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Friday, September 14, 2007
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Pino 911
by Mike Adams
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On September 11, 2007, I was sitting around minding my own business and quietly remembering the thousands who lost their lives six years earlier. It was a nice, peaceful morning until I received an email from someone claiming to be Professor Julio Pino of Kent State University. Pino is a Muslim extremist who advocates the mass murder of Jews while drawing a paycheck from the hard-working people of the great state of Ohio.

The most memorable portions of the disturbing email are reproduced below:

“O, Slaves of Zion and Amerika, Arise! The shaheed (martyr) who yearns to die, and has prayed for this moment all his life, has come to rescue you!”

“The martyr is performing an action that is the culmination of a whole life’s struggle, and in turn gives meaning to that life. Muslims venerate the Prophet Mohammed (Peace and Blessings of Allah Be Upon him) as al-kemal-al-insan (The Perfect Man).”

“The shaheed, May God Be Pleased with Him, is not only the perfect soldier, but the perfect Muslim. All of life is preparation, and striving for, martyrdom.”

“The intention for martyrdom is elevated to a higher status than the final act itself. A soldier walking, without shaking, into a field of fire courts death but does not desire it from birth.”

 “(T)he Muslim knows no continents, regions, nations or tribes but acknowledges the existence of only two groups of human beings; men of faith---his Brothers---and the kaaffir (unbelievers and apostates), those ungrateful and rebellious beings that, like Satan himself, opted for disobedience. With the latter no compromise is possible or permissible, by Islamic principles.”

“The Muslim is commanded in the Quran to ‘fight oppression and overcome tribulation, until all religion is for Allah.’ This is the true meaning of jihad; daily struggle, in every manner prescribed by Allah and His Messenger.”

 “Jihad is constant battle, in all places and at all times, with those forces, natural and supernatural, that would remove the Muslim from the sacred realm and into the profane. Dying on the battlefield or in any other way ordained by the kaaffir is a profane act unless death is dedicated to Allah.”

“The martyr has no time for peace; no time to be cynical, or pessimistic.”

“The Muslim world is poetic, and the greatest of all epics is martyrdom.“Laa ‘ilaahaillallahu (There is none worthy of worship but Allah) must be on his dying lips that he may enter Paradise. Not by chance did Mohammed Atta’s ‘Instructions for the Final Night’ counsel him [sic] make these his last words before crashing into the World Trade Center. Amen.”

As soon as I read those words, I replied to the sender asking whether this was, in fact, Julio Assad Pino of Kent State University. I assumed that if it was a fraud, the author would fraudulently claim it was real. But, alas, there was no answer.

I then wrote to Julio Assad Pino to give him an opportunity to tell me whether it was a fraud. Again, there was no answer.

I then called Julio Pino’s office the next day to give him a chance to explain himself. Still, there was no answer.

Finally, I called and wrote the Provost at Kent State University asking him to shed some light on the situation. There was no return email, nor a return phone call.

For six months now I have been trying to get the FBI and the State of Ohio to focus on a man who has been definitively linked to website (now defunct), which called for the mass murder of Jews and American soldiers and, which also provided specific bomb-making instructions for those willing to perform the murders in the name of Islam – the world’s most violent religion. Since Julio Pino confessed his connection to the site, no one else has been linked to it and I predict that no one ever will.

As a result of a) incompetence, b) apathy, or c) both (on behalf of the FBI and the State of Ohio) Julio Assad Pino is feeling confident again. And, apparently, he now feels brave enough to send me messages on 911 saying that the attacks on New York and Washington were justified according to his religion of mass murder and racism.

Clearly, a strong response is warranted.

I would like to request (respectfully) that my four favorite radio talk show hosts – Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Jim Quinn – take the time to read these excerpts on the air some time this afternoon.

We also need to pursue a formal investigation of Julio Pino and demand answers from his employers at Kent State. Towards that end, I urge you all to write to the traitor directly (jpino@kent.edu) before you write to his boss in the higher administration at Kent State (provost@kent.edu).

If you aren’t satisfied with what you hear just write to me (adams_mike@hotmail.com) at your earliest convenience. If I don’t answer immediately, I’m probably in the garage reloading. But I’ll get back to you faster than a Muslim extremist with tenure in Ohio.

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Willywonka
5by on the 72 virgins and may it be soon!!!!

Tangential, I know, but...
...after reading this thread, can I just say some stuff about Mrs. Paddy, Lolo2 and the other wives and moms and ladies here?

First of all, note to self...don't p*** them off. They will bring the righteous hammer of the gods down on your sorry carcass.

Seriously, we rightfully pay our respects in this forum to the gentlemen here who serve and have served. I am forever in their debt. They are my heroes. They have my respect, admiration and gratitude. But you moms, your courage and convictions, the steadfastness with which you bring up your children and infuse in them upright character and love of Country - you all are the rock on which this republic is built and give me hope for it's future. And I bet those aforementioned gentlemen would agree with me wholeheartedly.

My hat is off to you, God bless you.

Good night.


Vince is here..
.. in answer to libphobic's question, Mr. Vince is here to inform, entertain, caution and correct all who enter here.

To Gunny
GunnyG writes: Friday, September, 14, 2007 8:49 AM
ALL
I've just posted Part One and Part Two in a series investigating the murder of Ron Brown. This will fit in with Hsu's upcoming "accident" now that he's getting out on bail.

(If I was him, I'd STAY in jail! He'd be safer there.)
********************
Re: Your last sentence above: Not necessarily (see James McDougal).

V an
I notice you're here a lot lately. What's the matter? Nobody at Kos taking you seriously?

Mr Vince
Only someone completely out of touch with reality could opine that Islamic violence is overblown, and that modern Christians are the real danger. You must live within the pages of some bad comic book.

Pino's Rant
Kent State administrators may be smarter than we think. They may regard Pino as cheap insurance. Like Jews who collaborated with the Nazis in WWII, Kent State administrators probably hope that, if they shelter jihadist warriors, they can forestall the fate that awaits infidels. Is it not ironic that Kent State has no doubt spent hundreds of hours to protect themselves against a Virginia Tech repeat?

Mr. Vince
Mr. Vince, yes indeed, Moslems are so mannerly --they always wash their feet before and after they behead or car-bomb innocent people. You talk of stirring up things: then why do you frequent this site if it's so antithetical to your views? Why don't you and your fellow Mooooo-On cattle stay in your own pastures?

I PUBLICLY CALL FOR HIS DEATH.
He should be killed, today, so that he becomes the martyr he wishes to be. After reading his articles, self-defense is the perfect defense. He claims we all need to be killed. I claim he should be killed before he can hurt anyone. KILL HIM NOW, BEFORE HE KILLS YOU.
Ron Reale
realety@yahoo.com
954 701 6900
remember, he and all muslims calling for the death of non-believers should be killed immediatly out of self-defense. Stop this crap.

Mikee the Menace
uh Mikee ol' boy --

Maybe the reason you get no responses from folks at Kent State, is they know you're a nuisance upstart.

Same ol', same ol' tactics. Stirring up your right-wing buddies here with scary exaggerated reports of your many "enemies".

Urging them to join you in your own christian Jihad against your "enemies". In particular, feeding folks the emails and personal info of your "enemies". Then urging a whirlwind Spam-a-thon.

Kinda like tossing bloody meat in front of snapping crocs.

At least the Muslims got better manners than most christians I've seen here!

wally
I LOVE politically incorrect speech! To me, THAT is the voice of FREEDOM!!!

Wally.
Have to agree.

I DON'T HATE MUSLIMS, I HATE ISLAM
The most devilish, hateful religion on the face of the Earth today.

Mohammad was a truly evil person, may he reap the reward he worked so hard for!

Allah is not God, just Baal under a different name.

The Koran isn't scripture but the babblings of a deranged pervert.

I DON'T HATE MUSLIMS, I HATE ISLAM
Muslims are just some of the victims of Islam.

Islam is possibly the most devilish religion ever to curse mankind. It is based upon compulsion in all things. There is no such thing as free speach, freedom of choice, freedom of religion or any other freedom.

And yet, who do I see siding with the Islamists? Why, the "liberals" of course. Maybe that should tell us that so called "liberals" are not really in favor of freedom for others, only the license for them to do as THEY please.

They (liberals) are among the most two faced, hypocritical people on the face of the Earth. They bear no resemblence whatever to the genuine liberals like Jefferson and Franklin. They are just Nazis, Commies and Faschists who think that they are "liberals". It sounds better.

TCA SAYS
“abortion isn't killing a person. it is killing an embryo.”

Using that logic, eliminating a "liberal" isn't killing a person, its just eliminating a "potential" person.
and
Killing a Muslim isn't murder, its just helping him reach his eternal goal.

Motley Crue
I took his address form the column, so no worries.

Please take note.
I have reason to believe, after further investigation, that Julio C. Pino of Kent, Ohio is not Professor Julio Assad Pino of Kent State U.
My mistake. I apologize.

Motley Crue
Thankyou very much!!!!

Hey, Lolo2. Redhead.
Lolo2. Sounds like you've got a great daughter there. She's got her head screwed on right. Good parenting pays off every time. Good for you.

Redhead. Can't expect Rome to be built in a day.

Motley Crue
P.S. I am totally jealous of where you live!!!!!

Motley Crue
I emailed today and sent a letter as well since I am thoroughly sure they get my tax dollars. I see no point in calling him.

Another thing everyone should do is complain to all Congressmen and Senators about the way they treated Petreaus and Crocker.

tca, 5:01pm:
“abortion isn't killing a person. it is killing an embryo.”
You’ve assumed I consider you a person. Never assume. And leave me out of it.

“we differ on when a person becomes a person.”
At least you could take MotleyCrue’s post of the poem to heart and become a man.

Bman1
They tried to censor her film and get the teacher to flunk her however he stuck up for her rather fiercely along with one of the principals. That school also runs pretty scared because they know I have a civil rights attorney have taken them to court in the past. We have slammed them before if you get my meaning. Funny thing is about that film is she did alot of interviews for it and no one likes Diversity Week.

Pino & Kent
There's a joke around Ohio that Kent State was the best thing that ever happened to the other state universities in Ohio.

(Sorry if this is a double post---my first one didn't seem to go through.)

Pino & Kent
There's a joke around Ohio that Kent State was the best thing that ever happened to the enrollment of the other state universities in Ohio.

SFASU7392.
Hopefully there are some p!ssed-off Ohioans. Would it be too much to hope that Mr. Pino will have to look fearfully over his shoulder from now on. Not that I'd want anything to happen to the poor fellow, of course. Just a lesson in manners would suffice. The kind of lesson that says it's not nice to insult someone in whose house you live.

I think Mr. Pino
will be happy to know he is being posted on TH. He is looking for martyrdom, perhaps he'll get his wish.

I am John Doe911.

Julio C. Pino.
is the subject of this thread, therefore I will post Pino's info from time to time throughout the day, for any who need to copy it. Copying by Vigilantes is, ahem, outlawed.

(For educational purposes only)

JULIO C. PINO
1565 MORRIS RD
KENT, OH 44240
(330) 673-7179

May he languish in the arms of 72 insatiable virgins.

Mrs. Paddy.
You asked where I was. I'm in Marina del Rey, CA., a small coastal community outside of L.A.

To TCA. You can get gun-handling tips at any target range in your area. I have a Hangun Safety Certificate booklet I'll be happy to mail you if you post a PO box. I don't need to know your name, and you won't get mine. Anonymous always works best for me.

Charles Martel
Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, for reminding me of those books!!!!!!!

Time to dust off some of my library!!!!

I so forgot how much I loved The Source!!!!

Your a gem!

tca
Christheprofessor is correct. It totally depends on the game. Moral judgements also should be relegated to the back. The reason is if you were starving you would not care about whether you tracked that game or not.

Why the aversion to handguns? Curious, because sometimes when hunting you do indeed need a hand gun. If it is some sanctimonius thing about crime, forget it. I can shoot somebody just as dead with a shotgun or rifle as a handgun. Although I must admit I prefer shotguns and rifles over hand guns as well even though I own all of the above.

Timothy McVeigh? a Christian? feh.
This, from his bio in the Wikipedia...

"After his parents' divorce, McVeigh lived with his father, and his sisters moved to Florida with their mother. He and his father were devout Roman Catholics who often attended daily Mass. In a recorded interview with Time Magazine he professed his belief in 'a God', though he said he had 'sort of lost touch with' Catholicism and 'never really picked it [back] up.' The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter claiming to be an agnostic, though his execution included a Roman Catholic ceremony."

Christian terrorists? Sure, you all keep repeating that to yourselves as though it were true, but repetition will not make it so.

As for Michener, my favorite is "The Source" (JM does Israel, 1965); second would be "The Covenant" (JM does South Africa, 1980).

tca
I've been to Sylva (and Cullowee)... I'm in southeastern NC...

Lolo2
Wow! I'd love to see her film. I am a director (theatre) and that's right up my alley! Good for her! We need more truth warriors in the arts.

tca
Actually, I think I have proven my point. Short of unnatural human intervention (i.e., cloning), a human being cannot come into being (no pun intended) without the combining of sperm and egg. Ergo, life must begin at that point.

I'm in eastern NC, btw...

tca
Regarding a true hunter -- depends upons the game and the terrain. I think the quail tracker would starve...

Well I don't know about y'all, but...

I just sent a letter to the provost that basically said, my family and I will send our children (and money) elsewhere as long as PinHead is a professor at KSU.
Hit a Lib in the wallet and watch him squeal like Ned Beatty...

Lolo2
"I think I am going to write the Pope and nominate you for sainthood! Because you have the patience of a saint! I commend you Sir!"

Thank you kindly. I'm not always so patient, though, trust me!

tca
No worries on being late -- I just got back from a very satisfying motorcycle ride, after a day of rain here...

regarding your comment -- humans aren't plants, and to compare them is a bit of a stretch. There is no philosophical argument (read: nobody cares about when life begins) with regard to acorns. Stated differently, plant and human life are separate and distinct concepts. Human life is precious, plant life, not so much.

To rephrase what I posted above, an egg by itself cannot grow; neither can a sperm. They only grow (presumably split - my field is not any of the life sciences) when they are joined. Ergo, life begins at the point of conception. Any ending of that is the termination of a human life. There can be no logical refutation of that fact.

And the termination of that is, no matter how euphemistically one terms it, the willful ending of one human being's existence, in the case of abortion, with the complete denial of all due process of law regarding that human being's right to life.

mrs paddy
I have a girl that has found out that those who scream the loudest about diversity and tolerance are the least diverse or tolerant. As she says they are only tolerant of filth. Yes I am very proud of her, but then again we did raise her to be a warrior! LOL!

You should have seen the documentary she made about diversity week! Boy did they ever holler about that! She actually had a group of teachers trying to get it censored. Funny thing is she won the award for the entire region for it. It pays to persevere.

Lolo2
You're welcome. We've got your "six."

Annoy a Liberal to school! WOW you DO indeed have a brave girl. You must be proud, as well you should be.

Thank you
tca writes: "flamer i'll start off with ad hominem attacks if i want to (note how i added a very gay "r" to your handle). now i get to congratulate you on writing the worst and most unresponsive response."

I am honored by your congratulations. If I have written the worst and most unresponsive response, according to a liberal/socialist, then translating the honors into fact and truth from libspeak, then I have passed into PhD status, with highest honors. I would have used the proper latin but TH prohibits the middle word. :)

Oh and BTW, yes I am Christian and I will add you to my prayer list.

TCA
Did you get my posts to you the other night about where to look for help with hunting?

I gotta give you credit for not cutting and running, and maybe sheer stubborness as well.

christheprofessor
I think I am going to write the Pope and nominate you for sainthood! Because you have the patience of a saint! I commend you Sir!

SFASU7392 and Flame
ROFLMAO!!!! Your posts are priceless!

gee and mrs paddy
Thankyou very much for your support! It meant alot to me!

On a side note mrs paddy I and my daughter already have that t-shirt. Ironically she was tossed out of class for wearing it. So much for freedom of speech or expression. However she could probably go naked to school and that would be just fine! LOL!

As a matter of fact a few practically have.

MikeR
This is my last post to you on this subject. You don't offer insults? Funny you think that since I found you highly insulting!
You assumed my daughter's sole purpose for her wearing patriotic attire is to annoy. It isn't, but if she gets a double benefit, so be it. She didn't pick that fight, but she didn't run from it either. Remember what God says about hiding your light under a bushel?
In reality you didn't receive the same treatment she has because you are not physically in front of me. In actuality if you were, you would receive much worse. As I said earlier, only a fool gets between a mother and her child. Come out of the land of moral reletivism. When you have walked a mile in any of my children's shoes, or mine, and then when we ask, and only then, may you give advice and admonishment. In other words, if I want parenting advice from you I will ask for it. Rest assured, it won't be anytime soon.

Poor TCA
tca writes: "flame congratulations for providing the weakest argument i have ever heard. if you destroy someone's crop you are in trouble because that is how they make a living, not because corn is sacred and we angered the corn god. go watch tv or something you fool."

No my friend, you are in trouble because the legal system has determined that you are destroying the property of an individual. This is directly in line with the abortion argument about woman's body (property), woman's choice. Since the growing child is only half her property then she does not have the right to destroy said property.

Interesting that you read a religious spin to what I had written. Perhaps this disagreement about abortion is more about your morals than about the legal "right" of abortion as defined currently in our legal system.

I would note that liberals always resort to ad hominem attack when they have trouble debating facts in a discussion. Perhaps sticking to the facts and truth would be a better mode of discourse. Remember that when you lie to yourself, you are lying to a fool.

misunderestimated
Thanks for your post of 5:38pm That's the best laugh I have had all day. :-) Good advice too!

MikeR
Just curious but do you support the ad placed by MoveOn.org about Gen. Petraeus?

MoveOn.org talk about an oxymoron, to bad they don't take their own advice and MoveOn!!!

The subject of this thread.
I will post Pino's info from time to time throughout the day, for any who need to copy it. Copying by Vigilantes is, ahem, outlawed.

(For educational purposes only)

JULIO C. PINO
1565 MORRIS RD
KENT, OH 44240
(330) 673-7179

May he rest in the arms of 72 virgins.

Killing
tca writes: "abortion isn't killing a person. it is killing an embryo. we differ on when a person becomes a person. my belief is that it is at the moment of birth. an acorn is not yet an oak tree but a sapling is."

And yet it is illegal to drive all over a farmers field that has been planted because you are killing the crop. It too is not yet a crop, yet because there is growth occurring then legally it is considered a crop. So too with abortion, technically it is in the growth stage that will result in a child therefore it is legalized killing of a person.

Look, call it whatever you want but understand that many nations have legalized the killing of unwanted people for centuries: China and unwanted girls, Nazi Germany and unwanted Jews/gays, etc. No matter how you phrase it with PC speak, it is intentional killing of an unwanted human.

tca, keep testing...
...if you test enough times, you may pass!

Start by re-reading the Kipling poem. The book of Proverbs might also be helpful.

TC.
The principles Kipling wrote about in his poem "IF," (1897 or thereabouts) hold as true today as they did 110 years ago. These are the Europeans that forged empires, built great cities, stayed married, honored women, invented just about everything that makes our lives more comfortable than anywhere else in the world.

There's a code of honor in those words, that most of us fall short of, but still strive to live up to. All of those things he describes are what makes a conservative and a real man.

He didn't write about gay marriage, because that is a choice, not a principle. Abortion is also a choice, not that it was unheard of in Kipling's day. But Kipling was describing what it takes to be the best a man can be, and in better words than most of us can ever hope to put together.

You can learn from it, TC, or you can ignore it. The choice is yours, but if you choose to try and adhere to the principles outlined, you'll be a better man for it.

John Doe911.

tca
Yes, I am. I posted a response to one of your comments, but it didn't appear (it has now). One time when I refreshed looking for it (I double-posted above not realizing there was a delay), a comment that had been there previously was not there! Strange...

tca
"abortion isn't killing a person. it is killing an embryo. we differ on when a person becomes a person. my belief is that it is at the moment of birth. an acorn is not yet an oak tree but a sapling is."

An egg by itself does nothing. A sperm by itself does nothing. Put the two together, and they start to grow.

To argue that life begins at some other point is to deny science and is pure sophistry.

TCA writes in Kipling's poem
there wasn't a word about gay marriage or preemptive war. no abortion references, not even a mention of terry schiavo.


Now you are getting what it means to be a conservative, TC.

MikeR Reposting here from 3:50

I agree with your sentiments that the flag and cross are important symbols. I would also say that they are symbols of strength and those who embrace what they stand for are displaying their strength when they wear them. Those symbols don't have to be 'protected' from controversy, and they can withstand the scorn of those who do not share your reverence for them.

If they stand for anything, they stand for courage and truth. That anyone can disparage those who wear them proudy, only reinforces how powerful they really are, and how important it is to not back down from those who would hide behind political correctness.

MikeR
I disagree with you completely. The American flag is not sacred, at least in the sense that you describe. Sacred objects stay locked up in mausoleums or museums, never to be touched or used.

The flag, while sacred in the context of what it means (the sacrifices it represents), is ours (mine, yours, every Americans). I can see one right now billowing in the wind outside my office building. You seem to be implying that, like many on the left, you feel that patriotic symbols (or religious symbols) are so sacred YET controversial that they are best left unmentioned and for private use.

The fact that you are more fired up that a girl uses the flag to say something about herself (as opposed to dressing like a bratz doll to say somehting about herself)than you are about the fact there are people to whom the flag is an annoyance.

TCA
SFAS has already corrected your stripper reference.

As for the “anti-crimson” remark, that was meant as humor. If you went to the link that didn't post correctly, you'd see that. Clearly you don’t get that, either. I know, though: "it’s not worth fighting for."

I’m done.
Stick a fork in you, you’re aborted.

GunnyG
Just heard Hsu is out on $5 mil bail. Seems he jumped the previous $2 million, which of course was forfeited. Pretty clever. He forfeits bail, we capture him, we up bail , he forfeits ... I figure a few more moves like this and we can seriously impact the Chinese trade deficit.
And wouldn't it be a hoot if Hsu turns up dead in a week or two? I'd cetainly love to have a hundred $ on it at demographic odds.

TCA writes: In Kiplings poem
there wasn't a word about gay marriage or preemptive war. no abortion references, not even a mention of terry schiavo.

Read my 4:15PM post, TC.

Lolo2
As I said, you’re the one who said she was being a provocateur. That’s not freedom of expression. I’ve never done anything to anyone that comes even remotely close to what’s been done to your daughter. I’m actually sorry that it has happened but I find it ironic that you feel justified doing something similar to me. Here’s the real difference between us. I can’t truly judge you or your daughter so I can only comment of what your write. You are in the same situation as me yet you seem perfectly willing to pass all manner of broad judgments. Perhaps you should yak.


I would suggest MikeR,
and all of us on this thread, that we read Kipling's words and take them to heart. If all men lived by that poem, we would all be, not just conservatives, but decent, honorable men. Enough said.


Lolo2
Go to Patriot Post and buy an Annoy a Liberal shirt! :-)

Mark R
Point taken, I suppose. You got to pick your battles, though. I, personally, find it abhorrant that there are peole in the world who make it a rule to target civilians (women and children included). These are what any decent human being should consider vermin. As such, they shouldn't be granted the same status as human beings.

Ever since 9-11 I've listened to people in the United States say the worst things about their own people while giving the benefit of the doubt to people who have openly declared their hostile intentions towards all things American. It defies all logic. It is tragicacally self-destructive.

The bravery of such people can be personified in what occured during the Danish anti-Allah cartoons aftermath. It's considered brave to paint a christian icon with feces but at the same time it's intolerant to criticize a muslim icon. Not because people are not inclined to do so but because muslims by the thousands riot and threaten to behead the practicioners of the art. Now, if that's not a double-standard, I don't know what is. The bravest thing Americans could've done at that time was to publish and condone those pictures if only to show the rest of the world what it is to be free. Too many worry about what the rest of the world thinks. How about considering what our enemies think. What they should be thinking is that Americans are crazy and not to be messed with. What they're getting is that Americans worry about what other people think. Not about defending themselves.

MikeR writes
gee and doc
No, I’m not saddened and Lolo didn’t get my goat (I can’t recall that happening here). But that’s not the point. If you like patriotic images, that’s fine. If you don’t like patriotic images, that’s fine too. Heck, if you like annoying folks, that’s fine also if you’re so inclined. The point is that the flag, like the cross, is dear to me. They mean so very much as symbols. As such, I don’t think they should be used as petty props just to annoy someone. If someone wants to engage in such juvenile sport, can’t they just call names or bring up something from their past? Why sully what’s sacred just to “get” someone. I contend that the flag is not sacred to someone who would do such things.

Funny, I thought school would be the perfect place to wear it just because so many liberals in one place, and add to that they want to take the pledge of allegiance out of the class room!

Bman1
Your forgiven! I beat one to death with a shovel.



I'm going to sign off for a little while because I am really ticked! I saw a really cute patriotc blouse in a catalog. I'm gonna go and order it for my daughter.

Bman1
Fair enough. I’m not a conservative by many standards; unfortunately, the liberals can’t stand me so I have not home in the blogosphere. I’ve said before that TH is the best and that you get censored on the liberal sites, so I post here. All I ever ask is say where and why I’m wrong. I don’t call names and I don’t offer insults. I always consider what is written when I comment. I’m one of the people just as much as any of you and none of you love this country more than me.


MikeR
People like you make me want to yak, you smug, pompous, arrogant piece of garbage that wallows in moral reletivism.

Sacred? How about her rights to freedom of expression? Oh those aren't sacred because she disagrees with you. You think it is just fine that she gets attacked but see nothing wrong with her being attacked. Can you get any dumber???? She doesn't even have to wear anything patriotic. All she has to do is disagree. she has been jumped in the parking lot, screamed at in the face with a space of one ince, spit on, and threatened, not to mentioned discriminated against by students and teachers. You should of seen what happened when she refused to join the Gay/Straight Alliance. She has the courage of her convictions. she has more courage in her pinky than you will ever have. The more idiots like you attack her the more she will fight back. You continually prove her right. that public school is all politics all the time. So be it. Only someone as ignorant as you would be surprised at a teenager fighting back the best way she knows how.

unnnn
this dog does hunt, and every once in a while i add pigs feet to my ham and beans! wild boar if i ever make it down to TX for my hunt!

true captain america
On several posts you've shown an ability to laugh at yourself. Self-deprecating humor is a sign that you don't take yourself too seriously, which I'm afraid can't be said for some liberal posters like Van, Leo, and Robert!

Lolo2
A truly classy response. I especially like the name calling. It shows the breadth of your powers of reasoning. I’m not coming between you and your child nor am I telling you how to raise her. I will point out that you wrote “just to purposely annoy”. I am laboring under the assumption that you know what it is that you are writing. As for myself, I admit that I’ve never been “smart” enough to offer insults, threats of violence and name calling as argument, but I do know what it is that I’m writing.


TCA.
If Rudyard Kipling's poem is all I can pass on to you, then I feel I've given you the greatest gift possible. If you can at least try to live up to it, then I'd call you friend. It's up to you.

Bman1
Do not ever confuse me with lilly again or you will be next to get it. I don't feed them. They steal trash, dog and cat food, fruit growing etc. They also get big because they have a longer life span here because God forbid anyone is allowed to hunt!

dang
need to watch getting excited

Everybody knows
that real men don't eat kwish!!!

MotleyCrue
Thanks for posting my favorite poem by Kipling!

Always a good read!

OK
Doc. Bman1.
It is hereby written and attested to that from this day henceforward I shall sign off my posts with
John Doe911. Agreed?

dog gone it, wish i had thouth of it first!
hey i know Doc=John Doe Remember 9-11
yup thats for me!

John Doe Remember 9-11

Question for Pino
Does the Quoran state that Jesus was born of Mary and that Mary was a virgin?

Since this is written in the Quoran then whose blood did Jesus carry?

Let's see if he really knows his Quoran!

True Captain. Here goes.
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master;
If you can think -- and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings -- nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run --
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And -- which is more -- you'll be a Man, my son!

Bman1
That joke was just plain wrong. What kind of a man would find that funny? How are you supposed to maintain your credibility with that? This is what gets my goat. Don’t tell me how bad the liberals are when you are willing to engage in such low behavior. I won’t flag it. I never flag comments. I say let the folks see what you are really made of.


PRCS.
Well said, sir. Well said.

MikeR
I agree with your sentiments that the flag and cross are important symbols. I would also say that they are symbols of strength and those who embrace what they stand for are displaying their strength when they wear them. Those symbols don't have to be 'protected' from controversy, and they can withstand the scorn of those who do not share your reverence for them.

If they stand for anything, they stand for courage and truth. That anyone can disparage those who wear them proudy, only reinforces how powerful they really are, and how important it is to not back down from those who would hide behind political correctness.

Smitty

I have never been an anti Semite although I have met a few. Further, I will not advocate any antisemitism. But some of our home grown Semites are very challenging to say the least. In defense of Smitty, I having read his post, did not find it "especially", flagrantly, anti Semite.

I believe we can have a little more tolerance than flagging his post. He expressed his ideas in a somber and candid manner without being totally anti anything. Obviously he is less than enamored of the Jewish people, but I didn't feel any strong and condemnable rabidness from the post. Rather he seems to be questioning their general stance on the ME, and the super liberal agenda they most often express and support here at home.

If I am wrong, so be it. But I doubt the guy is a Nazi storm trooper anything. I, as many of you, have admired Israel's ability and willingness to defend itself. Let's cool it.


True C*ap A**
“does the rug match the curtains?”
Is that an anti-crimson comment? Are you ruby-phobic? That sounds like the equivalent of “nappy headed hoe” to me. CASH is going to be all over you!
(http://redhead.townhall.com/g/ff083ba1-4c01-4156-9bba-c7cd00b7c497)

“are you in iraq now? because according to your ideology you should be.”
I’ll bite. I’ll even fight!

Are you an abortion? because according to your ideology you should be.
Are you jobless and on welfare? because according to your ideology you should be.
Are you living in a cave to fight AGW? because according to your ideology you should be.
Are you mentally ill? because according to your ideology you should be. Ok, you don’t have to answer that one. We’ve already determined you are sadly disturbed.

As I learned from Al Gore, there are many more ways to support your cause then doing everything (or anything) you advocate. By supporting the troops, and the mission, I am fighting. By saying “thank you!” to those who have gone over there this time, I am fighting. By denouncing surrender, I am fighting.

By the way, not only was I in the Navy during the first Gulf War, but I currently work on a military base. I am supporting, by my very job, every day, the fight that our military takes to our enemies.

I eagerly await your return from under the rug for your reply.

Stop calling them extremists

Department chair: Kent State prof did contribute to jihadist website
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015643.php

The ongoing situation with Professor Pino aside, let's end the charade.

Catholics who do not use artificial birth control methods are not generally labeled 'extremists'.

Nor are Orthodox Jews.

Yet, people who should know better constantly refer to people like Pino as Muslim 'extremists'. Or Islamofascists. Or Islamonazis. Or radicals. Etc. You know the routine; anything but what they really are:

Fundamentalists. Literalists.

So, why all the misleading labels?

Pino isn't making up what he says. Anyone with access to the Internet (anyone reading this) can check the veracity of his statements and assertions.

One of his points:

"The Muslim is commanded in the Quran to ‘fight oppression and overcome tribulation, until all religion is for Allah."
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/fight_until.html

Muslim fundamentalists (please spare me the tired attempts at moral relevance between Christianity and Islam) interpret the Qur'an (and other relevant texts)literally without acknowledging their historical context.

And their worldwide jihad against non-Muslims is abetted by everyday Muslims who also know--but pretend not to--what Islam is (a theocracy) and what it teaches (supremacy).

The 'War on Terror' IS a bumper sticker slogan; devised by politicians (and plenty of journalists) who are either ignorant about Islam or are loathe to offend the jihadist's co-religionists.

We're not at war with 'terror'. We're at war with those who declared war on us; Muslim fundamentalists.

Doc. Bman1.
It is hereby written and attested to that from this day henceforward I shall sign off my posts with
John Doe911. Agreed?

gee & doc
No, I’m not saddened and Lolo didn’t get my goat (I can’t recall that happening here). But that’s not the point. If you like patriotic images, that’s fine. If you don’t like patriotic images, that’s fine too. Heck, if you like annoying folks, that’s fine also if you’re so inclined. The point is that the flag, like the cross, is dear to me. They mean so very much as symbols. As such, I don’t think they should be used as petty props just to annoy someone. If someone wants to engage in such juvenile sport, can’t they just call names or bring up something from their past? Why sully what’s sacred just to “get” someone. I contend that the flag is not sacred to someone who would do such things.

I'm waiting for TCA to give me
the go ahead. I intend to post what it takes, not only to be a true conservative, but to be a true man, a man that others can look up to, can rely on, and a man that takes responsibility for his limited presence on earth. I would hope that not only TCA, but all liberals would take heed. I think this will be an eyeopener and a creed they could learn from and live by.

If TCA does not respond soon, I will post it anyway.

IntelGrunt
Please name the CDC researcher whom you say is advocating mass murder.

Why are you seeking to be vaccinated against smallpox? The last US case was in 1949; the last case in the world was in 1978. It is a nasty vaccine with many possible side effects. It is currently offered only to first responders who might come in contact with it if there were a release by terrorists.

Speaking about the "flu mailings", I presume you are referring to the proficiency specimens sent by Meridian Labs to accredited diagnostic laboratories. Meridian has apologized and will not send that strain again.


Hey! I only allege Islam is our enemy

There is a trial going on Muslim financing of terror, specfically the Holyland Foundation.
The Washington Times

http://washingtontimes.com/article/20070914/NATION04/109140086/1008

today reports on some the indicting information being presented like the following paragraph


"The Muslim Brotherhood memo on organizing Muslims in North America said that all members "must understand their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within, and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."


MotleyCrue
we decided to share the name instead so many having to fight over it! pick a number like i did and your all set!

Love in Bloom
Is that love blooming between TCA and Van?

Speaking of books....
You all are reminding me to re-read my favorite book "Lonesome Dove"

Bman1
sorry, i didn't ask her name, i just told her that they were serving fruit loops on the other side of the street and off she went!

Doc. Bman1...TCA.
I don't understand it. I drop off to take care of a couple of things and when I return there are all sorts of John Does running around. To heck with that. I'M John Doe. So there.

TCA. I see you are back. Perhaps you are ready for the only lesson in conservatism you will ever need. Caution, it could be contagious, and once I lay it out for you there'll be no turning back. I suspect, TC, under all that bluster, you'd like to be considered one of the guys. I'd like to give you that opportunity. So....when you're ready....

SFASU7392
Did you like Caravans? I think my least favorite is Space although I still liked it.

gee
Yeah that is a great one as well! I can't honestly think of one I didn't like!

SFASU7392 and Bman1
No aramdillos' here...THANK GOD!!! Have possums' the size of dogs though. As a matter of fact my Jack Russell Terrier killed a huge one on the side of the house. He is aptly named Yankee! LOL!

Bman1
sorry i didn't ask her name, i just told her they were serving fruit loops on the other side of the street and off she went :)

Lolo
I always had a fondness for Michener's "Hawaii"

Bman1
When we lived in TX we called the arma-dead-oes
only ever saw ONE live one...lots of roadkill though.

formerly known as gee
First off can I just go back to posting 'gee'? Second off, you beat me to the punch with your post!!! LOL!

MikeR
Seems she got your goat hehehe, I live to P O libs every day, but i would never invite their children into the middle of it, So I think an apology is in order. One other thing, Libs like Ted, the swimmer, Kennedy and Harry, I give up without a fight, Reid or John, never met a liberal I couldn’t love, McCain seem go out of their way to annoy people like me, so what’s the difference?

SFASU7392
YUK!!! I will take possum's and gophers any day over armadillos!!!


Glad to see someone still loves Michener, but then again from a history professor I wouldn't expect any less.

I just dusted off Legacy to read again because there aren't too many new novels worth reading, so I just drag out my favorites. What is your favorite Michener novel? Mine is Centennial, but I love them all.

MikeR
Aren't you more saddened that Lolo's daughter encounters people that are annoyed by patriotic images on her clothing?

Van - misplaced compassion
Van, and most libs, your compassion and goodwill are misplaced. I'm sure you are, for the most part, good people with well-meant intentions. But folks, you have hostility for the wrong people and values.

Van, you NOT ONCE that I saw spoke against the voilence and evil proclaimed by the subject of this article! Don't you know that the pinos of this world would readily have you KILLED for your lifestyle? Don't you want that defended?

I would be the mother of all mother bears (read: violent to the nth degree) if ANY body attacked or threatened my husband, children, family or pets. And THAT is a true conservative value!! Place your mercy and empathy in the correct place! I hope that got thru to you.

Lolo
"We all know you are an ignoramus, but how dumb can one be to get between a Mother and their child? Consider yourself lucky you aren't standing in front of me. But then again, cowards like you would never have the guts to say that in front of me."

Our kids are always worth fighting for!

Lolo2
HoooRah!!!! Go get 'em Momma Bear!

Boy, can I relate!!! :-)

Fighting
I would also like to take a moment to thank God for those like Mrs. Paddy, her family, and her husband who fight for the rest of us to this day. Mrs. Paddy, you are special for the sacrifices you put up for the rest of us. The numerous others make it no less special.

To those who say I am a chickenhawk for not going myself, I served in the US Navy submarine service. I value my time served very highly. I would like to think I contributed to our armed forces, even if I was only a cog in the wheel.

Even Dr. Adams contributes to the fight by keeping us up to date on this Julio fellow. He keeps the fight alive with his columns every week.

I truly cannot, and do not wish to, image what life would be like without knowing something worth fighting for.

Ding Dong, the gopher's dead!

MikeR
Do not ever presume to lecture me on my child. I will gladly clean your clock for you idiot libtard. She doesn't only wear it to show contempt, but considering the contempt she is constantly shown by your side it is no wonder.

We all know you are an ignoramus, but how dumb can one be to get between a Mother and their child? Consider yourself lucky you aren't standing in front of me. But then again, cowards like you would never have the guts to say that in front of me.

mrs. paddy
Please excuse my typos.

mrs paddy
Maybe there was once upon a time in America that you and your family weren't so special but in today's climate that is not the case, but god Bless you for your humility.


In my book you and your family along with anyone willing to sacrifice and serve is very special. Where in the heck would we be without people like you?

Oh Slummer
"Gabriel's book is a fourth rate pulp mash."

Specifics, critical anallysis, got any? What specific titles should MrsPaddy and the rest of us be reading?

you know
Shells asked some really good questions. Unfortunately the only answer he or she came up with is the old “liberals did it”. But now that they have been asked, I am curious. Anyone want to try to answer then seriously?

Lolo2: It’s a shame that your daughter wore her lapel flag pin complete with flashing lights to school just to purposely annoy liberals and that she also wears a lot of patriotic clothes to purposely annoy liberals. That actually shows contempt for what they represent. It’s also spiteful and immature. I would be ashamed if either of my children used patriotic symbols to annoy others instead of love for their country. But as you seem to say it with pride, I guess annoying others ranks high on your priorities.

Mrs. Patty: My mistake.

Bman1
Yes, have heard from hubby. He's fine, and I thank you for asking about him. You, Lolo2 and several others have been so kind to remember and I appreciate it.

I don't think we are special, there are an awful lot of military families out there, so I feel kind of guilty being singled out.

All the same, I appreciate your support, as I know that you support all of our troops and their families. Much Thanks!

Bman1
Our gopher almost won and we don't have any grass! LOL! It was getting to be like Caddyshack around here!!!

Bman1 writes:
For anyone out there in TH Land that knows anyone going to DC for the GOE then I would like to say God Bless them. And I hope they have a safe trip to and from.

ahhh GOE, I made it to the last one, sorry to say I cannot make it to this one. I had a great time, hope they do this time. Do watch out for the lady in black, about 80- 5 ft something tall, she will talk your ear off explaining how bush bought the towers down, now that i think of it, her ears didn't work so well either :()

Real MEN!!!!!
Two Canes, GunnyG, Nam, Hellernot, SFASU7392, Big Arch, onceamarine.... I'm sure there are more. You guys ROCK! you still give me hope for the all-American red blooded male. I think most if not all of you served, THANK YOU!

Keep it up Doc
While the quantity of responses (to your column) isn't as high as usual, the percentage of responses by communists/nazis (aka liberals/democrats) is one of the highests yet.

RedHead
TCA is a perfect example of those that believe in nothing will fall for anything.

PLEASE WRITE KENT STATE
As a graduate of Kent State I have written and voiced my protest and I urge everyone here at TH to do the same. I am also asking that all financial contributions to Kent State be withheld until his resignation is sought.

SFASU7392
Is it just me or does it seem that Ron Paul is continually sucking lemons? There is something so negative and sour puss about him. Sad part is he isn't wrong about everything, only some things. I have about zero use for isolationists, and little tolerance.

PLEASE WRITE KENT STATE
As a graduate of Kent State I have written and voiced my protest and I urge everyone here at TH to do the same. I am also asking that all financial contributions to Kent State be withheld until his resignation is sought.

Addendum to my comment to Touj
Sorry, I meant a link to any reputable source (that hasn't been debunked) that says Christians did any of those things.

What a sad, sad person.
TCA writes:
“..i was born in 1976. there have not been any causes worth fighting for in my lifetime.”

When I previously saw your inane posts, I thought you may have been misguided, or just stupid. Now I know how truly disturbed you are.

You must lead the most depressing life of anyone on earth not to have ever known a person, a place, or an idea worth fighting for. I was born in 1972, and there have been many, many causes worth fighting for in my lifetime.

I would fight for my mother, my father, my wife, my kids, my brothers, my friends, my town, my county, my state, my Country.
I would fight for my favorite chair, my car, my house, my telephone, my computer, my cat. A gopher in the yard has to fight me for my grass.
I would fight for liberty, for freedom, for the right to pursue happiness, for the idea of the individual, for my God.

I would even fight for you, and your right to post drivel on this board, as well as your right to misrepresent yourself as honoring America.

People like you, who don’t believe in anything, make me weep. I truly feel sorry for you. Thank God that there are people like CVN, Gunny, SFAS, Two Canes, Nam, Big Arch, and countless others who went before me and you and fought for us.

Touj
"why is it that you conservative Christians always find a way to excuse other Christians who blow off the heads of physicians, bomb Planned parenthood Clinics, kneecap political rivals?"


Link please.

gwco2Skeptic
You make some very valid points.

SMITTY
Sig Heil, Hitler wanna-be, and to think a swine like you lives right around the corner from me.

mrs. paddy
Three years in Saudi Arabia. A little bit(less than a year)in Kuwait, so I don't really include it.

MotleyCrue writes:
I am John Doe.
Sorry there must be some mistake here because i am JOHN DOE!

John Konop
You lack of a sense of humor. Ron Paul has some good ideas; i think he is naive about the war. But you write of him as he is the 2nd coming; for a 2nd coming, you need converts. And it does not look too good.

An Unforseen Benefit of the Iraq War
One of the spin-off benefits of the Iraq War is that the vast majority of liberals are now certain that Osama bin Laden was responsible for it, and they want him captured or killed. Why? Because they constantly use this fact to denounce the invasion of Iraq.

"Why did we invade Iraq, they didn't do 9/11, Osama did", shout the liberals. Had Bush not invaded Iraq, the lefties would be questioning Osama's involvement, and calling him a scapegoat.

I realize that a few nuts out there (Rosie O'Donnell, I'm looking your direction) still think there was some kind of conspiracy, but they are the minority.

Lolo2
Hey! Gotta love the Left Coast! We are fine, thanks for asking. Just keeping busy (as my lurking on TH attests LOL)

What ME country did you live in, if you don't mind my asking. We spent 2 years in Turkey.

Wiseone
You are quite welcome, and thank you for the kind words.

mrs. paddy
I am on the left coast as well. BTW how are you and your hubby and the rest of your family holding up??? I hope all is well!!!!!

"Christian" terrorism
From time to time you hear liberals refer to "Christian" terrorism. They cite things like the Oklahoma City bombing, the bombing of abortion clinics, and Northern Ireland.

Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian, he HATED Christians; the war in Northern Ireland was about British rule, not religion; and the bombing of abortion clinics, while abominable, is much like John Brown's "Christian" terrorism against slave traders (they were motivated by putting an end to cruel and barbaric practices).

Please not that I do not support or endorse the use of violence against abortionists, or blowing up their clinic. I am just saying that being motivated by the desire to put a stop to one of the most evil acts imaginable (killing a child in its mother's womb) is not as bad as being motivated by politics, racism, and religious intolerance.

Motley Crue
Good morning to you as well my friend. I wore my lapel flag pin complete with flashing lights on 9/11 anniversary.

My daughter wore hers to school just to purposely annoy liberals! she also wears alot of patriotic clothes to purposely annoy liberals! Ah...kids...gotta love them!

MotleyCrue
Wow....Morning? You must be on the left coast like I am!

MotleyCrue
Good Morning to you! You just made my day.

Good morning, Lolo2, Mrs Paddy,
and all other conservatives. I see your names on a thread and am comforted knowing you are out there representing the best interests of this great country of ours. I wear the flag in my lapel without apology.

I am John Doe.

Bman1
I suspect he already is headless due to the content of his posts. Or is that brainless?

Bman1
that universal healthcare is not new. Remember Newsom's "Care not Cash" program? That healthcare will also not apply to me, because as always I make too much money.

What kills me is they have the utter gall to complain that there are no families left in the city. Soon there will be no business' left either.

Why.??......
...........
Is anyone talking with, at or past trash like VAN. I don't care if he's an innocent or just brain washed or brain dead, why would decent folk waste their time and the time of the rest of us talking to him or any of his buddiiieees, aka captain america, et. al.. Jeeez<


I will post Pino's info
from time to time all through the day, for any who need to copy it. Copying by Vigilantes not allowed. (For educational purposes only)

JULIO C. PINO
1565 MORRIS RD
KENT, OH 44240
(330) 673-7179

Touj
I have friends who are Muslim also. What I meant by my descriptor is to identify that those Muslims who take the Koran literally (i.e. loyal practicing Muslims) have to embrace the teachings of jihad, and all who are not Muslim are infidels.

It is also perfectly acceptable for a Muslim to lie to an infidel because the Koran tells them that they only need to treat fellow Muslims with honesty. In effect, anything is okay in the name of jihad and for furthering their belief that we need a world-wide caliphate.

If Islam were only a religion it would not be a problem. Unfortunately, it is joined at the hip as a political ideology as well. You can look at ME countries and see how non-Muslims are treated. Dhimmitude is the best that can be achieved.

Of course, here in the US, they are the minority. They are content to bide their time, but they are making inroads. What do your Muslim friends think about CAIR and Dearborn, Michigan?

Touj
P.S. After reading your non-sensical dribble every single day I would never trust you. On that you can trust me.


Your the one assuming that I assume that all Muslims are bad.

Touj
I happen to know quite a few as well So? I also lived in the ME. So?

Why don't you just admit that the book doesn't fit your political template so you denounce it. That, at least, would be more honest.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Van writes:
This is a hate site. But then it's a conservative website so that goes without saying. And people like Nam claim moral superiority to muslim extremists. Nam, there's no difference between your mindset and that of Mohammed Atta.

whats wrong with this statement? He says it a conservative web site so it goes with out saying?
That in and of its self is a hateful statement to me because I am a moderate conservative, and i don't hate all Muslims, just the ones with guns or hijacked planes in their hands, or hate speech coming from their mouths!
So how am I hateful? Are these the same people who would take away my right to own guns so i can't defend myself? I reckon they would do a better job of protecting my family? NOT, Oh jeeze i guess I’m a conspiracy nut job now!




For christheprofessor
I just wanted to thank you on behalf of all of the adults and conservatives who read these threads for putting the false logic and contrived arguments of Van and tca to waste.

All too often liberal loons like this will come onto a TH thread, pick one comment by the author or a con poster, apply the most extreme interpretation to it, broadbrush all conservatives (and, today, Christians) with it, and use it to hijack the thread.

This thread is about a muslim extremist who has attained a professorship at KSU. It is not about allegations of right-wing hate. Only a self-as-center-of-the-universe lib like Van would come to TH looking for something he can interpret as "hate" and then 'complain' when he finds it.

Bman1
"I did not know he was born in 1976. must have missed it since I read his posts so carefully.

Oh well, that explains a lot doesn't it.

Check out Ann Coulter's thread when you get time dated yesterday. Read some of that bull#%^*.
For comic relief of course."

Yes, it does. Will check out Coulter's column. I've noticed that some (here and at other sites) go ballistic and lose all sense of proportion at what she writes...

SFASU7392
Gee, when I read that the captain thought "that hunting terrorists down would best be done by an elite group of trained indivuals," I thought he meant the FBI. You thought he meant a military force? When he's obviously a Clintonista-type?

smitty
I have flagged your last post. If you want to engage in anti-Semitism try another website; this is not the place for that type of racist attack. I agree that it is extremely puzzling that many American Jews support the left which then supports the PLO but that post went too far.

MikeR
I was being sarcastic. Sorry you misunderstood.

Ban Islam
Its time to ban Islamic literature, close the mosques, close down all other Islamic related activities ie Muslim Student Associations on our college campises, CAIR, Islamic schools etc , ban anyone belonging to this murderous cult and give free passage to any wanting adherent to this violent organization that now reigns terror all of the world let alone the U.S.

If you disagree with this then you have some reading to do as you will eventually conclude Islam is a murderous cult Masquerading as a religion.

Mike pointed out not only a specific problem but a universal problem.

slummer
In your post to mrs. paddy you should have said "In your opinion" in regards to Gabriel.

Furthermore since I really doubt you are from the ME I will take her experience over yours any day. There are also way too many books that corroborate her.

You are the definition of those that are too blind to see. According to you then no one is credible. RIDICULOUS!!!!

slummer
I said Loyal Practicing Muslims. Those are the ones who take the Koran literally and have declared war on us.

If you don't think that the goal of a world caliphate is what they want, then you aren't paying attention to what they say.

I'm always amazed at the folks on this thread that mis-place their hatred to Bush and Osama bin Laden, as if putting them into an arena like the O.K. Corral for a shoot-out would solve the whole problem.

Sure, there are lots of Muslims that don't take their religion seriously...just as lots of Christians do not. Your point?

Gabriel gives a first-person account of her experiences in Lebanon. You may call it pulp if you wish. Have you read it? What other sources of information do you get your blanket statements from?

I think the average Muslim is much like the average American...they just want to have a nice life with their families...so your statement about vast differences within the Muslim community is correct.

Unfortunately, there is a large enough contingent of Muslims who do align themselves with jihad and radical extremism to warrant our vigilance and skepticism that they are a "religion of peace." That is not what Mohammad practiced, or taught.

Good morning, Bman1, SFASU7392.
Do you think I set the bar a tad high, in asking TCA to refrain from invectives, inanity and outright lies?

Pino 911
Maybe this Pino cat has a point, after all it's the Jews that advocate every thing you lament usually at taxpayer expense-including Muslim immigration.

Terrorist Muslim resident citizen voters are a product of Jewish immigration policy as well as political correctness, porn, abortions, the homosexual agenda, income redistribution, diversity programs and gun control are all products of our liberal Jewish community-none of which they practice in Israel.

The liberal Jewish media establishment as much as stabbed Gen Petreas in the back in public on the cover of the NY Times.(so I hear)

newsflash: liberal homesexual pro-illegal immmigration anti war activist Jews we invaded Iraq partially to protect Israel and deliver oil for your immigration policies.

What's worse, the rattlesnake in your home or the guy that brings the rattlesnake into your home?


slummer
Boy, we can't go one whole Dr. Adams thread without bringing in the "gayhate". Get a (gay) life. Spare us your highbrow rhetoric. Of course there are passages (in the Old Testament) that speak of sacrifice, etc. Christians follow the Word of Christ- what he sad and did. He did not advocate forced submission and conversion or spreading his views by sword, rape and destruction. Neither do Christian ministers or priests advocate this- they advocate tolerance, peace and understanding. Nor does the Pope speak of burning Catholicism's enemies. Muslim clerics call for all of this, not 800 years ago, today. They are not quoting a historical interpretation of the koran, little used and not meant to be taken literally. No, they intend for this to happen, now and tomorrow. They mean to kill us or convert us not dialogue with us. So, what say you? Where are the priests advocating slaughter of Muslims and Jews? I am waiting.

Questions:
1. Why did Pino contact Adams in the first place?

2. Why has Pino contacted him again?

3. Why has the authorities and the college done nothing?

4. Can't Pino's acts be construed as harrassment?

5. How did this animal get an education and become a professor ion our school system?

6. Oh forgot...It's run by liberals.

SFASU7392
As to your post to Motley Crue, I ditto that.

Especially since he cannot resist posting on every single thread every day about how no one, except himself, can have an opinion on the war unless they are enlisted.

Do you know what makes people like tca dangerous?

They are stupid and foolish and don't know it. There is a Persian Proverb about this.

Bman1
As to the no return policy they won't guarantee it. They will return him. Headless.

We Need a Conservative Website
as an answer to MoveOn.org. And on this website should be posted the names, addresses and other pertinent info, on all enemies of America. Here is my contribution to start things off.

JULIO C. PINO
1565 MORRIS RD
KENT, OH 44240
(330) 673-7179

May Allah bless you on your martyrdom, Mr. Pino.

thoughtful_analyist
I speak only for myself in this, but it’s not the feelings of Moslem extremists that I worry about. My concern is always for America. I do not condone of torture, murder or vigilantism no matter who is the perpetrator or who is the victim. I know the extremists are our enemies do such things. That’s why they’re the bad guys. It is our absolute right to defend ourselves, but not by emulating our enemy’s evil ways. In short, I do not believe that two wrongs make a right.

Mrs Patty: I do not think that TH is a hate site, but hateful things are said here on a regular basis and not by liberals alone. You can find in this thread the elements you claim to have never seen.

Where does all the $$ go?
In answer to the question regarding why ME countries are 'poor' when sitting on huge oil profits....A lot of that revenue goes to further their "cause" Madrassah schools (like here in the US) that indoctrinate the next generation of Islamic fighters, and for their jihad...weapons, influence...

Big reason it would be in our interest to develop our own oil reserves and build more refineries so that we can stop subsidizing our own demise.

Good morning, TCA.
I realize yesterday, on the Ann Coulter thread, you an I got off on the wrong foot. I propose we start again. You want to know anything about conservatism, just ask. I'll be quite willing to discuss it with you, as long as you refrain from invective, inanity and outright lies. Deal?

Van writes:
This is a hate site. But then it's a conservative website so that goes without saying. And people like Nam claim moral superiority to muslim extremists. Nam, there's no difference between your mindset and that of Mohammed Atta.

Van. Hate to point this out to someone as, ahem, astute as you, but there is a difference--Nam's on our side. Mohammed Atta helped kill three thousand Americans.

Got it now?

Hate Cite
I'm amazed at the comments that TH is a hate cite. I never hear anybody bash anybody else, or say nasty things or anything like that!

Which leads me to this point.

Loyal Practicing Muslims believe what Dr. Adams quoted. Those of you who think anger at those Muslims who have declared war on us is hate may be right.

I do hate the ideology that would murder innocent people in order to promote their "god" who is apparently so weak he cannot speak for himself. I do hate a society that is so intolerant and arrogant that they treat non-Muslims as animals (pigs) and treat their own women as property and kill their children by encouraging shaheed (that's martyrdom via suicide bomb etc) or death by the hands of their own mothers when they have been dis-honored (raped).

Educate yourselves. Read books like Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabriel. Listen to what organizations like CAIR say. It isn't tolerance that we need. It is awareness of our declared enemies. Don't mis-place your hatred upon those of us who recognize the threat and want to do something about it...many of us already are.

As far as the stupid comments about moral equivalence between Islam, Judaism and Christianity, there isn't enough space to address how out to lunch those ideas are.

Bman1
Well, he stated he was born in 1976 -- I don't think they taught debate, logic, reason or respect for facts to most members of that generation. Indoctrination rather than education, and the way tca responds (or rather, fails to respond) is just one more data point suggesting that the leftists controlling the NEA have no desire to instill critical thinking skills in future generations. That much easier to lead the ignorant masses to their subjugation and/or destruction...

Sad, really. If we don't reclaim our educational system soon, we will be in real trouble.

Two Canes
"DITTO"

Pino
One would think that, with their past history together, Pino would immediately reply to Adams in some way and distance himself from this email if indeed he didn't write it (or at the very least, his office/school would do so). All involved remember the noise that Adams generated concerning Pino--could it be that Pino screwed up enough to copy Adams on an email, simply because Adams email address is in Pino's Outlook file?


Goodness Gracious Me
Have the mean old conservatives said something that might upset the muslim extremists? If you guys (TCA, Van, et al.) put as much effort into hating the truly hateful instead of your neighbors this war would be over in no time. Don't kid yourself. Muslim extemists have you in their gunsights. It matters little to them how much you posture and pretend to be open minded and tolerant of others. Point your finger at Christians as much as you like. The chances of being murdered by one are far less likely than being murdered by muslim extremists and the latter live right next door to you.

CVN65
No worries on the name mangling -- happens all the time... Thanks for the kind words, and thanks even more for your service!

SFASU7392
"Chris: True Crappy Anal_Orifice has his head (among other things) so far up his anal orifice, that he cannot see or hear, or read anything."

Well, I have yet to see tca successfully rebut (no pun intended) any point I or another of the other posters have directed his way, let alone an links supporting his position (again, no pun intended).

(I hope this isn't a repeat, my first attempt at these thoughts didn't seem to post).

Nam65-66
Holy crap! You were 30 when you went away? You must have been one tough dude. The only folks I knew that age were senior officers and career NCOs.

SFASU7392
"Chris: True Crappy Anal_Orifice has his head (among other things) so far up his anal orifice, that he cannot see or hear, or read anything."

I have yet to see a single point I or any other poster made to him that tca has successfully rebutted (no pun intended) at all, let alone with links supporting his position (again, not pun intended).

Pino
If this professor had made a comment about "nappy headed hos" he would be long gome from his job.

professor chris
So sorry to have started the mangling of your screen name. TCA stayed right to form, didn't he? Name calling, lying, misleading facts- same old TCA. Way to stay on him and continue to volley back with facts. Facts are to libs what garlic is to vampires. Have a great day, I have to get back to work.

Various & Sundry
First time commentor- long time reader of TH & blogs.

Mike has it right....Islam is a very violent religion. To ignore it is at our peril.

From reading all the blogs that interest me, I have not changed my mind regarding my conservative values or stances. On the contrary, I feel even stronger knowing there are still Americans out there that are willing to defend this country against the foreign & domestic threats we now face....especially the liberal propaganda that is spewed on a daily basis.

Gunny, Nam, & etc. - Great job of expoding liberal myths and wrong-headed notions! Long time fan! My dad was in the Army Air Force during WWII, my husband was in Nam, and my bro-in-law was in Iraq. I am pro-gun also...deadeye if I might add...lol

Technopeach

true captain america
"... born in 1976. there have not been any causes worth fighting for in my lifetime."

Drat, huh? I suspect you will not see a cause worth fighting for in the remainder of your life, either. Not if you don't see 9/11, followed by a promise of more to come, until all infidels are converted or dead, as a cause worth fighting for.

BTW, I've noticed that Osama seems to be mad at us for whatever the Democrat party/moveon.org is mad at us for at any given time.

Where is Allah?
I would agree that Mr. Pino needs to be removed from Kent State, but first I would want him to actually answer some questions about Allah without the rhetoric he spouted on his website and this email if it is his.

1. If Allah is all powerful why are the most oil rich countries in the world, which are predominately Muslim, so poor, and why do they have such trouble keeping things going unless some dictator is in charge?

2. Why has Allah let the Muslim world get so far behind in technology? The Muslims know how to use the cell phone and computer to wage war, why don't they learn to make them? They could easily compete with China for low cost of labor.

3. If Allah wants purity in Muslims, why do they spend so much time harvesting Opium and making Heroin? Isn't it a sin to use drugs? Drink Alcohol? Hang out in strip joints?

4. The God Jesus Christ surely has blessed America in the last 400 years by his people who have come to the aid of Europe and Arabia several times.

There is a large gap in what Allah has done for his people vs what Jesus has done for His people. (And no I do not believe all of the US is Christian, but only a few, a remnant, but they benefit all of us.

Extremist?
Department chair: Kent State prof did contribute to jihadist website
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015643.php

The ongoing situation with Professor Pino aside, let's end the charade.

Catholics who do not use artificial birth control methods are not generally labeled 'extremists'.

Nor are Orthodox Jews.

Yet, people who should know better constantly refer to people like Pino as Muslim 'extremists'. Or Islamofascists. Or Islamonazis. Or radicals. Etc. You know the routine; anything but what they really are:

Fundamentalists. Literalists.

So, why all the misleading labels?

Pino isn't making up what he says. Anyone with access to the Internet (anyone reading this) can check the veracity of his statements and assertions.

One of his points:

"The Muslim is commanded in the Quran to ‘fight oppression and overcome tribulation, until all religion is for Allah."
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/fight_until.html

Muslim fundamentalists (please spare me the tired attempts at moral relevance between Christianity and Islam) interpret the Qur'an (and other relevant texts)literally without acknowledging their historical context.

And their worldwide jihad against non-Muslims is abetted by everyday Muslims who also know--but pretend not to--what Islam is (a theocracy) and what it teaches (supremacy).

The 'War on Terror' IS a bumper sticker slogan; devised by politicians (and plenty of journalists) who are either ignorant about Islam or are loathe to offend the jihadist's co-religionists.

We're not at war with 'terror'. We're at war with those who declared war on us; Muslim fundamentalists.

tca
Just one more:

"According to Jonathan Dahoah Halevi, director of Orient research Group in Toronto, who follows Islamist organizations, they view Denmark as an easy target for the spreading of Islam, a springboard from which to renew the Muslim occupation of Europe. As Sheikh Issam Amayra warned in a recent sermon: "Three percent of the Muslims in Denmark constitute a threat to the future of the kingdom of Denmark. …our Danish brothers will manage to bring Islam to all the homes of the Danish citizens. Allah will grant them the victory in their country in order to raise the Caliphate in Denmark. Afterwards the citizens of the Caliphate (which will be raised in Denmark) will wage war on Oslo, [and] they will fight their neighboring Scandinavian countries in order to join their lands to the territory of the Caliphate. Then they will wage a holy war and spread the teachings of Islam to the rest of Europe, until they reach the original city of Medina.”"

From:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID={9446CA77-BD91-4D8B-8AA6-00FCC2F0F8CA}

If they are successful in their global aspirations, you will be in a great position regarding the "5 times a day" prayers, as you already have your head in the sand... That is, if you are allowed to keep your head.


Nah, them ain't fightin' words!
TCA: " there have not been any causes worth fighting for in my lifetime."

You seem to be attempting to put up a fight on this board, why is that?

You must be one of them chicken-chickens.

TCA...
...My vision is fine,thank you very much.You did say "people like us fought in WWII",and you weren't even born until 1976!And,TCA,there will never be any causes YOU will fight for in your lifetime.

Lolo2
"You are rapidly going to find out that tca has no brain cells."

I'm beginning to suspect that you may be correct...

Deport Pino
It's obvious that Pino isn't an American (a U.S. Citizen maybe), but screw that, deport the [other word for a donkey] (and other ilk like him) to the paradise of Persia, Pakiland or Arabistan if he wants to live in the 7th through the 12th centuries!

tca
"you are crazy"

Ah, there it is. The ad hominem -- a sure sign that the debate is lost... Thanks for playing, though...

Why is it that lefties (I'm making an assumption here, of course) cannot believe our enemies when they plainly say what they intend? They want to make sharia the law of the land. So much for the Constitution...

We have OBL on tape taking credit for 9/11, and yet there are a bunch of idiots out there who say we did it to ourselves...

btw, it's Chris, not Christ.


TCA...
...You fought in WWII? I remember that war very well.I was six years old when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor and ten years old when they surrendered.I'm 72 years old now.Just how the hell old are you?

Pino Gloats, Silver Bullets and Gutless
Why did Islamo-Fascist 'Dr. Pino' send this
email to Conservative Dr. Adams?

1. Pino confuses our tolerance for free speech as being gutless and cowardly.

2. Evidence over the past ten years is that
the FBI has been thoroughly compromised by the
US Congress and Saudi Arabia since the FBI's
Ab-Scam investigation. (Read: 'Terrorist Hunter' by 'Rita Katz') There will be no investigation---or, at best, it will be a
Politically Correct joke.

3. I've heard home grown monsters publicly advocating mass murdering large swathes of the US populace for over 20 years. What's so scary is that I've heard some well-educated, Government paid CDC-Atlanta researchers and bureaucrats advocating 'Silver Bullets' using
tainted vaccines to do this or 'accidently'
releasing weaponized small pox or weaponized 'Spanish Flu.'

Don't believe me?

Contact your doctor or local Government health
center and request getting a smallpox vaccination. Unless you're a health care
professional, political big-wig or member of the
military, you can't get vaccinated. You must
go to Europe or Mexico.

Check out early literature of the very scary
'Negative Population Growth' (NPG) in which it
advocates reducing the world population to a
'sustainable' 500,000,000 people via 'Silver
Bullet' diseases.

Read:

Tom Clancy's 'Rainbow Six'

Ian Flemings 'Moonraker'

and check out the very looney, but very serious,
'Voluntary Human Extinction Project.'

FBI response when vials of the very deadly 'Spanish Flu' are shipped regular US Mail
---and some lost?

FBI Response: Ho, Hum.

Does the FBI vette mass murdering wannabes
at the CDC via interview, associations and
lie detector?

FBI Response: Ho, Hum.

Usually, it's the accusers who're investigated.


tca
"you are an idiot if you think the goal of al quaeda is to install a muslim theocracy here. they hate us because we are over there."

I see you are very selective in your naming names ("the goal of al q...).

But make no mistake about it -- the goal is a world-wide caliphate and sharia for all.

In the CAIR charman's own words (quote embedded):

"Omar Ahmad, CAIR's chairman, announced in July 1998 that 'Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.'"

From:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2811

They don't hate us because we are over there -- they hate us because we are any where (i.e., exist at all).


Pino
Nam's comment has some validity. All Muslims study from the same Koran, and it plainly calls for the death of ALL infidels. This is a command to ALL Muslims, and by remaining silent, they endorse this very thing.

My personal opinion is that about a dozen simultaneous LARGE mushroom clouds in certain parts of the world would go a long way to settling the problem for a long time. Of course it won't happen, even if one first appears over New York City, we'd have to send a protest to the United Nations, and a delegation to discuss our differences with whomever we think might have done it.

The Old Coot

More "Islam is Poetic"
from the Poems From Guantanamo II collection:

A cabbie drives in Tribecca
With dreams of a visit to Mecca
Into his cab climbs an infidel
With a bottle of Zinfindel
Should he drive her or just cut her neck-huh?
- Salim Ahmed Hamdan

Makes a wonderful Christmas gift for the infidel in your life!

http://kilroyreport.townhall.com/g/a163e376-2250-4b41-b52f-0f0196b689da

tca
You never fought in Nam and people LIKE you protested and ran to Canada. Who do you think you are fooling?

christheprofessor
You are rapidly going to find out that tca has no brain cells.

GunnyG
I see tca and Van are back to posting their same old dribble day after day.

I vote we hand them over to the jihadi's so they can use them for practice.

tca
"the kkk, tim mcveigh, eric rudolph. none of these christian terrorists..."

There you go again. Have we not already established that McVeigh was not a Christian? Or are you impervious to the facts?

"the two aren't comparable because mcveigh killed christiams and so did osama. some people, not as many as would now, danced in the streets because it wasn't a muslim on muslim crime."

So they were dancing because they killed somebody other than muslims this time? I stunned that you just wrote that...

Van,et al...
...I have been cursed with a memory.I remember reading in my history books how the muslims came storming out of the middle east to conquer,murder,enslave my ancesters.I also remember my favorite general from WWII,Douglas MacArthur saying "The only good Jap,is a dead Jap".That was from the "Good War",remember?My other favorite General from the Civil War,William T.Sherman,saying "Kill 'em,just kill 'em all",about the Confederate enemy.We won that one,too.Remember?

That is how you win a war.You kill people and break things.People with your attitude never won a war for us in your life,and you never will.But relax,there are men out there who don't think like you,who will protect your life style and your freedom of speech.It has always been thus.

That is why I say the only good muslim is a dead muslim.

CVN65
Yes, they generally flee when faced with logic and facts...

I fully expect, if s/he returns, the subject change to Eric Robert Rudolph.

btw, there's only one "t" in my nic (common mistake)... I'm good, but I'm not THAT good... ;)

christtheprofessor
Don't expect a true answer from tca. Now he will either flee the thread, lie, obfuscate or try to change the subject. Leftists can never be proven wrong, especially by us knuckle-dragging conservatives.

Let Pino spew
This is a great column, a muslim explaining why, and stating the Koran commands martrydom is what people need to hear. I have a hard time convincing people that muslims say this stuff. Ron Paul needs to read it. Nowhere did Pino say he is pissed at America because we've been mean. He is pissed at America because we are infidels. Ron Paul is an infidel to Pino. No matter how nice Ron Paul is to muslims, he's still an infidel and deserving of death according to the Koran. Unless I'm just un-informed and Ron Paul is a muslim.

gwco2skeptic
After repeated attempts to contact Kent State and/or the professor, with no response from either, it almost seems safe for Mike Adams to assume it IS really Pino's words.

If not, then a nice civil case might finally bring an answer.

Of course, truth IS a defense in a libel/slander case.

Oops!
My last post was directed at tca (true capain america) not cta -- my bad...

That should be "McVeigh" also...

moose
Anything intelligent to add to the fray or will you stick to a "swoop and poop"? Care to comment on the article or on the positions on this thread?

My favorite line
My favorite line of all time is " the constitution is not a suicide pact." Thinking along those lines it amazes me what would have happened to a man in Texas in the 1950's who stole 45000 other Texans retirements (Enron) and made them worthless. I just dont believe he would have made it to trial. Likewise, it it strange to me that people will preach violent overthrow of the government and the planned death of all in the country from the college campus and be able to walk free. I feel quite sure that if I were to go to downtown Dearboure get on my soapbox and plan for the deaths of all muslums I might have a problem getting out of town. I dont think they would be concerned with my first amendment rights.

cta
One more link debunking the "McVeith as Christian Terrorist" meme you so inaccurately toss out in your attempt at morally equating Christians and muslims, from right here at TownHall:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MaggieGallagher/2002/10/28/timothy_mcveigh,_christian_terrorist

Finally, look at the reactions of Christions and muslims in response to Oklahoma City and 9/11. To quote my friend Kenneth:

"McVeigh murdered and Christians were horrified, outraged & saddened. Christians arrested him, tried him & convicted him.

Osama murdered, and Muslims were so happy they danced in the streets. Muslims protect him and fight against those who would seek justice."

tca
Spare us the moral relativity. McVeigh was not a "christian extremist". He was a man that had been raised a Christian then committed an atrocity against a government that had gotten out of control in his mind. He was incensed about Ruby Ridge and Waco, not trying to institute a Christian theocracy. So, then, idiot, try again to sell us on "Christian and Jewish extremism". Not all Muslims are terrorists BUT the VAST majority of terrorists are Muslims.

The religion of peace...
War among themselves. Sunni v Shia. Do they call each other infidel?

Oh please, van!
Can you say "Dhimmi?"

Perhaps you can offer an explanation for Muslim behavior that makes some kind of rational sense, behavior characterized by the all to frequent scene of a burning and bloody market place where some Muslim has just blown him or herself up.
Do your neighborhood Muslims condemn such acts?

Remember the news footage of all of the Muslims dancing in the streets over the events of 9/11? Where was the hue and cry from the 'religion of peace and tolerance'?

The local Islamic Society in my community is strangely silent over these events. I wonder why?


cta
"In an article by United Kingdom’s “The Guardian” about McVeigh’s execution, we find this reference:

“In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife. "If I'm going to hell," he wrote, "I'm gonna have a lot of company." His body is to be cremated and his ashes scattered in a secret location.”

From:

http://www.tektonics.org/guest/mcveigh.htm

Notice that
the liberal posts refuse to address the vile rants of an Islamic extremist. Instead, they attack the conservative posts. These moral relativists are so pathetic that I refuse to mention their names. I would like to mention that homosexual dhimmi status is not an option; that is a capital crime so you will be the first to experience blowback but not in the way you desired it.

Who Is Guilty
If you live in Cuba and do not think Castro is evil, then you must think like he does and you must share his guilt. If you live in Cuba and know Castro is evil but you do nothing, you are aiding his evil through omission of resolve. The line of differentiation is too fuzzy to exempt either group from punitive retribution. Assuming that day ever comes( This Castro comment is just a close to home example of approval by lack of corrective action). Same is true of radical Muslims and their aiders. No way to tell the difference so both must be brought to control by whatever action deemed necessary to achieve that end.

gunny g
Speaking of bobbleheads, I'm guessing you have a Mike Adams poster on your bedroom ceiling.

Van: Really?
"Van writes: Friday, September, 14, 2007 9:17 AM
MikeR
Well, I do take the conservative infatuation with all thing violent and all forms of vigilantism seriously. As should everyone."

As opposed to the Left-wing vigilantism displayed by rabid female-chauvinists, the MSM, NOW, NAACP, left-wing pundits, academics, et al during the "Duke Rape" farce?

Pino was right about something
“The Muslim world is poetic"

As is evidenced by "Poems From Guantanamo II"

Order your copy today exclusively at:

http://kilroyreport.townhall.com/g/a163e376-2250-4b41-b52f-0f0196b689da

Ok, here's a taste:

I wonder if I’ll ever see
The guy from that cell next to me
I tapped my toes and he tapped back
Just as a Marine Corp hack
Took him off to another cage
The price we pay for this war we wage
- Abu Abu Majid

Van and tca
Let us suppose in the near future we have multiple attacks on our cities by Islam extremists,after which we find out that other muslims in your neighborhood knew of these attacks.Hopefully you would prtect them from citizens that want them taken out.

true captain america
"in 1995 tim mcveigh deliverd a truck bomb to the federal building