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Monday, March 16, 2009
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Fairness Doctrine: Coming to a Campus Near You
by Mike Adams
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Editor's note: Dr. Adams is speaking March 19, 6:30 pm at UNC-Charlotte in Fretwell Hall, Room 113.Tickets are $100 for socialists and $100 for Democrats as they're now the same thing.

I am pleased to finally be able to write a column praising a decision by the administrators at my university. Recently, the Women’s Resource Center (WRC) decided to put up an “art” display featuring pictures of naked females with captions below them telling stories about their lives. The problem was that some of the females were minors. Recognizing that posting a picture of a naked 12 year-old girl is not protected by academic freedom, the university administration removed the illegal pictures.

There is something very wrong with a Women’s Resource Center that posts pictures of nude women with fake breasts in our library with captions arguing that they are grotesque and perverted. But there is something even more disturbing about their subsequent decision to post pictures of naked children arguing that they are not in any way grotesque or perverted.

I think the UNC-Wilmington administration has finally realized that the Interim Director of the WRC is simply a complete embarrassment to the university and must be monitored in order to protect the university from potential legal liability. Indeed, this is what happens when leftist extremists start to implement their own religion of moral relativism on our nation’s campuses. Pretty soon, they’re at a loss to find an objective basis for judging anything. And they become so arrogant that the argument “it’s illegal” is irrelevant.

Given that leftist relativist groupthink is producing such poor decisions at my university I believe it is time to consider implementing a version of the Fairness Doctrine. Given my university’s recent experiment with common sense and sanity, I think we would be a great place to start what could be a nationwide trend. Plus, we are a public university which, like the public airwaves, should not be dominated by speech from one side of the political spectrum.

We could begin implementing the Fairness Doctrine at my school by having Dr. Frank Turek speak to the Sociology of Religion class that is being offered next fall. Students in that class are being asked to read texts by Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens. In these books, the authors explain why they hate a God that doesn’t exist. Dr. Turek could give a lecture explaining why he loves a God that does exist.

We could also invite Dr. Miriam Grossman to speak to the Sociology of Gender classes. Currently, we employ feminists who argue that all male/female differences are “socially constructed.” Dr. Grossman could explain, in medical terms, why the feminists’ Ms-guided decision to encourage promiscuity hurts women more than men.

We could also invite Dr. Larry Schweikart to speak in American History classes where students are taught that Ronald Reagan ran up higher deficits than Franklin Roosevelt. Larry could present them with charts they’ve never seen, which introduce them to the complex statistical idea of controlling for inflation.

In Microeconomics, we could have Dr. Richard Vedder explain how FDR’s New Deal policies exacerbated the Great Depression. We could invite the president to attend the lecture. I mean the President of the United States, not the President of UNCW.

In Linguistics, we could have John McWhorter talk about the deleterious effects the ebonics movement is having on black progress.

In our graduate course in Social Justice, I could make a guest appearance to talk about how most people on death row are white despite the fact that most homicides are committed by blacks.

The Campus Fairness Doctrine would cut both ways, of course. In my “Trials of the Century” class I teach about the O.J. Simpson case and the Charles Manson case. I argue that both are guilty. So, naturally, I would allow the feminist in my department who thinks O.J. is innocent (read: sides with O.J. over Nicole) to come make her case. I would also ask the sociologist who once told me that Manson was a “poor guy who got railroaded by the system” to come argue his innocence. Then I’ll remind everyone that insanity can negate mens rea but it can’t negate tenure.

Finally, I’ll have a First Amendment expert give a speech to the Women’s Resource Center. In it, he’ll explain that the Fourth Circuit has ruled that the display of child pornography is not protected by the First Amendment. Someone has to tell the empress that she isn’t wearing clothes.

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Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.
 
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Fairness?
One would think that insanity is a randomly occurring event; striking those of different political persuasions (Conservative and liberal) at the same proportion as they are within the population. Yet, common sense view of the population shows us that it strikes liberals to a far greater degree. Maybe that explains why they are liberals.

The Undead Fairness Doctrine...
The Death of the Fairness Doctrine - and Dick Durbin's Work-Around...

http://www.e3gazette.com/2009/03/death-of-fairness-doctrine -and-dick.html

Our vigilance is all we have.

- MuscleDaddy

Nice Dream
Fairness Doctrine in Academia? Who wants to bet it'll never happen?

I have long said.....
that PC is intolerance.

Women's Resource Center
The WRC staff should be arrested and charged with the production and distribution of child pornography.

Fairness "Doctrine of Speech"
Isn't it interesting that those liberals who are constantly demanding "Freedom of Speech" actually mean "Freedom of Liberal Speech Only".

How often do you see or hear of Conservatives attempting to interrupt a speech by a liberal, no matter how inaccurate the "supporting data" or offensive the speech? How often do you see or hear of Conservatives attempting to tear down liberal symbols of hate, no matter how offensive? How often do you see or hear of Conservatives attempting to disrupt "marches of protest"(?), no matter how outlandish? How often do you see or hear of Conservatives attempting to destroy leftist propaganda material or notices of liberal hate speeches, no matter how offensive or how inaccurate the "facts" presented? How often do you see or hear of Conservatives attempting to tear down symbols/images of vile creatures of hate?

Yet, liberals are always attempting to block or disrupt any speech by Conservatives. Why? Fear of the TRUTH.

Interesting
I find it interesting that the Women's Resource Center at UNCW has a problem with women choosing to have breast implants but no problem with them choosing to abort a baby. I'm guessing that most "feminists" want abortion on demand but if they could, would have a law banning cosmetic surgery? If it is a woman's right to choose, who are they to judge? Not that I agree with abortion or breast implants but which side are they on? This is the problem I have with liberals, they only want freedom that agrees with their agenda. The part about the children is disgusting, this women who is in charge of the WRC needs to be fired. I am very thankful I don't have a child at UNCW.

n
Of course he wasn’t “yielding to the people”. That was sarcasm. I’m saying outright that it was all politics on Obama’s part. We can all accept that easily. It seems however that for some, it is much more difficult to believe Reagan was anything but sincere in everything he said or did. When you looked into those eyes and heard that voice of his delivering a speech in that way of his, how could you ever doubt him?

That too was sarcasm. I find it amazing that people fall under that oratory spell and forget that the man was a successful actor with years of experience. It’s the same old story, when they do it; it’s due to evil motives and is wrong. When we do it, the motives are pure and it’s good. Before BDS the liberals used to yowl about the evils of Reagan. Today, it’s the same shoe, just a different foot.

Mark
I don't read Huffington Post, Daily Koss, or Talking Points Memo. Basically, I found them dishonest, but not as consistently or strongly as Townhall.. I have been critical, but it's been way too long for me to remember where and when.

Left-wing sites suffer from some of the same problems as right-wing sites. The biggest is that they turn into these "echo chambers" where everyone thinks in the same way, continuously amplifying and reinforcing one another. Having these two separate, non-interacting echo chambers is not at all healthy, to say the least.

That said, I will say that on the left there is nothing comparable to the broadly targeted hatred of right. This is not to say that there is no hatred on the left; It exists, but is more focused on politicians and policies. In contrast, the right makes much more extensive and broad use of hatred, targeting minority groups as well as politicians and policies. So on Townhall you seem numerous articles targeting academics, feminists, immigrants, atheists, single moms, socialists, animal rights supporters, civil libertarians, environmentalists, liberals, and so on.

Dr. Douglas
I Accept your premise that you are the scourge of "hatethought" on politcal disscourse....So please direct a simple soul like me where you have attacked those on the left wing "Huffy post" for their left wing "Propaganda" Which posts on the left have you attacked them for their "closed minds"? Please give me the site and post it,please..............

So, Smartest in Room Guy...
What precisely do you HATE so about oil? Which truck that brings you food do you wish to have no longer make a timely delivery? Which bus do you wish bus riders to find suddenly unavailable to them? Which taxi is the one unnecessary for anyone...or even for you? Opps...you own a car? Which convenient gas station then do you want to be on empty as a taste of how it will be when your own tank is the same? How are all the consequences implicit in your oil hatred things that improve lives?
Some people see the glass half full; some see it half empty. YOU SEE THE GLASS RUNNING OVER AND STILL COMPLAIN!

To Retired Geek
Newton was a bit off=center himself .... brilliant, but off-center.

Try To Make Sense, It Helps With Logic
roy offers, "dubya worshipped at the altar of crony capitalism"

What on earth are you going on about? That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Anne at 4:54
Your post sounds more reasonable than most here. I take everything with a grain of salt, especially when it involves academia. For next time, I think you were examining Adams' "anecdotes" not "antidotes" although we could use one of them too.

Roy from IL

Apparently Newton looked into the future and saw you.

"I can calculate the movement of the stars, but not the madness of men."
Sir Isaac Newton


Washington, DC - Number 1

WASHINGTON (AP) — A new report by D.C. health officials says that at least 3 percent of residents in the nation's capital are living with HIV or AIDS and every mode of transmission is on the rise.

The findings in the 2008 epidemiology report by the D.C. HIV/AIDS Administration point to a severe epidemic that's impacting every race and sex across the population and neighborhoods.

Scheduled to be released Monday, the report says that the number of HIV and AIDS cases jumped 22 percent from the nearly 12,500 reported in 2006. Almost 1 in 10 residents between ages 40 and 49 are living with HIV, and black men had the highest infection rate at almost 7 percent.

The report says that the virus is most often transmitted by men having sex with men, followed by heterosexual transmission and injection drug use."

swamp
ok what is the default rate of fannie and freddie loans for how much money and do you really believe that caused the crisis or are you just listening to rush and sean hannity?

To Roy
The current financial credit crisis can be traced directly back to Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac................and, the insane,lose lending rules set by the Democrats in Congress. Rule # 1 is that you don't loan money to people who aren't going to able to pay it back. Rule #2 is you don't let some bank become so big that they can fail.

mac
dubya worshipped at the altar of crony capitalism and look what it got us. they did get theirs though.

n
you are gonna lose this one man. here's the equation nasa uses to calculate escape velocity. U = -GMm/r. note the negative G. gravitational potential energy is a negative number. this is calculated using newton's law but also works in general relativity. they use newton because the math is easier and the differences between newton and general relativity is small.











"Doctor" Douglas versus the truth
"My usual approach is to state rather bluntly that, for example, "this is another dishonest and/or hateful column". I then try to specify where the dishonesty/hatefulness lies and why I perceive it as such."

Um, sorry, but "so and so is a liar because I say so!" is not "specifying where the dishonesty/hatefulness lies". I've YET to read any of your comments that actually articulate any argument any person whose IQ exceeds room temperature would call a "convincing" argument. Your typical screed is:

"I'm a doctor, and this columnist is a liar. I'm not going to tell you why I think he's a liar outside of repeating that I'm an internet doctor who got his degree from the Universal Life College by sending them $5 and 7 bottle caps. They send me this piece of paper that says I'm a Doctor of Bottle Caps, so I are smarter than you, so there!"

Liberals are Ethical Nihilists

What is Ethical Nihilism?

Ethical Nihilism denies moral principles and ethical values.

Human beings are not seen as responsible for what they do, therefore, each individual makes up the difference between good and evil.

Since the nihilist denies possessing free will, the ethical nihilist can neither be praised nor blamed for his good or evil behavior.

A case in point is Homosexuality, the Liberal belief is that the Homosexual has no free will - that they are pre-destined by geneticas and body chemistry, to live a life of deviancy, many times ending in depression and suicide.

In short, facts, logic and reason cannot be trusted to determine the truth of right or wrong.

Ethical Nihilism chooses to ignore that moral principles, are inescapable.

Yet even the most basic ideas about good and evil are present in every society, since time immemorial.

C.S. Lewis remarked, “cultures may disagree about whether a man may have one wife or four, but all of them know about marriage; they may disagree about which actions are most courageous, but none of them rank cowardice as a virtue.”

Ethical Nihilism prefers to deny intrinsic principles and values which are imprinted upon every heart and mind (Romans 2:14-15).

Nice try.
If the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" is revived, I doubt very seriously it will be enforced on college campuses - at least not on campuses that are liberal. Everyone knows that liberals always exempt themselves from their own rules.

Child Pornography
Someone who posts child pornography on the Internet can get years in the nearest prison. I would think anyone who posts such pictures in a lobby of a college should get at least half that time.

Swampfox:
The mayor of Chicago got your (and mine) $8000 stimulus. Or perhaps the mayor of Los Angeles. So far Texas isn't taking any of it.

anne at 4:54
Thank you for your cogent, thought provoking and informative post.

Swampfox
Keep on HOPING and maybe you'll get some stimulus money before Obama CHANGES his mind.

Swampfox
Keep on HOPING

My $8,000 of stimulus money!
Hey, where is my eight thousand dollars of stimulus money?

MikeR
You're right its not hypocritical, its idiocy. Reagan agreed to tax increases with accompanying spending cuts which never happened. How is obama "yielding" to the people via congress? If he wasnt going to allow funding anyway why overturn the executive order? Just to make it look good? At least Reagan didnt believe in tax cuts just to look good. He went along with something expecting others to keep their promise which they didnt. In this case it looks like it was entirely on obama. HE lifted the ban to appease some of his supporters then HE signed the funding to please others.

question to will
will wrote: "In many cases (most?), these miners will perish from asphixiation."

Not trying to bait you or anything of the sort. I'd just like a thoughtful answer to the following question if you please.

Why does it matter that those miners will die?

Serious here. I grew up being taught that the tragedy here is that those miners might not have accepted God as their savior. Thus the tragedy is that now it's too late.

However, if no god exists. Does it really make any difference if they die in that mine or of old age or were stillborn?

Or do you subscribe to the ideal of immortality through progeny? In which case, they may not have had time to pass on their genes and that would be the tragedy.

Just trying to understand here.

n & curtail friar
There’s nothing hypocritical about it. It’s more politics. This way, he lifted the ban like he said he would. Then he gets to back out of it by yielding to the people via Congress. Think of it like Reagan and taxes or shrinking the government. Anytime a liberal throws that into your faces, someone quickly points out that the Dems controlled congress and were raising taxes or making government bigger. Reagan didn’t veto the budgets or fight particularly hard to prevent congress.

As far as political maneuvers, it’s just about the same.

RichD, Curtal, Carlos....
I'm amused in the same way when I watch my 4 year old son tie his shoe to a chair....

I just shake my head and chuckle....

Douglas? Or Dr Douglas?
At 12:59 am this morning, anderson659 challenged Dr Douglas:

Really Dr. Douglas?
Imitation is the sincerist form of flattery.

Besides, not once in your post did you disavow the "Douglas" post, you are miffed he took credit for your thoughts, and expressed them first.

Creepy. That would descrbe your approval of the pictures. Deny it, say you disapprove, and say it publicly.

Go ahead Dr. Douglas.

Its nearly 15 hours later, and although he has responded, replied and argued to numerous posts, he still hasnt declared his disapproval of the kiddie porn.

Carlos
Not just sneaky, but cowardly. They wax intellectual without really saying anything, kinda like the guy that was on Bill Maher's show with Breitbart.

The guy just kept blathering on and on, I mean why say something in 10 words or less when you can say it in 100 words or more!!

Carlos, Max Power, like Curtal Friar,
I am amused, not suprised.

Max Power :-)

Thanks for the validation!

They just talk and talk and talk, in circles. Never putting themselves 'out there' - submitting to an actual position - to be taken to task for. Sneaky.

Justin
If you've never sat in a church how do you know you cant do it? How do you know you will lose interest? The bible in not a novel you can jump around at will.

gia
I understand the reality of it but it doesnt mean its right and it doesnt mean doc adams doesnt have an obligation to make "theory" a reality. We need many more profs like him and we as citizens shouldnt put up with it. And with as alumni shouldnt continue to support collegs and universities that dont allow the free exchange of ideas.

n
I'm not surprised, I find it hilarious.

Just a little old question
Dense as I am I yet have been able to pick up the fact that some posters here don't just not believe in God, but also want others to not do so also. My question is this, if you don't know the end from the beginning, why are you attempting to sway others to some point of view for which you are unable to substantiate as having any meaning or point? What preexisting goal are you working toward? I mean if one is to think your way it must be that which is best for man, and obviously you know this because you can see into the future. This laughably(tear filled laughter) is called intelligent and reasoned.

n
The idea of religion is intersting (lately). It's my interest of the month since someone came to my door trying to convert me. I'll likely lose interest before the end of March or the end of the day, who knows, but it's still a somewhat fresh subject as it is so broad and there are so many different takes on the subject. I'm interested right now because I have no prior knowledge on the subject. However, I do know that it won't last forever and I could never sit in a church or get into reading any particular document word for word. One of the more interesting aspects I've run into are the groups trying to reconcile Old Testament scripture with scientific evidence. I'm having a blast picking out the horrendous science these groups use.

Anyway, the only thing saving the subject is my lack of knowledge on it and the complexity of it. Of course, I'm finding the discussion way too dogmatic (both atheist and theist angles) and few trying to look at it on a more empirical level that I'm probably not going to put much more time into it.

N
Thats gret in theory but not in real life.
There are no more colleges like the ones you describe: its either liberal OR conservate college administrators. and we are outnumber 10 t0 1 . I suppose there are some specialty schools (culinary, computer tech) that are politically neutral.


Carlos
"Rich D. - Looks like Dr. Douglas
only responds when he's sure he will win.

Narcissists are notorious for that."

A doctor with a God-complex???

That's just crazy talk.....

Rich D. - Looks like Dr. Douglas
only responds when he's sure he will win.

Narcissists are notorious for that.

They jump in, drop a stink bomb, and blame it on someone else.

Hey! It's just like Obama going after Rush Limbaugh, no?

Obama jack-boots private citizen Rush, and then hides out, refusing a public debate - because he's scared he may lose.

P.S. Not all cowards are Narcissists, but all Narcissists are cowards :-)

Justin
Your Biblical examples are inaccurate. The people of Judah swore an oath to God. He did not order them to kill unbelievers in their midst. They swore to Him that they intended to.

n
As strange as that sounds, yes. The psychologist suggested it and it improved things immensely for me. I was barely a C student in high school and by innundating myself with a ton of things at once, mixing in fun things with the work (like doing 5 math problems then 5 rounds in a turn based computer game) I got the work done and did it well. Didn't get this suggestion until the second college year after I failed the first one outright.

Curtal Friar
The hypocricy of lib dems surprises you?

Justin
So you agree then that you can focus as long as the interst is there. So you are not interested in religion is not necessarily that you dont like the organization of it. Discounting religion becuse you have no interest is much different. So if you had interest, in spite of any organization, you could focus on it.

n
it sucks because I imagine one of his forearms is bigger than the other....

Justin
So if I understand you correctly (and I really am trying to understand) you manage your being easily distracted by having mutiple things to do at once? Do I have that right?

Max Power
What's real funny about Obama is that

1. he lifted the executive order that prevents federal funding of ebryonic stem cell research.

2. He signed a bill containing a provision that prevents any federal monies from being used on embryonic stem cell research.

Max Power
Not really, as n already concluded, when I get interested in something, I can focus quite clearly. When I stop replying that means I've lost interest and moved on (I do have a bad habit of leaving Internet discussions in the middle).

If directed at the relationship thing, well, I think it would suck far more to try and force myself into a relationship with someone who doesn't fit my lifestyle. I would rather wait until I've met someone who can fully understand and love my flaw/quirk as opposed to trying to repress myself and being miserable just to be part of the crowd of married folk.

n
The actual term is hypomanic. Hypo is a prefix that means below. I'm not a full blown manic-depressive (that would be hypermanic). I don't have the depression aspect of it. I have the following symptoms:

Rapid speech
Fast thought process
Reduced sleep needs
Easily distracted

Sometimes I also come off as cold and uncaring (happens rarely, apparently it's a sort of resting mechanism). I've managed to work around this quite handily by NOT ritualizing my life. If I keep things coming rapid fire and consantly varying, I don't get distracted and can get my work done. This is one of the reason I come here (among other sites as well as writing a book) and engage in discussion because I get my work done by doing this (I know, strange, but this is how I do things).

This is a major reason, among other logical conclusions I've come to, why I reject an organized religion. It's the organized part, I don't do well with organized. You should see my DVD collection. 1,000 of them, no rhyme or reason as to where they are (I don't even keep them all in the same room), but I could tell you with pinpoint accuracy where each title is.

Max Power
why does that suck? For Justin's protestations how many hours has he been sitting here debating with us? Like most "manic" people they seem particularly able to focus when sufficiently interested in the subject matter.

n
RE: your 2:45 post

Absolutely spot on.

It cracks me up to see people praise Obama for "Overturning the evil Bush banning" of stem cell research. It was never banned and all this administration did was move the financial burden from the private sector to the already over-burdened taxpayer.

Like what PJ O'Roarke said about healthcare, "If you think it's expensive now, wait til it's free...."

gia
The point is dr adams shouldnt have to teach at a "conservative" college. Shouldnt college be a place where ALL ideas can be shared openly freely and with equaly regard? That doesnt happen now on most campuses.

Justin
Wow, that sucks....

Justin
"You don't reject the OT, the OT says to kill the non-believers. What more is there needed? A deeper understanding is not required at this point."

I disagree. Not all commands in Scripture are valid for all peoples and all times. I suspect that most, if not all, theologians would also agree. Context is necessary.

Stem cells
If stem cell research is so important and valuable why not let private industry invest in it? Why does it have to be paid for by the government? Or art for that matter? Proponents for government funding for the arts equate withholding such funding with censorship. How does that work? Create whatever garbage you like but pay for it yourself.

Obama --- The Rise Of "Ugly American"
roy offers, "well there are many similarities between politics and religion. i felt the same way about dubya."

Really? Bush removed politics from stem cell research and abortion. Obama has now made them, both, Politically Correct, again -- even extending his beliefs world-wide, where the USA will promote abortions in foreign lands. Talk about "Ugly American"!

Bush was about removing political interference on Americans, not imposing it. How is that creating a religious like doctrine?

Jim
why do you engage the doogie? he will twirl you into a circle with his psychobabble mumbo jumbo. Unless you write in a peer reviewed journal he doesnt believe anything you say. So when I step iin a pile of dung I dont know it unless I've read it in a peer reviewed journal. Well I dont need a peer reviewd journal to tell me when something stinks and his posts most certainly do.

smartest guy in the room
Must be a small room.

roy
So we agree all enegry has to be someplace. A basic characteristic of ALL energy is that it is cant be created or destroyed just tranformed. Unless as you say gravity is the only force or energy which can be created. How could I great gravity out of nothing right now? And if gravity can be created out of nothing what are the ingredients to produce gravity?

Jim
When I said the meeting point has to be based on honesty, I wasn't clear enough. I wasn’t referring to honest opinions. Rather, I meant that the information on which the opinions are formed needs to be honest rather than dishonest (i.e., truthful). Opinions are worthless if based on misinformation.

Take Adams for example. His "niche" as a propagandist is to target academics as a "group-to-be-hated" (or disliked or whatever). He does this, time after time, in a highly dishonest way. What he does is to take a small subset of highly unrepresentative faculty (e.g., the feminists or whoever set up the nude girl thing, last week the woman who became scared when the guy talked about guns, some gay group he doesn't like). In doing this, he makes it sound as if it's true of the university as a whole, and nothing is farther from the truth.

In reality, Adam’s targets are found in a very few departments, if any, related to the humanities and one or two social sciences. He ignores the rest of the university, which consists of all the science departments (which greatly outnumber the humanities), and in the case of a state university such as his, the various “professional colleges”: law, medicine, forestry, oceanography, pharmacy, home economics, engineering, etc, depending on the university. In my experience, academics have been the most objective, devoted, and altruistic people I’ve known (also the most egotistical, but that’s another issue).

This kind of "overgeneralizing from a non-representative subset" is a typical and extremely dishonest propaganda technique. It's designed to mislead people into forming erroneous opinions.

It is particularly disturbing to me because I've been an academic and believe very strongly in the value of higher education. I think that in consistently misrepresenting academia, Adams is doing a tremendous, anti-intellectual injustice. So someone has to take a stand against him.

Justin
Brushing your teeth and washing your body ARE rituals. I appreciate that you fancy yourself a free thinker and all good for you but few good things happens without a dependable foundation to build upon or launch from. I suspect you have many other rituals to which you adhere but preferinstaed not to recognize them as such. Even people with "irregular lives" need something upon which they can rely. BTW do you mean HYPERmanic instead of HYPOmanic?


Douglas - a question.
"Adams, McCullough, Prelutsky, Limbaugh, etc. who are consistently dishonest and hateful."

If they are CONSISTENTLY dishonest, i.e., pathological liars, then why do you read them? It would seem to be a waste of your time. And who are the "etc."? Are you including everybody? Perhaps your retirement would be more enjoyable if you took up golf or bingo.

Regarding that, I don't see that your arguments make your case.

Regarding your common charge of "hateful", that is much harder to prove, and is probably a useless endeavor on this forum. It's a given in the MSM and the huff'n'puff post fora.

We see total disregard for the ultimate welfare of those people that the liberal's nanny-state welfare society entraps by ignoring the Constitution, keeping them as dependent subjects for power purposes, but we don't automatically assume that the motive on the other side is hate (as you do regarding us) - we simply attribute it to greed and the inevitable corruption of power. Nor are we hostile to you personally, but to the serious damage that liberalism (not classic liberalism) has done to the fabric of society.

Finally, you are a hypocrite for continuing to use the honorific "Dr." in your screen name while not using it for Dr. Adams. I will begin to apply it to you when you apply it to Dr. Adams.

Dr. Rich D.

Justin
You could always go Pentecostal.

Very little ritual, if any.

Different sermon every week, and no recitation or repetition of lines.

And the music selection changes each week too.

If ya don't mind speaking in tongues, that is.

Max Power
Nope, relationships are very hard for me in this sense. I'm constantly on the fly and finding someone compatible with that lifestyle is incredibly difficult. I have an insatiable curiosity and love talking about new subjects I happen to pick up from time to time, this tends to be the deal breaker.

DemagogueObama- Do As I Say, Not As I Do
smartest guy in the room offers, "Dems say the word "fairness" then conservatives go all crazy yelling fire in a movie theatre."

Yes, you Lefties tend to practice demagogery, say one thing that means the opposite or more sinister outcome. You listen and sing along to the words -- even hum the tunes, but ignore what you see.

"Tax Justice" = Rob Peter To Pay Paul (punish producers to reward those that sit and wait).

"Pro Choice" = abortion on demand.

"Fairness Doctrine" = Politically Correcting the media -- Fascism.

"Stimulus" = exploit fear, that was caused by Politically Correcting Fannie & Freddie, to Politically Correct the health industry -- Fascism.

"War On Poverty" - Institutionalize poverty with Welfare to grow a permanent class of voters to exploit with a promise of more free money and services. Fascism.

Curtal Friar
Hey bro!!

That is truly sad. While their experiments were the essence of evil, you can't deny their contribution to science.

May those days never return....

Justin
"Hypomania + eidetic memory makes repeating anything a miserable experience."

I'm guessing you're not married then....

Max Power
What's truly sad is how much of our knowledge about genetics and related disciplines comes from the work of Dr. Mengele and his ilk.

Max Power
Good point. Still, I can't do rituals. I would literally go crazy if I had to sit in a church for 2 hours once a week and read the same lines over and over again. Hypomania + eidetic memory makes repeating anything a miserable experience.

Justin
"With heavy medication I could accept a weekly sitting in a church or temple of some sort."

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

"if God wanted all of us to spend 1/7th of our lives on prayer, he wouldn't make a hypomanic like me."

How do you know? I mean, maybe He made you the way you are to test your faith in Him? My point is, no one, I mean NO ONE knows for sure what God's plan is.

Prof Mike Adams, please be careful...
... what you wish for.

You said: "Larry could present them with charts they’ve never seen, which introduce them to the complex statistical idea of controlling for inflation."

Simple statistical controlling for inflation makes Reagan look worse, quite unfairly.

Previously, when the dollar was inflating like a helium balloon, under Carter, the Feds found that they could spend like drunken leftists and that the magic of inflation would eat away at their debts, artificially lowering their deficits (at the mere expense of making practically everyone in the country poor and miserable).

Reagan cut spending, but even more, he stabilized the dollar, radically reducing inflation and saving our economy. However, by cutting inflation, it turned out, the government (in its almost infinite budgetary inertia) was now spending REAL money instead of monopoly money. So, by saving the currency, Reagan's monetary policies led to inevitably increased deficits in "real" or "adjusted" dollar terms.

This is because Reagan was a great man, but just one man. Even he couldn't fix everything about what Washington was doing at one time. He chose to save us from 'stagflation' instead of brag about how low his deficits were compared to the ever-illusory GDP, which always gets whizbanged by inflationary policies.

In fact, we are seeing this today -- PBO brags that his incredibly profligate spending is not such a high percentage of his projected GDP -- but the projected GDP is growing, according to his projections, at a full 'credit expansion' rate. Its the old story of inflation being good for debtors, bad for creditors.

RE: Hitler State?
Hey, this is really starting to look like this, better stock up on long sleve brown shirts!!! And don't forget about the knee high leather boots with wooden heels so you can click your heels together!!! Sing Heil, baby!!!!

mac
lol well there are many similarities between politics and religion. i felt the same way about dubya. and you gotta admit that some on the right cultishly follow rush. i saw one post the other day saying rush has never been wrong lol. sorta like the pope i guess. infallible lol.

Adams is a hypocrite
if he was a true conservative, he wouldnt me teaching at a liberal state college in a blue state.

there are many fine conservative colleges. why isnt he teaching at one of them

n
No thanks necessary!

Whenever you inject humans into any situation, there will always be some abuse of power on some level whether it's a religious cult poisoning themselves in the name of God or scientists willing to torture people in the name of progress (just ask the Chinese about Unit 731....)

n - rituals
Well, no, I don't have rituals in life, unless you call brushing my teeth and washing my body to avoid health issues rituals. I've taken a job that does not have a set pattern. I don't wake up at the same time every day, even work days. My life is highly irregular and I've done this on purpose. Rituals are boring to me. They indicate something you do on a regular basis without fail. The regularity could be daily, weekly yearly or once a decade. I don't like repeating myself. It is partly attributed to my hypomanic behavior pattern, things that are slow, methodical and regular conflict heavily with my brain activity. I don't even pay my taxes at the same time every year. One year I may do it the second I get my W-2, other years I get the extension.

There is an aspect of religion that does not agree with me due to basicc biology. It's too slow, too methodical and too unchanging to me. The vast universe holds many wonders to discover, wonders left there by this God. If God wanted us to sit back and read old texts about something that may or may not have happened on this tiny planet in this vast universe a few thousand years ago, we wouldn't have a vast universe to enjoy. The sky would just be an impregnable wall that would hold us on this planet and we would be unable to view quarks and other such subatomic particles.

With heavy medication I could accept a weekly sitting in a church or temple of some sort. However, that would completely destroy who I am and I am not willing to accept that. Besides, if God wanted all of us to spend 1/7th of our lives on prayer, he wouldn't make a hypomanic like me.

Enough with the Ad Hominem talk!
Dr. Douglas says

"What I have found is that people then launch ad hominem and often childish attacks against me, making fun of my name, questioning my authenticity as a psychologist, and personally smearing me in various other ways"

OK, I am so sick of people throwing around ad hominem like they know what it means. You see the libs crying about ad hominem all the time. An insult is only an insult. Ad Hominem is a logical fallicy. This means that an argument is made against a person rather than against their argument. For example if I were to say Dr Douglas is wrong because hes a jerk that would be an Ad hominem. If I were to say Dr Douglas is a jerk, now thats an insult. Ad Hominem is simply a rule of arguing. It negates the argument being made because the argument itself cannot have validity when someone attacks the man rather than his ideas.

People here don't always make arguments. On these blogs comments mostly express how someone feels about a subject.


Blind Faith In Gov't -- Same As Religion
roy offers, "of course with organized religion comes the priestly class, which is just another way for certain people to get wealthy without having to work for a living."

I feel the same way about Fascists and their latest demagogue, Obama.

Max Power
Thank you.

Justin
On so many levels I agree with some of your last post while being terribly opposed to other portions of it. I agree sometghing greater then all of us exist to create the order that is the universe. I personally choose to call that God.

You are also right when you say there is no requirement to sit every sunday in a church but even as a jew jesus wentto temple and celebrated passover a "ritual" of the jews. It would at least suggest that Jesus believed in some kind of organized religion. Also the bible is full of "sacrifices" in modern days absent the available bird or calf to sacrifice we offer monetary sacrifices.

And back to "rituals", do you have no "rituals" whatsover in life? I hardly think thats true. While I agree God has no human qualities jesus did. He made mention many times about send the spirit to lead the church. I dont know which church but he spoke in ways that suggest he meant what he taught to be handed on for a long time.

n
it is stored somewhere. in the gravitational field. the energy is not tangible until you drop the weight. but this has to be counted in the negative column when calculating the total energy of the universe.

The science of radio?
In some respects i'm not surprised the Fairness Doctrine is such a big deal for the far right since Rush Limbaugh is your party leader and he is a shock jock.

In other respects I am surprised that

A. Conservatives ALWAYS step into this trap that the Dems lay out for them. Dems say the word "fairness" then conservatives go all crazy yelling fire in a movie theatre.

B. I know Conservatives do not like new technology and have a blantant disregard for science but we're talking about A.M. RADIO?!? Seriously folks you're whining about the radio? Instead shouldn't you all be trying to improve your tax cut proposals or how to better raise money to drill for oil?

P.S. The Internet lost you the election, radio is dead.


n
"you recognize the same thing can be said about science and the horrible things science can wreck on people right?"

Abso-freakin-lutely.....

Max Power
you recognize the same thing can be said about science and the horrible things science can wreck on people right?

n
Then what is the point of finding it in the NT? If the OT is something you accept completely, why should I find ANYTHING in the NT at all? Scripture is scripture, correct? An order is an order, correct?

You don't reject the OT, the OT says to kill the non-believers. What more is there needed? A deeper understanding is not required at this point. You're asking me something incredibly stupid. I don't care if the NT lacks it or not, you just stated you accept the OT and the OT tells you to murder people for not believeing in the OT.

You either accept the OT, which says murder those who believe differently than you, or you don't. Explain to me how some "deeper meaning" is required at this point.

geek
god states to who? thats my problem. by the way, any god that would condemn anyone to hell to suffer for eternity for being skeptical isn't the type of god i want to worship. if you guys are right i think i'll pass. i would expect a god to have more capacity for forgiveness than his creations. your god just seems to me to be petty and vindictive. but its not just you.i find all organized religions to be a crock. but i recognize political movements when i see them. organized religion is just another way to control and exploit the masses. of course with organized religion comes the priestly class, which is just another way for certain people to get wealthy without having to work for a living.

Hopeless
Psycharist: You are not dead.
psychotic: I am dead.
Psycharist: Do dead people bleed?
psychotic: No.
Psycharist pin pricks psychotic, producing blood
Psycharist: You're bleeding. You must be alive.
pschotic: I never knew dead people could bleed.
The liberal mindset is like the psychotic. Very resistant to reason. Their feelings tell them everything they need to know. They have their sense of superiority vested in these feelings. They are not easily changed by reality, hence liberalism is a mental disease.

Justin
First of all I NEVER rejected any part of the old testament. Show me where I indicated that please. What I challeneged you to do was cite an example from the NT that requires or even suggest a person be killed for non-belief. What I said was citing the OT shows a limited understanding of christianity.

n
A continuation. What you don't seem to comprehend is that I do not reject that there is a God. Much like Retired Geek says, science completely breaks down in any attempt to explain the origin of all time, space, energy and matter. Something simply cannot appear from nothing. Not only do I accept that there has to be something that exists outside of the normal concept of space/time, but it has to be an orderly, intelligent being for such rules to be put in place.

However, I do reject a wordly explanation being attributed to higher power forces. Religious texts are too much like crowd control for power and profit of individuals for me to ever accept any one of them. Religion is too frequently used, regardless of which faith you follow, as a means to extend the powers of an individual for personal gain and abuse. Why do we have billion dollar plus mega churches? As Geek pointed out, there is absolutely nothing in the NT that requires you to sit every Sunday in a room to be lectured and hand over cash to an organization. What does a being that can manipulate the very fabric of reality need with a human created commodity?

If you wish to look for evil in the world, the taint of Satan, look no further than the texts of religions. What better way for evil to work its magic than create organizations around the word of God? As we know, there is absolutely nothing from stopping this happening (see Branch Dividians, etc).

I don't accept God as having human qualities such as vanity (requiring people to worship). This looks to me as the efforts of an unscrupulous person to become wealthy and powerful. God is omnipresent, you don't need priests, churches or books to commune with a being that can see your actions and read your thoughts. We're fully equipped with what we need to live a virtuous life, all the details and rituals are pointless and I see them as evil people using the virtuous for their benefit.

roy
"do you have proof that god spoke to those folks or are you just taking their word for it"

This actually a valid point. Thomas Paine first broached this in The Age of Reason stating that the Bible is in fact just heresay. None of it is actual revelation, instead it is a collection based upon the experiences of individuals written by someone else.

While your statement is a valid one, it misses the whole point of religion.

FAITH

It is faith in a higher power and a faith in His, or whatever one worships, "plan" without knowing what the actual plan is that drives religion. A faith that you are part of something bigger than just your earthly bonds, faith that you serve a higher purpose than just watching American Idol while pounding Taco Bell.

Faith

The other side of the coin is that some people cannot live without their faith, and use that faith to justify everything they do. Some of these things can be truly horrible.

roy
The "potential" energy does not disappear its just in a different form. The "potential" energy in a log of wood could be described as "negative" but like all energy it is only tranferred not created or destroyed. The "negative" energy still has to be somewhere.

Off to my volunteer work

Have a great afternoon.

Roy from IL

Where did God come from - I have no idea - God states he is without beginning or end - eternal.

Why don't you ask Him when you meet Him?

You may have more important things to discuss with God, than His origin or lack thereof.

n
You misunderstand, I'm no lib. You've probably not followed me on the financial stuff and other social welfare styled topics here. Now, my question is this, why do you reject specific parts of the OT but accept others? This seems a contradition to find Genesis the ultimate historic truth but to ignore Chronicles or Isaiah out of some personal decision. Both are from the same book. Is the NT a rejection or an extension of the OT? Can't be both.

I'm aware the NT doesn't say go out and kill heretics. It does, frequently, try to bully us into following the word of the scripture (to the letter) out of fear of being in eternal pain.

n, you followed a common "hardliner" approach to the debate. You asked me to find something that doesn't contain the evidence when presented with evidence. How about this, find an accounting book and tell me where in a passage that says the OT is not incorporated into the NT and we can continue this ridiculous discussion.

Roy from IL

Where did the space com from for this gravitational field and where did the gravitational field come from?

You are a foolish person!

n from FL

I am NOT against organized religion (dependent on what their organization accomplishes), I an just NOT for organized religion per se.

"The anointing you received from God abides in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you this. Instead, because God's anointing teaches you about everything and is true and not a lie, abide in him, as he taught you to do."
1 John 2:27 NIV

geek
whatever slick. on the contrary, my concept is both scientific and logical. and your views are the ones based on feelings. do you have proof that god spoke to those folks or are you just taking their word for it based on your feelings?

Dr Douglas,
I haven't seen all of your posts. Not been here too long.
The ones I have seen all seem to have the word "dishonest" or "hateful" at the start,with a variation in the mix,then attack and no real explanation that I can follow. I'll try pay more attention.

My problem with it is that an opinion can be neither honest nor dishonest. Agreement is optional.

The collumn writers such as Adams writes mostly about his personal encounters and his perceptions of them. I'm not a witness to the events so I take him at his word till events prove to me that I cannot.

The other writers you mention also write about their own personal viewpoints. Although as a libertarian, I never did get the sense Burt P. was attacking me.

While I agree with you about propaganda, I don't like no matter which side uses it, left or right. As a tool of war, OK, but we haven't got to that point, yet.

Now, if you want to see dishonest and hateful, may I suggest Democrat Underground, I looked there once.......

n
if a weight is lifted in the gravitational field of earth the energy is stored. it was not lost. where is it stored? in the gravitational field. to recover the energy all you have to do is let it go. the gravitational potential energy is just the energy of the gravitational field. this has to taken into account in regards to the law of the conservation of energy. and since it is potential energy, it has to be a negative number. actual energy is counted as a positive number.

Have they been reported?
I certainly hope that this incident has been reported to the proper authorities. The sick and perverted people who were taking naked pictures of children are clearly guilty of participating in the creation and distribution of child pornography - as are the members of the WRC.

They should be sent to jail for a long, long time.

what the local newspaper wrote:

Here is a link to the story printed in the local newspaper if you want the full story.

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20090224/ARTICLES/902 240264

retired geek wrote:
When debating Collectivists you will notice that most regard their leaders with the adoration usually reserved for the 'Messiah' or highly revered religious leaders. This has become readily apparent with Barack Obama but was present with FDR, Kennedy, Carter and Bill Clinton.

You forgot to add Reagan to the list.

n
"Do you often make decisions about things based solely on the actions of one person or situation?"

This would be a valid question if it only happened with one person or situation. Instead you get Jim Jones, the Branch Davidians, Islamic extremists, etc.

I'm not condemning everything, but there is a pattern of abuse when it comes to organized religion that cannot be denied.

gia
and you may very well get what you pray for...

n
“Like all "good" lib debaters you utter statements never previously made and seek to condemn those who "said' them”

That happens to me constantly, anytime I disagree with the author. It seems 1/3 of my posts are refuting something I never said, implied or was even related to the topic at hand. I believe these are the result of preconceptions that some folks have. In this case, isn’t it amazing what “’good’ lib debaters” some diehard conservatives are?

Max Power
Do you often make decisions about things based solely on the actions of one person or situation? This seems a unique feature of religion. One bad person or situation is enough to throw people off religiion but rarely do we do that with other things in life. A lousy experience at a restaurant doesnt keep me from trying another. Or buying a lemon of an automoblile doesnt make me want to ride the bus. I wonder if it isnt more that people have come to decide they "shouldnt" have to live according to the rigors of most religions.

roy
How is "potential" gravitational energy negative?

Feb 17, 2009

On Monday, Seattle police arrested a 40-year-old Shoreline man in front of Whittier Elementary in Crown Hill after officers caught the man masturbating in his truck outside of the school.

According to a police report, officers found the man sitting alone in his truck, completely naked with "various pornographic material" next to him on the seat. "On the dashboard was a bottle of KY lubricant," the report says. "There were approximately 10 children...in view as [he] masturbated."

wwsword
"As for the claim that more black men murder than whites, this is only because Adams accepts the FBI's definition of murder, which leaves out the victims of corporate violence and illegal wars. Like most people who are uncritical of the legal system, Adams would not regard the person in charge of the design of the Ford Pinto as a murderer. But Adams should know better.

They are OUT THERE in great numbers.

News Alert
Unless I've been in a coma for some period of time, the fairness doctrine was abolished in '87 and is still gone. While I don't want it back, I am surprised most of you are so afraid of your salvation.

For Spasm and the rest of this crowd, I would want the return of the fairness doctrine. You are all acolytes of a failed philosophy. The country as a whole knows it. The conservative movement is a paper tiger.
Without the fairness doctrine you will become a memory in a few years, like a bit of Scrooge's undigested suet.

In your hubris, no liburd could ever match Rush. Really? Posit the idea that a liberal commenter was as widely heard and as popular as Rush and all the little imitators were trying to out do "Liberal Man". Because of all the blame heaped on conservatives for the economic catastrophe, no radio station was willing to put a losing show on the air. Everyone was listening to the other guy.

Rush, like all humans, will die some day. His conservatism will die with him. Without the fairness doctrine you might never come back as a movement to be reckoned with.

As an end note, how does Adams know most of the traditional conservative ideas are not being taught in his university? I would posit they are presented and they go nowhere.

Roy from IL

This may come as a surprise to you - I don't care what you think - nor am I interested in changing your feelings masquerading as thinking.

Your concept is not scientific or even logical.

All humans have free will - exercise yours.

From the Party of Tolerance & diversity
Liberals are such Hypocrites, they love to extol the virtues of being Tolerant and how they embrace diversity. Fact is neither of those qualities apply to your average Liberal. Trying to shut down Free speech and opposing views is to be expected from Dictatorships. Is that what Liberals are all about? You bet they are.

Fairness Doctrine
Mike, you obviously live in a fantasy world. No self respecting liberal/democrat would ever let anyone with another point of view express that view. Something like that might actually become an American way of life and you can't let happen as we've become the new Soviet Union. You know one party, one point of view, and the government owns everything including the people from cradle to grave.

The Fairness Doctrine:
Dear Mike,
I agree with you and must say It is shocking how our Universities have become more about indoctrination vice education. What a shift!!! This bodes ill for our Higher Education Institutions. Furthermore, why are the revolutionary tactics of Che being taught in many of our State Universities? Why are they not instead taught about the American Revolutionaries and what they accomplished? History classes are probably another area that needs balance where what actually happened is taught, vice revisionist history. Just a thought. Thanks again for your stand for the truth.
Sincerely,
Hal Howell, B.A., M.A.R.
CPO USN(Ret.)

n
"Doesnt that make organized religion a good thing?"

Sure it does.

But the problems with organized religion start when an individual, or group presumes to know what God's plan really is. From there they can twist the word of God to fit any agenda they want.

God exists in your heart, not in a 40,000 square foot monster church with collection plates the size of bathtubs.

My opinion only...

n, geek
since potential gravitational energy is negative, the net energy of the universe is zero. which means it could arise from literally nothing. it is the ultimate free lunch. a vacuum fluctuation that has a slight tendency to inflate. i find that easier to believe than an omnipotent creator who has always existed. where did he come from? and why should i believe some long dead guys who are telling me that god spoke to them? why should i believe that? not only did he speak to them directly, but evidently he spoke to the council of nicea, where it was decided which gospels were deemed worthy of inclusion in the new testament and which were not. but no political considerations were involved right?

Justin
Do you recognize what makes CHRISTians different then jews? If all that was meant for us to believe was the OT then there would have been no Jesus. To christians Jesus sets the standard to which we are to strive. Show mw where he supports killing.

Justin
says:

Nudity in and of itself is not sexually exciting. Except for those living highly sheltered lives (the ones that usually get offended by this sort of thing and go overboard), people don't get aroused by the mere sight of bare skin, it takes actions or poses that indicate the desire for physical contact.

I sincerely doubt that there are many hetrosexual men who are not aroused by naked women. Or many homosexual men who are not aroused by naked men. Men are visual creatures.

As to naked children, I would think that we should err on the side of caution and not show such pictures because of the number of pedophiles in this society. I would also suggest that a 12 year old girl may and is most likely sexually mature and should not be shown naked at all as she is not of legal age of consent and there are many heterosexual men that could not help being aroused by the sight of a naked teenage girl. It is our obligation to protect children.

n from FL

Collectivists hold their view as something higher than self and their 'Sacrifice is for the Common Good', so it becomes a 'Noble Goal' of bringing 'Hope' and social justice to the least among us.

Most, if not all Collectivists have made this 'Noble Goal' their higher power and see Individualists as mean-spirited, bigoted, intolerant and the antithesis of their higher power.

Collectivists have an almost religious zeal and commitment to their 'Noble Goal' and revile and loathe Capitalism almost like it is Lucifer - some are actually embarrassed by individual achievement and the success of America. Collectivists pay little attention to facts and reality because their reality is looking forward to the Utopia they are working to build.

When debating Collectivists you will notice that most regard their leaders with the adoration usually reserved for the 'Messiah' or highly revered religious leaders. This has become readily apparent with Barack Obama but was present with FDR, Kennedy, Carter and Bill Clinton.

Individualists discuss and point out problems they have with their leaders, Collectivists defend their leaders, despite any readily obvious faults and blunders, almost to insanity.


These are my views on Collectivism and what Barack Obama is bringing to America.

Robin-The Fairness Doctrine
Right on Robin and you can add to that the ultra-left print media is tanking. Many news papers are in trouble OR going out of business and I'm SURE part of the reason is thier bending over for Obama. Its a disgrace.

Retired Geek
I guess I agree with you in priciple but isnt mans responsibility to get to God therefore thats why we have organized religions? People who have like thinking about God and mans relationship with Him gather together to strengthen and support one another in developing that relationship. Doesnt that make organized religion a good thing?

Justin
Like all "good" lib debaters you utter statements neverpreviously made and seek to condemn those who "said' them. Let me start with the last sentence. When did I "conclude" that religions allow you to believe what you want? What did I write that made you believe that was my point of view?

As to your scriptures 2 OT citations represent a limited understanding of christianity. Cite NT readings "requiring" that non believers be killed then we can talk.

+4, Lowest To Date

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 36% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-two percent (32%) now Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +4, his lowest rating to date.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/oba ma_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

I am not a member

I am not a member of any organized religion - why?

I believe religion is mans way to God - I believe Jesus Christ is Gods way to man.

Do I fellowship with other Christians?

Of course I do.

Supreme Court
"Sadly I think its obvious society has decided NOT to protect children. How long will it be before society decides who else doesnt deserve protection? "

South v. Maryland

"…there is no Constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen."

Douglas
That is not at all what I said. I denounced the Fairness Doctrine then went on to comment on the quality of the writing.

n
I don't like having to drag this out all the time (seriously, a guy who never cracked open a Bible is able to find this stuff on Google but the people who lived their whole lives as Christians don't recognize it), but The Bible, tells its followers to outirght kill those who reject the Bible. Example:

"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Seems to me that by not just killing off non-believers, a good Christian is expected to also wipe out the individual's offspring in the process. These sort of passages are stock in trade for most organized religions on the planet and are usually followed up by promises of eternal suffering in some sort of Hell or another.

Now, tell me, how do you come to the conclusion that religions allow people to believe what they want?

Justin et al

Doug Adam was a famous British Satirist (Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy among others), who said "Humans on Planet Earth is actually an experiment being conducted by White Rats.

"What to do if you find yourself stuck with no hope of rescue: Consider yourself lucky that life has been good to you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far, which given your present circumstances seems more likely, consider yourself lucky that it won't be troubling you much longer."

"In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people angry and has widely been considered as a bad move."

"The Point of View gun conveniently does precisely what its name suggests. That is if you point it at someone and pull the trigger, they instantly see things from your point of view. It was designed by Deep Thought, but commissioned by a consortium of intergalactic angry housewives, who after countless arguments with their husbands were sick to the teeth of ending those arguments with the phrase "You just don't get it, do you?"

Finally a Doug Adams quote that brings Obama to mind:

"If there's anything around here more important than my ego, I want it caught and shot now!"





Retired Geek
Sadly I think its obvious society has decided NOT to protect children. How long will it be before society decides who else doesnt deserve protection?

Denise’s list is inaccurate...

and too broad.


Dr. Doolittle is RIGHT!

I forgot to include SEXIST and DISCRIMINATORY TOWARDS CHILD SEX PERVERTS.


I stand corrected.

New math? wwsword

Are 42 and 34 now a majority of 100?

A real pity is how much of the violence in society is black on black or will you deny that happens?

Dr Adams writes to provoke and he really pushed your burrons.

The Real Issue

The real issue here is NOT what is pornographic, or what isn't pornographic.

The real issue here is whether or NOT society should protect children?

The POTUS Barack Obama, believes that a baby who survives an abortion attempt, has NO rights or NO protections due any American Citizen and thus must die a death of extreme suffering and cruelty, by withholding water, food and medical treatments.

Why, because when a woman contracts for a dead baby - that woman deserves a dead baby.

Should society protect the weakest among us - our children - that is the question.

Illegal War?
Last time I checked, warfare doesn't have a set of legal codes that need to be satisfied before one can be engaged in. There is no such thing as an illegal war, it's a concept invented by those who prefer to sit back and hope the enemy simply gets bored of sacking villages and raping women due to the lack of challenge.

Who is the "good guy" in the fight, that's a different story, and one that is not easily determined.

Dougless
People who look at naked pictures of little kids are sick and need to be locked up. Even employers will make you take down pics of your own children, if they deam them offencive to other employees. My question to you dougie, did you enjoy your pics? Do you like little children? Dougie becareful what you say, as this does not envolve 1st amendment rights. Or do you think this is ok to.
Kirk

Justin
Which religion "forces" you to believe anything? You can choose to believe or not and accordingly call yourself a member of that group or not.

Society's Double Standards exposed
An observation: On the subject of “fairness doctrine” with respect to society’s double standards, the following individuals should also be invited to speak: (a) Dr Warren Farrell (“Myth of Male Power”) & Tammy Bruce (“Death of Right & Wrong”). Both authors expose a pro-feminist paternal society in general & a legal system in particular that coddles dysfunctional women by rationalizing & enabling their misbehavior. In this current state on institutionalized Misandry (Men=bad & Women=good), irresponsible men are accorded financial penalties at best and prison at worst, whereas irresponsible women are coddled by American Society. . In this current state on institutionalized Misandry (Men=bad & Women=good), irresponsible men are accorded financial penalties at best and prison at worst, whereas irresponsible women are coddled by American Society. Men do bad things because they are inherently evil whereas women do bad things because of exterior/interior “forces beyond their control” (e.g., evil manipulative MEN, mental illness, unsubstantiated “abuse”, etc.): CAPT Lisa Nowak, Mary Winkler, Andrea Yates, Debra LaFave, etc.

For example, the infamous Mr. Vick's many crimes (i.e., cruelty to animals) were indeed despicable & apparently merited a 12-18 month prison term. However, a legal travesty has occurred in the shadow of the Vick controversy w/ little if any comment by the MSM: a certain aforementioned woman-child, Mary Winkler, murdered her husband in cold blood, was convicted and only received a 6 month sentence after making unsubstantiated “Domestic Violence” accusations against her murdered husband. After leaving prison, she later obtained custody of her children. Yet this injustice has yet to merit a comment by any ostensibly "conservative" pundit, especially the female- chauvinists who subscribe to the “woman=good/ men=bad” myth. The silence is deafening.

Nicki
Nicely stated.

WWSword
What illegal wars would they be, boy?

The one in Haiti?

I'm kinda with Retired Geek
My qualms with atheism is that we lack what I like to call a Grand Unified Theory of Stuff. Where did stuff come from? If it was a Big Bang, which I don't particularly argue with due to what we're observing in the universe, where did the stuff in the Big Bang come from? There is no such thing as spontinaeity, if it looks spontaneous, that just means we haven't identified all the actions that impacted the behavior. The concept of spontaneous is merely philosophical.

That said, I find the organized religious groups to be farcical as well. Religions like to try and micromanage history and demand we accept something as true that has no evidence beyond a book that contradicts other books that make similar unsupportable claims. They also, almost universally, supplant human flaws onto a so-called perfect being. The Christian God, for example, has the flaws vanity, greed and wrath. Demanding to be worshipped is vanity, expecting all souls to worship him is greed and sending those who refuse to believe to a pit of eternal punishment is wrath. These are human flaws, not features of a perfect being.

I don't see much of a difference between God and a good scientist. Both are merely hands-off observers. This is why the Atheist claim of "why didn't X disaster get avterted" and why prayer doesn't do anything can be reconciled. God isn't there to interfere, just observe and see what we do with our limited lives.

wwsword
You're another crack pot. Unless the pic is of your kid what interest or reason would you have to possess pictures of naked children? If you did have them why display them in public? Did the children or parents/guardians give their consent to have the pics displayed in public?

As to the "murder" issue dr adams' point is more that no matter how you define murder more whites are on death row. why dont you dind some other crusade.

wwsword
I just vomited in my mouth at this ignorance! Where do these maggots come from?

those of you who think...
...that atheists' lives have no meaning, aren't doing your faith and perceptions of it any favors either. Some people believe, and some people don't. That's just life. I know plenty of folks who live fulfilled, happy, meaningful lives as kind, generous, content people without believing in a higher being. Insulting those who don't believe in a God as devoid of meaning or contentment is ignorant.

People's faith is something they come to on their own. That's why we have free will.

Methinks there's growing up to do on both sides.

And by the way, NOT ONCE in our exchanges did Dr. Adams insult me as devoid of meaning, or evil or hateful or anything else of this nature, even though he knows my beliefs.

Maybe those of you who choose to do that can learn something from him.

Retired Geek
EXCELLENT POST! You said more logically what I always wondered about the "big bang" theory. I always wondered if everything we know or could possibly comprehend is in the universe where was the universe before the big bang?

Perversion and Ideology
Adams writes that "pictures of naked children...are...grotesque or perverted." Just because Adams' god cursed all humans to be born naked doesn't mean that they are grotesque or perverted.

If anybody looks at a naked child and thinks it's perverted, this can means only one thing: the observer is a pervert. Nothing about a naked child strikes me as obscene because I am not aroused by naked children. In much of the world children go naked everyday. These societies don't have a problem with child molestation. This is because they don't sexualize children the way Adams and his ilk do.

Then this: "most people on death row are white despite the fact that most homicides are committed by blacks."

This just goes to show that Adams would benefit from actually studying his discipline instead of ranting on Town Hall. Of those who sit on death row today, 42 percent are black, the vast majority male. Since 1976, 34 percent of those executed in the United States have been black men. Black men comprise only around 6 percent of the US population. Thus, controlling for population, black men are far more likely to sit on death row and be executed.

As for the claim that more black men murder than whites, this is only because Adams accepts the FBI's definition of murder, which leaves out the victims of corporate violence and illegal wars. Like most people who are uncritical of the legal system, Adams would not regard the person in charge of the design of the Ford Pinto as a murderer. But Adams should know better.

Robert
Thats easy! Talk radio on both counts!!!! Thanks for helping us clear that up.

Pornography vs Photography
I haven't seen the display as discussed by Dr. Adams so I can't offer a full opinion on the matter. However, we do have to understand that there is a distinction between pornography and a photograph.

The question at hand is this display with the underage female of the sole purpose to sexually excite the viewer? If not, then it isn't pornography.

In the USA, you CAN legally photograph and disseminate underage female nudity. It is all in how the image is portrayed. Nude kids in National Geographic? Just fine. Medical journals? Acceptable. Art? Depends on what they're doing.

This is where I have to stop with the opinion as I have not seen the picture in question. Nudity in and of itself is not sexually exciting. Except for those living highly sheltered lives (the ones that usually get offended by this sort of thing and go overboard), people don't get aroused by the mere sight of bare skin, it takes actions or poses that indicate the desire for physical contact.

Again, I would have to have seen this photo to have decided. I don't particularly care to view nude children myself, but I do have to accept that in a free society, even if I don't like it, that others may and if no harm is coming to any party we have to allow it. Otherwise, we cease being a free society (we've already lost that designation decades go, by the way).

Why I am a Recovered Atheist

I was raised in a family that were Humanist/Atheist and Marxist, for the most part, and this thinking went back several generations.

My doubts about Atheism started in my twenties.

Questions came to mind when reading such books as 'Why I am not a Christian' by David Hume, when his entire premise was based on a definition that he stated, "The Universe is a closed order".

Charles Darwin and his 'Origin of the Species' brought more questions to mind.

Finally, the 'Singularity of the Big Bang' theory, settled my questions with these issues.

1) Where did Energy originate?
2) Where did Space originate from?
3) Where did Motion originate?
4) How did Time originate?

The final death blow to Origins came, when I asked myself, where did the materials come from for the 'Singularity of the Big Bang'.

At age 32, I finally realized that Atheism and all of its argumentation, was a farce.

Thank God I was free at last!


Athiests
Why are athiests so angry about something which does not exist? I am not angry with the boogeyman nor am I angry with anyone who believes in him, yet athiests seek to wipe out something they claim doesnt exist. Does that make sense to anyone else but an athiest?

Liberal atheists

First - I am a Conservative who is not religious. Although I don't believe in God, I wouldn't call myself an atheist because that seems to mean someone who feels the need to deny the existence of God and due to my sense of what is logical I can't find it in myself to hate something that I don't believe exists.

That said, if I was a liberal homosexual who hated God like Will or a disturbed college lecturer with delusions of adequacy like Douglas I wouldn't be woried about Christians interceding to to pray for my immortal soul or anything else which consenting Christian adults may do in the privacy of their homes and churches.

I would be seriously terrified by only one religion, the one that would have me crushed under a wall or thrown off a cliff if I was Will, or which would end my freedom even to practice psychiatry, let alone teach it or, Allah forbid, teach it to women if I was Douglas.

But yet these fools jump to the defence of Islam at every opportunity. Turkeys clearly can and do vote for Christmas.

Rowdy
I hate to break it to you but your self amputated florescent green hand probably wouldn't shock too many people nowadays as somebody already has either beat you to it as real life or as art.

Now that you mention it, I recall a rock climber a few years ago got his arm wedged in a crevice. Trapped on the clff, he drank his own urine for survival. Finally he had to self amputate to free himself (the old wolf chewing off his own leg to free from snare scenario).

The guy survived and he didn't do it for art but if some guy tried imitating this guys life as art, few would be impressed or shocked. The real deal trumped it by far.


Universities VS Talk Radio
Consider the respective contexts of "the university" versus that of "talk radio": The former almost completely dominated by liberal thinking, the latter nearly exclusively by conservative thought. Which represents the exercise of freer though? And why?
The old maxim that "students should be made safe for ideas rather than ideas safe for students" is represented better in which of the two settings?

People, people people
why do you engage posters like "a"? he says things just to incite you.

Mike
great idea. We should push this to tv and news papers to. I bet this would be the only conservitive ideas these kids ever hear. It would be good for them.
Kirk

Doug
You are a complete ignoramous! My evidence? "Showing children in the nude is simply acadmic freedom". That was from your last post. If you have to be told why that statement and the person who wrote it is stupid then the point is already made.

Will, pathetic
Atheism is a logical absurdity. To be an atheist your life can have no meaning. Logically you have to believe this. Since this is what you believe, quit posting, you don't mean any of it anyway. No matter what you try to say, I can logically show you that you can't mean it.

a
Just curious. What will you say before a righteous God when you die ... if let's presume for just a second ... that you are wrong in your disbelief? Given that His Word says that unbelievers will be relegated to a devil's hell "forever"?

Frankly, I'd rather believe in God ... who, as Nicki states, causes people to try and do good things ... then learn that I was wrong when I die, than to not believe now and learn that I was wrong after I hit hell.

The choice is yours by the way. He made you a free agent and does not impose Himself on anyone. Although I don't agree with the "Biblicality" of all the book's premise, I do suggest a reading of "The Shack". It goes a long way toward answering the questions of why bad things happen if God is what He says He is.

Personally, I love Him with all of my heart and that's a GREAT thing! He has never let me down yet. Forget the hell thing. The relationship that I have with Jesus is worth it all even if there was no Heaven or hell.

Where Is God
I find posts where people point out bad things that are happening and ask "Where is God?" We have been given our free agency to act in a good manner or a bad one. That some choose to kidnap, rape, murder and other things does not mean that God does not exist, it means that some people are just bad people. And when we look at accidents that hurt or kill, well, such things happen. God could prevent all of this, but then all creation would be stopped. Bad things happen to good people, but God is still there to bring those hurt souls home to heaven. I pity those who refuse to believe in God.

THEY GIVE US ARTISTS A BAD NAME
Why do artist of today think they have done something new when they present "shock junk" as art?

The Urine-Christ in a bottle was world famous--even though it was shock junk art...

I have seen great art all over the country and it never gets press...however, these Pis-Ant fools who think they are being "avant-garde" get a lot of press.

MAYBE I WILL JUST CUT OFF MY HAND, SPRAY IT FLOURESCENT GREEN AND FRAME IT...THAT SHOULD GET SOME ATTENTION.

ROWDY BOOTS

moose
I found it ironic as well that "Doug" is telling "Douglas" to stop imitating "Dr. Douglas"


Rocky...
I was going to add to my last that there's no reason to hate Jesus... It's not like he was a pedophile prophet who would hit his child bride! But I decided to leave it alone. heh

I see nothing wrong with faith as long as it doesn't harm others.

ho hum
I have to agree with MikeR. Showing children in the nude is simply acadmic freedom. Adams wants to convince blue haired ladies that the sky is falling. It is not.

Will
"Let's say 12 miners are trapped in a mine. And CNN and MSNBC and Fox News show pictures live from the scene. The family members, being interviewed, all say they are "praying" for their son or brother to be returned safely. Some touch their crucifix dangling around their neck. In many cases (most?), these miners will perish from asphixiation. WHERE WAS THE GOD?? Apparently the god is supposed to "listen to" and "answer" the prayers.


That post is so monumentally stupid its hard to believe. Well, on a positive note at least you didnt bring up the "gay" thing again.

ho hum
What can you say (aside from the same tedious comments made in every column by the same people including me)? The Fairness Doctrine is outdated, outmoded, ineffectual and anything but fair. I honestly can’t think of a single argument in support of it. The people who promote it are wrong. The motivations for clinging to it range form sinister to paranoid. Aside from that this column is just a series of clever remarks that have all been made several of times before.

a
Speaking for myself and not for Todd, I can assure you that, while a life-long Christian conservative, it was indeed "rational deduction" and objective evidence in my scientific education (through the Doctoral level, mind you) that strengthened and solidified my belief. To be honest, it is Dawkins and his "secular" ilk who are either a- or even anti-scientific in their belief.

Great Post, Nicki (VA)
You have described my philosophy regarding organized religion pretty much to a T. The only thing you left out was my disdain and disgust with those who corrupt religious beliefs for evil purposes. There have been countless examples of this over the centuries. I did a research paper on this for a Sociology class in college many years ago and it opened my eyes to how much evil there is in this world. And when evil is perptrated in the name of religion - any religion - it is especially horrific. The prime example in today's times is, of course, the use by some of Islam for destructive and hateful political purposes.

While there are a few exceptions, the Christian religions as a whole are beneficial to society and so should not be condemned for simply existing.

Re: Will
Will, God did answer their prayers. He said, "No." Last time I checked that was still an answer.

Joycey
I'm not sure it's that they hate Jesus. I can't see how one can be so irrational so as to hate a being that has absolutely no bearing on their lives. I don't get it.

Great article Mike
As usual your wit & wisdom make mincemeat of the elitist intellectuals.

Nicki
These people that you do not understand hate Christians because they hate Jesus. As He said they would.

a
You choose to call Jesus and witnesses to His death and resurrection liars and I choose to believe them.

I guess I should be thankful...
...that will didn't steer the conversation toward gays again. I had a fair amount of confidence that I would see him obsessively bring up homosexual...

I'm pretty much agnostic. If I WERE religious, about the only faith that would make sense to me is Paganism. And yet, I'm not seeing how religion, and specifically judeo-christianity in any way "poisons" anything. Most Christians I have known have been nothing but kind to me. Some have been a bit too overzealous in trying to convert me, but so what? Dr. Adams has been nothing but kind to me when we have communicated, even though he knows I'm not Christian in the least. Religious people tend to make efforts to take care of their own, help others, and do works of charity. I find nothing wrong with that.

So they believe it what you call a mythological god... so the hell what, nimrod! Why does it bother you? Why do you care? Let them have their beliefs, if those beliefs give them comfort and make them kinder people who try to do the right thing. Why does it fall upon self-righteous anal orifices like yourself to tell them how wrong they are to believe what they believe?

You think Christians try to impose their beliefs on others? What is it that pernicious, festering hemorrhoids like Michael Newdown are trying to do?

Sheesh!


Great article Mike
The Fairness Doctrine you're talking about is a great idea which is why it'll never come to pass. Liberals are way too limited. My 7 yr. old niece has more sense than they do.

Jim: Good observation. My thoughts exactly.

To the Atheists: How or why hate someone who doesn't exsist?

God Bless you all,
Jenn

isn't it ironic
that mike adams has some kool-aid drinking followers in OR...and the imposter Douglas is from there...hmmm.

Poor Will
That's it. Poor Will.

Todd
Great post and yes CS Lewis does a great job in Mere Christianity. However why do you say except with abortion the truth is elegant simple and clear? What unclear simple or elegant about that issue?

Once Again
Dr Adams has clearly pointed out the idiocy of the liberal leftist agenda. Whoever said liberlism is a mental disorder was right o nthe money

Will wrote
'Please read Hitchens and Harris everybody. Replace the religions with sanity.'

I have and I agree with them, and what you wrote.

But only on this mind you.

And that miners will be found in mines.


One more time
In re "Dr." Douglas, I again quote some dialog from an old radio programme.
Announcer: "Ask Doctor Science!"
Second voice: "He's not really a Doctor."
Voice of Doctor Science: "I have a Master's Degree...in Science!"

Oh, and don't references to, " when I was president of....." remind some people of another infester of TH who often alludes to all his (phony) past achievements?

Will...
the spelling is minor, not miner. Thinking about it in your case, you've probably had a few minors. Maybe miners too.

Hallowed halls of academia?
WRONG!! Hollow halls of MACADAMIA cause their full of NUTS!!!!!


-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

Doug in Florida
I would have to agree with you. This poser posting in the name of "Dr. Douglas" isn't rational. At least most of the people I have met who studied psychology were of the scientific sort. That would mean that they actually observed and listened and were able to form reasoned conclusions about that which they had observed.
Therefore, for this "Dr. Douglas" of Oregon to say the things he does about Adams and Limbaugh, et al, a reasonable person would have to conclude he doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't agree with everything Rush or Mike or Michelle conclude in opinion, but I don't hear them lying or making up stuff.
This also points out a common fallacy, that propaganda is synonymous with lying. Wrong. Propaganda is symply effective rhetoric that can be absolutely correct, or it can be absolutely wrong, or it can be factually correct and used for evil purposes.
If the "Dr. Douglas" cited above is the real character, then those statements made by said character are a sad commentary on the state of so-called higher education. But this is nothing new. Dennis Prager often comments on how you have to go to an ivy league college to really become stripped of any wisdom.

The (new?) USA political slogan
Forget E Pluribus Unum. The universities are leading he way with the "new" mission statement:

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

For those who remember that this is Orwell, good for you. For those who don't, you will continue to be surprised as the new political order rolls across every principle for which Nathaniel Hale died. If you say "Who he?", you'll fit right in, don't worry.

Douglas
I know you're trying to discredit Dr. Douglas by writing ridiculous nonsense and hoping we'll think the words are his. Most of us are on to you, and you're just confusing the others. Your little joke has run its course. Time to give it a rest. Let him speak for himself.

Jim
I've pointed this out before and will do so again. The vast majority of my comments are aimed at the columnists and not at other commenters.

If you go through my posts, you will find that I strongly object to dishonesty and hatefulness. Denise’s list is inaccurate and too broad. My usual approach is to state rather bluntly that, for example, "this is another dishonest and/or hateful column". I then try to specify where the dishonesty/hatefulness lies and why I perceive it as such.

What I have found is that people then launch ad hominem and often childish attacks against me, making fun of my name, questioning my authenticity as a psychologist, and personally smearing me in various other ways. Or when I present actual data and references, the data is treated with scorn and ignored. They seldom, if ever, deal with the content of my arguments..

I can understand why people become upset as my opinions clash with basic political beliefs. But they need to understand that my real issues are with the conservative propagandists such as Adams, McCullough, Prelutsky, Limbaugh, etc. who are consistently dishonest and hateful. I believe some of these columnists are professional propagandists who aim to manipulate their readers. They target specific minority groups, depending on the author’s niche: Adams (academics, feminists, gays), Prelutsky (liberals in general, civil libertarians), Malkin (immigrants, poor people), and so on. I believe that this manipulation is bad for both conservatives and liberals.

As a psychologists I have spent a good deal of time studying political propaganda, rhetoric, and other persuasive methods. I hope you will agree with me that nothing good can come out of methods that are dishonest and hateful. This is why I feel obliged to stand up against it. If I do so in a manner that is too blunt, then that is my problem.

Anyway, if there is to be some middle ground, it has to be based on a respect for honesty.

Mere Christianity
I would invite any open-minded, honest liberal agnostic or athiest (yes, I am being sincere) to read the C.S. Lewis masterpiece "Mere Christianity". (or at least the Screwtape Letters for a good scare!)

Lewis is an intellectual giant. His carefully constructed arguments should resonate with anyone honest enough to consider his point of view. If I am correct, he was once a non-believer, that became one of the respected Christian philosphers of the 20th century.

As a former agnostic leftist, turned Christian conservative, I can assure you, I am familiar with both sides of many of the the arguments bewteen "left and right".

The one thing I can tell everyone, is we're all closer to each other in what we believe to be truth, than most realize. Even those that see truth in shades of gray. Often our arguments are more about the how rather the the why.

Except for abortion. The truth is so elegantly simple and clear, my 5 year-old understood instantly.

Not so quickly with why he should not sneak cookies and candy.

Dr Douglas,
I'm sure I will give you ample cause to dislike me in the future. For instance, I thought Denise's posting was fair.

Our Ideologies are too far apart and I'm not seeing a middle ground. At least, not yet.

Allow me to offer some help. These collumns are opinion pieces. They are posted in a conservative forum. The key word is "opinion".

If you spot a problem with the facts an opinion is based on, then please point the fact in question.If you are right, most of us will, I think, self-correct. If you're wrong, we'll call you on it.

Please keep in mind, we are as entitled to our opinions as you are to yours. Starting out with
accusations almost never ends well.

If you disagree with a position, explain your position. We'll listen. We may disagree, but we'll treat you with same level of respect that you treat us.

I just remembered why I hate typing.

Will
I try not to read the words you write because they're so filled with hate for those of us who love God, but I have finally dicided what you really want is to know the God we love and who loves us. You are obviously a very lonely individual who could have peace that passes all understanding if you would only open your heart and mind just a little bit. I pray for you.

Jim
You have made my day (week, month). It's so good to see integrity for a change.

Oh my gosh!
I HAVE all those religious/atheist books by Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens (and Sam Harris)! I guess I'm ahead of the curve! No need to take those classes from this quarter! I've read them all and incorporated them into my worldview! Give me a gold star!

Michael, we don't "hate" the God because he doesn't exist! Since he doesn't exist, we hate the way, as Chris Hitchens so aptly puts it, that "religion poisons everything". "Hating" the judeo-christian god is like "hating" the Sun God -- or the God of Rain -- or Zeus! Michael, these fictions are all the same. They work on and feed off of our primitive sense of wonder and fears of the unknown.


Let's say 12 miners are trapped in a mine. And CNN and MSNBC and Fox News show pictures live from the scene. The family members, being interviewed, all say they are "praying" for their son or brother to be returned safely. Some touch their crucifix dangling around their neck. In many cases (most?), these miners will perish from asphixiation. WHERE WAS THE GOD?? Apparently the god is supposed to "listen to" and "answer" the prayers.

Or the mother who's 8-year-old child has been kidnapped. Or the jews walking into the oven. WHERE'S THE GOD???

Please read Hitchens and Harris everybody. Replace the religions with sanity.

OK Dr Douglas,
I'll withdraw my speculation. Haven't got the full sense of who's who yet.

While I don't agree with you on anything I've seen you post, no one desrves that kind of smear.

Come on, people. If we are not going to better than the left that we oppose, what is the point of opposing them ?

Acadamia...Is that proper spelling? UGH
There are some things you just do not want to know. This is one. It just confirms what many believe.

Don Jones
TownhallPlus.com

Really Dr. Douglas?
Imitation is the sincerist form of flattery.

Besides, not once in your post did you disavow the "Douglas" post, you are miffed he took credit for your thoughts, and expressed them first.

Creepy. That would descrbe your approval of the pictures. Deny it, say you disapprove, and say it publicly.

Go ahead Dr. Douglas.

Dr. Doogie:
I've read your posts. They are creepy in the extreme. Must reflect the author.

Obviously people,
Douglas is not me. He is masquerading as me in order to smear me.
Which is creepy in the extreme.


Errrr
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that put Douglas on the borders of pedophilia.

Dr. Doogie scribbles:
dishonest smear
I don't see anything wrong with the pictures. When I was President of the Oregon State AAUP we looked at naked pictures of little children all the time.

And that speaks volumes about the lack of moral character of the members of the OSU chapter of the AAUP.

Mike, great article
Douglas, I sure hope you are going for sarcasm, buddy, because if you're not then you are seriously deranged.

The Fairness Doctrine
It's interesting to me that the liberals can't have a successful talk radio show about their ideals. Maybe it's because they can't formulate them, or they are unable to argue them successfully? You nailed another great article here! Would love to see Obama in that class! There are a few Barney Frank should attend.........no death row would be better.
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