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Wednesday, March 12, 2008
Michelle Malkin :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Left's Escalating War on Military Recruiters
by Michelle Malkin
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Ideas have consequences. Inaction has consequences. For the past several years, I've chronicled the left's escalating war on military recruiters -- and the apathetic, weak-kneed response to it. The anti-recruiter thugs on college campuses and in liberal enclaves have thrived thanks to a combination of public indifference, law enforcement fecklessness and left-wing ideological apologism.

It has now been a week since the Times Square military recruitment center bombing. The investigation continues -- and so does the left's denial of the ongoing campaign against military recruiters. At a national conference of anarchists in Washington, D.C., last weekend, a "solidarity sticker" glorifying the biker bomber made the rounds. On the Internet, "peace" activists threatened the Gathering of Eagles, a national military support group that organized a rally at Times Square last weekend. From Pittsburgh to Berkeley, anti-war extremists have smeared recruiters as "death pimps" and "child predators." The militant Code Pink group continues to organize in-your-face protests to drive recruiters from major metropolitan areas.

The Times Square bombing was not an isolated incident, but an all-too-predictable symptom of reckless tolerance for dangerous "peace" peddlers skating on the edge of sedition. Lone nuts? Here is a brief history of the anti-military recruitment movement's mounting acts of vandalism and violence. I'll list, you decide:

March 2003: Anti-war zealots in Ithaca, N.Y., target a recruitment center that had been hit before with Molotov cocktails. On St. Patrick's Day, wielding cups of their own blood, they entered a Lansing military recruitment office and splashed their blood over recruiter posters, military cutouts and the American flag. Daniel Burns, Peter De Mott, Clare Grady and Teresa Grady were convicted in 2005 on two misdemeanor counts of trespassing and damaging federal property. All but Burns have been released from prison.

January 20, 2005: At Seattle Central Community College, Army recruiter Sgt. Jeff Due and his colleague Sgt. 1st Class Douglas Washington were hounded by an angry mob of 500 anti-war students. The recruiters' table was destroyed; their handouts, torn apart. Protesters threw water bottles and newspapers at the soldiers. The far-left Students Against War had been agitating to kick the recruiters off campus. The college administration refused to punish the radicals.

Jan. 31, 2005: Recruiters in Manhattan reported that a door to their office had been beaten in. Anarchist symbols were scrawled in red paint on the building. On the same day, New York police collared a young Manhattan College junior and charged him with throwing a burning rag into an Army recruiting station and ruining the door locks with super glue.

Feb. 1, 2005: At a South Toledo, Ohio, recruitment center, unhinged protesters hurled manure all over the building. They broke windows and sprayed vulgar graffiti -- "War is Sh*t" -- on office property.

Mid-Feb. 2005: Twenty-year-old anti-war goon Brendan Walsh is sentenced to five years in federal prison for hurling a Molotov cocktail through the window of a Vestal, N.Y., military recruitment office in 2003.

March 2005: In East Orange, N.J., young anti-military protesters shattered the windows of an Army recruitment station and a neighboring Navy office. At City College in New York, a campus secretary protesting recruiters was charged with second-degree assault, disorderly conduct and obstructing governmental administration. Police also arrested students Justin Rodriguez and Nicholas Bergreen for resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and assaulting a police officer.

March/April 2005: Anti-war extremists at New York's Bronx Community College shut down several military recruitment sessions. At UC Santa Cruz, "peace" thugs drove recruiters off campus after an hour-long demonstration of shouting and window banging.

May 2005: Anti-military students swarmed the booths of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the USAF at a San Francisco State University career fair. In Wisconsin, an Air Force ROTC information day was canceled due to threats by the University of Wisconsin-Madison chapter of Stop the War.

April 2006: UC Santa Cruz students ambushed military recruiters. Vandals at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill tossed cans of red paint in front of an ROTC office and spray-painted vulgarities all over its doors. University of Minnesota students splattered red paint all over an Army recruiting station.

December 2006: Anarchists in Lawrence, Kan., crippled business at an Army/Navy recruitment center, where workers' car tires were slashed and bomb-proof glass had to be installed.

Jan. 2007: Anti-war radicals laid siege to the U.S. Capitol and smashed windows at a downtown Washington recruitment center. Pittsburgh radicals shut down a recruitment station for a day, wielding signs calling recruiters "child predators."

March 2007: Vandals broke into a Milwaukee recruitment station wielding crowbars.

July 2007: A teenager in Bremerton, Wash., was charged with a felony for slashing 42 government tires of Army recruiting vehicles to protest the Iraq war and because he "hated the military." In Maryland, anti-recruiter vandals smashed a Rockville Air Force career center. In Lufkin, Texas, Navy recruiters were the targets of vandals who keyed their cars, smashed their windows and shot at their vehicles with "with what appeared to be a high-powered pellet gun."

August 2007: In Stamford, Conn., Francis Monaghan is arrested on charges that he twice left a fake bomb package at a military recruitment office.

September 2007: The far-left group Iraq Veterans Against the War calls on followers to commit fraud to interfere with military recruiters. Anti-war punks shut down the Times Square recruitment station.

October 2007: Code Pink defaces the Berkeley recruitment office, branding our troops as assassins.

Jan. 2008: The Code Pink/city council siege at the Berkeley recruiting center reaches a boiling point. Protesters chain themselves to the station to shut it down, and vandalize the windows with bloody handprints and signs branding recruiters "death pimps."

Feb. 2008: Anarchists trash the recruiting station at 14th and L Streets in Washington, D.C., which has been subjected to multiple attacks.

March 2008: The bomb goes off at the Times Square recruitment station.

When will this escalating war end? There will be no end in sight until lawmakers, law enforcement, the media and the public open their eyes to the hate, connect the dots, and stop coddling the increasingly crazed and emboldened anti-military militants before more bombs go off -- and innocents get harmed -- in the name of "peace."

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Hate Crime Legislation?
Maybe it's time for a Democratic member of congress to introduce hate crime legislation against attacking recruitment centers. After all, how can this not be considered a hate crime?

The reason a Democrat cannot and will not introduce this kind of legislation is that it would ensure their defeat in the next election. That is because it is their voters that are committing these hate crimes. Does anyone doubt the people doing these acts vote Democrat?

yup
Gotta agree Cyclist. It is a hate crime by their own definition. No reason a Republican couldn't do it , tho. The worst case, lefties say mean things and show their hypocrital attitudes.

Plus the irony would be priceless.

These perps should be sentenced
to a mandatory 20 year sentence at a federal prison with no chance of parole.

But with all the liberal/activists judges you can't even get 20 yrs for child molestation. It's like a badge of honor to them.

Hopefully, the next bomber will accidentally become a "suicide bomber."

Maybe Spitzer can see to it this is done in N.Y. Oh, nevermind, he'll be busy with his own problems in the foreseeable future.

Rangel, nope, he's busy trying to get more federal money for his "Charlie Rangel Shrine to Charlie Rangel."

Schumer, no explanation needed there.

Hillary, nope, she is too busy campaigning and raising Chinese money, while receiving a full salary at taxpayers expense.

Maybe the Gathering of Eagles can form their own "protest the protester" group and go after them with a taste of their own medicine. Like flattening the tires on their Prius'



The Cyclist
Your idea is good but hate crimes only apply to White on Black crime or Heterosexual on Homosexual crime.

Unless you are Robert "Sheets" Byrd or Geraldine Farraro. Then it is perfectly acceptable.


Shoot the fascists
These scum operate on the assumption that if caught, they'll get no more than a slap on the wrist. Recruiters should have side arms and use deadly force if attacked.

All recruiting offices should be outfitted with security cameras to catch after-hours vandalism.

None of this will stop until these gutless brown shirts realize that the risk to their precious selves is just too high.

Fightr4right
amen bro...and let's open up some concentration camps with security cameras and watchtowers.

Yeah, Zap
I think we should exile the aholes to Berkeley, put ankle bracelets on them and let them terrorize the local co-op vegan soup kitchens.

Hey Zap, I hear Ariana calling; she says it's past your bedtime.

I agree Fightr4right
Something has to be done about these anti-military types and since some of them have absolutely no qualms about using deadly force then the recruiters ought to be able to do likewise.

The cops have proven themselves to be unwilling and/or unable to do anything about the problem so let the recruiters take action themselves.

ANY and ALL of these anti-military "protesters" who are caught damaging recruiting office and/or recruiters property should face a mandatory MINIMUM prison term of 5 years at one of our finer Federal Resorts, such as, say, GITMO!!

Why does this look like history
repeating itself? It brings back "unfond" memories of the sixties as leftest agitators did these kinds of things and the local governments stood idly by in most places (except the South). The agitators learned that they could do almost anything they wanted with impunity.

As for slashing 42 tires, the last time I bought tires it cost me $250.00 for a set of tires (not counting the added taxes and fees). If the government used the same discount place to buy tires that I did (joke) then 42 tires would be app. $2500.00. If they fined this kid the $2500.00 plus 3 times that for punitive damages and added the cost of legal fees he would be up for about $50K, assuming it only took a day in court. I say hit him with it.

Those Code Pink A**holes!
Fantastic column Michelle, I guarantee you when all is said and done those Code Pink buttheads are behind the Times Square Recruitment Station bombing, they're acting like radical muslims. Here's hoping authorities throw the book at them when arrest are made. A clear message needs to be sent here.

..just a thought
Make ALL Military Recruiter centers Federal property and when local LEOs won't enforce the law, charge them as well.

Semper Fi Act
I wrote my senator asking him to consider the “No Earmarks for Berkley Bill”, or the “Semper Fi Act”: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.5222

You can also help by visiting http://www.brigadeamerica.com/. The website was creating by Mr. Brian G Dennard, who’s leading the charge against the Berkeley City Counsel.

As a 22 year veteran, I’m very disappointed when I see attacks like those highlighted by Mrs. Malkin. However, I think we should keep our responses firm but tempered; less we give the opposition ammunition. No doubt they’ll rationalize their own reasons, but we don’t need to seemingly give cause.

I don’t blame the youth for their distorted views and disrespectful actions. I pity them. They are the products of the liberal mindset that dominates the collage landscape. That’s where our fight is.


Make it a felony ...
that would ruin their chance for a fine career and watch most of these sniveling snobs crawl back into their protected life styles.

Way to go, Michelle!

BmanIII
RE "Hillary is too busy campaigning and [raising money] while still drawing a full salary at taxpayers' expense": Did I miss something? Has Senator John McCain resigned his Senate seat in order to campaign? Did President Bush resign the Presidency when he campaigned and fund-raised non-stop before the 2004 election? And on those campaigning and fund-raising trips, did he take a Greyhound bus at his own expense or Air Force One, at taxpayers' expense?

Make an attack on Iran an EXECUTABLE
offense. No trial required, as the act itself will be proof of guilt. Bush, Cheney, Rice, and everyone down the chain of command. If the guy on the launcher knows that it will cost him his life at the business end of a firing squad, he will not push it.

The English did it to Charles I. We should consider that as a fitting punishment for George II, should he continue down this disastrous path.

Beastie Boy
Two questions moron.

1. Did you know he was leaving in the May/June timeframe ANYWAY?

2. WTF is an ADMIRAL doing running Centcom, which is responsible for a ground war not a naval war?

Not the sharpest tool in the shed are ya?


lilly
The ONLY Senator to resign his position to run was Dole. Please don't mistake McShamnesty for a Conservative. He's one of you, thus the reason that none of us are voting for him.

What is your position on O-Vomit getting a fat paycheck for voting "present" in the Ill Senate. I guess yes or no isn't sufficiently nuanced for you libs.

gunnyg
what with the #12779

Michelle/ Support Needed
Thanks for reminding all the freaks about how they shitt on those providing freedom of speech...

May I remind people that the pro America/pro-troops folks will be in DC on Saturday? Standing tall to show how much we appreciate our Country, our troops and their sacrifices. We apparently, as the "silent majority" of one year ago, have chased away the leftist moonbats and they have 'supposedly' cancelled their appearance. Boo-friggin hoo on that. They can't stand being stood down for the traitors they are.
1000 hours on Saturday, Constitution Ave.

zapdoodip
My prayers are that I am in a position at one point in my life, to be able to come to the defense of a recruiter.

I knew 6 years ago....
I was one of those veterans attacked by these mutts 38 years ago at Travis Airbase and once in LAX.....as a result, I have carried a reasonably nasty hate for them since that time. When the first of these birds showed up on the streets just before Iraq front began, I predicted on several sites that these guys would become more and more violent as time passed. I was pretty much told that this time it was different...that they "looovvved" the troops, but hated the war. That their only interest was in bringing [condesendingly] our "braaave" soldiers home.

Hmmm...seems I was right and the phony, condesending, ignorant, drug addled, airheaded lefies were wrong....this would include this Beastie character.

I knew 6 years ago....
I was one of those veterans attacked by these mutts 38 years ago at Travis Airbase and once in LAX.....as a result, I have carried a reasonably nasty hate for them since that time. When the first of these birds showed up on the streets just before Iraq front began, I predicted on several sites that these guys would become more and more violent as time passed. I was pretty much told that this time it was different...that they "looovvved" the troops, but hated the war. That their only interest was in bringing [condesendingly] our "braaave" soldiers home.

Hmmm...seems I was right and the phony, condesending, ignorant, drug addled, airheaded lefies were wrong....this would include this Beastie character.

zapdoodip
Here is a list of my heros:

1. Parents
2. Parents
3. Military men and women
4. Heavenly Father

Is this a list of your heros

1. Castro
2. Chavez
3. Stalin

Just asking, dipstick!

With the events
cited by Michelle, I would venture that there are numerically more of them than the number of abortion clinics that were defaced, dammaged, or attacked.

In an acknolwedgement to the loons who will immediately flock to this post....I know there have been no murders of recruiters (yet) as there were some of the abortionists.

But with the unhinged actions of the leftists is it only a matter of time. Especially when you consider the loon reps that are on their city and state legislatures who encourage if not just turn a blind eye to it.

Lengthy confinment periods would be more than reasonable.

====prediction alert!!====

HalD(umbass), Wobbie, and other self proclaimed former mil members will post to assault the other posters, refer to anchor babies, or congradulate each other on vacations with inflatable partners before they take a stand against the action going on.

Beastie Boy scribbles:
Make an attack on Iran an EXECUTABLE
offense. No trial required, as the act itself will be proof of guilt.

HEY, maybe we should use this ideal for all the cowards MM writes about here. You know the "peace" loving bombers, the “peace" tire slasher’s the "peace" people who throw their blood, and all their ilk. And why not include people who throw out retarded ideals like yours?
Funny how all the "peace" people are so full of destruction and think some should have no trial as guaranteed by our constitution.
BTW Michelle, great piece for exposing the moonbats for what they are, COWARDS in the night!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.


GunnyG
You really did not expect the Beastiebum to know the difference between a commander of the Navy, and a commander of ground forces did you? The only ship that Beastienut has seen, is the rub-a-dub-dub, one tugboat in the tub!

fredo1
Still waiting to find out. Whatever it was, Wobbie didn't like it! haha

Doc
kinda like coc-a-roaches, right? Never see them out in the open, or in daylight!

Just like radical islam
This 1% of radical military loaters get their way because the other 99% don't say anything about it. Maybe if the men and women in uniform just refused to perform their duties until the government aforded them the same protection given protestors in Jenna LA. We have a very high standard of living and a free society. These and the rest of our rights are protected by the uniformed personnel. When the sea lanes are not protected, the 38th paralel is left unguarded, our ports and borders are open then maybe the rest of the population will get it and put an end to this. If not then be prepared to suffer the consequences. Make no mistake the thugs doing this are all democrats who will vote for obama. Maybe at his next press conference someone should ask him what as President he would do about this abuse.

SSGT
HAHA! I PRAY that I'm there when a lib spits on a troops or other bothers them. Well worth the fine for stomping the crap out of them. I'll say my piece before The Man while they're in traction! haha.

GunnyG: "Your Honor, it made me rememebr when I saw hippies throwing crap at GI's at Oakland, when I was a young kid, remembered my WW2 vet Dad with a tear in his eye (true story), and I simply snapped."

Judge: "Case dismissed!"


USMC(ret)
DEVIL DOG!

"congradulate each other on vacations with inflatable partners before they take a stand against the action going on."

That needed a spew alert. And I just swiffered the hooch! haha

roadkill58
Maybe a group of mil retirees standing post outside of recruiting centers with axe handles, discussing whether hickory or oak ones work best when giving a hippie a "wood shampoo" might keep the libturds away.

GunnyG
That is if you can find a Judge that was not liberal. That in itself is a task these days! But I'm with ya,


SSGT: Your Honor, I had a flashback of Marines taking care of their own. When I saw the nut throw a bag of cr*p at the recruiter, my mind went blank.

Judge: Did you have to knock all the teeth out?

SSGT: I don't remember, your Honor!

I love how
lefty loonies who hate the military and the concept of law enforcement (zap-a-dolt, lilly, bestiality-boy) think that catching criminals and punishing them equates to Nazi tactics.

Who are the ones breaking windows reminiscent of Krystal Nacht? Who are the ones taking shots at our service members on our own streets?

It sure isn’t the cops, the recruiters, active duty military, or other like minded groups.

Seems to me there might be a valid reason zap-a-dolt and bestiality-boy are afraid of the concept of punishment for crimes committed. Their conscience is bothering them.

GunnyG
"discussing whether hickory or oak ones work best when giving a hippie a "wood shampoo" might keep the libturds away."

And your worried about a spew alert from USMC(ret)?????

LMFAO

Wood Shampoo
GunnyG - yould you happen to be a fan of the Greaseman?
He's the first I ever heard use the term.
Of course it could be an actual law enforcement term (strictly briefing room and locker room use - as it might offend delicate constitutions).

Counterstrike
I swear this gets my blood boiling.

If one of these idiots, just one, went to launch an attack on one of these recruitment centers and was shot dead and left for the garbage truck to pick up and haul off to the dump, and no legal action was taken in the idiot's defense, it might make these wet-ends think twice before becoming a copycat.

Of course that will probably never happen.

Maybe an organization should get started with volunteers to help protect these centers. Can you imagine some idiots making threats, showing up to carry out their threats and finding their way blocked by three times their number of patriots? I bet there would be no violence, because the wet-ends would probably wet their pants and run home crying police brutality, or some such.

Idiots.

Anti war zealots are....
unpatriotic cowards. They don't believe anything is worth fighting for. They actually do, on some level, understand that it is their patriotic duty to stand for the country but they don't have the courage to do so. In order to negate their own cowardice, they attack and denigrate those with courage and strength of character. Their war consists of fighting on American soil against Americans while under the full protection of a politically correct establishment and increasingly ineffective police organizations.

This was true in the sixties and it's just as true today. The cowards have their recruiters too, they are the college professors.


USMC(ret)
I first heard it the early 80's as a Lance Coconut doing "chaser" duty. The 1stSgt used to say, in FRONT of the prisoners, that if they out of hand, give em a "wood shampoo!"

The only thing more deadly than a Lance Coolie with a club and orders to use it, is a PFC with a pistol (on guard-duty) and orders to use it! haha.


Demonstration tactics
Here's an idea.

Some idiots decide to hold a demonstration against a recruitment center.

100 wet-ends show up to protest the military and shout anti-military slogans and wave their signs.

900 Veterans and assorted patriots show up with their signs and banners and infiltrate the demonstration. All 900 loudly recite the pledge of allegiance and sing patriotic songs, drowning out the wet-ends until the idiots finally go home, drowning in tears of frustration because no one could hear them. Then maybe they would do us all a favor and end their pathetic lives with no danger to anyone else.

SSGT
No, your line to the judge after he/she asks you about the teeth is:

SSGT: "Well your Honor, it was like eating peanuts. Once I started I couldn't stop!"

It seems...
...to me, at least, that these anti-war protestors act on a deep-rooted envy....our soldiers ARE heroes, making untold sacrifices for all. These zealots, to use a mild word, realize they can no longer hide their cowardice. The media is no longer solely on their side. Thanks to the Internet, we hear stories about sacrifice and love of fellow man everywhere our military go. This must come as a slap in the face to those who would have others believe our military is evil.

GunnyG and SSGT
I'm glad you two are posting about this with a sense of humor.

I really needed something to lighten my mood after reading Michelle's column. God, c**p like this makes me see red.

So, thanks you two, y'all are great.

How ironic
"At a national conference of anarchists in Washington, D.C., last weekend, a "solidarity sticker" glorifying the biker bomber made the rounds."

Anarchists are trying to organize...that's funny. I wonder who set it up. Hopefully, the FBI has them all on film in an organized file.

GunnyG, SSGT, Curtal Friar
GunnyG: "WOOD SHAMPOO"??? OMG!! That had me crying!!

SSGT: Keeping warm, are you?? Laughing helps, you know!

Curtal: I'm with you. I already go to several places to report illegals to ICE, so going to a recruitment office would be a cakewalk!

Oh, good morning, btw!

GunnyG/Curtal Friar
GunnyG, I would prefer cashews. I will pratice in front of the mirror tonight! hahaha

Curtal, as we make light of the article, and the freaks out there doing this stuff, trust me when I tell ya that they better NEVER hope that I'm in the area. After all, I do have 4-wheel drive!!!

:-)

YLG
good morning deary! Its a balmy 34* here today. 40*'s tomorrow and Friday. Yep, keeping warm alright! haha

Your post was very nicely and factually put.

TRUTH
"US" don't have enough "TERRORIST",therefore we are committing our young people to those "RANKS".Michelle your article is a pathetic attempt to create "CHAOS".I was always taught, that "ORDER" grows from "CHAOS",so be very careful."US" have young people,who are principled and don't want to "STEAL" from others.Since they have adopted a peace "AGENDA",as opposed to a war "AGENDA",they must bare the burden of every negative act.That, is not FAIR or AMERICAN!You are becoming less relevant with every passing event.

Mommas and Daddas Boys n Girls
The 90210 crowd of kids that inhabit much of today's college campuses really makes me sick. They have had life, liberty and happiness HANDED TO THEM.....NEVER UNDERSTANDING THAT ITS THE VERY FOLKS THEY ARE CHASTISING AND CURSING ARE THE ONES WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BE SUCH FANTASTIC NOSE WIPES.

Curtal Friar/YLG
Off Subject
I know this isnt the place to ask but was the chat room site down last night? I tried to log in but couldn't connect with the server. Since I can't get on here at work, I won't be able to if it works till I get home. Let me know

Yo, Killer
So, are you drunk or on drugs or what?

You're not drinking Sterno, are you? Stay away from that stuff, it kills your brain cells!


Curtal Friar
I came home on leave in 83 and Dad got me a job working construction so I would not lay around! haha. Guess what? Grenada happened and then hippies came by from UofC at Bezerkely burning the US flag! I can still hear the tool belts hitting the ground and the sounds of sceaming hippies.

What was really funny is that the Berkeley cops let us whip them idiots and then broke it up, telling us to go back to work! Had I not lived through it, I would not have believed it!

Beastiality Boy
When a nuke of Iranian origin is set off in an American city by an Islamic terrorist, I hope YOU are the first to be put in front of a firing squad.

Bring back the draft!!!!
Curtal Friar, I sure agree with you & I am boiling right now, but will be able to calm down when we get some law makers & judges that know right from wrong. It's pathetic & I would love to see the draft re-instated just for this reason! All these cowardly actions against our military SHOULD be considered a "hate" crime.

sheepdog
It wasn't you. It is back up now, though.

See you this afternoon!!

killer
nice monicker for a peace loving, bong smoking drug addict from the hippie era. Relevant? You are not!!!

Good morning YLG
YLG: Thanks for your actions! I'm glad there are people out there reporting illegals.

SSGT and YLG:

As for weather, yesterday was a nice day here, very little wind, high 60's, great for barbecuing, or in my case, enjoying a nice cigar and a mug full of ale out in my front yard.

Today, the weatherman promises it will be 71 degrees. Of course, being Kansas, by this weekend, it will be back down in the 20's and 30's. But I will enjoy today!

It's funny
All these crazed anti-war kooks attack recruiting stations but you never hear about military people seeking retribution. It's a good thing most military people are disciplined because if they weren't, there be alot of people in the hospital recuperating and it wouldn't be the military people. For people that hate violence they sure are violent.

sheepdog
Isn't it ironic for the peace activists to be the ones inciting violence??

And they don't see their obvious hypocrisy!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

GunnyG
The only thing more deadly than a Lance Coolie with a club and orders to use it, is a PFC with a pistol (on guard-duty) and orders to use it! haha.

Deadly to "others" - 'cuz we all know the most deadly (to ourselves) thing in the Corps is a 2ndLt with a map and a radio!

yo killer
it's called "Clarity of Thought"!

Try and get some.

Another thought for MoonbatMark
Only my wife can call me cuddly.

Calling another guy cuddly is kind of gay.

SSGT andUSMC
I was not alive during the hippie era.I do miss it however.People appear to have been more decent!This election is not about terrorist,so stop trying to make it so.I would think,that two old soldiers,would not want any other people to discover your path.America is not in any danger, from any foreign source.America's threat lies in the fact,that some of "US" have seen a shadow on the wall and believe it to be real...That my fellow Americans, is SADDDDD!!Thank you for your service.Do "US" owe you the PRESIDENCY, as well???

USMC (Ret), GunnyG, SSGT
Y'all remember how to get a one-armed lieutenant out of a tree?


Lilly, Lilly, Lilly
Or as you are known in other circles, momma lib.

Should I be flattered that you took the time to respond to my post? Nope, I didn't think so. And GunnyG has already responded to you this morning.

If you can get the FUPA out of the way you will see on other posts that I, as well as many others here, feel the same way about McCain, Hillary and all the others. That they should resign or give up their salaries.

The points you bring up about President Bush in 2004 can be said about the Clintons in 1996 too.

See you in Smellrose Place Lilly. I hear you'll be back in time for the DNC sponsored debates.
Get well soon.

killer
"America is not in any danger, from any foreign source."

That is precisely the "head in the sand" thinking that allowed 9/11 to happen.

Question: Were the 9/11 hijackers from Nebraska??

Beastiality BOY
Why wait to attack Iran? It is going to happen sooner or later. I say git 'er done. Hopefully it will be done while Oblama isover there bumpin you know what's with Ahmadinnerjacket

Barb
I disagree. Putting these crybaby limpd|cks into the military only wastes the time of those who have to deal with their BS. McNamara's 100,000, a stupid idea that offered jail or the service, resulted in huge amounts of wasted time and money kicking the scum back out.

Let those who want to serve, serve. All we're asking is that the Code Pink/hippie scum stay away. In fact, it should be legislated that no protests can be held within 500 yards of a recruiting station.

I wonder how the libs would react if WE started standing in front of abortion centers and prevented women from entering.

killer writes:
Wednesday, March, 12, 2008 9:33 AM
SSGT andUSMC
I was not alive during the hippie era.I do miss it however.People appear to have been more decent!



Now I might not be the brightest but I think your post was somewhat retarded. (my apologies to all the retarded people).

How do you miss the hippie era when you weren't aound for it.

They were decent too. Just ask all of Charles Manson's victims. Ooops, you can't. They are all dead. And you can't ask his followers, they are still on acid trips.

And where, exactly, do shadows come from? Inanimate objects?? Every time I have ever seen a shadow, there WAS something there that caused it.





GunnyG
Good morning to ya (and SSGT and Curtal and all the others)



Is NORMAN HSU still alive?

Curtal Friar
You'd think that Marc Mode, the Gay Designer from Smellrose Place would have an eye out for fashion.

He can't even be a Good Gay Guy.

hahaha a GGG

killer aka braindead moron
"I was not alive during the hippie era.I do miss it however.People appear to have been more decent!"

Really? I was alive then. I saw them throw sh*tty diapers, bags of p*ss, bags of blood, and spit, at at men returning from Vietnam. I saw them wear the US flag on the a**es of their jeans, as they grubbed off of the system the supposedly "rejected." I saw them at ballgames sit vice stand for the Anthem. They stunk. They're lazy. They're stupid.

You'd have fit in nicely.

Bman III
LOL!

Yeah, he survived Clinton like the rest of us survived Roe v Wade!

One day, he'll get sprung from jail and suddenly commit suicide, after being found stabbed 117 times, like another Clinton victim.

The sprial
I was a young teen the last go-around (Viet Nam protesters) with a Dad who was a veteran, an uncle in the Air Force (SPS) and another uncle in the Army Reserve (Armor), and had friends with older brothers that had been drafted (and a couple KIA).

As an older teen, still in school I visited VA hospitals with Scouts and Civil Air Patrol. It was the least I could do, as well as decorate graves on Memorial Day.

I served 22 years in the Air Force (B-52s flightline & Command Post) and attempted t raise my children to honor and respect those that serve (son is in the Army, Artillery school right now). My husband is also an Air Force Retiree and Federal Law Enforcement Agent.

These stories hurt, since I take the "attacks" as not just on the buildings, or the duties of those assigned, but attacks on military servicemen and servicewomen everywhere. If they weren't such cowards and dirty "scaredy cats" they would possibly attack myself, my husband, my child (at 6 ft I think he can handle it) or any number of my friends or my "kids" (junior enlisted troops I once served with not long ago).

I too wondered when the "bombings" would resume. If a "democrat" is elected -- the recruiters ought to get hazard pay and the ROTC detachments (maybe even the Jr. ROTCs too) will be closed once more.

It's NOT 1968 but it sure feels like it again.

Dying from within
I am a first time poster here, but liberalism, political corectness, and having to pander to everyone will be the death of this great nation. Our enemies know this, just look at CAIR. look at how our enemies use the press against us causing this imploding from within.
When in the hell will these cowrdly acts against military recuiters be tried for what they are, "Hate Crimes".
As a conservative I am reminded form time to time that my views, and beliefs constitute hate speech. Well these crimes againt our recruiters is nothing more than a liberal, textbook definition of a "hate crime".
These acts go way past freedom of speech, and I know that it may not be right, but if I were to catch one or a few of these cowards in the act of defacing a recruiting station, I would then have to invoke a beating that their parents were too chicken to give them.
OK rant over......

AF_retiree_2001
Great post. It may FEEL like 1968 but WE ain't the silent majority getting spoon-fed pablum from liberal bobbleheads like Kronkite. This time, we've got the internet to get our information from and groups like the Gathering of Eagles and a few million vets that aibn't gonna roll over and play dead.

What're the Feds gonna do? Throw US, the working and tax paying people into jail for beating up on smell parasites!

Nope, we're tired and p*ssed off and waiting for the spark to come out swinging.

Q. What's 10,000 dead hippies tossed into the Florida Straits?

A. A good start.

CM1Jam
Nice rant, and welcome to the fray!

;-)

Be there
Fortunately, even in our small college town, the libs know better than to mess with our recruiters. Personally, I'd be out there defending them in a minute. My middle son goes to the university so he'll hear about it and confront them on campus ;) We reaised 'em right - the oldest is undergoing Airborne training now. The middle one cannot enlist due to a heart defect, so he'll be trying to go as a civilian contractor for Army Corp of Engineers.

I'm guessing not many of them have seen a mama tiger in defense of her cubs - and I consider the recruiters my cubs as they gave me back my son (who'd acted like an idiot for several years before enlisting). Yeah, just try...someone insult my 'kids'...not a chance.

BmanIII
morning Hombre! Norman who!!!??? I have not even heard a thing about him lately! haha
Charles Manson was killers hero growing up! LOL

CM1Jam and Susancnw
You're in good company here.

A hearty welcome aboard to both of you.

Beastie Boy & Killer
It is obvious that neither of you have any real world experience. It is also obvious that you have decided to not only bury your heads in the sand, but to look at everything through coke bottles colored by your own hypocritical beliefs.

Beastie Boy, you obviously don't understand how the military works, nor how a commander who is not performing to standards serves at the will and pleasure of the commander in chief. Before you speak you should sit quietly and listen to your betters to better understand the truth.

Killer, you know nothing of the 60's except what your left wing loons masquerading as teachers have taught you. You think that spouting slogans will protect you when the boogie man comes in the night. Sorry kid, that ain't the way it works. It is people like Gunny, SSGT, AF retiree, and myself who have stood firm to keep the boogie man away from your door. Our sons and daughters are still doing so now, so you can rest there in your blissful ignorance and spout your meaningless slogans to your hearts content, while they we/they are spilling OUR hearts' blood to protect you.

Go back to your corner and keep quiet and listen to your elders who know what is really happening.

Gunny, Semper Fi!
SSGT, Hoo-Ah!
AF retiree, BZ

Bman
I am going to explain this very SLOWLY!"Was Not Around" is explained by "It Appears".Also,the shadow on the wall is a metaphor,first introduced by PLATO.I always forget, that older people don't read,well!At least SOME...

GunnyG
I just read your latest blogs.

Unbelievable. Banning perfume and cologne and other scents.

Don't they realize that modern day hippies and their offspring need such things so that the rest of us can be spared the stench of their unwashed (sometimes for weeks) bodies?

Although sometimes adding any kind of scent to those freaks just makes it worse.

Ah, what can you do?

ModMark & SSGT
If people do not like being called what they are, then why do they keep coming here time after time?

I have asked this question before:
Do libs go to a restaurant they do not like, order food they do not like, again and again and again and again???

Do they know what the definition of insanity is?

Compare Ms. Lolo's posts with that of any troll on TH and it is clear that what she speaks of is correct.

Unfortunately, there is only a VERY FEW libs that can come here and hold a cordial debate. The others always seem to denigrate into gutter talk and spew crap.

Sophie is a good example. She lasted about 24 hours before her true colors came out.





SSGT:
Agreed on Killer's hero





A terrorist by any other name...
Terrorists are evil. Muslim terrorists who kill innocents are evil. Leftist American terrorists who try to intimidate innocent military recruiters are evil.

It's unfortunate that our military personnel have their hands tied in the ways they are allowed to respond to wacky protesters from the left wing of the Democratic Party. It sure would be nice just once, to see recruiters-under-assault put their military training into practice on the girly-man protesters.

ModMark
Nope. I do not regret calling you an idiot. Stop exaggerating to justify your bad behavior.

What a cry baby you are. You seem to have no problem with ALL the other denigrating filth posted on these threads. As a matter of fact you join in and wallow in it. The post to me was a perfect example of it. Thy name is hypocrite.

Then you have the utter gall to cry about being called an idiot? I could have called you a whole lot worse!

You may fool yourself but no one else.

Kent State
Last night I watched a documentary on the protest and killing at Kent State. It was heartwarming when they interviewed people on the street and were told that the students should have obeyed the military and dispersed. One lady said the military should have opened fire on the whole crowd....they were warned she said.
(Those chicks with the behive hairdoos are BAD)
Also the former "students" interviewed about the happenings were all PHD's. Obviously spent their life sheltered in academia and never seen the real world.

ModMark
Let's be clear on one other thing. That was the only time I ever called you an idiot.

But you are rapidly going for two.

killer
"I am going to explain this very SLOWLY!"Was Not Around" is explained by "It Appears".Also,the shadow on the wall is a metaphor,first introduced by PLATO.I always forget, that older people don't read,well!At least SOME..."

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!

Chief Ping Jockey
I thank you for your service sir..If the the first word in your moniker is any indication I would guess your a retired CMSgt? If thats the case my dad also is a retired Chief as well (1954-1980). I retired from the AF Res after 26 years (6 years AD 20 Yrs res 1980-2006) ...Your post @ 10:47 explains it all.
BTW-I wonder if the libs would freak out if I put ZULU time instead of EDT...Think they could figure it out? LOL

Chief Ping Jockey
Good post and you're correct. We've kept the wolf away from the door since 1775 and those that protest us would eagerly live on bended knee, taking the scraps they get handed. These, of course, are the same people who think Social Security is a good deal.

This column
is a prime example of what happens when good men do nothing.

At least now we know why they sympathize with the terrorists! Birds of a feather flock together.

Killer
killer writes: Wednesday, March, 12, 2008 9:33 AM
SSGT andUSMC
I was not alive during the hippie era.I do miss it however.People appear to have been more decent!This election is not about terrorist,so stop trying to make it so.I would think,that two old soldiers,would not want any other people to discover your path.America is not in any danger, from any foreign source.America's threat lies in the fact,that some of "US" have seen a shadow on the wall and believe it to be real...That my fellow Americans, is SADDDDD!!Thank you for your service.Do "US" owe you the PRESIDENCY, as well???



Bman
I am going to explain this very SLOWLY!"Was Not Around" is explained by "It Appears".Also,the shadow on the wall is a metaphor,first introduced by PLATO.I always forget, that older people don't read,well!At least SOME...




I simply asked how could you miss the 60's era if you weren't around.

And your post would read "more better" if you would put some spaces in between your sentences.

Itlookslikeitallrunstogether.


You should take Chief Ping's advice.
And my age may surprise you. Hint: I was born in 1996.


Sheep Dog & GunnyG
Thanks for your words of brotherly encouragement. No, my dad was Air Force. I was a Chief Sonar Tech (bus driver, to GunnyG) :o) My son is Army, my daughter did two tours in the NMARNG before she decided to start a family. I have Marines and Coast Guard in my family, too. No one is left out. :o)
Regardless of uniform worn, we all have stood firm and worked to ensure that everyone, solid, sane citizen or loon alike, can sleep peacefully at night.

What is hilarious
is that these militant leftists actually think that they are better, brighter, and tougher than our military men and women!

I know I should weep for that kind of ignorance but I just can't help but laugh. These fools are fit to shine their shoes.

UncleB
Good point on Kent State. I did a report on it in high school and sided with the troops. My lib teacher blew a gasket!

Michelle does it again....
GREAT article and so infuriating. I think these kids (age is irrelevant, it's the maturity level) cannot comprehend what it means to serve your country. Mind-boggling selfishness (and envy, no doubt about it). What did these kids play with as children? Their Mommy's high heels?

Would love to see the draft reinstituted if for no other reason than forcing these chicken s**ts to grow up and appreciate what they have.

When I was in ROTC

At least one of my fellow students had the honesty to admit that I had as much right to be in ROTC as she did to protest the war (1969). I had argued that if that was what I wished to join, to deny me the opportunity was no more fair than to ban her demonstration. (We agreed on one thing: Our Sociology professor was a narrow minding hypocrite, who only wanted regurgitation, instead of actual thought.

Too bad , we both are relics.

Help, please
Can anyone tell me what's up with zapdoodat?

Skimming over the posts, at first glance he seems to be conservative. On closer look, I am not too sure what to make of him.

On an even closer examination, I have to wonder if he requires medication.

Can someone help me out here please?


Chief Ping Jockey???
haha...Thats pretty cool! And don't mistake me for wobbie and the Doofus!
Thankyou for your service. As the Guns has stated time and again, we will take the fight to the libsquirts until we get our country back.

CM1Jam, welcome! Curtal is correct! You are in good hands here.

Sheep Dog & GunnyG
I guess my last post is somewhere amongst all the 'trons in the wires.

Just wanted to say, thanks for the brotherly encouragement.

No, Sheep Dog, I am a retired Chief Sonar Technician, US Navy, or one of the bus drivers as GunnyG might say. :o) However, my dad was Air Force. My son is active Army. My daughter did two tours with the NMARNG before she decided to start a family. I also have Marines and Coast Guard in the family tree, so I have it all.

Yep, you're right GunnyG. Because of us and those who went before us, and those who have taken our place in the line, both those common, hardworking citizens and the loons can all sleep peacefully at night. They don't have to worry about the wolf because someone else is putting it all on the line to ensure they and their families have nothing to fear. To all of y'all who have stood, and still stand, in that line, I can only say Well Done, and continue to keep the faith!

killer
You can't miss what you never had.

I don't know who gave that goofy idealized notion of the 1960's but it wasn't all peace, love, run naked through the woods.

Ever hear of the Weathermen?

Symbanese Liberation Army?

Manson clan?

Be glad you missed all those hippies sleeping and defecating in the streets of San Francisco, but if you would like to revisit it go to Berkeley.


Chief Ping Jockey
"we all have stood firm and worked to ensure that everyone, solid, sane citizen or loon alike, can sleep peacefully at night."

Ain't that the hell of it? Somehow, the loony libs have a disconnect in their moonbat brains that prevent them from understanding it.

Old Man was a WW2 sub vet

G-Father DD guy in WW1.

A plethora of vets on both sides as well as in the wive's family.

Click on my name (shameless blog plug) for the #1 blog on TH that mercilessly attacks liberals, with no quarter given! Also, The Crawfish, while a squid, has a blog mentored by me!

Chief Ping Jockey
It was good to read your posts.

Sir, I salute you and thank you and your family for the service y'all have performed for our country.

Good to have you aboard!

BmanIII
maybethatshowtheyteachthemtoday!!!

Chief Ping Jockey
Sorry for the confusion..I just assumed that you were one...I also for that the Navy has a Chief rank also...My dad could tell you stories about coming back from Vietnam after his first tour...When they got off the plane,(Travis AFB CA.) they were told to take off their uniforms and change into civilian clothes to avoid any confrontation with with the civilian populace. He hated to do it but didn't have any choice.

Typical bully behavior....
Most bullies are all bark and no bite when it comes time to put up or shut up. By going against the military at recruitment centers they get to flex their non-existent muscle and non-existent mental prowess, knowing full well that nothing will happen to them.

If they really had any guts and actually mean to stand up for what they spout as truth, they would crash a military base and face the folks that protect them, face to face there. But no, they will continue to stand at a far enough distance to remain safe while proving nothing but that they are cowards.

It makes them FEEL powerful to taunt the ones they know are too honorable to make them feel the pain that could so obviously be inflicted were they to face them with the same level of conviction that our military faces real enemies with.

They have no idea just how much blood has been shed to preserve their right to act like fools.

SSGT
Thanks, Sarge. Or as I believe they still teach, the best defense is a good offense. :o)

The sad thing is that all these addle brained types have been brainwashed to believe that it is the soldier/Marine/airman/sailor who loves war. They don't really understand that we DON'T love war, we only understand that when the options are to submit to tyranny or to fight, we understand that fighting is the only option for a free people. We understand that someone has to be willing to leave all that we love behind so that what we love can be preserved. We understand that though we may not agree with someone's views, we, truly, are willing to lay down our lives to protect their rights to their views. NOT one of them, beastie boy, killer, etc. are prime examples of those who lavishly claim to love freedom, yet won't lift a finger to truly protect them for themselves or others. In fact, they will be first in line to spit upon, throw dirty diapers upon (no, I didn't experience it. I was 2 years too late, though I volunteered for riverine. However, because of such as Beastie Boy and Killer, we weren't allowed to wear our uniforms off base immediately following boot camp graduation) those who are willing to forsake all to protect all.

Amen GunnyG, amen!
GunnyG writes: Wednesday, March, 12, 2008 9:48 AM
...Putting these crybaby limpd|cks into the military only wastes the time of those who have to deal with their BS. McNamara's 100,000, a stupid idea that offered jail or the service, resulted in huge amounts of wasted time and money kicking the scum back out...

There were still a few hangers on from that grand Lib/Dum experiment when I enterd service in 1982. POS (or killer) pretty much sums them up.


Farmer's Wife
"They have no idea just how much blood has been shed to preserve their right to act like fools."

AMEN! For all of us, thank you, Ma'am.

Curtal (sorry for the delay)
Y'all remember how to get a one-armed lieutenant out of a tree?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wave to him. ;P

Irony
Liberals are on a rampage against the military as a protest against securing and protecting America's interests in Southwest Asia (aka the "middle" east).

At the same time these same crazed and mindless liberals demand IMMEDIATE action in Darfur---otherwise known as a country of zero strategic importance to the security and well-being of our country.

Spitzer
is dribbling on the radio right now. The LOSER

ModMark
Tried what? Justifying your bad behavior? Yes you sure did.

Do you really think the goofy posting of my name hurts? Do you really think your the first to ever do it?

Get real.

USMC (Ret) & GunnyG
Yup, we had a few "Operation Bottom Blows" because of it during my time in. I think an old ASROC Gunner's Mate summed it up best for me when I was a steamin' seaman. He said that you couldn't have someone who farted around and asked why or took their own sweet time when you told them to do something. He had seen too many men die in 'Nam because of that. He was riverine onboard PBRs. One of many I look up to as those who taught me the true meaning of leadership. He seldom raised his voice. Didn't have to. You knew where he stood and did what he said because when he said he was going to kick your butt, you knew he was serious.

sheepdog
I'm kinda in the same boat as you are. Did you find out how to go to the chat room?

SSGT
Good morning!

Do you really think he will lose?


Nah, he will cut a deal, let the ill winds blow over, then the Dems will hail him as a hero and put him back in office!

SSDD!

To Beastie Boy
"At this point, I'm not convinced that theirs is not an act of patriotism."

Yes, cowardly acts of common vandalism or uncivil violence are certainly acts of the highest patriotism, aren't they?

We have a DEMOCRATIC system. There is absolutely no excuse for resorting to unlawful acts, and doing so can only result in harm to our nation. Were this an oppressive dictatorship, violence might be necessary. Here people just need to stop their childish tantrums and VOTE.

If you will excuse violence and petty criminality in the name of a cause you support, will you then condemn it when it is done in the name of someone else's cause, which you do NOT support?

Finally, let us note that some of these folks, particularly the college students, are the same who scream 'Violence never solved anything!' If that is so, let them resort to lawful methods. If it is not, let them cease their hypocrisy.

SSGT,
BmanIII
maybethatshowtheyteachthemtoday!!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Base on what I have suffered through trying to read his tripe, you should have put:

maybeTHATSSSSSSSSS!howtheyTEEEEEECHthemtoDAY!!!!

SSgt
I have the site bookmarked in my favorites in computer at home. I cannot get onto it at work as the site is blocked. I tried to get on last night but couldn't connect with the server. I sent an e-mail to jack (although I think I sent it to the wrong address) asking if the site was down. YLG posted earlier that the site was up and running so I'll find out when I get home.

Some great new
additions to the TH posters today!

Welcome aboard!


Good Luck with the moonbats and make sure you have your vaccinations.

SSGT
maybeyouarerightbutmethinkstheyarejusttoostupidtolearnanytingbecauseafteralltheirmommasandpappasareprobablyjustthesameastheyareandisntthatashametogrowupwithawastedmindandhavesuchalopsidedperspectiveontheworldaroundyou.


I just can't do it. How do THEY do it?? I feel dumber now that I have tried to emulate THEM.




Chief Ping:
I too, sir, thank you for your service and those of your family. God bless them and you.


Good morning to the esteemed Lolo

BmanIII
1996!
Good lord! I have a son AND UNDERWEAR older than you!

Curtal Friar