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Thursday, March 05, 2009
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Feminists are People, Too
by Mike Adams
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I used to have a friend named Ricky back when I attended G.H. Whitcomb Elementary School. Ricky liked to curse a lot even when we were in the 3rd grade. The only reason Ricky liked to curse was to draw attention to Ricky. But once he had your attention Ricky never had anything intelligent to say. Ricky is a lot like the feminists I work with at UNC-Wilmington.

If you walk over to Randall Library at UNC-Wilmington this month you can see a large display that is sponsored by the Women’s Resource Center (WRC). The display is meant to raise awareness of Women’s issues during Women’s History Month, which was previously known as “March.” It certainly reminds me that a number of our campus feminists really do have serious issues.

In large print on the display are the words “Whores are People, too.” Below that one can see pictures of prostitutes surrounded by derogatory names for prostitutes and for women in general. The c-word is one of the many words meant to draw attention to the WRC display. For those who don’t yet know it the c-word means “C.U. Next Tuesday.” You may finish the acronym yourself. Or just listen to any live interview with Jane Fonda.

One major point of the provocative WRC display is to get people to read some statistics on the plight of prostitutes in America. The feminists who run our Women’s Resource Center use the display to decry the fact that most of those arrested for prostitution in America are women. The feminists consider this a form of oppression. Since most prostitutes are female and most “Johns” are male, their remedy is simple: Arrest prostitutes and “Johns” in equal numbers in order to eliminate gender discrimination.

Their suggestion seems reasonable until you stop to give it some thought. Since the feminists rarely stop to give anything serious thought I wrote this explanation for them. As a public sociologist, it’s the least I can do.

Liberals have long had a moral problem with expanding the war on drugs. In fact, most liberals say that it makes sense to contract the war on drugs by focusing on the arrests of large scale drug dealers as opposed to small-time users. The general idea is, of course, a correct one. No one could legitimately argue that the occasional user of an illegal drug is as morally culpable as the regular supplier.

But few academic feminists have the intellectual energy to apply that logic to the policing of prostitution. If it is wrong to prosecute the occasional user of an illegal good with as much rigor as the regular supplier of an illegal good then, surely, the same leniency applies to the occasional user of an illegal service like prostitution.

It is obviously logically consistent to want to target prostitutes rather than “Johns” if you believe we should target drug dealers rather than drug users. Go after the suppliers. Remember?

But logical consistency has never been the goal of the academic feminists. Their goal has always been the special treatment of women. And that is why the WRC display also has several provocative pictures of topless women with very large breast implants.

These grotesque nude pictures are accompanied by captions that ask whether the very large and apparently botched boob-jobs are “attractive.” The message is simple: Women should not get breast implants.

But this WRC idea that women should not get breast implants because breast plants are degrading is not logically consistent with their previous decision to co-sponsor the film “Trans-Generation.” When the WRC sponsored that movie, which glorifies sex changes, they were, of course, approving of the idea that men should get breast implants. It’s tough to understand why new breasts are degrading to women and a cause of celebration for men. I thought feminists were against sexist double-standards. Confused yet?

And of course the WRC’s entire public display of profanity and nudity is a good example of how they promote double standards along the lines of gender. They actively support speech codes which are used to ban words far less offensive than the c-word. They also successfully kept the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders off campus despite the fact that they intended to keep their shirts on.

I’m afraid that the end result of Women’s History Month may be to promote the ideas that feminists are intellectually shallow, easily offended, and in favor of gender discrimination. Maybe it’s time to arrest these intellectual prostitutes. And cut the average John a little slack.

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Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.
 
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If you want to see feminism...
..in action, go through a divorce in the government's family court. It ought to be renamed Women's Court.

Though men are legal innocent, they routinely lose children, 18 years of income, personal property, home, car(s), among other things. When the guy rightfully grows angry with this new arrangement they call it domestic violence.

Academic feminists are walk in the park compared to Women's Court.

If you want to see feminism (reprise)
Brother can I identify with what Mark R. posted. Some years ago the wife I had for more than 20 years decided she didn't want to be married any longer and left. We agreed to split up and not touch each other's assets...just share the care of our four children (two of whom were over 18 at the time).
Then she got a female attorney...rather, I should say feminist shark. Before I knew it she was coming after me for 2/3 of all child expenses, including tuitions to school (her income was way less than mine and I did what I had to do to provide for my kids...she wasn't willing to do the same) and even had the temerity to grab 50% of my pension funds (the state COULD have awarded her 60% if she pressed the issue). To make a long story short, despite the fact that she was the one who left and abandoned the family, she got a nice fat check from me for 1/2 of the value of our home PLUS half of my pension fund (if I hadn't bought her off, she could have waited until I retired and taken her "share" then). It took me the better part of six years to dig out from under that mound of debt while she went on to shack-up with her boyfriend, take cruises, buy a share of a business and, in short, live it up on my dime.
An it was all perfectly legal...

More hate from Adams

This is just another one of Adams' dishonest and hateful posts. Rather than focusing on his usual targets, academics and gays, here he goes after feminists. (He did of course manage to smear liberals in the process).

Why is Adams dishonest? He begins with a ridiculous comparison of feminists to some attention-seeking third-grader. He goes on to claim that feminists want "special" treatment, when in reality they want equal treatment. And of course he ends with the ridiculous, hateful claim that "Maybe it's time to arrest these intellectual prostitutes". Adams will of course hide behind hyperbole, but this is a stupid, hateful statement.

Logically, the comparison to drug suppliers and users is also sloppy and misleading. First, the johns are taking advantage of the prostitute in a way that is not paralleled in the user/dealer relationship. Second, many prostitutes are controlled by pimps (involuntarily), and so it would seem that the pimps should be the primary target of arrests.

Adams is simply trying to spread hate toward feminists. They're really not as remotely scary as he seems to think.

Delusional Douglas
Boy, you use "hate" often. Are you one of those liberals whose idea of intellectual diversity is people who look different but have the one and only correct view? "The johns are taking advantage of the prostitutes." This is that postmodernist thinking that makes radical feminism so laughable. I was thinkin' the prostitutes are exploiting men's need for sex by charging for it. C'mon, isn't this the same exploitation liberals are so quick to whine about when businesses profit from people's illness, hunger, etc.?! I guess bartenders take advantage of beer drinkers. Maybe Mr. Adams-hater will inform the rest of us as to what steps the WRC is taking to denounce the treatment of Musliim women.

Delusional Douglas
Boy, you use "hate" often. Are you one of those liberals whose idea of intellectual diversity is people who look different but have the one and only correct view? "The johns are taking advantage of the prostitutes." This is that postmodernist thinking that makes radical feminism so laughable. I was thinkin' the prostitutes are exploiting men's need for sex by charging for it. C'mon, isn't this the same exploitation liberals are so quick to whine about when businesses profit from people's illness, hunger, etc.?! I guess bartenders take advantage of beer drinkers. Maybe Mr. Adams-hater will inform the rest of us as to what steps the WRC is taking to denounce the treatment of Musliim women.

Ok! Another silly bash-the-feminist
thread! Right on time, too. It's literally been hours since the last bash-the-feminist or bash-the-homosexual or bash-the-atheist column was written for all the wonderful, pious Townhall bashers.

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Mike writes, "But logical consistency has never been the goal of the academic feminists. Their goal has always been the special treatment of women."

Oh, yes! "SPECIAL TREATMENT". Those feminists are always demanding "special treatment". Just like those gays! The gays are always demanding "special treatment". I thought for a second that Mike Adams had written this column already. Everything in it conjures up a tiresome de-ja-vu (we've all been here and done that). But, no, this column is different. Mike does not refer to the feminists as "militant" in this one.


Note to the "culture war" watchers:

Do California voters have the power to "overrule" the California Supreme Court on their own historic decision last May legalizing gay marriage?

Thursday, March 5, 2009, CA's Supreme Court will consider challenges to Proposition 8, the initiative approved by voters (by a slim margin) to re-amend the state constitution, defining marriage as between one man and one woman. The justices hearing this challenge are the very same justices who declared that gays and lesbians had a "constitutional right to marry" almost 10 months ago.

So, this time the issue is a bit different: it isn't whether disallowing gays the right to marry is discriminatory. They already heard that case. They decided is was discriminatory. This time it's: can a majority of voters simply eliminate minority rights, specifically gay marriage, that the court has recognized?


The ruling is due in 90 days.

Hook ups
Most young males are well aware of the perils of marrying a woman who makes less money than they do. With the easy availability of sex, and the lessor importance of relationships and children. men are marrying later and less often. Birth rates are down all over the First World. Females want equality. Are they happy with their new freedom from traditional roles and chivalry yet? Nothing like being evaluated for your income potential to make a college education look desireable. I note females now outnumber male college graduates in our fair country.

Hypocrisy
When it comes to abortion, the feminist rallying cry is "Keep your laws off my body!" So where is the cry for such freedom when it comes to prostitution? Why are not the feminists protesting everywhere the laws which restrict a woman from selling sexual favors if she so chooses? Why no demands for 'Freedom of Choice' if the woman wants to prostitute her body instead off her brain?

Augustine, in 'City of God,' argued against the puritanical elements of his day who sought to ban prostitution, comparing it to banning cesspools in castles: by doing so, you befoul the entire castle.

America, Saudi Arabia & The Vatican have that much in common. But at least Saudi Arabia & The Vatican do not have to listen to the shrieking, hypocritical feminists.

Dr. Adams brings out best in feminists
Dr. Adams is a master at bringing out the best in feminists, as an example, look how Will responds everytime Dr. Adams posts a column.

As a feminist Will is incensed that Dr. Adams would single out his cause for examination without his permission and contribution.

Will has his panties all in a bunch everytime Dr. Adams posts. I think Dr. Adams hits Will's sweet spot every time his column is posted.

Dr Douglas on Mikes analogy
Dr. Douglas, Let me break down Mike's analogy for you as you seem to have under-analyzed it:

Prostitute = Drug Dealer
P!mp = Drug Lord
John = Drug user

Just like many prostitutes are taken advantage of by p!mps and those seeking their "product" so are poor ghetto kids taken advantage of by drug lords and people seeking their "product." That is a pretty good analogy so far.

Police arrest p!mps as well as prostitutes.
Police arrest drug dealers as well as drug lords. Still an accurate analogy.

Police sometimes target Johns as well as drug users so this is still a good analogy.

So all in all Mike gave a good analogy. BTW, all of these people on boths sides suffer from low self esteem but that is another subject to debate later.

Are you really a Doctor?

Sorry about the spelling of p!mp as TH considers that an unacceptable term.

Doc Liberty sums it up:
The Dr. Douglas PSA
Once again, I observe several TH posters have responded to Dr. Douglas. Thus, it's time once again for The Dr. Douglas Public Service Announcement:

Dr. Douglas once posted that his own university, Oregon State, was too poor to hire teaching assistants. In fact, as I learned in 5 minutes on the OSU website, OSU does indeed hire TAs. They also recognize and negotiate with the TAs collective bargaining unit. And OSU has a special award to recognize excellence among TAs.

I just want to remind everyone who's done Dr. D the courtesy of responding to him that the man is either a hopeless ignoramus, a pathological liar, an utter fool, or some combination of all 3.

The preceding was a public service announcement courtesy of Doc Liberty. As always, we thank you for your support.

NO, thank you Doc Liberty!

A Dr. Douglas must read!!!!
Ever since I was a child, I've always had a fear of someone under my bed at night.

So I went to a psychologist and told him, 'I've got problems. Every time I go to bed I think there's somebody under it. I'm scared. I think I'm going crazy.'

'Just put yourself in my hands for one year,' said the psychologist. 'Come talk to me three times a week and we should be able to get rid of those fears.' I asked, 'How much do you charge?'

Eighty dollars per visit,' replied the doctor.

I'll sleep on it,' I said.

Six months later the "doctor" met me on the street. 'Why didn't you come to see me about those fears you were having?' he asked.

Well, Eighty bucks a visit three times a week for a year is an awful lot of money! A bartender cured me for $10. I was so happy to have saved all that money that I went and bought me a new pickup!'

Is that so!' With a bit of an attitude he said, 'and how, may I ask, did a bartender cure you?'

He told me to cut the legs off the bed! - Ain't nobody under there now!!!

SCREW THOSE SHRINKS.. GO HAVE A DRINK & TALK TO YOUR BARTENDER!

Anderson659
I know, I know. But sometimes I can't resist busting out these trolls. My only hope is that I am providing some entertainment to the right thinking posters here on TH. Please forgive my indulgence.

ADL
I enjoy your posts and humor!! Please post more!

Dr. Douglas is on his crusade against conservatives. The public service announcement I thought was a real hoot !

SO FAR...
the only feminine feminist liberals to show up here have been will and Dr. Douglas. They are hardly worth debating so I'm going to wait for the real ones to show.

Mark Ruffolo, I guess the lesson is...
to stay married. The best thing parents can do for their children is to love each other. Even if you don't feel like loving each other, sacrificing your rights for your children is what you should do. Our system has made it too easy to divorce. Parents who divorce because they just couldn't get along fail their children.

Dr Dougie........




.........are you and Will related? You're both idiots.

my small thought
Just wanted to let everyone know that I love reading the posts after an Adams column more than the columns themselves. Will and Dr. Duhg are hilarious in there SNL type "over the top" caricatures. I have long thought that if you take money for Child Support, then you should have a fiduciary responsibility at that point and then you should have to report once a year, showing receipts etc... to prove that the money is being used for that purpose. Not really in line with the nature of the column but we seem to have drifted that way.

That which we call a "Feminist"
by any other name, would smell as pungent.

truetolife @ 7:42
"By any other name. . . ." I would use the term rancid.

Regards

ADLoggy
That was a great breakdown of Dr. Adams' analogy. As several posters have said before, liberal feminists are not after equal rights. They want superior rights.

"Are you (Dr. Douglas) really a Doctor?"

No, but he plays one on Townhall...

;)

Equal but special
"Their goal has always been the special treatment of women."

This has been obvious from the beginning of the feminist movement. The doctrine of "Separate but equal" has been replaced by the doctrine of "Equal but special."

BRILLIANT
Dr Adams pulled oof ANOTHER brilliant column. He clearly points out the idiocy of what passes as feminism in America.

Dr Douglas: willfully blind
It cannot easy being Dr Douglas. It must be very difficult to twist logic as he does in order to intentionally blind himself to the thing he most fears: valid opinions that differ from his.

If he were, even once, to acknowledge that sometimes those with whom he disagrees are not necessarily "dishonest" or "hateful" that would put a crack in the dam... and then his poor little fake intellectual brain would be flooded with scary thoughts that maybe... just maybe... his head is full of crap, and has been for years.

That would be very very scary for poor Dr Douglas... so he has to put big walls and dams around his teeny little brain so no opposing thoughts get into it.

He accomplishes this by dismissing every thought that he finds alien and frightening by calling it "hate" or "lies."

Poor, pathetic little Dr Douglas. And he thinks he's such an intellectual power. In reality, he's just afraid. And, as a result, willfully blind.

Dr Douglas: willfully blind
It cannot easy being Dr Douglas. It must be very difficult to twist logic as he does in order to intentionally blind himself to the thing he most fears: valid opinions that differ from his.

If he were, even once, to acknowledge that sometimes those with whom he disagrees are not necessarily "dishonest" or "hateful" that would put a crack in the dam... and then his poor little fake intellectual brain would be flooded with scary thoughts that maybe... just maybe... his head is full of crud, and has been for years.

That would be very very scary for poor Dr Douglas... so he has to put big walls and dams around his teeny little brain so no opposing thoughts get into it.

He accomplishes this by dismissing every thought that he finds alien and frightening by calling it "hate" or "lies."

Poor, pathetic little Dr Douglas. And he thinks he's such an intellectual power. In reality, he's just afraid. And, as a result, willfully blind.

In honor of demosthenes ...
whom I have not seen here for a while, here is a copy of one of his posts from 12/07:

“First Wave” Feminism was ostensibly sold as “equality of opportunity.” When that didn’t produce enough engineers & scientist to suit the feminists, “Second wave” Feminism became all about allowing upper-middle class women the luxury of “equality in outcome” (e.g., Affirmative Action, quotas, Title IX set asides and other forms of Fascism) in the world of men while retaining their domestic power-base. Gender is course a social construct when it applies to the traditional world of men, but women should have the privilege of maintaining their traditional “matriarchal” power monopoly because they have an innate “nurturing” nature endemic to a uniquely “esoteric” female insight into reality in general. “Third wave” feminism is all about “female-chauvinism” in the guise of gender neo-marxism:
+ “pregnancy should be seen as a super ability” that should be compensated/subsidized by society rather than a disability,
+ “comparable worth”: Nurses (female dominated profession) should be paid the same as Engineers (male dominated profession) , etc.
But, speaking as member of the “disposable” gender, I’m all in favor of an ERA (“Equal Responsibility Amendment”) which should contain the following items:
cont'd

In honor of demosthenes (pt 2)
(a) Women are legally held accountable for their actions (e.g., CAPT Nowak, Mary Winkler, Andrea Yates, Debra LaFave, etc.) like their male counterparts;
(b) Current paternal court system is overhauled to be gender-neutral WRT divorce, alimony, child custody & child support
(c) The law mandates automatic paternity tests for all children born in the U.S. (NOW will fight this tooth & nail)
(d) Women accept the consequences of engaging in relations w/ men with whom they really don’t want to have children rather than using abortion as de facto birth control (apparently 20% of U.S. children conceived (1.4 MILLION) are annually aborted- pretty pathetic behavior on the part of the “morally superior” gender who has access to over a dozen forms of birth control);
(e) Women are prosecuted for committing the most despicable form of domestic abuse: PATERNITY FRAUD (we will need to build more prisons because this will apply to at least 10% of the female population)
(f) The U.S. government spends as much $ financing male specific disease research as it does female specific research (e.g., prostrate vice breast cancer research) which includes the average life-span disparity (men on average lived longer that women prior to the 20th century)

In honor of demosthenes (pt 3)
(g) Women comprise 50% of mining, construction & other work-related deaths (not likely since the lives of women are more valuable than men), e.g., “poor” women should be taken off the welfare rolls IOT be given the opportunity to die along side poor men since gender is a social construct;
(h) Women work 50% of all overtime;
(i) Women pay 59% of all income taxes (59 cents on every dollar collected by the federal government goes to pay for entitlements that almost solely benefit WOMEN)
(j) Men are accorded the opportunity to stay at home to raise their children without being subjected to the usual misandrist “shaming language”, nor losing their home & children
(k) The Social Security Retirement age for women should be extended to 72 IOT compensate for their artificially enhanced life spans;
(l) “Chivalry” (i.e., Pro-female sexism) will be treated as a felony; and
(m) Women do 50% of all standard dirty/analytically-challenging male domestic chores: e.g., replace/re-wire dishwasher, move 8 tons of river rock around the pool area, repair sprinkler piping, inspect crawl space, rip out & replace crawl space door, administer home WLAN, etc

n
I agree that those folks are kooks and Dr. Adams provides a great example of their hypocrisy. So over all, the column is pretty good, solid structure, concise and no innuendo; but brilliant? Come now, saying great job mould more than cover it. I can’t understand this Pavlovian worship that Dr. Adams inspires in some people.

In honor of demosthenes (pt 4)
Feminists, like children, see rights without the associated responsibilities. They see a “Patriarchy” w/o acknowledging the power of the traditional domestic “Matriarchy.” They see the female as “Goddess” but not likewise as the “Devil.” They talk ad nauseum about the “glass ceiling” w/o acknowledging the men tied to the “glass cellar”, e.g., men still dominate the 20 most dangerous, low-paying professions & suffer 95% of all workplace-related deaths & injuries. They are pathetic, petulant, pedantic women-children & if they aren’t careful, the ADULTS with get tired of doing all the heavy lifting and allow the Bogymen to come in and put all of the women of this country in Burkas.

Ladies & associated self-loathing male enablers of female misbehavior: don’t bother to consider the merits of anything I have stated. Merely brand me a “woman hater” & start to attack my manhood. Let the “invalidation games” begin…

FROG Speaking: More poignant words may have never been spoken.

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

Whores are looked down upon...
...but mostly by other women. It's generally not the men who point fingers at them and make snide comments like: "I wonder who she got out of bed with this morning?"

Women are far more likely to put-down the whores and prostitutes, but the feminists want to accuse men of being the major culprit.

But all in all, feminists hate attractive women far more than men. If Al Gore really wants to know what causes Global Warming, he just needs to watch the rise in temperature when an attractive woman walks by a gaggle of feminists. More heat is radiated there than in all of Leonardo Dicaprio's solar panels.


Whores are looked down upon...
...but mostly by other women. It's generally not the men who point fingers at them and make snide comments like: "I wonder who she got out of bed with this morning?"

Women are far more likely to put-down the whores and prostitutes, but the feminists want to accuse men of being the major culprit.

But all in all, feminists hate attractive women far more than men. If Al Gore really wants to know what causes Global Warming, he just needs to watch the rise in temperature when an attractive woman walks by a gaggle of feminists. More heat is radiated there than in all of Leonardo Dicaprio's solar panels.


Whores are looked down upon...
...but mostly by other women. It's generally not the men who point fingers at them and make snide comments like: "I wonder who she got out of bed with this morning?"

Women are far more likely to put-down the whores and prostitutes, but the feminists want to accuse men of being the major culprit.

But all in all, feminists hate attractive women far more than men. If Al Gore really wants to know what causes Global Warming, he just needs to watch the rise in temperature when an attractive woman walks by a gaggle of feminists. More heat is radiated there than in all of Leonardo Dicaprio's solar panels.


Sorry for the multiple posts
The page errored-out after submitting so I assumed it didn't go. Sorry bout that.

MikeR
I'll tell you why I thought it was brilliant. His use of the drug war analogy is perfect and serves to squelch the screeching feminists in their tracks. I am so tired of them, the global warmists, the diversity crowd, multiculturalists. Am I the ONLY one who is fatiqued by all that garbage?

terry
No problem...As far as I'm concerned you can multi-post any time you like!!!

Steve
Amen

Amen, again

Good One Mike!!!!
Thanks for keeping up the good fight against the insanity of the Lefty Jackasses.

Dr Dooooglaas. Mike and Ann are much smarter than yoo.


YLG
Thanks for the affirmation. Dr. Doug and Will are always ranting when Mike Adams writes a column. They can never do a good critical analysis of the article and debate the points made in the column or refute them with fact or common sense so they grasp at straws, redirect or make totally inane comments like they did here today.

BTW, I have read some of your stuff as well, and though I know its not hard to do, love the way you slap the libs around. Keep up the good work.

not brilliant
I agree that this is a solid article but not brilliant. Worth publishing though because of the drug dealer analogy. It is making me think.


Flawed logic - convict boss, not worker
Mike is using a very weak analogy. The "War on Drugs" should be targeting the big time dealers, not the smaill time users or small time dealers (selling small amounts of pot, etc). Thus, we should be going after the Pimps that beat, drug and force women into Prostitution, not the women out on the streets trying to survive. And a good number of Johns are "frequent flyers," as opposed to "occasional user."

I agree Feminists are a wacky bunch and most of their arguments are pure drivel. But that doesn't get Mike off the hook for a poorly written column.

Terry
"But all in all, feminists hate attractive women far more than men."

Example A, Sara Palin

Not Brilliant
No it is not brilliant. It is funny. It is a lampoon - a severe ridcule or virulent satire of the character or statements of an individual or organization.
Well executed.

Dr? Doug
His posts are why they make the down arrow on the keyboard.

I looked up the term hissy-fit in the dictionary
it said : see Will

Missing the Point Entirely,
That feminists should miss the point completely is expected, but I thought better of you, Mike.

The point being that large portion, perhaps even the vast majority, of prostitutes are slaves -- kept in drug-addled submission by the pimps who buy, sell, use, abuse, and profit from them.

The "Johns" should be punished for being complicit in their enslavement, the pimps should be punished for keeping slaves, and the slaves should be helped to achieve the position where they are capable of making the decision to choose, as a free citizen, to be a productive member of society or to choose, as a free citizen, to intentionally engage in crime.

Prostitutes who are not slaves should *gasp* be prosecuted for the crime of prostitution.

The "Johns" patronizing non-slave prostitutes should likewise be prosecuted for that crime.

But neither whacko-fringe feminists nor conservative columnists should make a joke out of the enslavement and abuse of women and children that is so common in what the PC police insist on calling "the sex industry".

Coursening of the culture
Ever wonder what happened to public politeness in this country? How did we get to such a stage where public profanity, rudeness, wonton displays of sexuality, and even violence is commonplace?

IMO it was because of the Left. In the 60s anything that was anti-establishment or counter-culture was considered "cool" and (as Pat Moynihan famously said), we Defined Deviancy Downward.

But my question is...now that profanity is so commonplace as to be virtually unnoticeable, what will the Left do for a 2nd act? What new lengths will they go to iot to prove to us (and themselves) that they're "hip/cool" trend setters and not just workaday sheeple like the rest of us?

Reminds me of..
Every time I see a post on a Professor Adams piece by "Doctor" Douglas, I am reminded of a few of the lines from the old radio shoe, "Ask Doctor Science."

Announcer, "Ask Doctor Science!"
Second Voice, "He's not really a Doctor."
Doctor Science, "I have a Master's Degree, in Science!!!"

Mother of 4
If you truely believe prostitution is slavery then lets not prosecute anyone and just get the women out of that lifestyle. Prosecuting the "john" is akin to punishing the buyer of a cotton shirt that was produced by cotton from a slave plantation. Does that make sense to you? It doesnt to me. lets shut down the business of prostitution just like we did the business of slavery.

Bitter
One would think they'd applaude the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders for being strong, beautiful women living the life they chose. Isn't feminism all about women having the ability to make their own life choices? Oh wait, it's actually about women uncomfortable with the idea of successful attractive women that take responsibility of their own achievements rather than blaming their failures on anything without ovaries.

Prostitutes made their illegal choice. They can face the consquences. And the "c" word on a sign sponsered by the bitter women described above aren't going to change any minds.

Legalize It
You'll notice that Nevada, which has legalized prostitution in all but the two major counties, does not have a major problem with drugs, STDs, crime or violence surrounding prostitution.

Make something illegal and it automatically builds up a violent underclass that will engage in the behavior anyway. You can't stop prostitution any more than attempting to stop drug use or any other activity, legal or otherwise, that you may find "offensive".

Legalized and regulated will destroy the p!mp's business, removing the ability to engage in the violent act. People won't want to buy the services of a random street walker when the certified STD free location that gets a monthly inspection ensures a safe and slave-free environment of women who actually want to engage in the activity. As they say, people who enjoy their jobs are better at it than those who are forced to.

JohnR22 wrote...
"But my question is...now that profanity is so commonplace as to be virtually unnoticeable, what will the Left do for a 2nd act?"

JohnR, I think we are seeing it now. Welcome to the left's world. Abortion as birth control, live babies being thrown in the trash or left to starve alone on a metal table. Also, have you seen a gay pride parade, and don't forget about same sex marriage. Why can't they settle for civil unions that give them the same rights and legal responsibilities.

As I now think about it and how feminist want special status, like women normally get in the divorce courts, I wonder who'll get the better half in a civil union? Who'll be stuck paying alimony? Wow, I'd love to watch the judges squirm and the lawyers argue in those cases.


Mike and Most of You are Wrong
I'm surprised at the posts here. I'm a conservative, and I consider myself a feminist. Perhaps my definition of a feminist is not quite the generally-accepted one. I had thought that a feminist was a person who agrees with the premise that women deserve equal treatment under the law. Can I remind this board that the United States did not grant women the vote until 1920?

I submit that the academic far-left at Wilmington are not feminists at all, but are loons pursuing an inconsistent agenda, and not a very serious one at that.

Some women appear to be obsessed not with the perfection of their character or intellect which is where their attention should be focused, but with the perception that attractiveness of a speaker is somehow a legitimate measuring stick for value or legimitacy the speaker's ideas. That is dangerous and misguided. I have posted in the past that my idols are Maggie Thatcher and Jeanne Kirkpatrick, neither of whom were beauty queens. However, they were both intellectual giants, propounding ideas I still admire and accomplishments surpassing most men's. Using physical traits to measure the worth of a woman or anyone is not "left" or "right", it's just plain shallow, silly and imbecilic. Shallowness has nothing to do with conservatism which IS all about ideas. I don't recall that conservative women are any more or less attractive than liberal women, and who should care whether they are or aren't?

If you believe as I do, that the purpose of existence is perfection of character/soul than self-mutilation in any form, whether a "boob job" as the author so eloquently labels it, or pulling up one's face or anything else is an impediment to that worthy goal ought to be frowned upon as a character flaw or a weakness? It used to be called vanity and yes, it used to be considered a "sin". That is why I object to cosmetic surgery.

Question
why wshould the government care that one person pays another person for sex? Between 2 consenting adults it sounds like a business contract to me nothing less nothing more.

In that case
The government then has an interest insofar as the contract is honored by both parties. Insuring there is no price gouging and services rendered are worth the price paid.

Alecto
I agree with most of what you said but lets face it conservative republican women are much hotter then lib dem women. Its no contest. Its true that appearances have nothing to do with the quality of character or content but its much easier listening to sarah palin then it is hillary clinton. And I think you would agree hillary is no slouch when it comes to intellect or content

trolls
Engaging trolls in debate is like being with a prostitute, it's fun for a moment but then you feel the need for a long hot shower.

Mike
I though the c word stood for "can't understand normal thinking", whitch would fit feminest better.
Kirk

To understand how TRULY dishonest....
... "Doctor" Douglas really is, imagine what he'd be belching had ACTUAL Dr. Adams simply took a copy of that WRC poster and nailed it to the door of his own office.

"Doctor" Douglas would be apoplectic. He'd be thrown into an uncontrolable Tourette's induced fit. "HOW DARE EVIL POOPY ADAMS BE SO HATEFUL AND CALL PROTITUTES 'C**TS'! HE IS JUST A HATE MONGERING EVIL PERSON, AND IT GHEY TOO!"

"First, the johns are taking advantage of the prostitute in a way that is not paralleled in the user/dealer relationship. Second, many prostitutes are controlled by p1mps (involuntarily), and so it would seem that the p1mps should be the primary target of arrests."

Point in fact, "Doctor", had you the want to find out, you'd know that in actuality, VERY FEW prostitutes are controlled by a p1mp. Any cop will tell you that something on the lines of 95% of all prostitutes are protitutes because they are trying to support their own drug habits, and don't have a p1mp to control them.

But facts and rationality doesn't matter to a faux-doctor like you, now does it? All you care about is obeying your DNC masters and posting ridiculous rants any time ACTUAL Dr. Adams posts a new column. ACTUAL Dr. Adams could post an article on the virtues of charitable giving, and an America-hating fascist puke like you would be screaming about how "hate-filled" people must be if they want to help starving children in Africa.

FROG: I am honored...
"In honor of demosthenes ...
whom I have not seen here for a while, here is a copy of one of his posts from 12/07:..."

I am sending you this post from "Hadrian's Wall". The most-effective leader intends to engineer himself/herself out of a job. It has always been my intention to persuade someone (vice ad hominem attacks) to think outside the conventional "box" that this gynocentric society has created for the disposal class.

I can now say that the torch has been passed.

Challenge the matriarchy, their enablers & the gynocentric paradigm. They can only marginalize men if we as men continue too let them do so.

feminists
I cannot understand why these "women" are allowed to have this kind of literature displayed in a public place first and these kind of women (feminists) almost make me ashamed to be called a woman although I don't want to be a transgendered person!! Mike you are right on with your comments.. Go get'em and let the dr douglas take up residence with the feminists.

The Underlying Issue
I submit that I will be willing to give the feminists all they ask of us men if they will but grant us men one thing. TRUE EQUALITY IN THE HOME, DIVORCE COURT, GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND GRANTS, in short, all the things that true equality brings. EQUAL RIGHTS = EQUAL RESPONSIBILITIES!!!!. All the injustices happening in our family law courts are a direct result of the special status given women. Women rant about "GLASS CEILINGS" yet, how many men achieving high status in their early 30's leave their posts to raise a family because they feel their "bio-clock" ticking? Men and women are equal in value, but differ in WHAT THEY ARE VALUABLE FOR!
You can flip a silver dollar, but you can't fold one up and put it in your wallet. Both the coin and the paper buck still equal $1

Alecto
"Can I remind this board that the United States did not grant women the vote until 1920?"

Can I remind you that most states had already granted women the right to vote before that time? 29 states granted women the right to vote prior to the 1920 amendment.

Modern "feminists" aren't concerned about equal treatment. Were that their concern, they'd be advocating that women take pay CUTS, as every study ever performed, when education, work experience, and hours worked are taken into account, has found that women make considerably MORE than men with equivilent experience, education, and working hours.

Alecto: OK
I'm surprised at the posts here. I'm a conservative, and I consider myself a feminist.

OK. You're referring to 1st wave feminism & I'm trying to acertain whether you are being obtuse, ignorant or conveniently stupid WRT the current dysfunctional favor of feminism: "Gender-Feminism".

It will take the collective power of the 1st wave feminists to undo the damage caused by their female-chauvinist counterparts. Try thinking past the confines of your privileged existence.

n
One reason conservative women are hotter than liberal ones is that conservative women aren't already 'used up'. Hillary is a good example as you say.

The real reason prostitutes are targetted is because women don't want to see their husbands go to another woman - particularly in these days when you can pick up diseases easily. (A couple of years ago a prosecuter tried to jail a prostitute for knowingly giving Johns Aids. The judge let her go because she had no other way to make a living. Go figure.) I think Nevada has the right attitude; put them in houses and check them monthly for disease.

I think the femnists are wanting to help the prostitutes because so many of them are in that profession already. After all, it is a good business; no matter how much is sold it is still there for further sale and there are no overhead costs of purchasing the merchandise from someone else to resell. And some people can get thousands a day for it (although others are luck to get a few bucks). Of course the packaging makes a big difference in price.

beowolf
That was a very good post.

What more do they want
Women already control 80% of the money and 100% of "Can't Understand Normal Thinking".

Men are reduced working their butts off to provide the first and beg for the second.

The First Two Posters
I am a female who left my husband. Sue me, I also had to deal with bi-polar disorder with psychotic tendencies. This condition led to him believing in an extreme form of charismatic christianity, which says that God is going to bless us no matter what. I had to deal with no savings but "investments" in Sammy Sosa baseball cards (which I'm sure have tanked now). At this point in time I don't get child support because he lied to the courts and said that our incomes were about the same (he took several days off work without pay to make sure of this). So guess who is paying for my son's Little League fees and uniforms and equipment? Not him...he told me that he doesn't have the money. He also is too broke to pay for my daughter's dance classes or dance equipment (leotard, shoes, etc). He has not paid for my daughter's private school education -- and in fact still owes for the last month that we were together for his daughter from a previous marraiage and our daughter. Please don't go off on a tangent about how women get over on men that much. I couldn't afford the barracuda for a lawyer so I was stuck with having my children totally confused because they don't feel safe with their father (he's constantly accusing me of breaking into his home and rearranging things so that he can't find them -- and has even called the cops on me twice -- the sherriffs department has stopped listening to him). This guy held a knife to his brother's face almost a year ago, yet he is considered to be a stable parent...you tell me, am I over reacting?

right on...
"The display is meant to raise awareness of Women’s issues during Women’s History Month, which was previously known as “March.”"

f'n hilarious.

Feminist logic
James "drag a hundred dollar bill" Carvelle pulled one of the most brilliant twists in the Clinton Lewinsky mess. Clinton having been alleged to have engaged in sexual harrassement, Carvelle says we should grow up IT IS ONLY ABOUT SEX. Many a feminists decided to forget they made sexual harrassement a crime and continue to support Bill.

Remarkably too is that James is still a respected speaker for the democrats though one might consider his remarks as highly offensive, were they truly concerned for respecting women.

Fund Feminism w/Legalized Prostitution!
As I ponder the "wisdom" of the feminists ranting about how they are so mistreated and maligned I begin to realize I am just a knuckle-dragging male. How is it that a john can exploit a prostitute? Why is sex sold? The reason...Women have what men want, (excluding gay men)& some are willing to pay for it up front, others prefer to pay later via divorce. If women do not want sex to be sold, stop selling sex! You have the power! Women already have access to money they didn't earn through the welfare and the divorce court systems. You then tell us we are of no use to you if we don't have enough of our own money left after paying for all your support, but yet it is the johns fault that prostitutes sell themselves? If it were not for prostitution, I wonder how many men would be really exploiting women--then facing rape charges? I say legalize prostitution and tax the heck out of it! Obama could use the money to save us all!!!! (I won't hold my breath on that one!) Use the proceeds to fund militant feminism research or perhaps a "male castration program for all U.S. citizens!

The real truth...
is this is about agendas not whats right or wrong. Who has treated women as badly as slick willie and teddie, drive you off a bridge, kennedy, yet they are loved by lib dem women. As long as any group plays the victim they will always be victimized.

In response to #69
I was married for 14 yrs. and my wife decided to leave me because she was bored. What happened next was appalling, she wiped out my bank accounts, ran up all my credit cards and then was able to get half my retirement up front. I was forced to cash it out and who had to pay ALL the taxes and penalties. Me. She had a college education, and I was a truck driver. I say was because after 2yrs of making 60K (that's 5K a month) I was only left with $800 bucks a month! I lost all custody because I was homeless and working 70+ hours a week! You bet I did not have enough money to pay for little leaque, jr. football, boy scouts or even glasses so my youngest son could read either! Honey, I am sorry you picked a looser, I did too and both of us must pay for our poor choices, but that is the point. You make choices and you live with the consequences! When you look to Government or your ex-husband to support you, you cannot call yourself an adult. Why don't you try to keep a roof over your head w/$800 a month and NO GOVERNMENTAL ASSISTANCE OF ANY KIND because your gross income is more than enough to live on! Don't forget, men are not allowed to deduct, or use child support costs when qualifying for any form of governmental assistance-even student loans and grants!
Sometimes women get the shaft in a divorce, but it is the exception rather than the rule!!!

Tish
That guy sounds unstable so you seem better off without him. No one says any woman should stay with a man who is abusive or unstable.

Will
Totalitarians like your self, don't believe that people should be able to amend the state constatution. You are not asking for equeal rights, you are forcing acceptance. You have the same rights as anyone else has when it comes to marriage. What kills me is you are so proud of yourself for who you have sex with. I ask who cares! And does everything you post have to be about homosexual issues, even when it does'nt pertain to the issue.
Dr. dipstick postes a 12:46 am, what are you a dr of. Insomnia? How come you don't go to work?
Kirk

Tish
I am glad you pay your own way! And I accept your anger in my assumption that you were on assistance. I was not making that assumption but can see how you might have come to that conclusion. I know that if what you are saying about your ex is true, you had a real loser for a husband, but... My point is that Women are already treated as better than men in many institutions here in America as it is and some of us men are tired of hearing about how we need to pay more in society to make up for past societal mistakes. I will gladly pay for the mistakes of the past when I am proven responsible for things done before I was born! Not all women who leave men are bad for sure! Not all men who cannot pay to provide the same standard of living after a divorce are bad either. It only stands to reason that if you place 100% of the tax burden on his income & charge him 50% or more of his gross income for child support, he is not going to have much money if any for anything other than survival.
I was a fool for putting my ex through college, just as you were a fool for your choice of a foolish and violent, emotionally unstable husband too! I think that makes us just about equal doesn't it? I wish you well.

Tish
No, and neather was Shara Pallins family. You had a bad time, but don't judge all men the same. I wish you all the best. In MN child suport is set by law, 25% for the first child and 5% for every child up to 5 kids. Maybe MD should do something like this.
Kirk

Tish
It takes a lot of courage to do what you did and I understand why you would be upset. I have also seen cases where men have been taken advantage of. I guess my point is laws need to be applied evenly and each party has a responsibility for themselves. A man should take care of his children and a woman should do the same especially when they divorce. A woman should be expected to contribute as much to caring for the kids as the man, whether she decides to remarry or get a job of her own it should be a shared responsibility. Sometimes it falls more heavily on a man regardless of why the divorce happened.

Bleeding Heart
Prohibiting stuff is more a liberal idea rather then a conservative one. Who wants prohibit prayer in schools (that should be a choice), who wants to restrict/prohibit gun ownership? who wants to prohibit free speech (speech codes in schools)? Who wants to implement the fairness doctrine? Conservatives for the most part want the constitution to dictate government involvement in peoples lives whereas liberals preferto decide for people whats best for them.

S and Kirk
S -- I don't hold any man responsible for the "errors" of the past. I actually have a very healthy respect for sane men. It's the insane ones that I have a problem with. I screwed up when I married the guy and I know that. I knew that within a year of marrying him. But again I was raised in a god-fearing Christian house hold and I think that he and his family (all but his brother now for obvious reasons) were counting on that fact more than anything. I would put up with anything because I was scared of going to H*ll. Hey, living through it on earth ain't no picnic either. Once I talked with a good Christian friend about my fears and she and my other Christian friends helped me to realize (after nine years of bugging me) that I made a mistake, one that I didn't have to pay for for the rest of my life. Women are not treated better than men in Maryland. Come live here. I had him hide my children from me during the separation and try to use that period to force me to sign a visitation agreement made up by him by his lawyer while my lawyer was in the hospital during emergency surgery. In the beginning I couldn't even get the police to talk to him becasue there was nothing in writing. Everything you accuse women of doing? My ex did to me...so the road goes both ways. Those of us who try to do the right thing for the children usually get scr*wed irrespective of gender.

Liberal "supply side" inconsistency
Extending the focus on supply side enforcement that Liberals want for drugs to prostitution is very apt and insightful. If we get them to take that step, might some Liberal enthusiasm for Supply Side Economics be next?

Mother of 4
I absolutely hate p1mps and the idea of them. If I had my way, there would be a bounty for each of them, payable upon delivery at the nearest police station. When the police do find a slave unit (and they do even in the U.S.) I believe that every p1mp there should be shot on sight and then shot again to make sure he's dead. No quarter. Too many girls are raped, tortured, and forced onto drugs only to enrich some p1mp even if it is only one.

Bruce joins the Obama Administration!
We have economic problems.

We have terrorist problems.

We have illegal alien problems.

But Bruce and the Obama Administration can't help but bring Rush Limbaugh into everything.

That's it! Since Bush is gone, we now blame Rush for everything! That's the ticket!

DR. ADAMS and Frog
THE REAL DR.Adams is a credit to his PHD. He obviously is a student of Logic and Rhetoric since his writings are so right on and concise. He is a joy to read and I envey his students. I don`t know Frogs background but his multipart discourse on womens issues was also right-on. He is either a student(of life) or professor. Both of you keep up the good thoughts and writings. By the way, ignore dr.(??) douglas and will.. Just flag them and go on. Maybe they will go to the daily kos where they will be loved.

Husker Blames the Messenger
Rush says something stupid about the topic at hand (feminism), and when it's pointed out, instead of dealing with the stupid thing Rush said, Husker goes off topic and wimps out.

This used to happen all the time when Reagan would say something really stupid and it would get called out and corrected--the Subject-Changers would attack those who pointed it out, rather than deal with the fact we had a dingy President who believed stupid things.

I have been surfing around TH today
to see if conservatives have changed and are talking about real issues yet - imagine my surprise to find, in spite of the trouble the right is in, this moron is still writing columns for TH and has the usual followers posting messages from their 1956 time warp.

Well, I can report good news to the liberal blogs - they are definitely in no immediate danger of being out-witted, out-argued, or out-ideologued.

Keep it up, take my advice: make Adams your mental mentor, keep recycling the same prejudices and bumper stickers over and over among yourselves, and stay as far to the right as possible so you can make room for the left as it passes you by in greater and great numbers.


Fred
A little harsh, but I myself was pretty shocked to see people are still talking about feminism. Maybe that state where this columnist teaches has been quarantined for the past 15 years.

If you think about it, though, this really is a pretty good example of why the right has come crashing down in this country and doesn't look to be getting up any time soon.

Tish: You have my genuine sympathies
"... just wanted you to see that not every woman gets over. In case you didn't read it ...my ex pays NO child support WHAT SO EVER!!!

My brother is a semi-out of control bi-polar man-child that I had to have committed at one point. Hence, you have my genuine sympathies. Your ex provides no child support because his sickness likely prevents him from even supporting himself financially.

Unfortunately, your circumstances are the exception to the rule & in a typical female fashion you have projected your issues onto the female body politic. Reality, since female trial lawyers invented no-fault divorce, women are of course abusing said institution- they file for over 70% of divorces. Why? Because they can. Why bother to practice serial monogomy if you can't have you ex-husband subsidize if not altogther pay for your activities. The majority of all female divorcees don't share your circumstances.

You might be happy to know that no-custodial mothers are 3X more like to be dead-beat parents than their male counterparts.

Feminists are people, too
Mike, I agree with your views on feminists, but you got one thing wrong in your column.

Your occasional drug users, along with the regular drug users, are just as culpable, if not more so, as are the drug dealers.

Those millions of occasional users are parrt of the Supply and Demand theory. Eliminate the demand for drugs and you eliminate the supplier of drugs.

Fred: 1956?
"...this moron is still writing columns for TH and has the usual followers posting messages from their 1956 time warp."

Do you often view ad hominem attacks as a viable substitute for rational discourse with indiduals with whom you disagree? Left me guess-you have a degree w/ the word "Arts" printed on it? Does being a fashionably self-loathing male grant you sense of moral superiority? Do you derive validation from the opinions of the female-chauvinists in your immediate circle of "progressive thinkers"?

BTW Friedan stole most of her culture of victimhood & associated anti-male ideas from Engels.

I would entreat you to go back to school IOT obtain an education, but I doubt that you have that much time left.

Are you sure, Mike?
Some time ago, a liberal on one of these threads asked me if Mike Adams ever wrote anything with which I've disagreed (since liberals can't think for themselves, they assume no one else can).

He'll be happy to know that Adams has indeed written some words with which I must take issue. Those words are, "Feminists are people, too."

If feminists are people, they're certainly not from this planet.


n
Don't try to reason with "Bleeding Heart Liberal." He once accused Marine recruiters of deception. How so? They didn't tell him he might be sent into combat if he enlisted!

That guy is obviously running a deficit in the common sense department!

Ethan: OK
"Maybe that state where this columnist teaches has been quarantined for the past 15 years."

And maybe the state of IL insists that all MALES surrender their nether regions to appropriate STATE officials until their female-chauvinist betters deem them "worthy" to have their property returned to their rightful owners.

You obviously haven't qualified to have your assets returned to you since your posts reflect the fact that you don't have a "set". Does being a self-loathing male work for you?

Ken
You are kidding about that recruiter thing right? LOL No one can be that stupid can they?

Demosthenes to Fred
D, I read your response to Fred and I don't think it makes any sense, or maybe you just didn't understand what Fred was saying.

As for myself, I have been looking into TH for a long, long time and this is an issue that Adams recycles every few weeks when he can't come up with a subject that is either interesting or relevant to 2009. It's a kind of daisy chain, gays-feminists-atheists-liberals-and then all over again. This column is a recycled tract that has been around for years.


Bleeding Heart Liberal: Spare me
"Equal pay for equal work is a philosophic law of equality. This is the core of feminism thought."

Spare me. That was 1st wave feminism- completely obsolete. Unfortunately, an inordinate amount of women want equal pay without (a) working overtime (men work 90% all overtime); (b) assume risk (men suffer 95% of all work related injuries & death); (c) job continuity (men sacrifice their domestic lives); and education (men still dominate the most academically rigorous of all professions: Scince Technology Engineering & Mathematics (STEM) professions.)

Get out of your timewarp and start looking at reality.

Ken
Thats liberal thinking. I once had a wood burning stove that was made for liberals. Emblazened right into the metal was the words, this is no lie, "Hot when in use".

n
"You are kidding about that recruiter thing right?"

Not at all. That's what he said!

"No one can be that stupid can they?"

I didn't used to think so, but apparently I was wrong.

ethan
You are absolutely right!!! Do you know why? Because the gay-feminists-athiests-liberals continue to do idiotic things. I'll bet you $100 that as soon as they all stop acting like morons Adams will stop writing about them.

Mike cuts throught the BS - as usual
As usual Mike shows how feminists always want what they want, not what's consistant.

Situation A - good for a woman - feminists defend it.

Situation B - Bad for the woman, but same as situation A, feminists decry it.

But, pointing out their hypocrisy is still fun.

n
Coke had to make special coke bottle for libs before they switched to cans. The bottom of the bottle had "open other end."

Hmmmm
Observation #1: There goes will again... bringing up gays in a commentary that has nothing to do with gays. Methinks, he's a bit obsessed with the whole buttseks thing...

Observation #2: Dr. Douglas seems to equate that pointing out inconsistencies in feminist reasoning is equivalent to hate. This is akin to the attitude that constructive criticism of Teh Anointed One (tm) is equivalent to racism.

Women were oppressed once upon a time, but it sure seems they are now intent on making the pendulum swing the other way. They want equal pay, but they don't seem to want to mention that there are some jobs men just excel at, and the fact that a woman may WORK just as hard at being a longshoreman, but may not achieve the same results as a man due to different physiologies doesn't seem to matter.

They are against discrimination, but will shriek like meth-addled banshees if actual EQUAL standards are used in hiring practices that happen to favor the male.

Fact of the matter is feminists don't want equality. They want an advantage.

AAWM Pity Party
Poor fellow; just lost another woman to his bad attitude and now wants to denigrade every woman who sees him for what he is; a shallow, self-delusional man with a less than stellar performance when it comes to women. Keep on honey, we all know a sad sack when we see one. If you are not sure about what I speak of, just go take a look into the mirror.

Ethan
You are right on about Mike writing about feminists every three weeks. He would write more but there is so much idiocy that Libs on campus do, he can only fit them in every three weeks. Those with "Arts" on the end of their degrees offer an endless supply of stupidity to write about.

Bleeding Heart
I've gotta do the "Rush thing" here: I believe, no victim equals no crime. Therefore prohibition of private behavior in all forms is ridiculous and constitutionally unenforcable. I am all for nullifying any law to that effect.

However, what frosts my cookies is people who agree with me, especially on the drug issue, and suggest it might be a great revenue stream for government. Should government profit by "allowing" people to use drugs? Should they profit on the cancer patient's morphine? No in both cases. SCREW government. When you say, legalize it, regulate it, then tax it you are a fool. The word is decriminalize...PERIOD!

Feminism and chauvinism become...
...obsolete and irrelevant when unity becomes the focus of your marriage rather than equality.

PS
Article 1 Section 10 says no law can be passed that impairs the obligation of contracts. A prostitute and the john have a bilateral, albeit verbal, contract for services. So does the drug seller and the drug buyer. It includes the pharmacist as well!

Demosthenes
Do you often view ad hominem attacks as a viable substitute for rational discourse with indiduals with whom you disagree?


Yes, but rational discourse between or among people who disagree has never existed on Town Hall and presumably, never will. I've noticed that negative comments are only "ad hominem" when they are stated by liberals, by the way.

Also, Demo, for the record, you might stop basing your posts on so many assumptions: I'm not male, I'm not old, and I'm not from Illinois. And, I'm all too familiar with women-haters like yourself and your mysogynist mentor, Mike Adams who as usual is frantic denial about his fear of women and obsession with gays. You figure it out.

ADLoggy
That is Hilarious

Not Fred Not from IL
So if you are nothing like what you represent through your name and location we can assume that everything you write is equally bogus. Works for me.

I can do nothing...
...with philosophies that deal with the relationships between the sexes that don't aim to draw the man and the woman closer together. Those that breed gender warfare like feminism and chauvinism help neither the man nor the woman. They slash, burn and seek to justify.

If pheminists hate sexism...
... why do they do so much of it ?

Rick
They are like all liberals its do as i say not as i do

Good article and argument Doc
Thanks, a refreshing read... I can't stand Feminazi's anymore than I can stand other Fascists or Marxists, or Islamist... all think the same way.

Dr. Douglas is such a hoot...
Doc, you're a real maroon... I'm glad I left Oregon some forty years ago. Beautiful state like Khalifornica, but now full of idiots. You are not welcome in Texas, we have enough idiots in Austin.

Like Professional Politicians;
Liberal Activists should be outlawed.

I have no problem with equality - when it happens - but the brutality of the "fairer sex" as a Liberal Activist has the bureaucratic world so atremble, it's a wonder there are any men left unchained.

I also like the analogy with the Drug War and have the same response to both:
Quit wasting my time and money.
As long as there is a market, it'll sell; and as long as it's "illegal", it'll be Big Business for someone.
I wonder if the Drug CEOs (oops! Overlords) and Prostitution CEOs (oops! Pimps) are getting their bailout?

I Am Woman Hear Me Roar...

At mutter fracking feminists, Libtards and Fat Al Gore AGW religionists.

How are my homeboys? Are you guys ready to go hunting, fishing, or golfing? I am. Let's just go kill something already. Of course, we can eat it on the 15th, which is national Eat-A-PETA Day!

Sweet 16 isn't a birthday. It is the 16 finalists in the NCAA Championship.

Got all that Dr. Doofus? Good.

Feminists are people?
The feminist agenda: Hell has no fury like a vested interest masquerading as a moral principle. Their influence is mostly destructive to the social fabric, a fabric based on thousands year old traditions that are in turn based on the genetic propensities of the sexes, a legacy of our evolution. You don't re-engineer the social fabric without paying real close attention to the underlying reasons for its existence. Forcing unproven concepts on society is misguided and almost always detrimental; it undermines that fabric and the eventual result is unraveling of the stabilizing forces that make this Nation strong. Exactly what is happening at this time. Creating this amount of discord without seeing the long-term ramification is the hallmark of feminism.

Denise....
......elvis says 'hi'.

Rowly & Elvis
Denise....
......elvis says 'hi'.


Hi, my hommies! How are you guys?

geez
i think we have found the reason why rush has been divorced 3 times.

UNLIKE
UNLIKE HOMOSEXUALS AND PEDOPHILES AND RAPIST OF THE GAY COALITION ALL ARE MONSTERS.

Pope Roy I of IL

Your holiness, Papa, who cares if Rush has been divorced 25 times? I don't. Geeze. Excommunicate him. I'm sure that he will find another place to tithe part of his sizeable wealth.

Are you blaming his divorce on feminazis or on his past, admitted drug use?

He went into rehab and paid a whole lot of money, as well as suffering insults to his personal reputation. Tens of millions of Americans have undergone the same thing.

Can we use your dumptruck to haul a bunch of feminazis to rehab? Heck! I'll even burn my bra and wear a Peace sign.

Peace out, Pontiff. I need to go roll a doobie, burn my draft card and crank up Jimi Hendrix.

Pope Roy I of IL

Your Holiness, who cares how many times that Rush has been divorced? I don't. If you do, then excommunicate him already. I'm sure that he can find another place where to tithe 10% of his sizeable wealth.

Papa, are you blaming it on his past, admitted drug use? Well, like tens of millions of Americans, he went to rehab and paid a price both monetarily and in reputation.

Are you blaming it on feminazis? Well, then, you have me on your side on this one. Can we borrow your dump truck to haul them off to rehab or to Hades? Heck! I'll even burn my bra!

Peace out, Pontiff. It's time for me to go destroy my draft card, read Prairie Fire, roll a doobie, and crank up Jimi Hendrix.

Sorry For The Ditto-Post

The first Pope Roy got lost, for a time, in cyberspace.

Denise
elvis asked me to give you a'hug'. I think he has a 'thing' for you!!!

denise
you tell me. i'm sure rush is a great guy who's very easy to live with lol. you know what they probably were feninazis. i mean look at rush. whats not to like right? i haven't had a vision of being the pope since i did all that mescaline that one time. hey you won't bogart the weed right? i need a big hit for when the wind cries mary comes on. i don't have a dump truck but you all could pile in the back of my silverado.

Purple Haze In Our Brains
Roy:

"denise
you tell me. i'm sure rush is a great guy who's very easy to live with lol. you know what they probably were feninazis. i mean look at rush. whats not to like right? i haven't had a vision of being the pope since i did all that mescaline that one time. hey you won't bogart the weed right? i need a big hit for when the wind cries mary comes on. i don't have a dump truck but you all could pile in the back of my silverado. "

No, bogie am I; however, since I refrain from calling myself a feminazi, I'll ride shotgun in the Silverado.

BTW: I don't know why Rush divorced 3 times. I have no interest in "doing" Rush. I just listen to him online. Further, I have enough work living with young children. While I agree with Rush on the Fiscal Conservatism, the idea of living with Rush would cause me to ask to borrow your mescaline.

Mod Mark:

"All right Denise
"read Prairie Fire, roll a doobie, and crank up Jimi Hendrix. "

Now you're talking, I will bring over the 8-track tape of Hendrix! "

You've got it, but, maybe, roy has an 8-track player in the Silverado.

Rowly:

Denise
elvis asked me to give you a'hug'. I think he has a 'thing' for you!!!

Hug Elvis back for me and give yourself a big one from me, as well. I have a "thing" for ALL of my homeboys in 'hoods all over the Town Hall town!

Last comment for women haters
Some years ago, I worked with a woman who told me that 7 years previous to our friendship she had been grabbed on a warm summer night while out with another girlfriend, thrown into a car, taken to some isolated place and gang-raped, also beaten. When she was picked up, walking along the road afterwards, and taken to the nearest police station, she could only describe her attackers as wearing shirts with Athletic letters that represented a local high school, a very well-to do school with alot of rich families. The police accused her of "asking for it" by wearing a sleeveless blouse and bermuda shorts, which were in style at the time. she subsequently spent three days in the hospital and required four years of therapy.

This is the kind of incident that feminists like myself fought against, who wanted an essential repsect for women and their human rights. It's depressing that conservatives fin this so repulsive and unpleasant, and take a kind of strange pride in their dislike of women and apparently, pride in their abusers and rapists.

Denise, Roy, Patrick, et. al. -- I feel really sorry for your daughters, mothers, wives, and girlfriends. Let's hope they don't realize that there is a world out there for women who respect themselves and can be respected by others.

One more thought
I know you are all wishing, along with Adams, that you could have been one of those cops who humiliated and abused my friends, but I'm sure you get plenty of chances in your own lives.

Excuse Me, J. R.

"Denise, Roy, Patrick, et. al. -- I feel really sorry for your daughters, mothers, wives, and girlfriends."

J.R., did being shot and floating in a swimming pool face down at Southfork affect your ability to READ? I AM A FREAKING WOMAN. I have 2 sons, who are being raised to respect women and men. I have a mother, who believes exactly the same way that I do. I don't have a wife. I don't have a girlfriend. I LOVE men.

This is not about women being raped. It is about feminazis that drive an agenda, which only allows them to support women, who are of like minds. Do you think that NARAL would support a Pro-Life woman? Did NOW come out to decry the sexism in last year's election cycle? Did feminists take Monica Lewinsky's side or were they apologists for Bill Clinton?

Having practiced law for many years, I can tell you that the last people that you want on a jury where a woman is the plaintiff or victim are other women.

jr
how did i get dragged into this? i was being facetious about rush. me and denise have rarely agreed on anything lol. denise remember it was all a dream zzzzzzzzzzz.

denise.......hey wait a minute
I can't believe my buddy Rowly would blow the whistle on me..saying I have a thing about you?
Remember "honeybee", you said I was first in Line! I mean not every female is in ol' elvis's
sights! I played "aloha..elvis" one of the
first songs I noticed--BIG HUNK OF LOVE! GUESS WHO I THOUGHT OF.......!!
As for women...TREAT 'EM NICE,AND DON'T BE CRUEL!Most females will respond to kindness
in like manner!LOVE THEM TENDER,and display
your BURNING LOVE for them! I said most not all!
major issue: abortion- no, unless incest,rape
and the mothers life is on the line! Many years ago..one of the top authorities at BYU
(Brigham Young University) wife got PG and she was not real young and her health was very....
shaky! She went ahead and gave birth..and died!
Leaving several young children w/out their...
mother! The Prophet of our church says even those above mentioned allowances PRAY VERY HARD
before getting abortion!
TCB..
ELVIS

Denise
The rights of women have always been about equal rights, whether voting or protection from violence or equal pay. I'm sorry you think we're such ineffectual losers, but I've seen it before.

I worked long and hard years ago to get the laws on rape, domestic violence, equal pay, and all the rest changed and to raise the issues about inequality to the public at large. I'm sorry you find that so regrettable. Perhaps you wish we could back to 1940.

I'm well aware that you are female. Sorry that you have to adore men at the expense of women, I adore alot of men myself but I never saw it as a zero-sum game.


Elvis - Jungle Room Phone Is Busy
denise.......hey wait a minute
I can't believe my buddy Rowly would blow the whistle on me..saying I have a thing about you?
Remember "honeybee", you said I was first in Line! I mean not every female is in ol' elvis's
sights! I played "aloha..elvis" one of the
first songs I noticed--BIG HUNK OF LOVE! GUESS WHO I THOUGHT OF.......!!


Hey, my Hunk of Burning Love! I tried calling, but you must still be on the Jungle Room telephone with Rowly!!!

Love ya and agreed with the rest of your post.

J.R. - Female & Lawyer

"I worked long and hard years ago to get the laws on rape, domestic violence, equal pay, and all the rest changed and to raise the issues about inequality to the public at large. I'm sorry you find that so regrettable. Perhaps you wish we could back to 1940."

Yeah, and so have I. I have represented, counseled, and advised women legally for years. I don't want to go back to the 1940s, but I sure as heck would rather choose better advocates than the Gloria Steinem's of the world.

"I'm well aware that you are female. Sorry that you have to adore men at the expense of women, I adore alot of men myself but I never saw it as a zero-sum game."

It is not a zero-sum game. I love men and women (in a hetero way), but I am sick and tired of radicals of all stripes telling me what they think is good for me.

I want no part of feminazis that wish to force their agenda upon me. PERIOD.

DENISE....JUNGLE PHONE
HA HA HA HA HA!
YOU ARE ALWAYS ONE STEP AHEAD OF ME!
IAM IN LOVE W/YOUR BRAIN! WHO CAN PROTEST THAT TYPE OF LOVE?! smile.
If somebody would give me a p.o. box...I would send a picture of my ELVIS JACKET that gets all kind of raves! There is something inside of it!
smile.
Good night..
Elvis

Douglas is slipping.
Usually, he uses the words "dishonest", "hate", and "smear" all in the first sentence.

Is senility is creeping in?

He is a one string violin.

Dem...just to get back to you
Again, you are trying to make us women look like we are gettin over on you...just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean that all or even most women are out to get the male gender.

BTW, my ex has a job at the Post Office (gives a whole new meaning to going postal doesn't it.) He only has this job because there are people there that lie and cover up for him because he whines about how both his wives have left him. He makes close to 50,000.00 a year and because he is full time it is practically impossible to fire him...again he lied. He has been in the hospital three times. So I know that you have a brother with a serious condition but at least you will recognize that, his parents still think that he is a safe person around the children because he would never hurt them "physically". Again, I lived with the man you did not...until you walk in my shoes please stop assuming that all women on this site are in the stats you cite. Sorry, it makes you sound like a whining brat.

ADLoggy, save time and effort
On 2009/03/05 04:18 you wrote " Dr Douglas on Mikes analogy--Dr. Douglas, Let me break down Mike's analogy for you as you seem to have under-analysed it:"

"Dr" DouglASS, much like svirk (correct name sjerk) is only able to shill, never to analyse.

For RichD @ 2009/03/05 23:59 actually, Douglass is a vacuum-violin (see comic strip "Funky Winkerbean" on Crazy Harry's "Air Guitar") rather than a one-stringer.

Also, Fred makes an ironically truthful statement that the groat blogs "are in no imminent danger of being outwitted"--that's like comparing an oxcart (groat blog such as Huffpuke) with a Lime-green Pacer (oxcart driver will be blinded in a cloud of dust,...).

(since I happened to be listening to the song "Lime-green Pacer", I used that model for the comparison)

pope roy asked @ 2009/03/05 22:58
"jr how did i get dragged into this?"

You created an ID on TH to spew groat trash!

RICH D.---LONG TIME NO CHAT?
How are things in Pa.?

Is it my imagination...or is it true this land
is becoming fast track to the heap?

One string violin?! smile.

I like that!
Elvis
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