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Monday, July 23, 2007
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
Life and How to Live it, Part IX
by Mike Adams
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My most recent column generated more than its fair share of hate mail. Perhaps the most notable was from a self-described conservative who said he was sick and tired of hearing my views on religion which were, in his view, characterized by an annoying form of “Hallmark Card optimism.” I’ve decided to meet him halfway in today’s column. I won’t talk about why I’m a Christian. But I will talk about why I’m an optimist and about the personal setback that helped make me one.

It’s no secret that I wasn’t the best student ever to attend Clear Lake High School in Southeast Houston, Texas. I failed English all four years. I failed to reach the 2.0 GPA mark. And, needless to say, I finished in the bottom 1% of my graduating class. There was a distinct reason why I performed so poorly; namely, that I attempted to get a “D” in every class and to fail English every year so I did not have to get a summer job (sorry Mom and Dad if you’re reading this). The fact that I got above a 1.0 GPA was due to a bunch of accidental grades of “C” from some overly generous teachers.

My total lack of effort in high school was largely due to my success on the soccer field. At the age of fifteen, I won a state soccer championship together with some magnificently talented players – most notably Joey Gunderson, Sam Hinson, and Peter Royster. After Mike Olmedo and Steve Zobel joined our team we would soon be headed for another state championship game. This time we were heavy favorites with several players who had won a state title previously as underdogs. I was certain that I was one of several players on the team who were headed for the pros. In fact, I thought I was a lock.

But then something strange started happening at the end of my junior year. In April, I was averaging about 60 miles a week on the jogging trail as I was gearing up for a crack at the Houston marathon. As I was training I began to hear and feel a small clicking noise around my left ankle. Over the next few months it began to actually hurt so I went to see a doctor. The news wasn’t good. A bone spur was starting to slice my Achilles tendon which, according to the doctor, would surely rupture without corrective surgery.

So I did what you would expect me to do. I told the doctor to kiss my (backside) and kept on running through the injury. Needless to say, I eventually had to stop running completely. I was so hopelessly out of shape at the beginning of the next season that I could not even make the team.

So I did have the surgery in November. And it was unsuccessful. In fact, I would be unable to run even a single mile for over three years. Needless to say, my dream (the only one I ever had) of becoming a professional soccer player was over. I started smoking, drinking, and occasionally using drugs in preparation for a two-year sentence to junior college. There wasn’t a university in America pathetic enough to take me. Not even Ole Miss.

But, nonetheless, I had to take the fall from being a star athlete at a great high school to an absolute nobody at a junior college in the pathetic little town of Pasadena, TX. It was either that or work as a mechanic. Having rebuilt the engine on my 1970 GTO (together with my father) I could have gotten employment as a grease monkey somewhere in the Clear Lake area. But that was even worse than junior college in Pasadena. Needless to say, I was one miserable and angry eighteen year-old.

Miserable as I was, I buckled down and worked my way up from eleven to thirteen to fifteen and, finally, to sixteen hours respectively in my four semesters at the junior college. Suddenly, after two years of misery, I was in a position to get into a four-year university. I applied and was accepted to Mississippi State University. It wasn’t prestigious but at least it wasn’t Ole Miss. And my dad was so happy I had started to turn things around that he rewarded me with an invitation to join a fraternity at his expense.

After I was initiated into the Sigma Chi fraternity I did something very rare among Southeastern Conference Greeks. I managed to actually raise my GPA in my first full semester living in the fraternity house. In fact, it was now nearly double my high school GPA. Through a little perseverance the GPA continued to climb despite my dwelling place in Room 13 of the Sigma Chi House. I was easily accepted to graduate school and started working on my M.S. degree right after finishing my B.A.

At the end of my M.S. program I turned down an offer to pursue a doctorate in Psychology at the University of Georgia. Instead, I finished my four-year doctoral program in just three years at Mississippi State. It wasn’t the most prestigious place to get a PhD but at least it wasn’t Ole Miss.

I spent the week of graduation – my last week at Mississippi State - driving my friend Jerry’s old Jeep Wrangler. He was borrowing my truck to move his things back to Vicksburg. Every night that week I would go out driving my friends Dana, Stephanie, and Becky around town while they drank beer and I enjoyed the company of three very pretty former members of the Phi Mu sorority – one of whom was also finishing grad school that week.

When Jerry got back in town I offered to buy that old Jeep Wrangler from him. He laughed and said he would never sell the vehicle to a good friend. Jerry said it was so prone to break down that you would almost have to be a professional mechanic to keep it on the road.

At just that moment I was struck with a profound realization: Had I not been unexpectedly injured, I would have been a former professional soccer player by then. And I would have been a professional mechanic without a single college degree by then, too. Instead, I was a 28 year old PhD who had just landed a good job in North Carolina.

I promised the aforementioned hate mailer that I would not talk about religion in this column. So I’ll not even mention the obvious role of Divine Intervention in my academic turnaround. Instead, I’ll just try to inspire a little optimism with the following bit of advice: There is no tragedy or setback so great that it cannot be turned into a blessing with the help of a little persistence and hard work.

For those who are uninspired or otherwise unconvinced, there is a second part to this story. I plan to write it just as soon as I finish re-reading the Book of Job.

To Be Continued…

Mike S. Adams was recently named Director of the Men’s Resource (MR) Center at UNC-Wilmington. His office will soon be decorated with an autographed poster of Ashley Herzog wearing a Carolina Blue bikini. Applications for the MR Center’s new “Study a Broad” program will be available on-line some time in August.

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Testimonies
They are powerful for several reasons: 1. Readers must decide to read on or just write-off the testifier. Either way, it's OK. 2. Like C.S. Lewis has noted regarding the claims of Christ that he was God in the flesh, one has to either consider the truthfulness of the claim as a possibility or write-off the testifier. Either way, it's OK. 3. Personal stories allow empathetic relationships to begin, or, some will just write-off the possibility of an empathetic response. Either way, it's OK.
So, the posts on this one will be interesting to read. Either some will enjoy the read or write-it-off with some ad hominem response. Either way, it's OK.

The Power of Inertia.
Sometimes, when I look back at my own life, I was amazed how easily negativity can overtake my own life. A year after I changed my life for the better, my own view of the world itself and my friends and family that I associate with has changed considerably. The way they simply accept things when they don't get everything they want has become disgusting to me. For example, recently my cousin was instructed to mow the grass in the front yard and back yard, and trim the edges with a weed-eater. As my uncle and I were watching the rest of the British Open, my cousin comes back in the house saying he's done. My uncle just grunted approval, but when I went out to get some beers I looked and saw that the grass was poorly mowed and if he edged anything it was hardly noticable. I took my cousin aside quietly and told him to do it again. He took offense, my uncle overheard and said it was okay. But I asserted to my cousin that he has to take pride in the work he does or it'll show in everything he does.

Then I laid into my uncle for accepting substandard performance.

It's stuff like this that I think is very permeating in our culture today. It's almost as though we hardly expect excellence anymore. Some people do, and those people go on to live successful, happy lives. When you set your sights too low, that's what you'll hit.


Wayfinder
I am pretty liberal and usually take very opposing viewpoints to any column that Adams writes, but I have to say that I totally agree with your post. It is a fairly big issue with me especially because my husband of many years (who has other, wonderful qualities) tends to be what you describe - frequently a task that involves some effort towards a degree of competent and well-executed (not perfect) goal is passed off as "good enough". I think I know what the family background is that produced this attitude but it troubles me alot.

However, aside from my personal stuff I also feel that the personal pride and sense of doing things as well as one is capable of has diminished for many as a both a personal goal as well as a goal that social groups used to hold in great esteem.

Practicing Buddhists seem to understand this much better that we in the west do; part of their way of life is to do everything with such attention and mindfulness that there is a respect and pride for the ct itself. If you are just making a salad, say, you relax and focus on the immediate esperience of cutting each vegetable and herb in the right, small consistent pieces, which will produce a whole that is beautfiul and consistent. If you mow the lawn, like your cousin, you don't think about the future, when it is finished and you can go off to your golf game, you think about the present; divorce time, and just make the act of mowing a well-mowed lawn a rewarding thing-in-itself.

Accomplishinbg these things often has to make a decision to slow down time, in other words, to spend the time it takes and not embark on a frenzied rush to just finish...we've all done that. I think part of it has to do with assigning you task the same importance and relevance as any other; you can pay the same attention to the job of weeding your garden as you would to say, having everything "prefect" as if you were preparing for a New Years Party for 300 people. Not in the sense of experiencing the kind of anxiety the NY'S party would generate, but in the sense that your goal would be to say at the end, "I took my time, paid attention, and did the best

GOT DROPPED OFF
job I could.

profblog
I totally agree with you also. One of the reasons i am so fascinated with memoirs, confessions, and some biographies has to do with just what you are describing - the choice to either accept it with trust, (even if guarded) or flat-out rejection, generally based on a lack of trust for the testifier. It has occurred to me that this is one of the signifying aspects of relationships among most women -- they seem more likely to open up to each other with their personal experiences, failures, triumphs, and I think, tend to trust each other for veracity more thean they trust men although this probalby isn't fair...it takes so much courage for men to open up that that in itself should be respected.

I personally think you are saying that since Gallagher has chosen to talk (honestly, hopefully) about himself in a way that anyone can, as a human being, empathize, and relate to him as a human being who has sruggled through the same point in history and the same gneeral culture that the rest of us do , find a level of identification and similarity that is blocked off by the columns that trash gays, liberals (as though they were an army of cloned robots) and others that speak less to our ideological/personal/cultural identity weaknesses and more to our similarities as humanb beings.We can all pontificate and preach about our abstract ideologies, but when we share the things that truly affect us: (The first time we realized that someone from the opposite sex was attracted to us, the first book we read that changed our world view, the first risk that resulted in the first really big accomplishment, or, the first humiliation that we can never quite excise from our heads, we can talk to each other as human beings and not abstracted political stand-ins.

ps
Please don't be put off by all the typos and errors - I can't sleep and am writing in the dark.

My God, doesn't this guy quit...?
Mike, Mike, Mike... What's wrong with mechanics? Can you concede that there are some folks driven to the profession of auto/truck mechanic? Or, is that your idea of where someone 'ends-up' when they're out of options?

Mike, I'm happy that you were able to chase your brass ring. But pal, something desperate has happened to you in the last 60 days and it's reflected in your writing style. Do you realize that you've insulted every manual laborer who chances to read your column?

I think I'm going to skip the next few, Mike, and hopefully by then your head will be screwed back on straight. Good luck, and I sincerely hope everything's okay at your end.

Dr Adams
Would have never known how close we once lived to you without this story.

We lived in Friendswood, working at Hobby Airport.

The Jalapeno Tree Grill?

The San Jacinto Seafood resturaunt. Any of those from your time?

jo j
nice post

but

who's Gallagher?

my 2 cents
this was a nice column

and

I liked it

that's all

Again, interesting and nice story but .
Glad he got things together. My personal story is almost identical, down to age of Ph.D. (though I wasn't a fancy pants soccer player, but at my school that was for the girls who didn't make the football or wrestling team.)

Still though, the author seems might thin skinned and constantly defensive. Why is it "hate mail" when somebody disagrees with him? Methinks he takes himself with a bit more than histrionic disorder.

It makes a nice testiomonial, which I always enjoy -- and more power to him for his recovery [I know how hard it is], but this reader prefers Townhall for its political stories.

To him I say: Do not give up. And there is nothing wrong with working with one's hands. It can be the most honorable type of labor.


Maintenace Guy
I think you missed his point.

It isn't that he thinks less of auto-mechanics. It's that it wasn't what he wanted to do.

Re: The Book of Job
Just a small reminder while re-reading it:

Thinking that it is about patience under trials is like saying "Moby Dick" is a book about a whale.

Good reading. Very appropriate.

I don’t want to put world in Mike’s mout
...but I think those who believe that he’s denigrating auto mechanics have it wrong. He could have used any other job that does not require a degree: janitor, dishwasher, chef. The point I think he was trying to make is that if he had become a mechanic it’s because he would have settled for a job that he drifted into because he did not strive for something he really wanted to do.

If I had not been awarded a scholarship after high school, I would have gone to work in a factory as an hourly laborer. There is nothing wrong or dishonorable about that, but it’s not what I wanted to do; I would have “settled.” But for people who strive to become auto mechanics, who love the chance to work on cars, that’s great. Just like the short order cook who wants to become a gourmet chef.

And for some of us, God works in mysterious ways. We get fired, or the business closes and we’re required to make a decision and … all of a sudden we find ourselves better off than we ever thought we would be.

mout = mouth
don't know how I missed the "H"

I hope it is true.
From your lips to God's ears, Mr Adams.

just remember....
those that can do - those that can't teach...

The fact that there are some incredibly talented and maybe even artistic auto mechanics out there doing amazing things isn't what this is about...

Neither is the fact that Adams finally got his F.M together got a PhD...

Its all about working with the tools one has one hand and making the best of it...


Could of been
Great article Mike. If not for the intervention of 'The Unmentionable', I too would have suffered a similar 'could have been', but I was destined to be a welder once, in another lifetime.

God
The God of the Bible is sovereign over all of creation. He defines right and wrong in His Law, the Ten Commandments, and is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient in all things. He is not a helpless, wimpering, effeminate being. He is not the creation of man's imagination or deserving of pity. He demands awed reverence.
The sovereignty of God in the Scriptures is absolute, irresistible, infinite. He governs the universe, which he made for His own glory, just as He pleases. He has the right, as the Potter, to mold the clay, man, as He chooses. He is under no rule or obligation to give an account of Himself to His creatures.He gives mercy to whom He pleases, and it is not a right to which man is entitled. Mercy is the attribute of God by which He pities and relieves the wretched.The objects of God's mercy are those who deserve punishment but instead, receive what they do not deserve.
God speaks to the meek, the wretched, the humble, the broken. He first revealed His Son to shepherds and travellers from afar- two of the most unlikely groups of people. The humble were singled out for great honor; the learned and elite passed by.
God gives His mercy to those whom He chooses, in grace and sovereignty, and often to the most unlikely and unworthy.

Hmm
This was a fine piece, but I can’t help but wonder about Mike’s thinking. The story is actually about the unexpected twists and turns of life that all of us experience. There is nothing in this story to inspire or convince so why does Mike query that? Also, his advice offered in the end is very good, but I don’t see as how Mike applies it very often. In fact, Mike is not an optimist as far as we can tell. Certainly he does write the occasional optimistic piece, but most of his work is dedicated to doom, gloom and pessimistic complaining.

Study a broad progam
I'm there. I wonder if I can do an internship? I hope I can study a broad just through non-personal means - I'd hate to have a restraining order endanger my studies.

Abovethesun
Wow, your god demands awed reverence? That sounds like quite an ego problem. My God doesn’t make demands. Sure, He has His laws and very specific criteria to enter His kingdom, but he gave me free will so I could make the decision on my own, without coercion.


MR Center
Now I really feel cheated. There was no MR (Mr.) Center when I went to college - we were forced to fumble our way through "Study a Broad" programs all on our own.

Kids today sure have it made! (At UNC-Wilmington anyway!)

Way Finder, maybe, as you wrote,
When you set your sights too low, that's what you'll hit.

Or maybe, If you set your sights too low . . . you'll miss that, too.

thanks
Thanks, Mike.
I needed that more than you know.
Mike

MikeR
You label what Mike does as 'complaining.' I consider it bringing perceived unjustice into the light so we all may evaluate. Without putting too many words in his mouth, the optimist in Mike is telling him that if said preceived injustice is only dragged out of the darkness of a certain university president's office and into the public square, wrongs can be made right. They can be made right because I have optimism and faith in the good common sense of the average citizen.

You call it complaining. I call it exposing.

Mike! You played... SOCCER?
Back in the caveman days, there was a big problem with people getting eaten by saber-tooth tigers. Eventually, several groups figured out something to do about that.

One group started making weapons like clubs to fight off the saber-tooths. They were very successful.

A second group started making various sorts of leather armor to help protect themselves while they fought off the saber-tooths. They were very successful.

A third group tried beating off the saber-tooths by hitting them with their heads! These were, uh, shall we say, uh... unsuccessful?

But the first two groups managed to fight off the saber-tooths until saber-tooth tigers became extinct due to Global Warming. This is unfortunate, because the dumb "hit 'em with your head" group did not go extinct and so all three groups are still with us.

The "beat 'em off with clubs" group became the great tool-makers and inventors. They still use clubs -- they play BASEBALL.

The armor-making group became the great defenders of all that is true, right, and good (thus they became conservatives). They still wear armor -- they play FOOTBALL.

The third group tend to suffer a lot of brain damage hitting things (like balls) with their heads, and so they become libs. And they play... uh, they play that game they play in France.

Congratulations
Excellent article, Mike. I nearly always enjoy an agree with articles. However, you failed to mention the greatest obstacle to your success, the substandard education received at Mississippi State! Despite that, you have achieved much AND have a positive outlook on life! Way to go!

Ole Miss Graduate

The Divine Hand
I too see how my life has been touched by the Divine Hand. All the circumstances that appeared to be negative in my life were actually preparing me for the life I now lead and the wonderful wife and kids I have now.

The road to salvation is so easy even an Ole Miss Graduate can do it.

University of Mississippi
Class of 1981.

IGoCommando
Fair enough, I accept that his mission is exposing rather than complaining. Yet even in that, I don’t find much optimism and certainly never inspiration in Mike’s writing. I think he tries to evoke outrage and provoke reaction from his reader to an intended target. There is nothing wrong with that, not in the least; but it is a very telling part of human nature that he sees himself as an optimist.

Mechanics
I don't think Mike is insulting mechanics. It is an honorable job, which many men (and some women) enjoy, but a difficult way to earn a living.

We have a good friend who is a great mechanic and who enjoys it. In his early forties now, he has constant pain in his hands and his back and is trying to find a way to support his family when his body gives out.

"It wasn't what he wanted to do"
Looks like military service is another thing Mikey Adams "didn't want to do."

Chickenhawkism - the true legacy of the Bush administration!

Two questions
There are two questions that ultimately define every perosn's life: is there a God, and, if so, what is His nature. Every decision you make, and all of your ideas about life flow from your answer to these questions. Even if your answer is, "God is irrelevant", that will direct the flow of your life.

I think it is perfectly reasonable for a person whose conclusion is that they have been changed by a personal relationship with the God who gave His only begotten Son to pay the price for their sins to want to talk about it. It is honest and open, even if it rubs some people the wrong way. If you think about it, the person who says you should "keep your religion to yourself" is being a hypocrite, since he is sharing his religious views with you by saying that.

Soothsayer
Ad homenim attacks: the true legacy of liberals

not enough about positive thinking
the best book on this idea is norman vincent peale "the power of positive thinking".
he teaches how through prayer and scripture and techniques of projecting your future you can have positive circumstances in your life.


GWCO2
"Ad homenim attacks: the true legacy of liberals"

Yes, and we can all tell by your post that conservatives would never do such a terrible thing.

No liberal here
Not a lib, but I also think he put down mechanics in the column. "thank god I didn't end up a mechanic!" was the tone of that passage. Not "I never wanted to be a mechanic, thank god I didn't have to".

It amazes me how even internet columnists develop groupies who defend their every word. Glassy eyed converts, I guess.

Also note that he spent far more words trying to build a picture of himself as a star athlete (bragging, is the term) than on the foolishness of his youthfull ways and the fact that sometimes you can make good out of bad, which got tossed in at the end almost as an afterthought.

He almost seems to be wanting us to hear how he is a golden boy and if you'd just be a Christian everything will turn out rosy and the worst thing that might happen is you get a bone spur. If only.

With Christians like Mike as the face of the religion we should be getting rounded up and put in internment camps in about 20 years. I couldn't blame them if every Christian were this annoying.

Quick edits.
You wrote, "(sorry Mom and Dad if you’re reading this)."

My edit would have read, "(sorry, Mom and Dad, if you’re reading this)."

You wrote, "I was certain that I was one of several players on the team who were headed for the pros."

My edit would have read, "I was certain that I was one of several players on the team who was heading for the pros."

You wrote, "Over the next few months it began to actually hurt so I went to see a doctor."

My edit would have read, "Over the next few months it began actually to hurt so I went to see a doctor."

Your column DOES explain WHY your grammar is poor. At least it is poor, consistently! So something positive CAN be said of your education!

you know
I too think Mike is a braggart. That is the reason I find his “conversion” to be convenient. He is not a chicken hawk because he supports the war yet failed to serve himself. He is one because he brags of his martial skills and desire to employ them.

Ad homenim attacks
If it were not for 'Ad homenim attacks' most Libs would not have much to say...

Silly comments like the one I just made aside,
I thought it was one of Dr. Adams better posts.


What is there about
a belief in god that makes people optimistic? All my non- believing friends and my own non-believing husband are very pessimistic people, ususally expecting the worst. What is there about patriotic, country loving conservatives that make them generally optimistic? Consider the failure of liberal talk shows mainly because their pessimistic anger just drags people down.

loco
mly experience has been exactly the opposite

have you ever listened to country music. not much optmisim there.
ed shultz is a roaring success as a liberal talk show host beating all consevatives on the west coast.

What is an Ad Homenim attack
My 14 yr old nephew is visiting, and when he saw my post he was also confused as to what constitutes an ad homenim attack.

Not all personal criticisms are ad homenim attacks; if I say Rudy Giuliani should not be president because he has a mean streak a mile wide, that is not an AHA, because a person's temperment is relevant to his suitablilty for the presidency.

But if Rudy says he is in favor of gun control, and my argument is that he is "mean", that would constitute an AHA, since his temperment is not relevant to the question of whether gun control is sound public policy.

Similarly, if I point out that it seems to me that liberals use a lot of ad homenim attacks, it is not an AHA in and of itself, because I am not using it as a substitute for argument, which is the defining characteristic of the logical fallacy.

Critical thinking has gone the way of the dinosaur, thanks to the teachers' unions, but we can bring it back.

A Ph.D. is needed???
A Ph.D. is needed to get a good job? That frightens me. My brother, a Ph.D. college professor for nearly 50 years, says my brain was not cluttered with the things they teach in college, so it was available to accept and process new ideas about computers. I’ll agree with that! Wait a minute, did he mean my brain was empty?

My two years of milking 50 cows before going to High School to sleep in class, prepared me for a career in computers. Of course a college with programs about computers did not yet exist, but I spent some time at MIT on the Whirlwind, at UCLA on the SWAC, and at RAND on the Johnniac, later wrote the manuals and trained NASA on computers used to put men on the moon. After all that, my brother was still teaching Math in his 70s, and I didn’t retire from the computer business until I was 50.

So I guess I was just lucky that computers came of age in about 1950, and so did I. Oh and by the way, I spent my 18th birthday on a troopship in the harbor at Singapore, an early start on my many years of travel, both in business and worldwide travel for pleasure with my Beautiful Sweetie.

religiouslib and country music
Country music lacks optimism? Excuse me?

I have been listening to country my entire life, and it is actually brimming with optimism. Yes, there are many songs about the dark parts of life, and I am sure many people will post depressing lyrics as examples. But there are also many songs about faith, hope, the value of hard work, and perseverence in the face of adversity.

It is the optimism of the country singer that lets him sing about the saddest thing he can think of, because he knows that there is more to life than just what he can see. It is rock stars who commit suicide, not country stars.

Finally, sad songs have the benefit of letting people who are going through a hard time that they are not alone, that it is part of life, and that there is a future for them. Counterintuitive as it is, sad songs can actually ease your pain.

Some Totally Missed The Point
Those who say Prof. Adams denigrated labor fields and employees totally missed the point, which was be the BEST "whatever" you can be. Don't settle for easy, it will never be so. Those things that come without sacrifice, pain, persistence or perseverence are seldom worth even the little effort put forth.
My husband is a manual laborer, my son is a certified welder, BOTH have received recognition and accolades for their work beyond that of their co-workers because they daily strive to be the best at what they do.
Some behind a desk are in a prison of their own making despite the fat wallet ... others are rich and free creating works of great strength, purpose and oft taken for granted importance though they don't exhibit the signs of material accumulation. What has been lost is personal responsibility and the sense of pride in accomplishment for accomplishment's sake ... it really has nothing to do with a PhD or a blue-collar degree, but with being the best PERSON one can be.

Loco
You are a regular at TH. You should know full well that the threads are filled with pessimistic comments coming from folks who believe strongly in God and/or are “patriotic, country loving conservatives”. That you should perceive things the other way is similar to Dr. Adams thinking that he is an optimist.

religious lib and Mike
All of us are speaking from experience. Yours is no more valid than mine! We are not talking about scientific research. Ours are anedotal. We all see what we want to see. You two see pessimism but I prefere optimism.

Loco
Of course we are speaking from experience and I never claim a greater validity to my opinions or experiences. You made a broad statement and I disagreed. You stated two sources for optimism. I stated that they don’t always work. Yet optimism exists. Perhaps the source comes from something else. Still, Adams is not an optimist, but believes that he is. There is nothing wrong with that. It is part of human nature.

2skeptic
wasn't putting country music down, i listen to it as well, along with all kinds of music, its just that traditional country music in particular is based (like the blues) on hard times and lovers that are untrue.

of course there are some uplifting songs but i was simply responding to loco who wanted to say country loving conservatives are optimistic.

MikeR
Please tell me you are not trying to argue that liberals are optimistic and conservatives are pessimistic. Next you’ll be saying the MSM is skewed to the right, the Clintons are honest people, Teddy doesn’t drink, and Rosie O’ is the genius of our time.

Soccer?
Everyone knows soccer is a liberal indoctrinational sport meant to dumb down and frustrate the players. Thus creating good non-thinking liberals. That bone spur was our gain.

Icedog
No, not in the least. I think optimism lies independent of the part of our minds that focuses on politics. Optimism and pessimism can be found in every group; and yes religion, politics, life experiences as well as many other things can affect our out look, but I don’t think they create it of their own.

Hey, nice touch adding insults Clintons, Teddy and Rosie to make your point. The liberals at other sites use the same tactic. It seems that cheep shots are also independent of political leanings.

MikeR
You stated that TH is, "filled" with pessimistic comments coming from “patriotic, country loving conservatives”.

My apologies, don't know how I assumed you were stating conservatives were pessimistic.

The other part of my post was just a little humor illustrating the absurdity of your statement.

Evil Republican: 12:32 post
You seem to be an uncharitable sort. I am not certain what point, beyond meanness compels you to make your un-provable assertions in such a hateful manner. It strikes me that the world is not a better place for having people like you in it. Therefore, whatever worldview it is that you are selling, I’m not buying. The image you present through your “testimonial” is not much of an inducement.

re: speaking your truth
Mike,

Thanks for sharing your heart. As a high school teacher, I am always amazed at the promise that sits and fails my class. I will take heart when I remember your story. I hope we all are as brave as we face an uncertain future.

religiouslib
what is the west coast? few people seem to have heard of the place- no wonder a lib has an audience -of deviates

EvilRepublican
Evil,

I spent a lot of years believing that God was here to serve me, to make me happy, to get me what I wanted. Sounds like you're in that place.

For what it' worth, I had it 180 degrees wrong. He's not here to serve me....I'm here to serve Him.

That might be a fairy tale to you, but it unlocked the meaning of life for me. I live every day trying (I say trying because I still fail a lot) to live that. The days I keep Him at the center of my life are the best days of my life.

I have graduate level degrees and have spent a lot of time around educated people. Most of them are miserable. The ones who trust God AND LIVE A LIFE OF SERVICE instead of demanding that He cater to them are the happiest people I've ever met. I can't explain it, but I can't deny it either. You're proof.

Evil Repub
I have seen your rants on God a few times now....it amazes me how much time that atheists like yourself spend denying God’s existence. I don’t believe in the Tooth Fairy, but can’t remember ever trying to convince others of my opinion.

Here’s a little advice...that little voice you hear is trying to tell you something.

Icedog
You probably made that assumption by not reading the post in context to the thread. As it was addressed to an individual instead of the community at large, it was a response to a previous comment. Furthermore, a section was in quotation marks making it clear that the phrase was used by someone earlier. Your assumption may also have been aided in the desire to counter any negative comments or dissention against Dr. Adams. And yes, I know that the last part was humor. Dr. Adams himself and Al Frankin both say they were just joking for some of their more egregious remarks. If you would like to see the validity of my claim, check Carol Platt Liebau’s column. The thread contains many pessimistic comments made by conservatives.

o yes phil
the west coast is nothing but deviants to you huh.

please, exactly what century are you living in.

ed shultz is on 400 affiliates nation wide.



MikeR
Ok...I'll just ask you straight out: generally speaking, do you believe conservatives are more pessimistic than liberals?

Icedog
No, I don’t. I’ve found that pessimism/optimism runs about equal between the two groups. Loco claimed that people who believe in God or are patriotic, country loving conservatives are generally optimistic. I claim that is not necessarily true and site the comments found here as proof. There is nothing more to it.


Optimism and pessimism
It took 30 years to learn how to pray, and to realize that I am not PERFECT! I drove myself crazy trying to do every job perfectly thinking that if I did not, I was (somehow) not any good. When I established my one on one with my Higher Power, God spoke to my heart so that I could understand I was still loved by Him as an imperfect human. Just as I love my daughter regardless of what she did, He loved me as my Father.
I say this since I was boarder-line OCD with this perfectionism, frustrated to no end trying to do things "right." I came to realize that I did not have to live in fear of not being perfect and just doing a good job. When I quite worrying about being perfect, my life got so much easer. The best grades I received were from my Master program, and I did not check my grades until I put in for the Degree. I did not pressure myself, but just enjoyed every class. They were my best grades ever… A GPA of 3.86 in a 4.0 system.
I write this because I have read several posts that talk about doing something in a (best you can) way. I am old enough and happy enough to see now that there is an equilibrium that I have found that works best for me. I have come to understand that not everything needs to be done perfectly, but to put it in perspective and a priority of all things. Some things are just more important then other things. I can't speak for others, but that is what works for me.

religous lib
I looked up your lib broadcaster and you lie (typical lib)in the 3 most liberal states in the U.S.and they were only 17 total in those 3 states.Please inform me where the other 383 are

religious lib
"ed shultz is a roaring success as a liberal talk show host beating all consevatives on the west coast."

I think you need to check the radio station stats for the major cities on the West Coast.

It doesn't matter how many affiliates he is on, you need to check the total market share.

Soothsayer
"It wasn't what he wanted to do"
Looks like military service is another thing Mikey Adams "didn't want to do. Chickenhawkism - the true legacy of the Bush administration"

How do you get to these statements based on this article?

This article was neither left nor right, neither Liberal or Conservative, neither Republican nor Democrat, neither pro-military nor anti-military.

And yet, you somehow bring up Dr. Adams's military service and your assessment of the Bush administration.

GWCO2, SKAK
The Merriam-Webster definition of ad hominem:

Main Entry: ad ho·mi·nem
Pronunciation: (')ad-'hä-m&-"nem, -n&m
Function: adjective
Etymology: New Latin, literally, to the person
1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

I would also include stupid generalizations about people or groups, i.e., "Liberals are all..., Catholics are all...." , etc.

Get the picture?

Looking for Controversy
This is a nice little article about maturity and how accidents play into that. It was not an attack on liberals or mechanics. Dr. Adams would have been unhappy as a mechanic. I would have been unhappy with what I did in high school as well.

Instead, everyone seems to want to turn this into an attack. We get his military service analyzed, he is accused of whining, and a variety of other insults are tossed in from all over.

People are responding to the man and their feelings toward him. They are not responding to what he wrote. It's almost as though many of the comments are written before the article.

Not sure why this is so hard...
But the story this guy wrote is about "how to live," which involves making choices. I merely noted that, like most of his neocon brothers and sisters, Mikey made the choice not to serve in the military. His priority was playing soccer and attending college for nearly ten years.

I know you people watch fox news and listen to rush limbaugh, but this isn't really very difficult to follow. I'll try using easier words.

Evil Repub
Did you actually tell a guy who lost his pitching arm to cancer to "call you" when his arm grew back? What was the context of that conversation (if you don't mind)?

MrBannanaGrabbe,
Being a mechanic for over thirty years I have to admit I looked closely to what he was saying but don’t feel it’s a put down, it just wasn’t what he wanted and having a son who just graduated college its also not for him. I never pushed my son to follow in my foot steps even though he does have a respect for what we do, especially now that he’s working here while he’s looking to get into his field but it pays the bills.
I am very proud of what I do and have been self employed 18 years but understand any one not wanting to do things that don’t interest them.
Bruce

Providence
When testimonies are offered, and there is allusion to providential intervention, the skeptic will always gravitate to logical answers to explain away that which is not measurable and empirically verifiable. That's OK. The human condition seems to always come back to wanting to understand and control everything. Human history is also replete with testimonials of encountering a "spiritual" world. These world views continually clash. The skeptic may say: "God, if you're up there let the battleship Missouri float down main street." If water running down by the curb then contained a plastic replica of The Missouri, just released by a young boy where his dad was washing the car, the skeptic would then reply, "That's not what I meant and you know it."
That's a homely story, but the facts are that we who have been born into this world will pass out of this world at some point. Everyone just has to deal with that, one way or another. Mike is just telling his story.

Evil Republican
"If Mike Adams believes in this war, he should be fighting it himself. I'll give Krauthammer a pass, but the rest of you need to pick up guns and put your sorry derrieres where your mouths are."

What does Mike Adams' military service, or the lack of it, have to do with anything in this article?

What does my military service (don't make me tell you about it) have to do with this article?

I see that you and several others do not care what Dr. Adams says. You will use any of Adams' columns to insult others and try vainly to show how clever you are.

Please talk about the article, or go to some other site where users would more appreciate your wit and intelligence.


Icedog
You're very pompous. Atheists feel compelled to defend their non-belief because they don't want to live in "A Christian Nation" (aka Christian Shari'a), and they're insulted when Christians pry into their business only to inform them with with wide-eyed sincerity that they will spend eternity in Hell if they don't convert to Christianity right now. If they get upset sometimes, it isn't because of some nagging voice telling them that the boatloads of sanctimonious Christian drivel they hear every day are true. It's because they're fed up with being treated rudely and having the specter of compulsory belief constantly hanging over them.

Rick
Hey Rick, Mike's lack of ability utilizing grammar correctly comes from his graduation from Moo U. Ole Miss grads will understand what I am saying.
Had Mike instead moved upstate and received his education from Ole Miss, his grammar would have been just a skosh better.

Taproot
Ole Miss - 83

PS: Religiouslib: Shultz is not on here in one of the more liberal of states; Wisconsin.

Soothsayer
"But the story this guy wrote is about "how to live," which involves making choices. I merely noted that, like most of his neocon brothers and sisters, Mikey made the choice not to serve in the military. His priority was playing soccer and attending college for nearly ten years.

I know you people watch fox news and listen to rush limbaugh, but this isn't really very difficult to follow. I'll try using easier words."

First, please stop the insults. In my experience, people without a good argument usually turn to insults. I believe that most of us can understand any words, hard or easy, that you may use.

Second, I ask again: What does my military service, my choice of TV channels, or my listening choices on AM radio stations have to do with this discussion?

The article pointed out a personal account of the changes that took place in Dr. Adams' life. It did not discuss his military record or lack of it. It did not address Fox News Channel. I don't believe Rush Limbaugh was mentioned.

The article stands on its own. If you cannot discuss this article in an intelligent way, please go to another site where you will be more appreciated.

Some people
aren't happy that everyone else is not miserable too.

Appreciate
A strong person who can peel away appearances and reveal something about his own weakness, as we all have them.

Mike, this is the only part that bothered me any.

quote:
My most recent column generated more than its fair share of hate mail. Perhaps the most notable was from a self-described conservative who said he was sick and tired of hearing my views on religion which were, in his view, characterized by an annoying form of “Hallmark Card optimism.” I’ve decided to meet him halfway in today’s column. I won’t talk about why I’m a Christian.
--------


You give this man an honor he did not deserve allowing him to control what you say as to your faith.

I do not see it as respect he deserves myself as it puts him in charge of your liberty and freedom of speech.

If he does not like what you have to say, he does not have to read it.

Appreciate
A strong person who can peel away appearances and reveal something about his own weakness, as we all have them.

Mike, this is the only part that I care to comment on.

quote:
My most recent column generated more than its fair share of hate mail. Perhaps the most notable was from a self-described conservative who said he was sick and tired of hearing my views on religion which were, in his view, characterized by an annoying form of “Hallmark Card optimism.” I’ve decided to meet him halfway in today’s column. I won’t talk about why I’m a Christian.
--------


You give this man an honor he did not deserve, allowing him to control what you say as to your faith.

I do not see it as respect he deserves myself, as it puts him in charge of your liberty and freedom of speech.

If he does not like what you have to say, he does not have to read it.

Computer error
sorry
I do not know how I got a double post.

Its happened twice today, I will try and find the cause so as not to do it again

wish it were true
Quote:
There is no tragedy or setback so great that it cannot be turned into a blessing with the help of a little persistence and hard work.

My brother has brain cancer. He is going to die soon. How can a little persistence and hard work turn that into a blessing for him? For his wife? For his two kids?

PhD
It's hate mail when the person who sends you the email says "I hate you." You obviously have never read the hate mail that he shows on his website.

You're confused: It's the libs/lefties who call disagremment on their perversities by clear thinking people "hate mail." They are the think skinned ones, the ones who want to shut up any disagreement with their promotion of foul, pathetic, perverse sickness.

MikeR: Mike Adams is an optimist...
...a Christian.

MikeR writes: Monday, July, 23, 2007 9:15 AM
Hmm
This was a fine piece...Certainly he does write the occasional optimistic piece, but most of his work is dedicated to doom, gloom and pessimistic complaining.

No, you don't understand that when Mike writes a piece that you find dedicated to doom/gloom/pessimistic complaining, a clear thinking person knows that he is dedicated to getting rid of the lib/lefty business that inspired the column. And he inspires me to work to rid the world of that lib/lefty nonsense--no one has gotten me to do more to promote sanity, clear thinking, to get rid of the lib/lefty perversions than Mike Adams. I am deeply indebted to him for his courage. He has made himself the target of every frothing at the mouth feminist, homosexualist, lib/lefty, secularist, humanist, relativist, etc, etc, etc. We will win this battle, having resources that the libs/lefties cannot imagine.

Life and How to Live it...IX
Terrific piece...among many other terrific columns through the months. Consistently trenchant observations sprinkled with wit and irony. This bit of personal history is so revealing, and should be so on point for today's high school graduates.

good piece
Mike, Thanks again. Perspective and self awareness are so important in the scientific and temporal realm, but so often it's forgotton that it is faith in oneself from which the first two attributes spring.

thin skinned ones, not...
...think skinned ones

ChrisK
You, I and your brother are going to die. We often don't know the timing. When someone like your brother has received a reliable diagnosis, he can make every effort to say to his loved ones what most of us never say because we often act like we're immortal. He can communicate with everyone around him about life and its preciousness. He can do that without caring about others' opinions, something else many of us fail to do. Lastly, everyone he talks to, especially his family, will likely treasure his communications far more than the ones casually communicated in the swim of everyday life.
I sure don't intend to sound glib or know-it-all. Some time ago, I wrote a letter to my wife that I want her to open only if she outlives me. I will do that for my six children and three grandchildren if I can force myself to make time. I highly recommend it; what you say, I assure you, will be for real. While doing that exercise, you'll also face your own mortality. It's a sobering and fairly healthy reality check and may cause you to view your own family differently.

Sincerely

proof read
Dear Mr. Chrisk

I just proof read my post to you. In the last part, I don't mean to imply that you currently view your family poorly. clearly, you care deeply about your brother and your family. I only meant to suggest that writing to family members as if it were your last act can be quite meaningful and will put you into a mindset whereby your appreciation of them probably will be enhanced.

No offense intended.

Luis
One of the many responses I've seen on this blog, posted by both religious and non-religious conservatives, was that particular posters should "drink a can of drano", "be the star of your own fatal accident", or "do all of us a favor and kill yourself".

Would you call this "hate mail"?

Mike's story
Mike, I loved hearing your story! A side note:
my mechanic has a degree! And he's still a mechanic! I wouldn't take my car anywhere else!
Some are called to be ph.d's; some are called to be mechanics. Just do it for God's glory! Great column.

Great Column, Mike...
...If for no other reason than you bring out the best and worst in your readers. There are those of class and then there are the classless - and then there are those who occupy the bottom of the sewer: Evil republican.

I don't know why some here were ready to leap to the conclusion that your were denigrating the manual trades by aspiring in another direction. I've been acquainted with Masters in Mechanical Engineering who were motorcycle mechanics. It really comes down to what a person can do and wants badly enough to do.

But try doing that wherever liberalism has forced itself into our lives and enterprises - Result: opportunities shortcuircuted, resources misappropriated and wasted and mediocrity prevailed.

Again, without mentioning it, spitituality seemed to permeate your rededication. It was an illustration of a universal truth - no one can give you what you will not give yourself (i.e. self-esteem, self respect, etc.) despite what libs claim gov't and they can do, fools that they are.

There's much inspiration in your story - your students may find something in it they would not in mere classwork. But as it's been said, only the wise profit from another's experience. And as we've seen here, the classless and clueless pick, snivel and laugh - and profit not a whit.

It's a shame...
No one plays the exquisitely civilized game of Cricket in the United States any more. Baseball's sorta got its own charm, but it's not cricket.

And for all the people who denigrate Soccer? It is a game which requires skill and grace to be able to kick a ball in any direction you choose without using your hands, the things you use the most to manipulate things with. It is a worthy game. Don't ever say that "American Football" is tough until you've played a game of Rugby (The Game they play in Heaven), or Aussie Rules (The Game they play in Hell, but it's way so much more fun), which have the coveted title of "Football" in Australia as well as the Beautiful Game (Soccer).

Protective padding is for wusses, people.


Onto a more serious point, this article had nothing to do with liberalism or lefty feelings. It was about someone who found something within themselves that made them strive to do something better. This is a fundamental human characteristic, and something that both conservatives and liberals do. You mean it was a conservative thing for Martin Luther King to dream that one day the United States could be truly a fair and equal place for all? I doubt he'd call himself a liberal, but I doubt he'd believe that the status quo was adequate either.

Having a dream and striving to be a better person and achieve what you can has about as much to do with your politics as clouds have to do with chihuahuas.

Let us know when you fully recover.
The Evil Republican writes: Monday, July, 23, 2007 6:25 PM

"As a recovering ex-Christian,..."

We'd like to see the new you.
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