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Monday, January 07, 2008
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
My Anti-Feminist Fatwa
by Mike Adams
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In 2004, Elizabeth Ervin, then-Director of the UNC-Wilmington Women’s Resource Center (WRC) sent a mass email to some feminists participating in a discussion on a list serve at Dartmouth College. Under the subject line “I need some support!” she complained that a group of feminist speakers coming to give a talk during Women’s History Month (formerly known as “March”) had received death threats. She suggested I was responsible for the death threats. Ervin said:

“…I'm tired of having to pay so much attention to a guy who lies and distorts and smirks and issues anti-feminist fatwa!”

In response to her accusation that I had encouraged death threats, another feminist suggested that letters be sent directly to me showing support for the WRC. To this, Ervin responded with the following:

“I want there to be some negative consequence for him, but as long as he can turn everything into a column and stir up his readers (and let them do his dirty work for him), then I'm not sure there will be.”

Here, Ervin backs off her claim that I directly ordered the death threats. She instead suggested that I allowed them to be issued on my behalf. In other words, mine was a sin of omission, not commission.

Ervin’s defamatory accusations are simply ludicrous for several reasons:

1. Christians do not issue “fatwa.” Only members of the “religion of peace” issue “fatwa.”

2. I have not engaged in any act of violence since March of 1988. When assaulted, I simply took care of the situation myself without sending a mass email under the subject line “I need some support!” While I regret the physical injury suffered by my attacker, I could not prevent it because, at the time, I was a liberal and did not have a gun that would have sent him running before any altercation occurred.

3. It is unlikely that any death threat was ever issued in 2004 to any WRC speaker. I suspect that Ervin made up the entire incident in order to get attention and funding for the WRC. UNCW has suffered an epidemic of fake crime stories in recent years – fake burglaries, rapes, robberies, and assaults. Virtually all of them have been staged by women seeking attention. Many of these women believe that the ends (feminizing the campus) justify the means (lying about the persecution of women).

But fortunately for Ervin and her feminist support group I have done some research and I’ve have actually found a college professor who issued a real fatwa. Since a) the professor issued the fatwa against Marxists and, b) most feminists are Marxists, this should give the ladies on the Dartmouth College feminist list serve something productive to do – as opposed to falsely accusing non-violent Christians of issuing (or encouraging) death threats.

Read carefully the following excerpts of an email sent by Kent State professor Julio Pino to a Marxist list serve based in Utah:

Subject: A Fatwa on Louis
From: Julio Pino:
jpino@kent.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:01:37 -0700

Woe, excuse me homes, I didn't realize that to post an opinion on the Marxism List one needed to print academic credentials first. But you asked for it. Should you want a complete record of my publications on Brazil, Marxist pedagogy, etc, I'll supply that too.

Julio Cesar PinoResearch ArticlesRefereed

"Fernando Ortiz, Gilberto Freyre and the Myth of Mulataje." The Cuba Project, Queen's College and Graduate school, City University of New York, 2000.

"Caribbean Culture Zones". Encyclopedia of World Geography. 2000.

"Fidel Castro." Cuba. Edited by Louis A. Perez. The Oryx Press.2000.

"Raúl Castro." Cuba. Edited by Louis A. Perez. 2000.

"Fidel Castro." 20th-Century World Leaders.1999.

"Fidel Castro." The Sixties in America.1999.

"Bay of Pigs Invasion." Great Events from History: North American Series. 1997.

"The Bay of Pigs Invasion Repulsed." Censorship. 1997.…

Ya, suficiente Mi Senor? I get paid to teach and write for a living. Get it?…

Touche! That means my only recourse is to issue a fatwa: The Moderator of the "Marxism List" and all those who willingly help him conduct it are hereby sentenced to death. al-Asad Ibn Pino

It should be noted that Julio Pino uses several names on the internet when spreading his message of mass murder and violence. Among them are “Al-Assad Ibn Pino,” “Julio Assad Pino,” “Julio Cesar Pino,” and simply “Julio Pino.” Further note that the moderators of the aforementioned Marxist list serve chose to delete the last few characters of his Kent State email address, presumably for privacy reasons. I chose to undelete them because I am confident that jpino@kent.edu is the only email address registered to a “Julio Pino” beginning with the first five characters “jpino” used to author emails using more than one of the common internet names for Kent State’s Julio Pino.

If I am wrong, feel free to sue me for defamation, Julio. Your reputation is worthless.

It is probably about time for my readers to get back in touch with Kent State’s Provost (provost@kent.edu) to see whether the university still defends Julio Pino and insists that he uses no university resources to advocate mass violence.

Hopefully, the ladies on the Dartmouth College feminist list serve will help me do my “dirty work” by joining in my mission of working against, not for, the issuance of death threats by university professors. I guess you could say “I need some support!” in fighting real, not manufactured, threats of violence.

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Sue her
That is what she would do. Do unto other as they would do unto you

Careful. She's got the whole world...
...in her hands.

Feminist re-defined violence to include emotional or economic or psychological abuse.

"Emotional Abuse: Undermining an individual's sense of self-worth and/or self-esteem. This may include, but is not limited to constant criticism, diminishing one's abilities, name-calling"

"Economic Abuse: Making or attempting to make an individual financially dependent by maintaining total control over financial resources, withholding one's access to money, or forbidding one's attendance at school or employment."

"Psychological Abuse: Causing fear by intimidation; threatening physical harm to self, partner, children, or partner's family or friends; destruction of pets and property; and forcing isolation from family, friends, or school and/or work."

http://www.ovw.usdoj.gov

Yes. Feminists have there own agency at the United States Department of Justice to enforce the laws against mostly innocent men.

A few years ago, a woman felt afraid when we were arguing. She called 911, and I was incarcerated, then charged with battery.

Two years, three court appearances and about $1,000 later, I was able to have the charge removed from public records to avoid discussion with future employers.

I smell a Feminist Fatwa-
Who Fatwa-ed?

Women’s History Month? Hmmmmm...
I wonder if the old gals with the comfortable shoes will include such great women as Phyllis Schlafley and Maggie Thatcher?

What's funny...
...is that in our brave new world of gender equality it is ordinary, non-political women that employ and enjoy this equality, whereas feminists seem to be stuck in some kind of sexist Dark Age where they can't progress beyond making unsubstantiated allegations to get attention.

charged....
Am confused. How could you be convicted of and incarcerated for "battery". What is Legal Definition of "battery"?

More ladies with the vapors
Now the readers are "stirred up" and may do some "dirty work". Today's "feminists" needs real problems instead of causing them.

Mark R
A few years ago I went on a home visit (in a casework capacity) with a kid from my school. Her mom (now dead) had a chronic illness and dad was an explosive alcoholic. Long story short, the dad was recounting the events of the past few months and became increasingly agitated as he reflected on some situations. The dad began to punch the wall with fascinating rhythm and velocity. Holes burst into the sheetrock, stuff fell off the walls. It wasn't directed at me or anyone else- he was simply punching his wall. When I recounted the story to a couple of colleagues, on of them went nuts that I didn't call the police! She was absolutely aflame with , "That's intimidation! You shouldn't allow him to use his male privilege to intimidate and imply that could be you!!"

The guy's wife was dying and his alcoholism created other problems. I was never threatened- but this didn't matter to that lady! And its a "male privilege" to punch a wall??

Feminist Feminism
If, when GOD took a rib from Adam to create Eve, had boiled it(soften it up), we probably wouldn't have any feminists.
Other than that, God done okay.

Surprisingly incoherent
This column seems surprisingly incoherent; it starts out a typical female-bash and ends up with yet another call to find the Scarlet Pimpernel and save the world from him instead.

Mike, have you run out of ideas or do you have the flu and just cannot be bothered to do any editing?

The real feminist fatwa ...
is the one issued and carried out on the murdered unborn children. May God have mercy on the souls of these merciless, feminist heathens.

If a column can be called beautiful
...then this one was one expertly cut beautiful gem. By again turning the feminists' arguments on their heads, Mike has illustrated just how completely upside-down his unfriendly neighborhood feminists truly are.

Seeker, a small but important correction
Don't twist the Golden Rule. It's "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." A lawsuit is pretty much ruled out if the rule is followed.

Battery "Colorad
18-3-204. Assault in the third degree.
Statute text
A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if the person knowingly or recklessly causes bodily injury to another person or with criminal negligence the person causes bodily injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon. Assault in the third degree is a class 1 misdemeanor and is an extraordinary risk crime that is subject to the modified sentencing range specified in section 18-1.3-501 (3).

History
Source: L. 71: R&RE, p. 421, § 1. C.R.S. 1963: § 40-3-204. L. 77: Entire section amended, p. 961, § 10, effective July 1. L. 2004: Entire section amended, p. 635, § 4, effective August 4.

Annotations
ANNOTATION

Annotations
Am. Jur.2d. See 6 Am. Jur.2d, Assault and Battery, §§ 34-38.


Dates Anyone?
Did no one notice that Adams had to dig back to 2004 and then to 2000 to find something to rant about? That alone makes this column completely lame.

Adams, give it up
As I wrote in his last column Adams wrote about 5
good columns last year and this column like his
last one was totally lame.

And he used to be my favorite TH columnist.

The only thing that saves him on TH is the posters.
Almost always in the last year the posters are much
more interesting than the column.
See last column's posts, this one's will be as lame
as his column. My prediction.

My proposed solution write something when you have
something new and/or interesting to say. This ain't it.

AudiR10, I usually agree with you, but -
Mike Adams brilliantly found a way to give us a two-articles-in-one treat. The first part is NOT a "female-bash", as you call it; it is a WRC-bash. That group hardly qualifies as female or feminine or women or anything else resembling the fairer gender. The second part of the article points to the mis-deeds of a member of a university's faculty.

The point of the article in its entirety makes a salient observation about the corrupt nature of modern-day higher education. Overall, a rather nifty piece of writing and not the least bit "incoherent", as you call it.

here is another story
I know Elizabeth Ervin and it was about the same timeframe from mike's "story" that I had asked her if she ever read this column when he was ridiculing the WRC and she said that she hadn't but of course people were telling her about it. She went to mike's office and nicely asked him if he had a problem with her and she said he was very nice to her and said of course not. Bottom line is that mike is very brave behind his keyboard but not one-on-one.

everyone has facts?
Here are some facts. Last week the two most viewed columns on TownHall.com were:

1. My New Year's Gun Control Resolution, by Mike Adams
2. Feminism Means Never HAving to say You're Sorry, by Mike Adams.

Time for Mike Adams to retire?

That's funny.

Liberalism + feminism = fraud
At the risk of repeating myself, the problem with feminism is that it’s been usurped by the Left. In theory, there shouldn’t be any reason for anyone to have a problem with feminism. There’s nothing wrong with women (or anyone) wanting to be treated with equality. But as is always the case when the Left gets involved, what started out as a righteous cause has long since become something of a fraud. Dishonesty becomes the name of the game, and Dr. Adam’s experience is just one example. Other examples include:

- The manipulation of statistics, particularly in regard to earnings, to give the impression that women still make far less than men for equal work

- The pretense that women have no limitations, particularly in regard to strength and size, that might make them inferior candidates for certain occupations

- The labeling of any criticism, no matter how justified, as ‘sexism’

- Feigning victim hood for personal advantage

Similar tactics are used when the Left involves itself in minority’s issues, religion or even the man-made global warming debate. There is no respect for the value of truth and honesty – any means justifies the ends.

inmates running the asylum
This is ridiculous. This Erwin woman can claim a fatwa just because Mike opposes her viewpoint? Then she claims his opposition encourages violence against her just because he is against her. This is how far down the liberals have gone to try to retain credibility and sympathy. The inmates are indeed running the asylum.

I wonder
This is one of those times when I don’t understand why Dr. Adams chooses to be coy about his work. He actually does “turn everything into a column and stir up his readers (and let them do his dirty work for him)”. He is a columnist after all and often makes it a point to include his subject’s email in a link for ease of spamming. I cannot accept that Mike is naive as to the nature of the emails that will be sent as a result. Furthermore, I don’t recall him ever cautioning or informing his readers as to what constitutes an appropriate response or proper behavior. (Actually, he may have once, a few years ago.) Dr. Adams is undeniably good at what he does; but the nature of what he does is also undeniable. Another thing, why now? I must have missed the current relevance of this topic because I don’t see why he brought the whole thing up?

old social worker
I’m sure you know that the scenario you described could have taken a turned explosive at any moment. During those home visits, we were vulnerable. Your take on the situation was the right call, but I too would have been alarmed if one of my coworkers came into the office with that story.

Phileo Non Logicus
Whatever. The point in regards to Adams is that in the first case he spun a comment that is four years old, far too old to be very meaningful.

Worse, he only reports the content of the posting as "She suggested I was responsible for the death threats." The quote he provides does nothing to support that characterization. If the posting really does suggest he was responsible, he would have provided that direct quote. He then indicates that Ervin accused him of encouraging "death Threats" without providing the tiniest bit of information to support his claim.

Talk about dishonesty in higher education....

He then launches into a rehash of his long time jihad against Pino. The jury is out on Pino, and I really couldn't care, especially if the e-mail Adams cites is from 8 years ago (nothing mroe current?) and seems highly informal and possibly humerous. Regardless, the existence of a single professor with erratic and loony opinions is hardly a condemnation of higher education.

Wow, Dr. Adams!!
You got two for the price of one!!

HAHAHAHA!!!

BTW, I've contacted the provost at Kent State, five times now, and received the same form e-mail, FIVE TIMES, blathering about how they preserve the First Amendment rights, so on and so on...

I will continue to e-mail, until I get a reply that actually answers the question: "How do you justify hiring someone who calls for the death of people?"

Correction
Re "Christians do not issue fatwah": Sure they do. Bill O'Reilly issues them all the time.

Curators of Demeanor
I usually don’t read Mike Adams. I find the machinations of a lion thrashing about in the rarefied air of ivory spires to be completely disconnected from the work a day world I live in. The internet is full of much more dangerous people than letter imbued, paper covered feminists and Marxists of the matriculating class (double entendre intended).

Feminists and Marxists sitting in government offices holding hearings on workplace behavior is much more destructive to societal relations between men and women than anything Mike can research for publication.

It was and is through the courts that feminism elevates itself to curator of demeanor in the workplace. The notion that a woman can easily arrange for the removal of any man by asserting harassment has changed the workplace into a garden of egg shells. One dare not move lest they rub against another’s frail emotions.

Disgruntled Worker syndrome
Obviously, Dr. Adams doesn't like what he is doing at UNCW. His columns rail against the University all the time. In my opinion he suffers from disgruntled worker syndrome. If he is that unhappy I would suggest that he move on with his life.

Phyllis Schlafley - Good Speaker

We had Phyllis Schlafley at Planet UMass last fall and I think she did a better job than Ann Coulter does.

Oh, it was a show: Braless Smithies in white tee shirts (one complaining how she 'didn't feel comfortable' wearing just that - duh...) who all sat together so that they could all walk out when Schafley started speaking, feminists without a response when Schafley talked about how *she* worked her way through college (testing machine guns) and then totally out of the blue came the best part:

We were accused of planting the two in the question line but we didn't, we honestly didn't:

One man talked about he had been a feminist until his girlfriend physically assaulted him and he got charged with abuse. And one 30ish woman talked about how she had been a radical feminist in her college days but had found God and now has a husband and three kids and is finally happy.

Schlafley - an excellent speaker, very easy for kids to work with - those of you considering speakers for your campii should consider her.

Audi
You are an intelligent and articulate person, but once again you show that chink in your
armor--or should I say the chip on your shoulder. While you are usually spot on in every post you make, everytime the subject is feminism you display your unreasoned ire in place of your normal well thought out comments.

Lilly
Can't you for once dispense with your inane no sequiturs?


Independent Thinker: The goddess
Based upon her many posts on the subject of men and women, Audir10 has consistently displayed symptoms of what I call the “Goddess” syndrome:

She apparently thinks that she is the embodiment of the “Goddess” on a micro-scale. Her “Goddess” epiphany WRT realizing that she provides a life-support system for a functional uterus apparently grants her some esoteric insight into reality in general & human nature in particular inaccessible to we knuckle dragging, troglodyte males.

Unfortunately, she constantly blames an entire gender for not wanting to fight over the privilege of basking in her goddess-like presence. Her apparent state of “singlehood” is apparently due to the apparent short comings of the male of the species because she is so perfect in everyway, shape & form. Maybe if she didn’t take yourself quite so seriously (she is apparently a legal assistant), she might not be quite so angry at men in general…But that would detract from her quality time spent in her cloister with like-minded, enlightened “female intellectuals” in the People’s Republic of Canada.

Independent Thinker: The goddess
Based upon her many posts on the subject of men and women, Audir10 has consistently displayed symptoms of what I call the “Goddess” syndrome:

She apparently thinks that she is the embodiment of the “Goddess” on a micro-scale. Her “Goddess” epiphany WRT realizing that she provides a life-support system for a functional uterus apparently grants her some esoteric insight into reality in general & human nature in particular inaccessible to we knuckle dragging, troglodyte males.

Unfortunately, she constantly blames an entire gender for not wanting to fight over the privilege of basking in her goddess-like presence. Her apparent state of “singlehood” is apparently due to the apparent short comings of the male of the species because she is so perfect in everyway, shape & form. Maybe if she didn’t take yourself quite so seriously (she is apparently a legal assistant), she might not be quite so angry at men in general…But that would detract from her quality time spent in her cloister with like-minded, enlightened “female intellectuals” in the People’s Republic of Canada.

Why Dr. Adams rants
To the uninitiated, stupid or libtard obfuscators, Dr. Adams has stated in previous columns the reason that he writes on about these issues. I would suggest that you either educate yourself on this or remain silent since it makes you appear ignorant and willfully ignorant. I hope Dr. Adams continues to write about the feminist/islamofascist/libtard hypocrisy as long as it continues, much to the detriment of a free society. Too many writers lack the conviction to actually try to accomplish something, rather than pen an occasional column.

Correction
Based upon her many posts on the subject of men and women, Audir10 has consistently displayed symptoms of what I call the “Goddess” syndrome:

She apparently thinks that she is the embodiment of the “Goddess” on a micro-scale. Her “Goddess” epiphany WRT realizing that she provides a life-support system for a functional uterus apparently grants her some esoteric insight into reality in general & human nature in particular inaccessible to we knuckle dragging, troglodyte males.

Unfortunately, she constantly blames an entire gender for not wanting to fight over the privilege of basking in her goddess-like presence. Her apparent state of “singlehood” is apparently due to the apparent short comings of the male of the species because she is so perfect in everyway, shape & form. Maybe if she didn’t take HERSELF quite so seriously (she is apparently a legal assistant), she might not be quite so angry at men in general…But that would detract from her quality time spent in her cloister with like-minded, enlightened “female intellectuals” in the People’s Republic of Canada.

hold on
I found nothing wrong with Audi’s comment. It is not based on feminism. It is based on the fact that the column is incoherent. The connection is tenuous at best and the relevance is nonexistent. Why did he even write it?

wiseone: Really?
Really? What equality? Thanks to the lobbying efforts of feminists focused on chivalrous “secular progressive” male politicians & judges, today’s women children live increasingly “responsibility optional, consequence free” lives. Women have the majority of civil, education, reproductive, marital, divorce, child-custody, and child-support rights in America. Result? Women are abusing “No-Fault Divorce”: women apply for 70% of all divorces while utilizing children as financial assets in order to leverage the largest amount of de facto Alimony: i.e., child support. Why find a new boyfriend if you don’t have an ex-husband to subsidize your new love life. Given their child custody monopoly, mothers commit 60% of all child abuse. Moreover, in recent poll 30% of women were willing to commit maternity fraud (lying about her fertility or use of birth control) depending on the prospective father’s income. Fifty percent (50%) of all married women commit adultery which results in at least 1-10% of women committing the most despicable act of domestic abuse: paternity fraud (lying about her child’s real father) w/ impunity by legally forcing their husbands to pay for some else’s children. Why not have an affair if you have an ambulatory wallet to pay for consequences of said affair. Women routinely employ abortion as de facto birth control that results in 25 % (1.4M) of all children conceived yearly being aborted for pure convenience. Also, since Women unilaterally decide to have children out of wedlock at least 37% of the time, those same chivalrous male politicians enacted social welfare programs ($1.4T per year) that benefit promiscuous irresponsible women at the expense of the taxpayer base: majority male top 50% of income earners pay 96% of all INCOME TAXES. Why do ostensibly normal people think that gender equality exists when it’s clear that we are living in an increasingly gynocentric, socialist dystopia.

Independent Thinker
If Lily did that, she would be mute :):):):)!

wiseone: Really?
Really? What equality? Thanks to the lobbying efforts of feminists focused on chivalrous “secular progressive” male politicians & judges, today’s women children live increasingly “responsibility optional, consequence free” lives. Women have the majority of civil, education, reproductive, marital, divorce, child-custody, and child-support rights in America. Result? Women are abusing “No-Fault Divorce”: women apply for 70% of all divorces while utilizing children as financial assets in order to leverage the largest amount of de facto Alimony: i.e., child support. Why find a new boyfriend if you don’t have an ex-husband to subsidize your new love life. Given their child custody monopoly, mothers commit 60% of all child abuse. Moreover, in recent poll 30% of women were willing to commit maternity fraud (lying about her fertility or use of birth control) depending on the prospective father’s income. Fifty percent (50%) of all married women commit adultery which results in at least 1-10% of women committing the most despicable act of domestic abuse: paternity fraud (lying about her child’s real father) w/ impunity by legally forcing their husbands to pay for some else’s children. Why not have an affair if you have an ambulatory wallet to pay for consequences of said affair. Women routinely employ abortion as de facto birth control that results in 25 % (1.4M) of all children conceived yearly being aborted for pure convenience. Also, since Women unilaterally decide to have children out of wedlock at least 37% of the time, those same chivalrous male politicians enacted social welfare programs ($1.4T per year) that benefit promiscuous irresponsible women at the expense of the taxpayer base: majority male top 50% of income earners pay 96% of all INCOME TAXES. Why do ostensibly normal people think that gender equality exists when it’s clear that we are living in an increasingly gynocentric, socialist dystopia.

Non-violent feminists
My first experience in dealing w/ ostensibly non-violent feminists occurred in the early 90’s when I lived in Seattle Washington. Ms.Paglia, the famous feminist, was scheduled to speak at the University of Washington. Her lecture was open to the general public and I was interested in hearing about her views on “gender feminism.” Unfortunately, the lecture was cancelled because she received numerous death threats from persons who characterized themselves as being FEMINISTS & her body guards couldn’t guarantee her safety.

Non-violent feminist
dMy first experience in dealing w/ ostensibly non-violent feminists occurred in the early 90’s when I lived in Seattle Washington. Ms.Paglia, the famous feminist, was scheduled to speak at the University of Washington. Her lecture was open to the general public and I was interested in hearing about her views on “gender feminism.” Unfortunately, the lecture was cancelled because she received numerous death threats from persons who characterized themselves as being FEMINISTS & her boy guards couldn’t guarantee her safety.

Lilly
You may find it surprising, given your typical, narrow-minded, liberal insistence that all conservatives are motivated by the same marching orders, that Bill O'Reilly is not one of my favorite personalities. I often agree with him but, at times, I do not.

If he has ordered the death of, or encouraged others to kill someone, I would certainly not agree with him.

Since he issues these fatwas "all the time" you should have no trouble citing one instance where he has done so.

lilly
Why is it every time you write something silly, I think it could not get any worse and then you go and prove me wrong? Shoot, maybe there is something to that term “loco weed”

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
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Jack
You said:
..."The point in regards to Adams is that in the first case he spun a comment that is four years old, far too old to be very meaningful."

Honestly, the application of this bogus debate tactic, "old news", is wearing thin.

How many years do you think the abolitionists railed against slavery before effecting change?

Any "news" relevant to any ongoing battle continues to be meaningful as long as the enemy continues to rage.

Your weak response, however, indicates an uptick on the side of sanity.

mikescott
I said as much in my criticism.

The posters are better than the article. That's
often why I visit his articles. See my posts on
his last article. The discussion had little to
do with the column

As I said before he used to be my favorite TH
columnist. I am not the only one who feels this
way based on posts from previous articles.


Mama-hat
Au contraire. Your analogy to slavery is actually a good point: abolitionists had a contemprary abomination right in front of them. They had no need to dig back into old issues and misrepresent/spin out of date events. If the battle was outside a raging, as you say,then Adams would have plenty of contemporary issues to address. Demosthenese, for example, does a very nice job illuminating the issues. I happen to AGREE with Demosthenes (except for his obvious contradiction): but I am appalled by Adams' rhetorical techniques.

The "old news" mantra is a favored
Clinton technique, but not too old for Hillary to dig up comments and essays Obama produced in GRADE SCHOOL.

In truth, what was once modern feminism is dead. That some zombies who haven't realized they are dead are still hankering for attention and headlines isn't hard to believe. Cong. can't kill any program it once started.

Remember, many "racist" and "bigoted" attacks have been fake events generated by the "targets" themselves. I'll remind you of some:

1997 Duke U. fake black doll in noose; 2 black students guilty but praised by Duke pres

2003 racial epithets written on dorm doors; written by black students

2005 racial, other threats on dorm walls, Wooster, OH; written black studies students

2007 “anti-Muslim” flyers at Geo Wash U brought campus wrath against Young Amer Found (cons); written and distrib by leftists

2007 Pro Kerri Dunn at Claremont McKenna Coll claimed anti-Semitism; did herself

2007 noose on black prof door Columbia—hoax?

Demosthenes
Except for your double postings, well said. Your comments on who really has "rights" in this country was spot on.

I thought of going into men's divorce exclusively when I came out of law school. If one tries to apply any logic to this area of the law, it drives you crazy.

Adams, You're Losing Your Credibility
I used to really like your articles, but it seems recently your articles are based upon particular individuals who happen to rain on your parade one way or another.

Fortunately for you, you have an outlet you get paid for, and hence we have these articles of you trashing one group or another based upon one person's actions. We get to read the dirty little emails between you and the individual, and amazingly you supply us the email address of the culprit who ruined your day so that the entire TH groupies will spam hate mail.

You know exactly what you're doing.

So don't sit there doe-eyed and say, "Hmm?! You're getting death threats? Not my fault babe..." Sure, Mike, you didn't tell people to go out an threaten the fems, but you do realize what your words and action do can and will influence those who aren't very bright and have no control.

In fact, I think you happen to be a little malicious. Sometimes you fight the good fight and have an honorable motive. But lately, you've come across like a petulant devious child.

"Someone hurt my feelings! No Fair! They stink! Here's their email address! Tell them they're mean too!"

Your pattern is getting old. Are you a journalist or a revenge monkey?

Cookie
It's true that women used to have all the force of alimony and child support on their sides before "modern" feminism, and now they have domestic abuse and child abuse as accusaions.

One of my most "progressive" friends, whose first husband really ran the household and raised both kids while working full time, pulled the abuse and moiestation rabbits out of the hat when she divorced the first time and flattened her first husband. But it was a rarer application then. It is evidently really common now.

Men are forced out of their homes on domestic violence injunctions and then deprived of their children by sexual molestation charges. BUT, they are still obligated to meet all of the financial obligations.



Demosthenes
Yes, Demosthenes, we get it.

You hate women, we know already....

You've been humiliated repeatedly, we know...

And by the way, AudiR10 is 50 times the man you ever could hope to be. Simply because she is female, outspoken, happy, and independant, you have the need to pig pile on her. Why? Because types like you need to.

Sorry, bud, but if you're going to dish it, you better take it---like a man.

renny
Yes, old news is favored by some. I can’t say whether that is a good or bad thing. (Ever heard of Hanoi Jane?) But the point is no reason is given for why this particular incident is being brought up at this time. It comes across as out of the blue. Also the connection with the Pino case is contrived.

You know, I was burgled once by a man. Hence men are bad. Your story about the woman and divorce is probably true. Hence women are bad. Those hoaxes you listed are true so racism doesn’t exist; but the next time I have to prep the body of a child that was stomped to death by its father, I’m going to have a hard time believing that women just routinely trump up abuse charges to soak their ex-husbands.

Male affirmative action?
A lot of social change has occurred in the last 25 years. One of the things that has changed is that females are outperforming males academically. Institutions of high learning are having to institute affirmative action programs to get enough males admitted. Here is an article stating that in 2005 females made up 57% of college students.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2005-10-19-male-coll ege-cover_x.htm

Near where I live......
In a town near where I live in South Carolina, the police chief was fired from his job for spousal abuse. It was clear to all that he was guilty, but his wife forgave him! The local prosecutor still took it to trial and lost to a hung jury ...... three times. I am still scratching my head on this one. After his third loss the prosecutor dropped the charges

Swampfox, the reason is clear
Men don't go to college anymore because they are constantly portrayed as bumbling dolts and are not respected by society in any way. Why get a degree to earn more money simply so that some gold-digger can come along and lie to you about how she loves you deeply and will do whatever you want. Right up to the wedding night. Then, you are nothing but a meal ticket and if she is magnanomous (or her clock is ticking) she will let you make love to her until she is pregnant.

Men get married to hopefully have a permenant supply of sex, women get married so that they never have to have sex again.

Swampfox
"It was clear to all"? QUite obviously, it was not as clear as you think. Certainly, the jurors in the case did not agree.

Feminist Fatwa
Thought I smelled something... Who Fatwa-ed?

Elsewhere in TH someone posted in their blog that Hillary had a "Muskie Moment."

Perhaps that was what I smelled instead.

Mountain Rose
I understand that you’re a woman. Is Rich L. right? Is that how you operate?

To Jack
Jack, ""It was clear to all"? QUite obviously, it was not as clear as you think. Certainly, the jurors in the case did not agree." The prosecutor was presented with a hung jury three times, some jurors did and some did not. Nevertheless, he was not convicted ................ neither was O.J.

Swampfox
Are on record as suggestign that public opinion should replace the jury system? If so, I will note that.

Rich L. - no offense,
but have you ever tried giving your wife what she wants in bed?

If you don't know what that is, that could be the biggest obsticle to both of you having what you want.

The popularity of shows like "Sex in the City," "Gossip Girl," and most daytime Soap Operas show that women indeed DO have an avid interest in sex, but since women are different than men in their sexual appetites, it leads to many misunderstandings in the bedroom.

I would like to gently suggest to the men here that the best way to get more sex out of your wives is to learn about the ways she secretly wants to be seduced.

Seduction is the best part of the whole business for women, while it is tedious for men.

I remember trying to show a movie to my ex-husband that I thought was very sexy, and thought it would show him how I wanted to be seduced, and HE FELL ASLEEP!!!

If your wife is feminine, she may be trying to tell you how to get her hot in many indirect ways, because women want to be seduced by the man they love. They secretly fear that saying it out loud will take the power out of the seduction.

Just knowing this will help you to listen for the cues in your daily conversations, or help you to ask questions when when you are not in the bedroom.

One way to snoop into her fantasy life is to check out the Romance novels she may be reading, to see what trips her trigger. Or ask her what she thinks is the sexiest 10 movies of all time, watch them together (over a period of tiem), and get her to explain what is so sexy about them (and actually listen). You never know where those conversations may lead...

Perhaps this seems like a lot of work to you, but if sex is as important as most men say it is, isn't it worth a little work to make your sex
life good for both of you?

MikeR
Is that a proposal? (tee hee)

If not, see my post above.

Mountain Rose
Nice job.

To Jack
The state brought the charges against the police chief. The state could not get a conviction, because three juries could not agree. Therefore, the state could not put him in prison. In my eyes and in the eyes of many, he is guilty. I am allowed to have my opinion.

renny
Yeah, some of their nonsense is starting to bounce back on them. Roseanne screamed bloody murder when she had to hand over a fortune to Tom Arnold, who like most women in that situation, deserved none of it. Same thing with that feminist blonde, Joan Lunden, that used to do Good Morning America on ABC. She screamed about how unfair it was that she had to give so much to her stay at home husband. Gosh I love it when the tables are turned. Kinda like Mike Adams. He is a master at turning ridiculous arguments around on the person who first utters the nonsense.

MikeR
Thanks!

SwampFox
Context is everything in this case. Domestic violence issues often "seem" cut and dried. That doesn't mean they are cut and dried. It makes me nervous when someone suggests a person is "obviously guilty", especially in the face of the grand old American principle of innocent until proven guilty. And this goes double in cases of Domestic Violence, where things are often not as they seem.

In the case you cite, the state brought charges, which is not the same as the accused being gulty. If the jury could NOT decide on guilt, then I have to presume he was innocent.

BTW- the movie I was trying to show my
ex-husband, to show him how to seduce me?

Don Juan DeMarco: especially the opening sequence, where he seduces the woman in the hotel dining room. I highly recommend the movie to help men understand the sexuality of women

Your wife may have a different fantasy, however.

Incidently, MYSTERY is an important component to sexual attraction, and if the two of you can try and maintain a bit of mystery in your relationship, romance is more likely to flourish.

If you sit around the house wearing a dirty tattered T-shirt with your hand... well anyway, doing an immitation of Al Bundy, this does not add to the mystery.

One last thing and then I am off
If your wife starts to feel sexy and desirable again, she may lose weight and start to keep up her appearance again (no guarantees).

The hormones released by a sexually aroused woman often leads to weight loss.

It is really worth the time to make the satisfaction of your wife a project.

Mtn Rose
PUT ALL OF THIS, AND THE STUFF FROM THE OTHER ADAMS' COLUMN ON YOUR BLOG!!!

NOW!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Those of you
finding fault with Mike's reference to "old news" of 2004 seem to miss the connection he clearly makes to the Pino situation, which is current. Perhaps Mike might have clarified it stylistically, had he started with Pino's Fatwa and then referred to his past experience with, " I'm reminded of the time . ." . Regardless, his connection between the historic personal anecdote and the current lack of condemnation of radicals teaching at tax supported schools without challenge, ( except where he brings it ). Further, his reference of the two situations to the term "Fatwa" is the central theme here, not the 2004 incident itself. It is sad that so many read but do not comprehend, these are the same folks who think they listen, yet often fail to hear.

Lily's Fartwas
Lily issued a fartwa,and boy does it stink

Bakedbones
And many are those who complain about the many who dont' read, yet do not themselves pay attention. What's the date on the e-mail that Adams provides?


Mountain Rose, I have heard there are
women out there that don't fit the description I described, but I have not met one in any of my relationships. Therefore, I, being smart, stayed single and watched as friend after friend got taken to the cleaners. I have some friends that have stayed married, but to do so, they have to admit they are wrong when they are right and that is also something that I won't do!

Perhaps my sex drive is not sufficiently strong enough to overcome my intelligence and pride. I don't think with the "wrong" head just because some pretty girl tries to flatter me.

I have always thought that my sex drive was above normal and the relationships that I have had, it did not seem to be the problem (at least none told me so). I have been told that I "didn't spend enough on them", that I was stubborn, or that it "wasn't me". All the normal reasons when the truth is simply that we weren't right for each other.

If you are good to your husband, good for you and him. If it is because he has learned not to argue with you because he can't win, then my sympathy to him.

To bakedbones
No one is protesting his attack on Pino, attack away.

Jack
Good one. I did, indeed, miss the 2000 date. Still, the fact that Pino is still on the faculty and has neither retracted his "Fatwa" nor changed his ways while continuing at KSU makes the entire matter both current and relevant to the political climate. A Fatwa is not a joke to be shrugged off, but a serious death threat, and certainly not appropriate intellectual response to any disagreement that should be espoused by a supposed scholar. I believe the issuance of a documented death threat should be sufficient grounds for dismissal of any faculty, regardless of tenure, as an act of moral turpitude. Not having a copy of the school's employment contract handy, I cannot be certain, but I know the State of Ohio would revoke a real estate license for less, so I would hope a similar requirement exists in our university systems.

To Jack
Jack writes, "What's the date on the e-mail that Adams provides?" Good point. It does seem that Pino needs to be taken out to the woodshed, but Dr. Adams needs to realize that this is 2008, not 2004 or 2000.

Swampy
My point was that the age of reference material, which several posters have pointed to as making the article worthless, is itself the moot point here. The article was just another way for Mike to reflect inequity in the liberal thoughts permeating our academic societies. In fact, the ongoing employment of Pino is no worse than the continuing Feminazi movement that still grips so many schools, so both past accounts relate clearly to both current conditions.

I believe Mike Adams is
>" talk during Women’s History Month (formerly
>known as “March”) had received death threats.
>She suggested I was responsible for the death
>threats. Ervin said: "

Notice how MIKE ADAMS WRITES ABOUT HIM SELF AND HOW HE WAS WRONGED ALL THE TIME? (waaa snif sob)

I believe her, you are a hostel hateful nut. I am afraid you are going to exercise your 'Second Amendment guarantees to keep and bear a firearm' and shoot some one, the way you talk.


>"My Anti-Feminist Fatwa"

You are NUTS! Not funny or sarcastic. You are a little little man who shouts loud.


>"If I am wrong, feel free to sue me for
>defamation, Julio. Your reputation is
>worthless.


WOW! you have issues. From what I heard your Rep on UNC is not that great either, ie not worth defending.

This just proves NUTS on the extreme right or left need to be ignored and those with common sense and want to put AMERICA FIRST, not some party ideology, and we need to unite as Americans and reject the Mike Adams's and Julio Pino's of the world. We can let the extra small minded self centered whinny babes to their little world of hate, division and self interest.

PUT AMERICAN FIRST!

Bakedbones
The dates are only moot points if one accepts Adams premise, which you apparently do. I do not.

If there were current information supporting Adams' point of view, I would expect to see it. The use of something from 8 years ago undermines his case. Has Pino retracted anything? I have no idea, but I wager you do not know anything either.

Worse yet is the lack of context. I read the e-mail as a joke, son. One does not issue a fatwa beginning with "Touche". What is hte nature of the conversation following that e-mail. Did Pino continue to post? If so, he was certainly joking, because he couldn't post to a list serve whose owners were under a fatwa of death.

Thus I suggest that Pino did not issue a real Fatwa and has done nothing more problematic than hold a political view of which Adams disapproves.




For Demosthenes
The equality I spoke of is this.

No matter what political, social, or political laws we enact as a asociety, there are certain natural laws that always enforce themselves.

As Mountain Rose pointed out, the true feminists are women like Thatcher, Schlafly, Rice, and Libby Dole. These women didn't talk about being as good as the men at what they do. They just went out and did it.

Women who work the system may make out well financially but you know they 'pay' for it in other ways. The fact is that one can only get out of life what one puts into it. If one inputs garbage one gets garbage back. If a woman treats her kids as a source of income how much love can she expect to get in return? How long will it be until she finds she is nothing more than a support system to her own kids?

I can agree with you that many women abuse the system, and many of the men you describe as "chivalrous" may in fact be nothing more than hen-pecked. But there is nothing ignoble about the men in a society looking after the women and children. Some would say that this is the single most defining characteristic that separates civilized men from barbarians. In fact, if there were something wrong with this phenomenon it would not be that it is chivalrous, but that it is in fact chauvinist.

To Jack
Adams has a running battle with Pino. It has been going on since early last year.

Biblical Solution
For those of you gentlemen who are Christian and know Scripture, Beth Moore released her study on the Book of Daniel in the last year and it is excellent. I won't even bother dating a woman unless she's gone through the Daniel study. She certainly can't call me a male chauvinist since the study was written by a woman. Plus considering the inflation that we're experiencing, which may become prophetic, if she's not willing to humble herself at first, I'll just let inflation burn any existing inner brat out of her.

To skey1271
Biblical Solution?..........What in the heck are you talking about?

Social Worker-Feminism's foot solderer
"The San Diego grand jury report emphasized the role of social workers as plainclothes police that in practice eclipse the regular police. "We found the some police officers abdicate their role as fact finders to the social worker," they write, "Detectives will integrate elements of the social workers' investigation into their own reports, instead of performing independent investigation." Police are generally held to higher standards of evidence than social workers, who can pursue cases even when police conclude insufficient evidence exists." (Baskerville 2007).

http://www.amazon.com/Taken-into-Custody-Fatherhood-Marriag e/dp/1581825943

When did it become illegal for a person (read: man) to get drunk in their own home? When did it become illegal for a person to damage their own property?

Answer: When feminist laws are enforced.

Battery
In the United States, the common law defines battery as "harmful or offensive". Battery need not require body-to-body contact.

In a feminized country, a regular guy can be legally innocent, yet still be punished. The feminized government charges him with anything as the definition of a crime are broad.

Feminism criminalizes divorced dads
Deadbeat Dads Receive The Boot And Lose Driving Privileges.

A new law went into effect on October 23, 2007 that allows Illinois to take away driving privileges and boot the car of dads who owe child support.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/10/24/deadbeat_ parents_can_now_receive_the

Since 2002, my support statement has not been accurate, for example, at one point they owed me about $19,000 in credits for their poor accounting practices.

No a dad does not get due process. The feminist government boots and cancels, then makes the dad prove that the government's accounting statement is wrong.

A little unconstitutional for being the freest country in the world and a little inconvenient if a man have to get to work to help pay for the child support, as courts take their time about straightening out problems.

YOU CAN TELL BY THE SMELL
i learned after more than 20 years in the red republic of eugene oregon that one easy way to tell if a woman is a feminist is by the smell. they stink. stink bad. as rye cooder says, you can tell by the smell. ptuuueeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy. wash that will ya!!!!!!!! hopefully this will be a help to many of you.

So very sad
I have never seen such a sad collection of men in my life than on this message board. Mr. Adam's diatribe against women is shameful. Mr. Ruffolo - you come off like someone who actually did hit your woman and are trying to blame her for it. The men who support these twisted archaic views are clearly lacking any confidence. You fellows remind me of someone I once knew - the terminal victim. NOTHING he did was ever his fault. The crimes he committed, the people he hurt while drunk, the property damage and the felony charges against him for theft. All of it was a "conspiracy" against him. Puhleeze. A $19,000 error that you can't get fixed Ruffolo? Don't you have your bank statements, canceled checks? Come on.
Give me a real man anyday- strong, accountable, confident and not intimidated by a woman with a mind. Stop whining about your poor poor self and start seeing you for who you are and not the victim of some grand scheme by women to take over the world. And NO, I don't consider myself a feminist - whatever that means. I am very happily married with six nearly grown children and the pianist at my local church. I adore my long time hubby for his strength and heart. I also have two master's degrees and 25 years of teaching behind me. I am about fair and just treatment for all - no matter the sex, color or age. And GC - take the time to smell yourself. Boys need to bathe their privates too. As my grandson says, he who smelt is probably the one who dealt it.

Eugene
Eugene has been Blue as in Liberal-Socialist since at least the 1940's because I remember back that far. We on the east side of the Cascades are sensible red conservatives. We just get outvoted by the 3 Portland Metro counties and Eugene every election and then I threaten to move to Idaho!!! You have to have a sense of humor and an appreciation for satire to understand Mike's columns. I do. But I don't understand how this became a sex therapy thread.

Happy
Oh no, now you've done it. I about said what you did on a different article from Adam's about feminists, but not as eloquent as you, and I was pig piled by both men and women.

Yes, it's not just the men who are sad, but you would've been surprised to see women who coined me as undecent, immoral, and unhappy because I am self reliant, divorced, without children, and loving my life now.

Some women even wretched that we should never have been given the right to vote. Can you imagine?

I am no feminist, I believe men are clearly better suited for certain jobs than women could struggle with like law enforcement, firemen, basically anything that would require brute physical force. I also like to have a man treat me as a women because chivarly is a wonderful thing.

However, because I said most women should be self reliant because it would be absolutely risky to not advance your education or a career to only hope a man takes care of you, I was ostracized. Not every man can be relied upon, and it would be intelligent to make sure you are able to sustain yourself, and not "need" a man in your life. Men should only enhance your life, and not support it.

Multicultural Truisms
Hats off to Mighty Mike Adams and his wonderful spoofs and exposes of feminist witlessness and stupidities on the modern campus.

His latest column reminded me to re-read some old lines, such as these gems:

"Revenge is when a woman gets even with a man for what she's done to him." - American joke

"It is better to be without a wife for a year than without tobacco for an hour" - Estonian proverb

"On one issue at least, men and women agree: they both distrust women." – H.L. Mencken.

You just can't...
..trust them feminists.

You just can't...
..trust them feminists.

Mark Ruffolo
"A few years ago, a woman felt afraid when we were arguing. She called 911, and I was incarcerated, then charged with battery."

You would need to be charged with a crime first, and then brought to trial and found guilty before being incarcerated. Your telling of the tale makes me wonder what you aren't telling us all here.

and

"When did it become illegal for a person (read: man) to get drunk in their own home? When did it become illegal for a person to damage their own property? Answer: When feminist laws are enforced"

Well, if if it's "feminist laws" that require children be removed from self-imploding drunks, then good for "feminist" laws! (Note: It's family law, stupid).

I sincerely hope that you never have children if you think that would be a good environment for children to be raised in.

Mary C.

______________________________

oldsocialworker
"The dad began to punch the wall with fascinating rhythm and velocity. Holes burst into the sheetrock, stuff fell off the walls. It wasn't directed at me or anyone else- he was simply punching his wall. When I recounted the story to a couple of colleagues, on of them went nuts that I didn't call the police! She was absolutely aflame with , "That's intimidation! You shouldn't allow him to use his male privilege to intimidate and imply that could be you!!""

You don't say the size of this guy, but it sounds like he was big and strong to smash up a wall like that. If your title is true, an old woman against an alcohol-crazed psych case could be scary. You are lucky to have gotten out of there unhurt. It has nothing to do with "male privilege": mentally ill people are scary, and can do unpredictable, sometimes violent things. I hope these children were removed from his care.

Mary C.

Greg the Californian
"It was and is through the courts that feminism elevates itself to curator of demeanor in the workplace. The notion that a woman can easily arrange for the removal of any man by asserting harassment has changed the workplace into a garden of egg shells. One dare not move lest they rub against another’s frail emotions."

It is anything but easy for a woman to remove a harasser. Also, when men sexually harass a woman, it is not "frail emotion" that these turds are guilty of rubbing up against.

Mary C.


Rich L.
"Why get a degree to earn more money simply so that some gold-digger can come along and lie to you about how she loves you deeply and will do whatever you want. Right up to the wedding night. Then, you are nothing but a meal ticket and if she is magnanomous (or her clock is ticking) she will let you make love to her until she is pregnant.
Men get married to hopefully have a permenant supply of sex, women get married so that they never have to have sex again."

Perhaps if you weren't seeking women who "will do whatever you want", you would not find them dumping your sorry self once they wake up.

I can see why a normal woman would not want to have sex with you. Why they wanted to marry you in the first place is the real poser.

Mary C.

Re: Demosthenes
Can we all agree that poor little Demosthenes seems to have had a rough time with some women in his past. Now, he has to passive-aggressively lash out at all of us, because he is a big wuss! (Well said, Shells!)

Hey, at least he has stopped with that same old pasted-in, crazy message that ran through the last twenty postings he did in other articles.

Mary C.

Hello
Mary C - you ought to stop watching television to get your information about what occurs with family, children, legislation, law enforcement, criminal, and civil (including divorce) court.

Feminism of the last fifty years is unsafe and unkind to children. America has one of the highest divorce rates in the world of about 220 countries; single mother homes is about 40% of births; the birth rate is the lowest levels (parents produce average of two kids there is zero growth so no new tax payers for the government and no new customers for business); though America is home to only about 5% of the world's population, it incarcerates about 25% of the world's population of prisoners - 95% are men; since 1973 abortion has allowed mothers to kill about 43,000,000 of their babies, of which the father had no right to refuse.

So how are children served well when a legally innocent father is taken from them or is jailed by false charges of rape loses job from false sexual harassment or deadbeatness?

These facts can be googled easily. Or better stop in your county's court to see how bias judges are against men compared to women. It's free and an invitation is not needed.
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