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Wednesday, January 23, 2008
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Alison: Your Aim Is True
by Mike Adams
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A recent essay by Alison Piepmeier of the College of Charleston provides some of the best examples of the cruelty, heartlessness, and utter self-absorption embodied in the modern feminist movement. Aptly titled, “Choosing Us,” the essay shows that, for feminists, abortion is a device to prevent one thing: Feminist inconvenience.

Alison begins her abortion story by informing her readers that her unwanted pregnancy began with an “ecstatic, hushed fling on the cold tiles of the bathroom floor a few weeks earlier” while her brother and his girlfriend were in the other room. She had used contraception, but the contraception had failed. After crying for a few hours, she confessed that she made up her mind to abort fairly quickly: “…unlike those after-school special girls, who always decide to either keep the baby or give it up for adoption, I wanted an abortion.”

What is odd about her quick decision to abort is that she was no teenager. She was 31 years old when she got pregnant and was in a “stable relationship.” In fact, the man who got her pregnant was “Walter,” her husband of five years. She had kept several hundred dollars tucked away in case she ever needed to terminate an unplanned pregnancy - a habit she did not terminate even after years of marriage.

Alison confessed in her essay that she was part of a happily married couple, that she and her husband were in good physical health, and that they both had jobs and health insurance. She even said, “Walter and I were pretty good candidates for parenthood.” Midway through her essay she almost sounded as if she knew the decision to abort was wrong for a woman in her circumstances:

“But we didn’t want a baby, a state of affairs that made us feel a bit ungrateful, as if the universe had shown up at our door with a gift—a package full of possibilities—and we were slamming the door shut without even taking a look. I had girlfriends who had gone through agony in a quest for children, had miscarriages and invasive, crazy-making fertility treatments, and here we were, experiencing effortless fertility and then planning to toss it. Magical thinking kicked in, and I wondered, are you even allowed to reject a gift like that without disastrous consequences?”

So Alison and her husband decided to rethink the decision to abort. She postponed her first clinic appointment and made another for a few weeks later. Together, she and Walter asked a few questions to help them decide whether to abort the baby. For example:

Q: How would we feel about having a baby right now?

A: Scared out of our minds.

Q: Do we want a baby now?

A: No.

Q: Could we afford it?

A: No, but who ever can?

Q: Would Walter have to drop out of graduate school?

A: Probably.

Alison admitted in her essay that, in making her decision, she “thought about all the selfish reasons (she) wasn’t ready for a child—(she) want(ed) to write another book, (she and Walter) might need to move for (her) job—and wondered whether it was okay for (her) to decide based on (her) own desires.”

But she and Walter did talk about adoption before making this conclusive decision: “but I knew we couldn’t do it—we can’t even walk by a pet store without getting attached, so I knew if we spent nine months with this being, it would be ours for life.”

Maybe the reader noticed that Alison referred to the fetus as a “being.” But it is difficult to discern whether she understood it was a human being. She admits that it would be harder to part with the baby (if given up for adoption) than to pass by a pet store “without getting attached.” It almost sounds as if she is about to concede that the fetus is human.

But, of course, she decided to go to the clinic and join a dozen other women also having abortions. She got a glimpse of the ultrasound the six-week old fetus and “was relieved to see only a marble-sized blob: no visible heartbeat, no tiny fingers like in the anti-choice propaganda.”

Back in the waiting room, a nurse explained the process to Alison. She took one pill to stop the pregnancy from proceeding and four more within the next few days to induce a miscarriage. Alison judged the nurse - like everyone else at the clinic – to be “blessedly non-judgmental and matter-of-fact.”

A few days later at the breakfast table, both Alison and Walter wrote a letter. Then, they went and sat on a riverbank. Alison read her letter aloud. “Dear potential person,” she said, “Thank you so much for coming along.” She then started to cry. She wished “it” well, told “it” she hoped “it” found another home, and pulled the blossom off a flower and threw it into the river.

Walter cried, too, as he read his own letter to the aborted fetus. He, too, tossed a flower blossom out into the river. As both Walter and Alison’s flowers floated away, he said “I hope to God they don’t wash back ashore here.” The couple then burned their letters and kept the flower stems to take home, as a reminder of the baby. Alison proclaimed “It was a good ceremony: earth, air, fire, water, and words.”

Although she admitted feeling some grief, Alison said she felt mostly gratitude. “In the days and weeks (and now years) since, I felt a little grief, but mostly gratitude. It wasn’t just the relief of not being forced to give birth (although that was considerable); it was also what the decision did for our marriage.”

Towards the end of “Choosing Us,” I was beginning to wonder why Alison had written her highly personal account. But she put my curiosity to rest in the final paragraph:

“ … (T)he story I most want to tell—and one I have never heard—is of abortion as an intimate part of a couple’s life together. Our abortion was a love story. I’d worried that Walter and I were rejecting a gift from the universe. What I discovered, though, was that when we stripped away the distractions of everyday life so that we could make this difficult decision together, it bound us together as surely as if our choice had been different—and as it turns out, that was the gift.

And so I wonder what Alison Piepmeier – director of Women’s and Gender Studies at The College of Charleston – will say to the next co-ed who asks her advice on the issue of abortion. Will she say that it is just like picking a scab? Or will she speak honestly about her emotional ambivalence? If she does the latter, will she even be able to explain the source of her ambivalence?

Finally, I wonder what advice she will give to a young girl having marital problems. Perhaps, that she and her husband should get pregnant, have an abortion, and experience true emotional intimacy.

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“Dear potential person, Thank you so much for coming along.”

here, allow me to show my thanks and humanity [b]by killing you[/b].

there could not be a clearer, more emphatic demonstration of the 'humanist' self-absorption, cruelty and rationalization than this.

Feminazism run riot....

The untold story here is how the whole thing (abort or not, raise the child or not) is HER decision and the father is simply supposed to write the checks...

The problem is that we live in a "world revolves around me" society where feminists can do whatever without having to ever answer for doing so.

And mark my words, the angry white males will be responding at some point....

Mark my words,
an angry God will be responding at some point....

The Result of Years of Propaganda.....
Is this for real? Could a woman---even one of those far Left, Socialist, etc,etc types---be so heartless, so inhuman? That child could have been the next Einstein, Socrates, Lincoln---or just an orindary person, enjoying the greatest gift there is...existence. How can you love your fellow Man, when you dispose of your own child like a kleenex? This couple (except for the appalling lack of Human feeling)seems like they could have raised their own child without too much "inconvenience". You people on the Left have much to explain......and answer for.

But
she does share her feelings. And for her crowd, that's all that counts and all the justification they need to do anything. And, notice that "Walter" is eternally affirming, understanding, and complicit. And there you have it, Adam and Eve, a modern day epiphany.

Abortion is Murder
I am just in a constant state of shock that not only is Abortion legal but people have lied to themselves that it is not murder.

We lock up people who Murder in this country and anybody who murders their own child is no exception. You can try and rationalize and lie to yourself all day long (Serial Killers tend to do this as well...) but at the end of the day it is still MURDER!

Abortion
is always the result of self-centeredness and selfishness. What if all those same questions are asked by someone with a 1-year-old - would the answers warrant the child's murder? Of course not, although there are those who believe so, but age of the child (pre-born or 1 year) should not be the determining factor as to whether it is okay. Abortion is always the murder of a child, which, after all, is what the word "fetus" means.

What's The Difference?
The only difference between abortionists and suicide bombers is the suicide bomber has the courage to end his own life along with those he is murdering. To advocate abortion is to see humanity as beyond worthless and actually as an evil on this world. Abortionists should have the courage of their convictions and just end their own miserable existence.

justifying a lie -
It is stunning that she was aware that she was ending a human life. Purely for convenience. And even more so that she had the comfort of knowing she was sharing this reality with a room full of empathetic people. My, Satan is good!

her parents must be proud
Alison's parents must be proud that she was able to murder their grandchild in such a caring manner and then be able to have such a touching ceremony to make amends to the universe by throwing a flower in the river. I'm sure the universe was grateful.

Liberals are very seldom honest in explaining why they do things or what they actually think, but whenever they do - as Alison (spelled with 1 L) does here - their total lack of humanity is appalling.

It's all just words...
...humans seem to live off of euphemisms(sp).They have to have them,otherwise they would go insane.Instead of calling it "your baby",call it your "fetus",your "pregnancy",your "choice".That way,you can get thru life and still look at yourself in the mirrow.Simply re-define a human being and you are home free.The Nazi's never said they killed Jews,they said they "had a final solution to the Jewish problem".So they excersized their "choice",and it was nobody else's business.

I don't know one soldier who ever called an enemy he killed a "former fetus".He called him "a man".That's honesty.But parents who kill their own children start by lying to themselves and end up by lying to society.But to this member of society,it is still a lie.

YIKES!!!
That story reminds me of the New York writer who became naturally pregnant with tripets and she "selectively reduced" to one child. She had the gall to say should it ever happen again (!!!!!) that she would consider the same thing. These people are selfish. Completely and one hundred percent selfish.

Here's a link

no man at all
What kind of man is this "Walter"? No man at all I'm afraid. It used to be that men would fight to the death to save their children, but he is content share his feelings and toss flowers into the river. Yuck! Where do you think they are keeping their "stems of remembrance"? Surely not pressed between the pages of their Bible. You know the book that would have told them that the universe did not give them the gift of a baby, but God did. I hope they can make the "glow" of their new found intimacy last because pretty soon they will have to stand before Almighty God, who I'm sure is more than a little ticked off right now. I don't think He'll be impressed with Alison's little story.

Pick A bloosum
Dr. Piepmeier,

What will you do with Walter if he gets cancer and becomes a burden too your furture?
What will Walter do with you?
Take a being and toss it in the river.

Question to abortion supporters ...
If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had birthed 8 children already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis, would you recommend that she have an abortion?

Yeah, I thought you would. But guess what? You would have just killed Ludwig Von Beethoven. Nice job!!

Where oh where are the moonbats
to defend the indefensible? If you want to be selfish, don't have a relationship, don't produce a baby and don't then whine that your life is empty.

Disturbing
This story is truly disturbing from so many aspects.

What has this liberal mindset done to our country? Even amongst liberals you would think they would be disturbed by the absurdity.

In the liberal world it is very acceptible to demand the resignation of a Harvard president who just voices the scientific reasoning that there may be a gender difference in how people comprehend science and math.

Yet this woman has no fear at all that she will lose her job after openly admitting the cold-hearted, cold-blooded, pre-meditated murder of her child. If fact, in the liberal world she is probably up for a promotion for her display of "courage" in sharing her feelings.

It is truly disturbing that this behavior is accepted in our society.

Mike
We can be pretty sure the 31-year-old director of "Women's and Gender Studies" will not provide any pro-life advice to any young, pregnant girls.

That said, I'm sure she'll be happy to provide a copy of her essay to the young women. She seems quite proud of the "Choosing Us. Our Abortion Was A Love Story" essay.

Note to Ailson Piepmeier: "....are you even allowed to reject a gift like that.....". I'm glad you pondered that. I'm deeply sorry, however, you think the "difficult decision" you made was also a "gift". A gift can be many things, Alison. Abortion is not one of them.

DSM IV
You have to be a certain type of individual to justify having an abortion the way this woman has. She minimizes human life just as a violent criminal does. By doing so they hope to eliminate the guilt that such acts produce. For women such a Alison, Feminism is their religion. You are a witness to this fact as you read how she describes how this procedure enhanced her relationship with her husband. Her feminist commandments allow for this and as such help to minimize her guilt. Alison gives us a view into her mind with this article. At the end of the day we are all responsible for the decisions that we make. We all have those things about ourselves that we would like to change or enhance. After reading this I am glad that I grew up in a household with parents who valued life. I am especially thankful for having a mother who never bought into the religion of feminism.

Perhaps The only good news


is that these two did not reproduce themselves. It is unfortunate that the fetus did not survive their decision to not be unconvinced.

i note that
the usual suspects (up this point) are loudly silent. must be at work.

Where are they?
I don't see any of the usual comments bashing Dr. Adams. Ms Alison Piepmeier & Mr. Walter Milktoast have alot of explaining to do when their time comes.

"hope you find another home"
A rabid pro-abort young woman, the head of a pro-choice college group whom I met while running a pro-life group on the same campus, was very clear that should she decide to have an abortion, she would merely pray to "the goddess" to take the soul of the child and place it elsewhere, in another womb. That way she would have done nothing wrong.

Am usually not this quick on my feet but this was an easy one. I shot back, well, what if I should want to kill you right now, I'll just pray first that your soul goes into a baby yet to be born, that would make it OK, right? That stopped her in her tracks, she stopped speaking and appeared to consider this. She never mentioned that argument again.

The vapidity of these people's rationalizations are appalling.

But God is not fooled, and as some have said above, they will have some explaining to do "when their time comes."

I truly hope...
that this young lady NEVER does have a child. By God's choice. I hope she and Walter "ALWAYS" wonder about their first love child that they destroyed. Yes, life is a gift and they threw it away. They do NOT deserve to have such a gift. I have one child and I love him dearly. I wished for more, but it never happened. He is a miracle and a true gift. May these two NEVER experience such love and yes, sacrifice!

Selfish Jerk
People used to be ashamed of being heartless, selfish, irresponsible jerks who put their own whims and convenience above the lives of others.

God WILL deal justice to her.

I only wish that our society would deal with her and her husband exactly as they would deal with a couple that poisoned their teenager.

Abortion as a solution
As I read this, what came to mind was a family in Germany circa 1935 who had a mentally ill child in a nearby institution. Then, one day, they got a letter indicating that their son or daughter had "died of pneumonia" when they had actually been murdered with a morphine overdose.

And they were glad that those trials were over, that the suffering was over. But they had no inkling that their nation would soon be ending the lives of millions of the "unwanted" using arguments and techniques that were not very different.

The road to Hell is truly and fashionably paved with good intentions.

Women who hate children
There are women who hate children. I heard it in a meeting at work the other day. A woman I have known for 20 years was complaining that her sister is still having children. For an evironmentalist children are the enemy. They consume resources. For a feminist children consume time and personal resources. And as I looked around the table and saw three childless lesbians it is no wonder they have to propagandize so strongly. They aren't reproducing themselves. Thus the loving mothers win by default. Yes, I believe there is a Roe effect and Allison (I knew one like her with the same first name and she too had an abortion like it was nothing, the only thing she enjoyed was having bigger breasts for a while) has just proved it.

Dr. K

sick people
those people (and I mean "those people" in a derogatory way) make me want to vomit.

Hearing about those people helps me love my daughter even more.

Alison's " Choice"
In the State of Georgia we had a drunk driver kill a pregnant woman and her fetus. He was charged with vehicular homicide for the woman, and fetuscide for the unborn baby.

I would like for Alison and Walter to explain to me the difference in what the drunk driver did, and their "choice" to kill a fetus. In my view, not only are the doctor that prescribed, and the nurse that administered, the drug that caused the miscarriage guilty of fetuscide, so are Alison and Walter.

I would just hope that they are never able to conceive again, we don't need the likes of that kind of people in the gene pool.

The Old Coot

Nam65-66
Are you kidding? I never heard someone say they killed a man. They greased or zapped gooks, zippers, slopes; but never a son, husband or father.

Alison
In my quest to find the woman of my dreams, let me not meet anyone who thinks she can get the gift of life with her significant other, by killing a baby!

and yet
cold hearted and liberal (they go together) as they were---God was working in their consciences. They KNEW it was a gift in their heart of hearts and in their minds. The only choice they made was the choice to remain in denial of life and denying life has a nasty way of coming back around and biting one in the a**.

Absence of?
Come on, there must be at least one of the LMB's present. Where's the attacks on ole Mike. He needs them for chuckles "Dontcha Know".

Actually the article made me nauseous. Is it possible to be human without a soul?


She said they discussed it together
I would like to ask her this: "What if Walter had not wanted her to go ahead with the abortion?"

God Doesn't Have to Do...
anything to her. She will live the rest of her life in her own, personally constructed H*ll.

All a Christian can do is to pray for her and her husband.

(To MikeR, you are wrong about: "They greased or zapped gooks, zippers, slopes; but never a son, husband or father." That language is the soldiers' "release valve" at being involved with death. A soldier uses it because he has to.)

seriously
I’m opposed to abortion because the taking of human life is the most serious decision there is. It is irreversible and there is always a cost. Unfortunately, most of the rhetoric opposing abortion is as poor as that which supports it. It is my understanding that abortion is at its lowest since Roe vs. Wade. That is good news. It means that despite legality, our society is recognizing the higher aspect of human life.

Gray Ghost
I know that. I was only refuting Nam’s claim that he never heard of such behavior.

Violet best not be at Planet UMass
> I shot back, well, what if I should want to
> kill you right now, I'll just pray first that
> your soul goes into a baby yet to be born,
> that would make it OK, right?

The feminazi-controlled campus police department here would probably arrest you for saying that here.

The one that almost got me into trouble was a bit less threatening - and this was my spin on domestic violence.

Me: Male 6'03"
Feminist: smaller

Me: So you are saying that might makes right - that since you are bigger than your baby, you can kill her?

She: Confused...

Me: So your boyfriend is bigger than you, why can't he kill *you* if *you* are "inconvienent" to him?

She: Confused, and Mad, but speechless....

Me: So you are in favor of domestic violence?

Alison and Pontius Pilate
One washed his hands to try and shed guilt, the other did a little ceremony on the river bank. Self deception and ohhh so evil.

Bet
How much do you want to bet that Alison is against Capital Punishment under any circumstance?

abortion makes us closer -
Is this the up and coming tool for marriage counselors?

The original essay
by Alison can be read online:

http://www.skirt.com/node/1150

You may want to copy it before they take it offline.

a similar story
In the summer of 1966, a Southern debutante was halfway through a Summa C Laude university career. Her sweetheart was a poor boy who attended a State school with mediocre results. They enjoyed a Summer of Love and conceived a baby in the back of his mama's '63 Chevy. Her prominent family pushed a private abortion, he said "NO!" They cried, they loved, they married, they tried, then they divorced when I was three years old. I LIVED a messy life with my hippie mama tramping throughout California until I returned to the town of my birth and lived with Dad's mom (he had a new family). Today, I am a degreed mom of three married to an Army officer. I may not make a huge difference in the world...but you should see MY children!!

That woman and her male life partner will never know what their child could've become, the diseases he or she could've cured, or the children he or she would've had. "All the possibilities" indeed.

perfect example
Pirate and The Old Coot provide perfect examples of my point. In both cases, they ignore the essence of law and due process to cloud the issue with cheep rhetoric. When a soldier fires his weapon at an enemy and when a gang member fires his weapon at an opposing gang member the same action of projectile entering a body takes place resulting in the death of an individual. Despite this, we recognize one as legitimate and necessary and one as murder. We also have Frog’s rationalization of the would-be Beethoven. Since criminals far outnumber master composers, the odds of the abortion would have been a good thing. This rhetoric feels good as it displays our cleverness and vents our spleen, but it does not advance our agenda.

It gives me pause
When I was in college, my mother told me that I was a birth control mistake. I had been conceived near the end of WWII when a condom broke.

Imagine what could have happened had my conception taken place after Roe v. Wade--and don't think I don't ponder this often. Consequently, each year on my birthday, I thank my mother for giving me life.

MikeR wrote, "There is always a cost." The deepest score I have against pro-abortionists is the enormous stake they have in keeping the truth from young women that there will be lifetime emotional consequences.

Numerous posters have rightly referred to the utter selfishness of abortion. What else do young women see in what passes for our culture these days? The emphasis is entirely on the immediate gratification of sex, with no mention of the consequences. Conception is an "accident," with all the negative connotations of that term. And for many years (certainly this was the case in my childbearing years), motherhood is denigrated, treated with contempt, put down.

I agree with Mother of 4: God will judge us.

Dr. Adams
How sad, and truly pathetic, that this woman's drivel is actually being lauded. At least they owned up to their selfishness. Of course, it isn't "selfishness" by feminist standards. It's a way to become closer to your loved one.

Perhaps if she feels that children are a hindrance, maybe she should remove herself from this earth to avoid another such experience. Makes as much sense as "abortion as the ultimate gift".

Irresponsible behavior.
Abortion is the ULTIMATE in taking your irresponsible behavior out on someone else.

According to the Centers for Disease control, less than 1% of abortions are performed on women whose pregnancy was a result of a rape, and less than 4% of abortions are performed to save a woman's life.

This means AT LEAST 95% of abortions are performed because some bloodthirsty slvt went out and got knocked up without ever thinking about the consequences. Instead, she took her irresponsible behavior out on an innocent baby by allowing a homicidal maniac ram a rusty pair of scissors into the back of that babies head.

In a RATIONAL world, abortion wouldn't be celebrated. It would be disdained. In a rational world, people would be fired from their jobs, evicted from their apartments, banned from restaurants, or worse, if they ever got abotions. Treat them like the murderers they are.

ArmyWifeAggie88
ARE YOU AN AGGIE,TOO??

WHOOP!!!!

You should see my children, too! It kills me to see my sister, a liberal, espouse abortion to her 18 year old as a viable form of birth control. I try to show her the other side of the coin, and all she can tell me is, "Why do you want to take away my rights??"

Sometimes it's the deaf leading the blind....

Alison Piepmeier
Director of Women and Gender Studies - no surprise here. Biggest waste of a degree on the planet. Typical feminist view, and he said nothing? What a weak kneed male. Academia is shot.

Interesting she and her husband used the 4 Elements to be their "religious" experience : earth, air, fire, water - if I recall, these were Greek (maybe Chinese) beliefs as to what comprised the universe before we learned much, much more from science. Maybe she wants to return the the Greek or Chinese environments that didn't let women get educated, and in the case of the Chinese, bound their feet, etc.

Oh, they don't teach this in Women's studies they only trash white males. I wonder if Ms. Piepmeier ever had any real science - like chemistry, biology, etc.?

Abortion part of anti-male agenda...

Abortion really isn't about aborting pregnancies.

Abortion is about driving a wedge between the traditional male/female/children family structure and the feminist ideal of the empowered woman who answers only to her government and around which the entire world revolves.

A pregnant woman is weak. She needs others to help her - likely one of the reasons the concept of a husband evolved. A woman required to care for a child is burdened (not unlike a man required to financially support a child).

And feminism was that a woman could have the irresponsiblity of a 15 year old and the spending power of a 50 year old all her life without any consequences.

Abortion thus is about a whole lot more than just children being born or not...

Defenders of abortion
usually respond to stories like this with "Now women will have to go to back alley abortionists or get out the coat hangers." In other words, those wanting an abortion are usually self-indulgent, impulsive, selfish people and will continue to be so. And don't respond regarding pregnancies from rape...just how many of them are there?

Pirate's post of 9:51 AM
Pirate:
"She: Confused, and Mad, but speechless....

Me: So you are in favor of domestic violence?"

That's pretty funny! It's always amusing to see them get speechless, all tangled up in their own (lack of) logic.

Guess the only thing that saved me from the feminazis' wrath was that we were both women, and I'm small and very soft spoken...! No one would take me for a threat even if I am a "terrifying" prolifer. LOL


What a heart warmer......
Nothing like a little ritual murder to bring two hearts even closer than before..... Makes me want to puke.

Of course
You are not a TRUE feminist until you have had an abortion - hence the reason why she kept money aside for an abortion 5 years into her marriage. It was never a question of "if" but "when". You know she was composing her essay as soon as she found out - looking for validation of her "courage".

I won't judge her actions (they are not mine to judge)but she shouldn't expect to get applause for them either.

you also no that she would have no compunction spitting on a soldier and calling him/her a "babykiller"

This (and many many other things) is why I will never call myself a feminist

Abortion as Intimacy....
It's truly a miracle that two such whack jobs found each other in this big, big world!

Mind Boggling!
So know one is confused by the moniker "Jeff," I am actually a mom of three children. My hubby and I both write in on this site, so I just use his name. That being said, I look at my own life compared to Alison, and I can't even begin to comprehend her thought processes.

While pregnant with our second child, I tested positive on the AFP test for Down Syndrome. Not once did I ponder the thought of aborting our child. Instead, I started looking up information so as to be prepared to accept the gift God was going to give us. Genetic testing revealed no Down Syndrome. We named our little girl Grace(gift from God). She is truly such a gift. She is mildly autistic and has some other learning issues. Yet, I see Grace as a wonderful gift. I have learned more life lessons from this precious, impish, artistic child than scholarly wisdom could offer. I can't imagine not having Grace in our lives.

This isn't "Oh, wonderful us aren't we good people." This is about that one never knows how truly incredible the gift of a child will be. Whereas Alison had one fleeting so called bonding moment with her husband, in raising Grace my husband and I have had exponentially more bonding moments. Alison doesn't know it, she is too self-obessed to ponder that she has lived a stunted life missing the blessings and challenges of creating a family.

Of Course
Missed a typo - change the "no" to "know" in my diatribe so I don't look more ignorant then I am!

Is anyone really surprised?
This story only further verifies that liberals are capable of any and all justification to appease their selfish appetites.

More than sad, it's absolutely disturbing that so many of these monsters run free.

Woody from Iowa

The sad part is...
that so many are willing to sell them the flowers.

Something lost, DNA
There is something overlooked in this discussion in regards to abortion: our DNA. Aside from the fact that conception produces a child, a human being, deserving of love and nurturing, there is the casting away of an entire lineage, both male and female. This new child represents an entire history of the genes passed down from our beginning. I am reminded of this every time I look at the history of my surname (as far back as I have been able to trace). And it is true that these people are so self-absorbed that there is no historical conciousness about what they are doing. A few petals in the water to cast off an entire genetic history, not to mention the life of a human being.

Dr. K

violet
"...and I'm small and very soft spoken."

But you're not shrinking, are you!

Very disturbing
I'm not a pro-life activist, but there was never a clearer picture painted of what an amoral society we've become. It's so disturbing to know that a mentor for our youth could justify the taking of the life of a "being" and turn it into something described as emotionally and spiritually satisfying, rather than the self-serving, selfish, narcissistic, murderous act that it was. To actually have a ceremony to acknowledge the act is perverted.

Wait till she's 50 and see how she feels
Several of my friends aborted. They were never able to have another child.
When she's 50 and it finally dawns on her that she murdered the only baby she will ever carry perhaps she'll "get it" that God gifted her with a child and she threw that gift back in his face.
I never had kids and thank God I never aborted one but my husband and I would have gladly adopted her baby as would millions of other couples.

You All Miss The Real Significance
Too many comments here are indignant over what this self-absorbed (and clearly immature) woman did. Yes, she had an abortion. However, instead of lamenting over the supposed lost life you people should be rejoicing. Why? Can you imagine the hell that child would have been put through with parents such as these two? This fetus was spared being born into a family where both parents would resent the child because it interrupted their lifestyle and cost them opportunities, real or imagined. It is couples like this who lend credence to the idea that no one should be issued a marriage license without some form of mandatory education and testing to determine their maturity. The same goes for childbearing. Breeders we do not need - parents who WANT to be parents we do need. If anything, this woman should be encouraged to have her tubes tied.

Alison's letter
If anyone ever wondered what "Love means never having to say you're sorry" meant, Alison and Walter are the answer. The part of this story that's really sobering (and more than a little hard to handle) is the realization that, despite what they've done, God still loves them as much as those of us who are rightly condemning their actions.

question
I wonder, of all the people commenting, how many give money to poor families? How many take care of children in extreme poverty? How many (who are quick to post their opinions about abortion) help children who are alive now and desperately need steady financial support (and I mean more than a 20 dollar donation)?





Couldn't Agree More!
Terrifc posts on this TH thread today.

Wonderful to here so many cherish human life.

Note No. 2 to Alison: Many folks here are mourning your baby, Alison. It wasn't an "it", btw. This was a human being. Could you make a note of that for your next essay?

The abortion issue, and one's
particular stand on that issue. Is usually a truer indication of one's soul, and personal goodness, than probably any other stand.

There are exceptions, those that usually fall on the poor or desitute, etc. But my comment was mainly dealing with those that suport abortion, from afar, and an almost glee in this right of liquidatiom and slaughter.

While the scared and bewildered young women, who is usually immature and mentally stunted at the time. Has our pity and compassion for the plight that she has allowed herself to fall into. The liberal uses this incident, to push social, political and yes, religious beliefs upon those that usually regret the abortion decision at a later date. Many, who have lost a chance to be mothers, forever.

There is always a cost to abortion. A very high cost.

The abortion issue, and one's
particular stand on that issue. Is usually a truer indication of one's soul, and personal goodness, than probably any other stand.

There are exceptions, those that usually fall on the poor or desitute, etc. But my comment was mainly dealing with those that suport abortion, from afar, and an almost glee in this right of liquidatiom and slaughter.

While the scared and bewildered young women, who is usually immature and mentally stunted at the time. Has our pity and compassion for the plight that she has allowed herself to fall into. The liberal uses this incident, to push social, political and yes, religious beliefs upon those that usually regret the abortion decision at a later date. Many, who have lost a chance to be mothers, forever.

There is always a cost to abortion. A very high cost.

Hey Libs!
Cat got your keyboard!!(Tongue)

Same trap...
I believe:

Wolfgang writes: Wednesday, January, 23, 2008 11:12 AM

"Can you imagine the hell that child would have been put through with parents such as these two? This fetus was spared being born into a family where both parents would resent the child because it interrupted their lifestyle and cost them opportunities, real or imagined."

Wolfgang, you fall into the same trap of faulty reasoning that the couple did - while they assumed that they couldn't adjust their lives and be overcome with love for the child, you also assume that. I suspect that millions of people have welcomed and nurtured children who came at the wrong time, in spite of initial misgivings.

The God Delusion!
I think abortion is an abominable means of birth control...but I've seen the most despicable neglect and abuse of children who were not wanted, or who were born to parents who were neither emotionally or financially "mature" enough to rear the child. Those children already have two strikes against them on their journey into adolescence and adulthood, and often a generation-upon-generation cycle of poverty and abuse is the consequence. So abortion can sometimes be the sad but "proper" choice. I'll propose a radical idea. I think couples [both!] should be punished when "they" become pregnant from failure to use birth control.

Oh, yes...the "God Delusion"! If "God" is so opposed to abortion why aren't the offending parents "zapped" by lightning to save the child...or does an all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-merciful "God" simply sit on his hands and callously permit such child abuse to take place? Don't preach to me about the certainty of dire "after life" punishment for the parents. I'm talking about "God's" present punishment of the unborn child by failing to intervene!

gitarjeenyus, thanks for the link!
I went to the link, but I didn't read the article. I read the comments. Some people really ripped her a new one.

I know it's only a movie, but even Juno, the 16 year old girl who's name is the title of the current movie, handled pregnancy better than this 30 something yuppie. These people should do society a favor. If they really believe abortion is acceptable, they should retoractively abort themselves.

reply to Kim1234
I give to my parents and no other charity. My siblings and I will soon convene a meeting to plan for the passing of either Mom or Dad and form a plan of action to care for the survivor. This is honoring our parents in their declining years. I guess Alison and Walter have their own plans.

Dr. K

reply to Kim1234
I give to my parents and no other charity. My siblings and I will soon convene a meeting to plan for the passing of either Mom or Dad and form a plan of action to care for the survivor. This is honoring our parents in their declining years. I guess Alison and Walter have their own plans.

Dr. K

Oops, a mistake.
My little sister was a mistake. But my parents didn't choose an abortion. I couldn't imagine life without her.

I don't think that abortion should be used a means of birth control.

How many, Kim?
Try everyone. We are the most generous nation when it comes to giving on a variety of levels; particularly the private sector. I am a career social worker and am always in awe of the charity I see flowing from individuals and companies. As government largess increases, donations go down as does the quality and amount of that which is given, including time. How dare you insinuate that the very people who continually pay the bills for the choices and stupidity of others somehow don't consider the plights of others. Its a lifestyle, and its where MY paycheck comes from.

In addition, this story wasn't about a desperate, needy couple; it reflects the malignant selfishness that has metastasized over the past few decades and has become the snot-nosed norm.


Kim1234 and Rich D.
Kim1234 writes: Wednesday, January, 23, 2008 11:22 AM
"question
I wonder, of all the people commenting, how many give money to poor families? How many take care of children in extreme poverty? How many (who are quick to post their opinions about abortion) help children who are alive now and desperately need steady financial support (and I mean more than a 20 dollar donation)?"

Well, you asked three questions. My answers are:
1. Yes,
2. yes, and
3. yes.

And: I work in the inner city, at a much lower salary than I could be making elsewhere, helping people in poverty - children as well as adults - have a better life. I also volunteer much of my non-work time to an inner city teen youth group.

Nice try though, trying to paint prolifers as hypocrites. Too bad it didn't work out for you.

So. Now, we are all awaiting YOUR answers to the questions you felt were so important to ask. Well?




Rich D. writes: Wednesday, January, 23, 2008 11:05 AM:
"But you're not shrinking, are you!"


Well, as you can see, guess that would be, mmmmmmNo. :)





Amazing
Maybe there IS a better world ahead for us. I've read these letters with great interest and can't see one that is sympathetic to this awful woman's story. We really do "love the children".Personally I have 4 children, 10 grandchildren and 9 great-grandchildren, who are ordinary wonderful people, with not an abortion behind us. But lots of love. Good column Mike!

old social worker
I wince when someone makes the point that Kim raised, but I also wince over the standard responses. I too spent years as a social worker and at no time were we ever devoid of generous people; but I spent many a Christmas eve or Christmas day alone as the only staff in the group home, year after year with the same sad looks on different faces. The amount of actual help we received was a drop in the bucket to the number that protests. Yes, Kim has a point that is just as viable as the others in this thread.

GrayGhost-YLG-Ssgt
Another example of LIBERAL VALUES AT WORK!

Selfishness, Cowardice and Avoiding Responsibility.

Proper decision making
Why don't people think about these issues and make these decisions IN THE FIRST PLACE? If Alison and Walter both knew they didn't want children, then instead of having a few hundred tucked away "just in case" and then having to be replaced after each abortion, why not just have the tubes tied (for both partners) in the first place? Then they'd never even have to think about contraception ever again. Talk about spontaneous love-making and not losing the mood.

Absolutely no contraceptive is 100% effective. You are always taking that chance, and a responsible adult accepts that fact. When contraceptives fail, that means the baby is "beating the odds." What a corker! He deserves a chance at life.

She says she has friends who are going through all sorts of hurdles to get a baby. They'd love to adopt hers. How can she, then, post such an essay, knowing full well her child-wanting friends may read it, and feel such heartbreak that their friendship cannot last? At least she'll still have Walter. Until he hits his midlife crisis and wants to prove his virility by having a baby with some other woman.

The time to chose whether or not to have a baby is before you have sex, married, or not.

What more shall we do, Mike?
Since your setting was group home, I'm assuming that you were working with developmentally disabled citizens. What more can be done? The ARCs here in Jersey have countless benefits, auctions, dinners, walks, etc... and recreation includes cruises, trips to the Grand Canyon, Disney World, etc... Many hotels offer dramatic discounts and some donate. The risk of litigation is great these days, so there is generosity in more ways than finance and services being offered.

You must keep in mind that many group home residents are on a host of medications that dramatically influence mood. You ARE going to see long faces that have nothing to do with lack of generosity on the part of others. Some situations are inherently sad, and constantly digging in the pockets of others will not fix it.

You would wish a terrible life
for several already existing people, and a miserable life for the about to be born.

Remember, if the baby was really wanted, they would not be looking for an abortion, so for this baby to be born, would cause many problems for the baby, and several other people who are not in the physical, financial, or social position to raise a healthy, happy child.

And that is more important than any of you wanting to feel great by forcing someone to live by your dictates.

And again I ask, "Are you one of those who watch TV news stories of starving babies and cheer, and say, At least she didn't get an abortion!"

Kim - Charity for children
Last Christmas, I spent more money on charity for Salvation Army angels than I did for my entire extended family's presents. A few toys, and mostly lots of good clothes for the children.

Abortion is a slap in the face to everyone who wants a child and can't have one. And most people who want children and can't have one go out of their way to help needy children. They can't stop themselves from caring. Their hearts are full of love for a child, with no child of their own to lavish it on, so they find other targets. Usually the targets are relatives or neighbors, but also through charitable organizations, Big Brother/Big Sister, mentoring programs, etc.

a couple points
i have tried posting this twice.

now first let me say i am pro-life.
next let me say that there are some conservatives who are pro-choice and more importantly, some conservative mothers end up getting abortions.

to live under the assumption that is all liberals on this issue is naiive and ill-informed.

now if roe v wade is overturned will there be abortion police?

will the penalty for a woman caught having an abortion be death since it is murder?

will those women who have miscarriages be arrested or investigated until they can prove it is a legitimate miscarriage.

these are sincere questions.

Jim
With all due respect, you hold a cartoonish notion of God.

God granted us free will. We can choose to do good, or we can choose to do evil. God does not "zap" us. The rules are already in place. We punish ourselves. Hell is the cold, dark separation from God that results when we turn away from Him, or deny His existence.

I'm no theologian, and I do not pretend to know the nature of what God is, but I do know what He is not. He is not Zeus, a bearded man in the sky throwing thunderbolts at those who displease.

Were it only so simple...

If you don't want the baby
Give it to one of the many people who DO. Unwanted babies are not doomed, you know. SOMEONE wants them. And yes, even those with birth defects or diseases are wanted. I know someone who not only had 10 children of thier own, but they also adopted 2 Down Syndrome children, and they were LOVED. Why did they adopt these girls? Because their own parents didn't want to deal with a Down Syndrome child, but my friends wanted the children, no matter what. They had that much love to give.

They also had several foster children, who were eventually adopted into the family, as well.

Don't think that by being anti-abortion we are cheering on doomed miserable unloved lives for babies. No. We hope that anyone unable to give a warm, loving home to a child would at least be able to give a child to a warm, loving home.

A friend of mine became pregnant by rape, and knowing she could never love that child (although she did WANT a child, just not by rape), she found a family to adopt her baby. When she eventually miscarried, she was heartbroken! She still didn't want the baby, but she was heartbroken that the little child didn't even have the chance to live.

You never know
theta sigma writes: Wednesday, January, 23, 2008 12:40 AM
That child could have been the next Einstein, Socrates, Lincoln … … …

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That child could have been the next Hitler, Stain, Moa, McVeigh, Sirhan, Bundy, and on and on … … …

Alison, you are sick.....
Alison is one sick individual, and Walter's no better. I don't think I've ever heard of anything more disturbing than a sweet little bonding "ceremony" marking the "convenient" murder of a child, a child who is not a "gift from the universe", but a gift from God.

I became a mom after nine years of infertility treatments through the unselfish love of a young lady who gave her precious son life and gave him up for adoption because she put his needs before her own. He has been such a joy and blessing to me and many others and is now in college preparing for a career as a pastor. There is no telling what Alison's child may have given to the world, but now we'll never know.

Alison should not be allowed to be in a position in a public university where she holds influence over young women.

This whole story just makes me really, really sad and angry.

How Is This Related To Feminism?!
First of all, the woman is married, and by Adam's feminazi stereotypes, feminists do not marry, right? They are supreme self absorbed being who do not need men. Or have I read him wrong in all his women bashing articles.

Also, the so-called feminist and her HUSBAND made this choice, TOGETHER. Why isn't Adams ripping into the man....? Hmmm? Can't answer?

Look, I am not pro-abortion. Not in the least, especially in circumstances as this one. I felt they would've been great parents, given the sensitivity of the letter, HOWEVER, they BOTH took the easy way out.

The universe did bring them a gift to their door, they were just too cowardly to deal with it.

Once again, Adams is on a roll and women are in his cross hairs. The woman is married and her HUSBAND is just as guilty of this.

This is about abortion, not Adam's angst against all women because he has no sweetheart to spend Valetine's day with.

The whole article
The whole article is worth reading. The mind set of this woman is, I don't know how to put, demented. Is this the new intimacy? Beware the smiling face? Over morning coffee they each write a letter. Such genility, such compassion. What bitter milk those breasts would have given. This view of life is sterile, barren.

Dr. K

So Kim...
...are you suggesting that low income people should have their children aborted? Only the rich deserve to reproduce by your standards?

And just what type of person does this make you?

old social worker
No, I used group home as a polite way to say orphanage only they aren’t really orphans. The parents are either in jail, on drugs, homeless or missing. I’m not asking for more money or trips to Disney. All I ever wanted was some time; for people to give of themselves. The whole struggle in a nutshell was to get these kids not to repeat their parents’ life. Of course people gave money. I also remember trips to Great Adventure, camping, skiing and once to Williamsburg. All those things were great, but it didn’t make up for not having a mom or dad. Children have a natural desire and need for the attention and affection of adults. That’s what I’m talking about: giving one’s self to others; and that is sadly lacking when compared to the multitude who oppose abortion.

Religiouslib
I happen to agree with you--although a large majority of liberals are pro-choice, conservative women also have abortions as well, aand also use a form of birth control to prevent pregnancies.

Adams is on a feminist kick for the last month. He had very watery and whiney arguments. Methinks he has several inadequacies that he is unable to cope with ATM, which is why each article points at the feminists. Which also leads me to believe we will be seeing 3 redundant Demosthenes posts pretty soon on the evils of women.

In all seriousness, abortion is terrible, you and I both know this. Instead of directing his article on the insensitivty of this couple, he makes it a feminist issue.

To be sure, liberal feminists will defend prochoice, but so will silent conservatives as well. It really is an issue for everyone and not bipartisan.

The fetus doesn't have an R or an L after its name. It doesn't care. It wants to live and both parties have been repsonsible for aborting it.

shells
how are you doing

i am very impressed with your post.

you asked the right question, it is interesting to me that it is always males who seem to be the most vehement about abortion but never blame the male.