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Wednesday, April 09, 2008
Michelle Malkin :: Townhall.com Columnist
Absolut's Left-Wing Liquor
by Michelle Malkin
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Is it wise for a global beverage company to pander to radical politics while alienating a much wider consumer base?

Absolut, the Swedish-owned vodka maker, apparently drinks to that. Last week, my e-mailbox lit up with messages from readers and fellow bloggers about a new Absolut ad catering to Mexican drinkers who believe the American Southwest belongs to them. (That extreme ethno-supremacist idea, of course, is not news to anyone who has paid attention to the massive illegal alien marches of the past two years -- where "This is our continent, not yours" has been a rallying mainstay.) As part of its "In an Absolut World" campaign in print magazines and on billboards, the company featured a large color photo of a redrawn map of the continental United States. The ad imposed pre-1848 borders on America, with Mexico swallowing up California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado and Arizona.

Here's how Favio Ucedo, creative director of leading U.S. Latino advertising agency Grupo Gallegos, which was not involved in the Absolut campaign, explained the reconquista-endorsing ad to the Los Angeles Times: "Mexicans talk about how the Americans stole their land, so this is their way of reclaiming it. It's very relevant and the Mexicans will love the idea."

Oops. Guess he didn't get the liberal talking points manual: You're supposed to deny that reconquista exists and label anyone who criticizes it as a delusional racist. And remember: The National Council of La Raza ("the race") claims that reconquista is just a "code word" invented by conservative "hate groups" who are dreaming the whole thing up.

Reader Paul Hergert wrote to Absolut: "Your company's illustration of Mexico occupying a large part of the western United States is reprehensible for myriad reasons. Not only is it an anachronistic and ersatz view of geography, it also unnecessarily inflames American/Mexican tensions. I understand that marketing is to be provocative, but when it can be used as propaganda for certain people/nations, it has crossed the line into the political realm and is, therefore, inappropriate."

Bar owner Matthew Rogers of Pt. Richmond, Calif., sent this note to the company: "I run a bar in Pt. Richmond. … After seeing your ad campaign where you show a western map of the United States in which California is part of Mexico again, I've decided to do the following: 1) Never carry Absolut. Ever; 2) Lower the price of Ketel One vodka to $2 a shot indefinitely to build loyalty; 3) Print a copy of your ad and put it above the Ketel One drink special; 4) Tell all my friends and family what Absolut thinks of the United States of America and our right to enforce border laws. I am on the frontline of illegal immigration and its effects. Where are you? Oh, yes, Sweden. Good riddance."

Absolut's initial response to complaints was to hang up on consumers who phoned and to delete their e-mail without bothering to read it. But the controversy spread like a California wildfire stoked by Internet Santa Ana winds. In the first of two statements, Absolut Vice President of Corporate Communications Paula Eriksson attempted to douse the flames by touting the company's embrace-diversity ethos. "As a global company," she pedantically intoned, "we recognize that people in different parts of the world may lend different perspectives or interpret our ads in a different way than was intended in that market. Obviously, this ad was run in Mexico, and not the U.S. -- that ad might have been very different."

That arrogant, p.c. sanctimony had the effect of pouring gas on the flames. So over the weekend, Eriksson issued a new statement announcing withdrawal of the ad. It was comically titled "We apologize" -- and disingenuously argued that "In no way was the ad meant to offend or disparage, or advocate an altering of borders, lend support to any anti-American sentiment, or to reflect immigration issues. …This is a genuine and sincere apology."

For its part, the open-borders Associated Press attempted to minimize the widespread opposition to the Absolut ad from Americans and persisted in labeling reconquista views "fringe." I direct them to the speech given two weeks ago in San Bernardino by Hillary Clinton campaign co-chair Dolores Huerta, who railed, "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us" and gloated that immigration enforcement is moot because the reconquista is won. "It's really too late," Huerta said. "If 47 million (Latinos) have one baby each … it's already won."

Maybe Absolut should hire Huerta as its next spokesperson.

Fresh off its Aztlan debacle, the company announced its newest campaign this week featuring an ad titled "Ruler," described as "a humorous look at gay men and their fascination with perfect, eight-inch 'member' measurements."

The company doesn't seem to have grasped that left-wing identity politics and liquor don't mix.

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Michelle Malkin makes news and waves with a unique combination of investigative journalism and incisive commentary. She is the author of Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild .

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It Looked Pretty Funny To Me...
...But I suppose that Absolut should stick to advertising that features scantily-clad women rather than fanning the flames of hatred.

Bronwyn Lance Chester,
an editorial writer at The Virginian-Pilot, stated in November 2004 when the newpaper dropped Malikin's column that Malkin "habitually mistakes shrill for thought-provoking and substitutes screaming for discussion. She's an asian Ann Coulter... She's the worst of what's wrong with punditry today. She adds absolutely nothing to genuine political discourse."

Fox News Channel contributer Geraldo Rivera told the Boston Globe, "Michelle Malkin is the most vile, hateful commentator i've ever met in my life. She actually believes that neighbors should start snitching out neighbors, and we should be deporting people. It's good she's in D.C. and I'm in NY. I'd spit on her if I saw her."

Malkin attended Holy Spirit High School in New Jersey. As of 2004, her husband, Jesse, stays home and raises the two Malkin children.

Geraldo Rivera . . .
. . . is an unapologetic supporter of the whole "open borders" insanity and has long taken the side of the illegals on the issue of immigration. So he has a vested interest in dumping on Ms. Malkin. As for Lance Chester . . . I'm pretty certain he's another typical P.C. left-wing hack that has long infested the "MSM."

Well, Robert and Kimberly
Are you two, like, dating, or something?

Both of you have utterly nothing to say, but feel the need -- nay, the compulsion -- to say it.

Plus, you need to let everybody know you don't like the columnist. Ok, we get that, you don't like the columnist. In this case, it's Michelle Malkin, but of course there are plenty of other columnists where you can show up, not even read the piece, and let everybody know that you don't like the columnist.

Ok, ok, ok, we got you already.

You know, it is not necessary for you to agree with the columnist. It is not necessary for you to agree with any of the columnist's fans.

But if you're going to contribute to the discussion -- CONTRIBUTE to the discussion.

Unca Alby, your statement
"Both of you have utterly nothing to say, but feel the need -- nay, the compulsion -- to say it" could apply to will's post as well. Why 'will' feels the need to tear down Michelle Malkin, someone he most likely has never met, as well as take a dig at the husband/kids is just plain catty.

It is pathetic when posters are unable to formulate any argument for or against the information in the column and instead just attack the columnist (it reveals a certain level of maturity as well.)

It Was Such A Good Idea
This advertising campaign must have sounded so perfect. It was a chance for a European company to do as their politicians do and heep some dung on America. I mean, why should the politicians get all the applause for speaking out against the evil United States?

Then reality hit. They didn't recognize it at first, but all of a sudden their biggest, most lucrative market was in jeopardy of going up in smoke. Forever. So with the threat of losing massive amounts of dollars they finally issue the pathetic "please forgive us; we're really sorry" statement.

It speaks volumes that not even one person at Absolut thought this could possibly offend Americans.

Thanks Michelle for giving this some publicity. As for Geraldo's comments about you, I cannot imagine a brighter badge of honor than to have Geraldo think I'm such an evil person. It must really be hard for him to hear someone like you speak the truth about immigration.

Hey Mexico
The only time the border is still there, is after at least five shots of Absolut Vodka. :)

Insanity
Absolute has now joined Miller in the list of manufacturers/vendors that I will never patronize. Normally I don’t go for high priced vodka anyway because it is primarily a mixing liquor and it is insane to pay for high priced liquor that you are going to mix.

I guess Absolute has to get into this kind of petty America bashing because they haven’t had any kind of recognition since Gustavus Adolphus was king of Sweden and you can only take manufacture of razor blades so far.

And finally, I can never understand any company or artist who depends on the sale of their product to the public and who then takes a stand on a controversial political question that is guaranteed to alienate a large portion of their customers. It is “Absolute” insanity. As one executive I know said once when explaining why employees were encouraged not to speak to the press, “We a a company spend several million dollars a year in public relations and advertising. All of that can be undone in a moment with one careless comment.” Here we have the advertising agency releasing an ad guaranteed to undermind millions of dollars worth of ads to other groups.

Once again the village idiot
NO, make that the Village RETARD, Wobbie, proves thru his inane and racist post that he didn't even read what Michelle wrote.
The message was about an offensive ad campaign for Swedish Vodka, not an attack on immigrants you horsesass.

He just wanted to get in his weekly "Anchor Baby/Anchor Babe" crack at Michelle then run off to "help freedom ring/reign/whatever."

We all know what he really does after he shows the world what a worthless pervert he is so why doesn't he just admit to it.

Better yet, why doesn't he just recognize that he's not wanted here and go away?

BTW Michelle,
GREAT article. I don't drink any type of liquor but I sure will make it a point to discourage everyone I know from EVER buying Absolut Vodka again.

Cough*amateur*cough
Malkin wrote: "But the controversy spread like a California wildfire stoked by Internet Santa Ana winds."

What is she? A high school sophomore taking her first crack at "creative" writing?

I guess anyone who can write something worth a damn wouldn't be caught dead doing so for Townhall.

Some of these comments make me weep....
I'd like to see Absolut bottles spilled into the gutters, as they did with French wines at start of the Iraq war. Do you think the liberal press would cover that?


Vic
"I guess Absolute has to get into this kind of petty America bashing because they haven’t had any kind of recognition since Gustavus Adolphus was king of Sweden and you can only take manufacture of razor blades so far."

Volvos are nice, too.

The Vodka-Inspired Ad
I hope the ad agency that developed the Absolut ad was fired because it was probably the dumbest thing ever created by Madison Avenue types. And the executives at the company who approved the ad also should be fired. The incompetence illustrated by this episode just boggles the mind--even after a couple shots of vodka.

Volvo...
was recently bought by -- wait for it -- Ford.

Absolut BS
Yeah, this is the final straw. The Swedes are now
public enemy number 1!! I can't believe they could do such a thing. I'll never even look at a Volvo or a Saab again. Forget their meatballs, too. I will now refuse to acknowledge anyone with blonde hair, blue eyes and is over six feet tall. I will trash all my "Erik the Red was here first" t-shirts. In fact screw all of Scandanavia since I'm too stupid to differentiate between Norway, Sweden and Denmark.
The Minnesota football team must now change it's name to some other pillaging people of the past.

But if the reconquista does begin because of this horrible slight by Absolut (oops, I mentioned them by name, damn!) Could they start with Texas?

Moonbattery
Of all the moonbattery here, I have yet to read a post where a neo-lib defends the ad. Only more ad hominem attacks from the "enlightened" ones. Instead of having an original thought on an issue, neo-libs attempt to discredit the messenger with vile, putrescent, and juvenile name calling.

BTW, for the moonbat that called Michelle an Asian Ann Coulter, on Michelle's behalf, I thank you for such a compliment.

Sheeple
The reconquista is no more offensive than these tired old folks populating TH and talking about taking up arms and fighting a new revolution - we all know that is a damp, teenage-style fantasy feeding the failed lives of tired old white folks. Personally, I am so glad we are finally opening up the gene pool. From what I have seen in here, it is very shallow now.

But this blog will keep all you bigots going - it has immigrants AND gays LMAO

CC
Why does this ad need to be defended by anyone?
Take it or leave it. Buy or don't buy. It's Capitalism. The whole article (and MM) is an ad hominem attack on Absolut drinkers. Wait till the Dutch do something and no one will buy Kettel one.

GOOD ONE!
Absolut screwed the pooch and opened the door for American distilled vodka like Tito's. Thanks again frogs for showing how dumb you are.

That said, swing by the ANTI-LIBERAL Zone for a serious essay on the greatness of America. Tell your friends.

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com

If it's good for liberals, it's BAD for America.


Hal Drunkahue
Hitting the sauce early huh?

Yeah, Mexico sure is a world leader. They have it all, land, ocean access, plenty of resources, and can only muster a tired old drug-ridden, crime-ridden, corrupt culture that they are exporting here thanks to idiots like you. A polluted third-world nation just south of San Diego and you think it's wonderful.

Does it hurt when you think? Is that why you hit the bottle this early?

Seek help, preferably the psych ward.


Hal Drunkahue
BTW, you never answered my question a few week ago.

You worked for Hanoi John on his campaign. You're proud of it. Yeah, he betrayed the Vietnam POW/MIA's...

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0408,schanberg,51276,1.htm l

and you don't have a problem with that. What a sh*tty officer you must have been. The AF was probably about 20+ years LATE in surveying you like dirty linen.

GunnyG
"Yeah, Mexico sure is a world leader. They have it all, land, ocean access, plenty of resources, and can only muster a tired old drug-ridden, crime-ridden, corrupt culture that they are exporting here thanks to idiots like you."

See you tired old mercenary, I never said a word about that did I? I said here is a typical rightwing idiot trying to make a big deal about reconquista and of course ignoring the rightwing NRA fantasy folks LOL. Neither matters at all

"A polluted third-world nation just south of San Diego and you think it's wonderful "

Did I say a word about Mexico? I was talking about here. But you appear to be a poster child for our shallow gene pool. It can't hurt to mix it up a bit can it? Isn't that what really made America great? Oh by the way take a close look at the make up of the real soldiers around you not the silly mercs. Tell me what you see...

The funniest line
The funniest line in this whole debacle is "In no way was the ad meant to offend or disparage, or advocate an altering of borders, lend support to any anti-American sentiment, or to reflect immigration issues."

I've seen the ad. I'd like to know what was intended if not to offend Americans, advocate altering borders, and lend support to anti-American sentiment. Does anyone think that if the ad were reversed, and it showed a map with US borders stretching up well into Canada and down well into Mexico that no one in those countries would be offended? And if they did that is there any doubt that Absolut would be called racist and would be boycotted to bankruptcy?

Here's an idea for an ad, let's market it to germans by showing the German borders stretching from France to halfway through Poland, and maybe up into Denmark and the Benelux nations. Or maybe market to Italy showing Italian borders covering southern Europe, North Africa (throw in Ethiopia to boot), and the Middle East. Or how about marketing to Russia by putting their borders around the old Soviet Union and the entire Eastern Bloc (which were essentially suburbs of Russia during the Cold War, anyway.)

FD
I see you are here spitting your vile too.

Hal Drunkahue
I seee you been tipping the Absolut bottle already this morning! Easy, boy, Its early!

GunnyG/Primus54
morning gents! I see that Mr. Drunkahue is up early today! I know an old man that starts to drink early in the morning, and he sounds just like the Doofus!

Must be a liberal
For its part, the open-borders Associated Press attempted to minimize the widespread opposition to the Absolut ad from Americans and persisted in labeling reconquista views "fringe." I direct them to the speech given two weeks ago in San Bernardino by Hillary Clinton campaign co-chair Dolores Huerta, who railed, "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us" and gloated that immigration enforcement is moot because the reconquista is won. "It's really too late," Huerta said. "If 47 million (Latinos) have one baby each … it's already won."

You must be a liberal if you believe re-conquesta is a myth but global warming is a real threat. As of geraldo rivera did he ever find Al Capone's lost treasure yet? With his Pancho Villa mustache he sees himself as the next generalisimo. Hey Hal why dont you fly for the Mexican AF if you love them so much.


Hal Drunkahue
You write: "It can't hurt to mix it up a bit can it?"

This shows the shallowness of your thinking. Mexico is number in kidnappings behind Columbia and in other violent crime areas like rape, murder and illicit drugs, they are in the top ten and with a fraction of our population!

Here in America, an illegal drunk driver kills an American every 13 MINUTES and they commit 12 murders a DAY! (CNS NEWS).

In Mexifornia, they have managed to suck down BILLIONS in health benefits that they do not rate and clog ER's and free clinics meant to treat AMERICAN citizens.

So in closing, you pompous, arrogant, and bloated windbag, it DOES HURT us to "mix it up."

Maybe these illegals should "mix it up" in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'll be waiting for your answer on Hanoi John and the POW/MIA's.

Stats from: http://www.nationmaster.com

SSGT
Yeah, his spelling and grammar will look like a three year old's by noon EST! As usual, him and his alter ego, Rockhead J. Squirrel have empty magazines in a battle of wits.

Hal noname
Sure Hallyboy mix up the gene pool. It don't matter to ya does it...in fact nothing really matters to you except trashing the country that has given you everything you have. It seems to give you a sense of importance. Apparantly you cannot accomplish anything anywhere else. Just keep LYAO. Maybe if you laugh hard and long enough you will just disappear since you are all A$* anyway. We will keep feeding yo material to keep you laughing.

This goes to show...
... that alcohol companies should not sample their product when writing their ad campaigns.

Naturally...
The bats are dropping their guano and calling Michele an anchor baby. What a surprise! NOT. FYI for those of you who are relatively new...Monkey Girl, aka Kimberly is just like Robert and Hal. They hate all columns by Limbaugh, Ollie, Ann, and Michele. Their BDS is completely evident to all, coupled with the Triple-L Syndrome.
They have twisted the facts to meet their version of reality and it will only get worse as the elections near. Beware and carry a barf bag, bucket or trashcan to relieve yourselves when viewing the spew.

And now...
Michele is right on the money. The bats hate it when she's right. Facts make them say stupid things.
Those who care about this Country will take that sheisse off of their bar shelves...I flushed mine already.

UncleB
Great post. HalD's just a bitter old geezer angry at the world for getting passed-over for Colonel. And like a whiny-lib, he can't come to grips with the fact that HIS BEHAVOIR dictated the AF's actions. Just typical libscum thinking going on in HalD's tiny brain housing group.

GunnyG
be careful about the numbers you post. Since Drunkahue will be seeing double pretty soon, he will claim that you distorted them. LMAO!!

Mike Adams has Will, Ms. Malkin has...
Robert. These Stalking Bloggers, shall we call them stoggers?, need to be tracked down and investigated by the police.

See, Will can't seem to post to an Adams column with mentioning his homosexuality. Roberto, who like Will with Adams, just HAS to be one of the first posters and ALWAYS brings up his faux anchor baby mantra.

I guess he somehow thinks this validates his existence. Robert, no, it doesn't. Sorry, chap. So far, I've never read one comment from you that validates your existence. Unless of course you were going for pathetic. In that case, you've nailed it!

Happy Jake
Already done (the map, that is) Gunny G posted both maps Sunday. I plan to have them made into posters and distribute to all the local bars, suggest everyone do the same. You don't mind, do you Gunny?

Yo FROG
I like it!!! The stoggers are staggering this morning!
Mornin Gunny. Hallyboy aint recovered from h is laughing fit yet to spew more.

SSGT
Yep, when the facts and logic come out, Hal Drunkahue beats feet faster than Bubba Clinton at a convention of fat ugly interns.

Bad taste
The ad was in bad taste given world conditions at

this moment. Fortunately,for Michelle,it's more

fuel for the "Left-wing-fire" as much often is.

An angry young woman comes through all of her

writings...angry and jaded.Ann Coulter is more of

a "hot dog" in her performances than Michelle who

actually sounds sincere.Sadly she believes what

she writes.Happily,we all have choices in the

vodka we buy and the articles we read. I find all

opinions fascinating and love to hear what folks

think...may not agree with content,but respect

your right to share it,in a free country,through

a free press.

Wanna bet
Bronwyn Lance Chester is gay?

Fd
FD writes -I guess anyone who can write something worth a damn wouldn't be caught dead doing so for Townhall.

And yet you take time out of your day to read the stuff on T.H

Its not hard to figure out what FD stands for.

That old saying
Absolut vodka corrupts absolutely

the limp left
on schedule the limp left again attacks the messenger. But what else is new in their worm's eye view of life. They bring nothing new to the conversation but rattle on with the same old nonsense. The sage of scranton must be on absolut's payroll as well as huffpuff. But since he lives in the part of the country that looks like a third world country anyhow with similar prospects perhaps that's why he likes la raza and it's efforts/ How utterly pathetic he remains

FD
Fu@^!ng Dumb.

UncleB
Morning. Guess our mission in life is slapping the "stoggers" off of the board like fleas off of a dog's back. But then again, liberals are well-versed in being parasites and clinging to their host. Someone get the Kwell!

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!

Everyone tossing about talking points.


Robert ..anchor baby

Apollo...his Reagan spiel.

Will...critcizing the messenger.

I saw it as an article exposing the stupidity of an international company tailoring an ad to play on one group's grievances against another to sell their product thinking the second group would never see the ad. How naive!

What next for them? Jews vs Arabs? North vs South?

bostguy112, tell me, what did you ...
come up with? Here's mine:
Friggin Dope (feel free to change friggin!)
Foolish Picklebread (figure it out)
Freakishly Dumb
Frequently Dooped
Fat Dumbo

What have you got?

If you've never heard Gallagher ...
here's his joke:
"How do you make picklebread. Will dill dough."

wildwest
EXCELLENT POST!

The sage of Scranton...

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

If Hal Drunkahue is the best Scranton can put forth, they're screwed.

Frog
You dont want me going down that road, lol

More spelling errors
not will but with.

Oh no, did I just give Will fuel by ...
writing his pseudonym in the same sentence as dill dough? *shudder* I'm so sorry fellow conservatives. I hope you can forgive me.

Good Morning all
Has anyone filed a missing persons report on TR?

HD and Wobbie are great but, TR was an intellectual giant next to them.

Absolut big mistake.
I find it hard to believe that any American, being aware of this ad campaign, could continue to buy Abso. Vodka. The ad is an insult to American sovereignity. It may be that "In no way was the ad meant to offend or disparage, or advocate an altering of borders, lend support to any anti-American sentiment, or to reflect immigration issues", (the ad was, of course, intended to sell vodka to tequila drinkers) but anyone with half an ounce of working braincells should have realized the consequences.

I wonder how the liberals in CA etc would feel if Mexico did advance its claim on thier homes?

FROG
how bout a spew alert next time?

LOL

Knight Who Said NI
I think someone flushed twice and whisked TR off to his new home!

Foolish
It's odd that a company selling a high-priced liquor would do something so foolish. The ones responsible have obviously never visited the real Mexico and seen her citizens burning tires for heat and living in cardboard boxes. It really makes a lot of sense to insult the Americans for a bunch of Mexicans who are congenitally incapable of self-governance and who are dirt poor unless they can sneak across the border and live off the United States. How much Absolut can Mexicans afford to buy, anyway? Besides that, if the text were in English, the Mexicans would likely be unable to read it. No more Absolut in this house!

Sorry SSGT ...
I was too busy shuddering and shaking the creepies off to think of a spew alert. I'll try to be more cognizant next time.

Isn't this from the same country
that gave Al Gore the Nobel prize?
Nuff said.

Tom the Tinker, I still have family in
Mexifornia, good conservative people. Still, I'd be willing to sacrifice it on the altar of "Mexican Reparations" just to see what all those libs would do. Just think, 55 less electoral votes for the next democrat presidential nominee! It might be fun to watch!

Don't waste it !
Don't pour it out...you've already paid for it and negatively affected the trade balance in the process.

Drink what you have.

Enjoy what you drink.

Just never buy it again.

Buy American for the reload.

Nanny
I appreciate that you don't like Malkin's articles, but it occurs to me that she is getting paid for her work, while you appear to be a jealous hack who is forced to write for free.

Sadly, you believe what you write.

SSGT, GunnyG, Wildwest, Happy Jake, Frog
And anyone else I missed:

A hearty good morning to all of you!

Absolut-ly stupid
Why would ANY company, whose main consumers are in the US, cater to a country whose main consumption of alcohol is tequila and mezcal? No matter how pretty the package, or how varied the flavors, vodka has never been popular in Mexico.

I know many Mexican Nationals who think vodka is an adequate sustitute for Drano.

Thanks Ms. Malkin!!!!

GunnyG
So when's the annual VRWC barbecue? Seems to me there's a lot of prime lib in here, ready for the grill.

LOL

YLG
A hearty good morning to you, ma'am!

Curtal Friar
Nice job on Nanny.

Gotta love the way the peanut gallery chimes in but ALWAYS fails to put up or shut up. Reminds me of Robert discussing his sniper tactics and then skedaddling when the challenge to shoot for dough came up.

But that's libs, all show and no go.

GunnyG, SSGT, Curtal, Knight
Good morning, y'all!!

GunnyG; Great blog this morning. #1 will be reading, and memorizing it!

SSGT: Hope your day goes easy on you. And the pup, too!!

CurtalFriar: Go easy on Nanny. Ignorance is not always bliss, you know.

Knight: I found out where tr went. Seems he had a breakdown, and is on the Tea Cup ride at Disney World. The castmembers have filed a complaint about the excess drool, and the odor factor. I will keep you posted.

Curtal Friar
We've been batting this idea around for awhile now. Got to snag some land for a weekend maybe and then do the pot luck thing. We're gonna have to also solicit a few cows from VWRC farmers! haha.

The Prime Lib we'll save for the night games. They make great torches! It's all that fat between their ears. H*ll, Michael Mooreon would burn for a week! HAHAHAHA!

YLG/Curtal Friar
GOOOOOOOOD morning to the both of you!

Curtal: Nanny needs attention too! Lets not forget the down trodden.

YLG: Whats up? Why do you want to keep sending us that bad weather? I'm starting to get a complex! :-)

SSGT
Dude....seriously....

I live five blocks from the SUN!!

Of course, it's overcast today, which means the high will be relatively cool, at about high 80s...

I might even need a jacket....

;-)

YLG
and a spew alert from you as well missy!!!!

tr, teacup ride! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

when it's closer to home...
How idiotic to think, in the age we live in, that an ad you run in one market/country would not be seen in the neighboring market/country (especially given the offensive content). Would Absolut have run a similar ad in Germany, showing a map with all the land occupied by the Third Reich in 1941, and then been surprised at the uproar? I imagine the answer is no...

tom the tinker
exactly what claim can those from south of the border make on the now sovereign territory of america. There isn't enough wealth in all of mexico to repurchase the land nor are the hispanics going to absorb long term debt to acquire it. It is merely the hispanic version of the old black reparation theme only land being the prize rather than the cash.

Robert?Kimberly
STFU...for Robert
FYI Michelle Malkin's parents were LEGAL immigrants when she was born in Philadelphi, PA,USA.
So stop with your spewing of the anchor baby moniker. You say you like truth. Well, this one's gotta hurt, hey?

Robert
Dude,

I get you don't care for Malkin's articles, and you like to disparage her as an anchor baby.

But at the end of the week, she gets a paycheck for her writings, and you are forced to write for free.


If you are so much better and smarter and talented, how you ain't getting a paycheck as well for you tripe?

5 Stars Michelle
Do not mind the idiots on here, they are jealous too be sure.
Does any one have a contact for Absolut?

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

So wobbie
being almost out, and out, are in FACT two different things! CORRECT? MORON!!!!!!!!





Robert claimed to be an ANCHOR BABY!

The questions are:

1. Were woobie's parents here legally?

2. Were woobie's parents here ILLEGALLY?

3. If woobie's parents were here ILLEGALLY, how could he have any documentation?

4. If woobie's parents were here legally, how would that make him any different from what he accuses Michelle?


ModMark
Sorry, not a Kluxer, but I know you liberals are pretty fascists, hence the book by Jonah Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."

So which arm do you wear your swastika on? Do you guys still do the heil thing or what? Do you all sing the Horst Wessel song at liberal get togethers? Brown shirt or Black?


Curtal Friar: And, as many times as

woobie has been told, he doesn't quite get it that NO ONE CARES what he has to say ABOUT ANYTHING anyway...





Hal the disgruntled liar scribbles:
The reconquista is no more offensive than these tired old folks populating TH

I guess not too someone who wants too hand their country over too a foreign power with out a fight. I use too think wobbie was the biggest dumb punk on TH. I was wrong, you are. I will from now on address you as above, because there is simply no way you ever had enough courage too be a LT. Col in our Air Force even if all you had to do was to polish a seat with your fat backside.
This old folk would give his half acre in the hot place to meet you once, just once.
.
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Anne
A hearty good morning to you, ma'am!

MM
Good article,just seems like a DEEP lack of thinking skills on the part of some ad agencies.It does make one wonder WHY,in this day with instant communication, someone in this agency,shall we say, overlooked the chance that ad would hit the internet at some point? Or,is that what they were aiming for? Someone hand them a stick to scrape the pile off their shoes.

The Townhall Coward®'s...
...idiotic post is gone, as predicted.

So, Robert. You ever going to accept GunnyG's challenge for a shooting contest?

Or BrianR's offer to pay your expenses for a little mano y mano showdown?

Or do you enjoy being the "Townhall Coward®"?

Let's not get too complicated here - a simple "yes" or "no" will do.

Or do you need to run away again? "Virus-checker" problems and all....

Courious
Why is anyone giving robert even any notice over his inane posts?

Just Flag him and scroll on. Anything else is complete waste of time.

Absolut Knuckleheads
Sweden's sorry state would be "East Germany" if the patriots in the USA, and Allied powers, hadn't stopped the Nazis. Stick THAT on your map, you Absolut knuckleheads!

Primus54 writes:
The Townhall Coward®'s...
...idiotic post is gone, as predicted.

So, Robert. You ever going to accept GunnyG's challenge for a shooting contest?

Or BrianR's offer to pay your expenses for a little mano y mano showdown?

Or do you enjoy being the "Townhall Coward®"?

Let's not get too complicated here - a simple "yes" or "no" will do.

Or do you need to run away again? "Virus-checker" problems and all....

RJS is now recycling old jokes, and claiming his "backseater" came up with it. Hell, I heard 33 years ago.

Doc
WELL SAID! I'll be laughing about that one for awhile.

polish a seat with your fat backside...

LMMFAO!

ModMark
Actually Curtal Friar wrote that. Do try to keep up.

Doc
My pleasure.

If you have a moment, swing by the best d*mn blog on TH and see what has one of my troll's panties in a wad!

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com

ModMark
"But lets make it a real challenge, the shooting starts after we knock off the keg."

What state do you live in? That way I can avoid it. It's not even funny to joke about that crap. Hopefully you're a dyed-in-the-wool hoplophobe and as unknowledgable about firearms as Hillary is about the truth and how to tell it.

Hey GunnyG & wildwest: Ever been to

Scranton?

Well, you don't really have to go there...

Just drive up Rte. 81, and you can see the most depressed area you could imagine... Probably answers a few questions as to why hal doofus is WHAT he is...









LJ7392
The closest the Townhall Coward® has ever come to having a "back-seater" was when he and some 8-year old kid climbed into an aircraft on static display at the air show.

Without Tom Clancy, Google and Wikipedia to provide him with "lingo", he'd sound totally clueless.

Hell, even with that he didn't know the ordnance colors for combat loads. Not to mention his use of "USSC" instead of the proper military acronym for the Supreme Court, "SCOTUS".

But have you noticed he no longer makes any direct claims to being a naval officer? He sort of implies it, but no longer states it.

It seems he got put on notice by some public officials to stop the impersonation or face the consequences.

When I heard that, I couldn't stop laughing for 10 minutes!

Rockhead J. Squirrel writes:
"I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL"....as the rest of the country is just laughing out loud...I can just see Merc G doing it as he cleans toliets.

Some people never grow up.

Robert

And you are an expert on that, not growing up.

For ALL the stupid people
on here, I want too explain that "lib roasting" is a metaphor and this explains why I have never got an answer for my question I have asked many lib moonbats here, and that is why it is always Republicans that have voted for civil rights and dems against, and yet you continue to call us the fascist? Hmmm methinks they do protest too loudly.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Absoute Map
Since our government won't defend our borders, should we then send our property taxes to Mexico?

Wobbie
It appears to me that you're the one dodging and weaving when it comes right down to it. I've offered to fly, at my own expense, to debate you in public. I've offered to get you on Quantico to their 0-1000 yd line so you can fire your .203 caliber rifle (whatever the h*ll that is) and I'll use my 03A3. I've even put a 1000.00 cashier check from my mercenary pay down but you scamper off like the little girl you are.

Where you taking your blow up doll for dinner tonight? Wendy's or Arby's?

Is a patch kit part of your web gear in case you get too rambunctious and she/he gets a blow out?

BTW, proud as h*ll to be a mercenary for America. Better than a gutless coward like you.

Ever notice
that countries that consume the most vodka per person, also have some of the highest suicide rates in the world. It can be said that most of those countries are located in colder climes during the winter i.e. Russia,Finland, Sweden but it's ironic that all these countries also are very socialistic in nature. Makes one wonder what will happen if we elect Obama or Clinton to the White House the effect it will have on suicide rates.

http://www.aneki.com/suicide.html


There are only two choices here.
"In no way was the ad meant to offend or disparage, or advocate an altering of borders, lend support to any anti-American sentiment, or to reflect immigration issues."

Either the Swedes are, as an entire group, monumentally stupid, or simply liars.

Seeing as how kooky commies like Kimmie, Robert, and Hal are all coming out to defent Absolut, I'm betting it's a bit from column A and a bit from column B.

Anne
Must be all of that fine liberal leadership that we keep hearing about working so well in Scranton.

Don't even need to read further
I didn't even get past this line before I knew where this was going....

"The Swedis-owned Vodka maker"

Why is anyone surprised???? It's so much fun being the whipping post for all those Socialist countries. I take a strange kind of pride in it.

Prediction
The Townhall Coward® (aka, Robert) will have to leave this thread very soon.

He's got rivers to patrol and has an obsolete 90's "virus-checker".

Not to mention that when the heat gets a little too hot in the kitchen, it's "exit - stage left"!

Here's a new slogan for you, Robert:

"John S. McCain - Proudly endorsed by the Townhall Coward® and his favorite CinC, George W. Bush!"

Primus54
Do you think robert really supports McCain and his views?

1. Make the tax cuts permanent.
2. End the out of control spending. i.e. earmarks
3. Maintain a presence in Iraq for 100+ years
4. Secure the borders First
5. Appoint Judges Like Roberts, Scalia and Thomas







ModMark
I'll buy you a ticket to visit Saudi Arabia if you promise to wear an "Allah SUCKS" T-shirt as you go through customs. C'Mon, no guts no glory.

wobbie the rock baby scribbles:
Some people never grow up.

A start would be moving out of your mommy’s basement. Of course you would have to pay off “squeaky” to be able too take her with you. Maybe the seat polisher can help you out, after all you do share with him. Did he take my advice and remove his fake insignia off his collars so she would quit deflating so much? I still bet that’s where your problem with the leaks come from.
Who here thinks that she takes orders at a faster pace from a fake lt. col than a fake capt? IF she knows the chain of command.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.



SSGT
Off topic here,but knowing you are a dog fan,here is a funny read for you. The title is "Training People" by Tess of Helena,How to bring out the best in your Human. Chronicle Books. It has a picture of the "writer" on the cover,a chocolate Lab. Any dog fan will like it.

Doc
"wobbie the rock baby"

And here I thought he was the product of that beastiality farm in Eucumclaw Washington. Hmm.


Once again
I must apologise for my stupid rantings.

I mentioned BrianR a few minutes ago but I really hope he doesn't see that. BrianR scares me so much I crap in my panties everytime he comes on. And then I have to get my foster mother, Lilly, to wash them out for me.

And I really know that Michelle is not an anchor babe but that is what George Soros tells me to write and he is the one who signs the paychecks. I just wish it would be enough to get a pepsi cola and a pack of peanuts. I need a raise. I am so stupid that Lilly looks like Albert Einstein compared to me.

I am so stupid that I was 28 years old before I realized that I was not a girl (even though Lilly dressed me in pink girlie panties and bras).

I am so stupid that I look up to Hal D for advice. And I also look up to him when I am on my knees (wink - wink)

I am so stupid that the writers of "Dumb and Dumber" used me as inspiration (inspiraion, that's a big word for me) for their movie script.

I am so stupid that Piggly Wiggly fired me because I could not remember to come back into the store when I took out other peoples' groceries.

I did learn how to tie my shoes the other day but Lilly says now I should learn how to tie each one, instead of tying them together. That way I won't fall down when I try to walk.

Well, gotta go take my BDS meds now and I think I heard the intercom say "Clean up on aisle 9."

I really wish I could figure out where that voice is coming from.


GunnyG
will you give me an all expense paid trip to Quantico? I would love to take you up on that! Win or lose, I would rather accept the challenge, than run from it!

Wobbie, why are you running from the Gunny?

Yo Guns
You wrote:

"ModMark
I'll buy you a ticket to visit Saudi Arabia if you promise to wear an "Allah SUCKS" T-shirt as you go through customs. C'Mon, no guts no glory."

A goodun'

clyde
thanks bunches. I will check it out, even though my heart is with Sheppards.
RUFF
RUFF

The Right To Be Offended
(ahem, in my best Andy Rooney voice)

Didja ever notice how Liberals never think that Conservatives have a right to be offended by something? When Liberals are offended, they expect everyone to stop and listen to their complaints, as if it were a Papal Bull on the morality of this or that. But when Conservatives are offended by something, Liberals always, question the the motives for Conservative complaints.

Do you think that's fair, to always delegitmize the feelings of Conservatives? You never see Conservatives tell liberals that their feelings aren't legitimate, do you? And how about the way Liberals always use ad hominem attacks on Conservatives, and the way they always ascribe immoral motives to Conservatives? Do Liberals really think that no one could possibly argue over immigration policy without it being from racist motives? Why aren't Liberals concerned with the amount of tax dollars being absorbed by illegal aliens? Liberals pay taxes too, don't they? What is it that they think they are gaining for their tax dollars spent on illegal aliens that benefits them and keeps them encouraging more illegal immigration? Is it because alot of them are vegetarians, and the price of lettuce means that much to them? How much would lettuce cost if we didn't have illegal aliens picking it? I doubt it would be more than what a gallon of gasoline goes for these days. And which would it be easier for us to do without; gasoline, or lettuce?

Now, I've seen the ad that Michelle Malkin has complained about. The first thing I thought was: Why does Absolut Vodka think that Texas is going to declare war on California, Mexico, and Venezuala? Did I miss something going on in Texas? Is their some big secessionist movement down there? In any event, I can understand why somebody glancing at that map might get the idea that it was supporting Mexican Reconquista. And yes, that IS a real movement, just go check out the La Raza website.

Curtal Friar
OMG!!!!

Post a "SPEW ALERT" next time!!!

Astroglide??? Hugh Hefner???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

I'm laughing so hard, I'm crying!

an Absolut apology?
The company apologized for the ad yesterday:

http://www2.nysun.com/article/74364

ModMooky
"Pain, is weakness leaving the body" I say go visit The Kingdom in the T-shirt!

ModMark
How about draft beer , that way if we invite Bill Clinton to the Gore roast he will avoid the beer!

mexicans need to grow up and move on
To all of those mexicans who feel the American southwest was stolen from them, I have three things to say.

1. you fought a war with us over that territory. you lost. too bad. next time get a better army.

2. you lost that land 160 years ago. get over it.

3. fix your own country. then you won't have to covet ours.

ModMark
I wish you would leave. Michelle's columns are for me.

For me I say. Only me.

ME. ME. ME. It's all about me.

I am the villiage idiot and I won't share that title with you. Only Hal Donahue (he's my man and you can't have him) and Lilly get to share that title with me.

You make me look intelligent compared to your posts.

You idiot scum sucker. I was here first. Now go away.

So much for the Townhall Coward®

Any person who has claimed the life that our resident "Walter Mitty" has claimed would enthusiastically accept the challenge GunnyG has proposed.

Cowards are easy to identify when they get called to put up or shut up.

You get an "F-" for honor, Robert.

(I'm sure everyone is "shocked"! Yeah, right!)

Wobbie/Hal
Wobbie/Hal = Gay
Will = Gay

Wobbie/Hal + Will = True Love


Anne
You wrote:
Anne writes: Wednesday, April, 09, 2008 10:25 AM
Hey GunnyG & wildwest: "Ever been to

Scranton?

Well, you don't really have to go there...

Just drive up Rte. 81, and you can see the most depressed area you could imagine... Probably answers a few questions as to why hal doofus is WHAT he is..."

Thanks!! That explains why the oberleutnant continues to utter his inane and mindless drivel.

Reconquista
Michelle,

Maybe we'd be better off if Mexico officially annexed southern California. The idea of Hollywood being part of Mexico and the "elite" being thrown into the Mexican corruption and lawlessness seems humorous to me.

Robert the self proclaimed "Anchor Baby"

is walking on thin ice here....

He'd better watch it before he falls through... LOL




Kimberly=Idiot
Welcome Back-NOT!

SSGT
Hey, if you showed up, I'd get ya on just for fun! That's a h*lluva range they got. You know my email if you make it up that way.

Willi and Anne
You want to see some devastation caused by liberals and their wacky policies, go take a drive through east St. Louis

Robert
Do you really support McCain and his views?

1. Make the tax cuts permanent.
2. End the out of control spending. i.e. earmarks
3. Maintain a presence in Iraq for 100+ years
4. Secure the borders First
5. Appoint Judges Like Roberts, Scalia and Thomas


roxstargirl
Well said. Let me add to it. Liberal politicians also act like their are no records or recording devices. Al Gore constantly lied about his record when running for Prez. A record easily accessed. Dems say this is Bush's War despite 1998, when most democrat politicians are on record urging regime change in Iraq. None of the hurdles (UN Approval) put up in front of Bush by the dems were foisted upon President Clinton. If it wasn't for MSM protection and covering up for them, these liberals would be laughed off the stage for their multitude of hypocrisies.

Curtal Friar writes:
Willi and Anne
You want to see some devastation caused by liberals and their wacky policies, go take a drive through east St. Louis

Or South Dallas

As Real As It Gets
Robert wrote that La Raza and the Reconquista movement is as real as "any of the nutcake milita groups". But that analogy really doesn't hold up, and that is the precise reason why Conservatives are alarmed:

As Andy Rooney might ask: Does the Posse Commitatis(sp?) have a chapter in nearly every university across the country like La Raza has?

Is the La Raza ethos of fascist racism (lets face it, a motto that says "For the race everything, outside the race, nothing" is right up there with Nazi ideology, and has creepy echoes of Mussolini's declaration of "For the State, Everything; outside the State, nothing") really just a "fringe" belief in the Latin Community? Or is it, like Black Liberation Theology, something that has much wider purchase in the hearts and minds of the relevant minority community? Is it much, MUCH, more prevalent than we had previously thought???

The millions marching in pro-amnesty rallies, and their well documented attitude that the Southwest "belongs" to them, seems to suggest that this is not just a fringe group, or fringe belief, and that is the problem.

The problem with the Reconquista Movement is that it is emblematic of the Mexican attitude of coming here to colonize, not to assimilate. It is that attitude that sets the Mexicans apart from every prior wave of immigrants, and why they must be viewed differently, and dealt with differently.

Why 1848?
Why is it that every group of morons who lost something in a war always wants to turn the clock back only to the moment before that loss?

If the issue is conquest and how it's wrong to claim land that way, Mexicans of Spanish descent have an awful lot to answer for themselves. What rightful claim do they have to land they lost in a war when they had stolen that land from the native Americans who lived there when they showed up in the 1600s and enslaved those people they didn't kill? How was the Spanish conquest of Central America legitimate, yet the American conquest of Mexico land not?

This is just the typical crybaby BS you get from third world losers who can't come to grips with the fact that they lost in a fair fight.

ModMark
So I guess you don't pick the place huh? You're better off sticking to Disneyland anyway.

justpaul
Great point but it's lost on the libs. Facts and logic can't penetrate that thick layer of dense bone they call a head.

Check my essay today, I discuss the Euros silence on their various wars, genocides, etc, as they blame the USA aided by our fifth columnists at the DNC.

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/

Wobbie
Sorry to say, I'm not gay. But thanks for showing an interest.

You got something going on with LarryC? Does Will know?

Robert
Do you really support McCain and his views?

1. Make the tax cuts permanent.
2. End the out of control spending. i.e. earmarks
3. Maintain a presence in Iraq for 100+ years
4. Secure the borders First
5. Appoint Judges Like Roberts, Scalia and Thomas

OR is it just part of your faux online persona?

ModMark writes:
I apologies for assuming conservatives are cannibals.

Yea, think about it. Al Bore could feed two or three states. Not like we are wasteful or stingy, so we could not do it. Although the fat from his arse alone would grease all the armor in Iraq, heck the Army for that matter. For the first time in his life he would be useful!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Knight Who Said NI
It must gall Robert something fierce when Bush endorsed fellow-RINO McShamnesty. Probably made his BDS flare up into a flown blown case of the piles, much to HalD's dismay.

Robert helLOOO! *knock *knock
Do you really support McCain and his views?

1. Make the tax cuts permanent.
2. End the out of control spending. i.e. earmarks
3. Maintain a presence in Iraq for 100+ years
4. Secure the borders First
5. Appoint Judges Like Roberts, Scalia and Thomas

No, "LATTER/LATER; John S. McCain master and commander" this time?

Knight Who Said NI writes:
Robert
Do you really support McCain and his views?

1. Make the tax cuts permanent.
2. End the out of control spending. i.e. earmarks
3. Maintain a presence in Iraq for 100+ years
4. Secure the borders First
5. Appoint Judges Like Roberts, Scalia and Thomas

Knight: Do not expect a simple answer from Rockhead J. Squirrel. If he does answer, the answer will be convoluted, incoherent, inane, insane, idiotic, filled with misspellings, and grammatic mistakes. By the time you finish it, you won't even remember your original question.

Wobbie's Logic
"But we have to balance the budget or the economy will implode."

Really thimblebrain? Considering that we've had a deficit since the earliest records of this country, when, pray tell, is this implosion going to happen?

For example, the deficit was $54.3 billion in 1943. That was 64 years ago and it's not gotten better.


GunnyG
I have had the luck of getting to go to Quantico several times! Beautiful base there, but never got to see the range! If I get over that way this year, I will definately take you up on that one!

Meant to add
the link.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/hist debt.htm

So when we imploding o' knowledgable blowhole?

A Great Compromise!
Mexico's claim to the American Southwest is based on the twenty years Mexico existed before the US-Mexican War. Why dont we compromise and just return all the former Spanish possessions in the New World to Spain? Their claim is based on three hundred years of history.
The Absolut company is based in Sweden, which will be majority muslim in the next decade or so; the native Swedes have apparently taxed and drunk themselves into such a left-wing stupor that they've forgotten to have any children. The new Islamic government of Swedistan will close down Absolut and wrap the female employees in attractive burkas, as they deserve.

SSGT
Saturday is the best day to head there and crank off a few rounds. Well kept range and a pleasure to shoot on.

Rockhead J. Squirrel writes:
are you stupid

No, that is a description of yourself.

robert GREAT your still here!
Okay Then Lets go.

1) Make Tax cuts permanent
You: "I am for the tax cuts being amde permanent if cuts in spending can be found"

That is McCain's old position prior to his come back. He says he if for making the tax cuts permanent now period.

2) Your not clear. Ending all EARMARKS and cutting spending to include domestic spending?

3) Presence in Iraq. Good, we agree their.

4) We also agree about securing the borders. Who has said we should toss out all the brown people? The little man in your head?

5) Your Answer: ""like" is a interesting word...Ted Olsen suports McCain and Ted Olsen is a justice I would be quite pleased with. His logic in Bush V Gore was brilliant and I am not a big fan of the 10th amendment...I think that the 14th pretty much repealed it. Roberts in partiuclar is to much of a corporate crony for my taste."

You find your answer under the term obfuscation as an example. So no answer there, huh?

By the way, you used the term "McNasty" and you said you are a McCain supporter. Has this changed?

Knight Who Said NI writes:
OR is it just part of your faux online persona?

BINGO! Wobbie is no more a conservative (or a republican delegate) than Brraacckk Hussein Obama is. He just comes on here and spouts lib mantra and tries to keep the sh!tpot stirred up and better the libs chances by splitting the Republican vote between McCain and the write in vote. He is not smart enough to figure out that the GOP is responsible for that. Of course with his ego, I am sure he will tell his masters that he accomplished that feat him self.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

GunnyG-Ssgt-CFriar-Primus-YLG-LJ7392-Nee
And Others! GOD MORNING!

Some Random Thoughts:

Swedes are as Cowardly as the French, or Robert or Hal for that matter, they are just too Drug/Drink Addled and/or Lazy to raise their hands.

Saying Scranton is DEPRESSED is like saying water is wet. They would have to PAINT Scranton before they could CONDEMN it!

ABSOLUTELY Boycott ABSOLUT. That will dry up their American Market until they get Hal ‘Huffington Hater’ Drunkahue’s address.

I see Robert is still DUCKING ANY AND ALL folks who call him out. How does A GUTLESS COWARD like Robert look himself in the mirror. Hopefully he doesn’t and will cut his throat while shaving.

Q: How is an Illegal like a Cue Ball?

A: The harder you hit them, the better English you get out of them!

Robert
"dullard" huh? You know what they say about people living in class houses?

By the way I am not the one that comes here and makes up a fictitious life. Which by the way is incredibly pathetic.

Knight Who Said NI writes:
robert GREAT your still here!
Okay Then Lets go.

1) Make Tax cuts permanent
You: "I am for the tax cuts being amde permanent if cuts in spending can be found"

That is McCain's old position prior to his come back. He says he if for making the tax cuts permanent now period.

2) Your not clear. Ending all EARMARKS and cutting spending to include domestic spending?

3) Presence in Iraq. Good, we agree their.

4) We also agree about securing the borders. Who has said we should toss out all the brown people? The little man in your head?

5) Your Answer: ""like" is a interesting word...Ted Olsen suports McCain and Ted Olsen is a justice I would be quite pleased with. His logic in Bush V Gore was brilliant and I am not a big fan of the 10th amendment...I think that the 14th pretty much repealed it. Roberts in partiuclar is to much of a corporate crony for my taste."

You find your answer under the term obfuscation as an example. So no answer there, huh?

By the way, you used the term "McNasty" and you said you are a McCain supporter. Has this changed?

See what I told you. RJS's amswer makes absolutely no sense.

Doc
"BINGO! Wobbie is no more a conservative (or a republican delegate) than Brraacckk Hussein Obama is."

Yea I think is answer pretty much support your assertion. He really only answered on directly the rest are full of qualifiers that even McCain, a politician, doesn't give.

skep 41
isn't sweden another of those countries those lovable muslim youths go around raping women outside their culture to introduce them to the muslims ways. The world must be suffering anxiety pains just waiting for muslim enlightenment to happen everywhere

they can have Arizona...
... if they'll take the senior Arizona senator with them. (Or is that the *senor* Arizona senator?)

Doc
"BINGO! Wobbie is no more a conservative (or a republican delegate) than Brraacckk Hussein Obama is."

Yea, I think his answers pretty much support your assertion. He really only answered on directly the rest are full of qualifiers that even McCain, a politician, doesn't give.

Lumberjack7392
Oh, I kind of suspected his answer would be like that. I just can't resist the chance to make ol robert make himself look foolish by defending his faux online persona.

skep41
That's a good start, but you're still rewarding one group of people based on a limited time frame of occupation.

If the Spanish are more worthy of Mexico than the Mexicans because they were there longer, then aren't the people who had been there for something like 110000 years when the Spanish showed up even more worthy? But if that's the case, aren't the animals who had been there for millions of years when those people showed up even more worthy yet? And why stop with the New World? What about the Neanderthals? They occupied vast portions of Europe before they were beaten back by Homosapiens. Shouldn't they get all the land?

Yes, this is ridiculous, but so is the claim these people make to portions of the Southwestern U.S. Getting there first doesn't mean shite when you consider that there were people standing on the beach to welcome Columbus when he landed in the Caribbean in 1492. It' just whiny BS from the losers who have so totally screwed their own country that they now want to steal some well-developed land from their neighbors, but they don't have the balls to try and do it the old-fashioned way, so instead they cry to the media. Mexico is what it is because its government is corrupt and the only Mexicans who have any drive at all are the ones who keep leaving it for the hated country to the north, where they can actually get jobs because, unlike in Mexico, people here are actually working to build something.

Georgetwin
Pernod Ricard, a French company, just bought Absolut, and that tells me everything I need to know about them.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

;-)

alisa w
exactly why should we give anything to these third world hispanic law breakers. They already live in a third world toliet why should the efforts of others be given to these parasites already here illegally and are continuing to defy the rule of law. Why should we reward lawbreakers

Robert
I appreciate the thoughtful reply, but I believe you are over-optimistic about the so-called beneficial effects of Mexican immigration for the following reasons:

1) Mexican immigration (principally illegal) is in far greater numbers than Irish immigration, and in a far shorter amount of time. A society cannot assimilate 20 million people in ten years time;

2) Unlike the Era of Irish Immigration, there is no coordinated govt policy of assimilation for Mexicans. If anything, govt policy is stood on its head, and now encourages NON-assimilation. It does so by pandering to bi-lingualism, dual citizenship, and an absolute failure to inculcate American pride or knowledge of American history or civics. Indeed, how can it, since the immigrants are sneaking in?

3) Unlike Irish immigration, Mexicans don't WANT to be Americans. The Irish WANTED to be American. Big Difference. Mexicans want to remain "Mexicans-Living-In-America". They don't want to learn the language and they don't want to integrate in American society.

As long as Mexicans talk about "reconquering" vast swaths of America FOR Mexico, I cannot consider ever greater numbers of such people coming into the country as a good thing. It will not make us stronger, it will only Balkanize us.

Knight Who Said NI writes:
Lumberjack7392
Oh, I kind of suspected his answer would be like that. I just can't resist the chance to make ol robert make himself look foolish by defending his faux online persona.

What really helps him make a fool of himself is to complain about someone calling him names, then turning around and doing it himself.

Hey Pals
Isn’t it nice to know that wobbie thinks there are so few of us as he points out? I would like to thank you few people for defeating amnesty so many times last year. Keep up the work this year!
And now I leave you for a bit and with my impression of wobbie.

Later/latter folks, I am off for some midrats at 9:00 am and then it’s off to pump squeaky in more ways than one, if I can get her back from DrukenHaL.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

wildwest
Sorry -- couldn't agree more -- my remark was meant only as a stab at McAmnesty. And please, no offense meant to Arizona. You can't help who your senator is.... oh, wait. That's right. You can..


Rockhead J. Squirrel writes:
By the way I am not the one that comes here and makes up a fictitious life.
...

Except you do. Whenever anybody states that they have done something, had a particular job, or been somewhere, you immediately claim to have done the same thing, done the same job, been to the location and lived there. I suspect a neuro-opthalmologist could start posting here, and you'd claim to be one.

I think
when the next Hitler rises in Europe we should look the other way since they no longer believe in borders.

I can go into the ridiculousness of that marketing campaign but I won't. One thing I will say is that most of Mexico cannot afford Absolut Vodka so why alienate the market that can! Stupid, stupid, stupid!

As to the liberals on here success is the best revenge so put up or shut up. When you get paid for writing and get published let us know.

Doc
I borrowed a page from the liberals and "opened the graveyards" to defeat Scamnesty.

Addition
Whenever anybody states that they have done something, had a particular job, or been somewhere, you immediately claim to have done the same thing, done the same job, EXCEPT ONLY BETTER.

alisa w
alas that is the problem with incumbantcy. The same trolls keep getting re-elected. I have maintained the reason mccain never dropped out when he was mired at the bottom of the polls is that his ex-rodeo queen wife wants to be first lady and since she pays the bills he jumps when she tells him to

Joisey and Lumberjack7392
Joisey don't box robert in with to many facts or well thought out assertions. His response will quickly become less thoughtful and he will start either name calling or repeating his same position over and over without thought to your responses.

Take it from us after months of watching robert's modus operandi. You may think we are mean to robert but we treat him this way only because after months of experience we know how big of a fraud he is.

GunnyG-Primus-YLG-Ssgt-Knight-Anne-Nee
The first 2 colonies of The Islamic Republic of Europe.

I’ll bet Viking and Celtic Warriors are spinning in their graves over what their homelands have become.

ModMark writes:
Just to be clear, if a lib say I want to eat Jessica Alba, we do not fire up the BBQ.

On that we agree 100% some meat is better eating tar tar!
wobbie:
Latter/later folks. GOD I am so important! (giggles)

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Robert writes: "... I am not the one

that comes here and makes up a fictitious life."

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Oh my... that was one THE funniest things I've read on TH in a looooong time...




And, btw, the idiot doesn't even know that it should be "I'm not the one WHO..."

Clearly, not only does woobbie NOT have a grasp on reality, he doesn't have a grasp of English grammar.









robert
"but you really need to learn to read the board before posting stupid comments like "why wont you reply"

Really!? With a statement like that people would think you have never posted on a forum before.

No clue as to why that could happen huh?

ROFLMAO

wildwest --
"ex-rodeo queen wife." Hats off to that one. And I thought she was an ex-lap-dancer.

lolo
the next hitler in europe will hav e his head wrapped in a towel. Butr it won't be much of a struggle, europe has already invited the enemy in to infest their borders and won't defend themselves against any invasion

Rockhead J. Squirrel writes:
LOL

still funny

Not a bad description of you and your posts. We LOL at the posts, and think you are funny.

wildwest
Funny how that works.

McVain graduates fifth from the BOTTOM from the USNA but still goes to flight school.

McVain's only claim to fame is getting shot down in Vietnam and becoming a POW. No slight on him, jus the fortunes of war.

He comes back and one day is the C.O. of a squadron at Jax I believe, well ahead of his peers, who, BTW, graduated ahead of him at the USNA.

Must have helped having a Daddy and a G-Father as an Admiral.

Now, the ex-rodeo queen is paying the bills and doing the dictating.

I wonder who will distate to him in office if he makes it? Vincente Fox as advisor to the non drybacks? George Soreholes by donating money to McShamnesty's Reform Inst?

And now, from the fiction aisle:
The Townhall Coward ® writes to Joisey:

"My home is not in "norte mexico" (SAT, El Paso, laredo, Corpus and then to SAT) but I do live in "South Texas" ....and all you see is third or so generation of "mexican" children trying desperatly to be like our two girls were...and oddly enough the twins taking on parts of "mexico"...they are now down in Corpus for flight training and have fallen in love with the place and its "history" and culture."

Joisey, trust we TH veterans. The above is a complete & total fabrication.

"Robert" is a bi-polar, obsessive compulsive fraud who has been confronted by US Government officials for impersonating an officer i nthe military.

He is really & truly mentally ill, and is only allowed on these threads because he no longer completely crosses the line of law-breaking behavior.

You are not the first to be taken in by him.

Rockhead J. Squirrel writes:
Lumber take your meds
Lumberjack7392 writes: Wednesday, April, 09, 2008 12:13 PM ...

not only can you not keep the names straight, you cant keep who said what straight.

take your meds...lie down...it is happening.

Robert

WTF, does that have to do with what I posted. BTW, last I heard Houston, which is one of the many places you claim to live and its environs are on the Gulf Coast, not South Texas.