time or “PTO” time runs out?



The way I see it!
I grew up in south Florida, in the late 50's early 60's the lynch mentallity was alive and well, I think the boys that hung the nooses knew exactly what they were doing, their daddy should have whipped their young asses the minute he became aware of this, but to put it in a nutshell, dads probably an idiot too. I would like to point out that this goes deeper than the nooses and has probably been going on for quite some time.

Interesting post, Warren Small
As a side note, its also worth mentioning that Asian embrace education on all levels.

On the contrary, the Descendant's of Slavesin America reject formal education on the premiss its making them white....


....keep it real, yo!

lilly
They make steel toe sneakers and reinforced toe sneakers now as well. I doubt that robbery had anything to do with it.

Anthony Thomas.

Anthony, don't let some people ruin your life.

The fringe still exists... sadly, on both sides.

Jena "6" HATE CRIMES
The 6 Black Thugs that beat the crap out of 1 white kid, are guilty of HATE CRIMES. Their penalty should be 2X harsher because of their Hate. Why not, if it was 6 white kids on 1 black kid, we'd see Sharpton and Messy Jesse on "the other side" of this issue. They're nothing but pimps and they're disgusting. They are LOSER's hiding under "The Reverend" label. Civil Rights my #$%*.

scottK
FYI: Your posts read a little soft, mate. Try using some backbone when leaning into the keyboard.....

Jena 6
This is whole thing is way out of control and is over reacting on everybody's part.

The South needs to grow up and get real no matter what color their skin is.

another thing...
I think that principal drooped the ball big time. When a student has to ask if it's okay there's your clue to something is up!

Vic
"I hope you are not depending on the media for "facts" on this event."

I think you are referring to the mainstream media correct? I really couldn't prior to yesterday because they didn't cover it. I relied on info from The Power, Radio One, NAACP Legal Fund, the Jena 6 Defense Committee, Ms.Sara Rodgers of the SPLC, and Alan Beam. I told you about this a month ago when NONE OF THE BIG 3 Covered this. I sent an e-mail to O'Reilly in early July and never got an reply.

"And the reverend Jessie and Al have said the "protests" were organized by them. Of ocurse they are notorious liars so you may be right and they didn't do anything but blah blah blah."

Your actually lying now. They never said that. Even Rev. Al on his radio program yesterday featured Michael Baisden for almost the entire program. What Rev. Al has done is been in contact with the parents of Mychael Bell for the past few months. Jesse has visited Jena since early June. Yet no cameras where around until yesterday.

"The only injusticeI have seen in Jena was turned around by an appeals court. The injustice appears to be the fact that LA doesn't have a suitable law for this kind of thing and that the professional black race baitors think it is another episode thay can make money from."

How can you possibly say that??? As far as money making, what money have they made??? Actually, money has been sent to the parents of Mychael Bell in order to pay his bond.

kfaideed

I've always wanted to be a tough guy like you. You must tell me about it some time.

But you do NOT represent conservatives... mate.

Prudent Action to help JENA 6
Another way to help free the Jena Six

It might be more beneficial for the protesters to save their vacation time or “PTO” hours instead, and take a “PTO payout” donating the money to help with legal defense.







The Real Story
The real story here is not the incident in Jena; it's the response. Tens of thousands of people, most of them black but many white, have converged on this town. Why? Because they want to secure equal voting rights, integrate the schools or have equal access to public facilities?

Not this time. What they're demanding is freedom for six thugs who viciously beat up an innocent young man. The protesters seem to have a desperate need to have their "civil rights moment." They've said as much. They want to be "part of history;" they've taken their kids out of school to teach them the importance of "the struggle." They have expressed great satisfaction with themselves and with this "important" moment. The only problem is that their 'cause celebre' is a group of thuggish teenagers. (The last one was an unstable, drug-addicted prostitute).

This civil rights pilgrimage, which appears to have become an important right of passage for blacks and bleeding hearts of all colors, has become a ridiculous, pathethic, self-affirming ritual.

They don't seem to understand that the day of the great civil rights gatherings--with the long journeys, the signs, the singing, the marching, the chanting, the T-shirts--has waned. These gatherings no longer have the strong and clear moral imperatives that they once had. And they no longer touch the conscience of the general population. These gatherings have become rock concerts.

Re: Sharpton and Jackson
First, thanks to Top Gun for furnishing us with the info he got from a Jena blogger.

Also, Alex correctly points out that liberal politics has turned us into a nation of warring tribes. It has also turned a large number of self-declared minority victim groups into the most insufferable crybabies imaginable.

But the biggest issue I have with the author is his comment to the effect that just because Sharpton and Jackson are involved doesn't mean the cause is false. This comment is like the old one-liner that goes "Just because I'm paranoid that doesn't mean they're not really after me", only it's not the least bit funny.

Sharpton is a fraud. He is also an instigator of racial strife and violence. Jackson is a shakeodwn artist who has hijacked the civil rights movement of the '60's and subverted it for his personal profit.

Humanity has created relatively few individuals who are as disgusting as this pair. Bringing these two @$$holes into an already racially charged situation is like throwing gas on a fire.

Whether the "Jena 6" know it or not, the appearance of Sharpton and/or Jackson on their behalf seriously depletes their credibility and whatever sympathy objective onlookers may have for their claim of victimhood.

There is no excuse for the kind of "street justice" these six carried out in Jena High School and they belong in jail. For a long time.

This brings me to the stupidity of Ralph Ellison. Ralph, for you to say "...we are not stopping until the 6 boys are acquitted" is no different than saying "We are not stopping until it's legal for black people to exact revenge for any perceived racial insult against the most convenient white person available. And that is no different than a white person saying "We're not stopping until it's legal to lynch black people again."

You can see where this kind of thinking leads.

SOEMONE ought to get his facts straight
"Thankfully, that act of cowardice didn’t result in serious injury to the victim."

The injuries included serious damage to one of his eyes and one of his ears that doctors say might be permanent.

I think someone is just searching desperately for some reason to condone such violence.

Fighting had gone back and forth since the noose incident -- an incident that resulted in the offenders being suspended from school. Just before the 6-on-1 beating, the DA had come to the school and demanded the attacks stop, lest he "drop the hammer". Those 6 refused to listen. That was the first incident since the DA's demand that the violence stop. The hammer was dropped.

Those kids SHOULD be made an example of, and that is a sentiment that I would STILL hold if these were white kids.

kfaideed
Be honest. You're not for real are you?

Demon


Really? Racism (post-modern definition): pathological tendency to interject race into situations where it is not relevant, merely for personal gain (Dr. Adams) - in your case “moral vanity.”

Interesting definiton. Did you make it up?

"Bottom line, six thugs beat a single individual to the point of consciousness & all you see is the hue of their respective skins."

Actually no I don't. I see injustice by an over zealous prosecutor. This DA went to the Jena High School right after the noose incident, after the fight at the fairgrounds, and after the shotgun incident at the gas station and stated primarily to the African American students, "I can ruin your lives with the stroke of my pen"

As for Justin Barker, he brought on the fight because he used racial slurs in referring to a fellow African American female classmate. He was beat up, taken to the hospital, released after a few hours, went to a school ceremony that night, and went to a party the following night. Come on guys.

"Is the punishment excessive? Yes. Do I care? No. Six less thugs off of the street. They should have been prosecuted for committing a HATE CRIME."

I think if you charge the Jena 6 with a hate crime, the 3 students who hung the noose should be charged with the same apllication of the statute. Right?

"I doubt that the six thugs in question are “National Honor Society” members."

I highly doubt you care about anyone other than yourself. What a sad human being.

One Truth
Over 95 percent of all black-white crime is committed by one race.

This sums up the thinking
I'll say it again:

I submit – if you were to ask one of the Jena protesters this simple question: “Which is worse, hanging nooses or 6 people beating up one person?” I shudder to think of the responses you would get.

Of course, they’ll have us believe the kid had it coming.

Garbage Column
Lilly, It does not take a shoe to kill you with a kick.

I gave this tripe a one only because there was nothing lower.

Lilly, MLK was all those things and more. This says nothing about the cause. Just because you are a racist, don’t go throwing rocks at people who believe in justice.

Beckie, Forget the test. Performance in fact is the measure. All live in America and call it home do they not? No excuses for non performance.

wiseone
Actually it is different. When 6 boys are victims of injustice, then you have a responsibility to speak out. No one wants to "kill whitey" or lead a "lynch mob". I leave that for those who have let this injustice occur in the first place. We want equal justice for these 6 boys. Nothing more and nothing less.


Hmm
Very interesting comments. I understand how younger people can make them, but you older guys know the real story. Turn back that clock and search you memory. I know that in general, things aren’t like that any more; but in little pockets it still is just like the old days.

Hate Crime
Drop the attempted murder charge, charge them with aggravated battery, then charge them federally for violation of civil rights under the hate crimes legislation.
This would insure that they receive a more significant sentence because it is obviously a hate crime.

RE: lillymoron
lilly stupidly puked:
Also, the TV report said the convenience store was in black neighborhood. Given a tense racial situation, why would he even have gone to that store?

...

Conversely, why would that black student want to sit under that "white tree"?

Oh, that's different?

You can't have it both ways, kiddo. You're either a racist or your not. Sounds like you're the former.

Hey Scotty, dont know much about being..
...a tough guy, but I lived overseas for 3 years, 1 in the UK and 2 in East/West Africa...

If I learned anything, America is the greatest country in the world for Education and Business opportunity. These successes are directly related to whites being the major decision makers over the last 200 years.

FYI- African countries suffer from some of the worst and corrupt political leadership in the world: I'll let you figure that one out....

Currently, the UK is goin