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Wednesday, March 11, 2009
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Trigger Angry
by Mike Adams
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Odds are you’ve either heard of the phrase “trigger happy” or you’ve never been in a discussion about gun control. Leftists love to use the phrase “trigger happy” when they are justifying fascistic gun control policies that would curtail the rights of ordinary citizens. When leftists use the term “trigger happy” they get a mental image of a person who is just itching to kill a fellow citizen. I use a similar term, “trigger angry.” And when I use it I get a mental image of Professor Paula Anderson.

John Wahlberg gave a speech in Professor Anderson’s communications class at Central Connecticut State University (CCSU). The topic was a general one on relevant issues in the media. John decided to argue that concealed weapons permits would reduce violence and, more specifically, would have saved lives during the Virginia Tech massacre of 2007.

After John’s speech, his trigger angry professor decided to call the police. As a result, John was hauled down to the station and interrogated. To date, the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) has failed to provide John with the support he needs as his professor seeks to undermine his First Amendment rights en route to undermining the Second Amendment rights of all Americans.

The 23-year old Wahlberg was greeted by campus police officers who read off a list of all his registered firearms. When the campus police reminded Wahlberg that guns were prohibited in campus, they apparently were not aware that he lives off campus. In fact, he lives twenty miles off campus. He also keeps the guns in a safe.

Professor Anderson’s actions were outrageous, partly because the questions police asked were so invasive. Imagine police presenting a gay professor with a list of his sex partners and then reminding him that sodomy is against the law. But, wait, sodomy is a constitutional right. Wahlberg was talking about gun ownership.

What about the possible defamation resulting from the situation? Merely taking Mr. Wahlberg into the station for questioning will cause him to be perceived differently by students. But Anderson said she had a different perception in mind: The perception that merely discussing guns makes one violent.

I have to ask the obvious: Does Professor Anderson think discussing sex makes one a rapist? Would she take seriously anyone who held such a view? Should anyone who discusses sex be hauled into the police station, reminded that rape is illegal, and asked whether every sex act he had was consensual?

If you think that Professor Anderson is the only trigger angry professor at her university, think again. She said she consults her Chair and Dean every time she looks into a possible risk. That means other people helped her decide to have Wahlberg taken into custody. And a tenured member of the Faculty Senate Committee on Academic Freedom, Jerold Duquette, says he doesn’t know that he would have reacted differently. I tried to find a member of the Faculty Senate Committee on Firearms Freedom but there isn’t one.

My solution to professors like Paula Anderson is one based upon my belief that our universities would be better off if they did the exact opposite of what they are doing now. For example, Hamline University in Minnesota expelled a student for merely mentioning that he supported concealed weapons permits on campus. The student was re-admitted but only after taking a psychological evaluation.

So I propose that we put Professor Anderson on paid leave until she can be psychologically evaluated. In the unlikely event that she passes the exam she can be reinstated. If not, so much the better for Connecticut taxpayers.

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Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.
 
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WRAT WRANGLER
Thanx for the info. That's good to know.

Guess who, Karen?
Who coined the phrase Limousine Liberal? It was a NY local politician named Mario Procaccino. I think he was a Democrat but this was the late Sixties or early Seventies when SOME Dems had sense and hadn't been absorbed into the libtard machine.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

LIMO LIB DISEASE
Those east coast libs, (and other places) who are so condescending to gun owners are kind of funny. One of them in D.C. looked at me in amazement when I was visiting there and telling a story about shooting a chicken snake who was stealing eggs from the coop. "Karen,you mean you're ARMED!" Her eyes got huge and she was truly horrified. Guess who she voted for?

For MikeR
Interesting to hear that you are affiliated with higher ed. My wife and I have both served as adjunct faculty at a local university. What we came to understand was that very few of our academic colleagues would dare admit to harboring a conservative thought in even a social setting. The largest contingent used the lectern as a bully pulpit to promote socialism and intimidate any student who dared exhibit the slightest hint of conservative political thinking. The role that Dr. Adams fills is that of alerting taxpayers to the sad state of higher education. The fact public colleges and universities have degenerated to a point where indoctrination has supplanted scholarship and partially prepared students are graduated on the strength of their leftist leanings, is not yet grasped by the public at large. If the average citizen understood the un-American heterodoxy that reins at their public colleges and universities, they would declare a crisis in higher education and demand a total restructuring of the system.

As far a lack of understanding of modern political history perhaps you would enlighten me as to where the current administration stands in the pantheon of left wing heroes. Left of Clinton, left of Carter, left of old Frank?

My professors are moslty adjuncts!!
And thank God for that!! Instead of tenured Ivory Tower point heads I get professors who actually WORK in the fields they teach and do so as a primary livelihood.

My law profs are all either practicing lawyers or sitting judges. My management prof manages an $86 million retail division but wants to impart what he's learned in the field to the young skulls full of mush and us old farts in continuing education.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Qparker
Yes, I agree. That is what Dr. Adams is addressing. It is my contention that the threat is overblown and as evidence, I offer the fact that Dr. Adams has to consistently exaggerate his reports to hype up the issues. I have offered proof of his exaggerations earlier in the thread and also pointed out where some folks were erroneously taking Adams’s report as the whole truth.

I also agree that many professors are leftwing ideologues, but the majority is no more ideologues than Adams is himself. I base this belief on the fact that I have been active at the U of PA and the U of DE for the past 20 years.

Yes, gun control, which I oppose, has been a plank of the Dem party but has been loosing ground in comparison to other issues. And at this point, I am willing to take Biden at his word since he is a registered gun owner.

Yes, I am a Catholic, but I didn’t vote for Obama. Nothing in any of my posts has ever suggested such except that for some folks like you, failure to agree completely with everything Dr. Adams write means you must be liberal, democrat or gay.

What so few non-Catholics realize is the complexity of the Church. When Pope John Paul II declared the war in Iraq to be wrong and opposed by Catholics, he didn’t say abortion should come first. Also, when the Church speaks of the culture of life, they put universal health care, support for domestic and foreign poor and abortion all on the same level. All that leaves US Catholics in a quandary as to whom they should support.

And yes, I am well aware of 20th century political history; more so than you apparently. And I can assure you that the Democrats are no more a fiefdom to than the republicans are a Theocracy. Both the GOP and the Dems have become more interested in self-serving issue than in serving their constituents. What you fail to grasp is that Dr. Adams doing the same on a small scale, and you are one of the marks.

For MikeR Part II
Continued from last post

In your comments you indicate that you are a Catholic and your religion is important to you. The question I would ask you and the almost 55% of Catholics that voted this administration into power is how do you feel about abortion today. This administration promises to greatly expand abortions, not only in this country but around the world. It has not been in power 90 days and it has launched a full bore effort to pressure Catholic Hospitals and physicians on the abortion issue and has promised generous funding to third world family planning and abortion activities.

Finally, in regards to the “Riff Raff” comment you paint a picture of your self as a traditional rural Democrat. Having grown up on the high plains and lived in the south for over thirty years I understand the perspective. Let me assure you the traditional progressive farm-labor partnership is dead and has been for almost fifty years. Today the Democratic Party is a fiefdom of New York/European investment interests and big city minority political machines. This ain’t 1948 and this guy ain’t Harry Truman; buy a newspaper and move to town.

For MikeR Part I
Dr. Adams is writing about two issues here. One is the leftist fanaticism regarding firearms ownership and the individual’s right to self defense. The second is the social fascism that infects academe. If you doubt the vast majority of college professors are not left wing ideologues who routinely use their positions to proselytize and their power to intimidate, you have not spent much time on campus in the last 20 years.

In regards to the Democratic Party and firearms confiscation, all one has to do is look at the history of gun confiscation in this country. Over the last forty years the disarming of the American people has been the Raison D’être of the Democratic Party. So important that they willingly sacrificed Bill Clinton’s Presidency to further the agenda. If the Democratic Party is finally reconciled to accepting the Second Amendment their recent selections of Joe Biden as Vice President and Eric Holder as Attorney General are very poor choices to communicate the sea change.

Continued on next post…….

shankfisher
Our founding fathers were liberals for the most part while some were borderline radicals. If they hadn’t been then there probably wouldn’t have been a revolution; and had they gone ahead and rebelled, George Washington would have been crowned king. What seems conservative to us, more than 200 years later was actually the culmination of some of the most radical philosophies of the period combined with the desire to accumulate wealth.

But hey, good luck with that survival thing. I’m sure you will get the last laugh when the hordes of gay commie abortionists start rounding us up into gender reassignment camps. My only question is what if Obama really isn’t Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot all rolled into one and is actually the Antichrist? How will mortal weapons protect you from his supernatural powers?

Dr Douglas
I consider rapists to be subhuman. They are not the same as people who are hated because of their race, like the Tutsis, who had done nothing to anybody, or Jewish people, to whom the nazis referred as rats. I would much rather see a rapist shot than a woman raped. I will shed no tears for him. Since nearly all rapists are serial rapists, killing a rapist will usually prevent future rapes.

Doug

It really doesn't matter whether your example was fictional or not. I'm sure my counter example has happened many times too.

You missed my point about the cockroaches. Referring to other people as insects is a particularly digusting form of dehumanization, one that is often related to genocide. The Hutus in Rwanda referred to the Tutsis as cockroaches before attempting to slaughter them. This is type of thinking is quite common on Townhall.

Dr. Adams
Thanks for keeping us informed!

Our universities are havens for Marxist.

Dr Douglas
This is not a fictional case. This is a real woman who used a real gun to prevent a rape. She did not shoot him; she scared him away. It was at Mount Zion Hospital in San Francisco in the early 90s. And you may have a point about referring to a rapist as a cockroach. I apologize to cockroaches for insulting them like that.

Gestell

You overstate the case when you say things such as: "The mere presence of a gun is supposed to influence a person to become a stone killer." People aren't this dumb.

What's odd about this whole discussion is that liberals are not currently concerned about changing gun laws. It was never central to their agenda (regardless of the conservative propaganda), and it looks like they've given up on it as an issue.

Since Adams did not present the professor's side of the story, how can you conclude that "evidently the student posed no threat". This depends on what the student said, how he acted, and how the professor interpreted his behavior. Adams provides none of this critical information, so it's impossible to say.

As I mentioned above, I've seen this kind of thing happen in classrooms and professors are responsible for the safety of their students.


Doug
I don't know whether you are asking the question of me or the other person "Douglas" (WHO IS NOT ME).

I would say though that your fictional case turned out good, although referring to people as cockroaches doesn't really make it.

Obviously, I could make up any number of similar fictional cases in which someone with a gun shot another person who was merely approaching with no intent to harm.

Lefties call us "nazis"
They call US Nazis, but punish for wrong "thought" or even espousing opposing points of view.

Prof from Bizarro World
A professor who would report a student for giving a talk on guns in a communications class must have received her degrees from Bizarro World University. Up here in the People's Democratic Republic of Massachusetts where I've taught for nearly 40 years, I've never heard of anything so idiotic since the faculty member at Brandeis got into trouble for using the word "wetbacks" when discussing stereotypes of Mexican illegals. Evidently the student posed no threat, and I hope he sues the professor and the university.

As a liberal, maybe I can shed some light on weird liberal views about guns (which I do not share). Many academic liberals have never been around guns or people who like and own guns. Guns are often regarded as unnaturally, horribly dangerous--sort of like the way lots of conservatives view gays or feminists. The mere presence of a gun is supposed to influence a person to become a stone killer. Since I grew up in a family that owned guns, and learned to use them as a kid, I draw the occasional suspicious stare when I say that the 2nd Amendment is completely defensible on constitutional grounds. Maybe conservatives should try to introduce sensitivity training to expose liberals to responsible gun owners.


Desert Rat:
Actually I was being facitious. I don't really beleive the gun logic I expressed. My point is that when people say "you can't allow same sex marrage because next people will want to marry children or their goat" that is exactly like saying "you can't allow people to carry guns because next they will want to carry RPGs and chemical weapons."

Dan from WA
You just need to look at things differently, that's all.

Let's apply your gun logic to this --
Who's to say that if we legalize two men marrying each other that it won't lead to a man and an animal next? Or a man and a child next?
Nice logic you've got there.

Constitutional Rights?
The reason liberals hate the Second Amendment is because it is a prima facia counter argument to their Disneyland worldview. Clearly the Founding Fathers _were_ conservatives! I hope the poor college student sues his professor and college. Where is the ACLU? Right . . .

Read my survival and preparedness blog:
http://preparednessnow.blogspot.com/

Dr. Douglas
You are a fraud.

Relative Threat
If a student who keeps guns at home in a locker and publically defends gun ownership is no threat whatsoever, then why is a man marrying another man and being open about his relationship (in the same way that opposite sex married couples are open about their relationships) a threat so great that justifies banning these kind of unions?

Mr. Paine
“I am willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, kill in the defense of myself, my family and the country that I once took an oath to defend against all enemies foreign AND domestic.”

“I am one of the people that the collectivists who now control the government had best leave alone, assuming they wish to continue unfettered oxygen consumption.”

That sir is bombast, posturing, bravado, and otherwise bluster. I make my judgment based entirely on what you have written. I entreat all to do likewise to me. I may be out of my depth in a parking lot puddle, but at least I know my history, which is something you apparently don’t. That in itself is no bid deal. That you use such fairy tail stories to prop up your character is laughable. That you use it to support your argument is pathetic.

Qparker
I don’t see how that can be construed as double speak or how I can make my position any clearer. If you like, I will say simply that owning firearms is guaranteed in the Constitution. That statement is not relative to the debate however. My entire gist on this thread has been that irrational fear is behind incidents such as the one described in the column. I always try and make the impetus of my argument focal on the column instead of some pet pony. As for your 20 years of experience, common sense solutions might not be working for you since the notion of common sense itself seems to be alien to your thinking. How can you argue the effectiveness of common sense when you advocate arming yourself for protection against an imaginary threat?

But hey, congratulations on what you have accomplished over the years. I was boor poor and still am. It seems the Army, farming and Catholic Social Services didn’t pay well and I remember all too well being considered riff raff. And yes, there sure are a lot of “victims” out there. I know of one particular group that includes a college professor who supplements his income by writing about certain victimizations.

And as for folks who “whine incessantly about inequities of this country and the political class of hustlers who promise to steal from me to buy their votes”, they been around since the election of 1796.


Qparker
Ok, then you tell me to whom you are referring in the statements, “Town Hall readers also understand that when the demagogues who have promised the riff raff of the world free everything are unable to perform, they will resort methods never seen before on this continent” and “If history is relevant it would seem that one would not want to be tagged as counterrevolutionary (conservative), accomplished, (property owning/ambitious) or ethnically/religiously different than your supreme leader. Any one care to give up their guns in 21st century America”. Because if they aren’t specific individuals who actually exist and are in power or poised to be in power then you are advocating arming yourself against some imaginary bogeyman. That is why I questioned the effectiveness against a Martian invasion. Both are on equal footing as far as reality.

As for my position:
“it is a travesty (the case)”, “owning firearms is just as common and as safe as owning a hammer and nails”, “millions of Americans own weapons and use them in safe and appropriate ways”
Mar 11, 2009 - 9:06 AM EST

“The professor appears to be a nut,” Mar 11, 2009 - 10:53 AM EST

“A way must be found to end the fear and show that gun ownership is not a danger” Mar 11, 2009 - 12:07 PM EST

MikeR
Paine lived by his principles, as do I. He did not live his life as a competition in a popularity contest, nor do I.

As to bombast, you are entitled to your opinion secured safely behind your keyboard. As to making judgments about people you have never met, you would be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle.

Dr Douglas
Do you have an answer to the question I asked you at 5:06 AM yesterday in reply #28?

Not the same person

As I pointed out before, I am not the same person as Douglas from Oregon. Obviously, that person is doing a parody of me, and not a very good one.

Why can't Adams write?
I don't know why Adams can't write a simple column with enough information for one to make a decision. I guess it's because he wastes so much space slinging slurs at his many enemies.

Just a couple of examples: Adams never presents anything from Professor Anderson's point of view. He's even so dishonest as to put words in her mouth. Nor does Adams point out that two other students were involved. But so what? He manages to smear gays, academics in general, liberals, and the AAUP, so why does the truth even matter?

Adams attempts to smear the AAUP (again), but he doesn't seem to understand the meaning of academic freedom. From the sparse information he provides, this does not look like a violation of academic freedom.

Without more information, there's no way of judging Professor Anderson's actions. I've been in similar situations with truly psychotic students, and sometimes you've got to make a tough call in order to protect the rest of the students.

swampfox
You are correct that 2 other students were involved but from what I can gather it was Wahlberg's mention of his gun ownership that made him the target of Professor Anderson. This is just one more reason to absolutely privatize education at all levels, because our money is being used not as a benefit for society as a whole, but to establish a culture that is contrary to what is right and good, not to mention that the Federal government has not legal authority to be involved in education, except in DC.

Where does it end?
If you allow permits concealed handguns, who's to say that people won't want to take automatic assult rifles, rocket propelled gernades or chemical weapons to school with them?

To Tedmug
I am just asking honest questions. When I googled this event there was a huge amount of support for Walburg. In fact I don't remember seeing one iota of support for the professor. Perhaps you should try to find out the policy of West Point as to personal firearms that are allowed on their campus.

For MikeR

In what post was the current administration directly compared to Stalin. If one draws a connection between socialist murderers abroad and socialist gun grabbers at home they do so via their own processes.

In what post have you made a positive comment concerning the Second Amendment. All I could come up with was some double speak about common sense solutions to make our fellow Americans feel comfortable with the rights guaranteed us by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Experience of the last 20 years indicates that anyone who employs “common sense solution” in dealing with Second Amendment issues is no friend of gun owners.

In regards to ‘Riff Raff” let me clarify my position. I am old man who spent his youth serving this country in ways the well heeled and privileged were above and the underclass was unsuited. In the following years I have built two businesses, carved out a reasonably comfortable spot for my family with no set asides, preferences, or quotas. I have paid a boat load of taxes and served my community on many municipal and volunteer boards. What I take exception too, and willingly call Riff Raff, are the professional victims who whine incessantly about inequities of this country and the political class of hustlers who promise to steal from me to buy their votes.

Damn lying liberals.
My girlfriend, bless her heart, has been hanging around liberals far too much. She's a lovely lady, but so misinformed. I'm doing what I can to help her see the truth. My NRA yearly membership package showed up in the mail yesterday, and she got all in a tizzy. Told me Charleton Heston said, in an interview, when asked about a little black girl that was killed accidentally, "I don't give a damn." I have challenged her to find me a quote from Mr. Heston that even resembled that. I told her that if she can prove to me that he did, I will quit the NRA. No, she hasn't found it. But this is the kind of crap that liberal minds are filled with.

swampfox
Oh, I am sure that there must be some incrimination of Mr. Wahlberg somewhere if you just keep holding out for it. Oh, there just has to be because this lecturer just could not be guilty of liberally slanted faculty misconduct. That just never happens in the USA.

THE TRUTH BE TOLD

Those who favor gun control and the disarming of the citizens of the United States actually prefer to be perceived as armed. Were this not the case, they would post signs in front of their homes that read:
ATTENTION ALL BURGLARS, THIEVES, RAPISTS, HOME INVADERS, KIDNAPPERS, PSYCHO KILLERS, AND ALL OTHER CRIMINALS! THERE ARE NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE!

They would have similar bumper stickers on their cars that read
ATTENTION CARJACKERS! ALL OCCUPANTS OF THIS VEHICLE ARE UNARMED!

They would also wear baseball caps with
UNARMED
on them.
But those against the right to bear arms do not do these things. Because they make no effort to let everyone, including criminals, know that they are unarmed, they choose to be perceived as armed.
Go figure!

To Lenard
If all this happened in the manner that you and Adams have described, I would totally agree with you. Perhaps we should hear from the professor and her side of the story. I have Googled this and found out that two other students were involved with Walburg's presentation. I would like to know why the other two students weren't turned into the campus police by the professor?

phd in what?
Another example of liberal fascism.
The school will do absolutely nothing to the professor.
I believe the student needs to sue the professor for damages.
If he happened to be a muslim and she did that(which would have been politically incorrect and insensitive)would she have even thought of calling the police?
The age in which we live is getting crazier by the day. Keep your power dry,folks.

Qparker
Did you gather all that from me writing “I also agree with your comment on socialist /Marxist communal political philosophies” or simply because I don’t agree with everything you write?

Let me make it clear, communism in any form is a flawed sytem of government that can’t work and is highly susceptible to absolute dictatorship. Only a great fool would think otherwise. I am also opposed to any system in which individual rights are replaced with collectivism.

I have never commented or even inferred anything positive about the EU system. How you came to that conclusion is as logical as if you inferred that I like swiss cheese to cheddar.

Throughout this thread I have commented in favor of gun ownership for self defense, sport or even the joy of collecting. However, I have taken issue with the doomsayers who preach apocalypse. In your case, it was comparing our current administration with that of Stalin. Furthermore, I dislike when people use erroneous histories to support their position.

Some of that riff raff you write of are our fellow citizens. To think otherwise is elitism. Our current president, however his many flaw is no more a demagogue than the last preside or Reagan was. I didn’t agree when liberals said it then and I don’t agree with it coming from conservatives now.

swampfox
You either miss the point or avoid it. The student was in a communications class making a presentation based on logic. He was merely presenting his reasoning on a subject that concerns us all. Was he sending threatening e-mails to this professor? No. Was he even carrying a weapon on his person? No. Yet this professor who is opposed to his thinking sicced the campus police on him merely for holding to a thought is part of the foundation of this republic. Who really shows a mental instability here? And how is it that a professor is allowed to use her position to intimidate a student? It is this kind of censorship that so concerned the ratifiers that without attending to and acknowledging the two most important rights of speech and protection in the bill of rights, the Constitution would never have been enacted.

From "Miss Congeniality":
"He has a gun? So what?! This is TEXAS!! My hair dresser carries a gun!" -Candace Bergen


-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!


Thank you, Mike Adams;
For an excellent article on what this country is coming to.

I, for one, place the blame most squarely on our Liberal Activists for the DOING -

-and then the rest of us for sitting on our asses.

ModMark #36:
It's a good thing the news doesn't find it sensational enough to report ALL types of accidental deaths to children:
ANY that involved a firearm at all would be hard to find, since any single other cause outnumbers it.

Lilly
Guns guns guns ahhhhhhhhhhhhh everyone has guns!

Gunphobe!

lilly
You made a statement at 11:02 that people on the "Right" ALWAYS talk about how angry and resentful they are. Am I now supposed to take you seriously when you resort to such hyperbole. Rather it makes me wonder about your intellectual capacity as you fail to make a reasoned argument, but resort to broadly categorizing those who do not hold to your views.
You also fail to address the Constitution's RECOGNITION of an "unalienable" right. This right is really an aspect of a greater right, which is the right to protect oneself and others from harm. I have to wonder here whether you lack the character to analyze this logically, or the ability, in other words is this willful or have you not developed yourself to this point.
There will always be those who seek the harm of others, and if there is no buffer, no one to guard against them, then these people will have their way. Yet you turn this around and point to the one doing harm as an illustration of why not to provide for our protection. Perhaps you avoid the real issue of there are being those who commit evil, because you do not want have to involve yourself in the higher argument of the nature of man and whether there is such a thing as good or evil because to involve yourself in this you have to address the "GOD" issue. I suggest to you that unless you can stand on a foundation of absolute right or wrong you have no business attempting to bring forth values for which you cannot substantiate as that which is best for man.

For MkeR

From your posts I take it your assertion is communism was a great concept that had poor execution (pardon the pun). Stalin, while not a well educated man considered himself an intellectual, (apparently a common trait among leftists), who wrote extensively on his interpretation of Marxism. Stalinism was Soviet Communism; Lenin’s slightly less murderous vision was a bigger failure and would not have survived the 1940’s.

I also infer from your comments that a little European trade union socialism is just the ticket for United States. A Kumbaya Socialist Workers Paradise with speech codes, 35 hour work weeks, state paid spa visits, and a one to one police to citizenry ratio. Let me assure you the free loading Europeans have managed to maintain their little utopian slices of heaven on the backs of American consumers and servicemen. Without US export markets and military protection the standard of living in Western Europe would have been as dismal as that of Poland. Anyone who has been in Britain in the last six months will tell you the nation is headed back to circumstances resembling the 1970’s, 20% unemployment and widespread unrest. If international finance does not recover in the next five years Britons may yet see Enoch Powell’s prophecies come to pass.

Most Town Hall readers will chose to retain their means of self defense because life experience tells them that even European socialism will fail in the US. The economic basket simply does not contain enough to service the unending wants of those who choose not to compete. Town Hall readers also understand that when the demagogues who have promised the riff raff of the world free everything are unable to perform, they will resort methods never seen before on this continent.

Denise
I'm always leery of "dark side" web sites. Wiki leaks might be trying to hack you even as you look. If one has Linux that is a preferable platform to Windows for poking around on such sites.

Itzyditzy
I wish there was a "Flag as Deliberately Misleading" option because if there were, I would use it for your reference. Different student, different university. It does not apply here.

John Wahlberg should challenge his ditzy prof to take the psych screen too and publish the results. John would doubtless beat her out all hollow for sanity. Very few people who have legally purchased private guns are anywhere close to crazy, and most are almost unnervingly level headed.


sick of this
I say just shoot the cops when they show up to question my right to own a gun. I think that's justifiable. In fact it is apparently necessary to keep our freedom. Alright I wouldn't actually shoot them, but they would deserve it.

Very Important - Computers Hacked

Very Important - Computers Hacked

If you have made any political donations to Conservative or Republican candidates or political organizations, please be advised that there is a whole lot of hacking going on. I just got off the phone with a reporter from a Minneapolis newspaper, who interviewed me in connection with a donation that my company made to the Coleman campaign. wikileaks.org has a database online with all the information of the donors, i.e., names, addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, credit card numbers, etc.

Please check the database and CANCEL YOUR CREDIT CARD, NOW!!!

The tenacles of the Anti-Prop 8 LibNazis are a'spreading.

Please pass this along and post in EVERYWHERE.

Thanks, denise

lilly
Do you have an answer to the question I asked Dr. Douglas in my 5:06 AM post?

There is a conservative academic freedom
advocate called FIRE. http://www.thefire.org

No it has nothing to do with guns, its name stands for Freedom of Individual Rights in Education.

They might be able to assist the student in this story. That would be a headline: NRA and FIRE Help Shoot Down Illegal Harassment of Student

Kerry
Yeah the open carry law is probably a pain in the @ss for police. Obviously covering it up does eliminate the "panic" among the public so I would say good for them for not going all out legalistic on you and allowing you to keep it covered. As n said earlier, they should investigate any complaint and be able to simply move on without all the red tape BS when they find no wrong doing.

Good story.

Trigger Angry
Jo:(#108) If memory serves, didn't Florida's violent crime rate (murders, armed robberies armed assaults, etc) DROP 28%, across the board, in the first 5 years of laxer gun possesion laws?
Lilly: Yes, there are nut-jobs with guns in our society. BUT, 2.5 MILLION crimes are STOPPED, every year, by armed citizens.
Don:(#120) You forgot the fact that we sheepdogs are often vilified by the very sheep we protect, as being too violent.
Mod Mark:(#134) I think reckless endangerment or child neglect would be applicable charges.
Swampy:(#137) Unlikely, but possible. But what if another Va Tech student had (legally) shot that same nut-case dead, after his FIRST victim??? (thus saving all his subsequent victims) An armed woman did exactly that, in a church, within a year of the Va Tech tragedy!

recce1
It’s a shame you know nothing about the facts of the case. You provide a great example of people who believe that Dr. Adams is telling them the whole truth. I especially like how you know her motives and character.

n, are you out there?

Mr. Paine
You should visit Dr. Adams’ site and read his required list of books. It might help you to disperse the fairy tale perspective you have on history. You might even learn what those great folks did to the real Mr. Paine when they were through with him. Beyond that, I hate for you to find out what our Founding Fathers did to that 3% after the war was over. Good luck with your bombast. I love a good fist shaking.

Qparker
I’m sure there were too, but that has absolutely no barring on your Stalin comparison. I also agree with your comment on socialist /Marxist communal political philosophies, but that has very little to do with comparisons to Stalin. The same could be said about any type of dictatorship or powerful monarchy. I’ve been hearing about the slippery slope for more than 50 years now with doom always around the corner. I’ve read about that slippery slope in journals and direct correspondence from Bacon’s Rebellion. In that sense, we started to slide before we were even a nation. As for preparation, go ahead, but if you are referring to the “close advisor” I think you are, although I don’t approve of what he advocated 40 years ago, he is no longer wanted and has been cleared of the charges.

Rick from TX equates a presumption of guilt with liberals. You’re not a liberal are you? It seems though that you are willing to act as Prof. Anderson has and assume that association with one thing must be connected with something dangerous. Of course, if you were a Christian then you would know all about redemption and probably think it quite possible for an individual to make such a transition.

False reporting
The professor should be prosecuted for filing a false report. Her motivation was soley to harass a student for daring to hold an opinion that differed from her socialist state controlling authoritarian attitude. But since both the local government and the university probably agree with her, the civil rights of the student will be thrown under the bus. I'll bet he gets a poor grade from her and other politically correct professors. He needs a good junk yard dog lawyer.

Write/call Anderson here:
Anderson, Paula
Phone Number: 8322690
Job Title: Lecturer
Department: Communication
Location: R C Vance Acad Ctr 317
Email: andersonpau@ccsu.edu

It's about time these dingbats are held to answer for their actions. Every article pointing out the outrageous by congressmen, local officials, and so-called professors ought to contain a way to reach them.

Presumption of guilt ?
Notice how Bleeding Heart Liberal has a presumption of the GUILT of the accosted.

Trigger Happy
Western,
I had an instance of this very nature happen a couple of years ago. I was mowing the lawns of my elderly neighbor, in a rural area of southern Michigan. She has a problem with moles and groud hogs. She had given me specific permission to shoot any I saw. (She's even phoned me up, to come over and shoot them!) I had a semi-automatic pistol being openly carried on my belt. A state police cruiser pulled into the drive, near when I was mowing, and motioned me over. He asked me about the pistol I was wearing. I explained who I was, what I was doing and the fact I had the landowners permission to be carrying a sidearm. He explained that they had received a complaint about me having a gun. He then told me to COVER IT UP WITH MY SHIRT, so it was no longer visable! I pointed out that I did NOT presently have a concealed carry permit. He explained that he would allow me to have it out of sight, to satisfy the complaintant's objections. It stayed out of sight the rest of the day and the trooper never came back. Ain't that a HOOT?

Douglas...
Sorry to re-enter this late (see #6 reply, above) but Douglas' reply #7 pretty well proves my point about the left's inability to engage in debate, preferring character assassination and elitist nose-sniffing.
By the way, professor emeritus, it's middle school, not high school, and "scolding" is precisely what my more recalcitrant students get when they deserve it. That way they know that they have fallen short of our expectations...something professors emeritus typically do only when their students refuse to acquiesce to their (the professors') leftist world-view. My job is to see that students are prepared to state an opinion and defend it with empirical data, not meekly surrender to the latest liberal cause du jour.

Here is some gun control
During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King's tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. That 3% created what was once the greatest nation on earth. Over time sloth, laziness, greed, stupidity, “political correctness”, indolence and an “entitlement” mentality has contributed to the corruption of that great nation into the semi-socialist cesspool it has become today. Three Per centers today represent at least 3% of American gun owners who will not disarm, will not compromise and will not back up at the passage of the next gun control act. I am a three per center. I will not obey any circumscription of my unalienable liberties and will defend myself if attacked. I retain my natural rights to liberty and property, most especially the right to keep and bear arms. I am committed to the restoration of the Founders' Republic, and I am willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, kill in the defense of myself, my family and the country that I once took an oath to defend against all enemies foreign AND domestic.

I am one of the people that the collectivists who now control the government had best leave alone, assuming they wish to continue unfettered oxygen consumption.

For MikeR
I am sure there were Jews in Germany and Austria who felt that National Socialism was a transitory phenomenon that would gain no traction in what had been the least anti-Semitic countries in Europe. The problem with socialist/Marxist communal political philosophies is they devalue the individual and exalt the supreme power of the state. Once you begin to appropriate people’s property and freedoms the slope becomes very slippery towards more extreme outcomes. As far as such a perspective being fanciful we have to accept that nothing is beyond the realm of possibility. For example, I for one never believed I would see an individual make the transition from the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list, to that of close advisor of the President of United States.

swampfox
Thanks...but no thanks.

Gay conspiracy?
Wrat Wrangler writes, "The eminent carpet chewer from Australia, Rebecca Peters has already said on TV that she wants to ban ANYTHING that can shoot past 100 yards." So this is all part of a great gay conspiracy? You ought to know better than that Wrat!

e-mail
andersonpau@ccsu.edu

Mod Mark
Private permitting could pose a liability problem. Trial Lawyers are already foaming along with insurance companies. Plus the States will still want their registrations and fingerprinting for their "data base" so even private permitting, the govt will still have their nose in deep.

Qparker
History is relevant but only in an accurate context. Stalin, for example did as you claim. However, you left out the part that he never cared about communism or anybody other than himself. He was a violent criminal as a child and an accomplished murderer before he turned 18. His criminal activities circled around the use of violence to increase his power and wealth.

It’s strange that I’m called a kook because I show where Dr. Adams exaggerates his stories and how it affects his readers, but doomsayers are deferred to as if they were prophets.

Yes, if I were you, I certainly wouldn’t want to give up my guns; but are you sure you will be affective against the Martians when they invade?

The Perfesser
Should be stripped of her citizenship and expelled to Koobah. What a bravo-india-tango-charlie-hotel Nazi.

Hamline University - Troy Scheffler
Whatever happened to Troy Scheffler, the Hamline University grad student who was expelled for emails advocating concealed weapons permits on campus? Dr. Adams said, "The student was re-admitted but only after taking a psychological evaluation." But was that the end of it?

Google found some news articles (e.g., WSJ), many blog posts, and some press releases from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education - FIRE. The most recent FIRE press release was dated Oct. 10, 2007. What's happened in that case in the last year and a half???

Look at the Tokugawa Shogunate!!!
After about 1600 that Shogun (the model for Toranaga) decreed that swords would be illegal except for Samurai. The LAST thing he wanted was an armed populace rising up.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

It's NOT just handguns!!!
Own a .30-30 lever gun? Weatherby Mark V with a scope? Your Dad's old .30-06 with a scope? ANY effective deer, antelope, sheep, elk or moose rifle?

Guess what kiddies? They are already trying to use the ignorant gun-hatin media to claim that you own a "sniper rifle"!! ANY rifle effective past 100 yards will now be a target for the banners.

Hell! My flinlock with a patched round ball can kill a deer past 100 yards it it holds still and the wind is mild. My 1874 Sharps in is quite capabled of knocking off a human at 1,538 yards. That's how far away Quanah Parker's brave was when Billy Dixon shot him out of his saddle with a Sharps.

The eminent carpet chewer from Australia, Rebecca Peters has already said on TV that she wants to ban ANYTHING that can shoot past 100 yards.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Granite Eagle
The current trends according to my conceal carry instructor, is that meth heads are targeting gun owners and specifically police officers. They follow them home precicely becasuse they know they have a gun. Break in when they are on duty to look for their added weapons.

Guns are an easy black market sale for cash in order to buy meth. Meth messes people up. They do stupid things which in this case is targeting gun owners to steal their gun.

The instructor informed us that it isnt wise to have a gun supporting bumpersticker on our vehicle because the criminal just may follow you home in order to steal your gun when you arent home.

Over reaction?
I am for people to have concealed weapons and to exercise their second amendment rights. However, I can also understand when some people over react. The murders at Virginia Tech were upsetting to us all. What would have happened if this student did subsequently go on a rampage. Could you imagine the liability of the college?

A docile citizenry
Laws and edicts controlling the possession of weapons is an age old tactic of governments used to maintain control of the populace. An unarmed populace is a more easily subjugated populace. The Founding Fathers knew this and established the Second Amendment in response. It worries me that so many in our government seek to confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens.

What is the problem with these people?
If guns kill people, then:
1)Pencils misspell words
2)Cars make people drive drunk
3)Spoons make Rosie O’Donnell fat

And what about the Supreme Court's decision in the recent Hller case which CLEARLY says what the Second Amendment says: firearms ownership is an individual RIGHT and the government can not infringe on it?

And since university professors obviously do not believe or support the Second Amendment, it is also obvious that they don't believe in the First Admendment either.

It's enough to make one wonder if they believe in ANY of the articles in the Bill of Rights or in the U S Constitution. And people, this professor is TYPICAL of those teaching your children in the government run public school system and in the entire college-university system.

If you are one paying for a student to attend a college or university, you may want to reconsider it and have that student READ the classics which are available for the asking at the local public library. The student will come away far more educated than if he/she came out with a degree from any college-university and you will have ten's of thousands of dollars in your pocket that you wouldn't have otherwise. Both you and the student will be better off.

Tadpole
That's the "Man Bites Dog" effect. News outlets don't report things that happen all the time. The more frequently it is reported in the news, the less common it really is. Dogs bite people all the time, but it isn't newsworthy, but when a man bites a dog, you get a lot of attention.

If shootings, corporate scandals and any of the other horrible things you see on television were common, you wouldn't see them on television.

Case in point. No one in the media has made any effort to talk about the 4,000 kidnappings in the Phenix area last year but when Casey Anthony vanished, it made headlines. Kidnapping - rare in Florida, common in Arizona, therefore, we hear about it in Florida.

The day you need to worry is when the news stops reporting about shootings. That means it's happening all the time.

Liberal "gun control"
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” -John Adams

I believe John Adams when he said this. I also believe that this is why freedoms are under attack in this country.

Mod Mark
Apologies, I didn't notice the open vs concealed aspect of the argument. Open, well, I'm not sure how to handle this one. Citizens are allowed open carry in Alaska I believe and it isn't exactly a major problem. Switzerland doesn't have issues with their citizen-soldiers draping their M-16s over their shoulders on the way home from the range either.

As stated though, the criminal element is mostly an opportunistic group. They'll not engage in anything that is remotely dangerous and generally operate on whim. No planning, motive based on an easy score and general inability to risk life and limb for a few bucks. This is not a class that will actively engage in a fight but will more likely run and avoid conflict. Open carry does contain that risk of it being taken in a struggle, but few criminals will attempt that, the risk of them getting shot is too high. If it were true, we'd have our anti-gun media pointing out how many police officers get their issued sidearm taken and used against them (one of the arguments behind disarming UK police). This just doesn't happen.

Also, someone interested in self-defense carries a good knife and makes sure to hit the gym on a regular basis. As they say, "If you're in a fair fight, you didn't prepare enough."

However, you can never prepare for everything. If you get a knife on you at close range, the best you can do is remain calm. There are crazies in the world and there is nothing we can do to keep the tools of violence out of their hands. All we can do is be prepared to handle them if it is necessary and calling the authorities is not one of those valuable tools. They simply take too long to get there.

Grand Champion State Murderer

While the left has spent the last sixty years focusing on the evil of the National Socialists the reality is that compared to Stalin, Hitler was less accomplished. Stalin most likely killed thirty million of his own countrymen to bring about change they could believe in. The real numbers are hard to estimate because the left wing murder machine was so efficient in killing the killers, and eradicating any vestige of a paper trail. While all segments of Soviet society suffered, the burden fell disproportionately on what could be considered a class less society’s, middle class. Small farmers, technicians, military officers, and religious people died at greater rates than any other elements of society. Additionally, ethnicity was a variable that loaded against the victims. Ukrainians and Russians died at greater rates because of Stalin’s hatred of them. If history is relevant it would seem that one would not want to be tagged as counterrevolutionary (conservative), accomplished, (property owning/ambitious) or ethnically/religiously different than your supreme leader. Any one care to give up their guns in 21st century America?

Is it just me?
Or are there more news reports about shootings all of the sudden?

I don't watch a lot of news, but it seems that everyday the networks and cable news folks are repeating over and over stories about shootings.

I'm wondering if the word is out that in order to garner public support for gun control laws the liberal media is over-reporting as many shootings as possible...

Bleeding heart
Once again your bufoonary shines through. When will you learn, speech is NOT a crime! what this whack job prof did was akin to calling the police because you witnessed someone driving at the speed limit down the road. They will show up but its purely a waste of their time and indicative of a warped mind to call in the first place.

n & foreverright
This comes back to my original point on the thread. The folks like the professor and lilly might actually be just afraid of mass gun violence like the shootings mentioned. Fear causes un-rational thinking. A way must be found to end the fear and show that gun ownership is not a danger.

It's happening in grade school, too
My son is a good kid, in the 3rd grade in a high-performing elementary school in Phoenix. About three weeks ago, as they were in the hall coming in from recess, one of his classmates came up behind him and poked his finger in his back and said, "Stick 'em up!"

Nate, my boy, turned around and pointed his index finger at his classmate and said, "Bang!"

His teacher saw the whole thing, and gave my son detention for pretending that his finger was a gun, and actually discharging his make-believe weapon on school grounds.

REMEMBER: Guns don't kill people ... FINGERS kill people. Or something.

Mod Mark
"that little grandma pulling out of Colt would scare the cr*p out of me!"
---------------
Recent news story about a grandma (in her late 70 's? I think) in Laporte IN area (SouthBend)
that heard a noise on her porch. She got her pistol out and headed to her kitchen to confront an intruder. Young male, tall and intimidating. She ordered him face down on floor. He obeyed. She dialed 911. Police showed up and the poor guy is laying there. Not sure if the stories are true that he wet himself. 911 recording revealed that she kept repeating that she didnt want to shoot him, but will. She said that she learned to use a gun because crime was going up and she feared exactly the situation she was faced with.

Part 2-Dr Adams thanks for the initiativ
My bad. Oops, hit the wrong button,-I was starting to feel adequately protected in the probable uprising which will accompany the tax revolt. I also think that Bambi will try to take our guns. Good luck Bambi. I feel that a few more weapons are in order to protect myself from my government. I have never felt that until now but it is comfort that most of my friends feel the same way. I guess that is because I try not to associate with dumocrats. God help America.

A good lie is a partial lie
Obviously the poor individual, John Wahlberg, said nothing that would upset the professor or cause anyone to think he might be a danger. And the police, being fellow travelers and dupes of the communists, just deprived him of his constitutional rights on the say so of this commie pinko libturd. Yess,uh huh.

Where's my tin foil hat to thwart the commie government from reading my thoughts.


Dr. Adams-Thanks for the incentive!
Having only a few (4 pistols,2 rifles and 2 shotguns) I was starting to feel adequately protected in the probsble civil uprising which

We need more sheep dogs...
"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident."

... "Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy."

... "Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf."...

Sheep dogs are armed with teeth but will only use them to protect the sheep.

Most liberals are sheep. Sheep are the stupidest of the domestic animals or as communist sympathizers were once called, useful idiots.


Gun Control Laws.....
Are obeyed by law abiding citizens.

Criminals are not law abiding citizens. There is no reason for giving up guns for them.

Possibly.....Possibly the first line in gun control would be to CONTROL OUR OWN BORDERS!!!! through which arms continually pass.
Can we get the controlling legislature to take the interest of the country first for once???? Instead of catering to those who only provide votes and donations.

Sheriff Barts Myopic view only progresses so far as the inner city projects.......as does that waste of skin AG Holder.

Simple logic Test for liberals.......
You are a criminal...hooked on meth...looking for money for your next score...
looking to rob a house........

Would you:
A. Break into a house that you know has no guns in it????
B. Break into a house that you do not know whether or not the owner owns a gun and keeps it loaded in the drawer in the nightstand next to his / her bed.

Once Criminals know that their victims are not armed, there is no defense........

Given the number of illegal immigrants in this country, and the lack of political will by the softies to enforce any type of border protection.......a gun is almost a necessity.

PS...one benefit from sheriff barts election the sales of guns and gun safes are through the roof!!!!!!

malicious prosecution/harrassment
Is there no way to end these bullying tactics by responding in kind? What happened to criminal charges like malicious prosecution, filing a false or misleading police report for purposes of harassment? And, what about Federal criminal prosecutions for civil rights violations as they did to prevent intimidation of voters and organizers?
Filing civil suits is fine, but without the equal threat of being bum rushed to the police station they will not "get the point" and continue to hide behind their taxpayer funded legal departments and insurance policies. They must be made to Feel The Pain & Humiliation that they inflict on others with impunity.
mike

MikeR
Who is faulting the police? No one. My prob is with the nutty prof who believes its proper to call the police because of what someone said. She should be hospitalized.

So we agree people trying to overturn prop 8 are guilty of treason.

Ordinary Citizen with a Gun
Poster lilly makes the typical liberal argument in favor of gun control - carefully culled stories from the media about random gun violence which, in the liberal mind, instantly justifies the confiscation of all legal weapons from our citizenry. What is ignored or denied is the fact, yes fact, that crime shows a marked decrease in jurisdictions that allow concealed weapons and that gun control merely hampers responsible individuals. Criminals are still free to get any weapon they want and use it in any way they wish.

Jo
I always enjoy a history lesson. Please tell me how you came the conclusion that during WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were armed? I always thought it was because invasion was logistically and tactically impossible.

Jo
Comparing Democrats to Hitler is ridiculous.

Did Hitler favor socialized medicine? Expanding the welfare state? Massive government intervention in the economy? Considering race when hiring? Expanding the power of the central government? Experimenting on human beings? Show contempt for Israelis?

Oh wait...

Completely irrational anti-gun nuts
Another great article, Mike. Thanks. I have witnessed anti-gun looonacy myself. About 10 years ago, I met a very liberal-dem. teachers asst. who constantly tried to sway me toward the dem. party while I shot all her arguments down. In a series of attempts to buy my heart, she offered to give me a 22. cal. revolver she had inherited as part of her grandad`s estate; even though she admitted it was not safe for a woman to live alone out in the country with no close neighbors. She was more afraid of having a gun in the house than she was of being attacked and defenseless. All my offers of training in safe gun use and storage fell on deaf ears; NO, she was too afraid of guns! I was dumbfounded! So, I just asked her straight out,"do you think this gun is just looking for a chance to jump up and shoot someone?" She sheepishly hung her head and nodded, yes.

Gun History 2
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Australia.....NOW

It has now been over a year since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to
surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a
program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:

List of 7 items:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.

Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals
still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery
with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals
now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY.

Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society
of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history
lesson.

With guns, we are'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most
Americans were ARMED!



n
No, it doesn’t. The professor appears to be a nut, but she made a report to the police. As WB said, the police have to act in good faith. They didn’t break his door down, come to his job or pick him up off the street. They called on the phone and told him to come to the station. They did a brief interview and along with the university, decided that the charges were without merit and that no further action was required. That is not frightening. That is the system.

As for those folks in CA, they are not offering armed insurrection in an attempt to over-throw the government as texpatriot suggests, but they are employing violence and intimidation to override the vote and are therefore involved in something almost as bad as treason. As I posted before and will say again, the courts ruled on the constitution of the state. The people amended the constitution and nullified the court’s decision. All further disturbances are wrong. Furthermore, all leaders of the movement who don’t publicly disapprove of these illegal actions are just as guilty through complicity.

Gun History 1
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


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1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews
and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political
dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan
Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated'
people, unable to defend them selves, were rounded up and exterminated.


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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun
control: 56 million.


Democrats sound more like Hitler
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."

- Adolf Hitler

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Could be a quote by BO.

MikeR
You wrote: "we have traitors like texpatriot who want to overrule the ballot box with the gun." How is that different then what they are doing in CA over prop 8? The electorate made their decision and others want it overturned. They are traitors as well correct?

Mike R
Wanna hear something "straight up"? Were the police called out by a nutty prof over a person who had done absolutely nothing wrong?! A fellow citizen of yours was questioned by the local constabulary for no other reason then she didnt like what he said. It scares me that this doesnt scare you!

Rocketeer
See my first post on this thread regarding the difference between Douglas OR and DR Douglas OR.

ModMark: Mutually Assured Destruction
An armed society is a polite society. “Mutually Assured Destruction” (MAD) as a philosophy of deterrence works at the tactical as well as the strategic level. In the case of “concealed carry” permits, an urban predator is less likely to exact his own measure of social justice on the person of a seemly defenseless old woman if he doesn’t know whether or not she is armed- the prospect of a gaping chest wound has a strange way of clarifying your average thug’s perceptions.

FOLKS
we need to stop responding to doug or dr doug since doing so makes him, them think what he, they is saying is worthy of consideration. And its obvious thats not the case

truetolife
You and ARL may be confusing the terms minority and majority. The majority finds its voice in the electorate and the minority finds its voice in the courts. In our system, both are supposed to be represented. Otherwise, we have traitors like texpatriot who want to overrule the ballot box with the gun.

Justin/Jo--relax on Mark.
Mark was discussing Open Carry vs Concealed Carry and making the point that open carry actually reveals to criminals who is carring a weapon where concealed leaves them guessing.

He was supporting concealment, go read some of my earlier comments for reference.




Trigger Angry
I find it astounding that a student can be questioned by the police for giving a speech! Is this America or Communist China? Has the 1st Amendment been abolished? We ALL need to wake up to the threats to our Constitutional freedoms that dangerous idiots such as Prof. Anderson and "Dr. Douglas". I do hope those two do not own firearms!

Rudolf: OK
“TH is a hate site or proto-fascist site, ironically a lot of the posters here like to talk about the evil of Hitler, yet a lot of their own opinions would have fitted in with his right away.”

OK. I am always dismayed by the intellectual dishonesty of the Left when a political dialogue inevitably degrades to the point where the Left employs the “Nazi” canard WRT invalidating the statements of persons with whom they disagree- primarily to compensate for an overtly shallow intellect. Reality: the Nazi's, just like Communists, were just socialists of another variety, and the only difference between the DNC and the aforementioned Nazis is the fact that the senior DNC leadership consists of Socialists of an International variety- iNAZIs if you will.

Just a “non sequitur”- but I would venture to say that I paid more in income taxes this year than you will ever legitimately earn in the foreseeable future. Kindly leave the erudite debates for the adults in charge. Now run along now…go back to DU & DK.

Gratuitous assertions reveal a pedestrian thought process- given your handle I can only assume that you place yourself in the same “elite” group of “bleeding edge” intellectualism. MENSA must count its blessings having you on its esteemed rolls…


MikeR
Which parts are different?

n
Want to hear something really “kooky”? Dr. Adams says, “As a result, John was hauled down to the station and interrogated” and “The 23-year old Wahlberg was greeted by campus police officers who read off a list of all his registered firearms” and “they apparently were not aware that he lives off campus”.

None of those statements concur completely with what fox news or Wahlberg reported. Also this story happened last October. Far be it from me to suggest that Dr. Adams exaggerates, embroiders or otherwise stretches the truth (aka lies) in his stories; or that his doing so has a profound effect on some of his readers. And since this never happens the question as to why is moot.

Mod Mark
Hello Mark.

Yes all points you make are valid.

Personally I prefer concealed because I wouldn't want the added attention. I think as a moderate, you would appreciate a good balance of concealed and open carrry just to throw off the criminals.

One other thing though to consider is that generally speaking, criminals are chickensh*t so any sight of an open carry would more than likely cause them to consider other options. First and foremost they don't want to get shot, period.

I think I remember you supporting gun rights before but thanks for clarification here.


Why
Why do the many have to be punished for the few? Some of you point out the bad behavior of a few as justification for making law abiding citizens jump through hoops to exercise their rights. That idiot prof should be brought to the psych lab at her college for shock therapy for something.

Mod mark - NY
Fl has very liberal gun laws. If you visit Florida chances are you are surrounded by people carrying weapons concealed. And you'd never know it. I even have a Pastor friend that carries.

Concealing the weapon makes it impossible for the criminal to know if you have a weapon or not. This alone reduces crime. Plus if you are in a crowded public area, a criminal will think twice before attacking - since they don't know how many others are armed around them.

I don't know one person in my town that doesn't have a weapon and we have had no wild west shootings, as predicted by the left. Florida has proven, the more concealed gun permits - the less gun violence.

Mod Mark
The argument against carrying is amazingly weak. It would be exactly the same as saying you shouldn't have armed police officers undercover in a concert because criminals would just identify them first and take them out. By that logic, we're all just big targets out in the world and no level of police presence and no law will ever be able to save us, so we might as well just let thugs walk all over society.

Sorry, but that's not just stupid, it's false. Armed citizens carrying concealed, for one, are not identifyable. That's what concealed means, you can't tell its there. I look like your average computer nerd but also carry a firearm. Tell me what criminal will be able to figure that out.

Criminals, particularly the violent ones, are not smart people. They're not able to identify weapons, they rarely even plan out a robbery. It's all spur of the moment. The kind of individual that could pull off what you suggest, identify all the concealed carriers in a room, would require weeks of planning, figuring out who regularly patrons the location, when they do and then perform lengthy research on the individuals. This would require stakeouts at homes to see if they own firearms (most guns are not registered) and trying to figure out who has a concealed license (impossible in Vermont or Alaska). No one would go through that effort for $200 at 7-11. That kind of effort is left for stuff you see on television.

Also, to pull it off, you'd need a skilled criminal. Most criminals lack the firearms ability of your average CHL holder (police have less ability, too, by the way) and would not be able to handle a room of them, let alone if there was more than one.

Doug, re: your post #30
From the facts you stated it is clear that the nurse in question should not only have been fired for pulling the gun on the gentleman in question, but she should clearly have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

After all, from what you say she committed a crime and a civil(Constitutional?)rights violation here.

1. The crime: She defended herself from a potential attacker.

2. By doing so, she violated the mans Civil/Constitutional right to rape and/or murder her.

The Dubious Dr. Douglas
Re Post #5 - "I flagged yours as offensive, too. I can be a mindless syncophant just like the next neocon." and Post #7 - "Sir, there is a reason why I am a Professor Emeritus and Adams is only an Associate Professor." I would just like to ask the esteemed Professor Emeritus if he has mastered basic spell-checking yet? Syncophant is correctly spelled sycophant. I'm guessing that your superior intellect must have been overwhelmed by the pressure of typing.

AynRandLives
stated: One day the majority will find their voices and refuse to be tyrannized by the vocal minority.

But when? Soon I hope. Especially as regards abortion and killing the most defenseless and innocent of all...

Eagle eye
Fair enough. Again, I think blaming the cops though doesn't help. Go after those making the false complaints.

Appalling
This is an appalling abuse of power, not to mention invasion of privacy! There is absolutely no justification of the actions taken by this school. A prime example of how the liberals try to stifle an opposing view.

Obama Past History on Guns

While serving as director of the Joyce Foundation board (1994-2001),

Obama gives millions of dollars to gun control organizations like the Council Against Handguns and the Violence Policy Center.

(Between 1994 and 2001, the Joyce Foundation gave $18.6 million to about 80 anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment projects, including $1.5 million to the Violence Policy Center.)

The Joyce Foundation is closely linked to the “Soros Open Society Institute,” which advocates a worldwide ban on civilian firearm ownership.

Joycey
The police didn’t confront Wahlberg. They called him and asked him to come to the station. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,504524,00.html

Wahlberg didn’t seem to upset by the police either. http://www.linkedin.com/answers/career-education/education -schools/CAR_BUE/428991-29734831?browseCategory=CAR


It’s funny how some people jump to the worst conclusion. I’d say that Dr. Adams has that affect in his writing but that would be “kooky”.

Joycey/john
For the record, I was not trying to excuse the school or teacher for their poor judgment and agree that the cops should probably have dismissed it and moved on, however on the bright side, we shouldn't underestimate the power of persecution to get a point across. Had the police done nothing, would there even be a dialogue on this incident? They may be doing his cause a favor.

Cheers.

Obama Past History on Guns

While serving as director of the Joyce Foundation board (1994-2001),

Obama gives millions of dollars to gun control organizations like the Council Against Handguns and the Violence Policy Center.

(Between 1994 and 2001, the Joyce Foundation gave $18.6 million to about 80 anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment projects, including $1.5 million to the Violence Policy Center.)

The Joyce Foundation is closely linked to the “Soros Open Society Institute,” which advocates a worldwide ban on civilian firearm ownership.

Freedom of Speech
Obviously dingbat douglas does not believe in freedom of speech with the exception of her speech. I wonder if her attitude would change if she and her cohorts in the violation of one of our basic rights were at the whims of a rapist (male or female) or if they were at the whims of someone who has the intentions of taking their life by using a non-leathal weapon (ie, fists, ball bat, steak knife,rocks, plastic wrap, etc.) The professor Wahlberg should hire an extremely good constitutional rights lawyer and go after anderson, her cronies, and the campus police. I also want to know why did the campus police have a list of the weapons he owned at his private residence and how did they get this information?

Second amendment is not for hunting. It is to protect ordinary citizens from the likes of anderson and the fools such as chuck shumer that are doing their best to take away our rights.

Western bondbeam
It's called probable cause and the Police did not have it, They violated his civil rights.

And people wonder why the courts are in shambles
and need to be reformed, they should also arrest the other proffesor for making a false complaint

solution
archie bunker had the solution 35 years ago. in response to all the hijackings going on at the time archie suggested just handing out pistols to all airline passengers at the beginning of the flight and then picking them up at the end of the flight. re college i think it should be mandatory to carry weapons in college. i'd go one step further and encourage concealed carry to all athletic events also. that will keep umpires and referees in line. in addition, i propose that in college football if the game ends in a tie, one student from each side would meet at the 50 yard line for a duel to determine the victor. gives a whole new meaning to the term sudden death. but hey, if it was good enough for aaron burr and alexander hamilton its good enough for me.

Two of a kind
Douglas and Prof Anderson are two peas in a pod: no free speech for anyone but me. Conservatives are all crazy. When they express their opinions, they should all be psychologically evaluated for mental illness. Disgusting.
As for Sheffler's emails: I went to the link and read his emails. I do not find them offensive, I find that he is using his God given right of free speech to complain that a so-called Christian university is full of atheists and leftists. That the university has misrepresented itself as a religious university. And that there is extreme bias towards white males. When I counsel white males who want to go to law school, I tell them they are severely handicapped by the fact that they do not fit the requirements of the diversity crowd: they are not "of color", they don't come from a third world nation, and they aren't handicapped in some way. Law school guidelines for admission essays ask specifically that candidates address their handicaps and how they overcame them. Our schools penalize normal achieving people. Diversity is a scam. And there are a lot more people than Scheffler out there who feel the same but are intimidated by the tactics of the left. One day the majority will find their voices and refuse to be tyrannized by the vocal minority.

WB
Sadly you are right. We tend to blame everyone but the person who actually engages in the behavior. Maybe the ultimate blame should be on on the mother who gave birth to the person who does somethign wrong. Yeah thats it!

Joycey-Nee
Seeing as how this Hairy Legged Harridan lives in Connecticut, I think we should all pitch in and send her a gift of a 200 pound chimpanzee.

n
I agree. Certainly the police used to function this way but with today's PC world and sue happy (angry) public, they are now caught in the middle of a red tape nightmare. They are under the scrutiny of everyone now. Darned if they do, darned if they dont.

If they question the guy that is open carrying, find him to be legit and move him on, and 10 minutes later he shoots up the local Taco Bell, people tend to blame the cops, not the shooter.

What Rudolf meant
Real-world translation in brackets.

"The postings of the real dr. Douglas ...
are perfectly OK, he hits the nail on the head every time.

[The Democrat Party] is a hate site or proto-fascist site, ironically a lot of the posters here like to talk about the evil of Hitler, yet a lot of their own opinions would have fitted in with his right away.

Examples: disdain for [all faiths except Islam]; hatred of [Catholics], [orthodox Jews], [evangelical Christians]; fascination with typical male-macho topics such as [national unity] and the [civilian national security force]; general paranoia about [certain national regions -- i.e. the South], [gun owners], the ["rich"], ["neoconservatives"], national [diversity].


See? Leftists do make sense, once you translate them into the real world.

Joycey/john
Moonbeam? No worries john, I've been called worse.

Just saying that the police were doing their job is all and in trying to discern a situation, their best policy is better safe than sorry. Maybe they were overzealous and sure they do make mistakes.

However, we don't know exactly what the teacher told them. If she told them they thought Wahlburg was a threat....what would you expect them to do? Taking the threat off campus downtown for questioning seems prudent to me. They can sort out apologies and other stuff later if they find out he did nothing wrong.

Prof Mike....
Where is that idiot's email address? You usually print it for this kind of jerk.

In NC one can carry openly a handgun. It gets dicey, though, because there is another law making it illegal to "go[ing] armed to the terror of the public." So prof [sic-small letters for her small mind] anderson would not allow one to do so around her. Maybe the correct term for her is "trigger stupid."

NC also has a concealed carry law with reciprocity with maybe 25 other states. I have had a CC permit for over 13 years and have not shot anyone--yet. Never have had to display a gun--yet. And I won't unless I percieve a threat to me, my loved ones or any other law abiding citizen. If I ever have to pull it I will, and I know how to use it, too!

WB
You will never know what the "n" stands for LMAO What needs to happen is when the police are called to such a scene they need to move on and not address it if the person is following the law. People need to get over it! Its a said day when we can go to a clinic to kill a baby human but cant carry a gun to protect ourselves. Something is VERY wrong with this picture

eor #22
Call them Schooled, not educated. Schooled means they spent some time in class. Educated means they learned something.

n
Greetings n- Does n stand for nipple ring?:-)

"Every person contemplating harm on another would think twice before acting if they wondered that the person had a concealed weapon."
---------------
This brings up a good point regarding open carry laws as well. If more people carried open vs concealed, then certainly the public would be less apt to call the police when they see a guy strapped. It would be common practice.It also would mean less people attacked in public. Who's going to mug someone that is walking down the street with a gun strapped to his side?

I was recently at a dinner meeting with some business friends and during the meal, one of the guys was looking funny out the window into the parking lot. Another guy asked him what he was staring at and he told the group that the guy walking in just strapped a handgun underneath his shirt. The conversation went around and around on what to do.(call the cops etc?) I chimed in and said that the only thing the guy did wrong was let you see him strap the gun. He is most likely legal. I resisted the urge to inform the group that I too was also carrying at the time. Always carry, never tell.

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All this should bring you up to speed and you can begin to help us save our country.

Hmm
I can’t help but think there is more to this story, but as written it is a travesty. The problem here is that there are members of our society that are terrified of guns. I wish gun owners or organizations could come up with a reasonable campaign that showed the public that owning firearms is just as common and as safe as owning a hammer and nails. Consider the late Charlton Heston and “from my cold dead hands”. As much as I admire him, I found that performance to be a little creepy and emotionally charged. Why can’t the NRA just say the simple truth that millions of Americans own weapons and use them in safe and appropriate ways?

Gun violence like that in the news this morning frightens some people beyond reasonable thought. They will never respond rationally while they are terrified. We have to quell their fears first and then work towards a realistic solution to gun violence or incidents like this one will continue.

DavidM
Good point but I think it would be better to bring a civil suit against her. Even if all you do is make her use up her time and resources to defend herself. What she did was inappropriate.

Correction
Sorry, I meant to direct at "Western Bondbeam." He sounds more like a "Moonbeam." Joycey, you are right on.

western beam
I can't see why he needed to be taken to the police station. When the police are called they need to show up. They do not need to add to the professors ability to shut up free speech. Think about the rest of the students. Are they going to be willing to speak out against what the professor thinks. Knowing the police will come and treat them as criminals? I believe all of the students should stand up and condemn her and the police for violating free speech.

This is not an "Open Carry" Case
This was different, Joycey. There was no "threat," just a liberal professor's reprisal for a speech.

Fire her
All that needs to be said.


Mike
Is a law suit posable in this case? To be questioned for what? If we don't fight back it's over.
Kirk

Its3dB52
If he also talked about lower standards for people with different shades of skin tone he was probably explaining the reasons campus is filled with anger and therefor not a safe place.
I hope more students find the courage to stand up to the Tyrannical Communist Professors. Perhaps they will get an "F" what does that compare to the young men who have given their very lives for our freedom. Then the campuses across the nation will be won back to free thinking and open discussions.

Joycey
I wouldnt blame the police. They are doing their job and have to take any threat seriously no matter the source.

Example, Michigan has open cary law which basically means we have a right to carry a handgun out in the open unconcealed without a permit. The gun must be registered but no permit needed to carry open (a permit IS required for concealment). Now few people carry open because when they do, other people panic and call the police. If you carry open, EXPECT a visit from the police and a questioning etc. They are simply doing their job.

I agree
The woman should be evaluated. Who the hell did she think she was and that the CCSU tolerated that is worse. UFB!! Really.

Great Points!
Kerry (#44):

Excellent reminder! The Constitution doesn't grant us any rights; it simply acknowledges and recognizes them as God-given. BTW, that means the government has nothing to say about you or I carrying a concealed weapon, and that means there's really no need for carry and conceal laws!

Mother of 4 (#49):

You make the point with a real jolt! Thanks!

whackos
I cant wait to hear from the whackos who will claim this prof anderson is not a real person. Every person contemplating harm on another would think twice before acting if they wondered that the person had a concealed weapon. Lets do away with restraining orders for women who are abused and issue them a weapon.

To all on this thread.
Douglas of OR is NOT the same DR Douglas of OR, aka Dung Beetle aka Dr Doggie Doo. They are not the same person. For reference see Mike Adams last two columns and read the thread and you will see.

While I admit there is little difference between these two posters, it is my belief that Douglas of OR is actually satiring Dr Doggie Doo. Read his posts as satire and move on.

Why didn't the police just laugh at her.
What kind of police do they have in Connecticutt? Creeps. Are the police supposed to uphold the laws of the State or do the bidding of Communists.

Elimination of Class Enemies

While the average American invertebrate views gun confiscation as an integral component their vision of a Kumbaya paradise, the owners/managers of socialism have a much darker agenda. If one would like a perspective of the hard corps left’s ultimate gun control agenda, they should review Stalin’s treatment of the Kulaks. Kulaks were Russia’s landed peasantry, the nation’s sole claim to a middle class. Stalin not only viewed the Kulaks as obstacles to true socialism, but loathed and reviled them for their middle class values. In a five year period Stalin imprisoned, starved, and murdered more than 10 million of these enemies of change. The Kulaks having no means to resist could only suffer and die.

Art
"Dr. Douglas
The way to silence Dr. Douglas is to ignore him. Do not read; do not respond. He doesn't exist. "

EXACTLY

Definition,
Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to one explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal wound.

Trigger Happy
Unfortunately & tragicly true, Doug! (#46)

What thought provoking points...
how some folks get off topic. Dr Adams does a much needed service advising and some of the posters can't resist the oppurtunity set out name calling like grade school kids and call themselves educated???

The greatest insult you can possibly hand out is to ignore completly any individual that tries to show themselves.

There are some great post here, and some of you simply don't belong.

Trigger Happy
Linnie:(#43)Isn't it strange the college thought police didn't seem to mind grossly violating Title 18, Section 926a, (part of the Brady Bill, the libtards passed in 1993) of the federal code, to punish someone for exercising his constitutional rights of free speech and possesion of a firearm?
Is this what O'Dumbo, the Islamic, Sail-eared Idiot, meant by our Constitution being a flawed document and appointed Mr Holder (the Racial Coward) as his AG??? Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

Kerry
"Better judged by 12 than carried by 6!"
--Or raped by 1.

Trigger Happy
Doug:(#32)
The nurse was indulging herself in a little bit of civil obedience. -Better judged by 12 than carried by 6!-
BTW, this just led me to a bit of an epiphany! Our Founding Fathers stated that our Constitutional rights were God-given; freedoms of speech, religion, assembly, self-defense, etc. It would seem the God-less liberals (because of their denial of God) would like to re-phrase the basis of our rights to a gift given of our secular government. A gift that can be recinded, if we refuse to play by their warped, ever-changing rules. It would seem to logically follow; if there is no God, there is no such thing as a God-given right! As for me, I'll stick to my God, my Guns and my Constitution! A scary but very informative article Mr Adams! KUDOS!
PS Dr Doogie, do you mind actually contributing something substansive to the discussion, rather than ad hominum verbal attacks??? It would be a refreshing change from your obnoxious norm.

Response
This professor that called the cops along with Dr. Douglas' frequent rantings accusing anyone of conservative views to be filled with "hate" is one of the main reasons I will eventually be a law professor to bring a little conservative view to a law school near you (FYI - most tax lawyers are conservative because we know what taxes really do unlike politicians and well, all liberals who are convinced that only the rich benefit from tax cuts, etc.).

Great article Dr. Adams.

Will - again with the gay crap. Guess what? We don't care what you do. Each time you post and others like you who throw your homosexuality in the faces of conservatives like the good people here at TH you remind me that the homosexual agenda is not about any "rights" as much as it is about acceptance. The extremes of your movement and those that support you don't want to stop until people like me say your life style is acceptable. Well, tough sh*t, it's not and it never will be to me but I will tolerate your choice because it's a free country, for now. Get over yourself already.

Rudolf - again the name calling and accusations of hate. You are a typical liberal unable to grasp the beauty that lies within the Constitution. Instead you would prefer to mold it the way you see fit. It is a legal document NOT a living document. The founders knew what they were doing and they did a good job. The second amendment right to bear arms is one of my favorite amendments in the Bill of Rights. Why?

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

Can't wait to buy a gun at the show this weekend. Where is Denise? Another gun-toting lawyer athlete of like-mind from Louisiana. Can't wait to hit Nawlins for Jazz Fest!

Why did they have a List of his guns?
I thought that the Fed.s were supposed to destroy records of gun sales within 24 hours. So, how did these campus police have a record of his guns?

Insanity in America
Thanks for reporting another testimonial to the psychosis which has afflicted a good many people in the country, Dr. Adams. Hysteria is endemic on the campuses.

Professor Emeritus ... "Dr." Douglas?!
Sir:

If you are, indeed, a Professor Emeritus at Oregon State University (a dubious claim, at best) then you are certainly a great example of why so-called "higher" education is quickly becoming a "high" (better stated: gargantuan) waste of money.

"Sir, there is a reason why I am a Professor Emeritus and Adams is only an Associate Professor." Well, yet another elitist answer from the supposed good doctor (another dubious claim.) It reminds me of a previous question you posed: “Why do republicans consistently favor the rich at the expense of the little people?” [Emphasis added] My response to that can be found at: http://anindepentthinker.blogtownhall.com/

Your arrogance knows no bounds, does it?

Please tell me, good “doctor,” what is the exact reason why you are a Professor Emeritus and Mike Adams is only (as you put it) an Associate Professor? Does he not possess a doctorate degree the same as you claim to? To me, the only difference is tenure.

I am reminded of an old adage: “Those who no longer can do … teach.” From what I have read, it is obvious to me that you have not been able to “do” for quite a long time.

For quite some time, I have refrained from responding directly to you, “Dr.” Douglas, simply because I do not believe you are who you claim to be (there is no listing of you that I could find on OSU’s web site) but you are beginning to give those of us with the name of Doug a bad rap.

If circumstances were a bit different, I would be more than happy to debate you on any issue of importance to Americans today. An interesting topic would be the alarming rate of liberal infestation within colleges and universities.

Something tells me, though, that you would not accept such an invitation – probably responding with off-handed, belittling remark.

Obama's Attorney General

Eric Holder is antagonistic toward the Second Amendment right to bear arms, and had supported the Washington, D.C. ban on all hand-guns, even for self-defense in the home.

(That law was later found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.)

Holder supports federal licensing of all handguns, three-day waiting periods, one gun per month purchase limits, national gun registration, and strict limits on gun shows that would effectively shut them down.

I wonder.
Was Professor Emesis here Vomitorian of his class?


-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Dr. Doogie: Professor Emesis!!!
Awarded for making entire classes puke!!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Hamline University

Troy Scheffler, the Hamline University student in question, was not by any means suspended for "merely mentioning that he supported concealed weapons permits on campus." Responding to an offer from school officials for counseling in the wake of the VA Tech massacre, he wrote:

"...there may be people on the edge ready to snap. I cant say I blame them, I myself am tired of having to pay my own extremely overpriced tuition to make up for minorities not paying theirs. On top of that, I am sick of seeing them held to a different standard than the white students (Of course its a lower and more lenient standard).

Oh by the way, when is your "diversity" department going to include European ancestry?"

Given the circumstances, school officials were absolutely right in demanding that Scheffler undergo an evaluation.

You can read Scheffler's ranting, conspiratorial e-mails in their entirety here:

http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2007/07/hamline-unive rsity-student-suspended.html

Rudolf

Rudolf whines, "TH is a hate site or proto-fascist site..."

Then why do you read the posts, moron? Why don't you just stay over there at HuffPo and Koss where you all think alike, like the good little communists you are? Because frankly, nobody takes any of the likes of you, Dr. Dingleberry and the rest of you droolers seriously.

By the way, there's no such thing as "social science," except in your own little pea brain. Call it anything you want, but it's still nothing but opinion.

Rudolf

Rudolf whines, "TH is a hate site or proto-fascist site..."

Then why do you read the posts, moron? Why don't you just stay over there at HuffPo and Koss where you all think alike, like the good little communists you are? Because frankly, nobody takes any of the likes of you, Dr. Dingleberry and the rest of you droolers seriously.

By the way, there's no such thing as "social science," except in your own little pea brain. Call it anything you want, but it's still nothing but opinion.

Douglas

"Sir, there is a reason why I am a Professor Emeritus..."

Kneepads?

Dr. Douglas
A nurse I know carried a handgun in her purse, in violation of the policy of the hospital in which she worked. After getting off at 11PM she went to tha parking garage where her car was parked. Hospital security was not available to escort her. A man came out of the shadows in the parking garage and walked towards her. She asked him not to come any closer. He kept coming. She then took out her gun and pointed it at him. He reversed direction and slithered back into the shadows like the cockroach he is. My question is this: Would the outcome of this situation have been better if she had obeyed the hospital's policy against arming herself?

Thank you Doc. Liberty!
The Dr. Douglas PSA
Once again, I observe several TH posters have responded to Dr. Douglas. Thus, it's time once again for The Dr. Douglas Public Service Announcement:

Dr. Douglas once posted that his own university, Oregon State, was too poor to hire teaching assistants. In fact, as I learned in 5 minutes on the OSU website, OSU does indeed hire TAs. They also recognize and negotiate with the TAs collective bargaining unit. And OSU has a special award to recognize excellence among TAs.

I just want to remind everyone who's done Dr. D the courtesy of responding to him that the man is either a hopeless ignoramus, a pathological liar, an utter fool, or some combination of all 3.

The preceding was a public service announcement courtesy of Doc Liberty. As always, we thank you for your support.

As always Doc Liberty , you nailed it!

late
goodnight all

Will,
Don't know if your going for shock value or what. I'm not shocked. Your lifestyle has zero effect on any facet of my life. I really am just overwhelmed with not caring.

No Record of Douglas at Main or Cascades
Douglass Derryberry is not mentioned as being any part of the Main Oregon State Campus or the Cascades (Bend) campus.

James
Check OSU Bend. He may be a mountain man.

Oh oh
A snob too. I know a lot of educated nuts who have no common sense and are snobs. It goes with the territory.

Dr. Doogie
Thank you for your excellent illustration of "psychological projection." Applause!

And who
do these fine specimans of academia think will save them when the anachists take over? Oh! I forgot! They ARE the anarchists. I'm from Oregon too, but some of us have common sense. Dr. Mike is always right and has the advantage(?)of not being left coast. I'm proud to be in flyover country where common sense prevails.

Derryberry not listed on OSU Psych Dpt.
Douglas Derryberry is not listed on the Oregon State Psychology Department website. He is not listed in any section--including the emeritus section, which he claims.


DouglASS Finally Told the Truth

douglASS has finally told the truth, at 10:25 PM he posted:

"I can be a mindless syncophant just like the next neocon."

I wonder if this means he is finally coming out of his deep denial, or is it just the Gin talking?


BTW I can predict his reply: hate, smear, dishonest, hate, smear, dishonest, hate, smear, dishonest.

He sould stick to his accidemic area of expertise: Phrenology

Another BTW - the person he smears the most (through his actions) is mr douglASS.


Keep ranting douglASS the DNC needs lemmings like you.






Dr. Douglas
The way to silence Dr. Douglas is to ignore him. Do not read; do not respond. He doesn't exist.

Dr Adams' and 'Prof' Douglas
[quote]Professor Emeritus and Adams is only an Associate Professor.[/quote]

I thought an Emeritus Professor was an old bloke who didn't have the good grace to retire yet.

Liberal Democrat
was a name used sometime ago on TH. He posted the most outrageous statements that he could, using "Liberal logic." The posts were excellent parody.
We now have, with Dr. Douglas, either a person adept at parody or, inept at logic. The former merits applause, the latter is one who has been driven to bitterness and borderline stalking behavior.

Douglas,
please say that you're engaging in satire. Surely no one is really as stupid as the Three Stooges.

Dr. Professor Emeritus Douglas
Douglas said:

principal?
Sir, there is a reason why I am a Professor
Emeritus and Adams is only an Associate
Professor. You come across as a scolding
high school principal.

Now we see Douglas' true colors coming out. He's an elitest. Can you imagine a Vice President of a company saying, "There's a reason why Joe is only a division manager, and not a Vice President"? And Douglas manages to put down associate professors and High School principals all in two short sentences. And still he has not managed to substantially address any of the challenges anyone has raised.

I would have expect more from a Professor Emeritus of Psychology.

It's really all quite amusing given that the people paying the bills - the students - consistently rate Dr. Adams better than Dr. Derryberry.

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=215284

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=158835

Douglas
If & when the terrorist scum sucking pigs come back one can't help but wonder ...where will Doug be ? ...looking for protection from one of us who believes in our constitution and 2nd amendment rights,those who happen to be more law abiding than your average "sheeple" followers of the "chosen" one ...laughable !!!

Ivory Tower
Professors live in an Ivory Tower where they believe no one has the right of self defense, that no one can protect him/herself, that self defense is a myth put out by the NRA. And they lament that the 2nd Amendment actually exists! God! What was the matter with those Founding Fathers? To put such a thorn into the liberal backside!

Douglas
One only needs to look at where Douglas resides to know the mentality or is it the mental illness ....radical left liberal Oregon ...beautiful state though !!

Professor Emeritus
If you're like most Professors Emeritus, the reason you attained your lofty status is that you have managed to stay alive.

Hardly an achievement, as it appears from your comments that you have not left campus in 45 years.

Professor Emeritus
If you're like most Professors Emeritus, the reason you attained your lofty status is that you have managed to stay alive.

Hardly an achievement, as it appears from your comments that you have not left campus in 45 years.

principal?
Sir, there is a reason why I am a Professor Emeritus and Adams is only an Associate Professor. You come across as a scolding high school principal.

Two Things...
Two things:
First, Douglas...I think "nyah-nyah-nyah" would have been more appropriate for someone of your juvenile mentality...at least it would have been funnier than "I flagged yours as offensive too."
Second: I had occasion a few months ago to debate a female attorney, co-organizer of the fabled and innumerately named Million Mom March and co-founder of CeaseFirePA. I took the NRA-backed side of the gun-rights argument (that is the Constitutional side)and she took what I found to be the rabid, fear-mongering, irrational, extra-legal side. What was truly amazing was her dripping sarcasm, her attempts at condescension and her manner of saying "NRA"...if one can imagine her spitting venom as she spoke one would have a fairly accurate picture.
In any event, the venue being a retirement community run by Quakers, she certainly had what could be viewed as a stacked deck in the audience. That's not how it turned out, though. Despite her lawyer training, years of courtroom litigation and "heavy hitter" status among the "few thousand moms" and CeaseFire, she lost. In the end, Constitutional provisions, common sense and logic enabled the group to see through her empty rhetoric...one elderly gentleman even scolded her for her "distracting habits" of nastiness that, in his words "soiled the debate."
As we see so often on the left, civility, decorum and sound argument are not preferred tools. Like Professor Anderson, Douglas (above) and my attorney debate opponent, the left is devoid of logic, rationality and elementary manners. Their ad hominem attacks, irrational actions and reactions betray the truth...they just aren't very knowledgeable and they certainly cannot be characterized as thinkers.

flagging
I flagged yours as offensive, too. I can be a mindless syncophant just like the next neocon.

Douglas
I Have flagged your comment as offensive. Mike, perhaps we should take the lead from all the liberals out there who get offended at so many things. I think I will search out all the stupid comments such as Douglas's and flag them as offensive whenver I'm given the chance...I invite all of like mind to do the same. It should keep their administrators busy :-{P)>

Douglas
Douglas again. Perhaps he should be psychologically evaluated for his need to read D. Adams' articles and make ridiculous comments as quickly as he can. I think he's more addicted to Dr. Adams' articles than I am.

By the way, Douglas. You accused Dr. Adams of publishing dishonest propaganda. Can you please tell us all what he said which was dishonest, and how you came to know this information?

Truth
Douglas, this in fact did happen just as described and is not dishonest. Maybe you should be evaluated??

propaganda
More dishonest propaganda. Adams should be psychologically evaluated for his need to smear academics.
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