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Tuesday, April 22, 2008
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Five Great Cigars and Why I Smoke Them
by Mike Adams
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  1. Padron 7000 Maduro. This 6&1/4-inch x 60-ring cigar is a medium to full-bodied smoke with a rich and unique flavor. It is best described as a dominant coffee flavor with a smooth cocoa flavor for added complexity.

My suit against UNCW is going well. The university was fortunate enough to get a federal judge (to hear their motion to dismiss the case) with an astronomically high rate of dismissal. They were probably feeling pretty confident. But, unfortunately for them, confidence is sometimes misplaced. Despite the unfavorable circumstances, I won easily. The judge said that my case is “ripe for adjudication.” Previously, an angry feminist had logged on to my Amazon.com page and said my case had been dismissed. That was wishful thinking. Welcome to reality. And let the depositions begin.

Naturally, I celebrated the legal victory with a Padron 7000.

  1. Oliva “V” Double Toro. This 6-inch by 60-ring cigar is also medium to full-bodied. It has hints of spice on top of a coffee and dark chocolate flavor. I should have said full to medium bodied as it becomes a little less strong midway through the smoke. It is, however, smooth throughout.

The University of St. Thomas was deluged with phone calls and emails after I ran an article criticizing the university administration for refusing to allow Star Parker to speak amid concerns of “discomfort.” This was after a transvestite was allowed to speak at this “Catholic” institution of hire [sic?] learning. Thanks to my readers and to the heroic efforts of the Young America’s Foundation the university relented and Parker will be allowed to speak.

Naturally, I celebrated with an Oliva “V.” The “V” stands for victory.

  1. Rocky Patel Edge Battalion Maduro. This fat 6-inch by 60-ring maduro has a rich, dark wrapper. It is sweet and spicy with a dark chocolate flavor. This cigar seems a bit more tame (medium to full bodied) than the smaller torpedo version I reviewed a couple of years ago.

A guy wrote to me recently with an interesting story about how he started reading my columns. Apparently, he was offended by one of my column titles – this was back in 2004. He got angry and read the article. Then, somehow, he got hooked on the articles. One of them suggested it was cowardly to remain stuck in a mode of agnosticism. He agreed and started studying theology. Upon my recommendation, he read “I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist.” Then, he converted to Christianity.

His letter said “I cannot thank you enough. You saved my soul.” Of course, that isn’t true. My mother helped save my soul. Her mother helped save hers. But it all goes back to a Jewish carpenter who died a couple of thousand years ago.

I celebrated my reader’s conversion with an Edge. Jesus would have liked the Edge. After all, he lived on the Edge.

  1. Romeo Y Juliet “Aniversario” Toro. This is yet another medium to full bodied recommendation. It is the richest cigar on this list with a wonderful cedar taste and aroma. This 6-inch by 56-ring also burns a little faster than any on this list. The draw and construction are both superb.

I love free guns. One of my readers – a wonderful attorney from Grand Rapids, Michigan – sent me a free Model 94 Winchester lever action chambered in .375 Winchester. As if that weren’t cool enough another reader gave me a Sig Sauer P229 chambered in 9mm.

I spent some of the money I saved from my gun budget on a box of Romeos. I bought some bullets, too.

  1. Rocky Patel Edge Sumatra Toro. This is a full bodied cigar with a fantastic hardwood taste and aroma. The 6-inch 52-ring version has surpassed the Edge Corojo as my favorite by Rocky Patel. There are about thirty of these aging in my humidor right now.

There’s a fellow who’s been writing nasty messages to me ever since he saw one of my speeches on CSPAN in July of 2006. His messages have often been very hostile. He even attacked me once after I suffered the loss of a child to a miscarriage. The urge to track down this seemingly bitter old man has been pretty overwhelming at times. But, over the last few months, his messages to me have been losing their edge.

This man used to take the position that “religion spoils everything.” His first several dozens emails were characterized by a pathological fear of Christianity. But, just a few days ago, after reading my column “The Prisoner” he wrote the following: “Thank you. It is a shame that some extremists have to spoil religion for everyone.

This man is probably only a few short months away from accepting Christ. When he does, I’ll smoke an Edge Sumatra. Then I’ll smoke another “V” for victory.

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Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.
 
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It is no particular surprise
that you have the obnoxious habit of smoking
cigars.

Holy smoke, Viruddh...
That's the best you can do as a response to the article? Professor Adams makes several strong points here, but those sail right overhead while you focus on smoke.

It's no wonder liberals love BHO--libs have a pathological attraction to smoke and mirrors.

HarleyMan
And just what are those strong points? That he
loves free guns, and he hates feminists.

I'm impressed.

You Make Me Wish
That I had not stopped smoking. I thoroughly enjoy your columns, and have yet to see one that does not make 5 stars. I look forward to each.

love the article
I don't smoke, but have nothing against those who do, (except the almost universal habit they have of sharing their Butts with the world), I love the way the cigars were presented and a great story with each. Happy smoking Mr. Adams, may you have many terrific cigars to savor. May each one be accompanied with another victorious story.

Good Cigars
I may have to pick up a box of the Romeo Y Juliet “Aniversario” Toro. I have smoked Romeo Y Juliet before but not that model. At $150 for 25 it is a bit pricey for me.

Rocky Patel is always a good smoke.

I have recently enjoyed several of the Gurkha brand cigars, but my current favorite is the more moderately priced Vegas 5 'A' although I was not impressed with the other Vegas 5 products.

I was also not overly impressed with the rest of Mr Adams column which seemed more like a BLOG on his personal life then a reflection and argument on current political or social issues. He usually writes a much better column.

As I have 39 days left before I leave Iraq I am going to get the best smoke I can for my last day here.

Tinsldr2@yahoo.com


To Will
That was a cool post. Thanks.

Free guns?
Where can I get those? My guns were all very expensive and I'm not rich.

Doug
But at lest they, like gold and unlike the dollar, gain in value.

Well, in truth, they mostly retain value, but a few of mine are actually ahead of the dollars I spent on them.

Don't smoke. Period.
I wasn't going to read the article, I just wanted to see if even a column on cigars would draw the usual "hate" crowd. Apparently, some people survive just to post on Dr. Adams columns. I'm guessin their fragile worlds would cave in on them if they weren't among the first posters here.

Thanks, Dr. Adams, for sharing the story of the lamb who was restored to the fold. Truly a time for celebration!

Wow, ModMark, where's ...
your mind?

ModMark
Freud once said "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...", but apparently that doesn't apply to you?

mighty white of them
"The University of St. Thomas was deluged with phone calls and emails after I ran an article criticizing the university administration for refusing to allow Star Parker to speak amid concerns of “discomfort.” This was after a transvestite was allowed to speak at this “Catholic” institution of hire [sic?] learning. Thanks to my readers and to the heroic efforts of the Young America’s Foundation the university relented and Parker will be allowed to speak."

That was mighty white of them to allow a black conservative to speak.

Will
Classy comments.

Thanks.

Will, your tone today...
...is most refreshing. Keep it up and you will win friends here who can disagree with you agreeably.

Jesus Christ
I've just started reading your articals the past couple of weeks. Thank you for sharing your cigar and Jesus Christ with us. This is what America needs more of. A good smoke and hope for the future. I'll see if I can help speed up the conversion of the extremists with a little extra prayer. Its amazing what prayer can do.

ModMark
Hmmm.....I remember a few months ago, you commended me on my taste in beer as well as taste in cigars.

Now, you come out and offer a criticism of Adams' article by stating that cigars "are a phallic symbol."

We have had arguments before, sometimes fairly hostile, but you always stuck to your argument.

I am surprised by this flip-flop.

Is it that you like cigars, unless someone you dislike writes about them, in which case you criticize him because you can't possibly agree with anything he likes?

Just trying to understand you, ModMark. Admittedly, it is difficult when you say one thing on one occasion and the opposite on another occasion.

Nagging
Smoking does have natural consequences. My grandfather smoked cigars(outside) and only made it to 67. Much loved and very missed. I'm sure your writing and thoughts will grow richer as you age. Hate to miss out on that.

Joycey and others
I have researched cigar smoking fairly extensively over the last year.

One of the "facts" I found from many different sources is that an occasional cigar, say one cigar a week (also assuming that the cigar is correctly smoked - cigars are not inhaled, rather the smoke remains in the mouth so that the flavor can be enjoyed), poses no significant or statistical risk to one's health.

I smoke a rare cigar and enjoy the experience. It's been about two months since my last one.

The key, as with most anything, is moderation. Smoking several cigars a day would probably pose significant health risks. Smoking one a week, or (like me) one a month is really no danger at all.

Cigars
Ah, Mike! Where to start? The liberal trolls can only whine about their distaste for cigars today. Even Will is flummoxed and reduced to consulting his "Dictionary of Cliched French Phrases" to render his post. I was in Gatlinburg over Easter weekend. I enjoyed a late evening stroll down the Smoky Mountain Parkway with a CAO Gold Maduro in hand. I smoke rarely and it is a special pleasure that I share with my sons who observe moderation as well. Thanks for sharing your smoking pleasures and, even more, your valid reasons for celebration.

moose, gotta admit, ...
that was funny! I'll be even SamIAm himself will like that one!

Great article...
...and "Thank You!" for the cigar recommendations!

this is a retread
Adams wrote about his choice in cigars some time ago. Now he’s refitted it to be a venue for his supposed accomplishments. I wrote once that Dr. Adams tends to blow his own horn from time to time. After all, he’s devoted articles to his skill as a hunter, his talent as a musician and his youthful athletic abilities. Yet while he acknowledges his youthful indiscretions, drug use, failure to serve his country in any way, atheism, worshiping a psychologist and calling his mother immoral, he refuses to grant today’s young people the same understanding that he, himself required.

Now, I admit that I am a critic of Dr. Adams and often see the bad side rather than the good. One thing I would like to hear from his many fans and supporters who feel inclined to respond, is just what do you think the point or message of this article is?

Curtal Friar, just asking,...
isn't there an increased risk of cancer in the mouth? I've heard that people who chew tobacco are at increased risk for gum cancer. I'm guessing the "moderation" part is the caveat. Still, I'd think there would be some elevated risk, however slight it may be.

Whatta wunnerful blend!
Of wit and truth. I had a crush on Florence King -- How could you NOT love a witty gal who smokes cigars? But that was then and I quit smoking decades ago.

Being a "straight" I have no crush on the young prof, but he IS witty, has a great sense of humor, probably quality humidors, and it sounds like he's having fun. And he speaks the truth.

Right On! Bro!

Jis' don't git lip cancer frm alla them fine ceegars!

MikeR, wise is the person ...
who can learn from the mistakes of others. Granted, Dr. Adams can be a bit hard on people with views that are opposite his. But I view the sharing of life's lessons as an opportunity to measure one's own life to a different standard.

If you agree with the life lesson shared, it is a chance for one to re-calibrate one's life to a different standard. This may help the individual yield a better harvest in the future.

As to the point of the article? Sometimes you read things just because you enjoy the style of the author and it's entertaining. Like I said earlier, I came here just to read the comments, which can be a form of entertainment all by itself. Some posters are so predictable, that they rarely disappoint in giving amusement.

Mike R
Sometimes, Mike, the point is to make no point. It's a Zen thing, and something only a cigar smoker would understand: subdue all thoughts, taste the flavor of the cigar, open the mind to the Supreme Self, and then be prepared to let the good times roll.

Cigar smokers also tend not to take themselves too seriously; just the contraposition of the modern day Puritan.

Don, the Fuente man.

HarleyMan
I do love when the whackos vent about cigars. Then they go right down to their basement and smoke some pot which studies have shown to be as bad or worse than cigarrettes for your health. I'm sure the irony is lost on them.

FROG
As I stated, and you echoed, it's all a matter of moderation.

Because cigar smoke is not inhaled, rather kept in the mouth for the flavor, they don't have the health risk that cigarettes have. Also, cigarettes are addictive, whereas cigars aren't.

If you smoked cigars a lot, you would indeed have health risks. But, according to all the medical sources I read (to make sure about my own health risks), if you smoke cigars at the rate of one per week or less often, you don't have a risk more significant than a non-smoker. I smoke about one per month, so I really have no worries.

Of course, if you smoked several cigars a day, you would be at risk. However, given the price of cigars, that is not affordable unless you're rich.

I myself like a fine Cohiba cigar, but as they cost $16 or more per cigar, I can't justify more than one a month.

MikeR
Are you kidding? What is the point? Dr. Adams enjoys cigars and rewards himself with them when he has reason to celebrate. What is so difficult about that? Time to trash the blinders, MikeR. Don't be a hater.

Will and Mike Adams....
Will, your post today was great. I rarely agree with you, but this shows that you are not one dimensional. Thanks for showing us your nicer side.

Mike, I was a smoker and enjoyed tobacco except for snuff and chew. Cigars were a special treat, but I couldn't afford (didn't even know about) the really good stuff.

That all changed in October 1970. I was in Walter Reed Army Hospital for back surgery. After surgery I was shuffling around the corridors like Tim Conway's barber character to get some movement back. I chanced upon an entire ward of smokers--more accurately, previous smokers--who had their voice boxes removed, bloody gauze still covering the incisions. What a jolt! I quit smoking right there, and have never regretted it for a moment. I'm probably still alive because of quitting.

My point? I have no problem with you or any adult smoking, just sorry for the health problems it could cause them. I guess reformed smokers are a pain. But using your column to praise smoking is not the best way to persuade young people not to take up the habit. We will never know if a nonsmoking youngster took up the habit because of your praise of cigars, but even one would be too many.

I enjoy your columns, especially the ones exposing nutty university faculty and staff. Seems that is most of them nowadays.

Cheers,

There is nutnfinr than living in North Carolina!

Tedmug
MikeR does not enjoy life as much as MikeA. He (MikeR) sits in front of his computer with a list of all the things MikeA has done that he (MikeR) does not like. Then he waits for MikeA to post a column. Then he tries to convince others to not like MikeA - to join him in his rather silly existence.

That is his contribution to society. There is probably more hope for Will than for MikeR.


Cigars, guns and reformed liberals
What a great article, replete with some of my favorite subjects: Cigars, guns, and a few intolerant liberals who saw the light. Keep up the great work!

Curtal
Well, my favorite is a Partagas #4 and if I am feeling really wealthy, an Opus X. Indeed, everything in moderation!

nutnfinr
I agree that their are heinous health risks associated with tobacco. I counsel my patients about them. Tobacco is not the problem. Addiction is the problem. I am not splitting hairs. Our society is roughly divided into two camps on this issue. On the one side we have the addicts with their health problems, on the other side we have the abstainers with their ascetic lifestyles. What we do not have is a voice for the middle ground. We do not have a cultural basis for it because of our division over it. The abstainers believe that they have a Biblical argument. They do not. Don't get me wrong, I believe in the Bible, it just does not teach an ascetic lifestyle. The addicts become addicts in the beginning because there is a large peer group who lend an aura of acceptability to the frequent use of tobacco. This post is too long for all the good it will do but what have we accomplished when we feel we must rob life of all its simple, innocent pleasures. I lobby for moderation not addiction.

Dead and gone
Hey---you're going to die of something!! It's inevitable----sit back--relax--enjoy the ride!

mikescott
Word.

tedmug...
Thanks for your thoughtful response.

The problem as I see it is that moderation can lead to addiction, ala pot as a gateway to stronger and more dangerous drugs.

I started with corn silks, rabbit tobacco, fig leaves and other flammables as a child after seeing my father smoke Camels from my infancy. I then graduated to Camels, King Size Wings, Chesterfields, Luckies in the green pack, Pall Malls, and anythings else that had nicotine. Tried a cigar once as a child, was sick for three days. Tried chewing--argh! Never got the nerve to try snuff.

My concern is that modeling smoking and making it sound like fun is a way to encourage youngsters to try smoking with the likelyhood that they will become addicted. I did. Thankfully, our two daughters, their spouses and children do not smoke.

Cheers

Will??
I do not see a comment posted by Will. Did it get taken down because it was too "classy" and "nice"?

Celebrate Earth Day
Click on my name or cut and paste this link fountainabbey.blogtownhall.com and go to my blog for some tips on how to celebrate Earth Day in as politically incorrect a manner as possible.

Liberals and eco-freaks are welcome as well, though be warned, your delicate constitutions may not be able to handle the satire and humor contained there in.

Have a great day all!

Dr. Adams
You have a great sense of humor. Thanks for the chuckles today. I needed them.

nutnfinr
Thanks for the response. To elaborate my point I would say that most young folks who initiate smoking are modeling smokers who are addicts. This is what they see as normal. Our culture does not have a large group who model moderation. I am not sure that young people who watch adults use tobacco sparingly, adults who acknowledge, that is, teach that they do so out of respect for their health, would necessarily become addictive users. I personally know many people who use tobacco in a very controlled way. They use alcohol similarly. It can be done and it is done by many. How can they do this if the substances, alcohol or tobacco, render their users helpless to resist? Our understanding of addiction is not a closed subject it is debatable, in my opinion. I respect your experiences and your concern. Thanks.

nutnfinr
Partner, you just gave away your age. If you remember Lucky Strike in a green pack, you must remember the sales pitch when they went to white, "Lucky Strike Goes To War". And the other stuff you say you smoked brought back some long lost memories. I, too, remember those things, and I'm 3 days older than dirt.

But I'm glad I didn't ever get really into cigars, it's kinda like lighting a $20 dollar bill, and watching it burn. But, Dr. Adams, I really enjoy all your columns, the only thing wrong is that there not enough of them.

And nutnfnr, it would be fun to sit with you and get nostalgic.

The Old Coot ( how do you like the way I cleaned that one up?)

viruddh writes:
It is no particular surprise
that you have the obnoxious habit of smoking
cigars.

So? It is no particular surprise to us
that you keep coming back here boring us with your same old tired and vile spew. And yet you do.
P.S.
Tinsldr2 I have o couple of Habano Cristales if you have a PO box (BG)

Extend Bush Tax Cuts
One of the hidden blessings of the Bush Tax Cuts is that real Americans can buy more fine cigars, aged whiskey, SUV's and guns. There is simply no down side to lower taxes.

Frog
I understand your point exactly. I continue to read Dr. Adams because of the lively threads. Furthermore, I agree that some of the posters both pro and con, are predictable and amusing. Do you think Mike wrote it just for our entertainment?

Don: I think I know what you mean. There have been times, particularly in the fall after a good dinner, when sitting out on the front porch with a cigar has felt perfect. I think that was Zen. I think Mike tends to be somewhat of a puritan, though.

The point of
all of Dr. Adams columns is liberals think freedom is for me and not for thee.

They bleat particularly loud about Dr. Adams because he beats them at their own game.

tedmug
I would accept you reasoning if this wasn’t a reprint of his cigar article now interplayed with tales of Mike’s resent personal victories and successes. If you were discussing cigars with your neighbors or co-workers would you associate it with a chance to brag about yourself?

Perhaps it’s time for you to trash the blinders and not be a sycophant.

MikeR
Since, in your world, it is acceptable to repeat your arguments without clarification or expansion or, for that matter, any enrichment of common sense, I will stoop to your level and just repeat, "Don't be a hater." Don't hate the man just because you can't be him. By the way, what you call bragging is prose intended to provoke the likes of you into posting your irrational rants. Thanks for complying. Yours truly.

mikescott
What an odd set of conclusions. How do you know how I feel about like, since I never discuss it? For that matter, how can you make comparisons between Mike Adams and me since you know both of us only by these threads. In fact, MikeA spends much more time in front of his computer with a list of things others have done that he doesn’t like than I do. He does it for profit and I do it for pleasure. It seems I’m one up on him there as far as pleasure. Furthermore, I don’t try to convince others of anything. I challenge them to examine there own thoughts. This probably confuses you since you rarely have any thoughts of you own and simple agree with all Dr. Adams says and insult anyone who doesn’t.

I’m satisfied with my existence and contributions to society. The irony is that you are the one like Will who thoughtlessly lashes out in reflex. Only Will at least tries to make a point where you seem to only offer insults.

As always, I entreat you to actually join in the debate. In this case, I am saying that Adams is using a reprint of an article as a vehicle of self praise. The 2 basic responses are:

1) No, he is no and why you think so.

2) He is but there is nothing wrong with such self praise and why you think so.

And as always I thank you for proving my point. In this case it’s that some of the posters both pro and con, are predictable and amusing in the way they react instead of think.


MikeR and mikescott
Dear MikeR,
Have you considered that mikescott is Dr.Mike Adams? Mike S. Adams? Get it?
Yours truly,

Curtal Friar, Cohiba?
Tsk, tsk. A friend in Canada came down for a visit recently. He shared a Cohiba or two with some friends. I asked him how he felt about being a smuggler. Of course, I ribbed him about it in a good natured way. Still, they are contraband here in the US, regardless of your views on the US policy towards Cuba.

PS- just yankin' your chain.

Ohio Saba, you're right!
I just looked up and realized you're right. What DID happen to Will's post? He came in #2 again (no pun intended) with his post right behind (again no pun intended) viurddh. I don't understand why it would have been taken down.

Hmmm, one wonders.

tedmug, mikescott is NOT...
Mike S. Adams. The S is for Sam. Dr. Adams posts here under the pseudonym SamIAm. Hang around. He sometimes posts after the noon hour. I'm guessin' it's his lunch time.

Whatever happened to Will?
Maybe he and his post were taken in the Rapture.

Okay, I admit it, ...
I'm a bit slow. I just realized, could Dr. Adams be THE Sam Adams of the Sam Adams beer fame? Naaaah, beer and guns don't mix.

FROG
Psst! I know this; just don't tell MikeR.

Say, Coot.....
I was born the year that Rooseveldt started his first term. My frist six years were spent in a house with no electricity, running water, heat by fireplace. You could count the chickens through the cracks in the floor. I'm the 7th of 8, 6 still living to age 90. Those were not the good old days, unless you count neighbors helping neighbors, low crime, good people.

It would be a hoot to chat with you. I was born in rural west TN. Where were you born?

nutnfinr

tedmug
It is quite possible that Adams is intentionally provocative. That is a reasonable way to increase readership. It also makes much more sense than “Dr. Adams enjoys cigars and rewards himself with them when he has reason to celebrate”. I have no idea what you find repetitive of irrational, especially since I put the question to you a second time and received a completely different answer.

Perhaps I misunderstood what the term “hater” means. I took it to mean “a disagreeable or contrary person” As such; I don’t see how I’m more of hater than you. I refer to you as sycophantic because I can’t recall you ever disagreeing with Adams where I have agreed with him a few times this year.

As with mikescott, I entreat you too, to actually answer the questions I ask or take time to address the merits of my analysis.



Guys
I don’t think SamIAm is Dr. Adams. SamIAm once invited me to meet halfway between DE and NC to “find out how much of a man” I am. I think it referred to fighting and not comparing the lengths of our penises. Dr. Adams, since his initial brush with his administration many years ago, has said that the never offers threats of violence in emails and other correspondence. Furthermore, that has never been any confirmation of the identity of SamIAm by Dr. Adams; and that would be a very simple thing.

smokes
I smoked several packs of Luckies every day for many years.
After a heart attack and the hospital confinement-I quit smoking cold turkey.
At 71 years old and about 15 years of smoke free life-I still miss the taste and smell - no one else does - but I do.
I'm not sure it's worth the quitting-
What I could do without is the sanctimonious smugness of those oppposed to tobacco. It seems that most of these "committed religionists"-and that's what they've become are also obese, heavy drinkers, and out of shape.
oh--the heart attack was caused by a moving clot as a result of an accident.
So much for sanctimony--ughhhh!

Dear MikeR
Why does Dr. Adams have to be either provocative or practical? Are you saying that he cannot be both at the same time? Mike Adams is a complex man. Very complex. He can pull it off. If sycophantic means that I enjoy his writing style, his writing content, his values that I share in common with him, and his faith in God, then I must be a sycophant. But I do not think that is what you meant. I think that you meant to insult me. I am having too much fun to take the insult. I might add that your original post was insulting to him. For this you wish for TLC?

Frog
I don't smoke Cuban cigars, mostly because I don't feel like paying the legal penalty for so doing.

However, there are many Cohibas that are not Cuban made that are excellent cigars.

I can't think of the maker off the top of my head, but there's a really good Cigar with a dark wrapper for around $18 that's really good. I only smoke them on special occasions, though, as that is too expensive for more often that that. Hell, I can go to the movie theater and almost be able to get popcorn for that price.

Some faves of mine
Include the Ashton 898, Fuente Canone (when I have time to properly enjoy one), ANY of the Hemingway Series but not so much the Short Story, Pargagas #3, and a nice Rocky Patel.

-Ray


Curtal Friar, oops,
my ignorance is showing! I thought Cohiba was strictly a Cuban brand. Sorry!

Lemon, you should be impressed
Lemonade writes: Tuesday, April, 22, 2008 12:48 AM
HarleyMan
And just what are those strong points? That he
loves free guns, and he hates feminists.

I'm impressed.
_______________________________

Lemon, the strong points in the article are that HE IS KICKING THE LIBS'/LEFTIES' ARSES, AND VIOLENTLY TOO. How did you miss that?

Good for you, Mike!!!! Keep up the good work!!!! And keep us informed--it is very enjoyable to watch the Lemons express their confusion.

Lemon, you should be impressed
Lemonade writes: Tuesday, April, 22, 2008 12:48 AM
HarleyMan
And just what are those strong points? That he
loves free guns, and he hates feminists.

I'm impressed.
_______________________________

Lemon, the strong points in the article are that HE IS KICKING THE LIBS'/LEFTIES' ARSES, AND VIOLENTLY TOO. How did you miss that?

Good for you, Mike!!!! Keep up the good work!!!! And keep us informed--it is very enjoyable to watch the Lemons express their confusion.

Lemon, you should be impressed
Lemonade writes: Tuesday, April, 22, 2008 12:48 AM
HarleyMan
And just what are those strong points? That he
loves free guns, and he hates feminists.

I'm impressed.
_______________________________

Lemon, the strong points in the article are that HE IS KICKING THE LIBS'/LEFTIES' ARSES, AND VIOLENTLY TOO. How did you miss that?

Good for you, Mike!!!! Keep up the good work!!!! And keep us informed--it is very enjoyable to watch the Lemons express their confusion.

I don't know what's up with ...
the censor police, but they're out in force today. I noticed that mooses post was yanked as well. While the post was not morally upstanding, I though it was amusing more than offensive. Just what DOES pass as offensive around here, anyway? Sheesh!

Speaking of cigars
Does anyone remember the Three Stooges in the episode when the Union General throws his cigar butt on the ground and the boys dive on it and each one comes up smoking a cigar butt? I wonder what that brand was.

By show of hands ...
who among you found mooses comment offensive? Just trying to weed out the overly prudish, that's all.

Show of hands
Offensive? I can't really say because I didn't get it. Must be my conservative upbringing. TIC.

I was
just toying with mike's emotions....but maybe the truth hurts??

Well moose, you know what they say ...
"A little's a lot if it's all you got."

FROG and the rest
Just read through the posts and am wondering what I missed. Can anyone summarize the posts of Will and moose for me? I think a ModMark post got yanked too.

AFM

tedmug
Mike Adams doesn’t have to be anything. You are the one who said he was being provocative. I was agreeing that you may be right and saying that there is a practical side to it as well. And of course he is complex. Most people are but don’t know how to express it. Adams is an accomplished writer and college professor. Of course he knows how to express himself, but what has that got to do with the matter at hand?

I’ve said before that I think he is a boastful person and I offer this article as another example. That has been my only point on this thread. By sycophant, I mean you agree with everything he has ever written, simply that. Do you disagree? Do you recall ever disagreeing with Adams? You think I’m wearing blinders and am disagreeing for no good reason. I say you are wearing blinders and agreeing for no good reason. Our opinions are the same, just on opposite sides. I’m not asking for TLC. I’m asking you to consider my point and if you disagree, say why.

folks
I don’t think anyone should be censored. I think all comments should be open for all to see. I don’t recall anything offensive on this thread from anyone. What did moose say that was so bad?

MikeR
I just flagged your 1:31 post as offensive.

Just kidding.

My take on the point of the article
I think that Dr. Adams wanted to share with his readers some of his recent victories in the "culture wars". Rather than give us a laundry list, he decided to intersperse his achievements with a discussion of fine cigars. This was used as a vehicle to convey a bit of humor.

Of course, I could have missed some deeper meaning as I am a very superficial person.

BTW, I've never smoked (as in no cigarettes, pipes, cigars, etc.) but Dr. Adams almost makes me want to give cigars a try. Hey, maybe that was the point of the article!

AFM

Finally
Adams had something 6 inches in his hand.

That was my previous post that was yanked....
(tongue-in-cheek and obviously referring to his cigar story, not his (ahem) "man-hood".

FROG
Funny!

MikeR
Is that it then? Your whole reason for existing on this board today is to say that Mike Adams is boastful and you are using today's column as proof? Is that it? This is the source of your animus? This is his great sin? I just don't know what to say to someone who can read his article and can only say that Mike Adams is "a boastful person." This is my answer and let me say that I believe it to be the equal to your premise and the analysis that brought you to it. This is my answer, "Is not!"

Flagging
Moose, I think Lilly flagged it.

I'm just guessing
but with his anal-retentive attributes and over-sized ego, I'm just guessing there's some compensation going on.

MikeR
I appreciate the update on the UNCW suit, and the situation at the University of St. Thomas. It is nice to know that even institutions of "higher" learning will bow to public pressure when their hypocrisy is exposed.

I also appreciate hearing that at least one person, and possibly another have accepted Christ as their savior due at least in part to Mike's column.

If Mike was drawing attention to himself, he probably wouldn't have said, "His letter said “I cannot thank you enough. You saved my soul.” Of course, that isn’t true."

I disagree with you because I think Mike understands that the readers who appreciate what he writes would appreciate an update on some of the various issues that he becomes involved with. In this case, at least, he was correct.

CH

tedmug
My whole reason to be on this thread today and every other day on any of the threads I read is to consider what the author has written and comment accordingly. My comment may in turn evoke a response from others. I consider what they wrote and offer an expansion or rebuttal. That is intellectual discourse, and I enjoy it. I like examining the way people think. Subsequently, I have on rare occasions been forced to agree with people with whom I’ve never agreed before, including Mike Adams.

I’m getting the impression that all of this escapes you somehow. You can read a columnist like Mike in many places; but here at TH we have the opportunity to interact. After all, why are you here, just to say how wonderful the article is?

Yes, Mike loves cigars; he has written about them before. I like them also; but this is about more than just cigars. I believe that your answer is “Is not!” and that you “believe it to be the equal to [my] premise and the analysis that brought [me] to it.” Now, do you think you can explain why you feel that way?

AF Major, moose did it again, ..
this time at 1:45pm.

Oooooh, moose, you're gonna get it, you're gonna get it.... (said in my best childish voice)

Actually, Will was cordial, polite, and on topic. I thought I was gonna need AED to jumpstart my heart.

ModMark used the cigar part of this article to harken an embarrassing moment in our nations history by alluding to some possible symbolisms of cigars, ala Bill Clinton.

I probably risk the rath of the censors just for bringing it up. Well, if I get booted, I'll come back as some a FROG of a different sort.

Nice knowing all of you (wink!)!

MikeR
(Uh-oh, he is using the debating tactic of patronization mixed with dim-witted ignorance and tinctured with a bit of denial. More like a great deal of denial. What to do? How about this? Quit wasting your time on this hopeless, boring liberal and go keep your haircut appointment. Hey, sounds like a plan, but play it cool.)

Hey MikeR, Uh, your superior reasoning skills and masterful writing have left me with no other recourse but to leave the field in humiliation. I yield to your massive, masterful powers of debate and hope that I never have to face you on this board again.

( That should do it. These guys are so easy.)

Thanks FROG
Sure wish I could have read Will's post, then.

On an aside, do you use all-caps for your username because it is an acronym, as in Fully Relying On God? My daughter has that bracelet.

AFM

tedmug
Now the irony here is that you accused me earlier of being irrational and a “hater”. The truth is that you are the one being an irrational hate. More importantly is that while you joke about it, there is a ring of truth. You seem to be completely unable to counter my position or defend yours. One could conclude that you are a sycophant and the only reason you disagree with me is that I disagreed with one of your idols. How pathetic. That’s not conservatism. What you are doing is exactly what any liberal like will does when cornered.
All I have tried to politely explain my self to someone who doesn’t even realize what they wrote themselves. What a hater.

Mike Adams Redux
Up here in Canada it's hard to get a decent cigar, so I just smoke a nice Canadian Original only available on Canada's Aboriginal reserves.

What I like most about dr. Adams stories is when he gets those wimin's groups all hot and bothered when he tears into their faulty ideology and man hating ways.

Seems to me if there wasn't a few men around to provide wimin with stud services the world would be a pretty lonely place.

I guess those wimin think us men are useful idiots. Ahh, time for a nice smoke.

AF Major - BINGO!
Yes, it's an acronym. I think you're the first person to ask me that in the couple years I've been here on TH. Although I've heard that it is "Fully Reliant".

MAW, I'm not sure where you ...
are, but my friend in Vancouver, B.C., is able to purchase the aforementioned Cohiba Cuban cigars. Is it not available where you are or does Canada have different import rules for the various provinces?

FROG
" my friend in Vancouver, B.C., is able to purchase the aforementioned Cohiba Cuban cigars. Is it not available where you are or does Canada have different import rules for the various provinces?"

I think the USA is the only one with the trade embargo on Cuba - therefore, Cuban cigars are legal throughout Canada as far as I know.

MikeR
"...what do you think the point or message of this article is?"

Who cares? I got some good cigar recommendations. What's it to ya?

Mike Adams
I actually enjoyed this article, it was cleverly written. Also, it makes me crave a cigar now!

It's not PC for a woman to smoke a cigar unfortunately but I do enjoy the smell. I should say...it's not PC for anyone to smoke anything anywhere anymore!

Hey, how about fighting the good fight on smoking bans?

OK
Ok I will say this; Mike is to the point and sorry for his views or his faith..... I have enjoyed his columns for 3 years or better. I am LDS and he is well less than nice when bashing my religion (not my faith though, well maybe) but I am always impressed whit his well laid out arguments and his total faith in Jesus Christ.... Maybe one day he will see that Latter Day Saints (Mormons) who he has said he has known are people whith High Morals and Live Lives that are Noteworhty might not be as far away for Christ as He belives we are. I Love Jesus Christ but at times in my life I have not been as voacal as I should have been. So I do find some insperation in his forward and direct statements. Enough Said. OH YEA he is not all that good at responding to emails though; maybe mine are not hatefull enough. Mike remember your STANDING ORDERS!

Cigars, Guns, and do you ride Harley's?
Mike, I love reading your columns when possible. Smoking cigars too! Just came back from a Hilton Head vacation where it was a two-a-day Comacho Triple Maduro 60/6 Fest.

Keep battling with UNCW. Universities and education in general is getting away with brainwashing students by not allowing conservative speaker on campus, and if they do, the speaker is shouted down, and forced off.

Gun control for law abiding citizens is getting insane. I let my carry permit lapse over 25 years ago, and to get it back is a nightmare up here in the Northeast.

Keep up your good work!

Still no Toscanellis listed?!
Guess you missed my comments on this subject last year. True, since they started cranking them out by machine back in '48, they have less-distinct knuckles( less arthritic, so to speak) but one could still carry a few in a hip pocket, drive around in a pick-up for hours,and lose none of their barbed-wire-bodied bouquet and buzz. They're only about 3" long, so the goat lives all the way to the end, with maybe a hint of poultry finish. I don't know from "rings." Learn to make a statement, man. Otherwise: Good read. Good message.

I'm not an expert but...
I don't think any of the cigars listed are Cubans. I am holding in my hand my last Partagas Habana while waiting for resupply. How about reviewing how that cigar rates with those on your list?

Very funny article
Seems like many commenters missed the main point of the article which was the "why I smoke them" part. You're an evil man Adams!

LobaAzul
So if Hillary Clinton wrote an article called “Five Great Cigars and Why You Should Vote for Me” you would look upon it as simply cigar recommendations? I suppose for some folks that’s enough. Perhaps you can get some good cigar recommendations from Bill Clinton. I understand that he like one from time to time.

Monica

ModMark used the cigar part of this article to harken an embarrassing moment in our nations history by alluding to some possible symbolisms of cigars, ala Bill Clinton.

I probably risk the rath of the censors just for bringing it up. Well, if I get booted,I'll come back as some a FROG of a different sort.
********************************
Can't believe my mention of Monica was censored.
Hillary said if she is elected, she's gonna
put that blue dress in the Smithsonian.

Zero


Late to the Party . . .
. . . and rehashing a point already made repeatedly, but who's getting all wound up and flagging posts as offensive?

I am sorry that I apparently missed some good posts before somebody called out TH's "PC PD."

This is more evidence of what I have been suspecting for a while now: Even TH is going liberal on us. ("O Tempora, O Mores!")

I was particularly disappointed (seriously) that I missed Will's thoughtful post. There's no point having a discussion if we're all going to agree with each other.

Anyway, just my two (belated) cents.

Oh yeah, good article too!

I think I'll Hit "Flag as Offensive"...
. . . on one of my OWN posts, and see what happens. ;-)

It just might cause the clockwork oranges from TH's PC Patrol to short-circuit, which would preclude them from stop acting like a bunch of overzealous ninnies.

(Will I get flagged for writing that??? And if I do, will anyone ever know . . .)

Up your nose and down your throat
Maybe Mikee is blowing smoke to make political points, dunno. Limbaugh does it. But cigar smoke is not exactly what Mikee's cardiologist will want to hear about, when the medics roll him into ER. Not good for urinary/kidney system either- visit to the urologist is no fun.

Take cigar money and donate it to a good charity. Bet Jesus would like Mikee more if Mikee did that. Or did Jesus smoke?

What's that smell?
Cigars smell like caca. Kind of looks like it too.
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