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Monday, November 02, 2009
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Generation of Sociopaths
by Mike Adams
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Glenn Beck gets it. He understands something I’ve been seeing and writing about as a columnist for the last seven years. He understands that the downfall of America will not come from the outside. It will come from the inside. It will happen because we failed to pass on to our children the values that made our nation great – and to remind them to pass those values on to their children.

Arguing with Idiots By Glenn Beck

A couple of Glenn Beck’s observations - from a recent Fox News broadcast – are worth repeating before I supply a bit of supporting evidence:

I've said this before — and I know I'll get heat for this — but I'm convinced we are raising a generation of would-be killers: the "me generation." … A generation that was brought up by parents who wouldn't spank them because it was too barbaric and were graded in purple pen because red is too frightening. A generation who got trophies no matter what place they finished.

We promised them a land of sunshine rainbows and lollipops. So it should come as no surprise that the "me generation" enters the workforce demanding high salaries, corner offices and promotions in the first few months — all while wanting to dress down and work less than 40 hours a week.

If you believe that Glenn Beck is exaggerating you are wrong. As a college professor for the last 17 years I have seen evidence of a slow but steady movement away from an acceptance of rules and, indeed, moral absolutes altogether. And it’s not too tough to see how that leads to rampant self-absorption.

When we replace belief in objective truth with moral relativism we are telling people they are the one true source of morality. And that leads them to believe they are all, in a sense, little gods and goddesses who should not be told what to do. Pretty soon we are spending all of our time dealing with little sociopaths who believe they are the center of the universe.

Take a few minutes to read some emails I have written over the last couple of days. As you read them, please note two things: First, these incidents are real. Second, they involve college students who are all adults above the age of 18.

Dear Introduction to Criminal Justice Students:

Yesterday in class, I noticed a student staring at her laptop and laughing as I spoke generally about the use of deadly force to prevent homicide. I reminded everyone – quite nicely I thought - that this was inappropriate. But, then, when we began our discussion of the shooting death of a fifteen-year old by a Memphis police officer the same student began laughing again.

The student sitting behind the giggling student confirmed that she was, in fact, surfing the net on both occasions rather than taking notes. Because I cannot have you sitting in your own little world and laughing out loud as we discuss murder I must, regrettably, impose an immediate ban on all laptops in class.

MSA

 

Dear Law of Evidence Students:

In response to the most recent cell phone interruption of class I am doubling the penalty for future interruptions. It will now be eight points deducted from your final average. Note that we began the semester with no penalty and have gone up to one, then two, then four, and now eight point deductions from your average. These changes have all been in response to successive interruptions.

I have asked you not to bring cell phones into class so I cannot imagine why the interruptions keep happening. Also, please set your ringers to something other than rap music if you plan to a) intentionally defy the rule against bringing cell phones to class and then b) forget to turn the cell phone off. I do not want to hear lyrics about b****s and whores while you dig into your back pack to shut off your phone.

MSA

 

Dear Introduction to Criminal Justice Students:

I have been approached by numerous students asking for special test administrations next week. As you know, the test is set for Monday during our regular meeting time in our regular meeting place. Apparently, this is inconvenient for many of you. So, I have decided to give separate administrations for all 71 students. In other words, you may select the time and the place that is convenient for you to take this second test of the semester. Just let me know what works best for you based upon your own individual circumstances.

MSA

p.s. If you were not Swift enough to get the point of this message then you have failed this course. Otherwise, I will see you Monday at the regular class time in our regular meeting place.

 

To All Students in All Sections:

I wanted to drop you all a note concerning notes. We have a class policy that penalizes tardiness with a four-point deduction from your final average. We started at zero and then went to one, then two, and now four points off per tardy. You will recall that this has been in response to repeated class interruptions. Despite this, someone recently barged into our last class twenty minutes late. To make matters worse, the offending student claimed a right to do so because he had a note. Actually, he did not have a note but claimed an ability to get a note. This is just a reminder that other people cannot negate my rules by writing notes.

MSA

In 1988, I began to pursue degrees that would allow me to teach at the college level. I never really considered teaching at the high school level because I did not want to spend most of my time dealing with disciplinary matters. I wanted to teach those who were motivated because they were not compelled by law to attend school.

But that was before the diversity movement took over higher education. It kicked into high gear in the 1990s. We began to teach students about multi-culturalism and the lack of universal truth. Then we began to teach them that we should not judge others because different values arise from different circumstances. And, of course, different behaviors arise from different circumstances. No one really chooses to think or act a certain way because it is best. The culture determines these things for us.

And now the people who taught these ideas are perplexed. When they said “question authority” they did not mean to question their authority. When they called into question the validity of rules and laws they did not mean to include their own. And when they suggested that people were not responsible for the own bad behavior they did not mean their students should behave badly towards them.

Liberal professors complain constantly about student conduct. And it seems funny that very few of them understand that they are simply experiencing the real-world consequences of their own liberal ideas. But Glenn Beck has pointed out something that really isn’t very funny. And it has something to do with the current health care debate.

Those who are promising us “universal” health care recognize that there will not be enough to go around. Rationing will be necessary. It’s built into current proposals. We cannot now ask teens and 20-somethings to make sacrifices after promising them life in a bubble. They would not make the sacrifices if we asked. They are special and they have the last-place trophies and grade-free report cards to prove it.

The data now show that young people support national health care far more than older Americans. So I guess the latter will be the ones who will have to sacrifice. And, sadly, they will be the ones who ultimately will be sacrificed. Among them will be those teachers who taught that ideas are equal instead of teaching that ideas have consequences.

Ideas do have consequences. Among them are the death of cultures and people, too.

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Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.
 
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Fasten Your Seat Belt, Dr. Adams
I teach remedial reading grades 6, 7, and 8 in a Texas middle school. On the First Day Of Class (!!!), a 6th grade girl threw papers off her desk, whipped her hair around, and talked back to me until I finally sat her outside the classroom so that the lesson could proceed.

Discontent with her inability to disrupt the class, she proceeded to howl like a she-wolf in the hallway, trying to disrupt from the hallway.

When the Assistant Principal came to rescue the class from her presence, she loudly interrupted him and me throughout our conversation as if we were members of our peer group. It seems this incident was precipitated by her belief that she did not "belong in that class."

Amazingly, two-thirds of that same class exhibited similar behavior for the First Four WEEKS of School (!!!). Needless to say, not much learning about reading took place, but near the end of the first six weeks, the class was finally approximating the appearance of a functional classroom.

I thought things were going pretty well until I got a letter last week from a boy's dad demanding an explanation for my "hypercritical" behavior toward his son. My trespass? I had marked his son tardy to class the day before even though his son had told me "it was an accident."

I can only imagine what these children will be like when (if?) they get to college.

Correct in Paragraph Three
That should be " . . . as if we were members of her peer group." Sorry.

Why can't I vote a "10" on this...
...rather than be limited to 5 boxes? As a parent, one of my most consistent jobs is trying to teach my children that actions, decisions, and their thoughts have consequences while their school seems to be trying to teach them otherwise.

Whatever happened to punishments for missing homework? My 8-year-old daughter went back to school the day after she "forgot" her homework. Was there any punishment? No; that was up to me as she lost out on some other privileges at home while completing the work she missed.

Do the mentally deficient people who make policies that allow for non-consequences have any idea the kind of monsters they are creating, particularly in homes where the parents may not be as vigilant? Do they understand the ambivalence created when the authorities generate no consequences in school for missing work but the home has to set personal responsibility as a key socialisation that isn't enforced elsewhere?

Since I can think of no more sure formula for creating neurotic adults, perhaps that is the actual objective.

Sorry...
From reading Anne on a mouse, above, I can see that it isn't just the school administrations who are fomenting chaos, but selective parents, as well.

Perhaps we can find a way to marry up disruptive parents with neurotic school administrations, so that the rest of us can get on with life which proceeds by principle, do you think?

Naw, I don't either. The Feds want it the other way around to bring us all down to their level.

God help us...
...if we don't seize control of our society once again.
Having spent 35 years (20 as a Principal) in public education I witnessed first-hand the deterioration of what formerly was the pride of the nation...its schools. My active years included the 70s, 80s, 90s and first several years of the 21st century, and I can attest to the mediocrity that is rampant nowadays. Of course, one cannot paint the picture with brush-strokes that are too broad...after all, some schools still work...but all too many have become the victims (overused but apropos) of multi-culturalism (no absolutes allowed), self-esteem (something not earned, but owed), and loss of academic rigor (failure affects self-esteem, you see). I know this sounds too simple, but it carries the case in a nutshell.
Schools reflect society. By that I mean that schools behave exactly the way society wants them to be. Society used to value an educated person...now it does not. Sound-bites rule, character assassination passes for debate and "diversity" and "tolerance" have pushed all manner of perversion int "normalcy." Schools now teach what parents would never have allowed in the 60s, 50s and prior decades. Foul-mouthed, criminal athletes are the heroes and politicians rule where statesmen used to dwell.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said that we had "defined deviancy down" in our scramble to make all points of view acceptable so no onw is offended. God help us if we do not grab what remains of what is right and reestablish truth.

I couldn't agree more...
Having been raised with values and principles, I know full well what it is like to act with honour when those all around think such behaviour is for fools and idiots. As such, I decided at a very young age that I did not want to have children because I didn't want to bring up a child to be honourable and to know the meaning of respect while those all around could choose to act in a negative fashion and then be rewarded by society for it.
Of course, with less good kids growing into good adults, the world is going to become, literally, a hell on earth - but I will hopefully be long dead by then.

Thanks Dr. Adams
We have one country and we should have one set of rules. This "everyone gets to play by a different set of rules" simply won't work. Also, the lack of moral education is appalling. People think they have done a great thing by telling kids "there are consequences", yet this is the lowest level of moral development possible. Even "treat others as you would have them treat you" is only at an intermediary level.

Actually, will
I think Mikey is claiming that a lack of discipline has led to, er, a lack of discipline in his classes. In that, I think he'd be right.

But as usual, Mikey isn't content with that. First he quotes a buffoon, then he makes up letters he claims he writes to his students. Throw in a few references to absolute authority (i.e. his sky pixie) and warn of dire consequences and--voila!--the perfect red-meat Mikey column. And another check in the mail.

What a ridiculous editorial.
The following quote is said to come from Socrates.

'The children now love luxury; they show disrespect for elders and
love chatter in place of exercise. Children are tyrants, not servants
of the households. They no longer rise when their elders enter the
room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up
dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize over their
teachers.'

The elders of every generation are convinced the youngsters are ushering in the destruction of the culture. And yet, somehow we survive, generation after generation.

Mellor:
"First he quotes a buffoon, then he makes up letters he claims he writes to his students. Throw in a few references to absolute authority (i.e. his sky pixie) and warn of dire consequences and--voila!-"

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You're right. It's like some demented Betty Crocker recipe. Every week, the same ingredients: the made-up letters; every week the crutch of an Omnipotent Sky God (who, incredibly has time to personally "hear" 300 million prayers a night). Of course, since he writes so many of these columns on "destructive liberalism in higher education" he has to gin up and augment and even falsify the examples he selects. Otherwise, no column.


And all the dunces around this place write responses like: "Oh, Mike, you're a modern Jonathan Swift! What great satire! Thanks for keeping up the fight against militant femi-nazis and radical homosexuals and godless atheists!"

He bakes the same cake every week. Serves it on the same plate. It really is a childish, tired formula.

Mike used to be an alcoholic. He's simply displaced one addiction (booze) for another (Invisible Sky Beings mixed with radical conservative ideology).

Sky Pixie??
I'm impressed by your reckless bravado as you heap coals upon your own head!

"used to"?
Well, good for him. But the new addiction is arguably worse.

Happily, the TownHall of Adams, Parker, Giles, Crouse, Rios, Bozell and Shapiro is just an echo chamber. Same tired formula "against the militant feminazis and radical homosexuals and godless atheists!" So long as they stay here, they can't do much damage. Plus, TH keeps similarly minded losers off the streets :)

Hope you're doing well.

will and mellor
Who are you morons talking to? Do you honestly think anyone here takes anything you two say seriously. Why do you keep coming here? Are you masochists? You hate everyone and everything here and yet you can't seem to go away.
You are both utterly pathetic.

burkanuck1
Got a rise outta you :)

Not an echo chamber
but an INCUBATOR. Ask republican party officials.

Mellor
Too bad, but I think you might have gotten a rise out of our "sky god", too. Be afraid... be very afraid.

Mellor
Well, the site does include conservative columnist Steve Chapman who's an out gay man. So I suppose that's something.

But he seems to be like the token black guy. For every Steve Chapman there's a dozen social con nutters using the same hyperbolic smear tactics.

btw.. Include TH columnist Maggie Gallagher to your list of homophobes. She's the head of the National Organization for Marriage (the group that helped defeat Prop 8 in CA and is trying to defeat Question 1 in Maine --- and tried to make an Anita Bryant-like spokeperson out of Miss California).

The social cons of Maine are trying to overturn the state's legalized gay marriage. They vote on Tuesday (tomorrow). It's a really close campaign. You watch: if the gay marriage ban wins, there will be huge, blaring, rapturous featured stories. --- If the Maine voters are cool with gay marriage and uphold the state legislature, then the story will be buried in some tiny corner and TH readers will never know.

Will
I'll watch for Chapman. Thanks.

As you say regarding the Maine vote. As always, I fear the worst. Then again, the Equal Rights Amendment ran the same gauntlet and failed, yet these days equal rights for women (in the US) is a given, albeit somewhat imperfectly implemented.

It will never be perfect for gays. We *are* a minority and the more rabid sky-pixie people will never accept us. That's fine. We're making progress, and it's hard to see (short of an invasion by the sharia sky-pixie people) how that progress can be rolled back.


I'll lift my glass to that and
Godspeed to all descendants of same sex couples!

Homophobia?
Fear of homosexuals? How could anyone fear such effeminate freaks?

It isn't fear, it's simple disgust at such perversion. And we sure get tired of hearing their self-obsessed chatter around here.



There was a decent discussion going on
and then will and MellorSJ2 showed up.

Difficult Times...
"But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come."
2 Timothy 3:1 (NASB)

And the rest of the chapter goes on to explain in explicit details the exact sociopathic behavior being described in this article. Only with true faith in our homes will be succeed and overcome this apathy. I preach Jesus Christ because I hope to save America before its too late.

"Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted."
2 Timothy 3:12 (NASB)

John in MS
I've always considered this one:

2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

John in MS
Sorry posted to quikly.

2Peter 3:4 and subsequent verses as illustrated by Will in post #7 above.

A Real World Education
Prof. Adams, you don't understand the simpler explanation that the younger generation despite all their high-tech toys are just stupid. When they voted for Obama they voted for Hollywood "good feelings.' Unfortunately, that election was similar to a sophomore drunken binge and the hangover is still to come.

We seniors, who have the honor of taking the bullet for medical care cost cutting, have a world of experience and knowledge that, unfortunately, the younger generation is going to acquire through a brutal experience with a government that can give you everything you want and take away everything you need.

Bon voyage, suckers!

Heaven, Purgatory, Hell
Heaven is for the perfect. Only those who are perfect will go straight to heaven when they die. And that's perfect by God's standards, not yours.

Purgatory is for the repentent. Only those who recognize their own sinfullness and truly repent will make it into Purgatory. Purgatory is differentiated from Hell by one thing: Hope. Those in Purgatory will be there temporarily and will eventually end up in Heaven (There's only an "up" escalator), but it is still a place of torture and punishment as your soul is purged of the stain of sin.

Hell is where everyone else goes. Most importantly, those who believe that morality is what THEY make of it rather than a universal truth and will, therefore, not feel the need to repent are in the greatest jeopardy.

I cannot say who is or is not in one of those three places. I cannot know whether Josef Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Yasser Arafat, Ted Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, or Pope John Paul II either repented their sins or rejected God at the last moment (although, it's probably possible to venture a pretty good guess). And, yes, Salvation can be gained or lost in the last second of life, although, like anything worth having, losing is much easier than gaining. And living a life with an "I'll just repent when I'm about to die" mentality is not the best way to go. You don't know how, or when you're going to go, and you may not get the chance.

This piece pretty much explains ...
... why I took an early retirement way back in 1996. Things began deteriorating in this direction sometime in the mid 1980's, I would estimate.

On my very rare forays back to the university where I loved working, I can readily observe simply by walking through the halls that things have gotten worse - much worse.

An easy explanation - not easy to accept
The November 16,2009 issue of Forbes magazine closes with a text that is very appropriate for the topic of this column. And something for us all to keep in mind as we consider where we stand in relationship to our culture and to the God of Abraham,Isaac, and Jacob who was so influential in it's establishment. He was honored at the beginning of this nation. Is He honored now? And what will be the result if He and His rules for living aren't being honored?

"The hand of our God is upon all them for good that seek him, but his power and his wrath is against all them that forsake him."
Ezra 8:22 Forbes page 168.

We are raising a generation of 'would-be-killers', but only because we, as a nation, have turned our backs on God, and we are reaping what we have sowed.

2 Chronicles 7:14



Oh, stop
Boy. And my brother calls me a luddite.

Look. I do agree that the "Me" generation thing is a problem. Kids who grow up with no idea of competition, to fear everything, to think they are entitled to special treatment, well, that's a problem. But, you treat the excesses of a few as if it is everyone. There have always been problems cases in education. Just because one kid thinks it's okay to watch the internet in your class, doesn't mean that no one should use a laptop. I have had a few students take all their notes on a laptop and they were all good students. If I were a student today I would do so. Same thing with cellphones. We didn't grow up with them and have trouble adapting to some of the culture of them, which appears rude to us, even where we sometimes behave in the same way. Get used to it. The technology we grew up with and love will be replaced with newer technology, at least for the most part.

Last, yes, kids want to manipulate the structure of their environment. They have much more complex lives than we did. Many more of them work during college, and many more full time. I admire their determination, even when it hurts their grades. Plus, they have seen things like online tests and other variants which allow this. It makes sense to them.

I sympathize with you. When technology changes we lose some wonderful things. But, the phone replaced the telegraph and you will get used to these innovations too. So, go home, put on your 8 track, call your mom on the land line and tell her you want to come home. That's your choice. I say, be a good teacher and kids will want to come to your class and learn. And most of them will do it the way you want them to.

MIke, AWESOME!
Excellent column. I got out of higher education partly for the reasons you describe. There is a wave of potential enforcers being home grown, as when Mao sent out his legions to destroy and reeducate the middle class. WAKE UP NOW. Probably too late anyway . . . . BUT AT LEAST TRY WE HAVE THE GREATEST CIVILIZATION EVER. YOu are losing it.

sociopaths
I can take this one step further...this is the generation who will vote yes for euthanasia because it is too expensive to care for the elderly in Nursing Homes.

Amen Carol
You are right on! Here's another observation of this generation: a friend of mine is a recruiter for a major firm. Her department has made classifications for the types of interviews they do with college grads. The most disturbing is the catagory, "parent-driven" interview. They know that this "candidate" is coming in for an interview that has been managed, set up or in some way interfered with by the candidate's parent(s). Is that sad or what? They have to do this because so many of the current college grads think nothing of letting their parents take over.

to Will & Mellor
Both of you need to get back down into mommie's basement and change those pajamas. They are beginning to stink.

David in VA
So then, I take it you do not complain about cell phone useage in theaters or texting while driving?

retchemprof I'm sorry
to hear that.

I took my son to school on his first day of first grade in 1996 with memories of my first day in 1962...not even close, it was like beeing in a Mad Max movie. Later that year, one of his teachers confronted me for having a "goodie goodie" (her words) for a son. I felt bad for having hobbled him by telling him to pay attention, respect your teachers and fellow students, and to work hard.

Yes, it's a moral issue
It is immoral to coerce other people and to steal from them - in this instance, to impose outrageous new taxes, take away the healthcare they have paid for, and destroy the whole system by which they can get decent care. The only way to stop this abomination is to make it absolutely clear to our representatives that THEY WILL BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE IF THEY SUPPORT IT. There is a website where you can pledge to vote against politicians supporting the bill. Representatives will then be informed of how many votes they are losing. It is called http://www.PledgeOfLiberty.com


Kids today
In addition to what Dr. Adams and a few posters pointed out, kids today don't understand what anything costs because they have never had to earn anything.

For instance, look in any high school or college parking lot. It amazes me as to what they drive. Not a single clunker out there compared to when we were in school and had to earn money to buy our own cars. Today parents purchase everything for their kids. When the kids wreck the cars they buy another one.

Once the kids are in the workforce they are flabergasted as to what things cost and the parents continue subsidizing their kids.

Kids don't understand sacrifice on a personal level, nor do they appreciate the sacrifice of their forefathers.

We've created a generation that expects handouts.

Re that Socrates quote
I've been seeing that (attributed) Socrates quote trotted out as evidence of the "Chicken Little syndrome" for two generations now.

The provenance of the quote may be questionable, but the historical context is not. At the time of the alleged quote, Hellenic civilization was in the process of committing suicide.

Socrates life spanned the time of the Greek triumphs over the Persian invasions, to the Peloponesian War.

So what makes you think your civilization is immortal?

Will The South Rise Again?
Liberals like to think that Southerners are stupid ,redneck , country bumpkins.
Common sense is not in the Liberal vocabulary.
They think common sense is stupidity.

I personally believe that the South and other states that love America will rise again, only this time it will be against Washington.

Reply #37
Why would you possibly think he does not think it is wrong to use cell phones in theaters or to text while driving?

Teacher's folly.
A few years ago I suggested to the local school they should warn students about possible dangers from the over use of cell phones, they responded like I was a right-wing extremist. There is a false love for our kids in schools; it passes through teachers’ self serving feelings, not objective reality.

glen
Will & Mellor probably don't know who their mommies are....or their daddies either.
They were left in an alley somewhere.

Globug
I believe that you are correct. Those that really appreciate America and what it stands for live outside the major cities.

Too bad the city dwellers outnumber us, but the older folks remember America's greatness.

Tomorrow we elect a Republican Governor in Virginia.

Trickle down
The 'me generation' is the trickle from the 'greed is good' generation.

Respect for the rules??? One famous American once said " The Constitution, it is just a G*D D*mn piece of paper"

Then proceeded to write excuse notes on why the law did not apply to him.

But that was along time ago......

Reply #41
Globug: I hope you're right about states rising against Washington.

Excellent article!
FTA: "And it seems funny that very few of them understand that they are simply experiencing the real-world consequences of their own liberal ideas."

Life has a way of catching up to you once you're a "grown-up."

The Liberal Math Teacher
I have a friend who just started his second year teaching math at a local high school.

He's a cool guy who voted for Obama, where's Obama t-shirt's, likes what he says, etc. but 'doesn't talk politics' becasue he doesn't follow any current events since the election.

Anyway, he's been complaining lately about his students using their cell phones in his classes, him reciting the school rules, him reminding them of the school rules...once, twice...then sending them to the principles office.

Turns out the principle doesn't want to actually DO anything about the infractions (Columbine, you know) so he just sends them back into the classroom for my friend to deal with.

After a month of constant interuption, my teacher friend went online to purchase a celluar signal interupter and installed it in the ceiling of his classroom.

You can imagine the emotional hemorhaging that occurred when the students found they couldn't text and go online in the middle of class.

After complaining that their cell phones weren't working they all started asking to 'go to the bathroom' and were quite upset to be told 'No, go to the bathroom BEFORE you come into the classroom'.

My teacher friend is young but he is beggining to experience firsthand the difference between 'theory and reality'.

I just may make a Conservative out of one day...but I'm not bettin' on it.

When I talked to him as to why he voted for Obama but really didn't know about any of the 'changes' that he's trying to make, I told him this:

Awareness + Action = Positive Change

Awareness without Action = Daydreaming

Action without Awareness = Nightmare

His vote represents the latter.

So, each generation whines
about the new one but we "survive".
That may be so, but only up to a point.
As was pointed out Moynihan warned about this defining deviancy down and he was a liberal dem. Now, the foulest language is prevelant on TV when kids can be exposed to it.
We have mainstream programs featuring perverts as if they were normal, awards are given to "artists" who extoll drugs, demean women and call for the murder of police officers.

Drugs are rampant in the schools, 50 years ago there were virtually none, there was no need for a cop in a school either because the teachers were respected and didn't have to take crap from some snot-nosed kid.


The feminists get to murder the unborn as a "choice" yet we wonder why we get school shootings like Columbine, did anyone ask if either of those two loonies had a sibling that never made it out of the womb?

Might do a study about the link between the callous regard for human life exhibited by liberals on that issue and school shootings.

We had standards in this country once, most people tried to live up to a certain American ideal and the society was the better for it.

The dems, in their never-ending search for votes, lowered those standards little by little until we are up to our noses in this cesspool.

This is not what "survival" means to us who grew up in the America of the 50's, those were the best years this nation ever had.

Liberals
Liberals may denigrate, demean and mock Glenn Beck, but one thing they CANNOT do is to offer any coherent argument to counter his facts. Glenn Beck has more common sense and integrity in his little finger than the entire Democratic Party.

REPLY #37
You missed the point - the article is about behavior and values, not cell phones.

Great Article Mike!
I think most of this meltdown started when we started letting the psuedo science of psychology into the schools in large numbers. Do-gooder liberals, armed with their masters degrees in Psych 101 (most likely from the College of Liberal Arts), started ranting that self esteem was the most important aspect of education and future success. Kids with high self-esteem learned better and went farther, they claimed. Although they couldn't cite one study, validated by another, that spanned more than one persons controlled experiment designed to prove their own theory, over the course of one year.

I remember seeing my kid's papers where spelling wasn't counted because the teacher didn't want to damage their self esteem. They did not stay in that class. Eventually, this ideology has led to awards for nothing, expectations for nothing, and a brutal slap in the face when they hit the real world.

That's why "Generation Me" likes Obama. He's promised to give them something for nothing. Its what they expect so they can feed their unearned self esteems.

its the irony
Many are missing the point. He’s pointing to an eventual holocaust of old folks. All us old coots are driving health care costs, as this generation is forced into higher taxes, and higher premiums they will readily agree to just stop offering so much medicine to old people who are aren’t good for anything anyway. I’ve seen this irony for decades, as the sixties generation reaches advanced age they will be dispatched by the values they spawned.

Hardnox (#46)
Watching Virginia from here in Pennsylvania I can only say I'm glad your commonwealth is coming to its senses. We need to do the same next year and rid ourselves of "Fast Eddie" Rendell and his ilk. Let's do whatever we can to push for Chris Christie in NJ. With B-HO stumping all day yesterday against him it would be delicious to send him to the Governor's mansion instead of Corzine.

St. Denis, and Libertarians, take note
Oh, but Libertarians will argue they have Constitutional rights to self-destruct and bring their society down with them.

They find it in the dead letter of the law.

Another college professor
PREACH IT, MIKE!!! I also went into college level teaching because I saw the problems my father (a high school principal) had with students. I couldn't IMAGINE that college level students would act like high school students.

Boy, was I wrong! A nursing student threatened to "cut my a**" in the parking lot because she claimed I parked in "her" space. A biology professor resigned because of death threats. I had to call the campus police several times to remove students from my classroom. I had to defend myself on several occasions in grade appeals (and won each one.) I was the target of claims of racial discrimination by students who failed exams because they never attended class, didn't pay attention when they did appear, and never studied. I can't tell you how many times students defied my rules on cell phones, texting, talking out of turn, arriving late, leaving early, asking for special favors in test-taking and turning in homework. One student angrily yelled at me upon learning he got a C for the course, "I paid my tuition, so where's my A?!"

Unfortunately our administrators bought into the diversity game, cowered in the face of baseless threats of lawsuits, indirectly punished professors and did not support us as we tried to maintain a classroom in which real learning took place.

Truly, the inmates are running the asylum! I finally decided I couldn't tolerate another year of absolute chaos, no support whatsoever, and being punished by administrators for setting standards and having a spine (not to mention my desire to actually TEACH SOMETHING.)

I used to think a college education was worth something. I'm not so sure anymore. I love my subject matter and love it when I can actually TEACH. I wonder how many others have left teaching for the same reasons?

You think this is bad,
Wait less than fifteen years when the current generation that is being produced by the 70% illegitmacy rate, and coming of age in this environment, reaches puberty.

Perhaps Islam or some other form of totalitarianism will be necessary to save us from ourselves.

will in CA
I am working hard to figure you out. I have it narrowed down to three possibilities.

1.) You were a student of Mike Adams and you failed his class horribly, thus flunking out of college completely. Upon returning home the only occupation you could find was that of a fry cook at a Sonic or Wendy's.
2.) You work for Mike Adams and he actually pays you to spout the absolute drivel that constantly pours from your mind.
3.) You are a mouthy punk of about 17. Who learned his history from text books printed in Caracas, and personally edited by Hugo Chavez.


Cost of ignoring absolutes
Mike.

I’d bet that if your classes were in thermodynamics, mechanical statics, strength of materials, or even Newtonian physics, you’d see far better behavior. These are subjects of engineering, and engineering students appreciate that there are absolute truths that are not subject to opinion/feelings, and, when they are ignored or violated, people die or are terribly injured.

The principal (#56)
Virginians have seen their folly of staying home last November when few felt as there was little difference in the candidates.

Deed's polling numbers dropped when Barry stumped for him in Norfolk last week. Let's hope he has the same effect for Corzine.

We Virginians hope and pray that 2010 will mark the end of the Progressive movement and the return of common sense by actual adults.

Too bad the GOP elite haven't woken up yet. We need to get rid of the RINOs too.

The recipe for success is simple: embrace Reagan principles and the country will wrap their arms around it.

Classroom Experience
Does anyone with class room experience want to dispute Dr. Adams? It would appear that teachers and administrators agree with Dr Adams.
Are there statistics to back up Dr Adams? Standardized test scores? Arrests and Conviction Rates? Drug and Alcohol Abuse Rates?
Dr Adams appears to be correct and his only adversaries on this topic appear to have a personal issue against Dr Adams: no facts or logic.

Hate to break it to you Mr. Adams....
... but your writing about this for the past "seven years" is nothing to brag about.

I and many other real Americans have recognized it was coming ever since that evening Nikita Kruchev took off his shoe and pounded on the lecturn as he called all his sleeper cells within the Demwits'NCrapheads Party to action.

The critical series of events to follow:
- Mr. Sam dies.
- JFK dies.
- The corrupt drunk LBJ is easily controlled.
- RFK dies.
- In 1968 Nikita's call to action was completed within the Democratic Party. The communist wing of the party has complete and total control.

The only thing the conservative movement has been able to do since then, is to serve as an impedence. Real American conservatives will never be able to reverse the progressive drift, they can only serve to slow it.

BTW: Your attempt to generalize a whole generation as sociopaths is just flat out ignorant sounding. For the sociopaths among us are the hyphenated-Americans who have willingly donned the hyphens being issued by the Demwits'NCrapheads Party of America. And, this has absolutely nothing to do with generation.

How convenient! The leftists have

proven exactly what Adams' writes about!

Not only is the left rude and disrespectful, they're foul, despicable,and abhorrent.




TH admin!
Please get your tech people to work on the comment section for this site, I noticed it double posted my last post and clearly several others' posts as well.

I don't need to tell a person they are stupid twice. We can all be stupid at times, and ignorant as well, but some, no names needed feel a need to display these failings on a normal basis.

And to the poster who said that mellor and will are from an alley..PLEASE, there isn't an alley in America filthy enough to have those to reprobates.

will

Chapman is not a Conservative. He is a Libertarian and his articles can be read on Reason.com.


Amen!
As a retired lecturer in a state university, all I can say is that Adams is absolutely correct. I've been following his articles for years and I can testify that he tells it like it is in "academentia." My only consolation at times was the knowledge that by the time these students were actually running the country, I'd be dead and gone. Of course, there were exceptional students that warmed my heart and kept me in the profession, but many, if not most, fit in the category of sociopath.

Chuck

You might wish to read Reason, as well. Obviously, you fail to understand Libertarianism and, certainly, you do not understand it when coupled with Constitutionalism.

St Denis
And it surprises you that will got his facts wrong why exactly?

Here we go again, Mike
"...As a college professor for the last 17 years I have seen evidence of a slow but steady movement away from an acceptance of rules and, indeed, moral absolutes altogether. And it’s not too tough to see how that leads to rampant self-absorption...."

They are conservatives coming home to roost. Remember conservatism is only about the individual and anyone who works for government or society is wrong, lazy or uncompetitive? These are your children. Are you ready to repent?

I shall tell all, Will & Mellor...
post on these pages looking for a moral compass,guidance and love, yet they have not been able to let go of their liberal indoctrinated anger yet.

Will and Mellor will find Christ through these readings and postings, and once Christ is in thier lives, they shall contribute greatly to teaching the moral relativists the misery of being atheist.

It takes great faith to be a non-believer as one looks around the world. It takes little faith to believe in God, just an open heart.

really!????
These kids are not just conservatives! Most of them are dems/libs.

A generation of contadictions
To quote Bill O'Reilly "to be fair." End of quote. Be advised: there are many of this generation serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Re: Will
Scott in PA, I posit a fourth possibility for Will's lack of civility toward Dr. Adams:

Perhaps Will was molested at an early age by a pseudo-religious cultist and close relative, who bears a striking physical resemblance to MSA.

Just a thought.

Ivan

Can parents be blamed
when the teacher's union, the ACLU, Hollywood, liberal churches and all major media is working against their success? Remember Hillary's infamous quote, " "It takes a village (to screw your kid up)." This has been the plot of the Secular Humanist since the early 1900's.

Will and Mellor
I have no problem with people who choose to be gay. I have gay friends and I treat them with the same respect I accord my heterosexual friends. I personally believe in your right to choose your sexual orientation, whether I or anyone likes it or not. What I do resent, however, is your leaders using you as patsies to further their own power. Your leaders are no different to me than the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons who continually champion the "cause of racism" to make more money for themselves instead of working to find ways to end it for all of us.

There is nothing stopping either of you from marrying each other in a private ceremony. There's no law that says you and your chosen spouse cannot pledge your undying devotion to each other in front of friends and family. The consequences of your choice is that in most states you can't get a marriage license and in many companies your same sex spouse will not be eligible for your medical benefits. So what? If being gay is all that important to you, your love for your partner that compelling, why do you care what anyone else thinks or what you might gain?

I don't think you really understand what your leaders are using you for, and that is the gravest injustice of all--mainly because you don't see just how badly you're being abused.

You both seem to suffer from heterophobia. So how are you different or above those you call homophobic? Answer: you're not. You're just as base and intolerant as those heterosexuals who can't or won't tolerate you.

To poster # 10
How right you are!
I remember the day that I saw Kruschev band that shoe! I was in HS and I knew as you did that it would come!

Most intelligent youth
will become responsible, conservative adults. Life's hard lessons usually wake a soul.

Demented doof! That's what I was

going to say... about YOU! "Here we go again!

WHO says, ".. conservatism is only about the individual and anyone who works for government or society is wrong, lazy or uncompetitive?"

That old reading and comprehension problem is getting worse and worse.

The Conservatives are about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY...

No on ever said "anyone who works for government or society is wrong, lazy or uncompetitive."


Sociopathy
is a personality disorder for which there exists no effective treatment, and is rather more serious than thoughtlessness in class.

Reality will have the desired effect on most of these youngsters. Similar doom-saying about 'Generation X/Slackers' turned out to be misplaced as they found they had to work for a living. This generation will also change its tune when no longer supported by others.

I've always believed
the human bonding process between parents and babies kept children from becoming sociopaths. It is one of the wonderful gifts from God. A greatly loved child that learns to be obedient to parents produces a better adult.

Glenn Beck Is Not The Only One
"No people will tamely surrender their liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and virtue is preserved. On the contrary, when people are universally ignorant and debauched in their manners, they will sink under their own weight without the aide of foreign invaders."
Samuel Adams

Adams is really young
I've seen similar complaints for the last four generations, at least. You don't become a conservative because you gain wisdom as you grow older, it's due to a change in body chemistry. Get a hormone shot, Adams.

Glen Becks quote, by the way, could have come from the 1960s. To my ear it sounds as though he is plagiarizing the 1960s.

My last teaching job
I too taught college students for the last 8 years. I am looking for a new job outside of teaching. The last school I taught at was a diploma mill for adult students. When I raised this issue with the dept. chair, he said "it's all about keeping the federal loan money rolling in so it can pay our salaries". The students constantly complained when I enforced standards. They could not write, would not read, and did not follow instructions.

To Anne...
... if I may finish your thought regarding, "No on[e] ever said 'anyone who works for government or society is wrong, lazy or uncompetitive'...", it's just that after 45 years of Affirmative Action wrong, lazy and uncompetitive public sector workers is the norm!

Ivan

Mark
Any member of the christian right is neither

TrickleupPolitics: Exactly right!

"it's all about keeping the federal loan money rolling in so it can pay our salaries."

When my daughter was at U.MD working on her doctorate, her dept. chair, a FAR LEFT "university political appointee" (yes!) who taught one class, and abysmally at that... was actually being paid to write and publish!

Colleges and universities are not in the business of education.. they're in the business of big business...

And how many kids go to college to be EDUCATED? Few!


This societal problem began
in the early 60's with the publication of a book by Dr. Benjamin Spock entitled "Baby and Child Care" Dr. Spock turned out to be a socialist who espoused, in his books, child raising techniques that resulted in several subsequent "me" generations. I was 20 year old in 1964 when our son was born and my well meaning mother-in-law gave us this book. I read it and thought "what a bunch of crap" and promptly threw it in the trash. Unfortunately far to many of my generation did not do the same and now you can see the results in society every day. I really do believe Dr. Benjamin Spock is responsible for most of what is wrong with our society today. (And for the dolts who think there is some connection, Dr. Spock bears no relationship to Gene Roddenberry's Mr. Spock of Star Trek fame).

SWolf-Anne-StD-ADLoggy-HJake-Others
I recall the 1 TIME I acted up in school. I got 1 A$$ BEATING at school and 2 A$$ BEATINGS when I got home. My Dad was 1 of 9 children, so naturally I had LOTS of cousins growing up. 3 of Dad's siblings chose the Dr. Spock Method of child rearing. Amongst the 11 cousins from those 3 aunts, ALL 11 turned out DEEPLY dysfunctional in ways ranging from Serial Adultery to Chronic Addiction. Amongst the cousins from Dad and his 5 siblings that chose traditional child rearing, the WORSE thing you find is divorce.

Ivan Yurkenov: Unfortunately, you have

a good point!


College Students
I am an adjunct instructor at a local university. I teach remedial algebra. I will be banning lap tops from the classroom because instead of accessing the CourseCompass(textbook) site the students are instant messaging or playing games. Students forget to turn off cell phones, come in late, leave early, don't complete homework, don't come for review sessions before the test then complain when they fail. They want special privileges such as more time or retakes. The have sob stories. I have found the students who try the hardest are older. The students who don't are younger and school is being paid by parents or the government. I pity the employers of these students. I will not pass them if they have not earned the grade.

classroom discipline
As a retired public school teacher, I envy Mike’s freedom in the classroom. In our district, teachers were expressly forbidden from deducting points from grades for disciplinary reasons. Instead we had to enter each misbehaving student into a five-step behavior plan, which meant in essence they each got four free passes to do what ever they liked. Oh, guess who was teaching the class while the teacher was filling out the behavior plan—nobody. This was an incentive not to start any behavior plans unless the behavior was just too egregious to ignore.

Mike Adams
I live on the Eastern Shore of Virginia. We have two counties, Accomack and Northampton. Northampton votes blue, Accomack until 2008 voted red. The kids in Accomack are not disruptive and achieve well, Northampton is a horror. I personally know three people who taught in Northampton in the past three years and left. Two got positions in Accomack and one is in a Methodist Seminary. Each of the three said that discipline was non existent, parents constantly created problems when their kids were chastised and the achievment levels are the among the lowest in the state. Red and Blue. It speaks for itself.

todays young
I am simply tired of spoiled brats with no manners. They're in restaurants ruining the other diners dinner. They're in movies, talking loudly, and at the mall, knocking you down if you don't move out of their way. I see and hear them throwing their fits in the grocery when Mommy doesn't buy them what they demand.

"Time Out" is not getting the job done. I have four granddaughters who don't know how to smile and shake hands, say please and thank you, or show common manners. Unlike their parents, I am not afraid to damage their little egos by popping their little rears. Their egos need damaging and I'm just the old gal that can do it!

SOCIOPATHS IN THE WORK PLACE

When I managed a department in a mortgage company, I would employ college students to work in the copy room and file room. During a ten year period I had to terminate four of these employees for the following reasons: (They were all given three warnings before termination.)

1. Surfing the net during office hours.

2. Repeatly late for work.

3. Talking on the telephone for hours with friends during office hours.

4. Dishonesty.

Mike Adams experiences in the classroom carries over into the workplace with some young people.
However, I also employed many young people who were responsible and dependable and my observation of the difference was the way these children are raised at home. Teaching good values at home goes a long way in rearing a responsible adult.

humble suggestion for MA
Teach a class called "Following Instructions - 101." The only requirements to get an A is that no one is late after the bell rings, and that no cell phone ever rings during class. They may have a single absence. Breaking either rule gains an immediate F.


Home Schooling?
Some friends of mine have told me that colleges prefer the home schooled: disciplined, respectful and intelligent. Does anyone have any facts: standardazed test scores, crimmival records, drug or alcohol statistics to support or dispute the home schoolers are over all the future good citizens that this country needs?

Maybe that is the was to go.

Hal Loses It Again
The rude and egotistical children are all ours? Why Hal, you've told us over and over that conservatives are a tiny vanishing minority. If so, these can't be our children-- we're too old and there are hardly any of us anyway, according to you and others.

So pick one. You can't say both.

The Road to Serfdom
Chapter One: "The Abandoned Road"

Chapter one begins with the complaint that Western Man has abandoned the ideas of the 19th century, which were leading to continuous progress toward a better life for all.

Hayek believes that we need to accept the fact that we made an error in pursuing our "well meaning idea;s." Previously, in the generation that could remember what life was like before the first world war, society was governed by the idea of laissez-faire. "We have progressively abandoned that freedom in economic affairs without which personal and political freedom has never existed in the past."

We had seen a "...gradual transformation of a rigidly organized hierarchic system into one where men could at least attempt to shape their own life" which was closely associated with the rise of commerce.

But nearing the 20th century people became dissatisfied with 19th century liberalism. "...we have...undertaken to dispense with the forces which produced unforeseen results and to replace the impersonal and anonymous mechanism of the market by collective and "conscious" direction of all social forces to deliberately chosen goals."

Hayek foreshadows Adams in saying that we had abandoned the morality of the 19th century and placed man in the center of the universe.

Seawolf Reply #51
As someone who grew up in the '50's, I totally endorse your post. The '50's really was a better time when real values were inculcated in the young. What changed it? I believe it was the self-indulgence that came along with the hippie generation, Woodstock, widespread use of illegal drugs, and the Vietnam war protests. The pendulum is still swinging in that direction.

Bill_VA: re Home Schooling?

YES, the kids who are home schooled have, across the board, higher standardized test scores, and across the board do much better in college and university than do the children who are products of public school.

And second to the home schooled children, are the children who attend private and/or parochial school...

ALL do better in all areas than do public schooled children.


Doctor MSA thanks for
putting the spotlight on the real problems in the class room. Respect for the Educator is oblivious to the current crop of numb nutz in todays classroom.

I was instructor in a private institution in Florida, teaching Comuptor Engineering Technology during 80's. I was fortunate not to have many like the ones you see today.

I instructed in absolute practice and theory and was either correct or not. No middle ground came into play.

Todays kids have NO moral compass or conscience much like a lot of the generation past now in politics. True, we were challenged to question authority, do your own thing, if it feels good do, but don't screw with me attitude.

Relenting to the feel good crowd in GovCo presently has proven beyond any doubt a collision course whos eruption is close.

They like the terrorist we are engaged with understand only one thing and it is obviiously NOT reason.

Keep up with the truth, it will set us all free.

Hal Donahue

When you write this (Mark
Any member of the christian right is neither), Do your own thoughts compell your musings, or is this an indoctrination you cannot let go of?

A true Christain knows they are not right. And a true atheist does not know they are an angry lost soul.

Hall, You fit the mold I mentioned for Will and Mellor.

You post and debate in a conservative forum looking for the moral compass you lack,and the happiness you see in conservatives, but cannot grasp.

Just knowing you read these posts is a sign you have "hope -n- change" coming into your life.

Embrace Christ and you will find true happiness.

Dementia doof stammers....

"Any member of the christian right is neither"

Oh pa-lease! As my father would say, "Horsefeathers!!!"

And then he'd probably dress you down until you didn't know where you were or what day it was!

HA HA HA HA HA





I heartily agree with you Carol
I almost never go to concerts, but went to a Bob Segar concert 5 or 6 years ago because I love Segar. The people in front of me were terribly rude and smoking. There is a no smoking rule in the auditorium, but when I asked the young lady to quit smoking she ignored me. I very nearly summoned the police. She and her friends ruined the whole concert for me.

At the time I blamed the "yuppies" for their lack of manners and arrogant attitudes.

Two comments
1. In re "Red" and "Blue" to designate the Republican and Democrat parties. Throughout the world, red is the colour of the political left, of the communists, marxists, socialists, the Labour party, etc., whilst blue is the colour of the political right, conservatives, Tories, etc. Only in this country has that been reversed, by the Democrat party and their sycophants in the "major" media, in order to try to hide the fact that they are indeed leftists. How droll!
If you want a one-word summary of Professor Adams column, go to your dictionary, and look up the word "entropy." You will find several scientific definitions and also this meaning, "Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society." Note well the word "inevitable."

Folly of public education
Consider that if all education was not funded by government, and instead people purchased it like every other service, there would be mechanisms to deal with these problems and help prevent them. First, by having to purchase the education, the student (or parent) will have his own skin in the game. Second, by contracting with the school, the school will also require reasonable behaviour that doesn't interfere with other students education, or the safety of others there. The school will counsel problem students then kick them out if problems continue.

But with government funded education, it's no longer a contract with other citizens. Instead students are being "serviced" by government.

self centered youth
I agree with Mike and Glenn Beck and see it first hand in my work. It was told to us many years ago that no one would take us over that our culture would crumble from within and now it is happening .(School of Darkness- Bella Dodd ). We are left with spoiled rotten brats to lead( if you can call it that) the country , look what a great job the baby boom generation is doing..God help us !!

Dr. Druhl too busy for kids?
Dr. Druhl (#3 9:24 PM) writes: "Whatever happened to punishments for missing homework? My 8-year-old daughter went back to school the day after she "forgot" her homework. Was there any punishment? No; that was up to me as she lost out on some other privileges at home"

Most kids are being punished in school by getting a zero grade for the assignment. Schools should not used the threat of punishment as an incentive to do the required work. Schools need to stress the point, you are here to learn and failure to do the work means you will fail in class.

Making sure your kids are doing their homework is the responsibility of the parent. Do you expect the teacher to drop in every evening to remind your child to do your homework while you are watching re-runs of "Two and 1/2 Men"?.

An 8 year old child should never be punished for failure to do homework since you should be there every night to make sure they completing the assignments.

After a few years of this, they will understand homework needs to be done every night and now you can sit back and watch re-runs of "Two and 1/2 Men" in peace.




Thinking back...
on the years when I was raising 4 children...I cannot remember a moment when I questioned whether I needed to punish them, not punish them or pointing out the that their grievances were the result of their own behavior.

How hard is that? If children do not learn from their own parents, they grow up to be adults who feel like whatever they did wrong should be ignored, their anger about another child or teacher has merits, or they did it to themselves.

"Step Aside, Grandma"

This is part of the letter that Beck read from Time magazine. It is shockingly clear in how it shows the lack of morality and the sense of entitlement that so many young adults have...

"...Besides, this health-care debate isn’t about those over 30; it’s about the millions of uninsured, recently graduated young people saddled with loans we can’t imagine paying off, who are sick and tired of living in an abyss created by our elders’ stupidity. Obama would be smart to focus on college towns. Step aside, Grandma. We want health care, and we want it now."

Agnieszka Marczak,
Lincoln, R.I., U.S.


What's next? Drop dead, Mom and Dad, I want my inheritance, now?

A conservative is a liberal who's
been mugged by yuppies.

scott

Will never surprises me. I could write Will's posts because they are always the same. Doc Adams once told me that Will had written something about handcuffs and a tester bed. Now, he may have been joking, but no one can deny that Will exhibits the usual traits associated with obsession.

Like most Liberals, if you do not agree with them 100% of the time, then you must be a Conservative. Mario used to say that all moderates and centrists Democrats, i.e., Blue Dogs, should be purged from the Democratic Party. After a while, I reminded him that those moderates and centrists were the reason that the Democrats controlled both chambers in Congress. After that, he never brought it up again. It appears that Liberals have a problem understanding that actions have ramifications.

Two comments
1. With respect to the use of the colours "red" and "blue" to designate the republican and democrat parties consider this. Throughout the rest of the world, red is the colour of the political left, the communists, socialists, labour parties, etc., whilst blue is the colour of the political right, the conservatives, tories, etc. Only here was that reversed, by the democrat party and their sycophants in the so-called "major media." The reason is clearly to attempt to disguise the fact that the democrat party is ultra-left wing these days, totally captured by the radicals.
2. To summarise Dr. Adams article in one word, go to the dictionary and look up "entopy." In addition to the scientific definitions, you will find this meaning, "Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society. Note well that word, "inevitable."

It's not just kids
I've seen plenty of it in my generation (I'm 44) too, but it is the worst amongst those awful "baby boomers" (I'm talking about the older half, the ones who came of age in the 60s, not the 70s ones). 60s baby boomers act like they are the only people who matter. In college, my 80s generation used to mock them with "maybe he dropped too much acid in the 60s" whenever running into especially awful specimens.

Now that these washed up hippies are in their 60s, maybe those senior citizen "death panels" don't sound too bad after all!

Worshippers Of The Poor
There is nothing more interesting than the lives of the wealthy, it is the number one news item. The rich have replaced God as an object of worship. The poor spend most of their food money on the almost impossible dream of drawing the winning number. Nothing is as important to them as being a rich person. Those that attack the wealthy are seen as tools of the devil and are hated. Glenn Beck is the leading worshipper of the rich, he has millions of devotees. Those that oppose him are against American culture and are called worshippers of the poor.

OOPS!
I see that TH is back to problems with posts. I came back here to find that my original post was missing, so did another version of it, only to find that it was here after all, just clevrely hidden for a while. Sorry for the repetition.

What a cop out Jai
Jai (#6 11:01) writes: "As such, I decided at a very young age that I did not want to have children because I didn't want to bring up a child to be honorable and to know the meaning of respect while those all around could choose to act in a negative fashion and then be rewarded by society for it."


What an arrogant statement, at a young age you determine that you are a perfect parent and could raise perfect kids but sadly, we do not live in a perfect world. Thus you decided to live a life centered around own personal fulfillment.

No problems with anybody not having kids but you have no right to judge parents who take on this complicated task raising kids, parents who so willing give up their personal freedom and dedicate themselves to raising kids.



Correction #112
last sentence...they didn't do it to themselves so they need to go and find someone to blame.

Yo David
Your relatives may be on to something. College professors are in a unique position to observe cultural trends. Believe it or not, there are actually standards of behavior in a college classroom. Did it ever occur to you the students Giles refers to may be a distraction to others in the classroom who are actually trying to make the most of their time there? Are you saying the miscreants get to be disruptive, just because they want to? If so, you're making Giles point, they are self absorbed socio-paths who look at the world, but only see themselves.

My own similar experience
I taught Math at a state university. I once had a student ask if he could take the test early, Thursday, rather than Friday, because he knew he would be attending a party Thursday night, and would be too drunk/hungover to take the test on Friday. I have many other stories like this.

Sad but true:
Our local school had the parents of a gang member go to the school board to object because he had gotten punished for fighting. "He needs to be in a gang so the gang can protect him when he is attacked."

One student in band insisted on sitting on the front row and talking to everyone around her. When the teacher told her to be quiet because she was distrubing the class, her parents demanded that the teacher be fired because he was trying to inhibit her creativity. Later, when band awards were handed out (and a scholarship), her parents went to the school board and insisted that she get the highest honor. When the scholarship was given to three students (she was one of them) her parents insisted that the scholarships be taken away from the other two students and given to her alone because "she deserved it".

And we wonder why people like this end up in divorces and trouble with the law all the time.

Though one must remember...
The 1960s conservatives were just livid about the democratization of education following world war two.

Previous to world war two only the children of the top 10% of wealth holders went to college in the United States.

In a sense what we have is the difference between the well behaved children of the privileged and the more exuberant children of the common man, with their skepticism of the privileged enclave of the university.

folks
You sound like typical old folks complaining about the young. I work and interact with a lot of them 80% blue and guess what? They are better than we were at their age. Stop whining. If Mike is incapable of teaching an interesting course then I suggest he find another career.

Yo melpol
How do you know the rich have replaced God? I know some wealthy people who live godly lives. Don't make the mistake of thinking money determines the kind of person one becomes. Money only gives one the freedom to become the kind of person they really are. If you are a poor person with a criminal mind, winning the lottery will not make you a moral person. You'll likely be a criminal in a better neighborhood.

Yo Hal
You must be working with ACORN volunteers.

John Adams writes...
"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty".

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other".

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide".

"The fundamental article of my political creed is that despotism, or unlimited sovereignty, or absolute power, is the same in a majority of a popular assembly, an aristocratical council, an oligarchical junto, and a single emperor. Equally arbitrary, cruel, bloody, and in every respect diabolical".

Yo Hal
You must be working with ACORN volunteers.

Proud Liberal
When I went to high school in the early sixties, the behavior permitted today would have led to immediate expulsion. Also, every Thursday a few dozen of us brought our guns to school. Thursday was rifle club. They were kept in our school lockers. This happened in thousands of schools across the country. Nobody got shot.

So tell me again about the exuberant children of the common man

Hal
Gee, Hal I see your nonsense isn't limited to political views. Since when is respect for others an old folks issue. I have 4 kids and all of them know how to behave when outside the home. They may speak out of turn like any kid but they know when they've screwed up.

I just don't get old folks like you. Everyday, the crap you write makes me think you could have used a little explaining to about appropriate behavior.

Saddest Part...

The Liberals line up and defend such nonsense.

Alas, this is their world... Ignorance & Want.

C'mon Adams, be a John Galt
Go on Intellectual strike. Take your mind and abilities off the market. Let the liberal intellectual world collapse of its own accord.

Go into law enforcement. Remember, those who can, do, those who can't, teach. But, then again, as a UNC faculty member you are a government employee, slopping down at the public trough. And that over payment comes at less risk.

Could it possibly be that the vast majority of your students have made a rational choice on the content of your lectures and decided their in class time would be better spent in other pursuits?

Obviously you have the authority of your position, but you still have to earn the respect of your students, something you have been losing for the last 17 years.


wbheff: red and blue
Back when I was a child and young teen, the Democrats were considered the "Party of the Blue Collar Workers" and the Republicans were considered the "Party of the Rich".

At that time the Democrats ruled the South representing the middle class and the Republicans ruled the North although the unions there were basically Democrat.

Then the Democrat Party discovered minorities. They began to promice them anything to get their votes and paid for it with taxes on the blue collar workers - the middle class. As a result, many of the blue collar workers fled to the Republicans. Here in the South, most did. In the north the union people followed the commands of the union officials and most stayed Democrat.

So actually the red and blue colors were correct originally. The membership has changed over the years.

Dan doesn't need public education
"First, by having to purchase the education, the student (or parent) will have his own skin in the game. Second, by contracting with the school, the school will also require reasonable behavior that doesn't interfere with other students education,"

Having one child in public school, the other in private school, I agree with you 100%.

Now I ask, how do you expect many young parents to afford the $20K bill for 2 kids in school? Of course the standard conservative responds will be, then don't have kids.

And that would happen, couples would stop having kids and our population growth may become negative. And here is a link to what is happening in Europe concerning low population growth.

http://devereaux.blogtownhall.com/2009/10/15/the_real_popul ation_bomb.thtml

I shall point out, you are not really paying for your kids public school education. Indirectly your property tax is paying off your education. Your primary education cost around ~$140K including a low interest rate. Your $2-3K property tax bill is paying off this debt.


Hitting the nail on the head
In reply:

Dan Location: CO
Reply # 109
Date: Nov 2, 2009 - 9:53 AM EST

Dan, you are so right on...and the state of public education is the designed fate of public funded health care!

No consumer choice, no consumer input, and no accountability for successful outcomes!!!

Right-on, brother!

Ivan

Prominent conservative Eric Voegelin
however, places the decline of morality in Western Man in the 9th century, when men first placed themselves at the center of the universe, displacing God.

Hal Drunkahue
You sound like a Blithering Drunken Moron. Typical Liberal, feed the addiction first!

Robert:
About Hal:

Ben Franklin once stated, "When a man is young, if he isn't a liberal, he has no heart. When a man is old, if he isn't a conservative, he has no brain."

I think that explains why Hal is still a liberal.

Just observe
A schools graduation ceremony and you will see what that education meant to the students. You will clearly see the standards of discipline, education, respect for others, respect for authority and self respect that was taught and enforced in that school.

tr.
"-i'm surprised to see you write this."

Why? I had this same discussion with someone yesterday, who refused to believe that I was a Constitutional Libertarian. As I said then, it would appear that many Liberals consider everyone else to be Conservatives.

"i thought you were a champion of the new york district 23 conservative, not the gop candidate."

I don't believe that I have said anything about Hoffman. I did make a comment on Scozzy when Mario was writing that Owens was beating her and that it would be the first time since the Civil War that a Democrat won the district. In his ignorance, he failed to understand that Scozzy was further left than Owens, the Democrat. She has never met a tax increase that she was unable to support. She has been in bed with ACORN and SEIU. And, more...

"i guess you don't agree with her 100% of the time."

You would have that right, but it is not because of some Liberal-Conservative paradigm.

"democrats are the big tent party and the republicans are having a civil war amongst themselves."

Oh, I think that the Democrats are having their own little civil war party. It is the fight between the far Left and the Moderates. Only last week, the Kossacks and the Puffy Hos were screaming for the scalps of Bayh and other Democrats, who aren't on board with the Government Option.

re: Kudos!!!!!
Fantastic article, nice and way to take off the gloves and let people know that this country's greatness is yet but a generation away from collapse!!! If you study history you can see this pattern over and over agin. So, if you like the way this country is headed then don't do squat, but if you are like me and you are afaird for your life, then you fight anyway you can to keep this country under the umbrella of the Const. If you pull the yea lever in 2010 and 2012 then you are part of the problem!!!!

Losing respect?
Dear Bleeding Heart,
Losing the respect of self centered sociopaths is no great loss.




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