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Wednesday, March 14, 2007
Mike Adams :: Townhall.com Columnist
How to bomb a gay bath house
by Mike Adams
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I’ve been thinking about Ann Coulter a lot lately – a real shocker, I know - and I think I’ve finally found a way to get her out of the hot water she’s in over her recent outing of John Edwards. Before I reveal just what she ought to do, I have an obligation to tell her what not to do – especially since she’s getting such bad advice from other conservatives.

The first thing Ann should not do is heed calls that she apologize for using the term “faggot.” The last time I heard that word, I was helping move a friend into his new house in downtown Wilmington. The next door neighbor, who happened to be gay, had us over to grab something to eat and drink.

When someone asked our host the name of the style he used to decorate the living room, his reply was “Early 20th Century Colonial Faggot.” He made the joke partially because he had a few too many drinks before his guests arrived. But he also did it because many homosexuals have never really aspired to the goal of making everyone feel as comfortable as they feel they have a right to feel at all times.

A friend of mine – one who “came out of the closet” over a decade ago - often used the term “faggot” when he was angry at someone. He used the term long after he decided he was gay. But it never occurred to anyone within earshot that a word banning ritual or forced apology was in order.

Put simply, it is permissible for heterosexuals to use the term “faggot” because so many homosexuals use it all the time. The only rebuttal I’ve heard is that the same cannot be said with regard to the use of the “n-word.” This is an unspeakable insult to black people. Gay persecution does not rival black persecution in the annals (I could not find a better word to insert here) of American history. Any assertion to the contrary is simply too queer to take seriously.

Speaking of the term “queer,” Ann should realize that the term “faggot” will soon be deemed acceptable for everyone’s use in the eyes of the diversity movement. Recall that the term “queer” was once acceptable in America – certainly you remember playing “smear the queer” in grade school. After years of banning the term, the Diversity Offices are now establishing “Queer Resource Centers” on college campuses. And they let you call them that even if you aren’t a queer.

Before long, the executives of Diversity Incorporated – the people who really run this country – will again let us use the term “faggot.” The switch will be necessary because a) Diversity Incorporated makes all of its money on diversity training classes (read: shakedown seminars) in corporate America, and b) these classes are nothing more than a recitation of currently banned words and ideas. (Hence the need to constantly update the list even if it means regressing and calling it “progress”.)

Perhaps the most compelling reason for Ann to refrain from issuing an apology is that it might send the message that homosexuality is somehow “wrong.” Those saying that the implication that Edwards is a homosexual is “defamatory” are suggesting that homosexuality is “bad.” This flies in the face of the teachings of the official religion of the Diversity Movement, which is, of course, moral relativism.

Every time I get into a discussion about homosexuality I am accused of being “secretly gay.” When the accuser is strait, he shows how much he secretly hates homosexuals. When the accuser is gay, he shows how much he secretly hates himself. Ann should not mimic this hatred by apologizing for something Leftists do regularly and unapologetically.

But enough about what Ann ought not to do. Here’s what she should do immediately:

1. Start a website called “Global War on Fags” today.

2. Begin writing essays calling for the cleansing and purification of society via the mass murder of homosexuals.

3. Distribute videos on the website showing the actual murders of homosexuals.

4. Circulate instructions on how to bomb gay bath houses in San Francisco.

5. Circulate a “battle dispatch” to give people specific information on America’s most notorious bath houses.

6. Apply for a job at Kent State University.

At first, the cries for Ann Coulter’s imprisonment will be loud. But once Kent State gets wind of the story (and possession of her job application) a happy ending will soon be in sight (not incite). In fact, I predict that Ann will soon be a professor at Kent State University with good retirement benefits, a health plan, and tenure.

The current Coulter controversy provides more than a good job opportunity for Ann Coulter. It gives Kent State a chance to show its dedication to the First Amendment, not just Muslim extremism.

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Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.
 
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Good suggestions...
"Gay persecution does not rival black persecution in the annals (I could not find a better word to insert here) of American history."

I had a comment, but I am laughing too hard...annals...insert...

hehe
round about delivery but rather funny. will wait and see before some one comes along and doesn't realize he is not being serious

I couldn't get past the part
where Adams used the word, "qu33r."

That would be because I was shocked, shocked that he could use the correct spelling of the word instead of having to use threes or some other invented spelling to get past the TH censors.

Global War on Cigarettes?
Why are people so up in arms about Ann using the British slang for cigarette?

Isn't the Left that is running the war on f@g$ (cigarettes)? I hear that there is a proposed law that will make it illegal for you to be driving with a butt of one between your lips.

I think it is the Left who are actually the intolerant ones, since they have been persecuting those who prefer the you-know-whats for decades.


Mountain Rose
Well, they sure are with regard to the ever lovin' %$#%^& sin tax on cigarettes. It is absurd! Government needs to get out of our lives. It's not going to either, if we keep electing big government statists to office.

The funniest column from Dr Adams!
Back to basics, and doing what you do best, Doc?

Thanks for the best laugh

Mike...

You must get over this obsession with Ann !

She belongs to someone else, not you !

Come on man, get over her !

Oh yeah, sorry brother Mike, but I have decided to endorse Fred Thompson if he runs for President. Maybe you can get on his ticket as VP?


Free Speech is Cool
I do understand that this column is tongue-in-cheek about how PC everyone is these days, but there is a disturbing inkling I get that the things Mike wants Ann to do are the things he really wants to do. But at the end of the day, free speech reigns so it's all good. I can say I wish Dick was blown up to bits, or that Reagan was an incontinent drooling zombie in his last days, and I'm protected. God bless the USA!

Strip tease....
Talk about annoying amd senseless....
I prefer to read an essay by a writer who says what he means; and means what he says...rather than being mentally mislead and jerked around.
I hope Ann Coulter doesn't waste her time on this column (strip)

Well, yes, this would work...
...but only if Ann converted to Islam and moved to Iran. She'd also have to take up with one of the terrorist groups our lamestream media adores and disguise herself as a man in order to get into one of the leadership positions. (Otherwise, they'd make her strap on the bombs and do the suicide bombing herself.) If Ann Coulter were to do any of these things from her current position, the lamestream media spend a solid month condemning her actions, since in their eyes a Muslim terrorist can do no wrong, while Christians, conservatives, and Republicans can do no right.

Honestly, I wonder what the far left nuts will do when they find themselves under Sharia--I mean, all the ones left after the Muslims behead all the abortionists and homosexuals and hang every woman who has ever had sex outside of marriage. I can't help noticing how virtually every leftist in the world is guilty of at least one capital crime according to Sharia. For that matter, would there even be any of them left?

When I consider that I'm probably one of the very few who couldn't be convicted of any of these crimes (though they might kill me anyway for being a Christian), I sometimes wonder why we don't step aside and let the Muslims take over some place full of lefties as a cautionary demonstration to them of what they're advocating; we could try designating, say, Ann Arbor, Michigan a "Sharia Zone" and let the local imams there take over and rule the city any way they please. Maybe receiving their Ann Arbor-dwelling relatives' heads in the mail would convince all the other lefties to stop lionizing our enemies and demonizing our patriots.

Faggotanono
Drats, after submitting so many plays and sonnets
(some rather good!) William Shakespeare will never get a job as a writer/commentator without
"affirmative Action! There I go again conflating
homosexuality with civil rights. Must be an easy way to tell the difference. Color, maybe?

True Story
A blond white Southerner was made Dean of Students at a traditionally black college in the South. Wanting to be accepted by the students, he picked up on current language and slang he heard around campus. He had noticed that these black students familiarly addressed one another as N* (this forum won't accept the word spelled out). One day he walked into the Student Center and greeted the assembly thus (remember to hear this in his Southern accent) : "Hey! How y'll N*s doin'?" I was told that profound silence greeted him.

Is there a lesson here? Yes. Take this article as tongue-in-cheek and don't be calling people faggots.

Allen
"walk up to a random black guy and say 'hey, what's up n*gger?' - after you pick up your teeth, perhaps you can try explaining how it's okay to use that word since they 'use it on each other all time'"

Like Dr. Adams points out, you're comparing apples to oranges friend. Comparing the "gay rights movement" to the civil rights movement is clearly moronic. I'm quoting someone whose name escapes me - "Being black is who you are. Being gay is what you do." Big difference between lifestyle choice and color of your skin.

Geo you need
to wake up. Sarcasm and using ubsurdity to illustrate the ubsurd behavior of the lib-dumb-0-crat population of the nation is a very effective tool.
Unfortunately there is none so blind as he who will not see.

humor?
What are people without a sense of humor doing reading Mike's columns??
For that matter, why are liberals reading Mike's columns??
Oh, did I ask the same question twice?

The whole thing...
...falls under the old rubric of"I can beat my dog,but I don't want anyone else beating my dog." Hence only the Jews can tell jokes about the Jews and only the Irish can tell jokes about the Irish.If you switch the the two,both groups would be insulted.


BTW.This site is having problems.Yesterday I never did get Townhall delivered.Thsi morning it was a little late but it did arrive.No explanation yet.Maybe it is being attacked by enemies.

Sodom and Gommorah, USA
" Every time I ... am accused of being (a closet sodomite) ... (by an open sodomite) .... he (is demonstrating) how much he secretly hates himself. "

"Secretly hates?"

Insidiously!

And therein lies the core of the problem.

For none can qu33r bash to hold a candle to the qu33r bashing that springs from the same black hole from which every sufferer of the sexual psychopathology's projects his own deadly, deviate, destructive and degenerate self-loathing upon all of the rest of us.

This is my second...
...post to this column.Townhall is really having problems.I never recieved the column yesterday and I couldn't even download the site from the day before.Apparently there are two different comment sections.The first one I was on switched me to this thread when I posted a comment on the other thread.

Weird.Very weird.I am about to post this comment but I don't know where I'll end up.

to Nam
I have had the same experience, Nam. No column in the mail and a confusion with the comment pages. Ruins my whole day!!!

Nam & emmmjay
You're not alone. I get the email, but am unable to access any of the columns.

I've had to resort to going to TH website to get my fix.

walt, Nam and emmmjay,
The site is not much better. Most of my attempts have time out or responded with the server is too busy. They changed the layout again and the last time it took weeks to straighten out all the mess. It could also be those "oh-so-tolerant" leftist hackers trying to silence the site.

As to Mike's column, great one! And he didn't even mention again that he had lunch with Ann. I am still waiting for one of the libdolt attorneys to explain where in the constitution the right not to be offended is enumerated!!

UH...
Mike, you write some darn fine articles. This one, however, was a complete waste of my time. Stop obsessing.

Actually Geo
The joke is on liberal apologists for homosexuality, not homosexuals per se.

But of course no one expects a liberal to have a sense of humor. The only thing funny to liberals is making jokes about Cheney or Bush dying horrible deaths.

Freaking liberal hypocrites.

What a job
It's great to start your day with laughter. On top of it, you are completely correct. Ann should never even consider apologizing for those comments, and I’m sure she doesn’t.

Some of the so-called conservative pundits are so concerned about the opinions of the left that they become part of the PC Thought Police. Why do they care what these people think? Do they really respect the opinion of people who would vote for someone like Kerry or Edwards? I don’t get it.

Second, Edwards didn’t mind this. If he didn’t want to be made fun of he wouldn’t act the way he does. I’m sure he learned that in Kindergarten. For him, this is a fundraising opportunity. He knows who his supports are and he knows how to hustle money from fools (he learned a few things in his career as a class action attorney).

The vast left-wind idiocracy pays him money when conservatives call him names. Think about it. What a job. Somebody calls you a name and thousands of morons send you hundreds of thousands of dollars. If people paid me money every time somebody called me a name I think I’d be bumping Gates and Buffet down a notch on the Forbes list.

WD
That is an interesting argument about the word "qu**r" working its way into the mainstream, and that "faggot" will soon follow. Even though Mr. Adams distinguishes the n-word, that word also has started to work its way into the mainstream in the black community. For example, no black musical artist in the 70s or 80s would have included the n-word in his or her lyrics, but it happens all the time today. And, similar to the word "faggot" being used by gays, black people often use the n-word among themselves. In fact, Robert Byrd even thought it acceto use the n-word in explaining that there can be white n-words and black n-words. Of course, the former Klansman may not be the best example; Mr. Adams is right that it is improper for a white person to use the word today. But the fact that Byrd wasn't excruciated in the press means that the n-word could be on its way into the mainstream, or at least closer to it.

My Irony Meter is Getting Something...
"For none can qu33r bash to hold a candle to the qu33r bashing that springs from the same black hole from which every sufferer of the sexual psychopathology's projects his own deadly, deviate, destructive and degenerate self-loathing upon all of the rest of us."

Ah yes, that's what's got the thing going.

Kathy
You aren't suggesting that homosexuals are child molesters, are you? The sad truth is that child molesters are twisted heterosexual men, who have a perverse attraction for kids.

What a job
It's great to start your day with laughter. On top of it, you are completely correct. Ann should never even consider apologizing for those comments, and I’m sure she doesn’t.

Some of the so-called conservative pundits are so concerned about the opinions of the left that they become part of the PC Thought Police. Why do they care what these people think? Do they really respect the opinion of people who would vote for someone like Kerry or Edwards? I don’t get it.

Second, Edwards didn’t mind this. If he didn’t want to be made fun of he wouldn’t act the way he does. I’m sure he learned that in Kindergarten. For him, this is a fundraising opportunity. He knows who his supports are and
he knows how to hustle money from fools (he learned a few things in his career as a class action attorney).

The vast left-wind idiocracy pays him money when conservatives call him names. Think about it. What a job. Somebody calls you a name and thousands of morons send you hundreds of thousands of dollars. If people paid me
money every time somebody called me a name I think I’d be bumping Gates and Buffet down a notch on the Forbes list.

hilarious
Yeah, it sure is hilarious to read "jokes" like this:

Begin writing essays calling for the cleansing and purification of society via the mass murder of homosexuals.

especially when I can then go to Wikipedia and read this:

Hitler elevated Himmler's status and he became very active in the suppression of homosexuality. He exclaimed, "We must exterminate these people root and branch... the homosexual must be eliminated."

You may be right that gay persecution is not the same as black persecution (at least in America, as you wrote), but it's sad that you minimize the very real persecution that has taken place and continues to take place against gays around the world.

Dr Adams
I'm not sure about the first part of the article, but the second part, the allusion to julio pino, is absolutely spot on. The thought/speech police protect the most absurd people (pino) and the most absurd thoughts (pino's violent islamism), but think that ann's comment is the worst thing to ever occur.

allen:

have you heard of andrew stone? he's a psycho liberal who went into the house of a college republican and started to punch the latter and his roommates because they support the war.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006924.htm

how about noam chomsky supporting hezbollah's decision not to disarm?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22454

how about the ACLU is suing a school board on behalf of a student who was expelled for posting on the internet, rap lyrics threatening to shoot up his school and for naming a potential victim. The ACLU said the lyrics are "protected speech" since they were "composed at home and not brought to school."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/3/201603.shtml

liberals support psychotic, violent ideas. ann did not call for the death of anyone, nor did she say we should harm anyone or violate their rights. oh, but she's the worst individual out there.

allen: please move to the middle east and join the suicide bombers.

drewrush
Outstanding post.

Unfortunately, these lib whiners will never move out since they lack a set of nuts and thus, cannot put up nor will they shut up.

On my blog, I have a story on John Leftwards, ambulance-chaser extraordinaire and multi-millionaire trying to pass himself off as a champion for the masses! haha.

What makes it scary is that a teacher, a libeducrat of course, falls for it!!!!

Check it out!

Lydia
You're almost right --those that don't give a hoot about America already have muscled their way into power-in the last election

Couple of points....
Ken writes: "You aren't suggesting that homosexuals are child molesters, are you? The sad truth is that child molesters are twisted heterosexual men, who have a perverse attraction for kids."

Wrong Ken (or is it Barbie?): "The greater percentage of child molesters do practice homosexuality (in some cases along with heterosexuality). Regardless of what cover homosexuals use (Priest, Scout Leader, Teacher, etc) they cannot be trusted with children.

Doc Adams writes: "4. Circulate instructions on how to bomb gay bath houses in San Francisco."

Would these instructions be from Freedom Fighter Timothy McVeigh who chose the wrong target in responding to the murder of children, women & men, buy the homosexual Janet Reno?

so funny I forgot to barf
Wow. So the gay rights and civil rights movements aren't comparable because one is who you are and one is what you do. Fine. As a gay man, I can accept that conservatives believe my sexuality is nothing more than who I choose to stick it in. It's insulting and painful, but I understand that's what you're going for. Hey, it's my own fault I haven't found Jesus. (I keep forgetting to check between the sofa cushions.)

But here's the problem. If we can "change", why isn't there a huge, successful movement of previously gay people who found a way to become completely straight and stay that way til the day they die? The original founders of Exodus, two men, eventually married each other. John Paulk, the other poster-boy, is still gettin' down with the boys every chance he gets. Even Haggard, a man known to be so close to God by thousands of his church's members, and our very own President, couldn't even listen to Jesus enough to not be gay. The Ex-Gay movement keeps getting smaller, and Pride parades keep getting bigger.

Hmm, here's a thought: maybe IT DOESN'T WORK. Maybe, gasp, the APA was right! Maybe being gay IS WHO WE ARE, and it's not going anywhere.

So the next Chhristian step is "Everyone's tempted by sin; just don't do it, and you're not sinning." Okay, right. If we've established that I'm not about to start wanting a wife, even if I become pastor of a mega-church in Colorado, than being gay is who I am. Just like being straight is who you are. Would you just do me a favor, because my God says so, and don't have sex with your wife for the rest of your life? I promise, it means you get to go to heaven!! Oh, and don't do it yourself, either- that's dirty.

Bite me.

anti-socialist
"Wrong Ken (or is it Barbie?): "The greater percentage of child molesters do practice homosexuality (in some cases along with heterosexuality). Regardless of what cover homosexuals use (Priest, Scout Leader, Teacher, etc) they cannot be trusted with children."

I wrote a really angry response to this before letting myself cool down and thinking it over. This is just the sort of comment that usually keeps me away from Townhall.

I used to comment here because I had some sort of dream that I could open a lot of minds and show people that a person can be both a homosexual and a conservative, Bible-believing, moral Christian. Call it pride, but I considered myself to be a living apologetic for that idea.

I sympathize with people who may use more acidic terms to describe their opinions of homosexuals. I don't like it, but that's what I envisioned myself to be here to try and change.

You, however, I'm really ticked off at. I am assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that you would like to pass some sort of law to keep homosexuals out of the classroom? If that's the case, then too bad. The only thing I have ever wanted to be in my life is a teacher. I love education, and the only thing I've ever wanted to do is to spend my life helping kids. It's what I think God put me here to do.

So, you can see how I (and any other gay teacher) would be especially angry when they hear someone say that they can't be trusted with children. I can't think of anything less Christian for a supposed Christian to say.

JeffRob: Really?
Homosexuality has gone from the love that dare not speak it's name to the love that won't shut the hell up.

Society isn't so much homophobic as homo-hostile to overt displays of homosexuality. Try to understand the difference.

Hollow arguments
If we substitute Niqqr for Faqqot would you people make the same apologies for Coulter?

Demosthenes
A. Yes, really.

B. What overt displays of homosexuality? What are you talking about? Pride parades? If there's sex happening on one of the floats, I've never seen it. Holding hands in public? Wouldn't that be considered an equal right (when not prevented by threats of violence)? Coming out publicly? Actually, that raises an interesting point-

It definitely seems like the conservative consensus is that gay people should keep it to themselves as much as possible. A sort of Don't Ask/Don't Tell for all of life. We realize, though, that most homophobia comes from people who've never actually cared about a gay person. So, when the son or daughter of a conservative homophobic Christian chooses to come out, it (hopefully, and usually) causes that mom or dad to rethink their stance, realize that gay people can be productive, healthy, caring (even religious!) members of society, and that we deserve equal rights. Because, contrary to conservative rhetoric, that's all we're asking for. For my partner of 5 years and I to be able to hold hands walking in Tupelo, MS or Plano, TX as easily as in NYC or Chicago or S.F. How would that not be equal, and why can't we be?

Free at last?
Not that it matters in the slightest, but in point of fact there are no gay bathouses in San Francisco. They closed decades ago.

And there is no moral difference in being prejudiced against someone because of what they do vs. who they are. Its still wrong. Religion is a choice after all, and we don't complain that Catholics want "special rights" if they ask not to be discriminated against because of their religion.

I'm tired of hearing that gay rights isn't equivilant to civil rights for blacks. Prejudice, no matter toward whom, always has the same roots of hate and fear and ignorance.

Civil rights for blacks isn't the same as the annihilation of all the native American cultures on the north American continent. Or the struggles of women, or Asians or the Irish, or the Polish, or the Catholics, or the Mormons, and on and on and on...

The same thread of hate flows through it all. Martin Luther King understood that when he wrote the following words:

"I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.

This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring."

And if America is to be a great nation this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. ... From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, When we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"

adding insult to insult
Not only is Mr. Adams a very small man, his insecurities on constant display, he's still swinging and missing in the Humor Minor Leagues. Annals, what a knee slapper!

Huh?
****If we substitute Niqqr for Faqqot would you people make the same apologies for Coulter?*****

We'd probably ask Senator Byrd why he still has so many Democratic supporters. He's not as articulate as Obama, you know.

Oh, and "Hi, St. Andi of the Heartache!"

What "Gay Persecution?"
(1) Were homosexuals made slaves and imported against their will?
(2) Did homosexuals have to perform in entertainments which could not be attended by homosexuals?
(3) Did they have to face lower pay (for same work/location)?

If you answered any of the above with "yes", then you've been PWN'ed a long time ago!

Send Mike to see 300!
Mike's missing a bet if he hasn't seen "300" yet. It's got all the things he loves: manly men with washboard abs and cod pieces, lots of killing in defense of freedom, and body oil, lots and lots of body oil.

Mike will be conflicted, though. Does he praise the movie for showing the Spartans fighting the Iranians (pardon me, the Persians)(in any case, Middle Eastern evil dudes who look like patrons of a South Beach disco)? Or, does he pick up on the massively homoerotic tone of the movie and condemn it (to be followed by bombing the theater and calling those FBI buds of his to check out everyone who made the movie.)?

How much you wanna bet that when Mike is out doing target practice with his guns he's got some gay icon targets? Just imagine what a hollowpoint would do to a Nathan Lane target!

Seems like we
have a number of heterophobic people now posting. Oh, and thanks for ruining the word 'gay' for me.

gryphmon
I don't know if I would have posted the entire last 5 paragraphs of the Dream speech, but very, very well stated, nonetheless. Now that's cutting through the bs! Good work.

And Gestell- you're hilarious.

JeffRob
i'm pretty sure you enjoy the same exact constitutional rights that i do. stop begging for special treatment. because that's what it is. here's the mantra of every special interest group i know of: "i'm different, therefore i deserve special treatment. if you don't give it to me, i'm going to whine, complain and write letters to my congressman or woman or favorite lobby until i get what i want. so there!"

sounds more like a 5 year old not getting his way than anything else.

and FYI, i have a gay nephew and a few gay friends. none of them are "in your face" with their lifestyle or demanding special rights (that are already bestowed via the US Constitution.)

Kathy
I was raised by my natural parents who are still to this day happily married and very religious. They even gave me a James Dobson book when I entered puberty. They did not promote homosexuality. The only thing they did was set my coming out back 3 or 4 years by making me feel guilty about my feelings as a child and teenager. If anything, their lack of understanding and acceptance (at that time) about this subject took away my innocence by preventing me from having any sort of normal teenage romantic experiences instead leaving me depressed, lonely, and isolated.

hmm
Mike is just making an analogy here related to the web site for global jihad.
Excuse me, in a regular parade you do not see heteros gyrating against each other and making out and other demonstrtive behavior. They are just having a pareade. homosexuals are way to demonstrative in their parades Male homosexual's sexual behavior is repulsive to a heterosexual male. Hopefully, the individual person is just taken on their own merit.
How many priests molested girls hmmm compared to the other way around? There are hetero child molesters but NMBLA is what group????
also there have been thousands converted back, I know one personally.
10 percent of male sheep (rams) go after male sheep and they found that it was a hormonal problem that could be corrected and thereby the rancher realized a larger flock.
My understanding of the bible is that God made only two people, Adam and Eve and told them to muiltiply. God did not directly make me, you or homosexuals. Homophobic means "fear of same - rather meaningless nade up word.

Kathy
You are personifying homophobia. You're telling me that you're literally scared of homosexuals swooping in and stealing your children. That's not even cool homphobia, that's like...like 1950s homophobia!

You need to meet some nice queers, honey. We're really very nice, and I, for one, am a very good cook. Could I have you over for dinner? You don't have to bring the kids, but I whoop at PS2 "ATV Offroad Fury 3", too.

celtic lass
Please don't misunderstand- I'm not talking about our general constitutional rights. If that were the case, we'da had this won.

I'm talking about the right for loving gay parents to adopt children, of whom there are so many in need.
I'm talking about the right for qualified gay and lesbian workers to have the job security that everyone else does while not having to lie about who they're going home to every night.
I'm talking about the right for gay and lesbian couples nationwide to register legally so that in the event of a death or emergency they're treated like spouses and don't have to spend time and money fighting antiquated law in court.

These aren't constitutional rights, but they aren't "special", they're "equal". And we deserve them.

No gay bath houses in SF!
Frigging imbecile! There haven't been gay bathhouses in San Francisco since the 80's! I wouldn't be surprised to find one in your home, though, when your wife is away!

special rights?
celtic lass, if gay marriage were legal, you would have just as much right to marry someone of the same gender as a gay person so I'm not sure how this is a special right. And if you really believed homosexuality is simply a behavior, then you should have no problem with this since at any moment you could choose to be a homosexual too.

Irrational
Supporters of homosexual sexual activity say that it is just as rational to believe the an_us is just as appropriate a receptacle for an erect, male pen_is as it is to believe the female vagi_na is an appropriate receptacle for an erect, male pen_is. The opponents of homosexual sexual activity say that it is not as rational to believe that the an_us is as appropriate a receptacle for an erect, male pen_is as it is to believe the female vagi_na is an appropriate receptacle for the erect, male pen_is. To evaluate the rationality of a belief, it is best to explore the reasons offered justifying a belief by those who express the belief. The opponents of homosexual sexual activity say it is rational to support their position because using the female vagi_na as a receptacle for the erect, male pen_is is necessary to ensure continuation of the human race. That is pretty difficult to refute. The supporters of homosexual sexual activity say that it is rational to believe that the an_us is an appropriate receptacle for an erect, male peni_s because.... I am not sure what reason they use to support the rationality of this belief. I would welcome enlightenment from them on this issue.


Kathy
Lighten up. Statistics-wise you probably have more to fear from heterosuals "threatening" your children.

Everybody likes to have a boogey-man, yours is just so yesterday!

Verry Funny
Loved the article. I also have fantasies about Ann. Her last book detailing the VAST amount of evidence that disproves Darwinian evolution was excellent. By the way that's why that after 150 years it's still called a theory and not a law.

Society must support what is most beneficial for it's survival. Society needs to promote an ideal we should strive for. To promote a mentally healthy lifestyle that emphasizes marriage and having children is essential. To pretend that being gay is "just as good" or "normal" is not only a lie, but is damaging to society. Homosexuality deserves our sympathy not our acceptance as equal to heterosexuality.

JeffRob
I agree with everything JeffRob wrote at 3:22. There really is a misunderstanding about the rights that gays and lesbians are trying to gain.

Eddie
Feels good.

The real reason
I am writing to today is to thank Mike Adams for once again letting us share in his private obsession, which he has been doing once a week without fail. What we have here is a textbook case of transference, you know, putting the things you don't want to own on other people, so you can bash them instead of yourself.

The closet door is open for anyone with the guts to walk through it, Mike, and the nice part is it will free alot of time and energy to spend on really meaningful issues.


thebigmick
Right on!

JeffRob
Apparently, so does rape to some people. Quite the reasoning process the homosexual advocates possess, don't you think?

eddie
Eddie, you might find this hard to believe but there really is more to being gay than being into anal sex, or even just sex for that matter.

eddie
you'd be hard pressed to find instances of rape where it 'felt good' to both people involved. It's not a good analogy.

ca
I realize that at least some men have sexual attraction to other men. I do not believe in all or even most cases this is something they choose. But, I know equally well that no human being, unless habit has overwhelmed their free will, are compelled to engage in any activity that leads to orgasm. Finally, I think society should encourage human activities that are rational and discourage human activities that are irrational.

Ca
How about bestiality?

Ca
How about necrophilia?

So, you wanna kill my daughter eh?
I may be a bloodthirsty ravenous warmonger with an iron heart and battery acid in my veins, but even I can't condone what you suggested in your article. You know that I have no tolerance for gays, unless it's my lil' girl, cuz she's different. You see, Mrs cheney and I raised her like any god fearing, conservative christian, right wing zealots do, with fear. Fear of those who are different, fear of being anyone other than who we wanted her to be. But most of all fear that she would go to hell if she didn't buck up and ignore those feelings that were welling up from deep inside. After all parents know best right? Anyway, watch your back buddy. 'Cause intolerance can go both ways(unlike my daughter). You and I got to choose to be ignorant republican bigots. And someday we will burn on the stake that you built for my little girl.

Eddie
What about only allowing Christians to marry other Christians? Think of the good for the children!

How about making co-habitation illegal? That would make everything nice and moral!

Ooh! Or how about making adultery punishable by death? That would teach 'em!

Your slippery slope goes both ways, bub.

Ironic
All true Conservatives know how to respect other people regardless of who they are, and more importantly - they know how to keep there mouths shut.

So, where are the true Conservatives??

J

oh and eddie....
My wife still does me and we all know that I've been dead for years.

JeffRob
Although those are legitimate concerns, citing them does not make an irrational act rational. However, I do think adultery and fornication are irrational acts.

reality is....
That no one is really gay or straight. We are all somewhere inbetween. Ever had a homo-erotic dream? ever thought that a man was handsome?(i know i think that edwards guy is a looker) We live in a culture of rights and wrongs(or lefts), of black and white. When in reality what is right for you is wrong for another and what seems pure white could in another light seem grey. The extremes will never unite us, only divide. When will we realize that the answer is co-exsistence with all of humankinds diferences? stop the hating and stop the WAR.

Eddie
I haven't really heard a conservative make the equation between sinful and irrational before. I thought you meant being gay was irrational because we can't pro-create, but if you think other sexual sins are irrational, too, that's a different story.

The "rationale" for not sinning according to the Bible would have to be the salvation offered at the end. The "promise", right? So what if you don't believe in the Bible to begin with? "Sinning" would no longer be irrational to you, because the rationale for not sinning doesn't exist anymore.

So being gay is completely rational to me. I suppose being a Christian is rational to you, too, but it's highly irrational to me. C'est la guerre.

dick
We will never realize that the answer is co-existence with all of humankind's differences because some of the differences are intolerable. For example, people whose differences lead them to assault or batter others, or people whose differences lead them to steal others' property. People whose differences make them want to kill others because they are different.

A Weird Thing occured to me?
If some from the left are called "faggots" then could some from the right be called "maggots"? Ow! That thought hurt my centrist brain cells.

Dick
I don't agree that we're all "somewhere in between", only because I think that takes from our ability to demand equality. I think it makes being gay seem like exactly what they call it- a behavior, that can be chosen or unchosen.

Every straight person understands quite clearly that they wouldn't be able to "just be gay for a day" if they wanted to (gross, right?!), so how the heck do you expect us to do that?! (Gross to me, too!)

Other than that, though, Dick, great post. When we can diminish the influence of those that believe in Absolute Truths, this nation will be much better off.

The "humor impaired"
We do seem to have quite a few of these (see subject title) on here today.

Fact is, anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows that this article was written by Mr. Adams with tongue firmly inserted in cheek, as were Ann Coulter's comments that started this. In both cases they were poking fun at the PC Thought Police this country has saddled itself with, nothing more, nothing less.

For all of our humor impaired gay posters here, as a gay friend of mine is wont to say, "Get over yourself, Mary"...:)

JeffRob
My point was not that irrational and sinful are the same thing. My point was that there is a sound reason for people to engage in heterosexual sex acts. I then asked for the supporters of homosexual sex acts to provide a sound reason for people engaging in those acts. The only response I received was that it feels good.

funny stuff
This is totally hilarious! I'm LOL'ing and LMAO'ing all over myself. Reminds me of a joke I heard in my Neo-Nazi meetup group last week. I'd repeat it, but I'm sure you've already heard it Professor Mike.

eddie
But, I know equally well that no human being, unless habit has overwhelmed their free will, are compelled to engage in any activity that leads to orgasm. Finally, I think society should encourage human activities that are rational and discourage human activities that are irrational.
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If you really feel that orgasms are inherently bad then I guess I can't argue with you because we are looking at sexual activity from totally different points of views. I must say, however, that it's a lot to ask of people to not have sex except for procreative purposes, which seems to be what you are saying.

Regarding bestiality and necrophilia, I could argure how those are bad comparisons to gay sex as well but I'm just not going to go down that road. I doubt that very many conservatives here really equate them with homosexuality either.

Eddie
The fact that it feels good sounds like a sound, rational reason to me. But, since it's not enough for you, here's another. All the non-physical pleasure that a heterosexual would get from copulation, in case you didn't realize, is also available in a gay version (sans the kid, obvs.). You know, intimacy, love, passion for one another. All that good stuff. Rationality galore.

cave bear
It's not that I don't get that Adams was joking, but honestly, comments like "purification of society by the mass murder of gays" is not very funny when we are less that 70 years past a government actually attmepting that. Would you honestly say a similar joke about Jewish people and not expect them to be somewhat offended?

Also, for the most part, the posts here today have been pretty considerate with very little name calling. It's not a bad discussion to have.

Ann Coulter and the Gay Porn Star
Sadly, most of you seem to think this country is a theocracy and are laughing it up at the expense of other citizens. Personally, here’s a jock that I think makes more sense:

"Stop Gay Oppression: Spay or Neuter Evangelical Christians"

Funny, isn't it. If you find this offensive, now you know how it feels to be maligned for who you are.

Also, while you all are playing cheer leaders for Ann Coulter, how about taking a moment and asking her why she appeared at the recent CPAC convention with a gay porn star and gay escort. See: http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2007/03/mcsanchez070309/

Sanchez has had a lengthy career in gay porn, working under the names Rod Majors (NSFW) and Pierre LaBranche, starring in such art films as Jawbreaker, Donkey Dick, and Glory Holes Of Fame 3, where his "11-inch uncut monster **ck" earned him a devoted following. Contrary to his claims, these movies were made much more recently. See: http://tombacchus.blogspot.com/2007/03/dirty-sanchez.html

mike
According to your own link Sanchez did not disclose his gay porn past until last Thursday, AFTER Coulter's appearance at CPAC.

So if the rest of us didn't know about his past why do you presume Coulter knew about it?

Also, your link quotes Sanchez as follows:

"Porn reduces the mind and flattens the soul. I don’t like it. That’s not hypocrisy talking; that’s just experience,” he wrote. “I can tell you, though, that by the time I finished my brief tour of the major studios, I was pretty disgusted with myself. It was an emotional low, and the people who surrounded me were like drug dealers interested only in being with the anesthetized in order not to shake off the stupor of being high."

An objective observer might conclude that (1) Coulter didn't know about Sanchez' past or (2) she was embracing a reformed sinner. On the other hand, no one with even half a brain would conclude from the information in your link that Coulter knowing covorted with gay porn star and then went in front of CPAC and used the word "faggot" without regard to his feelings.

So, do you have some point the objective, logical observer has missed, or is your post just another sloppy, cheap, incompetent personal attack on a conservative that (typically) misses the mark?

As a result of the 'publicity' Sanchez has received he is probably going to be involuntarily discharged from the marines. Liberal hate has apparently destroyed another career; this time a person who the left claims to support, a gay soldier.

You and others of your ilk would do well to remind Mrs. Bill Clinton of this the next time she decries the "politics of personal destruction".

Truly humor impaired
What the Rightist, Adams, does is make the same knock knock joke over and over and over again. I laugh at those who keep laughing at it.

Spay or Neuter Evangelical Christians?
a waste of time; while gays don't reproduce and Stalinists abort; evangelical Christians not only multiply they have been known to experience virginal births.

As for Ann being escorted by gay a porn star it only goes to show Liberals care more about what people say than about what they actually do.

I feel sorry for all these State colleges hoping that their very own in-house tenured freak would turn out to be the next Giordano Bruno.


PC
Where is this PC bs going to stop. Homosexuals took the word for a piece of stove wood (and British slang for a cigarette) and what 'patented' it? They also took over a word for "happy" that happens to be a nickname for many women named Gayle. Your hear about Qu33r eye and how straight guys should dress like Qu33rs but you had better not say the word.

How long are we going to stand for the PC police telling us what words can be in our vocabulary!?!

Oh and you can say that homosexuals don't prey on kids as often as you want to, that doesn't make it true; read the police and hospital reports. (I also personally think that hetrosexuals who molest little boys are actually latent homosexuals.)

ITA with Demosthenes when he writes:

Homosexuality has gone from the love that dare not speak it's name to the love that won't shut the hell up.

Society isn't so much homophobic as homo-hostile to overt displays of homosexuality. Try to understand the difference.

Response to Wise One
Not only did Sanchez appear with Coulter, but he also was given the Jeanne Kirpatrick Academic Freedom Award by the CPAC - obviously, the CPA crowd either did no background check, are hypocrites, or they are simply incompetent (like so many now running the GOP). Any way you cut it, it's not good.

Moreover, wise one, you quote Sanchez who at this point seems to be willing to say anything that a particular audience wants to hear. Talk about flip-flopping. Hopefully, Sanchez gets kicked out of the Marines under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" since he has certainly told on himself via his many gay porn movies, a number of which were made more recently than he is now trying to claim.

P.S. I was once a GOP activist before the GOP was taken over by theocrats and "Kool-aid drinkers," so I am hardly a sreaming liberal.

Paula Jo
Are you under the impression that ALL homosexuals prey on innocent little children?

HOLY MOLY!
District gags 14-year-olds after 'gay' indoctrination
'Confidentiality' promise requires students 'not to tell their parents'

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54683

It's satire, friends!
I'm sure Mike stays up late at night trying to imagine ways to please the Little Richard Lifestyle Club.

Sigh.

"Satire" must one day be added to liberals' vocabulary. They just don't get it.

Thank you...
...to ca and Ralph for the obligatory reference to Nazis that all liberals must make when arguing with conservatives. I only counted two when I posted this, though, and that's below the usual quota. Where's Kimberly when we need her?

...and to other posters that imply that Dr. Adams must be secretly gay. You DID notice that his article anticipated you doing that very thing, right? Ad hominem attacks...gotta love 'em.

As for Ann Coulter...have you seen a full-length photo of her recently? Whenever you're able to spend some time with her, Mike, for heaven's sake, talk her into eating some cheeseburgers and milkshakes!

Allen
The most disgusting thing about you and your kind in general is your nauseating patronizing attitude on behalf of someone (some other group). You've self righteously claimed for yourself the moral authority to lecture any and everyone else as to what is/isn't proper behavior with regard to someone else - the self proclaimed arbiters of human conduct.

You might take a look at your own conduct - in the real world, you wouldn't get away with anything near what you get away with anonymously - I doubt that in too many cases either side would have the patience to endure someone like you - you'd end up with your face smashed.

But in a forum like this, you feel free to taunt, ridicule, and project your self proclaimed and conferred moral authority, fearlessly into everyone's face.

Let me ask you - what in heaven makes you so superior: your self satisfying and aggrandizing feel good liberal attitudes?

Let me tell you what I see in you and your kind: a marauding horde of cowardly incendiaries, torching everything in your path, feeding off the produce of others, dispensing such excess to whomever flatters and pleases you, sustained merely by the satisfaction you obtain in making others cringe before your loud, haughty and repetitious sound bites and slogans. You are filth, a disease, a pestilence on the body politic that needs to be cleansed, treated and survived.

Otherwise, you're nothing.

mike
"Stop Gay Oppression: Spay or Neuter Evangelical Christians"

"Funny, isn't it. If you find this offensive, now you know how it feels to be maligned for who you are."

Yes, mike, since I'm an evangelical Christian, such a statement by you would offend me. But since you have a constitutional right to free speech, and I don't have a constitutional right to live my entire life without ever being offended, I would simply have to suck it up, get over it, and move on.

Hint, hint...

Ok, JeffRob
You say:

"Other than that, though, Dick, great post. When we can diminish the influence of those that believe in Absolute Truths, this nation will be much better off."

Yeah, I guess the more flexible we get on murder, rape/molestation, theft, and all, the nation will be much better off. I suppose there are times when it really is ok to rape or kill because there are no absolutes, just some kinda fuzzy guidlines. Take Matthew Sheppard... you might say "Horrific homophobic hate crime" but I guess we could just look at its "guys out havin' fun, boys will be boys". How about the little girl kidnapped, raped, and murdered in Florida? Horrible crime, or awkward first date?

Typo
its "guys...

Should be "it as 'guys...

Calling John Edwards a faggot is like
calling Ann Coulter a woman - cause she's a MAN baby !! Have you checked out her Adam's apple lately.

Seriously though, its not just the fact that she said the word. Its the reaction that she got and the fact that she went on and on with it. That goes on to show what you conservatives would do. And Mr.Adams if you truly truly think that its just a word then I invite you to go down to your local MLK boulevard around 8 pm. with a sign that says Niggers rot around your neck. If its just words then it shouldn't matter.

The fact is that Ann Coulter knew exactly what she was doing. The latest ratings slump that she is in had to be shaken off due to the upcoming book release which you conservative idiots will go and buy by the hoards.

Roger

Late to the discussion
again because TH has been goofed up, but I'm sick of hearing about how gay people can't do this or that. Since when should any right be granted to anyone on the basis of behavior?

I don't call gay people names. I, like everyone else, don't care what or who they do (so long as the partners are of legal age) in the privacy of their oh-so-sacrosanct bedrooms. I don't care if gays want to hold hands in public-if they're that confident, few will really notice or care, and they'll do it without making a spectacle of themselves. Overt sexual behavior in public is revolting and embarrassing no matter what the sex of those involved; it is rude and shows no respect for others' sensibilities. I do not believe that "gay pride" parades do anything but make what is claimed to be nobody's business everybody's business-and that's the whole point behind them. Talk about narcissistic self-absorption-those parades are simply infantile behaviors writ large. I do care that there is an attempt being made to force the rest of us to approve, even in the privacy of our own minds, that on which we'd rather not have so dang much information.

Here where I live gays can own property and bank accounts jointly, and leave their insurance benefits and estates to each other. My mother did just that to her partner. Fine by me; at least I didn't have to clean up her financial mess. And I sure didn't have any use for the sexually explicit lesbian "literature" and "art" she possessed at the time of her death. I missed not a thing in that bargain.

Jimmy the Saint-Nice catch!

homosexuals prey on innocent children?
I don't know...It sure looks and sounds like the homosexuals can't stay away from our schools and our children...Every where you go you read and hear of a elementary aged 'innocent children' being taught about homosexuals AT SCHOOL, obviously away from their parents and without their permission and sometimes, without their prior knowledge...Plus, parents are not permitted to view the books, documents, etc, and (maybe even sex toys and raunchy vids)...who knows???? Now you got those immoral skunks who make kids sign confidentiality agreements that includes not even telling their parents and not allowing them to opt-out of such debauchery. U wanna be a sodomite, go ahead, be my guest. But keep your filthy lifestyle way from our "innocent" children.

GREAT Points, MIKE!!!
As you noted, TRANNY ANNIE should NOT APOLOGIZE, which would be like admitting that being a FAGGOT is wrong! S/he does NOT APOLOGIZE for being a Pre-Op Transsexual, EVEN THOUGH s/he is in the Republican party! I think it's VERY BRAVE for a 'CHICK WITH A DICK' like ANN to be in an otherwise HOMOPHOBIC party AT ALL! S/HE deserves our ADMIRATION for being so COMFORTABLE with his/her sexual identity! Just as only a black individual can use the 'N' word, only someone is the G/L/B/T community like ANN can 'jokingly' use the word FAGGOT! DON'T COWTOW TO THOSE WHO WOULD CENSOR YOU, ANN, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT!

Roger
If I were a young black man (which I'm not), and I lived in Atlanta (which I do) I *could* go down to MLK boulevard with precisely the same sign you suggested and absolutely nothing would happen to me. I know, because I teach students who wear shirts, ball caps, and hoodies that use the word (and other derivatives of the word ) all the time. Moreover, they call each other the N-word all the time (and not in a nice way). It's so widespread, that we had to stop "writting up students", because a third of the school would be suspeneded on any given day. But I guess it's ok for them to do it, cuz they ain't white right?

Anyway, what ratings slump were you talking about for Coulter. If she were in such a "slump" as you suggest, why was she invited to CPAC. Granted, they might not be inviting her back, but then again...they just might......;)

Sorry ROGER, YOU'RE WRONG!!!
TRANNY ANNIE is NOT A 'MAN. S/he is a WOMAN trapped inside a MAN'S BODY! Being a TRANSSEXUAL is NOT the same as being a MAN. Sure, s/he has male genetalia ('Chicks with Dicks') , but s/he's ALL WOMAN INSIDE! GET IT STRAIGHT, you LIBERAL NUT!!!!

leftismkiller
coulterfan can't help it. Liberal girlie-men like him CANNOT stand it that a woman can out debate him and probably outdo him in many areas. They like their women fat, ugly, redundant, and mouthy whereas Ann is hot, sexy, smart, and can debate a lib to a standstill. She refutes their pablum with ease and turns them and their socialist ideology into a huge joke.

Ann Coulter might be moving to Ohio?
I may have to move a little closer to Akron. :)

GUNNYG
I never said that ANN isn't HOT! I saw him/her on Hannity and Colmes, though, and she IS getting a LITTLE FAT!!!

You are confused, leftismkiller. . .
I was talking to you about the Libby trial. Granted, I was the only one who posted links (since you don't provide any evidence for your 'facts'), but there was NO DISCUSSION about Republican Sex Scandals.

Not that there haven't been a few, though. Like Haggard, and the Page Scandal, and that other Evangelical in CO, and 'Bulldog' Jeff Gannon, and.. . .

Seriously, though, my last post was a little mean. S/HE's not really FAT.. .

What I meant to say is: ANN is beautiful as s/he is, s/he is the HOTTEST SHEMALE out there right now and shouldn't let HIM/HERSELF GET DISCOURAGED and LET HIM/HERSELF GO!

DON'T WORRY, keep taking the HORMONES and they WILL GROW, ANN!

coulterfan
you wrote: "Obviously, S/HE doesn't even know what being GAY means!"

So I take it you're an expert on the subject?


What IS it about this topic?
The posters to this column remind me of zombies in a zombie movie--they just keep coming (no pun intended). We all know that conservatives and Christians must not accept or tolerate homosexuals in any way; this is evident. Also, homosexuals cannot be Christians or conservatives; they're breaking the rules if they think they can.

So, here's what we do. We get somebody to invent a big honking force field barrier (see Robert A. Heinlein's collection "Revolt in 2100" for details) and figure out where to divide the country between the liberals and gays on one side and the Christians and conservatives on the other. Plainly, from most of the comments here, we are just a little bit shy of full blown (again, no pun intended) civil war. Call the division the Coulter-Sullivan Line.

Then all you Christian conservatives can rant until you're even redder in the face than usual, but you won't be able to hurt anyone. We liberals and our gay friends can congratulate ourselves for our moral goodness and be painfully smug as we sip fine wine and watch Broadway shows.

By the way, I still want Mike to take in "300." Man, he would be breathless in about 5 minutes.

youre not funny
you right wingers really can rationalize anything. faggot is offensive. just because youve heard other people saying it doesnt make it right. my black friends call each other niggers all the time but i in no way think i could do the same. i doesnt bother me when im called faggot because name calling doesnt hurt my feelings. to me that person is just showing their ignorance. your 'joke' about what ann should do is sick. it is no way funny. you see, when youre a bigot and you say what you said in your 'article' its just offensive. if jay leno were to give ann the same advice it might be funny. why you say. because jay isnt a hate filled homophobe. hes known to be very gay friendly. you will have to account for your unfunny words when you meet your maker. i hope you have a good explanation and gods in a good mood. you better hope you dont have to follow james dobson or falwell.

Faggot
You hate the fags so much which and that can only mean one thing.

Hi faggot!

What IS it about this topic?
Gestell,

Its about sending all the liberals and homosexuals to live in Iran so they both would leave the American children alone.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That was funny leftismkiller...I doubt there would be any actual takers. However, I do applaud your effort in trying to talk some dumass into it though...:-)

WTF
Why do you all keep offending trangenders by comparing them to Ann Coulter?

Dr. Adams ....
.....Strait or straight?

Kicking Against the Stick
The day that conservatives stop breaking their skulls on the rock of hating homosexuality at all costs is the day conservatives and the nations they control will start winning wars again. Pick your battles, people. You have worse enemies than gays, whose 'lifestyle' is no more a choice than your 'religion'.

leftismkiller
leftismkiller writes: Wednesday, March, 14, 2007 11:05 PM
Advice
To ANYONE that thinks that the "gay rights" movement is the same as the Civil Rights Movement; or to anyone who thinks that calling someone a "faggot" is the same as calling them a "n*gger" I propose the following:

Walk into any meeting of the NAACP or go into any large meeting of black people and explain that you are just like them, that you face the same institutional bias and prejudice they face and that homophobia is the exact same thing as racism toward black people.

Than RUN! FAST!!!

To quote black comedian D.L. Hughley:

"Get the hell outta here. I did not see your gay a$$ on the plantation!"
====================================

This is foolish.

NO one says the actions were the same.

Oppression and using the legislature to remove rights from them is the same.

100 vs. 101
United We Stand. Divided We Are. Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture? How much longer is the U.S. going to keep saying it can win with one hand (the Left) tied behind its back? My guess is 2 more years.

Gays should learn to read
I've been reading "so you want to kill us all, eh?" from the gays posting on this site, and I'm just disgusted. There isn't a single one of the capable of reading.

The whole "global war on fags" thing, and the suggestions that followed, weren't even ABOUT gays, fa cryin' out loud. They were a rip on anti-Western jihadist web sites, using gays in a reductio ad absurdum riff.

Yeah, I think perhaps gays are just a tad bit defensive about their gayness. Ya think?

Funny
So we have here a fourth rate professor at a third rate university trying to be clever.
His university website lists under "Professional Associations" something called the National Association of Scholars, which is not a professional association of criminologists but instead is just a mutual blowjob association for so-called conservatives who hate the fact that lots of people just don't agree with them.
Oh, he also lists NRA as a professional association he belongs to.
Funny, usually professors join associations that have something to do with their field of study.
For instance, math professors belong to the American Mathematical Society.
History professors belong to the American Historical Association, or some other association focusing on their specialty.
But this joker doesn't even belong to the American Society of Criminology.
I wonder why. Maybe he's a crappy criminologist.
I wonder if it's because he's not really scholar, hasn't published anything in his field in years, and in general because he's just a hack.
Just a pathetic little man with his pathetic little Ph.D. from a sad little third rate university. Just a little nobody who can only get published by poorly imitating good irony and satire.
That must be it.
Well, either that or he's really Jonathan Swift reincarnated and any minute now he's going to amaze us with his razor sharp wit and brilliant irony.

I doubt it.

The Right
There is nothing wrong with a nation having a strong, committed right wing. The sad truth is that ours has been co-opted by neo-conservatives who used right wing voters to get elected with no intention of following through on the electorate's wishes. The happy truth is that our country functions best when its government leads from the center. Think about who is running for President, and who you perceive as using your influence vs. looking out for the country. I want you to know, I'm a liberal. I think we can all agree that our country deserves better leadership than we have right now. How do we accomplish this? Vote CENTER! I know it's hard... but WE can do it! Let's make America GREAT again.

"Rational" homosexual behavior
The abject denial of the average homosexual is just as obvious as it can be in the posts here. They've been selling us all the notion that gays are just straights with a binary switch turned the other way, and they've been selling it so long that they're starting to believe it themselves. They've actually convinced themselves that their homosexuality is normal behavior.

The public health statistics for homosexuals demonstrate just how utterly self-destructive homosexual behavior truly is. Things like this:

According to the Centers For Disease Control, 65% of all reported AIDS cases among U.S. males since 1981 have been men engaged in homosexual behavior. (CDC HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report, May 1998)

According to the 1986 Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), homosexuals account for an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of the cases of Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, and G0n0rrhea.

The risk of anal cancer "soars" by nearly 4,000% for men who have sex with men. The rate doubles again for those who are HIV positive. Condoms offer only limited protection. (Between the Lines, "Anal Cancer and You," Sept. 29, 2000.)

Men who engage in sodomy are 860% more likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease (STD), increasing up to 500% their risk of contracting HIV/AIDS.( Centers for Disease Control, "Resurgent Bacterial Sexually Transmitted Disease Among Men Who Have Sex With Men," September 10, 1999)

Women who commit sex acts with other women face a significantly higher risk of bacterial vaginosis, breast cancer and ovarian cancer than heterosexual women. (Medical Institute of Sexual Health, "Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality," 1999)

Anal Human Papillomavirus (HPV) infection is nearly universal among HIV-positive homosexual or bisexual men and about 60% in HIV-negative men exhibiting the same sexual behavior. (Infectious Disease News, "Because of HPV, anal cancer screening indicated for certain high-risk groups," October, 1997)

No, I don't think I can be convinced that this behavior is rational the way ordinary, heterosexual sex is rational. Not without completely ignoring the facts.

United or Divided
Inkling,

What do you want? An America that is comprised completely of a right wing refusal of that which you hate, or an America that can win wars again?

This is your country. What do you want?
Larry.

Homosexual "choice"
The aggressive homosexuals who are posting on this thread make much of the fact that they didn't choose to be attracted to other men. I'm inclined to believe them -- but still insist that homosexuality is most likely learned, rather than inborn, behavior.

I spent many years of my life as an addict, and quite a few years working toward recovery from addiction. During my years as an addict, I would not have believed my behavior was chosen behavior, and in a way, I was right; I became an addict when I was very young, facing stresses no child can handle appropriately, and chose my addictive behaviors as a form of protection. To equate this with the sort of choice a foolish man makes when he chooses to cheat on his wife is just ignorant; one has nothing to do with the other.

And yet, recovery only happened when I took responsibility for my own behavior. No, I couldn't choose what happened to me as a child; but I certainly could choose what I did today. It took time, education, and hard work, but I gradually have become aware of what drove me to behave the way I did, and how to choose to behave differently.

I don't know if homosexuality is a form of sexual addiction; I only know that it looks a whole lot like that. But the evidence suggesting a genetic cause for homosexuality is, frankly, laughable. It's not convincing to anybody but those who have a personal or political interest in being convinced. No objective scientist could look at that evidence and agree that homosexual behavior is not chosen at any level.

The line between "Ha!" and "Hold on..."
This might have been a good column. I mean, mocking the PC is always in vogue. I was with you right up until the end, and then you hit that list. Telling people to murder gays? That crossed a line with me.

I got to thinking about it, and you may have made a rare find. Gays might be the only group that you could have picked to tell thousands of people to go kill and have them laugh instead of be appalled. I mean, if you'd told Ann Coulter (and by extension, your reading public) to distribute videos of black people being lynched as part of an article about how ridiculous affirmative action is, I don't think people would have laughed. Or if you'd told people to bomb muslim cafes as part of an article about the difference between christianity's peace principles and islam's incitation to jihad, people still I think might have rebuked you (after all, good christians turn the other cheek). I'm pretty sure that it says sad things if, even in a column about satire and being PC, you seem to have managed to find the one group that it's still okay to joke about killing. I'm also pretty sure it says sad things that people are more willing to laugh about 'jokes' like this for a movement that's about whether it's moral to love someone (gay rights) than for a movement that's about killing lots and lots of Zionists (jihad). I mean, potentially killing gays just because they're gay is funny. Potentially killing islamists is just because they practice a religion, that's unChristian. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not seeing the humor anywhere.

I'm pretty sure there's a line between humor and bad taste. You crossed it.

Larry Seifarth, Jr.
Are those my only choices? Why? What the HELL are you talking about?

I can't WAIT to hear what absurd, self-congratulatory rationalization lies behind that bizarre dichotemy. Go ahead, Logic Oracle, give it your best shot.

ha!
If you don't have a sense of humor, please go rent one.

He wasn't even TALKING about gays, you damned fool! He was riffing on Jihadist web sites. He could have suggested murdering Catholics, left-handed people, pecan-pie eaters, pony-tail wearers, or any other group; he picked gays because of the out-of-control reaction to Ann Coulter's use of the word "fagg0t."

He didn't cross any line other than your ability to read and comprehend. He did, clearly, cross beyond that line.

Choices
There is an America united, made up of different religions, beliefs, cultures and orientations which can win if it is united in its cause. There is also an America that is divided based on all sorts of idealogical criteria. It makes sense to me that a united America is in all of our best interests. Blasting each other only reduces our effectiveness at fighting our mutual enemies. Our leadership has failed to capitalize on our united strength, opting instead for pitting us against ourselves. If your hate toward lifestyles different from your own has shaped your vote in the past, it might be time to re-think that strategy, given our current situation.

inkling_revival
No no, I do understand that he was mocking things jihadists have said. And he could have chosen any other people group (lefthanded pecan-pie eaters?) and I still would have thought the joke in poor taste. I will confess that I might have found left-handed pecan pie eaters funnier, since jihad actually does think that killing gays is a great idea, and doesn't have a moral stance on pie, so satirizing them with something that... wasn't their actual ideology might have been funnier.

Like I said, still poor taste for me, though. There's a point at which humor just isn't; people's mileage may vary, but mine stopped before that line.

Unity
I'm an American Liberal. That means that, even though I don't agree, if you:

Hate Islam: I'm on your side when it comes to terrorism.

Hate Communism: Never cared for it myself, but who gives a $hit because it's dead anyway.

Hate Homosexuality: Be nice, it's as much a lifestyle choice as fundamentalist Christianity.

Hate Democrats: I used to be Independent. Blame Republicans for screwing up.

Larry Seiferth Jr.
Ok, so this is Opus 9,326,772 of "hating homosexuality is the same as hating blacks, Jews, or any other group."


BAAAAAAPPPP! wrong. Homosexuality is not an inborn trait; it's a chosen, pathological behavior that results in severe public health risks. I'm sorry you don't like that, but it's a fact, albeit one carefully hidden by homosexual activists and their complicit dupes in the American press.

This is not an ideological assessment. It's an assessment based on reading and analyzing scientific data. The behavior of the homosexual community is well-documented, and it is clearly aberrant behavior.

I'm EXTREMELY tolerant of other people's ways of living. I'm extremely INtolerant of lies... and the gay community has been lying to all of about what it is for decades.

Clean up
And, by the way, for everybody on this blog who got satisfaction from using the 'f' word. Please toss your sticky Kleenex in the commode and flush. You're values are pitiful. Although you might get a nice note from Ann, Glenn, and maybe even George. Grow the F up. Just because you can say something, doesn't mean you should - for the sake of your own reputation.

Go figure
I do not wish anyone dead, no matter their error...I do wish they (the sodomites) would leave our innocent children alone (see earlier post with link to WND article)....anyway:

According to a study titled, "The Longevity of Homosexuals," in the Omega Journal of Death and Dying in 1994, the median age of death from AIDS is 37 and death from other causes 42. In another study, "Does Homosexual Activity Shorten Life?" in Psychological Reports in 1998, the average life expectancy of homosexuals is 20 to 30 years LESS than heterosexuals.

Go figure and lilah tob...


leftismkiller
AMEIN! and for real, good night this time...:-)

Funny...
Y'all make me laugh.

All Y'all !

Kathy, Anti-Liberal, et al...
I am a heterosexual male, been happily married (to a woman) for 25+ years. I am far more conservative than most of the people I see commenting on TH, I'm talking truly conservative constituionalist type. However, your phobia concerning homosexuals is really beyond words. Gay people ARE NOT pedophiles. The two sexual deviancies are totally different (they are deviancies, different from the norm). Homosexuals prefer sex partners of thier own sex. Pedophiles seek sex with children. I am sure you can see the difference. Most pedophiles consiser themselves heterosexual, a fact, believe it or not. Come on people, conservatives are supposed to be the thinkers, the logical people. "I hate fags" and "I beat up queers" does not seem thoughtful or logical.

WHY F----T IS AN INSULT
Because the Coultergeist intended it to be. Either John Edwards is a social pariah ( a f-g) or he is emasculated and weak (a f----t). As an insult of the lowest order (name calling and slur) it really hasn't much place in civil discourse. Unless of course your icons are the likes of Dick Cheney who has used the foulest of language in public discourse against Patrick Leahy. And then gone on to shoot his buddy in the face.
For those of you who think you are being sophisticated by expressing your bigotry and incivility disguised as A) Constitutionally protected freedom, or B) a joke so don't take it seriously, review the case of Allen Turing. Were it not for his contribution, you'd likely be slaving away in a Nazi work camp. For his gift to the world, literally saving it from fascism, he was rewarded with a choice of forced medical curative therapy or prison, for a British conviction resulting from his homosexuality. He chose suicide.

reply to Thasic
Well, now you've had your first lesson in what conservatism is really about! I don't think you like what you see, but, as a conservative, you own it. So admit that your political position includes hatred of gays and the urge to do violence to them, and then you will have achieved a suitable level of conservative consciousness. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for you to do it...

reply to kassandrasduplex
You don't really think these folks on TH have heard of Alan (not "Allen") Turing, do you? Certainly the chemical castration inflicted on him comes close to the spirit of most of the posts on this column. Let's just face facts here: Conservatism requires hatred of gays and is compatible with the use of violence against them. Conservatives who don't think this way haven't really matured in their understanding of their own ideology. The true conservative policy toward gays would take the form of a final solution, as many people attest who have posted here.

By the way, here's a webpage devoted to Turing.
http://www.turing.org.uk/turing/

Strawman arguments
"The fact that it feels good sounds like a sound, rational reason to me. But, since it's not enough for you, here's another. All the non-physical pleasure that a heterosexual would get from copulation, in case you didn't realize, is also available in a gay version (sans the kid, obvs.). You know, intimacy, love, passion for one another. All that good stuff. Rationality galore."


Well child molesters and rapists think that their acts feel good so are they rational? Based upon your analogy it would seem so. Just because something may "feel good" doesn't mean its rational it just means it could very well be hedonism.

jeffrob
I've been reading through these posts and I think you are wasting your time. These are not valid concerns you are addressing, they are irrational and misinformed fears that have more to do with the people expressing them than they do any kind of reality.

You should know by now that conservatives are hate-mongering, ignorant, s--- for brains, cro magnons when it comes to this subject and this columnist serves up their weekly meal of gay trash because he knows it's the only way he'll get read, and he thinks it will prevent anyone from knowing how closeted he is.

You seem like a nice guy, you should get another pastime because these rednicks who are convinced you're going to rape their children and make God deliver a flood are not interested in any other point of view but their own, which they hold for reasons having nothing to do with actual homosexuality.

Besides, too many of your words are over 4 letters long, I don't think they can understand you half the time.


Adams
Why don't you just leave the closet and try to come up with something interesting to say, if possible. Maybe you could help salvage TH's reputation as a fluff website.

Rather weird article.
Rather weird article. She was not outing Edwards. She was making the point that it is ridiculous to go to rehab because of the use of a word, except that that is exactly what the Left would do if they had power, I believe. The Left always thinks that the Right are ready to set up concentration camps but that is projection. The Left wants to send us to reeducation camps so we can join the groupthink and act like all the other pea pods representing people who have been snatched. They also want us to pay them for being sent to their reeducation "enlightenment" camps.

Conservatives
You people are totally disgusting. But then so am I.

Ben Moshe and Larry
You are right on. In Massachusetts, the homosexual agenda is being taught in schools and parents have no choice in the matter. A judge has told parents they cannot pull their children out of that class because they disagree with it.

In Illinois, teenagers are being indoctrinated that this is a normal behavior, yet are told that they cannot tell their parents about this class they are forced to take.

The homosexual lobby is pulling out all the stops to indoctrinate our children that this is a normal behavior. It is NOT. It never has been and never will be.

It is a lifestyle choice. In school, we do not force religion on our children, yet the homosexual lobby can come into the schools and demand their lifestyle be taught. Parents rights are quickly eroding in this country and schools are becoming the primary caregiver.

This is why I've homeschooled for 17 years. No government school is going to raise my children when they demand certain things be taught that I do not agree with.

If someone wants to live the homosexual lifestyle, that is their choice. Fine. But don't force it on my children and tell me that I have to accept it as normal. This is not Nazi Germany and I don't have to conform to what you tell me to, personal choice be damned.

humor
Look forward to your next laff riot: How to Gas Jews.

JoJo
Thank you for your kind post. I fear you're completely correct and I should just give up on Townhall.com. The two sides on this page are essentially arguing two different things: their moral absolutism vs. our demand for equality and tolerance.

I'd like to just send a thumbs up back to Ha!'s post at 12:08. He/she made some great points about how the glbt community is the only one left that people can joke about killing without remorse. That's extremely scary; we are all decent Americans here, aren't we?

But I do maintain, and I will until my last day, that we will prevail in this little societal scuffle. Make no mistake, we are at war within our own country. I truly wish we were past all of this, united with the understanding that the basic equality of All Americans trumps any faith-based ideology you could bring to the table. We're far from it, obviously.

I sincerely believe, though, that this is a war we can win. History has shown that even the most conservative foundations of the Christian ideology have swayed and changed when faced with enough public pressure. Pressure and time, time and pressure. Kind of like planets being created over millions of years, something else many of them don't believe. Maybe it's all just too complex and not "here and now" enough.

Anyway, they love to think that what they all believe in 2007 is "The Truth", but the fact is that their own conservative Christian parents' "Truth" most likely stamped "Abomination" on interracial marriages and co-habitation.

Their grandparents' "Truth" believed segregation was God's will (as my grandparents', did, too.)

Their great-grandparents most likely believed the Bible revealed the "Truth" of Black and female inferiority.

So, my point is, that as much as they talk about their "Truths" being constant under God, with enough patience, those "Truths" are more relative, static and wavering than any liberal agenda ever could be.

We will overcome, one day.

Curious
I'm just curious as to why there are separate bathrooms for men and women. Yeah, I know this has been legislated in many cases.

My question is rooted in the whole homosexual/lesbian debate. I mean other than "sex" (the kind you do, not the kind you have) what logical reason is there for men and women to have separate bathrooms. Don't tell me privacy because then it would be mandated that there are physically separate bathrooms at the individual level, not the communal level. It then follows, why do we not have separate bathrooms for homosexuals/lesbians/straight women/straight men?

If I'm a straight man and don't want a woman to share a bathroom with me why is it any different if I don't want a homosexual man to share it with me?

Kathy
Your narrow view of normality is what's disgusting.
When my partner of 5 years and I sit to talk about us, we have nothing more in mind than the love we have cultivated between us, the lives full of adventure and happiness we've created for ourselves, and the family we've made: the two of us, and the cutest gray tabby cat you've ever seen, Selma.

Love, life, and family. What don't you understand?

Well spoken and thought out
"You are right on. In Massachusetts, the homosexual agenda is being taught in schools and parents have no choice in the matter. A judge has told parents they cannot pull their children out of that class because they disagree with it.

In Illinois, teenagers are being indoctrinated that this is a normal behavior, yet are told that they cannot tell their parents about this class they are forced to take.

The homosexual lobby is pulling out all the stops to indoctrinate our children that this is a normal behavior. It is NOT. It never has been and never will be.

It is a lifestyle choice. In school, we do not force religion on our children, yet the homosexual lobby can come into the schools and demand their lifestyle be taught. Parents rights are quickly eroding in this country and schools are becoming the primary caregiver.

This is why I've homeschooled for 17 years. No government school is going to raise my children when they demand certain things be taught that I do not agree with.

If someone wants to live the homosexual lifestyle, that is their choice. Fine. But don't force it on my children and tell me that I have to accept it as normal. This is not Nazi Germany and I don't have to conform to what you tell me to, personal choice be damned."

I couldn't have said it better myself. This by far is the best analogy I've heard yet.

I also home-school for some of the very same reasons you do. I don't want the government indoctrinating my child with secular humanism and all its attributes.

Even when biblical principles was taught in school and yes it was taught, kids had a choice to choose to believe it or not. But the main thing to note is biblical principles were taught in a way that actually taught the children how to read not as something you had to choose to believe.

With the homo-agenda, sex ed class, evolution thats being taught now there is no choice you have to sit through it and if you try to condemn it your kid risks being failed and or thrown out of school. These are being taught as absolutes you have to believe them!

Narrow view is in mdn of beholder
"Your narrow view of normality is what's disgusting.
When my partner of 5 years and I sit to talk about us, we have nothing more in mind than the love we have cultivated between us, the lives full of adventure and happiness we've created for ourselves, and the family we've made: the two of us, and the cutest gray tabby cat you've ever seen, Selma.

Love, life, and family. What don't you understand?"

Your narrow view of that "homosexuality is normal" is narrow. To me its a much greater view to hear a viewpoint then agree or disagree based upon facts.

The primary tension
in this discussion results from the fact that supporters of homosexual sex acts believe the government, society as a whole and individual members of society must learn to believe and support the position that people who engage in homosexual sex acts are engaging in acts that are natural, normal, moral and rational. Those who do not agree with the above do not necessarily believe homosexuals should be persecuted or prosecuted but vehmently disagree that anyone should be forced to listen to, view or be taught that homosexual sex acts are natural, normal, moral or rational. Supporters of the practice of homosexuality want to force other people to believe like them. This sounds very similar to some supporters of Islam.

Please go somewhere else
"Thank you for your kind post. I fear you're completely correct and I should just give up on Townhall.com. The two sides on this page are essentially arguing two different things: their moral absolutism vs. our demand for equality and tolerance."

Your equality argument holds no water...you cant get equality based on the fact your a "special interest group". If this be the case then every special interest group out there would want their own version of equality. You get to pay taxes, get drivers license, get social security, buy a house/car, vote among many others just like everyone else.

As for tolerance, truth be known you don't really tolerate me or my lifestyle either. Your argument simply appeasance under the guise of equality.

The whole tolerance and diversity thing is a joke and a farce in that you can never have complete tolerance and diversity...never


And this is not hate?
"You should know by now that conservatives are hate-mongering, ignorant, s--- for brains, cro magnons when it comes to this subject and this columnist serves up their weekly meal of gay trash because he knows it's the only way he'll get read, and he thinks it will prevent anyone from knowing how closeted he is."

First, and this is not hate? LOL! Secondly, it was previously posted this is kind words? Again LOL!

Tolerance and diversity at its finest!

Straight people are pedophiles too !!!
Kathy Wrote
"Thasic-
Many homosexuals are pedophiles, When I was 10 years old I live in Cailifornia and my girlfreinds mother tryed to get me to have sex with her, I declined and she was in alot of trouble. My next door neighbor is a gay man of his fifties and has young boys hanging around quite a bit of the time, they smoke pot together, A don't know what else they do. But I know people are watching the sitution. "

Kathy,
If only people like you were vigilant and observant when the clergy were playing their games with little kids !!

Roger

Spelling in written articles
One would think that if someone could not spell "straight" instead of "strait" that they would not be much of a writer. I have never seen the English language more misused even in the comments! Get a clue!

Roger
As I stated earlier, "it doesn't matter what a homosexual uses for a cover - priest, scout leader, teacher - they can't be trusted with children" (why there are so many lawsuits against homosexuals masquerading as Priests (of the Roman Church).

Re: Coulter Mania
I am gay and conservative.

When people refer to gays as faggots or blacks as niggers - it says alot more about them than the object of their hatred.

Respect for your fellow man is NOT political correctness - its called civility and dignity. Ann Coulter does not have it and neither do many people posting here.

Here is a news flash to the insecure straight guys who get off on calling gay men faggots and stereotyping them:

I know many gay men who could kick your as* in a New York second.

Come to Manhattan and start using the word faggot and you will see what I mean first hand.

But in all fairness - I should not refer to insecure straight guys as pussies anymore either.

Re: Roger
Roger,

Many heterosexuals are pedophiles. Many heterosexual men are rapists too.

I know a woman who was repeating molested by her step-father. I also know a guy who was repeatedly beat by his heterosexual father.

Are you straight Roger? Then you might be a rapist, child molester, or wife/Child beater.

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with child molestation.

Q: Why are so many of my fellow conservatives stupid?


Re: Eddie
Eddie,

Here is a clue - homosexuality is a sexual orientation that a person is born with. It is biological. The size of the hypothumlus region of the brain stem is larger in straight men than gay men and smaller in straight women than gay women.

Around 5 to 6% of the population is born with an homosexual sexual orientation - it is not a behavior - if a person is born gay, they are gay regardless if they ever engage in sex their entire lives.

Why does the conservative movement attract dumb people?

Look - if you don't understand something or are just ignorant about it - then just admit that fact.

Also - if you have a propensity to hate and vilify people who are different from you - find out why you feel so friggin' threatend.

If some of the poster here are representative of the conservative party members then conservatism in this Country is doomed.

Re: Kathy
Kathy,

We WILL take the Republican party back from you Religious fanatics and Fundies - that is a promise.

BTW - if you want to live in a Theocracy - go move to Iran where religious Clerics run things.

PS
Get a new personality.

Markg
My "narrow view" that my own sexuality is normal and natural isn't a "view" at all. It's MY LIFE.

As for tolerance, the only thing we're not tolerating is intolerance itself.
For pete's sake, we may disagree, but I'm not the one saying that if you don't agree with me you're going to spend eternity in a firey hell. "Thanks, Christianity!"

Stop telling our kids that everyone who they don't see in church on Sunday is sentenced to eternal damnation. That's an extremely dangerous, hate-filled, twisted view of the world. Stop lying to your kids!

Especially your hate- and fear-filled-self, Kathy. After 17 years of home-schooling with you, your kids probably don't understand a damn thing. Watch out for the "college rebellion". In my college experience, the most sheltered kids became the craziest, drunkenest college students. Or are you gonna hold college-level classes in your livingroom, too?

sorry, i misspoke
I guess it was markg that's home-schooled for 17 years, not Kathy. My bad. Same goes, tho.

JeffRob
I also believe things will change. I just read somewhere that according to a large poll the generation of kids who are just about to reach voting age are overwhelmingly pro-gay marriage.
(Although the majority of them are against reproductive choice, so it is not a conservative-liberal thing, apparently.

A short time ago I read a huge, (500-600 pp) book about the history of homosexuality since the first written records. Social acceptance varies and has changed over time in most places as people become more enlightened, but the last public hanging of man for being gay only happened in the 18th century, it was only 500 years or so ago that gays were tortured by having their bodies cut to pieces over a period of 4 days. I know there are people on this thread, like Kathy, who would be thrilled to see these practices revived so her children can be safe but hopefully, they are dwindling away.

I also want to be careful that it is clear that my harsh words aren't meant for everybody posting here; there are many thoughtful and smart comments. But in loyalty to close friends over the years who have lost jobs and homes, or who have ended up in hospitals from broken bones and injuries caused by people like some of the posters here It's the one subject I refuse to be nice about.

Good Luck to you.


Kathy
You are the dumbest person I have read anywhere on this blog.


History Repeats Itself
Your ideas have already been implemented. It was called Nazi Germany. Sad that so little has changed in the last 80 years.

article
Written by a Christio-fascist Crusader for Christio-fascist readers. Hey, it's only a word. Get over it.

No Humor
Dude, thats really messed up....

Awful and really really bad, even as "humor", which it is not at all....

Really messed up.

Correction - also, Anastacia
Gays weren't cut into pieces in Switzerland 500 years ago - I meant to say it was about 500 years before the last European legal lynching took place.

Anastacia you are right about the Nazi persecution; worse things happened there than in either Switzerland or England. I guess I didn't think of it because it has always seemed so aberrant and pathological that it's always seemed like a deviation from the steady course of history.

Maybe that is the wrong way to look at it.

It's still impolite
I can't believe that someone who comes from the rude, aggressive Northeast-yours truly--where we routinely push our grandmothers out of the way at the supermarket, and drop the F-bomb every other word (Tony Soprano is pretty much spot-on), has to point out to a Southerner like Prof. Adams that words like "faggot" are considered inappropriate in polite society, no matter what your political beliefs.

I understand that Coulter did not necessarily mean to impugn Edwards' sexuality, but rather, meant to challenge his manhood, but could she not have done it with more style and wit? Don't we expect, no, deserve that from our pundits? Let the Left talk like middle-school refugees, we should be more grown-up than that.

leftismkiller
I was referring to the original post, cracka.

Why hasn't alqaeda targeted bathhouses?
or the porn industry or hollywood, (wait, that's redundant) or the radical feminists and gays? Are they making a huge miscalculation here? If they stood up to those groups while our current religious and political leaders are rolling over for them then they might make some real headway in America. The question is, do they think Americans overwhelmingly support these things and that they will alienate potential converts? They couldn't be more wrong, people would relish such attacks. Instead they attack decent Americans at work, shopping or at school. One must conclude that there is no desire on their part that any Americans should survive and that there is an inherintly racist element to their desire to destroy us.
Now, for the other postings here, as far as "hate" is concerned, it is FASCIST to tell people they can't hate or express that sentiment verbally. To tell someone they can't hate is to tell someone how to think. To tell someone that they can't teach their children to hate is to tell them they can't teach their children values. Yes, values. Yes, hatred of homosexuality is to some people the same as hatred of an adulterer,a pornographer, a rapist or a filthy bum who urinates and defecates in public. They see the behavior as vile and see anyone who would engage in it as vile. Whether or not gay people agree with those sentiment is irrelevant, they have no business telling others that they must be accepted.And at times hate is the appropriate emmotion, just go see the movie "300", when one of the Spartans sees his warrior son killed he staes that his heart isn't filled with grief it is filled with hate. Yes, you are supposed to hate those who would kill you and take your belongings and rape and make slaves of your wife and children. Yes you are supposed to hate those who try to tear down society or pollute it with effeminacy, weakness, hedonism, and liscentiousness, they are as much a threat to you and your family as the former.

Barabbable
Try as you may, you will never be able to justify your vile indignity.

And I think it's LAUGH OUT LOUD hi-larious that you seem to think the victims of 9/11 were all just decent folk like yourself. No, not a single one of them was gay,a feminist, enjoyed pornagraphy or watched movies made in Hollywood. Not one...

It's also pathetic that you rip Hollywood in one breath, then weepily tell us to go see the movie "300" so we can get a good ole fashion lesson on hatred.

You're pathetic.

leftismal
What a surprise - you're still here blogging about the gays.

Guaranteed he will be posting here all weekend folks (poor mrs. leftismal, how she must long for a man's touch)


One thing is for sure - you are not very good at this.

"brokeback" - "get Aids" I mean, cmon man - that the best you can do? You sound like a poor man's Andrew Dice Clay - how embarressing for you.

HankReardon:
"Some of the so-called conservative pundits are so concerned about the opinions of the left that they become part of the PC Thought Police. Why do they care what these people think? Do they really respect the opinion of people who would vote for someone like Kerry or Edwards? I don’t get it."

Here's what you should get: Conservatives don't need liberals. Liberals don't need conservatives. Both need moderates. Moderates aren't impressed with name-calling. Get it now?


pt 2
I should have said that moderates are not impressed with name-calling that requires an elaborate explanation for it to make any sense at all. I find the whole "PC" thing silly. Conservatives have never been about saying anything you want, no matter how obnoxious. There are other controls on our tongues. PC is really a very minor influence on what we say. A desire to be tasteful and respectful used to be all that was needed to thwart Coulterisms. Why are we jumping on PC here? Coulter was distasteful and disrespectful. That's what got under the skin of some conservatives.

Allen
can you manage any other response aside from collapsing into a hysterical "f**". What's it like to be so weak and emmotional. Look, many people find you objectionable because of your sexual activites, some object so strongly it is revulsion or hate that they feel for you, in the words of the "gay" rights movement-GET OVER IT!

Allen:
Way to go in demolishing Barabbabarino's lack of WTC logic!

Barbarella: You'll probably laugh, but there's a real problem if your words reflect your actual state of being. I know that there are some kids on here that like to say the most hideous things they can think of because they know adults would never put up with hearing it from their lips, but if you are an adult, I suggest you check your anger. Nothing good will ever come from so much venom.

Thanks Coulterfan !
"Sorry ROGER, YOU'RE WRONG!!!
TRANNY ANNIE is NOT A 'MAN. S/he is a WOMAN trapped inside a MAN'S BODY! Being a TRANSSEXUAL is NOT the same as being a MAN. Sure, s/he has male genetalia ('Chicks with Dicks') , but s/he's ALL WOMAN INSIDE! GET IT STRAIGHT, you LIBERAL NUT!!!! "

Thanks for the display that putting your thoughts in all caps is proving your point.Do you not see the irony in someone being a man - then admitting that he is attracted to a man and then lashing out against homosexuals ? You conservative idiots - you ruled by fear so far but now your game is up. Even your mascots like Coulter and Savage and O Reilly are crumbling !!!
Just you wait till Obama wins the White House.

Roger

video killed the radio star
and the internet will kill the "gay" rights movement. Why? Because it was a deliberate strategy of that movement that only those who were "presentable", in other words straight acting and appearing and PLEASANT would ever be presented in print or on video or film. This was possible after they infiltrated the media. BUT they never took into account that a phenomenon called the "internet" would develop. They have no controll on who can post here or elsewhere and they have no controll of the huge number of gay sex sites that anybody can drop in on to see what they are REALLY like. Staight acting and pleasant? What we get on here is a clear picture of just the opposite. I'm sorry, but Allen would have been muzzled in the old days. NEVER would they let any spokesmen for the gay movement even come close to saying that not everyone who died on 9/11 was a saint-therefore giving the impression that he believes they deserved what they got.Never would they let someone speak who was emmotional and hateful instead of calm and clear headed. NEVER would they let gay men present themselves like they do on "manhunt.net", never would they let the public see that there are in fact NO monogamous gay relationships but an abundance of couples seeking a third, fourth or fifth for all sorts of activities that include things you would never even immagine. No, you won't see anybody who reminds you of someone on the Ivory Soap ad, but that is all they would ever allow to be seen when they could keep a lid on things. Allen would have been told to shut up, let them handle it and go hit the local cruising area.

Roger
"Do you not see the irony in someone being a man - then admitting that he is attracted to a man and then lashing out against homosexuality?"

Are we talking about Mike S.Adams again?

Leftism
"Don't pay him too much mind. Just laugh atthe overall irony of someone who likes to plug other dudes in the keister calling someone else vile. "

Are we talking about Mike S.Adams again?

Absolutely right
Barabbaberry, you are absolutely right. There was a very deliberate strategy to present only those gay people who were "straight acting" and "pleasant." They thought about only selecting the unsavory, but then thought that wouldn't be very smart. It kills me that some get the ah-ha!s when they uncover someone or some group doing something smart. Of course the ah-ha part is because they think being smart is evidence of an agenda. Why would any group want to put the worst of the lot in front of people? The gay rights movement got the ball rolling, but quite frankly they tend to get more in the way these days. Attitudes have changed not because people were threatened into changing. Most of us who used to believe that the sterotypical gay man was representative of the group learned the truth by meeting the "straight acting" members of the community. As time goes on, many are learning that the sterotype became the stereotype only because these were the only visible gays.

JeffRob
I have 2 kids who "survived" college. And these are secular colleges, not private.

We did not sequester our kids, which is a huge misnomer regarding homeschooling. They were not sheltered, and have grown up to be responsible, well adjusted adults.

We had our kids watch the tv show "Cops" when they were young so they could see first hand what a drunk looks like. They saw what drug addicts look like after years of addiction. They saw prostitutes, spousal abuse, you name it. They know the difference between right and wrong.

My husband is also a law enforcement chaplain. They saw their dad tell our next door neighbor that his wife was killed by a drunk driver. Their best friends were left without a mom. They have made the choice not to drink because of what they have experienced first hand. Binge drinking has never held any interest for them.

My oldest is a theatre arts major. She is a strong committed Christian. She has experienced a lot of prejudice from this community because of her beliefs. She is often ostrasized and made fun of. The main culprits? Yes....liberals and homosexuals. Yet she still has a passion for live theatre and tries not to let the prejudice she experiences ruin her outlook. She's not always successful. And the funny thing is that one of her staunchest supporters is a homosexual guy because he understands that talent, commitment and passion are what is important in the theatre - not political wrangling. He is also made fun of because he sticks up for her.

You see, tolerance goes both ways.

leftismal, barrababbler
The only response you strange fellas can ever seem to come up with after I casually shred you is exhasperated name-calling and Aids jokes.

Guess that's what happens when you get b*tch slapped on a blog by a gay guy

"oohh, Allen is an big bad internet bullllyyyy"

Yeah I'd gladly b*tch slap either one of you in person, do it with a smile and smack around your dumb wives for good measure.

(don't cry, leftismal - you should be used to this by now)

:)

Another fine example...
"As for tolerance, the only thing we're not tolerating is intolerance itself.
For pete's sake, we may disagree, but I'm not the one saying that if you don't agree with me you're going to spend eternity in a firey hell. "Thanks, Christianity!"

Stop telling our kids that everyone who they don't see in church on Sunday is sentenced to eternal damnation. That's an extremely dangerous, hate-filled, twisted view of the world. Stop lying to your kids!"

No you just simply say that homosexual feelings are rational because it feels good...which by the way you never addressed the fact that a child molester and/or rapist that uses the same argument about rationality is this okay?

As for the religion thing just like you believe that homosexuality is inborn/genetic and appropriate, I happen to believe what the Bible teaches about homosexuality and "all" other forms of sin. That is all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. That includes myself. I'm no better than you and I don't think I'm better than you. But Jesus Christ died that we might have life and more abundantly.

As for me telling people they are sentenced to eternal damnation...well God is the one that tells us this...By the same token I could very well tell you stop telling people that homosexuality is normal.

For the record I've only home-schooled for 5 years but I wouldnt have it any other way.

We are all indoctrinated with something and in this case I dont want my child indoctrinated with secular humanism....Secular humanism(which is nothing more than glorified Hellenistic Greek culture) is the exact reason why were in the shape were in right now as a nation. Our founders are rolling over in their graves!

If understanding is
"Especially your hate- and fear-filled-self, Kathy. After 17 years of home-schooling with you, your kids probably don't understand a damn thing. Watch out for the "college rebellion". In my college experience, the most sheltered kids became the craziest, drunkenest college students. Or are you gonna hold college-level classes in your livingroom, too?"

by your definition that moral relativism trumps all other logic well then I'm guilty as charged.

BTW, my question about child molesters and rapists was never answered. If they think what they do feels good it must be rational therefore under guise of rational moral relativism it must be okay. Matter of fact they should petition Congress as a special rights group because they dont have equality.

leftismal
"They gay guy wakes up and pulls the butt plug out of his mouth???"

gee your dumb.

And if I ever happen to grace Charlotte NC with my fabulous presence - I will certainly be on the look-out for a homely (and probably obese) woman and her zit faced little hubby and give you both the b*tch-slap you deserve.

Not all gay guys are nancy men. Travel to Chelsea New york and start calling people faggots - I know drag queens there that could easily kick your whimpy arse without so much as losing a lee press-on.

Homosexuals and their liberal minions
Homosexuals and their faithful, liberal minions are following in detail the map found in the book "After the Ball". This 1989 rancid work of trash explains the way to gain momentum for their sodomite movement is to divert attention away from the filthy acts of their habitual perversion. The concept is to play the victim and in the process, gain approval of the masses by staking claim that their putrid lifestyle is a civil-rights issue. I can already see the pig and sheep lovers lining up to play the civil-rights card one day too. After all, if you're going to make homosexuality a civil-rights issue then you may as well grant the civil right for bestiality.

But why even stop there? You may as well make child molestation a civil right. How happy would the perverted pedophiles be? What about rape? The serial rapist would…well, you get the picture. One thing is for sure, the sodomites don’t like it when we conservatives “push” back, so that’s why they get so defensive and irate when we want to protect our children from their wicked (wicked is not used as slang here) grasp. And WE WILL PUSH BACK!

They use the public education system to recruit the impressionable five to 18 year olds, using “diversity teaching” as their cover. Again, the best place for sodomites is deep in the heart of Iran, but please don’t go alone…take those blind, faithful, g-dless, liberal minions with you!

NEWSFLASH!!!
Principal bans parents from pro-'gay' seminar
Public district students offered guidance on being homosexual

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54708

Start lobbying your legislature now, and PUSH BACK the evil sodomites....Protect your children!

One more thing!
Take HILLARY with you when you go to Iran!


Allen
I sure can work a computer AND paste a weblink, but I must admit, you will always have the upperhand on knowing how to "work" things; cause there's a few things I would never try...and your end comment to Kathy, as for Praising Jesus, if you're a homosexual, praise all you want, he doesn't listen unless you repent and turn from your evil ways....