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Thursday, May 28, 2009
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Mike's Peak
by Mike Adams
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I could not have been in a worse mood when I wrote the check. It was the biggest one I had ever written but at least matters were settled. I could begin to put things back together again. Going back to work immediately afterwards proved to be a huge mistake.

The letter that was sitting in my mailbox wasn’t the first to make me question my commitment to teaching in the UNC system. It was more like the straw that broke the camel’s back. Or, I should say, almost broke the camel’s back - at risk of getting ahead of myself.

I called Frank and talked to him at length. He wanted me to resign and come to work at a school of journalism at a private Christian university. I thought maybe it was time. I decided not to write the letter of resignation until I got back from a three-day trip to Colorado. I was going there to teach at Summit Christian Ministries (www.Summit.org). That was Frank’s idea, too.

I packed my bags with a nice blue suit, my favorite Carolina blue tie, and a bottle of pills my doctor gave me to help me sleep. I hadn’t slept well for months as the turmoil in my life was being resolved slowly in the court system. So far, things were going well. But I still could not seem to sleep.

When I got off the plane in Colorado Springs I was taken aback by the beauty of my surroundings. Then I found out Delta had lost my baggage. At the time, I really needed to lose a little baggage.

I would later realize that God was sending me a message. I’d be lecturing in jeans and a polo shirt dressed like everyone else. God isn’t impressed by Joseph A. Bank. And He’s offended by insomnia. Insomnia is another form of worrying. All worrying (faithlessness) is offensive to God.

We ate dinner on picnic tables next to the old Summit hotel at the base of Pike’s Peak. I was enjoying the cool breeze and the lack of mosquitoes when Judson told me it was time to speak. I had just met Judson a few hours before but for some reason he seemed like a son to me.

I spoke for about an hour during which I felt the most awesome flow of energy from me to the audience and back. If it felt like the Holy Spirit was in the room it was probably because the Holy Spirit was in the room. I met so many incredible kids there afterwards and felt such excitement that I feared I would not get any sleep before giving two more speeches the following morning.

That night I slept like a baby.

The next morning I gave a speech called “Unequally Yoked.” I discussed the lengths universities will go to in order to infringe upon the rights of Christians at public universities. During the speech, I referred to the Southworth case, which, theoretically, prevents public universities from collecting mandatory student activity fees and then refusing to fund Christian groups and activities.

After the speech, Doc Noebel, the President of Summit, introduced himself saying “Mr. Southworth is a Summit graduate.” I already knew Summit was there to teach kids a Christian worldview – one that would help them survive a secular onslaught in college. Now I knew that Summit gave young men and women the courage to fight back. Even to the Supreme Court, if necessary.

After Doc took me to lunch we sat out on the front porch of that old hotel. I was enjoying the cool summer breeze that was flowing through the mountains. A man and his wife were there from Iowa spending the afternoon with their teenager who was enrolled in Summit. “How often do you hear from former students?” the man asked. Without hesitation, Doc replied “Every day.”

About ten minutes later, a fellow – I believe his name was Harris - came walking up the steps to shake Doc’s hand. “You probably don’t remember me,” he said. “I was one of your students back in 1962. Summit Christian Ministries changed my life.”

That afternoon I went with the kids to play sports – volleyball, tennis, etc. After a few minutes I took a rest because I hadn’t adjusted to the 7000 foot altitude. A few minutes later, someone - who knew I used to play for a living – shoved a guitar in my hand. I played a few tunes before we headed to the grill for supper.

I don’t know exactly what heaven is going to be like but I know it will involve perpetual worship – the type one experiences when admiring God’s creation. And I know it will involve joyful fellowship with one’s brothers and sisters in Christ. In that sense, Summit is the closest thing to heaven on earth I’ve ever seen.

When my luggage finally arrived, I called Delta to change my flight arrangements. They assumed that losing my luggage prevented me from finishing my business in Colorado. The truth is that I was having too much fun to leave.

When I got back to North Carolina I called one of my lawyers, Travis Barham, at the Alliance Defense Fund. I told him that far from wanting to quit I was ready to get back in the trenches and try to make things right in the UNC system. When he asked why I seemed so rejuvenated and full of fighting spirit I told him about my week at Summit. That’s when Travis told me he was a graduate of Summit Christian Ministries.

“I should have known,” I told him. And I really should have known.

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Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.
 
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Dr. Adams


You just fulfil my life!





Wow, Michael.

I'm alarmed at the amount of God-talk and seeming paranoia that is creeping into your columns.

It's almost like you're slowly going mad and becoming hyper-obsessed with the supernatural.

I get the feeling you're unstable right now and being sucked into the black hole of religiosity. I believe this is the time for one of your stalwart readers to track you down and clandestinely rescue you from your madness; perform an intervention.

Our thoughts are with you.

By the way, Mike,
descent into madness aside, this column is very clean, straightforward prose. You should nuture this style (instead of the cynical, "satiric" style you generally foist on us).

This is better: Simple. Clean. Spare. Evocative.

Very nice.

A bit behind it...
Um... excuse my ignorance (mainly for missing about a year or so of your articles up until about 2 months ago) but I am somewhat confused by the articles from yesterday and today.
Brain tumor?
Lawsuit?
Huge cheque?
MSM actually wanting to talk to you?
Thinking bad thoughts with a .45 in the room?

Dr. Adams, You would have to be one of the last people I would wish the hardships of life upon but, inevitably, hardships in life tend to want to visit us all. What makes the difference is how you handle them and come out the other side.

I guess I tend to think more about life and dealing with problems in a fashion similar to what I imagine Doug Giles would be: Pull up your socks and resolve the problem - and if you want to go to pieces, do it later (when and if you have time).

Considering that I also imagine you to *not* be one of the weak-willed moonbats (ie: any socialist-, communist-, drug-dealer-, muslim-apologist that thinks that the world has to bend over backwards to meet the demands of people who will gladly take your money and think you stupid for giving it (funded by the taxpayer), I will say that you're made of tougher stuff than you think - with the help of your saviour, you will pull through this.

So listen up, buddy! You're not going anywhere because this world needs more people like you to rag on the femi-nazis and self-proclaimed intelligentsia in academia that wouldn't know what a day of hard work was if it jumped up and bit them on the arse!

I prefer....
...the cynical... the satiric... and particularly the sarcastic columns.
(just a side-bar after reading Will's comment :)

Beautiful
Thank you

I need to read it again
It IS beautiful, but what was the "check" about? I'll read it again...

Still no check...
what was the "biggest check" written for? How did I miss this? Mike?

Very nice, but yes, still mysterious
I assume you are purposely keeping us in the dark until the right time to reveal "the rest of the story." I have REALLY enjoyed your last two posts, Mike. It is clear God is doing something in your life and that He has not given up on you yet. That is encouragement to the rest of us who are also going through challenging times. I also enjoy your other posts. I know they both give insights into who you are and where you are in life. I for one will not put controls or expectations on what you can write. I find myself a little partial to your introspective side and what you are currently learning. However, I think it might get a bit old after a while, as do your satires. God is a God of balance and it good to see it in you, as well as your honesty in sharing.
Thanks!

I think it is obvious...
...that the man is having a mental breakdown,or at least was.And he is documenting it in his columns.I hope his wife locks up his guns.Out of sight,out of mind.

Will
Well that tide you were talking about seems to have ebbed and in your homestate of all places. Have you and your ilk been harrassing the grandmothers and children of the CA Supreme Court justices yet? Actually, I think full investigations should be done on all of you by State and federal agents ameniable to the policies of the SPCA, PETA and others for Gerbil abuse. Don't you feel any compassion for that poor, helpless little critter?

What will happen when gays leave CA for those other liberal states where men can marry men? Hollywood would collaspe and have to make good movies again, San Francisco will become a better place and many other good things.

To All (Except Will)
I think Mike has been involved in maybe two lawsuits. One is where he is suing the UNCW for denying his professorship due to his Christian and conservative beliefs and the only other I could find was from a liberal U.S. apologist student who complained about Mike offending her in responding to a mass email she sent sayng it was our fault 9/11 happened.

Anybody know of anything else?

First column I read.
I love Mike's columns BECAUSE "of the cynical, "satiric" style" thank you very much Will baby. I love that Mike stands up to the enlightened peoples of university who brainwash our kids. It’s like when my daughter’s Sociology professor (female,duh) was trashing Rush Limbaugh as a woman hater, etc and even calling feminists “femi-nazis!” My sweet daughter raised her hand and says, “my Mom says femi-nazi”. My first thought was, now you’ve failed, but the professor backpedaled. My second thought was how very proud I was of my daughter for speaking up and I told her so. That’s how I feel about Mike. I am very proud of him very time he speaks up in the “cynical, "satiric" style” of his. I love it. Thank you Mike.

I would have been surprised
if they WEREN'T trying to make his life a living hell for speaking the truth.

2 Tim 3:12-15
Indeed all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceivers and deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it...
RSV

It's coming to all of us soon.

Mike's Peak.
I generally get a great deal of enjoyment from your columns but what exactly are you trying to tell us with your last two ? I have found them quite bewildering and really disappointing.

Mike (Dr. Adams), thank you for your
candor and opening up your heart. You are doing God's work and he is in your corner. I would enjoy meeting you almost as much as meeting Ann Coulter, she is prettier after all.

Keep up the good works, shine the light on the hypocrits and you will find happiness that few ever find.

Should be here today
Mike writes:

"When I got off the plane in Colorado Springs I was taken aback by the beauty of my surroundings."

I have this feeling every morning I wake.

Not a day starts I do not give God thanks, it comes first.

Holding on to your faith is the answer you and all of us need in this day and time.

Its the only light left in this darkened world.

Like the wise men of old, follow the Day Star and it leads to Jesus Christ.

Song for you Mike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgD8UgM1kec&feature=PlayList &p=68F695181B6D7BA6&index=0


I Understand
I don't understand the criticisms of your last few columns. I totally understand them and they have encouraged me in my current battles. Keep writing what's on your mind and heart....keep fighting the battle. You don't fight it alone, brother.

God Bless you
God bless you, Mike. This column brought tears to my eyes. I have been following your writings for some time and have been shocked and incensed by the blatant hatred of Christians on the college campuses. God has given you this opportunity to witness to young people by standing up for Him. As for your trip, isn't it marvelous how God will refresh our spirits by sending us Christian brothers and sisters when we need them most? Keep fighting the good fight. There are many of us out here praying for you. "The joy of the Lord is your strength." Neh. 8:10.

Thank you, Mike
"All worrying (faithlessness) is offensive to God."

I must admit that I have been worrying about things in my life lately and have not been as faithful in trusting God to work things out for me as I should have. Your affirmation that worrying is analogous to faithlessness and that it is offensive to God jolted me. I truly believe that your article came along at just the right time. God bless you, Mike.

Susan
Your post says it for me too.May God Bless

Really great testimony
Thanks so much for sharing and reminding us all about how God is offended by worrying. God bless you. And I encourage you to hang in there.

Get Well
Mike, we have our differences on the issue of gay rights. Two years ago I had my bout of major depression, near suicide and hospitalization. I can only wish you get well and get on with your life.

He is faithful.

Welcome back, brother Mike. Oorah.

Seems that the Good Lord had indeed renewed you in both body and spirit... and has re-powered you to fight the good fight. Watch out UNC.

My wife and I also support the Alliance Defense Fund - that magnificent group of Christian and conservative lawyers who drive the ACLU absolutely crazy every day. Now I ask you, how sweet is that?

Mike, you are also a true inspiration to more of us than you may realize. And your story reminds us - when we are weak... He is strong.

If we just let Him.



For Will, who hates God talk.
Satan is controlling your life. Happy?

I am super
impressed by your decision to remain where you can continue to fight the good fight. I did that (on a much smaller scale)in my Catholic church where my pro life articles were pulled down and replaced with planned parenthood articles by parishioners. *sigh* My pro life articles and announcements seldom made it into the bulletin, etc. Every time I got shot down it seemed to somehow renew my energy to get up and fight again! It all worked out in the end. The woman who was causing much of the problem was let go for very embarrassing circumstances and then our family felt free to move on to a REAL Catholic Church! Your job is not finished until it's finished. God will continue to renew your spirit and your drive that HE may complete what He has begun.

Brother Michael
Good Doctor - You're cryptic about the reason you wrote the check, and you may have written it for any number of wholly personal reasons, none being any of my business. But, my dear doctor, please, please assure me that you DID NOT write a personal check to settle some suit or claim related to your struggle against university tyranny.
Frankly, I would not be surprised if you did - doing so would be consistent with your character, and I don’t presume to speak for others on this forum, for it is not my place. But, from my perspective, if you did use your personal funds to settle such a claim, you stole from those of us who support you – we who read your columns and cheer you on from the bleachers - the opportunity to participate in this struggle.
To quote the words of our dear Brother: “Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.”

will
You're a sad excuse for a human being. You really are. You just can't leave someone to be happy and fulfilled in their faith. Instead, you have to spit on their spirituality and their joy to make yourself feel better about your pathetic existence. You're a truly disgusting, worthless toad.

Dr. Adams can be sharp and satirical (two concepts that obviously elude your puny little intellect), but it is when he's writing about his faith and the joy it brings him that he is most sincere and real. I say that as a pagan. That's right, will, a PAGAN, to whom Dr. Adams has been nothing but kind and genial. I, for one, am thrilled that his faith brings him that much joy and fulfillment. Too bad you're filled with so much vile venom that you can't even have enough respect for another human being to leave him that joy without trying to defile it.

I'm sure you represent little more than a speck of lint on his lapel, but I find you loathsome on his behalf.

Huh?
Why is Townhall still carrying this nutjob?

You want to talk about dementia
How demented do you have to be to go out and spew filth about someone simply because they believe in God? To turds like will, belief in God is tantimount to detonating a bomb at a playground. Nay, scratch that, if asked, will would say he'd rather see 100 billion children blown up at a playground than hear the word "Amen".

Now THAT is demented!

Mary
Obviously because most of their readers don't find him crazy at all.

Mary
More importantly, if you truly believe that, why are you still reading his columns or this site, for that matter? It's a free country. Feel free to go away.

Mary
If you are asking why townhall still carries Doc Adams....hopefully it is just to aggravate fools like you.

Hey
I'm only sticking around for Stossel now.

audience seems mixed!
Mike, if you read these comments, I hope you don't take too much offense from those who don't like the recent change in your style. Give them time.

I don't know the details of what brought you to write these last two columns, but I really enjoyed them both. I don't know what caused you to consider using your gun to end your life, and I am sure it was a fleeting thought that you could not have followed through on. Once one enters that door, there is no turning back.

I have mixed emotions about your returning to UNCW, especially after your most enjoyable week at Summit, but I know you will finally find your way to Summit or someplace like it in the future.

Best wishes for whatever you do, and may God continue to bless you.

Dear Mike
My favorite book is Hebrews. My favorite passage: Heb:11, v. 1. "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." The simple profundity of that statement by Paul, is as deep as eternity itself. I can only hope and pray for you that you'll put all your trust in Gods hands. His love for us is beyond our comprehension. God love you Mike; know that you have the prayers of those who love you also.

Mean Mary

Mary, apparently clueless, asks, "Huh? Why is Townhall still carrying this nutjob?"

May I suggest that if you don't like Dr. Adams' columns you just skip over them and read those you enjoy? Why do you find it necessary to insult the man? You're putting yourself in the same category as Little Willy the scumbag.

Mean Mary

Mean Mary declares, "Hey I'm only sticking around for Stossel now."

That's the ticket! You GO, girl!!

Swampfox
I know the pain of chronic depression, an unwelcome visitor after a serious head injury I received in 1990. Only those who have battled depression can truly know the intensity of the pain.
After my injury, I studied Psychology in college to help me understand the nature of the beast of depression.
Are you familiar with cognitive behavioral therapy? It has the best documented efficacy for treatment of major depressive disorder. To explain it in a simple manner, CBT trains you to eliminate thinking patterns (cognitive distortions) that cause depression. It works for me.

AuHunter

Fret not. I suspect we'll find out in good time.

Swampfox

My heart goes out to you, my friend.

My mother and sister were both bipolar and suffered long bouts of massive depression, especially during their younger years.

Even with modern treatment and drugs, they fought depression to their graves, my mother at 83 and my sister at 60. I can only imagine the hell they went through all those years. There was absolutely nothing I could do except be there in support.

That is one of the reasons I think Little Willy the Scumbag is such a dispicable turd, mocking and celebrating the misfortunes of others. I used to be ambivalent toward gays, with a live-and-let-live attitude. But Little Willy is teaching me to loath them.

Incredulous
Hebrews is anonymous. It is definitely not by Paul, being ruled out by clear theological differences:

The description of Jesus as high priest

The introduction of Melchizadek

The focus on the exaltation of Jesus rather than his resurrection

The perspective on faith

----

Origen said that it was anonymous. The author was a Hellinstic Jewish Christian who wrote in a refined Greek style and had some awareness of Greek philosophical thought. It probably dates in the 60s but before the destruction of the temple.

I have a job interview . . .
this afternoon for a communications position at my local church. All morning long I have been trying to figure out what to wear. For hours, a voice inside my head has been telling me to wear my corduroy blazer, coupled with a white shirt and my dark indigo jeans that my wife loves. Every time I insist I need to wear a tie and shouldn't wear the jeans, the voice tells me, "no, the jeans and corduroy blazer are what you should wear."

As you might expect, I gave up the fight after reading the following passage from Dr. Adams' column this morning regarding his lost luggage:

"I would later realize that God was sending me a message. I’d be lecturing in jeans and a polo shirt dressed like everyone else. God isn’t impressed by Joseph A. Bank. And He’s offended by insomnia. Insomnia is another form of worrying. All worrying (faithlessness) is offensive to God."

All I can say is that you non-believers simply don't know what you're missing.


to Swampfox
My apologies, Sir. I was going to read all the comments, but by mistake hit the Flag button on your comment. I DID NOT wish to flag your comment.

folks, give will a break
He is extremely young, and like most youth, arrogant and clueless as to why anyone might need or want God in their life. He's still ruled by the urgings in his groin and the simplistic answers that come from a liberal college education, pumping in the mush of cloistered aging hippies who themselves never left the groggy womb of academia. He has little significant experience of adult life, and so does not even begin to comprehend its subtleties and complexites.

That is also God's plan - He gives the young room to stumble about, mocking and doubting, in full enjoyment of their sexual energy and hubristic idealism. Only later does He reveal the full panoply of life - the death of loved ones, the disappointments, losses and struggles than in overcoming brings one wisdom, painfully acquired.

It is easy to mock what you don't understand, and easier still to believe one unique in all the world and above it all. That will wear away, but in the meantime, there are no lessons to be taken from encounters with his vacuous cockiness, except that he is in fact so very, very young.


To Will from CA
Get over yourself.

Thank you, Mike!!!
As with nearly everyone posting here today, Mike, I am very much blessed by these last two columns. How very saddened I, and throngs of other folks, would have been to read in the paper one day that you had ended your life. Praise God you did not.

I don't know what sort of journey He has you on, brother, but I pray the best for you. I am having major problems where I work, with one individual in particular. And my worrying over it has been a problem for me. But your mention that worry is offensive to God is about the third or fourth time I've heard that recently, so it must be God talking to me. Thanks.

There are good things ahead for you, Mike, my brother in Christ. So hang in there, and I will too!!!

I would suggest
that Will do something anatomically impossible but A: he'd probably like it. and B: he's likely tried it many times.


-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

I hope our support is not misplaced!
When people become very coy and seem to be shrouding something that they don't want to reveal--it is then that I begin to feel wary.

The fact that you, Mike, have spent 2 columns in this way raises a red flag for me. I hope you know what you are doing. Please, since YOU chose to bring this whole thing up, would you explain yourself?



folks
Please forgive those that post negative comments,they are looking for adults to pay attention to them

For Will
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance, and that principle is 'contempt prior to investigation'. - Herbert Spencer

BTW-Spencer was an agnostic.

Tell me...

What do you have to lose by praying to God?

What do you have to gain by not praying to God?

To Bob_C
"That is one of the reasons I think Little Willy the Scumbag is such a dispicable turd, mocking and celebrating the misfortunes of others. I used to be ambivalent toward gays, with a live-and-let-live attitude. But Little Willy is teaching me to loath them." Bob_C

I am gay. My depression periods began in early middle school when I realized that I was gay. I thought that it was only a test of my will power and that I would someday be "normal". That day never came, even after more than 30 years. In that period I only talked about my homosexuality to my parents (briefly)and two psychiatrists.



A Sensitivity to the Human Condition
I'm grateful to Mike for his last 2 columns. They make him much more human than a very bright person with a biting wit. And they make him much more Christ like.

There's a sensitivity to the human condition that can come from personal suffering. It doesn't have to. Jack Hayford used to say that the same sun that melts ice hardens concrete. But when God is allowed to work his nature in us through suffering it becomes something beautiful.

I'm reminded of a day many years ago. I'd gone to MacArthur Park in L.A. to play chess. About 10:00 A.M. I started playing with a young man from Argentina. We were fairly even in ability. He'd win a game. Then I'd win a game. And we talked; world views, philosophy of life, the human condition. When it got dark, we moved to the L.A. chess club building and played until the club closed at midnight. I never saw him again. But the last thing he said was 'You've suffered a lot. I have too.'

He wasn't a Christian. I was. The rapport we had that day came through a mutual familiarity with suffering.

"This High Priest of ours understands our weakness, for he faced all of the same testings we do, yet he did not sin. So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. There we will receive his mercy, and will find grace to help us when we need it most." Hebrews 4:15-16

Swampfox
Would you mind revealing, under the anonymity of this posting venue, whether or not you were abused as a child?

Thanks.

To Desert Rat
No, I was not victim of any abuse. I grew up in what you might call a very privileged, sheltered life. I came from a home with a great father and mother.........and, four other siblings. My father was a prominent physician. When he died at the age of 64 from cancer, the turn-out at his funeral and donations/memorials in his name was incredible.

Rich D.
Your comments about Hebrews is simply weird

Is There More to the Story?
I got the sense that there is more to this story that I don't know; maybe the writer is better-known to others here than he is to me. But as he described the tension he has been under, I thought of a ridiculous analogy that I have thought of many times before: it is as if going through life is going through a long long tunnel, and from time to time the tunnel changes its shape and becomes very flat and low and narrow or into some odd shape. When that happens, if we want to keep moving in a forward direction we have to figure out how to change OUR shape---make ourselves flat like a pancake, or whatever (I warned you that my image here is ridiculous). In other words, we have to figure out a new way to adjust to changing circumstances in our world, once it dawns on us that this is the only way to go.

Often this "shape-changing" means coming to a decision that may surprise us: we had not realized before that we really wanted to change our job, even or field of work. Or leave the city and move to the country. Or go back to school. Or adopt a child. Or get a divorce. Or convert to another religion. In my experience, the decision for change is preceded by a time of anxiety and insomnia, and then knocks on my door as a surprise.

As I read this article I thought that maybe the author was going to give up his job, where he seems to be having some trouble, and take a job at a Christian college, which he might find more congenial. And I am distressed by the posts suggesting that Dr Adams is nuts. To struggle is to be awake and know what's going on: to be human. Who has ever seen a slug going through a moral crisis?

To Dr Adams
It's not a bad idea to go get a physical exam when life seems to be swirling around you and making you lose your balance. Most of the time the swirl is about circumstances, as I addressed in my other post, but once in a while there's something physical going on that can be easily addressed with meds or a procedure. A smart internist may notice a and b and c and put them together in a way that wouldn't occur to the rest of us. And it's very, very usual for people to assume "circumstances" and not realize "something physical". Do check in with your doc. Best of luck; hang in there. And, I hope I do not offend here, please don't make God do ALL the work single-handed: he sometimes works through doctors. If pills are needed, who else but God could have inspired the guy that developed the pills?

Swampfox
Is Little Willy the Scumbag an exception? As I said yesterday, I've only known two gays in my entire life (that I know of) and one of them works for me. He doesn't wear his gayness on his sleeve, nor is he vicious like Will. He just lives his life like anyone else and does his job superbly. We meet socially from time to time, after work for drinks with other employees, company functions and this year at his place for a Christmas party.

My experience with gays who I don't know personally amount to those who participate in the Boston Gay Pride parade (and who flaunt all sorts of perverse activities in public), and a-holes such as Will, Perez Hilton and Rosie O'Donnell - some of the meanest and nastiest people on earth.

Am I missing something?

will
Don't you think it is about time to actually investigate why so many people are Christian? You might discover a new life yourself that doesn't intail running down the life of other people to make you seem better yourself.

To Lilly
Adams has revealed more of himself in his last two columns about himself than he ever has before. And, those that consider him nuts should do some deep reflection on their own lives.

To Bob_C
"Is Little Willy the Scumbag an exception? As I said yesterday, I've only known two gays in my entire life (that I know of) and one of them works for me." I am afraid that I don't know many more gays than you. As my psychiatrist and psychologist say, that's part of my problem. I am not the San Francisco gay pride parade type gay male.

Lilly
With all due respect, your thoughtful posts are a pleasure to see. Best regards.

talent scout
"Your comments about Hebrews is [sic] simply weird"

In what way? Incredulous attributed authorship of Hebrews to Paul, and I gave contrary evidence. I avoided citing wiki, but even that article agrees:

"In general, the evidence against Pauline authorship is considered too solid for scholarly dispute...As a result, few supporters of Pauline authorship remain."

Didn't mean to say.
I did not mean to say that my problem is that I not the San Francisco type gay pride parade type. But that I have just socially isolated myself over the years. And, that I don't think that Gay Pride Parades such as in San Francisco do the gay rights movement any good.

Awesome story Mike
Mike,

Once again, your stories make it easier for us Christians to know "we are not alone".

Well done article.

Steven

Thanks
Thanks Dr. Mike. LSBeene of Alaska... ditto.

Mike, some confusion
These two articles were heart wrenching because although I knew you were involved in a lawsuit, you always seem so upbeat that I was shocked and saddened to realize you were having such a very hard time.

I was also confused by the nature of your despair. You alluded to the fact there was more going on than just the lawsuit. Perhaps you decided the details were none of our business, but you were so candid regarding your feelings. I would have thought you would have wanted your readers to see a clear picture of what was going on in your life.

I am a regular reader, so I don’t think I missed anything in previous articles of yours.

I’m very happy you are more on top of things now, but I really wish you would have given us a better understanding of what this was all about. The check, the temptation to erase your problems with a .45, your uncertain future etc.

Please ignore the nut-jobs. They will always be around. Those of us who love you think you are great and always will. You fight the battles that the rest of us only dream about.

Frame it anyway you like Rich D
""In general, the evidence against Pauline authorship is considered too solid for scholarly dispute...As a result, few supporters of Pauline authorship remain."


I refuse to be budged by such statements.
Hebrews is without a doubt from the mind of the Apostle Paul

Thank you for sharing!
God bless you Mr. Adams. God is great and his love and understanding will always be there for you/us - which you speak of in a most generous and sharing way. We ALL benefit from the sharing of trials and tribulations. Will is more to be pitied than sensured - pray for Will!

Justin Martyr

Justin Martyr believed the Apostle Paul to be the author of the book of Hebrews


"Justin was a student of Polycarp, who was a student of The apostle John.

That puts him in the second generation from the apostles, so his word as to who authored Hebrews should carry great weight since he was in a good position to know."


Only Paul had the teaching to have written Hebrews.
He considered himself an Apostle to the Gentiles and Jesus Christ the Apostle and High Priest of our faith.


Acts 22

:3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.


Heb 3:1 -
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

Swamofox

Thank you. I wish you the best. Hang in there.

Keep fighting
Win one for the students (kids, children, young adults, whatever you call them.) They are doing great, but could use your help.

Transparency
As for the gentlemen who seemed to be appalled at your two columns talking of your struggles, please do not take his attitude to hard. I applaud your willing to let others know that yours is not a wrinkle free life. Too often believers are afraid to be honest and this is dangereous, for two reasons. One Satan can get a grip on us when we do not expose our struggles to the light of day, spiritual day. And two, others who have struggles measure themself as wanting because they do struggle with some things. Probably the man who wondered if he should be supporting you because, he suspected maybed you didn't know what you were doing follows into the catagory of hidden struggles having a hold on him and making him criticle of others who are not hidding that they have them. God Bless You.

Law suit
You refer to it, but do not elaborate. Is that an okay thing to do? Perhaps you have alluded to it in previous articles. If so, I missed them. I am a long Methodist, although I don't agree with all that the UMC does, but no organization does just what I want it to.
I hope you will stay at UNC. It needs some non-liberal leavening. I am not all that religious even though I attend church services each Sunday and have for many years. God seems to use human agents for most of the things attributed to God in our society. "The Lord helps those who help themselves" and I don't refer to getting one's snout into the government trough. There uses to be an accompanying phrase, "And the Federal government helps the rest." But it has failed to help the rest-in fact, it has facilitated more dependency and more fatherless children to their detriment and to the detriment of our society.
Donald W. Bales

Depression
It is common and it is eminently treatable. It is not a sign of mental or character weakness. It is a disorder-most now think that it is related to abnormal brain chemistry. Bipolar disease is very heritable, and should be treated as a chemical disorder.
Don't give up. Consult a physician.
A tragedy is not just a bad happening-it a a bad happening that could have been prevented.
Donald W. Bales, M.D. retired internist

Mike
If you feel lead to continue fighting UNC, our kids certainly need you on their side.

But take care of yourself. Ask God where he wants you right now.

Prayers for guidence, strength and peace of mind.

Law Suit by Mr. Bales of UMC
Dear Mr. Bales,
I enjoyed your post but take exception with one statement that you put in quotations. You wrote, "God helps those who help themselves."

Mike Adams knows that statement to be a false one. It is a commonly used phrase but has nothing to do with the God Mike is worshiping in Colorado.

Consider this, "God only helps those who are utterly helpless." This is more in keeping with Mike's insights. You see, if we are helping ourselves then we are in control. If we admit our inability to help ourselves, we are ready to live that most abundant of lives--the God directed life--the life of service, giving, forgiving, and purpose.

Rick Warren's book, "The Purpose Driven Life", tries to get at the point, but it falls short also. The real point is that Jesus did ALL the work necessary to save us and give us a fulfilling life to live as his children in obedience to his commands. We can do nothing to deserve salvation. We can do nothing to merit the favor of God (even our righteous works are as filthy rags in the sight of a Holy God). We cannot be good enough to save ourselves. WE CAN TRUST IN JESUS AS OUR SAVIOR AND REDEEMER ONCE WE HAVE BEEN CONVINCED (CONVICTED) OF OUR FALLEN, SINFUL STATE. THEN GOD HELPS US BY SAVING US.

So, God helps the utterly helpless NOT those who think that they can help themselves.

The phrase you mentioned occurs nowhere in the Bible. It is one coined by man and which elevates man. From such comes humanism.

Humbly yours,
BB63

so many posts, so little time...
HAve to comment to Will, I'm confused. You do, or do not think Adams is a nutjob? First you say he is unstable. Then you turn right around and post that you really like this new, unstable Adams and find the writing clean, and spare. Evocative even!

Wow. So--are you suggesting unstable people are also lucid?

Context is everything
bb63 writes:- 3:50 PM EST
Law Suit by Mr. Bales of UMC
Dear Mr. Bales,
I enjoyed your post but take exception with one statement that you put in quotations. You wrote, "God helps those who help themselves."

Mike Adams knows that statement to be a false one
=======================

God helps those who are willing to work for their bread by helping themselves first.

God does not need any help in the provisions He has made for all men through Jesus Christ.

Salvation, Grace, Healing and such.

So the phrase God helps those who help themselves is correct in applying that statement to earning ones own living.

talent scout
Several of what are considered Paul's letters have an authorship certainty of only about 50/50 (Collosians, Ephesians, 2 Thessalonians, 1, 2 Timothy, and Titus), and the evidence for Pauline authorship of Hebrews is much thinner. I've just complete an extensive study of all 13 plus Hebrews.

"The purity of its Greek was noted by Clement of Alexandria, according to Eusebius (Historia Eccl., VI, xiv), and Origen of Alexandria asserted that every competent judge must recognize a great difference between this epistle and Paul's (Eusebius, VI, xxv)." (Wiki)

Seven letters are generally classified as “undisputed”, expressing contemporary scholarly near consensus that they are the work of Paul: Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon. Six additional letters bearing Paul's name do not currently enjoy the same academic consensus: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Timothy, and Titus. The first three, called the "Deutero-Pauline Epistles," have no consensus on whether or not they are authentic letters of Paul. The latter three, the "Pastoral Epistles", are widely regarded as pseudographs, though certain scholars do consider them genuine. (Wiki)


Rich D.
Its a matter of faith.
I have all the evidence I need to be convinced Paul wrote Hebrews.

I accept you think otherwise.

No argument any living man can make will cause me to change my opinion.

I am sure you feel the same way

God's Help
Talent Scout,

Your point is well-taken and well-made. However, the context at I read it seemed to be that God has a special place for the industrious. In fact, God wants us all to be stewards of our talents and ambitions. But, in regards to whom GOD HELPS, it the one with contrition not the one with self serving ambition.

Many, however, in Tevia-like ways, attribute such quotations to the Bible or in Tevia's case the Torah. I wanted to use that fact to hold forth the need for repentance in a world full of arrogance.

Respectfully,

bb63

PS can you guess why the moniker bb63? (nothing to do with our current conversation)

Evidence is strong
Paul wrote Hebrews


quote:
It cannot be reasonably doubted that the Eastern church held to Pauline authorship from its earliest days. According to Eusebius (c. 263-340), Clement of Alexandria (c. 150-215) taught that “Paul wrote the Hebrews in the Hebrew language and that Luke carefully translated it into Greek.” He also stated that this was the belief of the “blessed elder Pantaenus” (died c. 200).[13] In the Western church, Tertullian (c. 155-220) is the first clear testimony regarding the authorship of this epistle, and, although his words are somewhat difficult to cipher, as Laird Harris avers, “it would seem possible to hold that Tertullian did actually accept Hebrews and accepted it because it derived from the apostles, specifically Paul.”[14] Then there is the historian Eusebius, who spoke of the “fourteen epistles” of the apostle Paul.[15] It is also the case that Jerome (c. 347-420) in Jerusalem considered Hebrews to be of Pauline origin, as did Augustine (354-430) in North Africa.[16] It is also worthy of note that in several of the early Greek manuscripts this epistle is located, not after Philemon as in our Bibles, but grouped among the other Pauline epistles, thereby revealing that those who arranged the manuscripts considered Hebrews to be of Pauline origin.[17] Also, the fact of the matter is that Hebrews was received into the canon of Scripture by the early church due (principally) to the belief that it was an inspired epistle of the apostle Paul. As confirmed by Geisler and Nix:

http://www.fpcr.org/blue_banner_articles/Who-Wrote-Hebrews. htm

talent scout
"No argument any living man can make will cause me to change my opinion. I am sure you feel the same way."

I don't, really - no feelings on the subject at all. I am open to any evidence - never faith or feelings. Does your Bible give an author attribition. What do you use?

Finally, the book was accepted into the canon by its contents, not authorship, and that stands.



I understand your point
bb63

I agree with the point you make about the Lord helps us who are helpless, its true.

But even to get the help I needed and need from the Lord, I still had to do a work of faith to receive His help.

I had to repent to receive forgiveness that is freely given for example.

Takes a work of faith to receive the promise of God.

I pray every day because I see my need for His help.

So it can be said.. I get His help by first helping myself obeying His Commandments.

But your point is true in our helplessness.

bb63 brings nothing to mind especially.

Big Brother?
Base Ball?
Bed and Breakfast?
Guess my guess will be Big Brother

Rich D.
I gave the evidence probably about the same time of your last post.

My faith that Paul wrote the Book of Hebrews is based from lots of study.

From the bible and history.
That's why I said its a settled issue for me and no further arguments will change this opinion.

Knowing what it took for me to get to believing Paul wrote it.


talent scout
BB63 was the Navy Designation for the USS Missouri.

Wow
SFA1973

I did not know that

I am an Army Vet, so excuse my ignorance

If indeed Paul wrote
The Book of Hebrews in the Hebrew language to the Jews, its only makes sense it would not have the salutation and introduction his other Epistles contain written to the Gentile Church's.

If Paul had written to the Jews in the Book of Hebrews as he did in say this book, the Jews would not even have read it.

Romans 1:

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:

With this sort of introduction, no Jew would have read the book of Hebrews

Will
Generally I find your comments the most intolerant of all. Bottom line, if you are right no one will ever know because at the moment this life ends there is nothing more. If those who believe in one God are right you will suffer eternally and we as good christians will feel sorry for your immortal soul as we bask in God's glory if he wills it so.

Mike
has opened up some of his life in his columns, but that doesn't mean anyone needs to know any more about his problem(s) to pray fervently or effectually for him.
As for Will, I doubt that calling him names will bring him closer to Jesus. And it is difficult, if not impossible, to pray for him if you hate him. He is in an abominable sin that consumes and destroys spirit, body and soul. It's one thing to be apart from Jesus in this life, it is another to be separated from Him for eternity. This kind comes out not but by prayer and fasting.

Thanks Mike!
Our schools need more like you.

Mike's Peak
Thank you, I really needed that message today.

Have you ever read "Pilgrim's Progress"?
Your story reminds me of the book. There is a time for lying down in green pastures and beside still waters to have your soul restored. Summit Ministries sounds great.

talent scout
Ok, but he is a minority. Let's look inside.

(1) The expression Christ Jesus is used some 90 times by Paul in his letters, but not once in Hebrews.

(2) Familiar Paulione themes so important to him are not picked up - dying with Christ, Christ living in us, justification language, etc.

(3) Paul focuses on judicial, relational, and commercial soteriological categores; Hebrews focuses on cultic categories.

(4) It is unlikely that Paul would have referred to himself as someone who had the salvation spoken by the Lord "confirmed to [him] by those who heard" Jesus when he always insisted that he received his gospel directly through a revelation, and neither received it nor was taught it.

(5) Churches in the West contested his authorship until the early 5th cent. This carries more weight than the verdict from the east (that you quote) especially if the letter was written to Rome, part of the West.

(6) The Greek is too different - even Clement and Origen recognized this.

(7) There are significant theological discontinuities.

(8) The arguments made for not signing the letter do no fit with Paul's personality that come through in his confirmed letters. Crampton does not see this for the weak argument that it is.

(9) NO MAJOR SCHOLAR OF HEBREWS IN THE LAST 70 YEARS, OF ANY THEOLOGICAL PERSUASION, HAS ATTEMPTED TO MAKE A CASE FOR PAULINE AUTHORSHIP.

(10) In 6.4-6, the author goes much farther than Paul ever did in asserting that a fallen-away genuine believer can never be brought back. Using the full witness of the canon, there is only one unpardonable sin mentioned by Jesus. In 1 Cor 5.1-13, Paul tells the cummunity to turn out the incestuous man so that he might be saved and brought back into the community.

Blessings,

Rich

talent scout
"With this sort of introduction, no Jew would have read the book of Hebrews"

But he was writing to Christians, not Jews, who had converted from Judaism.

Paul was even worse in his letters condemning the Law as weak and ineffectual. He argued against food and calendar observances, and said that neither the curcumcision nor the prepuce (Gk. akrobustia - Strong's 203) was worth anything! Your Bible tones it down to "uncircumcision" - go for the Greek.

Dear Mike Adams...



Mike Adams

I am an old fart, and I broke into tears at hearing of your travails.

However, you are an inspiration to thousands of your fans.

We are encouraged by your writings and fights against the establishment.

Please God, do not give up.



Dear Dr. Adams,
When I say "Dear", I mean it. It means so much to me to see your columns, and know that a person of your intelligence is fighting the good fight.

Keep it up, and we'll keep clapping our hands and smiling. But when things get too hard, take a break. Seriously, I mean it. It's not the American way, but it just doesn't make sense to work yourself into a frenzy.

I'm looking forward to your next column. Thanks, Mike.

Mike Adams...

Mike Adams

I am an old fart, and I broke into tears at hearing of your travails.

However, you are an inspiration to thousands of your fans.

We are encouraged by your writings and fights against the establishment.

Please God, do not give up.

For God's sake do not give up!


Wrong my friend
Rich D. writes:- 9:08 PM EST
talent scout
"With this sort of introduction, no Jew would have read the book of Hebrews"

But he was writing to Christians, not Jews, who had converted from Judaism.

=======================

How about the Jews who were HEBREWS?
Jerusalem was filled with them and Paul is on record preaching to the Jews as well as the Gentiles

Pual most certainly did not condemn the
Law.


Rich D writes:
Paul was even worse in his letters condemning the Law as weak and ineffectual. He argued against food and calendar observances, and said that neither the curcumcision nor the prepuce (Gk. akrobustia - Strong's 203) was worth anything! Your Bible tones it down to "uncircumcision" - go for the Greek.
=======================

You are not understanding what Paul was teaching about the Law.
These scriptures show you he was not, nor had any intention of condemning the Law, except as the path to righteousness.
That comes only by Faith, not Law.

Romans 7:7-13
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Strong Tower & Mike's Peak
I love and appreciate this spiritual side of you, Mike. I'm reading between the lines to figure out details, but then I realize the details are not the point, at all. I have enjoyed these two columns more than many you've written. They're from the heart, and you're passionate about them. I always appreicate what you have to say, but these two are icing on the cake. I'm glad we're on the same team.

Understanding Paul
Ro 3:31 -
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

How is that done we ask.

Seems to be a contradiction on the face of that scripture and this one.

Ro 3:20 -
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

There is no contradiction and it takes understanding what Paul was teaching us.

Men did not know sin until there was a law.

Ro 7:7 -
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Showing the Law was holy by its conviction against lust, covetousness.

The Law was not bad, my lust was bad and the Law showed me I was a sinner.

How do I as a man overcome the desires of my flesh when the very body I am given by God has been condemned for its lustful nature.

Ro 7:8 -
But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

There is no sin if there is no law.

But the Law was given to teach us we are sinners and need the Righteousness of God to overcome sin.

How do I get the Righteousness of God?

Ro 3:21 - Show Context
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

2Co 5:21 -
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Law and Righteousness
Ga 2:21 -
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Ga 3:6 -
Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

Ga 3:21 -
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

The Law itself is holy and Righteous
But no man can be made righteous by a law.
He can only obtain the Righteousness of God by faith in Gods Righteousness.
Which he has placed in Jesus Christ.


2Co 5:21 -
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

The Law served it purpose.

Ga 3:24 -
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Ga 3:21 -
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

Rich D when you wrote this:
"Paul was even worse in his letters condemning the Law as weak and ineffectual"

To make men righteous this is true.
But the Law itself has never changed and is still in effect for all men who do not submit to the Righteousness of God found in Jesus Christ only.


Swampfox...

Swampfox
Location: SC
Reply # 53
Date: May 28, 2009 - 12:38 PM EST To Bob_C
"That is one of the reasons I think Little Willy the Scumbag is such a dispicable turd, mocking and celebrating the misfortunes of others. I used to be ambivalent toward gays, with a live-and-let-live attitude. But Little Willy is teaching me to loath them." Bob_C

I am gay. My depression periods began in early middle school when I realized that I was gay. I thought that it was only a test of my will power and that I would someday be "normal". That day never came, even after more than 30 years. In that period I only talked about my homosexuality to my parents (briefly)and two psychiatrists.

~~~

There are those amongst us who feel for you.

I am not one of those who espouse your lifestyle,

But I do require you to get over your depression.

Seek out the One God, and he will help you.

Yes, HE will help you.

Homosexuality is NOT that bad.

Rapists, torturors, killers, murders, abusers, are all far worse.

Please do not demean yourself, in the vision of others.

They do not count.

What you are, defines yourself.

If you feel badly about yourself, then change yourself.

Again, Seek out the One God, and he will help you.

Peace, Brother.

Kindness Is The Key
You all have noticed that more posts have been flagged. You have me to blame. First of all, conversation can do without flaming comments, regardless another "gets your goat". All the hot and unkind comments do nothing to convince the unsaved that you have the "have the words of Life".

Rich D and talent scout: Your bickering over whether Paul did indeed write the letter to the Hebrew is not good! Let me admonish you to read Titus 3:9-11

For will, who may still reading, I can't and won't criticize you. I once was where you are! As one reader said, is one of the sins that God considers an abomination. That does not, however, give me right nor reason to hate you. I'm sure that if you indeed are honest with yourself ... there's nothing gay about about Gay! I hope you'll take tit in the right spirit when I day "I love you with God's love".

As a fellow Christian, sometimes one needs to be hold ourselves accountable before others. The Lord will make all the stronger for it! After reading your column this week, you now have a new reader!

Donald
Uh, we can't see which posts are flagged.

"Rich D and talent scout: Your bickering over whether Paul did indeed write the letter to the Hebrew is not good! Let me admonish you to read Titus 3:9-11"

Paul didn't write that, either! Seriously, we are not bickering, but having a reasoned debate that should be edifying to most Christians. You can choose not to read those posts. I looks to me like you are playing traffic cop.

Titus is pseudenonymous, written by a disciple of Paul or amanuensis who lifted snippets of Paul. He restricted women to the home, but Paul worked with many of them. What you quoted was arguments against the proto-Gnostic elements of asceticism, diet, and sexual abstinence because that assembly was getting instruction from mystics who were claiming esoteric knowledge and preying on elderly rich women.

There is a heightened concern for orthodoxy, THE faith, not daily faith, an undeveloped pneumatology, and too much concern for what the world thinks. None of this is vintage Paul. Paul also wanted young widows to remarry, which the authour of Titus didn't.

We are also told to test all things, and that iron sharpens iron.

Is your problem that non-Christians see that there is a dispute over authorship of some books? If that bothers them, the contents won't help. Keep reading - you'll learn something. ;-)

Swampfox


Swampfox
Location: SC
Reply # 62
Date: May 28, 2009 - 1:48 PM EST To Lilly
Adams has revealed more of himself in his last two columns about himself than he ever has before. And, those that consider him nuts should do some deep reflection on their own lives.

~~~
You, kind sir, are a treasure. No, I do not agree with all your beliefs.

But you are honest. I like that.

It has also been apparent to me that you are a very caring person.

Go with God and you cannot go wrong.


talent scout
"Ga 3:6 -
Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."

You are aware that this was before the law and circumcision, correct? It makes my point that the law points out sin, but is weak in the face of it, giving us no means to resist. Paul said in Rom 7:10 that the law that was mean for life resulted in his death.

talent scout
In 2 Cor 3:6-4:6. Paul calls the law a ministry of condemnation and death, carved in letters on cold stone that empowered no one to life, impermanent, and veiled (i.e., partially disclosed).

I had a longer post on the common mistranslation of Rom.9:32 in Bibles since the KJV, but the server connection and my post got lost. I'm too tired tonight to reconstruct it. Sorry.

Peace.

Mike Adams...


Mike,

I have tears in my eyes, about your tribulations.

I just have to say, DON'T give up!

You have thousands of fans out here!

Need money? Tell us!

John Freshwater of Mount Vernon, OH
Look up his story. Perhaps you could be of some comfort to him. He had the courage to keep his Bible out on his desk for the past 20 years. The school board made some false accusations against him and has embroiled him in and expensive court battle for over a year without any pay.

Thanks
Mike,

Thank you for your ongoing testimony and your willingness to confront a world gone mad. I know that you have been a direct influence on conservatives leaving private business to enter into the public school system to combat rampant liberal fundamentalism.

My prayers are for you and your family to glorify God through your difficutly, and that you are able to keep your eyes on the One who has gone before, the author and perfector of our faith.

Peace.

You know
I’m so choked up that I have tears in my eyes too. But seriously, how could Mike’s Summit experience be the closest thing to heaven on earth he’s ever seen? He didn’t get to kill anything or even shoot a gun once?

LDS fan of Mike Adams here.
I don't know who this Will in CA is or why he's writing stuff in the middle of the night rather than getting sleep like most normal folks do.

But he does have a point in that Adams seems to be losing his edge.

When I say 'edge' I don't mean that our Mike is being less 'edgy' in his writing. I mean to say that his writing is losing coherence.

I do hope, with all his fans, that this rough patch passes and things work out in his favor, whatever that may mean for him.

And I hope he gets his groove back.

Mormon reader
Did a Mormon just accuse Dr. Adams' writing of lacking coherence?

Sir, Mormonism has such a lack of coherence that you simply cannot be taken seriously.

Donald, you are the problem
Donald wrote:

"Rich D and talent scout: Your bickering over whether Paul did indeed write the letter to the Hebrew is not good! Let me admonish you to read Titus 3:9-11"

=======================
We are discussing an interesting subject to us.
You are the only one bickering with this nonsense.

Step back and stay out of decent conversations when you have nothing to add but a rude bickering comment.
Capiche?


Titus 3

3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

3:10
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

3:11
Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

I do not consider Rich D to be a heretick.

Remains to be seen if you are one yourself.

Stay away from all foolish admonitions as the above and mind your own business.
Especially when you do not have any idea of what you are talking about.


Morning Rich

"Ga 3:6 -
Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."


Rich D. 2:25 AM EST
talent scout
You are aware that this was before the law and circumcision, correct? It makes my point that the law points out sin, but is weak in the face of it, giving us no means to resist. Paul said in Rom 7:10 that the law that was mean for life resulted in his death.
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I agree with that Rich.
But as we all know the Law came from God.
God obviously had a purpose for giving the Law.

Understanding where the Law fits with the coming of Jesus Christ is what Paul speaks to.
How there is a balance of Grace and Law, Faith and Justice.

Paul wrote in detail about the Law so we can study it and understand the Will of God where Law has its purpose just as Grace does.

The Law was not made for a righteous person, but for the unrighteous and the world is judged by the law of God.
That Law will never change just like Jesus Himself declared.

Mt 5:17 -
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Mt 5:18 -
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Another Mormon Reader
Well I don't know why that first Mormon fan thinks Dr. Adams lacks coherence. I'm a devout Mormon and in my opinion, Dr. Adams is one of the smartest, clearest thinking guys out there.

I love his wit, his intelligence, his courage and his devotion to God. He's a shining example for all Christians (and yes, Mormons ARE Christians!)and we can all learn a great deal from him.

Keep at it, Dr. Adams! The world needs you and more like you!


Law
Rich D. writes:- 2:32 AM EST
talent scout
In 2 Cor 3:6-4:6. Paul calls the law a ministry of condemnation and death, carved in letters on cold stone that empowered no one to life, impermanent, and veiled (i.e., partially disclosed).

I had a longer post on the common mistranslation of Rom.9:32 in Bibles since the KJV, but the server connection and my post got lost. I'm too tired tonight to reconstruct it. Sorry.

Peace.
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Lets not debate "proper" translations".
I loveth the KJV of the Bible and will keep it as the only one I read and accept.
You are free to decide for yourself just as i am.

The arguments are useless, heard them all and you will not bring any new one I have not heard and reject.

As to that point Paul made about the Law, yes I agree.
But you must understand what point he was making about the Law.
He was no teaching anarchy against the Law of God.

He was not teaching the Law was abolished.

He was making a point about how a man fit in living up to the law by his own righteousness.
He cannot do it.
This is what Paul is explaining in how the Gospel of Jesus Christ IMPUTES the Righteousness of the LAW into the believer.

The subject of the Law of God
Could not be summed up in any single sentence.

This is why the Apostle Paul wrote about this subject in most all of his 14 books of the New Testament.


God + Communists?

I'll let Lenin tell you;
A famous quote of Vladimir Lenin;
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."

School Choice seems to help.


A famous quote of Vladimir Lenin;
"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted."

If a man is chained to a millstone you can cut the chains and set him free.
How do you cut chains that have been forged within a child's mind?

This is only a small part of the damage Communists have done to America's children.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/26/world/main530872. shtml

Take a moment to reflect on everything you know now.
Think how helpless you would be without any knowledge.
You would not be able to even speak or walk!
Can you see how people are what they know?
Each thing you learn becomes a part of you and makes you proportionately more than you were before. Your possibilities in life are expanded by what you do learn and limited by what you fail to learn.
Your schooling is a major factor in finding your place in our society.

The purpose of Democrats fighting School Vouchers is to cheat the children of our working class of the opportunity to learn, thereby depriving your children of an opportunity they otherwise would have to become all they could have been if given an honest education.
The object of softening school curriculum is to provide Democrats with a permanent subculture to politically exploit.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202007/postopinion/opedcolumn ists/math_and_marxism_opedcolumnists_sol_stern.htm

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/info/kbase/horror_storie s.html

Elitists like Obama send their children to private schools to be properly educated.
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=3033474249 14951

Democrats want to redistribute wealth but refuse our children equality of education?
With School Vouchers, America's parents would soon weed out bad teachers and bad schools!
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Education/CDA02-03.cfm

Without equal education there can never be equal opportunity.

talent scout
In reverse order...

"He was not teaching the Law was abolished."

Agree - he was teaching that it was weak and a ministry of death.

"...who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?" (2 Cor 3.6-8)

No problem here, correct?

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"He was making a point about how a man fit in living up to the law by his own righteousness. He cannot do it. This is what Paul is explaining in how the Gospel of Jesus Christ IMPUTES the Righteousness of the LAW into the believer."

No problem, except that I rather think that you mean by his own works, and the righteousness that comes from being perfectly obedient to the Law, which is what only one man succeeded in doing. With Christ in us, we have his righteousness. Is that OK?

talent scout
"Lets not debate "proper" translations."

Perhaps you misunderstood - I said that ALL translations since the KJV (that I'm aware of). have an error in Romans 9:32.

"The arguments are useless, heard them all and you will not bring any new one I have not heard and reject."

The arguments are necessary for the proper understanding of the text; I also think that this will be new to you (and most others).

Paul is explaining why Israel failed to attain salvation in Romans 9.30-10.13.

He starts a few verses earlier with the topic: "Although the descendants of Israel are as numerous as the grains of sand on the seashore, only a few will be saved." (27)

"But Israel, who pursued righteousness based on the law, did not achieve the law." (31)

Why?

"Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law." (KJV 32)

"Because they did not pursue it on the basis of faith, but as if it were based on achievements." (NIV 32)

"Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works." (NAS 32)

All three translations agree and make it seem like Israel was doing something wrong in their pursuit. Note that the "it" above seems to refer to righteousness so the thought is:

Israel pursued righteousness based on the law but did not acheive righteousness because they followed the law according to works and not by faith.

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If you agree so far, I will continue.

R.

Rich
I do not have a problem.

I believe everything Paul had to say about the Law.

This would be my only disagreement and we talked about this a year or two ago.

Rich D writes:

The arguments are necessary for the proper understanding of the text; I also think that this will be new to you (and most others).

Not new
And I already stated my position that will not be changed.

I accept the KJV alone.
You do as you wish

mikeR
Shut up, douchebag.

talent scout
Stange that you can say "not new" to something I have yet to write. I've seen many of your posts over the years and generally agree with them, but you've never seemed so closed-minded. What gives, brother?

I repeat - it has NOTHING specific to do with the KJV vs. any other version.

To Dr. Adams
Keep the columns coming, even the ones that I might disagree.

Rich D
Hearing any angle about "proper" translation no matter from which way it comes is not new.

I have solid and unshakable confidence in the KJV and that is forever settled for me.

All others can decide for themselves, but I have decided this for me.

Not only can I spend hours defending my position (if I cared to from historical records) I have already been blessed by the Creator from reading and study of the KJV.

Whose voice will ever match His?

The book has brought millions to the Lord.
That should be good enough for all, as it most certainly is for me.

My mind is not closed, it is steadfast in the truth I find in the KJV.

Stubborness and Steadfastness may appear to be the same thing, but it isn't.

Your steadfast if you hold to an unchanging truth and stubborn if you hold to a lie.

The truth is, there is no better translation than the KJV.


Israel's Mistake
Romans

(31) Israel de diokon nomon dikaiosunes eis nomon ouk epthasen

Israel But pursuing law righteousness to law not arrive

(32a) dia ti oti ouk ek pisteos

why because not by faith

(32b) all os ex ergon

but though by works.

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KJV: Wherefore? Because [they sought it] not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law.

The difficulty here is that it looks as though Israel was on the right track, but they weren’t pursuing righteousness through the law correctly. Other translations read nearly the same. The text in brackets (italics in the Bibles) is not in the Greek, which says only:

Not from [based on, by] faith but as from [by] works.

The question is, what is the implied subject, and what is the verb? The translations all assume that it is Israel’s pursuit (of righteousness), diokon in verse 31. This is incorrect. When a subject and verb are missing, the obvious choice is “it is”. The correct interpretation would be:

It is not from faith, but as from works.

And the “it” is Israel’s law (Gk. nomos) of righteousness, which is not from faith, but is a law of works. In Gal. 3:12, Paul says again that the law is not from faith. Therefore, Israel is missing salvation by not abandoning the law’s jurisdiction after Christ’s coming and failing to recognize that the era of the laws jurisdiction had come to an end, not by pursuing salvation under the law in the wrong way.

Paul insists that Christ is the end of the law [the old covenant’s tenure and jurisdiction] for [the purpose of obtaining] righteousness. The unsatisfactory completion of the law was tolerated before Christ, because there was no alternative.

The future
Mike,

Keep up your good work.

Remember, the saying, 'It is the darkest just before the dawn'.

We all are in for some critical times in the future under our present political leadership. We need your analysis and guidance to help us get through these troubled times.

Hang in there !

peace
Peace comes when we see through the illusions of the ego. I too was denied promotion to full professor at UNCW. I watched my ego boil and the desire grow to prove wrong those who voted against my promotion. How was I to remain a colleague to those who just voted against ME? In the process I gained insights into the destructiveness of ego and pride. Ego and peace cannot coexist in an individual’s life. In case it may be of help to you, I will pass along some words worth meditating on.

All the best,
Julian

Buddha's Words

This is what should be done
By one who is skilled in goodness,
And who knows the path of peace:
Let them be able and upright,
Straightforward and gentle in speech.
Humble and not conceited,
Contented and easily satisfied.
Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways.
Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful,
Not proud and demanding in nature.
Let them not do the slightest thing
That the wise would later reprove.

Let none deceive another,
Or despise any being in any state.
Let none through anger or ill-will
Wish harm upon another.
Even as a mother protects with her life
Her child, her only child,
So with a boundless heart
Should one cherish all living beings:
Radiating kindness over the entire world
Spreading upwards to the skies,
And downwards to the depths;
Outwards and unbounded,
Freed from hatred and ill-will.
Whether standing or walking, seated or lying down.

Free from drowsiness,
One should sustain this recollection.
This is said to be the sublime abiding.
By not holding to fixed views,
The pure-hearted one, having clarity of vision,
Being freed from all sense desires,
Is not born again into this world.

Reply to Talent Scout if you'e there.
bb63 is the designation for the battleship Missouri on which my father served in WW2 as personal body guard to Adm. Chester A. Nimitz.

My father was a Marine corporal and was at Iwo Jima and was an eye witness to the peace treaty signing in Tokyo harbor in 1945.

My father became a Baptist minister and basketball coach. He died in 1979 in a motorcycle accident at the age of 54.

Sorry I have been detained in some other areas and did not get back to this post until now. My email jpmodpa@juno.com

Dear Mike
I think you made the right decision. A good soldier's place is on the firing line... where he's needed. UNCW is, by your and ALL accounts, a "first line trench" in the Culture Wars. Summit Ministries is obviously an excellent R&R, but it is in the schools, rife with liberal dogma and depravity- and where the hearts and minds of our kids are being targetted- that the battle must be waged and won. God bless you in your endeavors.

Recent articles
You are a good man, Dr. Adams, and I appreciate you. God bless you and keep you. Jesus said, " He who endures unto the end shall be saved." Keep on fighting, sir. Until the end.
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