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Monday, October 08, 2007
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Jesus and Genocide
by Mike Adams
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A lady wrote me the other day complaining about my friend Neal Boortz. She claimed Neal recently characterized pro-lifers as people who simply wanted to control women’s bodies. She said she didn’t like that. In fact, she said she tried to call in to Neal’s show to correct him but that he wouldn’t take her call. She didn’t like that either so she called me and asked me to call Neal to straighten him out because she has heard me on his show a lot – this meaning Neal must always take my calls even though I’m pro-life.

But I have some bad news for the lady. I’m not going to straighten Neal out any time soon. Instead, I’m going to straighten out the pro-life movement, which is not in a position to straighten out Neal Boortz for over-simplifying our position - this because we’ve been doing a good job of it on our own as of late.

Let me explain.

I do an exercise every semester in my freshman survey course, which, among other things, asks students which individual speaker or group they would ban from campus if they had the chance. For years, the most popular individual choices were Jesse Jackson and Jesse Helms – at least until Jesse “The Body” Ventura appeared on the political scene. The most popular group choice has always been a toss-up between PRIDE and the KKK.

But this year, pro-lifers won “Most likely to be Banned” honors and I think I know why.

In recent years, a thing called the Genocide Awareness Project (GAP) has been visiting college campuses with massive wall-sized posters of dead babies. The GAP organizers show the bloody parts of dismembered babies right in the middle of college campuses in the hopes that people will realize that the thing that is aborted is more than a mere clump of cells. They want people to know it is a baby so they will stop and think before they have an abortion.

I used to think this was a pretty good idea until my students taught me otherwise.

In the speaker-or-group-banning exercise I just mentioned, many of these students who wanted to ban the pro-lifers from campus mentioned GAP specifically. They said they did not want us bringing the pro-life message to campus because they did not want to see dead babies on the way to the cafeteria or the library. At first I thought I was sad because the pro-lifers who do not display pictures of dead babies were being lumped together with those who do.

But then I realized I was sad for another reason: Some of my students who wrote these things had experienced abortion firsthand.

And so I have been thinking and I have decided it is time for us to change the way we do a couple of things in the campus pro-life movement. First, I think we can start by replacing pictures of the dead, dismembered fetus with pictures of some live ones. Instead of reminding people of what a horrible thing they did in the past when they had an abortion we can focus on what a beautiful thing the fetus is and how much more beautiful it can be in the future.

Next, we’ll need to convince the kids that if they do not want to keep their babies there are people who do. And if they cannot take care of their babies there are people who can. This is really not as difficult as we make it out to be.

Some years ago, I asked a colleague I will call “Rob” (because that is his real name) how one of our other colleagues I will call Pat (because that is her real name) did such a fine job raising her daughter who I will call Jessica (because that is her real name, too).

His answer was just one word: “love.” But then he ruined his chance to say something really profound with just one word by adding “Her parents did it all with love.”

I thought Rob might be over-simplifying things until later when he raised a kid just as perfect as Jessica. People unwittingly reinforced Rob’s thesis by often saying “Man, Rob sure does love his boy, Emory (which is also the kid’s real name).”

And so now, thanks to a couple of liberals who love their kids, I think I have it all figured out: We take these children from very early on and love them like there’s no tomorrow. Then, after we have them firmly convinced that they are loved - because they are unique and they bring great joy to their parents who simply could not imagine life without them -we are ready to let them out into the world. Then, when tomorrow does come and the children encounter those who do not love them like their parents – those who want children to drink and do drugs and do other things children should not do – then they will not listen because the voices telling them to do bad things are coming from those who do not love them like their parents. Then it all becomes so obvious why Jesus had to speak of Satan and hell but spent even more time talking about unconditional love.

Maybe the key to not hurting those who have had abortions is stopping to remember that they are someone else’s children, too. And maybe if we would share with them the Good News of Jesus rather than the bad news of genocide, they would be convinced that we are the type of people who should keep and care for their babies.

Then, I suppose everyone would be happy and pro-lifers and pro-choicers could stop trying to show each other who is morally superior to whom and why. And I guess the babies would be happy, too.

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Good job, Mike
Pretty as a bran' new baby.

Some of those movies might be nice
you know, where the fetus is moving and sucking his/her thumb...
and sonigrams that show the beating heart of the little ones...
and the new parents who just got their dream - a baby to love...

Jesus and children
How about pictures of Jesus holding a baby or blessing a child? Or is this kind of thing completely banned at our institutions of higher learning?

Full Of It...
(...Ha!) Love, that is!

What a beautiful image - a child in the womb, a child born...the love of the child's parents, even the adoptive parents...there's every reason to bring a conceived child into the world.

Of course, the liberals want you to bring a child into the world to get $5000. Cha-ching! And don't worry that you can't really touch the money yourself, it's for your child, courtesy of...who cares! If you're not working, it's not you! And if you're dumb enough to think you can bring a quiver full into the world and grab their money, well, that won't stop you from trying, eh? (More democrats to suck up the wealth of the working class.)

Seriously, Mike, great idea. Better message. Easier than inviting Jesus Christ onto campus.

the gift
I wont pretend to know the incredible pain of a woman who hasd been violated. I wont prentend to know the panic of a 14 year old girl who let her "boyfriend" get her into the family way.

All I do know is the longing of someone who would love a child to love. Circumstances can be tragic, they dont need to be fatal. I think this approach is far prefreable to that of the hardcore activist we see now on both sides.

God bless.

a change
I have been thinking about this a lot lately. Not necessarily the abortion situation specifically, but the perception of Christians by the world (non-Christians). I have realized that for the most part they are right in condemning us because we talk policy up and down, but how often do we really show love on a day to day basis. The most simplified version of the Law of Moses came right from the lips of Jesus when He said, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and love your neighbor as yourself".

Okay so we get the first one and we've heard the second one enough to make our ears bleed, but are we doing anything more than just giving lip service? Not to drive this in a controversial direction, but this country has/is spending a ludicrous about of money in war that has accomplished little more than shooting ourselves in the foot when we could be using that money to 1)get ourselves out of debt or more importantly 2)offer the choice of life to so many in africa that struggle to find contaminated water and will eventually die because of it.

If love is what it's all about then we as Christians should lead our country in everyday acts of selflessness that would ultimately culminate in life in Africa, around the world, and even on our own soil where an estimated 46 million children have lost their lives over the past 34 years. Choose Life. Chose Love.

Re Adoption
I happen to be pro-choice, but nonetheless I have a suggestion for a direction that might be taken by pro-lifers (who, I assume, favor adoption). I have just tonight heard from a young friend who, with her husband, adopted a baby from Guatemala six years ago. The child is thriving with them and several years ago they applied to adopt a little sister for him. Their daughter was born last January. They knew that many months of paperwork and bureaucracy would lie between that event and bringing the baby home (the older child was 7 months old before Guatemala allowed them to take him). Over the past ten months, my friends have made four trips to Guatemala to visit their daughter, who is in foster dare there as per local law. The birth mother met every requirement and willingly relinquished the baby. Although the baby has been legally "assigned", the new parents were not allowed to complete the adoption process or bring her home. They named their little girl. They waited.

Last week the president of Guatemala unilaterally passed a law that violates international adoption law. It stops cold all international adoptions, including those in process, and it has no grandfather clause. These children must now be placed with any blood relation that can be found, no matter how reluctant. The boys and girls will permanently enjoy the legal status of "b******", a word I cannot write on townhall, meaning "illegitimate child". This baby will almost certainly grow up in poverty. Here she would have had every advantage of nutrition, health care, education, and loving nurture (and, for those who may care, this is an intensely religious home).

Apparently there is now no legal recourse, but any who may be inclined to protest this disastrous law are welcome to try.


It might also help
...to teach parents that their children are *capable* of making sound decisions with reasonable consistency, if provided good and conscientious teaching.
Too many people I speak to claim that children are merely dogs who cannot be taught abstinence, thus making abortion necessary.
Our kids deserve far better from their parents than an assumption of automatic wrongdoing. When parents have a high opinion of their children, they teach those children high ( standards.

To lilly
Would you consent to forgive me for speaking hatefully to you a few weeks ago? I bitterly regret my words to you.

Mike Adams
Outstanding article... It made me look at the whole abortion issue a little differently, i thank you for that.

Hate versus Love.
The esteemed Doctor Adams leads me to the water, and now it is time for a drink. The conservative movement has bee so angered by the concept of abortion that we have forgooten why we are against it. Simply put in the article, it is that we Love. As a movement however, we have been on the downside of court rulings and public perception that we have gotten angry. We must stop that view and show that we are the purveyors of Love and Life.

In order to continue our message properly, we must use the words of Our Saviour and "turn the other cheek", ignore the hate that seem successful for the other side, and promote the love of children, family and life in general in order to succeed fully.

Thanks Mike!

Correction
Sorry, I seem to have misspelled Guatamala. Don't care. Good enough for them to be misspelled after passing that rotten law.

To Taililtoolong
Sure. I don't remember what exchange you refer to.

To lilly
I'm happy that you don't. Thank you.

It has been shown
that a large percentage of abortions are to females who are basically alone, have no support, see no way to raise a baby in their already grim circumstances, so have an abortion mostly out of desperation. At the same time, American parents are spending millions going overseas to adopt children. Its crazy. As we speak, many tragic abortions could be prevented merely by assuring a distraught pregnant female that her child will be loved and cared for by adoptive parents. I'm no Rudy fan, but he claims his policies in NY reduced abortions by making this type of connection easy. Why is this not done everywhere. My first child is adopted. She was 5 days old and cost me $700, as arranged through a local lawyer and the state adoption bureacracy. 17 days from the time my wife said what would you think about adopting a baby? Sweet Lord. A man can't even get a good bird dog that cheap and fast. Why is this not possible everywhere in the states?

Nice
AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.
Beautifully put,Mike!

lilly writes:, 08, 2007 4:24 AM

I happen to be pro-choice, but nonetheless I have a suggestion for a direction that might be taken by pro-lifers (who, I assume, favor adoption).

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

Lilly all people are pro-choice.

But most of us believe if you make a choice to have sex you should be responsible for the outcome of your choice. The issue is you are not pro-responsibility.

Anyway, you never gave us the suggestion, but merely rambled on, an art form for you, about Guatemala.

Finally, Mike may have hit the formula for the college group, but not necessarily for all groups or people. My girlfriend will tend to witness with the I’m in your face accusatory your going to hell method. I have cautioned her for years that people just don’t respond to that. The problem is, she has brought so many people to the Lord that I have had to be pragmatic that many people need the 2 x 4 over the head to get the message. God obviously empowers all styles to reach all people. I call it her 2 x 4 ministry for the brick heads.

Consequences
Imagine reading in a textbook of some past generation that slaughtered their most defenseless members. Imagine reading that the society that did this thought it was enlightened.

The great tragedy of abortion, as with most forms of sin, is that we sacrifice our future for a bit of temporary pleasure in the here and now. Sadly, too many young women have been lied to. They have been told that they can have it all, that there are no consequences, that if it feels good that they should do it and anyone who disagrees simply wants to control their bodies, to quote others.

There are consequences to everything, even though they may not be readily apparent. Abortion is no exception. That is the message that should be taught, over and over again, because we didn't start to get into trouble until we started telling people that they could do whatever they wanted, without consequence.

What I don't get
...is the contradiction of some parties in claiming that abortion must be permitted (among other things) because adolescent girls might lack the responsibility needed to properly care for children.
That brings up the question of whether adolescent girls should be shouldered with the responsibility of deciding whether to kill their offspring.
It also brings up the question of whether adolscents (girls OR boys) have any business engaging in behaviors that have very adult consequences.


To Fudd:
Many persons who see nothing wrong with abortion do NOT believe in transcendant consequences. They figure as long as the woman (or girl) is not physically harmed during the procedure, then no foul.

Mike sounds like...
...a man who is ready to start a family. God bless you and your wife, and thank you for some keen and (I believe) God-given insight into this important issue.

Boortz
For the record, Neal Boortz doesn't regard anyone as being "pro-life." He insists on the term "anti-choice." He also believes (probably correctly) that nobody is ever going to change their views on abortion and doesn't take calls on the subject from anyone.

It's his show and he makes the rules.

wow
Dr. Adams is not only on the money here, he moved me in a way that none of his columns have ever done before.

Mike S. Adams
Great job.... It's about time..... After Burt's ridiculous child hate article, last week, it's nice to see that someone on the right has a clue.

I Don't Know, Mike
I don't know about that, Mike. It seems to me that as long as the pro-abortionists are trying to disguise the horror of what they are doing by claiming that abortion is nothing very serious its critical to strip off the candy-coating.

It appears that what your students want is to remain ignorant children who are unaware of what lies beyond their isolated and sheltered, little world. Its natural, but its not right.

People should be revolted by abortion. And if the sight of the real consequences of killing unborn babies makes a woman who had an abortion unhappy, distressed, and upset then GOOD -- because that realization that she murdered her baby is the only thing that can set her on the path of true repentance. The distress she feels from such images isn't a patch on the distress she'd endure for all eternity if she died with that unrepented crime staining her soul.

And if she won't repent then she deserves to suffer and to continue to suffer because a thousand years of her revulsion at the images of aborted babies couldn't begin to atone for the evil she did when she hired a hit man to snuff her child.

Incorporating more positive images of babies -- both in-utero and born -- is probably a good idea. That would reinforce the idea that a baby is indeed a baby, that it is not a blob of tissue or a non-human thing but rather a precious, human child.

But completely losing the images of the truth that abortion kills real, human babies would only play into the hands of the baby killers and their lies. After all, you don't raise money for famine relief by showing images of clean, healthy, chubby, laughing children.

Showing the pictures of aborted babies
Those who defend women's right to choose should be given a graphnic picture of what that choice is: a choice between a live and a dead baby. This means to me that in order to illustrate correctly what real choice is, pro-lifers should display the picture of a live baby next to the picture of every one that has been aborted.I have written to the leaders of the pro-life movement about this, but it has fallen on deaf ears.

jesus and genocide
Spot on Mike!While we Christians are at it why don't we apply this to the other condemning issues of the day?Like Homosexual marriage etc.My pastor spoke on this subject this past weekend."jesus came not to condemn the world,but to save it."We cannot expect "the world to see things as Christians.They aren't Christians!So let us first share the "good news".Good one Mike,keep up the good work.

DeskJockey
I am sorry you found my report "rambling"; I made it as concise as I could and still get in necessary details. And I thought the suggestion was implicit: 1) Anti-abortion people are pro-adoption people. 2) Some of you have been working at your cause for a long time and may knowof some agencies or tactics. 3) At the moment, all adoptions from Guatemala have been stopped cold, including those that are in process---there is no grandfathering. 4) The child in question has a loving and stable home eagerly waiting for her here. 5) What is waiting for her there is a life of official illegitimacy with people who have already rejected her, and probably one of extreme poverty. 6) Does anyone know of any kind of pressure that can be brought?

I intended my "rambling" as an appeal.

I should add that this is a legitimate agency adoption, not some shady private deal for money. It is (was) being handled by a reputable international adoption agency---but Guatemala draws no distinction among decent adoption and baby-selling.

To Savage99
I am not an expert in the adoptions field but my understanding is that American agencies cap the adoptive parents' age limit earlier than international agencies. A couple that marries later in life, say in the mid-thirties, and perhaps waits a couple of years to start a family then for a couple more years is unsuccessful then undergoes fertility studies and treatment, still without success, may by then be past the age limit. And I imagine that some couples choose international adoption because the know it specifically helps a child who will not have much chance in life otherwise. I do know that in the case I described, the parents wanted a sib of the same ethnicity as the child they have already adopted, for the sake of the child not feeling alone or different.

The danger of private adoptions is that sometimes money talks and everything else walks. Everybody with $10,000 to spend isn't a suitable parent. Also, unethical lawyers have been known to hire girls to produce a saleable baby.

mike
i hate to burst your bubble, but abortionist think abortions are fine. no problem here. just tissue. i can't be burdened with caring for a baby, i have a good job....they hate Jesus even more.... it's really the mind rot their parents brought them up with...btw, i won't listen to neal boortz anymore cus of the way he treats pro-life people.

Dead Baby Photos
Showing pictures of dead, dismembered babies to those who promote abortion is an aggressive act, and simply triggers their fear/attack response. They will not accept such images into their hearts bacause they conflict with their (stated) love of people and children.

Images of live, loved children can get to their hearts and maybe cause a change. Peacefully and lovingly assembling forty million people in and around Washington DC to represent the lives of those who have been destroyed in this country by elective abortion would be a much more cogent image of pro-life.

A group prayer for life, ending with a loud and simultaneous "AMEN!!" by all forthy million would do more to change the heart of the country (and Congress) than any number of dead baby pictures.


Mother of 4
Hear, hear! I completely agree with you on this issue. There probably should be more pictures of healthy fetuses on sonograms and baby pics, but pretending that what is happening isn't barbaric is not going to change the fact that it IS barbaric! There has to be a way to strike a balance, but there has to ultimately be truth told about the procedure and results of abortion.

And for Justin: Those that criticize christians aren't right. Maybe in some personal cases they have a point in their criticisms, but for the most part their criticisms are untrue and unjust. Part of loving our neighbors as oourselves is to tell them the truth---even when they don't like it. And on this issue, as all others the truth may not be pretty but is still the truth---and it must be told. I serve a God who is The Way, The Truth, and The Life---not Dr. Feel Good. Somethimes standing for the Truth is hard, but it is never wrong. You may need to reorder your priorities to consider what God says, instead of worrying about what man thinks!

Pro-life movement
If the more rabid pro-lifers split off and try to run a third party candidate, giving us Hillary as our next president, I can safely say that while I am pro-life, I will no longer support any pro-life organization who advocates a third party run.

There are issues which are just as important as abortion in this country and a third party run, splitting the conservative vote, will essentially guarantee that neither abortion nor any other issue important to conservative will be addressed by our future liberal overlords.

A side point
"I do an exercise every semester in my freshman survey course, which, among other things, asks students which individual speaker or group they would ban from campus if they had the chance."

Please tell me that there's a significant percentage who answer "I wouldn't ban anyone."

For Justin and Lilly
Justin: You said: "If love is what it's all about then we as Christians should lead our country in everyday acts of selflessness that would ultimately culminate in life in Africa, around the world, and even on our own soil where an estimated 46 million children have lost their lives over the past 34 years. Choose Life. Chose Love." Sounds like you have been listening to the Beatles (All You Need is Love.) National foreign policy should be predicated on national interests and protecting the citizens of our country, not "acts of selflessness". Acts of selflessness let our enemies know we will not defend our homeland and will lead to more 9/11's. Even Jesus said, Render unto Casear that which is Casear's and render unto God that which is God's." National foreign policy does not fall into the spiritual realm for Christians, unlike Muslims (because Islam is a geopolitical movement, not simply a religion.)
Lilly: Why isn't your friend adopting a child here in the U.S.? It sounds like your friend, other liberals like Jolie, think that foreign children are more deserving of rescue than American children. There is something deeply wrong with that attitude. With Jolie, it's like shopping for shoes,"let's get one of every color" mentality. What is your friend's excuse? Children are cheaper in Guatamala? Instead of worrying about changing foreign law over which your friend has no leverage, why doesn't she help stop the number of abortions here in the U.S. so there will be plenty of American babies to adopt?

Class survey
I was teaching criminal justice in North Carolina and the Scott Peterson case was under discussion. I explained that because of Roe v Wade, the child in Mrs. Peterson's womb was not officially considered a human until it was born, and therefore California had passed a feticide statute in order to charge Scott with two counts of murder. One of the students volunteered the comment that the fetus is just a clump of cells. I answered, "well, it sounds like you've been hit hard with the political correctness and pro-abortion stick. I guess we should just wait until she gives birth. Perhaps it will be a puppy or a basketball. There's just no way to know until it comes out, huh?" The class rightfully snickered at that student. Believing that the fetus is not a baby is the most ridiculous position pro-abortionists have taken. But since this was a class of freshmen, fresh out of our leftist public schools, that particular student was just dutifully repeating what he had been indoctrinated with. To me, that is the scariest thing about the whole incident. Where are the free thinkers?

A positive message to a terrible act
This is possibly one of the wisest messages I have ever read from Dr. Adams. He is usually funny and often insightful. But today he has shared a great secret. The world is always surprised by grace. A "grace full" response has the aroma of heaven about it and can show the "pain full" heart the path to redemption. The young people who have followed the lie of abortion already move under the condemnation of their own hearts (whether they admit it consciously or not). Grace disarms hate and allows Truth a way in.

Mother of 4
You are almost alone on this site with your truthful down to earth response to this rather strange,liberal sounding and totally offbase column by Adams. Maybe he should just speak for himself and start loving like a Christian instead of blasting all Christians who, in his opinion are not practicing love, for not doing so. Abortion is the worst sin/scourge on this planet and most especially this nation. And exposing it in all its violence and evil should not be stopped just to assuage selfish young hedonists who need to know the truth.

There are huge numbers of people and ministries and churches who offer lovingly and without judgment every help for a woman and her unborn child without judgment or contempt. And these services are well known. The baby killing continues because these women wish to continue it,not because we ugly unloving Christians are not "doing it right". Speak for yourself.

Wrong!
Neal said pro-lifers want to control a womans body. This is a biologically provable lie. The baby inside a woman is not her body. It is another person. The pictures of dead brutalized babies is reality and proof why Bortz is using euphamisms to cover his genocidal, murderous world view.

Pro-lifers have been showing pictures of live babies since Roe. The perverts still claim its a womans body in direct contradiction of biological evidence.

PhD Adams, I am with you most of the time. But your wrong. Screw the feelings of these murderous humanists. Confront them with the truth. I hope those pictures give them nightmares. They deserve a lot worse.

sigh
the main focus of chirstianity is love none and mother of 4 would do well to remmeber that. by useing hate or anger to deliver a message damages the standing of chirstianity. the crazy college yard preachers do not convert anyone to christianity they merely get ridiculded for preaching nothing but hate (there are a few exceptions but lets face a college yard preacher wants a crowd and no better way to do that then being offensive)

Making Jesus Cry
I don't recall reading about Jesus condemning or yelling and screaming at those around him who were sinners. Instead, he choose to love them inspite of what they did. He loved all sinners so much, he was willing to give up his life so that the sinners could have eternal life.

For my brothers and sisters in Christ who preach a message of hate and Hell, I will pray for you. I will pray that you will come to understand how Jesus wanted us to spread the word.

Would Jesus hold up pictures of dead babies? Would he show up at military funerals to condemn homosexuals? Would he engage in screaming matches with feminists or nonbelievers? Just what would Jesus do?

Sorry Dr. Adams
Jesus actually did talk more about Hell than He did about Heaven. His number one topic was eternal damnation and how to avoid it. Second was Heaven, and third was money.

I challenge anyone out there to find a Scripture passage which indicates God's love is unconditional.

That said, I think that Adams is correct in terms of the tactics which are effective in changing minds on abortion, and the tactics that simply shock and disgust.

RE: lilly
Such a decision by their government is certainly a tragedy. My uncle and aunt adopted a baby from China -- a country where a lot of adoptions come from because the nation's "one baby" law has filled their orphanages. Were China to pass a similar law, litterally 10s of millions, or more, babies would basically grow up without parents and in horrible poverty.

Lilly, do you happen to know the justification for that law? Seems strange to me that the government would do that, seeing as how they'd have to spend money on the social services to take care of the kids that otherwise would be taken care of by others.

P.s. I can't believe we actually are in agreement on something :p

Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
Does "Pro-Choice" always equate to "Pro-Death"? God gave us all the choice to sin or not to sin, and gave us ten simply worded instructions on how to avoid sin. He then sent His Son to die a human death on the cross so that, by believing in Him, our sins could be forgiven. He also directs us to not treat one sin as being worse than another. So, while I am against abortion, I will always remain Pro-Choice, choosing to attempt the salvation of the would be mother rather than the possibility and probability) of alienating her from a Christian life by attempting to force her not to abort rather than convincing her to abide within God's law.

This also holds true for many of the other disagreements we humans have. Sin is sin and is well described within the confines of the original scriptural writings that we refer to as the Holy Bible. We really don't need to rewrite and redefine what is there, only to read and accept what is recorded. Even within the life of Jesus Christ, I fail to find anywhere that He attempts to physically force anyone to accept Him and His teachings. He only tries to convince them with His words, His deeds, and His actions.

Deornwulf
"Would Jesus hold up pictures of dead babies?"

I think Jesus would tell the truth. We often forget what He told the woman whom the people wanted to stone. He said, "Neither do I condemn thee", but He also said, "Go and sin no more." We often overlook that latter statement.

A picture is worth a thousand words, and pictures of aborted fetuses show the harsh reality that is abortion. Such pictures put me squarely in the pro-life camp.

No, I don't think we ought to beat up (literally or figuratively) on women who have had abortions. Still, many of these women have come to realize what a tragedy abortion is, and have been some of the greatest crusaders against abortion. Many of them won't change their views until they face the truth.

"Would he show up at military funerals to condemn homosexuals? Would he engage in screaming matches with feminists or nonbelievers? Just what would Jesus do?"

Most pro-life activists don't do these things, either. Unfortunately, the few who do are the ones who get the most attention from our "unbiased" media.

Adams' message to all of you
who ever had a child that eperimented with pot, or beer, or was difficult to raise, or was just not plain perfect most times, is that you didn't love him or her enough.

I'm curious to know if Adams has children, and how perfect they are - since he seems to understand how it all works.

A New Perspective on GAP
THank you for this column. There is a lot of truth here. I have always wondered about those pictures; I really like the idea of convincing young people to place these babies up for adoption. It may be a cliche, but there are really no unwanted babies. They just haven't been hooked up with those who want them.

Jesus said in JOhn 13:35, "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." Dr. Adams is right in saying that we need to love thse students, not vilify them, and let God take care of the consequences. He's God, and we're not.

Blessings.
Tanya

Mike goes liberal on you
MIke sounds positively liberal here. He even praises aliberal couple! The horror of it all! And all that business about Christian love--it certainly didn't impress a number of the TH readers, who, as real conservatives, were quick to condemn women who've had abortions. Now that's what you conservativs are good at--moralizing, atttacks, and condmnation. Mike went soft in this column, and I'm happy, as a liberal, to see that maybe he can think outside his own conservative box. I'm not going to get my hopes up, however. Everyone is entitled to one mistake, and this column is Mike's example.

Bad theology
gwco2skeptic writes:
"I challenge anyone out there to find a Scripture passage which indicates God's love is unconditional."

It's pretty simple. Jesus died for all, and he said that there is no greater love than when a man would lay down his life for a friend. Then there's the demand that we love our enemies. Would Christ as us to do something that no even He would do? There are lots of other ways in which God's love is indicated to be unconditional in the Bible.

I think your boggle seems to be conflating love and salvation. These concepts are mutually exclusive. God loves all, and in His mercy provided Christ as a means by which all can be redeemed. But because of his justice, He must condemn those that refuse Him. God loves everyone, but not everyone that says. "Lord, Lord" will enter into the Kingdom.

As for Dr. Adam's article, it rightly places the onus on us Christian pro-lifers to first show the love that is COMMANDED of us by Christ, and then to help our lost brothers and sisters find their way. The difference in approaches is very important. The harsh correction of a loving father is certainly distinguishable from the condemnation someone who shows no love for you whatsoever. You can bludgeon someone into right thinking any more then you can convert the lost by assaulting them with condemnation. Just a little further down that path is the idea of conversion by the sword.

It seems to me
That your students want to continue the life of earlier days. Someone to protect them from harsh images of; beheading(Daniel Pearl), people leaping from the WTC, victims of